1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am really excited 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: today because I have a good friend on the program today. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Her name is Sabina Durden Coulter. She's an angel mom. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't necessarily know what 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: an angel parent is, someone who's lost a relative at 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: the hands of an illegal immigrant. And Sabina was one 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: of the first people that I met when I got 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: involved in the political world. I was told, you know, 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: we need you to go interview these people their angel parents, 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: and that was the first time I learned what an 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: angel parent was. And to be honest, I didn't know 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: how to have this conversation. And when you hear Sabina today, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: you'll just realize that it's easy to have a conversation 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: with her because she is like everybody's mom. So, Sabina, 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the program. 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me, Tutor, and I'm so 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: honored to be here with you. And yes, we've known 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: each other a long time and you did so great 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: back and matter of fact, I appreciate people that are 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: willing to just talk. There is no right and wrong way. 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: So but it is a tough subject though, and it's 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: sad because we continue to see this happen. So your story, 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: I want you to talk a little bit about Dominic. 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Your son died on July twelve, twenty twelve, and that 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: was because he was in an accident. Now what you 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: have to know about for people listening. You always have 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: dom hugs on you Somewhere written you are like, I 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: got to give you a domb hug, and it really is. 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I think you are so powerful in the way you 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: talk about your son. He must have been such an 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: amazing human being. 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, tutor. And yes, the domb hugs are the 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: kind of hugs. This my six foot four, big guy, 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: my German chocolate is he called himself because he was 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: born in Germany. Obviously he got some chocolate in him. 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: He called himself that and he if I ever have 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: when I'm asked my biggest accomplishment, that is having that 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: incredible son that showed for thirty years what an amazing 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: man he was. And as a little kid, he started 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: hanging out with kids that were smelly and had running 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: noses in kindergarten, so he always tended to the ones 42 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: that weren't the popular ones, and he carried that throughout 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: his life, just took care and everybody that met him 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: said he never met a stranger. Everybody fell in love 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: with him because he was real and unique and kind. 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: And so I was so proud and I still am 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: proud to be Dom's mom. Dominique was thirteen years old. Oh, 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: I am incredibly proud. But he was thirty years old 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: after he volunteered for the city of Marino Valley in California, 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: where he was Volunteer of the Year because he gave 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: thousands of his free time to volunteer for the fire 52 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: department and so forth. So you would always see Dominic 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: somewhere in town. Everybody knew him. Then he started finding 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: a love for aviation and also law enforcement, but he 55 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: had a hip injury, so he couldn't become a police officer. 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: He said, well, the next best thing is being a 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: dispatcher nine one one dispatcher. So he did that, and 58 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: I still hear that. He was truly one of the best. 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: He saved many police officers' lives and he could just 60 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: do his job watching six monitors and once the calls 61 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: were down, he could clown with his friends, who still 62 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 2: celebrate his birthday every year. We're going on twelve years now, 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: so he just excelled. He wanted to become a helicopter 64 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: pilot for the police department, but sadly, and the legal 65 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: from Guatemala who didn't obey by our rules, not coming 66 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: here illegally, not driving drunk, not driving without a license 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: or registration or insurance, had an old car that he 68 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: drove up the road while Dominique on his motorcycle was 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: going to work, coming towards him, and the guy turned 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: the truck in front of him, trying to get into 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: a street to catch one of those vans that pick 72 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: up illegal alien labor because it's cheaper, and he had 73 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: Dominick so hard that it killed him instantly and threw 74 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: him into this wall on the sidewalk. There were two 75 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: Marines in their cars behind Dominick watching this horror. One 76 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: of them stayed with dominic and he told me later 77 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: he said he was already dead, he didn't suffer. And 78 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: the other one ran after the illegal who tried to 79 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: get away, and he wasn't even charged with hid and 80 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: run police. The calls came into the dispatch center that 81 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Dominick worked out. They were waiting for him because he 82 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: was laid. He was never laid. He was sloppy sometimes 83 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: with the boots halfway on, but he wasn't late. And 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: then finally the license plate number came in and it 85 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: showed up as they had a secret code for police 86 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: officers on their private vehicles and all that, and now 87 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: they started talking and then somebody recognized the number and 88 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: the mayhem. In that dispatch center, they were screaming, crying. 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: They fell apart. They had to bring in dispatches from 90 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: other centers because they couldn't do it. The first responder 91 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: knew Dominick and went into shock. The fire department showed up, 92 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: they knew him because it was one of their best volunteers. 93 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: They couldn't do anything, so they had to call highway 94 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: patrol to secure the scene and they transported Dominique on 95 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: the fire truck with the American flag. That's why this 96 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: flag means so much to me. To the coroner's office. 97 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta. I had just arrived with my 98 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: now husband, Anthony, who spinned my rock, and I tried 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: to call Dominique and he would go to voicemail and 100 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: I had a weird feeling something was off, you know 101 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: how we moms are linked to our kids. We feel it. 102 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember you telling me there was like a sense 103 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: that you felt it, And I just I think about 104 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: that often, the connection of a mother to her only child. 105 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never goes away. And so I tried to 106 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: call him on his job and they acted real strange 107 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: and they couldn't talk. And then I thought, Okay, he's 108 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: in the hospital, full body cast, and I'm gonna tickle him. 109 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it, you know, I'm making it my 110 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: fun to tease him. But then the lieutenant came on 111 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: and those words you hear in the movies, I'm so 112 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: sorry to tell you that Dominic was killed. They are 113 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: as fresh to date as you can see right now 114 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 2: as they were twelve years ago, because you go into 115 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: the shock disbelief. I just kissed him. I just hugged 116 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: him at the airport, playing around, laughing, joking. Then we 117 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: turned around flew back to California, and I was still 118 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: thinking because he was a big prankster. Him and I 119 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: pranked each other constantly, and I thought, if he's pranking 120 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: me with this, I'm gonna beat him so hard. But 121 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: we got to Ontario and his best friends were there 122 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: picking us up, and I knew it was true, so 123 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: I broke down. I needed to go by the spot. 124 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: At that time, Tudor, I still thought it was an accident, 125 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: because they do happen sadly. And a little while later, 126 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: an officer whispered in my ear because every day we met, 127 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: hundreds of people met at the spot, put a big 128 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: old memorial on the wall and flowers, and he whispered 129 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: to me. He said, you need to talk to the DA. 130 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: He needs to tell you the truth I'm you're talking about. 131 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: He said, Oh, the driver of the car is an 132 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: illegal alien. 133 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Why do they hide it? Why is that that how 134 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: it goes. I mean, even this latest story that we've 135 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: heard in Grand Rapids, it would not have come out. 136 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: They were not going to tell the American people the 137 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: sky was illegal. 138 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's getting worse. When you see Michigan man or 139 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: Chicago man, you can pretty much bet on it that 140 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: it's an illegal They try to we know it's an invasion, 141 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: we know it's a catastrophe that's happening at the border, 142 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: what it does to America and it's citizens, and they 143 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: try to whitewash it, like when they get arrested, they 144 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: label them as white, not hispanic, not black, no white, 145 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: just to slant the statistics. But so once I found 146 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: out it was an illegal alien, things changed and I 147 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: started to pick up more coming out of the shock. 148 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: You still underwe that you don't know what day it is, 149 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: what year it is. And I talked to the DA 150 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: and he was well, they knew him. Short story and 151 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: long story short, they knew him. They had him in 152 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: custody many times before. The guy had two felonies armed robbery, 153 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: grand theft. 154 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: He was the other thing. It's always someone that's completed 155 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: other crimes. 156 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: They had many chances to remove that person, and then 157 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: my son's death and many other deaths wouldn't happen. So 158 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: he had all these priors, and he had been caught 159 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: twice driving drunk, no license, and he drove again and 160 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: he was right under the legal limit of being drunk. 161 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: And by the time we got to court, the DA, 162 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: who claimed to give dominic justice and make sure that 163 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: I will feel a little bit of relief, he made 164 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: sure to talk me out of going to trial. I 165 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: had no clue what was going on. He said, we 166 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: got a hearing. That way we can bring in the 167 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: prior chargers. Blah blah blah, And eventually the judge, who 168 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: also knew the killer, made sure they gave him a 169 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 2: misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence, and he got sentenced 170 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: to nine months and five year probation. 171 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: A guy he doesn't get deported, you don't get deported. 172 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Well that took us, Anthony and I. It took us 173 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: a year and a half of fighting, of going to 174 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: the immigration center where he was held, and we met 175 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: a guy there, a correction officer named Cyrus, and he 176 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: made sure because he was so angry, he made sure 177 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: that he was watching this guy, and he let us 178 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: know when there was a hearing so I could show up. 179 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't be in the courtroom with the killer of 180 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: my son because he had rights. What how strange is that? 181 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Yes, you guess, I don't understan say that. 182 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: Why, well, because that's just how it goes. Matter of fact, 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: while the hearing was going on, Tutor, we were Anthony 184 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: took me out of town just to get away, and 185 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he got a call and he 186 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: started acting real weird. We know when our husband's you 187 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: know something's up. And I asked him, I said, what 188 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: was that about. He said, oh, nothink, just don't go 189 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: on Facebook. Right immediately, I wanted to go on Facebook, 190 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: and Anthony took my phone and he's never been like that. 191 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: He found out that that illegal alien killer was released 192 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: on ten thousand dollars cash phoned. So you sit there 193 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: and you try to understand how an illegal alien with 194 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: two felonies, two duys, all of that can be bonded 195 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: out and where does a daily day laborer get ten 196 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: thousand dollars cash from the saddest part was wet he 197 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: would flee the country. We would never see justice. No, 198 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: he's as arrogant as every other alien that comes here. 199 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: And I'm painting with a broadbrush because it's like a 200 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: bolus skittles and there are three poisonous ones in there. 201 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: We don't know which ones they are. That's the same 202 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: with illegals. You got two good ones and five bad 203 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: ones we don't know. 204 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: But Liza is coming from a woman who immigrated to 205 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: this country. 206 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: Yes, I immigrated nineteen eighty nine. Took me six years 207 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: to become a citizen, cost a lot of money, a 208 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: lot of time, paperwork. But I'm proud that that is 209 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: my flag. So this guy came back and the judge 210 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: asked him, do you have anything to say to the victim. 211 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: This dude sat there with hands in prayer and said, 212 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: God gives of course translator that my tax is paid for. 213 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: God gives life, God takes life. I was only on 214 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: my way to work, and that's when they had peel 215 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: me off the floor. And I hear constantly, Well, Dominie 216 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: could have been killed by an American. Sure he could have, 217 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: but he wasn't. And if that illegal or all other 218 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: illegals are not here to start with, we wouldn't have 219 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of victims. 220 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 221 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. So this is something I want 222 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: to ask you about because we have had this conversation 223 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: of late in Michigan. Because we have the guy who 224 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: was trying to find kids online. We have the man 225 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: who shot the woman in the car, left her body 226 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: on the highway, we have the gangs that are breaking 227 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: into people's houses. And we're being told that if you 228 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: talk about it, you are unfairly politicizing, that this is 229 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: not a political issue. But we know one party wants 230 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: to do something. One party doesn't want to do Actually, 231 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,359 Speaker 1: they want to do something worse. They want to cantinue 232 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: to let these people come in. 233 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Right. 234 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: You have talked about your experience with the Trump administration. 235 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Can you go into a little bit about when people 236 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: say he is not really serious about this? What was 237 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: your experience with Donald Trump? 238 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough to meet Donald Trump. His campaign 239 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: called my house, and I thought it was one of 240 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Dominic's friends pranking me, and I hung up, but they 241 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: got they had called me back and they say that 242 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. It was twenty fifteen June July twenty fifteen. 243 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: It was two days before the Angel Versary where I 244 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: always celebrated Dominic's life with all his friends at the 245 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: house that he's in La and he would like to 246 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: meet me, so Anthony and I drove. We sat in 247 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: a conference room with other angel parents, and all of 248 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: a sudden the door opened. And I'm telling you, I'm 249 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: still seeing it this way. And the door opened and 250 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: all I could see was light, small and this big 251 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: guy just gliding in the room. He wasn't walking, he 252 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: was gliding. It's such a weird image I have from that. 253 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: It was so impressive, and he sat with us and 254 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: wanted to hear our stories. There were no security guards around, nothing, 255 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: It was just him and us, and he listened to 256 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: our stories. He had tears running down his face. Later 257 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: down the road, I got a call again that he 258 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: wants me to share Dominique at the RNC in Cleveland. 259 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: So the night of the opening, I got to share 260 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: Dominique with forty five million people. And I used to 261 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: be deathly afraid of public speaking. I couldn't even do this. 262 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: I was so afraid, but I became his voice and 263 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I got to share with him that he 264 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: actually saved my life. Back then, after Dominic died, you know, 265 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: there's the funeral and there are people around, and then 266 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: he gets quiet, and now I'm talking of about illegal aliens, 267 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: illegal immigration. The news who used to come around because 268 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: Stomach was such a big guy in our area in 269 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: Riverside County, everybody knew him. But once I started telling 270 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: the dru they faded away. People faded away. Family members 271 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: didn't like me talking politics, but politics happened with this case. 272 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: There was no way to make it look pretty with 273 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: their bow and sprinkles. And I wasn't into politics. But 274 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm walking through my living room and the TV was 275 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: on and I see Donald Trump come down the escalator 276 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, is he doing another Apprentice? Because 277 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: I loved when he says you're fired, You're fired. I 278 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: just loved it. And so he walks up on the 279 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: stage and there are flat American flags and I'm still listening, 280 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: and he says something, I'm running for president of the 281 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: United States something something, and then he mentioned illegal immigration, 282 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: and it hit me so hot because I had planned 283 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: my suicide. I had it all planned out. I was 284 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: about to go through with it the next week. My 285 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: even my my husband then boyfriend didn't know. I had 286 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: no clue. And when he said I legal immigration, I 287 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: dropped to my knees. I looked up and looked for 288 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: God's face and saying that I know this is on purpose. 289 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm not done here. I can't end it. I got 290 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: to stay around. Well. I had no clue that I 291 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: would speak at the RNC. I had no clue I 292 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: would be on the campaign trail on the stage with him, 293 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: and even recently a couple months ago, I'm at Marilago 294 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: a lot. I have a lot of friends now in 295 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: Palm Beach. He walks by and he sees me, and 296 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: he comes over, gives me a hawk and says, there's 297 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: Dom's mom. I know. Dominic is looking so proudly down 298 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: on you. And you stand there in front of this 299 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: bigger than live man that saved your life, brought forward 300 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: all the issues with the legal immigration that nobody talked about. 301 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: I heard Hillary talk which he will do for illegals 302 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: and refugees, and I switched to Republican when I heard 303 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: her say that. And you stand in front of this 304 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: man who has the biggest heart, who wears he can 305 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: be really tough. He says what he thinks, and I 306 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: appreciate that about him. But he has the biggest heart. 307 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: He's a father. He knows how much his children mean 308 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: to him, and a parent cannot imagine what it is 309 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: to lose one of your children, because that's just something 310 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: your heart gets protected. It's ugly, it's so ugly, and 311 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't wish that on my worst enemy. But Donald 312 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Trump has done and his team. Kaylee mcinnanny wrote in 313 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: her book American Revolution about Dominique. She put his story 314 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: in her book so that man made sure that there 315 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 2: were a lot less angel moms and dads. 316 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: I think that people who are listening need to understand. 317 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Here we are twelve years later and this is still 318 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: a fresh pain, and yes, I still see the tears 319 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: of a mom who lost her son. And that's when 320 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: people try to minimize this. You are the people that 321 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: were fighting for and the next person, because it could 322 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: be me, it could be anybody that is listening to 323 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: this podcast. You just don't know. We already just had 324 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: this happen to Lake and Riley, We've just had this 325 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: happen to Ruby Garcia. It's like how I hear the 326 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: Democrats say, well, when does it have to be this? 327 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: When are we going to see another one of these? 328 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Well wait, wait a minute, when are we going to 329 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: see another innocent life lost? Because how many of the policies? Yes, 330 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: and how many more? 331 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: And Tuda, it's you know, when they call me a racist, 332 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: clearly that's my German chocolate. So I might have yawn 333 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: or grin or smile because it's not worth my time. 334 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: I get called klu klux Klan, I said, yep, I 335 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: use white sheets on my bed. Sometimes I get called 336 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: Nazi because I'm from Germany. People want to minimize this, 337 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: and sadly, it's not just the many deaths. It's when 338 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: people need to check their children's Social Security numbers. They 339 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: are being stolen and used by illegals. They call insurance. 340 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: You better make sure you are insured for somebody that's 341 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: not insured. There is so much fraud and that it's 342 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: not just death, and it costs America. And yes, last 343 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: year four hundred and fifty billion dollars plus a year. 344 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what we could do with that? 345 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: But well, and you've got Democrats who want to pay more. 346 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean in Michigan now she's giving families. She's giving 347 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: Michigan families five hundred dollars a month if you take 348 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: someone into your home. I mean, this is here. We 349 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: have this woman who was just killed by someone who 350 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: became her boyfriend. I mean that's the other thing. Our 351 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: daughters are dating these people, not knowing that they're gang members, 352 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: not knowing that they're murderers. This is and this to 353 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: me when people say, oh, you're allowing this to become political, 354 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be. Isn't the first rule of government 355 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: to protect the people. Shouldn't that be what the government 356 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: is there for. If we're going to say that the 357 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: government has any purpose, then shouldn't it be law and order? 358 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I've learned through the time why the left, 359 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: why the Democrats just keep bringing in illegal aliens by 360 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: the buffalo, They flew in three hundred and twenty thousand 361 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: over the border so the border apprehensions are lower, so 362 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: they can say, oh, look at us, we don't No, 363 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: they flying them in. They're paying for them. Get everything 364 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: that Americans in need don't get. And matter of fact, 365 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: I had to write it down, it's not about Keith 366 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: labor only because we have a Tyson plant here. Well, 367 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: there's a Tyson plant that's clothing to open up somewheales 368 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: twelve hundred or more people gonna lose, Americans gonna lose 369 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: their jobs while they're gonna hire illegal aliens, of course, 370 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: cheap labor. Who they gonna tell, who they're gonna complain to. 371 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: It's you're right, I mean, think about we just heard 372 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: about that the bridge that collapsed in Maryland. Yeah, and 373 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: the six men who were filling the potholes. Supposedly people 374 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: have come out and said they're illegal and they and 375 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: I think it was who was it that had the 376 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: terrible tweet about it? How it was Sarah? You know 377 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: who was Garaldo Rivera was like, Oh, aren't you glad 378 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: that people will do these dirty jobs, which made me 379 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: so mad because I'm like, Americans want to do construction 380 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: jobs because they pay a lot of money. But when 381 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: you my question is this is clearly a government contract. 382 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: So why were they paying illegals? And how were they 383 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: paying them? Were they paying them under the table? Were 384 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: they paying them less than prevailing wage? Why aren't Democrats 385 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: up in arms about that? This is all Bologney. 386 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Herodo Rivera is a special kind of stupid. 387 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: I mean he would show up in the dictionary under 388 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: intensely stupid. And he blocked me on Twitter because I'll 389 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: always let him have it. He's such a blowhard. But 390 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: illegals also vote, and people say no they can't. I said, 391 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: no they do. I'm not sell cocaine, but it's still 392 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: being sold, So yes they do. I know that for 393 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: a fact, because I know people in many different higher 394 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: and lower places. 395 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to have you come out here to 396 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: Michigan and talk about this, because this is what they 397 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: did in Michigan. In Northern Michigan, they created a nonprofit 398 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: to called We the People. You know what it was 399 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: it's all nothing but illegal aliens. They worked in. Yes, 400 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: we the illegals exactly. They flipped a house seat, a 401 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: state house seat in Michigan because their candidate, who they 402 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: paid to be a candidate, was promising driver's licenses for illegals. 403 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: What do you think that means? If you've got a 404 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: driver's license, you can get a vote. 405 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: Of course, that was my third point for having millions 406 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: of illegals coming in. It's like ten millions plus under Biden, 407 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: is they get counted in the census, which means great, 408 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: you can gain a congressional seat. 409 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: So, yes, this is exactly what Elon Musk was trying 410 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: to tell people. 411 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it shrugged their shoulders. But you know what, 412 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: I still have people close to me that still make 413 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: excuses for illegals. And I get it. I understand we 414 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: all want a good life for our children and for 415 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: our families, but it can be on the expense or 416 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: on the back of somebody else. And I was asked 417 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: to do a film with a Hollywood producer and it's 418 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: called Americans America has Forgotten. And they did different stories 419 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: and one of them was so people don't say, oh, 420 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: she's so hateful she's just so cold. One of them 421 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: was an illegal alien woman. She was told how beautiful 422 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: America is that she can shop at Beverly Hills all 423 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: day long, she can go to Disneyland every day. She 424 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: paid five thousand dollars. Well, she didn't have five thousand dollars. 425 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: So now she owes the cartels that brought her over. 426 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: She owes for the rest of her life. And guess 427 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: how she's gotta paid off prostitution drug runs. She was 428 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: brought over, and while she was brought over, she was 429 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: telling her story. She was raped by multiple people. She 430 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: is now has PTSD. She's afraid to leave that little 431 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: dark room she had because people are being like to 432 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: to come here. 433 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Right, she doesn't just owe the cartels. She's owned by 434 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: the cartels. 435 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: For life, exactly for life. She can never pay that off. 436 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Children we have, is it? Thirty eight thousand children are missing? 437 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: Unaccompanied minors? Your listeners, thirty eight thousand kids? Nobody knows? 438 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: You asked Biden and them, They just shrugged their shoulder. 439 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: They were handed over to so called sponsors pedophiles. Right, 440 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: trafficking not filmed. Look it up and be prepared for 441 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: a nightmare. 442 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: So we have all this. 443 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: If Russell came over to the Ukraine, it was an invasion. 444 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 2: We have millions coming in. It's like we got it, 445 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: we got it. 446 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 447 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. No, this is not a humanitarian 448 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: aid to bring these people and allow them to be 449 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: brought in by the cartels and then owned by them. 450 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I think your stories are so important, and 451 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: that's why I love that you have become Dom's voice, 452 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: because who was going to speak out for the children. 453 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: It's not just your son. It's the thing that people 454 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: don't understand. You're not just fighting for America's children. You're 455 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: fighting for all of the children who are being brought 456 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: across this border illegally and against their will. Y. Yes, yes, 457 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: the women who. 458 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: Get told stories are forced over the women who get 459 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: forced to or do sell their children. I remember a 460 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: story of a six month old that came with her 461 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: parents while the cartel stopped them and said you gotta 462 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: pay more, They took the baby. The baby was raped 463 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: to death, and then the father drowser. The mother made 464 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: it across and that story wasn't on the front page. 465 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: So we care about people anywhere. That's why I'm America 466 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: is such a generous country you can immigrate leader. Yes, 467 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: it's going to take time, and I think we could 468 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: spend more time on making it easier, better. 469 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: Degree, because if you're looking for the right people, and 470 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: that's something that I mean, we even found this. We 471 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: have very few people that understood foundries. There's very few 472 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: people that understand what it takes to make steel castings. 473 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: And my dad had worked with men in the Czech 474 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: Republic and he had all of these guys that this 475 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: was their their expertise, but through our immigration system, they 476 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a degree, so they weren't considered experts. But 477 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't it was a skilled trade expertise. And so 478 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think there is a way 479 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: to change the system to say the people who want 480 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: to come here and that want to do these jobs 481 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: and understand these jobs, we should be able to get 482 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: them here, but we can't. And instead I have Democrats saying, 483 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: you just don't want these people to come and get jobs. No, no, no, 484 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: I've I've been in that situation where we've wanted that 485 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: and can't get it because of your system. And they 486 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: say there's no good bill. They're not introducing a bill. 487 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: No, they have, matter of fact there it's a good 488 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: bill out there, but they won't they won't even pay 489 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: attention to it because it doesn't include Ukraine or anybody 490 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: else who gets money besides this. 491 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: And they want a bill that would allow two million 492 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: people to cross right. That's unvalidy that works And no, I. 493 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: Tell people, I say, if you don't get this whole 494 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: illegal alien thing, I get it unless you're touched by 495 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: it or you experience the tragedy. But imagine you're in 496 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: your house and every day ten people that you have 497 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: no clue who they are, walk into your house, sit down, 498 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: eat your food, drink whatever you have, sleep in your 499 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: daughter's bedroom because they sit. They're a nice guy. They 500 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: you know, every day every day. How long would it 501 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: take for those people who claim it's not that bad 502 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: to call the cops to have these illegals and entered 503 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: their home removed. That's happening here. And the more we 504 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: give these illegals free this, free that, free health care, 505 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: free living conditions, everything is free, of course they come. 506 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: It's like when you feed rats every day, the more 507 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: you feed, the more they come. 508 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: That happens right, and you see you see these people 509 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: now breaking into people's homes, taking over the homes. But 510 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: I think, I think the most important thing that we 511 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: need to talk about, and I appreciate the fact that 512 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: you're willing to talk about it, is that when we 513 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: lose a life in this country, it is not a 514 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: life lost, it is multiple lives that end up changing 515 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: for good. And we almost lost two lives in this 516 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: situation of losing dom. But how many other parents are 517 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: in that situation? How many families are just broken? But 518 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Ruby Garcias I think it was her sister said something 519 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: about you have no idea how many people she impacts 520 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: and a day basis like the fact that she's gone 521 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: is going to be so hurtful. I mean same with 522 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Lake and Riley's family. You heard about all the people 523 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: that came to that memorial. It's the people left behind 524 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: that are saying, why can't we just feel safe in 525 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: our own country? 526 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: And sadly, Tudor, I talked to many families and I 527 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: almost became like a counselor without the degree that reached 528 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: out to me that don't want to be on the news, 529 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: that don't want to talk about it publicly, so I 530 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: listened to them because I know their pain. I know 531 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: from the moment they get that call. Like when Lake 532 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: and Riley was killed, I knew it wasn't illegal alien 533 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: before the news talked about it. My radar went up 534 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: and my husband had to pull me away because he 535 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: could tell I was reliving that moment of getting that call, 536 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: trying to figure out that it's a lie, it's not true. 537 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: It's the night. So there are so many There are 538 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: thousands like me that their families have been destroyed, their lives. 539 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: Dominicue was my only child. He couldn't walk me down 540 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: the aisle when I married Anthony. I will never have 541 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: that grand baby that I promised to spoil rotten. With 542 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: the eclipse, we were sitting outside. It was just that 543 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: beautiful God made moment that nobody could control but God. 544 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: With the eclipse and it got dark and I'm sitting 545 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: outside crying because I know my son would have called 546 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: me from his plane saying, mom, look I'm up here 547 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: in the sky watching it. So we get robbed of 548 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: all of that. And I know many other people lose 549 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: their loved ones and it's the same pain. But the 550 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: ones who lose children or loved ones because of an 551 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: illegal alien. Have that added pain because it was one 552 00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: hundred percent preventable, real simple, absolutely zero death of Americans 553 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: by zero illegals in this country, real simple, Not two 554 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: hundred here or five thousand, no zero. And it could 555 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: be doable. But you know when one party doesn't want 556 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: to end it because they could, all the excuses are lame. 557 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: They flat We know they could fix it because Donald 558 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: Trump had it under control, and the day Biden got 559 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: in that White House, he changed all these rules and 560 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: laws and he just reversed it. And look where we're 561 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: at now. Everywhere you go, every state, every city, but Tudor. 562 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: I have something I work with a Fair Federation for 563 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Immigration Reform, and I asked him for numbers for Michigan. 564 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: You ready to get your mind blown? 565 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I think legal. 566 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: That's twenty twenty three illegal aliens in Michigan, one hundred 567 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: eighty five thousand, So you can add a couple more 568 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: thousand easily. They're roughly sixty three thousand US born children 569 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: live there too, so they are the anchor babies. Where 570 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: those children are. If they're born in the United States 571 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: by two illegal alien parents, it's now citizen now they 572 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: can bring their family over and they get everything that 573 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: we paid your parents, My parents were in Germany. Your 574 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: parents paid into for illegal alien households at eighty three thousand, 575 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: five hundred and ninety seven students to local schools. Now, 576 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: people need to understand that a twelve year old coming 577 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: from Guatemala, like the guy that killed Dominique, they're not 578 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: the same twelve year old that we have here. So 579 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: your daughter sit next to a twelve year old, he 580 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: looks at her different than the average twelve ye old. 581 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: What are taxpayers supporting? Education? Nine hundred and fifty four 582 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: four million, police, legal and correction eighty four million, plus healthcare, 583 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 2: public assistance, general government services and expenses. So illegal immigration 584 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: costs Michigan taxpayers one point twelve billion. 585 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: With a b oh, my goodness, so wow. 586 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: When here in Arkansas, I see elderly couples go to Walmart, 587 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: they can barely afford their bread, meat, and medication anymore. 588 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: And then I know what illegals get. It takes everything 589 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 2: in me when I see them with their baskets full, 590 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: and I don't want nobody to suffer. I don't want 591 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: people to go hungry. Kids, you know, not having a bed. No, 592 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: but I take care of my family first. I took 593 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: care of my son for thirty years. 594 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: It was a good kid. 595 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: I was a part of that. 596 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: And wait, let me ask you. 597 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. 598 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: When if somebody is looking for a family when this happens, 599 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: if a family is looking for someone to talk to you, 600 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: how do they find you? How do they find the 601 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: groups that are helping them. 602 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: I put up this. I started a website. I didn't 603 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: want an organization. I didn't want to deal with this. 604 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: I didn't want to run for office and be beholden 605 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: to anybody telling me whether I can call them a 606 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: legal alien or not. So they can reach me on 607 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: domhawks dot com. That's a website. I share everything I do, 608 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: my moments with Trump and so forth, and the visits 609 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: to the border. They can also reach me on Facebook. 610 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: So being a dirt and culture, I believe it is 611 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: uh and on X I'm finally back on because before 612 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: Elon Musk came back and got it, I was banned 613 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: for two years. 614 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you're kidding me. 615 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they didn't like that. I'm on their 616 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 2: daily play. Last thing. What I find out from deep within, 617 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: from the front lines. So I'm back on eggs. So 618 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 2: you find me there and contact me, ask me anything. 619 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with me. I'm good, I can, 620 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: I can talk with people, I want to learn. 621 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: Amazing. 622 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I've learned that I can. I can 623 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: do better than being bitter. And that was never in 624 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: Dominic's DNA. No matter what happened to us through the years, 625 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: him and I, we always took joy in laughter, in pranks, 626 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: and really enjoying the little things. Right now, our motorcycles together. 627 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 2: And so I have thirty years of unbelievable memories and 628 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: not one bad one, except. 629 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: We have made so many more unbelievable memories for us. 630 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: So I am. 631 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: I am so blessed to know you, and I am 632 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: so blessed to have had you on today. Thank you. 633 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm so thankful for you. Thank you, Tutor, Thank you. 634 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: And like she said, you can find her on x 635 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: you can find her on Facebook. Go to domhogs. It's 636 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: d O M h U G S dot com. Is 637 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: it dot com? Right? 638 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 2: Yes? 639 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, check it out. Thank you so much, and 640 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: thank you all for joining us today on the Tutor 641 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go to Tutor 642 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Dixon podcast dot com and subscribe there, or head over 643 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 644 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: your podcasts and join us next time on the Tutor 645 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. Have a blessed day.