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Speaker 1: Lewis Hey. And you know this is my girl because

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Speaker 2: Yes, I made sure to bring a little cocktail for you,

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Speaker 2: a little touch gin, and I'm my gin tuck Gin.

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Speaker 1: I want to toast to you though, congratulations, because you

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Speaker 1: US on Stars Hey, yeah, nowhere man, and I had

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Speaker 1: advance of you being here, because of course I am,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I'm watching my girls in it. Not

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Speaker 1: only are you in it, but you're also behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer my production company with my husband

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Speaker 2: to Lewis Take to Entertainment, Entertainment.

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Speaker 3: We actually repeat it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really really proud to be not only actress

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Speaker 1: But you've done movies before, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I have Colorbook, which I've talked about, and another incredible

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Speaker 2: movie that we eped, and I've also done some stuff

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Speaker 2: it on Stars is kind of like full circle coming.

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Speaker 3: Coming right on home.

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Speaker 2: I've been on that network since I don't know, twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 2: it's been like eleven years.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I I can't believe it's been that long. I know

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Speaker 3: I know. That's what I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Let me have a little yes, a little yes close

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Speaker 1: This is good to look at you introducing me to jin.

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Speaker 2: I told you a lot of people don't know that

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Speaker 2: they can enjoy gin and it's so smooth and it's

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Speaker 3: It's delicious.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Tuck.

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Speaker 2: Go to tuckgin dot com if you want to support

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Speaker 2: it's actually really delicious.

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Speaker 1: I do want to say this. A lot of times,

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Speaker 1: You actually own a shelter slash orphanage. Yeah yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I love South Africa. I love shooting in South Africa.

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Speaker 1: You know that he also uses art as therapy, yes too,

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Speaker 3: For you and support you.

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Speaker 3: He did. He had me.

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Speaker 2: what you're doing is okay because eventually, when you're ready

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Speaker 3: Just then people are like, wait, when did that happen.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, they'll catch up.

444
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Speaker 1: But you come from generations of married people.

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Speaker 2: Yes, my parents were married before my dad passed fifty

446
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Speaker 2: two years, my grandparents sixty five years. Like everybody and

447
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Speaker 2: my family, my grandparents were like the epic couple. In

448
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Speaker 2: my mind to this day, I'm still like, you know,

449
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Speaker 2: Cora and Harold Couch, the Couches, and they were just

450
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Speaker 2: a staple in the black community, coming from North Carolina

451
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Speaker 2: and being able to buy a home up here. I

452
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Speaker 2: just think Black people, when we work together, particularly in couples,

453
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Speaker 2: we can do anything. And I think we underestimate the

454
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Speaker 2: power of unity and family, and if we get our

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Speaker 2: families back together, we can do anything.

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Speaker 1: And you know I've told you, we talked this. We

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Speaker 1: started this interview with these full circle moments for you,

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Speaker 1: and obviously three LW's also a full circle moment. I

459
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Speaker 1: went to Dumble House the other day and somebody teld

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Speaker 1: me that you and Adrianne have been there together.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what how do people know me?

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Speaker 1: All your business? Girls?

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Speaker 3: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: You see why I don't be telling people they know everything? No,

465
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Speaker 2: I know, because everybody watches what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 2: We had a double date, me and my husband and

468
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Speaker 2: her husband had a double dated Dumbo House.

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Speaker 1: Whoever, was there a time you thought that would never

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Speaker 1: even be possible?

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Speaker 2: Yes, like two years ago, I mean, or whatever amount

472
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Speaker 2: of years ago before we became friends. I would have

473
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Speaker 2: never imagined that I'd be sitting on a Sunday having

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Speaker 2: brunch with my ex group member, just kicking it with

475
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Speaker 2: our husbands, talking about our kids and planning other playdates.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. I think it's such a blessing to have forgiveness,

477
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Speaker 2: to have a chance to heal, because you know, that

478
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: was such a broken time in my life, and I

479
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Speaker 2: think she went through a lot too, and I didn't

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Speaker 2: even know some of the things that you know, Adrian

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Speaker 2: had experienced. And I just felt a sense of like

482
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Speaker 2: sisterhood and empathy because it's like, girl, we survived, we

483
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Speaker 2: made it, and that experience actually kind of brought us

484
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Speaker 2: closer together. So even like sitting having lunch, we remember

485
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Speaker 2: things that only we would know, like stuff from TRL

486
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Speaker 2: to or when I don't know, I was dating Murphy

487
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Speaker 2: Le like it was so many people that like I

488
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Speaker 2: think murph Ley had a crush on me and that

489
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Speaker 2: was like a time when they were trying to hook

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Speaker 2: me up with him. There's so many things that only.

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Speaker 3: She knows and only I know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and then she will remind me and I'll

493
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Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, we did go.

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Speaker 3: So I actually.

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Speaker 2: Enjoyed, like I enjoy sitting and having lunch just because

496
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Speaker 2: we're women now, but also like we really have grown

497
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Speaker 2: past that and she has elevated her career. I've done

498
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Speaker 2: the same. So it just made me feel good to

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Speaker 2: be able to say like, oh, thank God, like I'm

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Speaker 2: past that chapter.

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Speaker 1: Has it their member reached out to either one of you,

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, Jesus, you don't see that two years from

503
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Speaker 1: now look back.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know anything is possible.

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Speaker 2: But let's just say that's not I'm not seeing that

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Speaker 2: in the terrible cards.

507
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Speaker 1: Say once you're happy and things are going well for

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Speaker 1: you anything.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've probably had different situations with people. I'm sure,

511
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, and I think you know you do well

512
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Speaker 2: and we navigated well. But some people are just not

513
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Speaker 2: meant to be your friend though. Like some people it's okay,

514
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Speaker 2: you don't get mad at them, but it's just like

515
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Speaker 2: I don't think you're my kind of person, like and

516
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Speaker 2: it's just okay.

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Speaker 1: We can have a little bit of Ruby in us.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like I'm not gonna be all the way missionary.

519
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Speaker 2: I can't save everybody. Some people need to be left

520
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: on the other side because I'm not saving everybody.

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Speaker 3: Everybody don't deserve to be saved.

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Speaker 1: Well, guys, make sure you tune into the Nowhere Man.

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Speaker 1: You canna absolutely love it. I am hooked already. So

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you, like, just such a great watch.

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00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: Love seeing you on there, love knowing that your executive

526
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Speaker 1: producer behind the scenes. I know you have some more

527
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Speaker 1: things up your sleeve too. On the way.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm working on some things, but honestly, this

529
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Speaker 2: is the most exciting. I mean, you know, January sixteenth,

530
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Speaker 2: we premiere on Stars. We got some other things cooking,

531
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Speaker 2: take to entertainment. You'll see and hear more from us

532
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. But right now, I'm just excited

533
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Speaker 2: to get to show out for people to see.

534
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Speaker 3: Me in a new way. And you never know, I

535
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Speaker 3: think the world of Power continues, so you know, I feel.

536
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Speaker 1: Like Stars needs to deal with take two or something,

537
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Speaker 1: you know, bringing more projects.

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Speaker 3: Okay, come on, Stars, call a sister. I got some

539
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Speaker 3: projects for you. You never know.

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Speaker 2: But I'm excited to just be still in business with

541
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Speaker 2: a great network that actually generally supports me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you for coming through, and

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Speaker 1: I do want to say.

544
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Speaker 3: And thank you.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Angela and happy belated birthday. I just

546
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Speaker 2: want to say to this beautiful girl, it's always good

547
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Speaker 2: to celebrate your birthday, but also to just love on you.

548
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Speaker 2: I know that you know you've been through a lot too,

549
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Speaker 2: and you are really the premium queen and a survivor

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Speaker 2: and I just love you and I'm so happy to

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Speaker 2: just have friendship that's real in his business because it's

552
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Speaker 2: not easy to find.

553
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Speaker 1: But that was so nice because I was about to

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Speaker 1: say something to you. I was about to say, it's

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Speaker 1: a it is it is I And honestly, like I

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Speaker 1: want to say, we've spoken about you, and the way

557
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Speaker 1: we talk about you behind your back is important because

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Speaker 1: where like NATORI is so amazing, you have such great energy.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere you come. We know you're going to have a

560
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Speaker 1: good time. All we got to do is give you

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Speaker 1: one drink.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it don't take much. I was gonna say

563
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Speaker 3: I got a two drink limit. I can't even go

564
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Speaker 3: past to drinks.

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Speaker 1: But when I tell you, it's so nice that it

566
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Speaker 1: don't matter where we are, who's around, that you will

567
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Speaker 1: be amazingly fun turn and like I.

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Speaker 3: Just try to bring energy into this space, but it's

569
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Speaker 3: a time.

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Speaker 1: It's natural and organic. You're not trying, You're just doing it.

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Speaker 1: And so I just want to say that I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that for you. But you're such a professional and so

573
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Speaker 1: deserving of everything. And let's not forget because you really

574
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Speaker 1: are like a child star who's not tainted.

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Speaker 2: You know what. And I didn't even realize that you're right.

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Speaker 2: I was fifteen, I could be a little cool.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Most of the people are a little most of the

580
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Speaker 2: people that came out in ninety nine, that is still

581
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Speaker 2: they look great great, So thank god that I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll good. Well that remains to be seen.

583
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Speaker 3: Oh I was like, wait in two years, we'll see no, no, no,

584
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Speaker 3: thank you and thanks for shouting.

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Speaker 1: Out to us. Thank you and thank you for the

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Speaker 1: touch in I appreciate it. And nowhere man January sixteenth

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Speaker 1: and starts. Make sure you watch