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Speaker 1: the second date update today. His name is Seth. What's up, Seth? Hey,

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Speaker 1: which it's not a reference to his romantic history. Sets

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Speaker 1: So Seth met a woman named Michaelo while selling his

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Speaker 1: I'm Michaela. My name's Jeffrey from the radio show Brook

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Speaker 1: So being it's being very just like nonchalant about it,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Second, are those the words he used? Yes, verbatim.

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Speaker 1: Here's a mail order bride. So she's someone who married

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, can I fast something? Can I clear something up? Well, hey, MICHAELA,

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Speaker 1: are you serious, Michaela. They're supposed to wait, MICHAELA. I

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Speaker 1: Like you got paid to marry her? She paid you?

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Speaker 1: Where did this? What happened? It's an arrangement. She wanted

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Speaker 1: in the areas, like a rescue dog. Okay, you don't

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Speaker 1: this is highly illegal. I didn't know you guys were

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Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, I love your crabs. You're a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, look, is there anything that I could do?

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Speaker 1: her a text ahead of time. That's convenient. Thank you. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should have focused on rehoming your moller bride.

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Speaker 1: We'll pay for it. Yeah, it's gonna be a no.

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Speaker 1: have some connection. Listen, how about next time you're having

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Speaker 1: check out your crabs. All right, okay, okay? Yeah? Is

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Speaker 1: that successful? If that's all I can get I'll gladly

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Speaker 1: see you again at my next art show. Okay good,

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Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope you love your crab bowling.

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Speaker 1: I've never been happier about a man giving me crabs before.

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Speaker 1: It's it's crabtivating if anything. Nine two point five