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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be sucked in here, so I'm not
Speaker 3: point to I almost started humming, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 3: sucked in.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 5: Yes, the Cowboys won the offseason, won the draft, and
Speaker 5: we're looking ahead at twenty twenty three, and I've got
Speaker 5: the schedule in front of me, and I've.
Speaker 4: Got w w w w ww. I got s seventeen
Speaker 4: ws on this schedule. It is a victory Monday already,
Speaker 4: that you're at the start.
Speaker 6: Does it make you laugh when after the schedule comes
Speaker 6: out the next day, everybody's got to go through and
Speaker 6: pin their wins and losses.
Speaker 4: What do you mean the next day it's the first
Speaker 4: thing I do.
Speaker 6: It's like you knew who they're playing, why didn't you
Speaker 6: just do it next three months ago?
Speaker 4: Now we know the order of all So that's going
Speaker 4: to make a difference.
Speaker 3: On how I think weeks of desperation.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, there's too much time on your.
Speaker 4: And at least one of us, I'm assuming, make it.
Speaker 4: You saw them on Saturday. I did, all right, at
Speaker 4: least one of them saw the New Cowboys. Yea, where
Speaker 4: were you guys Saturday? Well, I was at a for
Speaker 4: and under soccer game four and under. They're they're playing
Speaker 4: soccer at age four these well, actually, my grandson, James
Speaker 4: actually started.
Speaker 6: I thought you were going to call it, yeah, broadcast.
Speaker 3: Learning soccer.
Speaker 4: Actually, my grandson he started playing at age three. James
Speaker 4: started playing last year age three. This year, he finally
Speaker 4: got up the courage to go on the field at
Speaker 4: age four, and he was in the vicinity of the
Speaker 4: gold in his last game on Saturday morning and almost
Speaker 4: kicked the ball into the goal but didn't.
Speaker 3: Was the ball the ball was right, So age three
Speaker 3: he was on the team.
Speaker 4: He was on the team, but he didn't get out
Speaker 4: of his mama's lap on the field. So that's where
Speaker 4: I was on Saturday morning. I was there hoping that
Speaker 4: James would finally kick the soccer ball. So, but you
Speaker 4: had more important things to do.
Speaker 6: That's right. Watched twenty seven rookies and two tryout guys
Speaker 6: go on the field and do drills.
Speaker 3: Is any one of them a fullback? Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yes, Hunter Loopke or lipke Lepke Looke Lipkey.
Speaker 6: He looks like he looks like a fullback.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But they didn't do it.
Speaker 4: Producer Supreme. Producer Supreme said something about him.
Speaker 3: What was that.
Speaker 6: No, he said, no helmets, helmet. It was a glorified
Speaker 6: no helmets and no head. Coach mm hmm had a
Speaker 6: back procedure, Mike McCarthy, which was good because towards the
Speaker 6: end of the season he was having trouble standing up
Speaker 6: there long enough to do his press conferences. So he
Speaker 6: had that ton. Yeah, and they had one full field
Speaker 6: because the remnants of the Academy Awards, the Country Awards.
Speaker 3: Still there on the field, right.
Speaker 6: That's a good thing it didn't rain because they couldn't
Speaker 6: gone inside.
Speaker 4: They're still taking that down today. There's a few more
Speaker 4: palates that are coming off that field, right.
Speaker 6: So it was a busy weekend out here or week
Speaker 6: out here at the start, including the release of the schedule.
Speaker 4: That's right. Cool, So we've got much to get to
Speaker 4: and this is a reality really sets in for these
Speaker 4: rookies today. Though, okay, they were. It was a rookie
Speaker 4: orientation over the weekend. And now they get to rubbed
Speaker 4: shoulders with the veterans.
Speaker 6: Right right, And that was the idea to kind of
Speaker 6: get them used to the drills they were going to
Speaker 6: do and kind of the order of things that go on.
Speaker 6: Now they'll continue the weight and conditioning, plus the coaches
Speaker 6: on the field with the veterans today already got started.
Speaker 7: So so okay, the scheduling and the off season. I
Speaker 7: do recall us having a you know, OT eight with
Speaker 7: just rookies.
Speaker 3: Right, I remember that.
Speaker 6: Uh No, it was a mini camp just rookies. Yeah,
Speaker 6: two days. It's the same thing, basically an orient Because
Speaker 6: you said Ota.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about that now, you know what I'm trying
Speaker 7: to do, trying to compare that.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out, you know, what do they
Speaker 7: do from here? Because I would call rookies going in first,
Speaker 7: they do. Rookies still go in first without the.
Speaker 6: Veterans Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 7: No, I mean training camp, No, no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm comparing all of that.
Speaker 4: When you go way back into the day the rookies
Speaker 4: would show up in thousand Oaks about fourth of July.
Speaker 4: I was right after the fourth of July, basically for
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: Ever since we have rules now.
Speaker 4: And that's that's a great point because but even the
Speaker 4: rules have changed, even from five years ago, from two
Speaker 4: years ago they did with the new CBA, and this
Speaker 4: offseason goes very very quickly for those coaches. Every one
Speaker 4: of these days is so important for not only for
Speaker 4: the rookies, even starting right now out because of the
Speaker 4: limited amount of time that they can work with it with.
Speaker 6: And if I remember correctly, it goes even quicker for
Speaker 6: the Cowboys because I think they got fined a practice
Speaker 6: or two for working too hard.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that's right, that's right to physically.
Speaker 3: Who snitched, who dropped a dime.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they have somebody in the NFL or nfl
Speaker 6: PA hovering overhead.
Speaker 3: Right because we would go in.
Speaker 7: I think we were ten days without anyone, just rookies,
Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4: Ten days.
Speaker 7: I know we're getting way ahead, But it was ten
Speaker 7: days without anyone, just just rookies. In the veterans, the
Speaker 7: wide receivers and the running backs and qbs would come
Speaker 7: in after ten not not the D line and the
Speaker 7: O line and all that, just a specialist.
Speaker 3: And then they come here, comes to the big guys.
Speaker 4: What would you do in May?
Speaker 3: May wouldn't do anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, see that was that was the difference then, is
Speaker 4: that you.
Speaker 6: Have a mini camp.
Speaker 3: It's ot as it was mini camp.
Speaker 4: Back there, but it would be that would be like
Speaker 4: a three day mini camp.
Speaker 3: It would That's what it was, right, It was a
Speaker 3: three day mini camp.
Speaker 4: Rather than a which is basically a two month off
Speaker 4: season program that it's voluntary. And now you do have
Speaker 4: the three day mandatory mini camp to come.
Speaker 3: Everybody out of shape, Yeah, because we hadn't done anything.
Speaker 3: And that's why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you pick.
Speaker 3: Train the camp to get in shape.
Speaker 7: You would go to camp most guys out of shape,
Speaker 7: and you get in shape in training camp.
Speaker 3: That's why it was so much barfing going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well there used to be barfing going on in
Speaker 6: the rookie mini camp until they decided to pull back
Speaker 6: and not get out there and start playing eleven on
Speaker 6: eleven or seven on seven because they were getting so
Speaker 6: many injuries because guys weren't in shape even though they
Speaker 6: had just gone through the draft process. They were preparing
Speaker 6: for the combine the Underwear Olympics and workouts and they're
Speaker 6: traveling to pro days.
Speaker 7: And now BIB board did have an off season program
Speaker 7: for all of us laid out, but it was up
Speaker 7: to you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so well it's kind of up to them now,
Speaker 6: but you.
Speaker 3: Better be here. It's different, right volunteering now.
Speaker 6: Unless you're parties and you decide you want to work
Speaker 6: out in Austin instead of here.
Speaker 4: Well, the other part of it is there's a lot
Speaker 4: more money flowing around these days, and so you can
Speaker 4: have your own personal trainers, and.
Speaker 3: So I think they do. They have incentives to work
Speaker 3: out in some of them.
Speaker 7: Do y see they didn't give it down back then.
Speaker 6: Workout bonuses for guys that you think might be lazy.
Speaker 4: Interesting Yeah wow, But you just look at the calendar
Speaker 4: even now and they set up right now. And we
Speaker 4: talk about the n f L, p A and the
Speaker 4: and the CBA and the limited amount of time that
Speaker 4: coaches have to work with a lot of it's on
Speaker 4: the players, and you know, especially these teams that have
Speaker 4: new quarterbacks coming, like a Bryce Young, like a CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud in Houston. The time is running short already for
Speaker 4: rookies to get acclimated and learn what it takes and
Speaker 4: to start learning a playbook and so forth. That's being
Speaker 4: implemented as we go along.
Speaker 7: And free agency much more prevalent now. Of course, back
Speaker 7: then you wouldn't have many guys changing teams at all.
Speaker 6: And if you look at it, by the middle of June,
Speaker 6: they're done until they go to training camp, and here
Speaker 6: is six weeks between. It seems counterproductive. Why don't you
Speaker 6: do this and then lead into training camp?
Speaker 4: They got to have vacation on a vacation, vacation, vacation.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 6: You sound like a player.
Speaker 4: Don't you think the coaches need a vacation.
Speaker 3: I think coaches really need a vacation.
Speaker 6: They should the vacations first and then lead into training camp.
Speaker 7: But they probably see that as too continuous, you know,
Speaker 7: I mean, it's stressful out.
Speaker 4: You got to get the hay in the barn. Here's
Speaker 4: the deal. If if you took a vacation now and
Speaker 4: then had the rookies everybody start reporting June fifteenth whatever, okay,
Speaker 4: May fifteenth, The June fifteenth is vacation time, and then
Speaker 4: you get everybody is the build up for training camp
Speaker 4: and so forth. The coaches are going to be they're
Speaker 4: not going to be taking a vacation now because you
Speaker 4: just got these players and you got to get these
Speaker 4: players up to speak. Now for the next month, you
Speaker 4: can at least mentally get them up to speed on everything.
Speaker 4: Now they know what they have to do. Now you're
Speaker 4: on your own for a month before training camp to
Speaker 4: stay in shape and learn this playbook.
Speaker 3: And so got split it up.
Speaker 4: And then the other part of it is the season
Speaker 4: is so long where if you started June fifteenth, then
Speaker 4: you're playing until hopefully it'll February fifteenth. So vacation, we
Speaker 4: don't get vacation.
Speaker 6: There's no lead out.
Speaker 4: So that's right, every day's of vacation.
Speaker 6: All right, So what did you think of the schedule?
Speaker 3: And alright, anything h New York Jets. Baby.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what the disappointing thing was is the
Speaker 6: Cowboys three preseason games, and we were figuring they would
Speaker 6: play one away preseason game at Vegas, but it's a
Speaker 6: home game, so they're going to Seattle Way for the one.
Speaker 4: And for those who don't know the preseason schedule, Week
Speaker 4: one is Jacksonville at home. Week two at Seattle and
Speaker 4: then Week three Las Vegas at home.
Speaker 6: So that sounds like a little bit of travel because
Speaker 6: they're going to end up traveling here for the home
Speaker 6: game from training camp, going back out there, and then
Speaker 6: traveling to Seattle, and who knows if they go back
Speaker 6: to ox.
Speaker 4: Think they would come here.
Speaker 6: First, straight here and show up after you're gone four
Speaker 6: and a half weeks. You show up at five o'clock
Speaker 6: in the morning.
Speaker 4: And we don't have the exact dates yet. They haven't
Speaker 4: been set on the preseason schedule. It just goes by weeks,
Speaker 4: and so you can play anywhere between a Thursday and
Speaker 4: a Sunday in one of the preseason weeks.
Speaker 6: Hey, maybe they get a break on game two, they
Speaker 6: play the Jets here and Aaron Rodgers he won't be
Speaker 6: acclimated to his new team already.
Speaker 4: But do you ask the question what stood out more
Speaker 4: than anything? It's for the first six on the road
Speaker 4: and in the middle of the schedule you get five
Speaker 4: of seven at home and then you close with three
Speaker 4: out of four on the road.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, but you know it's kind of equitable. You
Speaker 6: get those that stretch of home games and obviously you
Speaker 6: got to play away games and they got to play
Speaker 6: one more extra road game right this year on the
Speaker 6: seventeen game schedule, because.
Speaker 4: The NFC teams are playing at the AFC teams on
Speaker 4: that seventeenth game.
Speaker 6: Right here, and what stuck out to me is the
Speaker 6: three game stretch where you got to play home against Philadelphia,
Speaker 6: at Buffalo, and at Miami. That's going to be a
Speaker 6: tough grind. And then even coming home against Detroit, who's
Speaker 6: which is a much improved team.
Speaker 4: So much improved that they get the Marquee game staff.
Speaker 4: The seasons come a long way, Dan Campbell before the game,
Speaker 4: that's what hard knocks will do for you.
Speaker 6: But that that three game stretch Philadelphia, Buffalo, Miami with
Speaker 6: at Buffalo and at Miami, that's a pretty that right there,
Speaker 6: to me, is going to determine what happens with this team.
Speaker 7: I'm just looking at different matchups that would be exciting,
Speaker 7: and you know what goes with it, the two row
Speaker 7: games October eighth, October sixteenth, San Francisco and Chargers.
Speaker 3: I think early on that will let us know where
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 6: And it's not only they're both away games meaning long trips.
Speaker 6: Right The fortunate thing is the going back for the
Speaker 6: Chargers game. It's a Monday night game, so you get
Speaker 6: an extra day and the bye to recover. And then yeah,
Speaker 6: and the buye is in a good spot after what's
Speaker 6: six games, but it's really after nine games with the
Speaker 6: three preseason games. So yeah, I just thought when you
Speaker 6: look at it, it's fair. Uh. The good thing is
Speaker 6: they're not you know, I know the games at Carolina, Uh,
Speaker 6: the Sunday before Thanksgiving, but that's not that long of
Speaker 6: a flight.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: And then you play the next two Thursday nights at
Speaker 6: home Washington Seattle, where there's been previous years they've played
Speaker 6: a night game in New York. It seemed like on Sunday,
Speaker 6: come back and play on Thanksgiving and then go on
Speaker 6: the road again on the following Thursday. And so at
Speaker 6: least they gave them somewhat of a break there. Plus
Speaker 6: the Thursday game obviously it's a night game, so it's
Speaker 6: a night game. And then they get the long break
Speaker 6: and play another night game at Philadelphia. So five primetime
Speaker 6: games along with Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7: NFC East the back part of the season, second part
Speaker 7: of the season, a lot of home games for the
Speaker 7: NFC East that'll keep us in contention in case we
Speaker 7: start having some issues because we're on the road doing
Speaker 7: the first part of the season at Philly, first at
Speaker 7: New York. We don't get an NFC East home game
Speaker 7: until the Giants. Am I looking at this right?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 4: November twelfth, November twelfth the Giants, November twenty third, Washington,
Speaker 4: and then December tenth Philadelphia. You know, when you look
Speaker 4: at the schedule though, and compare it with the Eagles
Speaker 4: schedule and with all of your division rivals, there's only
Speaker 4: three games on the schedule that differ essentially from your
Speaker 4: rivals in the division. And because the NFC East is
Speaker 4: playing the AFC East and the NFC West this year,
Speaker 4: so everybody's playing those teams, and so for the Cowboys
Speaker 4: those three games that are different from the Eagles. The Cowboys,
Speaker 4: because they were the second place team in their division,
Speaker 4: will play at the Chargers at Carolina, and a home
Speaker 4: against Detroit, while you look at Philadelphia and they play
Speaker 4: at Kansas City, the first place team from the AFC West.
Speaker 4: Cowboys got the Chargers at Minnesota, the first place team
Speaker 4: in the NFC I'm sorry, they play Tampa Bay, which
Speaker 4: is the first place team from the NFC South. While
Speaker 4: the Cowboys get Carolina, and they get Minnesota, the first
Speaker 4: place team from the NFC North, while the Cowboys get Detroit.
Speaker 6: So, which is why when it comes to strength of schedule,
Speaker 6: Philly has the heart artist. They're playing their strength to schedule.
Speaker 6: They're playing teams with a five point fifty six winning
Speaker 6: percentage from last year. Miami second, the Cowboys, New England
Speaker 6: and the Giants are tied for third most at five
Speaker 6: forty nine. So yeah, and the reason why the Cowboys
Speaker 6: schedule looks so tough, Number one, they got to play
Speaker 6: within their division and everybody in the at six games
Speaker 6: against teams with at least eight wins. Right, remember last
Speaker 6: year it was the exact opposite.
Speaker 4: It's such an easy schedule because they get to play
Speaker 4: the right exactly. Yeah, that's right. In a year from now,
Speaker 4: we might be sitting there going, well, they got the
Speaker 4: easiest schedule because they're getting to play.
Speaker 6: Then, yeah and so, and also playing the AFC East,
Speaker 6: which includes Buffalo and Miami obviously the Jets. So what
Speaker 6: I what I what I UH saw was of the
Speaker 6: top nine strength of schedules, six of those teams are
Speaker 6: or No. Eight of the teams belong in the NFC
Speaker 6: East or the a f C East because number one,
Speaker 6: they got to play each other. Their division was pretty
Speaker 6: good last year it was and uh, and then they
Speaker 6: got to play against each other again.
Speaker 7: Look at right before Christmas, you're at Buffalo and at
Speaker 7: Miami back to back.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are these are some really intriguing.
Speaker 7: Matchups, and not just the one game matchup, but you're
Speaker 7: looking at stretches of intriguing matchups.
Speaker 6: Oh and one other note on that the NFC East
Speaker 6: was the only division without a team with a losing record.
Speaker 3: Then least you mean eight eight and one Washington. Okay.
Speaker 4: Producer Supreme has asked me to look up the Seattle's
Speaker 4: schedule prior to the Thursday night game against the Cowboys,
Speaker 4: which you pointed out. The Thursday, November thirtieth, Cowboys host Seattle.
Speaker 4: The week the games leading up to that for Seattle,
Speaker 4: the previous week they play Thanksgiving at home against San Francisco.
Speaker 4: That's the Thanksgiving night game, Okay, And the previous Sunday
Speaker 4: they play at the Rams, and prior to that at
Speaker 4: home against Washington.
Speaker 3: Why are we looking at that.
Speaker 6: Well, because they're doing the You were talking, Mickey that
Speaker 6: sometimes the NFL schedule us on the road, come home.
Speaker 3: Does that make the road and then on the road again.
Speaker 3: So that's what they have.
Speaker 4: So the week before Thanksgiving, Seattle plays at the Rams,
Speaker 4: comes home a three to twenty five game at home
Speaker 4: against San Francisco, and then they go on the road
Speaker 4: to Dallas. You know, I don't look at it the Thursday.
Speaker 4: I think it's really good for the Cowboys that they've
Speaker 4: got the Thursday game after the Thursday game because.
Speaker 6: And not have to break up another week.
Speaker 4: And then they get you know, for years the league
Speaker 4: thought that the Cowboys had an advantage by having the
Speaker 4: mini bye week the weekend after Thanksgiving. Well you just
Speaker 4: you just move it back a week and that they
Speaker 4: get the mini buy the more the longer stretch before
Speaker 4: their final stretch of the season. I think it'll benefit
Speaker 4: them going into playing a home game against Philadelphia December tenth,
Speaker 4: that they got some extra time before playing Philadelphia December
Speaker 4: tenth at home.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, Yeah, that's uh. That helps out. But
Speaker 6: you still got to play the three games in twelve.
Speaker 7: Days tougher how you break it down, three games and
Speaker 7: twelve days.
Speaker 4: But everybody in the league's got to do that, right
Speaker 4: because everybody's got to play a Thursday game at some point,
Speaker 4: and now they're you know, they're two Thursday games for
Speaker 4: so and the Cowboys have been doing it for several
Speaker 4: years now getting two Thursday games. But it's good that
Speaker 4: they've always put it back to back.
Speaker 6: So night, September tenth, so you got Giants to open
Speaker 6: the season.
Speaker 4: I got seventeen and oh, okay, every year I have
Speaker 4: seventeen and oh or sixteen and oh prior to that.
Speaker 8: And then the wheels come off, and then a Super
Speaker 8: Bowl and a Super Bowls come off way before seen b.
Speaker 4: I do like the opener against Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 7: Do I love the home opener? Yeah, it's always good
Speaker 7: to have some excitement. I mean, it's not just the matchups,
Speaker 7: but you know the stuff that goes on off the field.
Speaker 4: And how about even the season opening weekend. The Cowboys
Speaker 4: play the Giants in the Sunday night game, and then
Speaker 4: on Monday night, same stadium, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
Speaker 4: host the Buffalo Bills. So you can actually, Mickey stay
Speaker 4: over and scout the next opponent, the Aaron Rodgers or
Speaker 4: the Jets. If you want.
Speaker 3: You could take New York for a week, so the
Speaker 3: Jets will have a short week going into the camp.
Speaker 4: That's right. So there you go.
Speaker 3: You want to take a positive of that.
Speaker 6: Uh huh, poor Jets and Aaron.
Speaker 4: The other thing on this is him in the back
Speaker 4: rooms here at the Star in Frisco. How much are
Speaker 4: they focused?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: Now that's the that's what happens when the schedule comes out.
Speaker 4: Now you know your first few games of the season,
Speaker 4: and you can actually start preparing for Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 4: the Jets knowing that okay, second game of the year,
Speaker 4: you can study as much Aaron Rodgers rather than if
Speaker 4: it were the seventh and seenth game of the year
Speaker 4: or the sixteenth game of the year. You know, you
Speaker 4: can pretty much.
Speaker 6: Expect that they So.
Speaker 7: You know, you look at these three these games. New
Speaker 7: York is looking to make some money for those two weeks.
Speaker 7: Especially Cowboys come to town. You've got just of course
Speaker 7: it's there for the year. And then Buffaloes comes down
Speaker 7: the first two weeks.
Speaker 4: First two days, first two days.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, but that gonna make some money that weekend.
Speaker 4: That's by design. Yeah, all right, we continue and we
Speaker 4: got to get mixed shots on what happened on Saturday
Speaker 4: morning here at the Star in Frisco, and we come back.
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Speaker 4: Okay, So on Saturday morning, the Cowboys had a open
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Speaker 4: That's right? Well, Louise Perez out of Texas A and
Speaker 4: M Commerce. Does he signed with anyone.
Speaker 6: Yet unless he did it today? I hadn't seen that
Speaker 6: he had. Ben Denucci signed with Denver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Denver Bronco Broncos. Wow.
Speaker 6: Really he turned in his XFL season into at least
Speaker 6: a tryout workout with Jennifer.
Speaker 4: I'm doing searches on Luis Perez, the MVP, who, by
Speaker 4: the way, was the Harlan Hill Trophy winner at Texas
Speaker 4: A and m COMMERCE, leading them national championship in about
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, or this guy man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I coached him at this art game. Yes.
Speaker 6: Well, he's been around to several leagues and you know,
Speaker 6: off seasons with NFL teams, and.
Speaker 4: He was not with this Arlington Renegades team as the
Speaker 4: season started. He was with Vegas, the Vegas Vipers, and
Speaker 4: then the the very shrewd Bob Stoops picked him up
Speaker 4: and they let him do a championship.
Speaker 6: He had a pretty good championship game too, stats were good.
Speaker 4: And of the game against Wade Phillips defense too. He
Speaker 4: did not throw a pick through three touchdown passes in
Speaker 4: each of those games. It was aiightman like from.
Speaker 8: Now as bringing down the bitch, please jes Well in
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety two and he had nine touchdown passes and
Speaker 8: only one pick in the postseason.
Speaker 6: His only downside is I think he's twenty eight, so
Speaker 6: I don't know if teams will take a chance on
Speaker 6: a twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Year old quarterbacks. Probably until that thirty eight this shouldn't
Speaker 3: be a problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but at this point he's trying to be the
Speaker 6: third quarterback.
Speaker 4: Propably, so I'd take a look at him.
Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't know. You would, You wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: There's also another player on their team, Willie Taylor, a
Speaker 4: defensive player who might be their top defensive player, and
Speaker 4: he was draft eligible, went undrafted. He started his career
Speaker 4: at Washington State and he wound up at Eastern Kentucky,
Speaker 4: and he decided instead of doing preparing for the draft
Speaker 4: and doing that stuff, he decided to go ahead and
Speaker 4: play in the XFL this spring. And I would imagine
Speaker 4: he is getting signed pretty quickly here.
Speaker 6: So what do you guys want to know? Fire away?
Speaker 6: See if I have answers for you for the mini
Speaker 6: who quarterback we got to we got to meet that
Speaker 6: some of the draft choices on Friday. We had open
Speaker 6: locker room and then they didn't really have a workout.
Speaker 6: The quarterback was one. Where's my list here? Matthew Matthew
Speaker 6: McKay from Elon an undrafted rookie on a tryout, right,
Speaker 6: So yeah, he was. I saw somebody taking snaps on
Speaker 6: Friday when they were above the weight room, and I
Speaker 6: was like, well, maybe they just made somebody who played
Speaker 6: high school football as a quarterback take some snaps. But
Speaker 6: they brought him had two guys in his on tryout basis.
Speaker 6: But they really didn't do you know, they didn't do much.
Speaker 4: The reason I asked that the Cowboys just have three
Speaker 4: quarterbacks on the roster, right, yes, and so do they
Speaker 4: need to add a fourth quarterback just to get through
Speaker 4: for in our developmental guy to maybe a practice squad guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but if they thought that was a priority, they
Speaker 6: would have brought somebody in more than a try out, right, So.
Speaker 4: So they haven't found one that they liked it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that says, okay, we're gonna you know, I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna say waist snaps on, but you know, get.
Speaker 3: Very crude throughout your career of go ahead and say,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't.
Speaker 6: Try to be nice now the camp body, right, all right?
Speaker 6: You mentioned uh there were no kickers there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: Tristan Viscayano uh is on this roster. Fossil talked at
Speaker 6: great length about kickers uh, And I thought his key
Speaker 6: thing was when somebody said, so, what are you looking
Speaker 6: at at kicker and he said, right now, Tris and
Speaker 6: anybody on Earth that's not on another team right now.
Speaker 6: So it's wide open. He pointed out. He goes, there's
Speaker 6: no secret that there's you know, three veterans out there
Speaker 6: that people know, Mason Crosby, Robbie Gould and Ryan suck Up.
Speaker 6: Part of the problem with some of these guys is
Speaker 6: their kickoffs. Like gool you would need a kickoff guy,
Speaker 6: And that was something that I think got overlooked of
Speaker 6: how well Brett Maher did the whole season long, not
Speaker 6: only was still out there too. And by the way,
Speaker 6: his name David, you didn't mention him, no, no, no, no, Fossil.
Speaker 6: Fossil basically said anything's open at this point. And if
Speaker 6: you think about what he did this year, now he
Speaker 6: kicked in twenty two games if we count preseason. If
Speaker 6: the Cowboys and make the playoffs, think about this and
Speaker 6: the season he had. Somebody would have paid him and
Speaker 6: maybe the Cowboys three million dollars a year, right, And
Speaker 6: unfortunately he had the one game at Tampa Bay, and
Speaker 6: that kind of clouded his entire.
Speaker 3: And the San Francisco game was kind of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the first time, a little bit shaky.
Speaker 6: But if you looked at the regular season, he was
Speaker 6: twenty nine of thirty two on field goals and two
Speaker 6: of the misses were from fifty nine and one from
Speaker 6: forty six. He was fifty to fifty three on extra points,
Speaker 6: and if I remember, I think one of them might
Speaker 6: have gotten blocked. So at nine of eleven on fifty
Speaker 6: plus field goal attempts.
Speaker 7: So here's my thing. Was there any game that we
Speaker 7: could say or two games, I'd say two and not
Speaker 7: just one game. Can we say two games where he
Speaker 7: lost the game for us with his inability to make
Speaker 7: field goals or extra points.
Speaker 6: Well, they overcame the extra points against Tampa Bay in
Speaker 6: the playoffs. Yes, San Francisco one got blocked, right, but
Speaker 6: it was it was really bad, and then he made
Speaker 6: another one, by the way, So no, I don't think
Speaker 6: he ended up losing. They were going to lose that
Speaker 6: Washington game and there was a little struggle there. And
Speaker 6: if we remember Tampa Bay, remember before when I came back,
Speaker 6: I told you the field was lumpy. Yeah, and he
Speaker 6: got I think he got psyched out on it when
Speaker 6: he was walking around on it. But other than that,
Speaker 6: I asked, and he's still out there, and from what
Speaker 6: I can tell is he really hasn't had a workout anywhere.
Speaker 6: He's back in Nebraska with his family.
Speaker 7: I just asked it because your stats, the stats that
Speaker 7: you just called out, they were amazing. And that's we
Speaker 7: could look at it as you know, optimistic versus pessimistic, Right,
Speaker 7: are we so optimistic about what he's done previously to
Speaker 7: And it was a stretch of games. It wasn't just
Speaker 7: like a spot.
Speaker 6: Here and then he didn't miss.
Speaker 7: This was a stretch of games. I'm talking about the incompetence.
Speaker 7: This is stretch of games where what the hell is
Speaker 7: going on right right now? This is when you want
Speaker 7: to start doing this?
Speaker 3: And he is.
Speaker 7: They've lost all confidence, I believe, lost all confidence in
Speaker 7: him in the locker room.
Speaker 6: Well, I think that if they're going to have a kickoff,
Speaker 6: I mean, do you at least give him that opportunity.
Speaker 7: I think he deserves a lot more than what he's
Speaker 7: getting now. But it's difficult to make a case for
Speaker 7: him right and that is the dilemma.
Speaker 3: He was amazing throughout the regular finish.
Speaker 6: The finished the regular season making ten of ten field
Speaker 6: goals and a.
Speaker 7: Couple of those botes they had. He had some a
Speaker 7: couple of field goals that will really clutch for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, during the season.
Speaker 6: So but you know, they did they they liked the
Speaker 6: guys they got drafted in the this year, but they
Speaker 6: went in the third and fourth round. They were thinking, well,
Speaker 6: they knew if they didn't do it in the third
Speaker 6: or fourth they weren't going to get either one of them.
Speaker 4: Clearly other teams liked them too.
Speaker 6: Yes, Uh, Ryland was the one they liked the most,
Speaker 6: and I think he went in the fourth round. The
Speaker 6: kid from Michigan went in the third round. Ryland was
Speaker 6: from Maryland. Uh, they were hoping, they were hoping fifth
Speaker 6: or sixth, but that wasn't gonna happen. So now, you know,
Speaker 6: you look at what's going on in the USFL, the XFL.
Speaker 6: I think what they they're thinking is if you bring
Speaker 6: in a veteran, you know what you're getting, right, You've
Speaker 6: seen it. The guy's got some history in the NFL.
Speaker 6: But again, you know those guys probably are waiting till
Speaker 6: somebody gets desperate. So Viscayano has not been terrible in
Speaker 6: the NFL. He just hasn't really gotten much of an opportunity.
Speaker 6: Uh So he's going to get an opportunity, and they're
Speaker 6: gonna have to you know, Judge, can they because they
Speaker 6: brought him in here before, you know, can they go
Speaker 6: with this? Or is there somebody else out there that.
Speaker 7: If he would have continued with the same consistency throughout
Speaker 7: the playoffs end of the season, throughout the playoffs, we
Speaker 7: wouldn't really be looking at Mayes.
Speaker 6: Oh no, they would have paid him three million a year.
Speaker 6: Think about that.
Speaker 7: I still think we're in good position with a kicker.
Speaker 7: I still like him. You know, I wouldn't mind going
Speaker 7: into the season with him. I feel very confident in that.
Speaker 7: How does he feel the question? Has anyone interviewed them
Speaker 7: and talked to him?
Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything. So and then it's a matter
Speaker 6: of you know, when you bring him, are you holding
Speaker 6: your breath?
Speaker 7: And that's the thing. No one feels confident about him
Speaker 7: right now. Yeah, as good a season as he had,
Speaker 7: and that's just the dilemma. We should feel better about
Speaker 7: him and we don't.
Speaker 6: And you would have a new deep snapper this year.
Speaker 6: The holder would still be the same the hold.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So anyway, that was a big part of Fossil's discussion
Speaker 6: when he did his interview.
Speaker 4: That's watching a lot of USFL games, watch everything, right.
Speaker 6: And uh and then he you know, two of his
Speaker 6: best guys Gifford and who was the other guy, Noah
Speaker 6: Brown no longer here, So he's got some openings on.
Speaker 6: I know, people don't, you know, worry about special teams,
Speaker 6: but one of the guys that I think you can
Speaker 6: put a circle around is Overshawn. They look at him,
Speaker 6: is maybe a really good special teams player and then
Speaker 6: how do you say it? Bill lip Key Hunter Lepke.
Speaker 6: He's a do everything dude. Pretty interesting guy because when
Speaker 6: I was talking to him, I go, so full back.
Speaker 6: You didn't grow up wanting to be a fullback, right?
Speaker 6: And he was a running back quarterback in high school
Speaker 6: and he got to North Dakota State and they said, hey,
Speaker 6: why don't we try this? But not only he wasn't
Speaker 6: just a lead blocker. He ran the football from a
Speaker 6: tailback position at North Carolina State, North Dakota State, North
Speaker 6: Dakota I'm sorry and yeah in his career and he
Speaker 6: good hands. They threw the ball to him, and I
Speaker 6: also double checked with him and it was like, so,
Speaker 6: did they really snap it to you in wild card?
Speaker 6: He goes, absolutely, they did. So he was kind of
Speaker 6: one of these do everything guys. And when I mentioned
Speaker 6: I mentioned special teams, he goes, oh, yeah, all four.
Speaker 6: So that's another spot that they've got to be able
Speaker 6: to fill.
Speaker 3: He could be another different Yeah, it'd be good.
Speaker 4: His stats at North Dakota State, would you like his
Speaker 4: career stats or his last season at Altago? Last last
Speaker 4: season and ten games played, he had ninety eight carries
Speaker 4: for six hundred and twenty one yards and nine touchdowns,
Speaker 4: averaging six point three yards of carry. He had fourteen
Speaker 4: receptions for one hundred and ninety six yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but look at his career.
Speaker 4: Career career touchdowns he had thirty three. He had twenty
Speaker 4: four rushing and nine receiving touchdowns in his career at
Speaker 4: North Dakota State.
Speaker 6: So interesting, and he's like one of these guys that
Speaker 6: will basically do whatever they ask.
Speaker 4: Right, how big is he? He's listed as six to
Speaker 4: one and one quarter inch tall, two hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: four pounds. That's what he was at the combine Can
Speaker 4: he become that big, burly fullback in this.
Speaker 6: Six one thirty six game was what They've got him
Speaker 6: listed here, And I don't know if at this point
Speaker 6: he's the guy that's going to go and dig it out,
Speaker 6: but he knows what to do. He also played tight
Speaker 6: end for him too.
Speaker 3: By the way, that's six' one.
Speaker 4: He's not playing tighty end.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yeah, good, no, but he can.
Speaker 6: I'm saying he can line up outside if you if
Speaker 6: he's in as a full bank package. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 6: interesting interesting guy. Tell The other guy that was pretty
Speaker 6: interesting to me was Isaiah land Fam you they had
Speaker 6: him listed as a defensive end, but he if you
Speaker 6: think about this, when I saw his size, he's six
Speaker 6: four two fifteen, what does that sound like?
Speaker 3: Wow, he sounds like a linebacker.
Speaker 6: That's where Yeah. And so he said they had him
Speaker 6: as edge and line back actor. Uh and and maybe
Speaker 6: he's the next you know, most j Rod.
Speaker 7: Curse most edges they can't cover one on one. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and that he's going to have to cover one on
Speaker 7: one as a lineback.
Speaker 6: But as he was the FCS twenty twenty one Defensive
Speaker 6: Player of.
Speaker 4: The Year, he won the Buchanada A ward.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so best defense kind of go to college, that's okay, don't.
Speaker 3: State university.
Speaker 6: But anyway, I thought that was that was a rhetorical question, right,
Speaker 6: And they had a lot of guys that it's kind
Speaker 6: of working multiple places, like the Awesome Richards, the tackle
Speaker 6: in the fifth round.
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 6: Awesome?
Speaker 4: It's not a C, Yes, I am, but it's pronounced awesome.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 6: He was a tackle at North Carolina. He was working
Speaker 6: at guard. The fourth round pick, Junior Fijoko was a
Speaker 6: defensive end but in a three four at San Jose State.
Speaker 6: But he said that they are looking at me as
Speaker 6: an edge and three techniques.
Speaker 3: The steal of the draft for the Cowboys. Cornerback, Oh,
Speaker 3: Eric Scott, Yes, did you talk to him?
Speaker 6: I missed his interview because I was talking with Brian
Speaker 6: Schottenheimer at the time, and but I you know, I
Speaker 6: read about him, and you know he may be and
Speaker 6: he looked good out there. I mean he's six '
Speaker 6: to one playing corner. The other guy that's interesting is Miles.
Speaker 3: Tom Wait, let me find it.
Speaker 6: Miles Brooks, Okay, cornerback Louisiana Tech. He spent his first
Speaker 6: three years at steven F Austin. Uh, they really like
Speaker 6: him six Uh interesting fact I found out about him.
Speaker 6: So he's from Fluggerville, Deuce Vaughan, Round Rock. They had
Speaker 6: ended up playing against each other in high school, but
Speaker 6: as a fresh when they were starting their freshman years
Speaker 6: in high school, Chris Vaughan the Cowboys. Scott Dews's dad
Speaker 6: started coaching a seven on seven team in Austin. They
Speaker 6: didn't have a seven on seventeen when Deuce was going
Speaker 6: into high school and he started coaching one and he
Speaker 6: had those two guys on his team. So just a
Speaker 6: little that is interesting.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, you've got one more break, and then
Speaker 4: I want to hear about Mickey's conversation with Brian Shott
Speaker 4: when we come back here.
Speaker 3: On mix Shots.
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Speaker 4: Final couple of minutes here of mixed shots and some
Speaker 4: news quarterback news around the league. Matt Ryan no longer
Speaker 4: on the market.
Speaker 6: He was retired.
Speaker 4: He's going to CBS, going to CBS as a gig.
Speaker 6: Coming after your job.
Speaker 4: He's like a doctor, didn't he Doctor Ryan?
Speaker 3: Doctor? Iyan? Soap up with that?
Speaker 6: Okay, you're ready for my cliff.
Speaker 4: There was there was a quarterback. There was a quarterback
Speaker 4: in this league, last name Ryan, who was a doctor? Okay, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll have that at the end of the show for you, Mickey.
Speaker 4: In the meantime, that's a little trivia question. Who is
Speaker 4: the who is the quarterback in this league? Who was
Speaker 4: a doctor? But you go ahead, Mickey and say what
Speaker 4: you're going to say first.
Speaker 6: All right, quick few notes here. Dan Quinn cleared up
Speaker 6: this deal about Parsons being a full time defensive end
Speaker 6: just because he said he wanted to put on some
Speaker 6: more weight at the home run derby, and basically he
Speaker 6: was putting on another five or seven pounds. He said
Speaker 6: a muscle. Dan Quinn said he's a pass rushing linebacker,
Speaker 6: so they're not making a position change there. Scoon Maker,
Speaker 6: scoon Maker tight end. He didn't do much. I think
Speaker 6: he's still recovering from a shoulder repair. But I was
Speaker 6: told that he is a pretty good blocker, and Brian
Speaker 6: Schottenheimer said he can control the SA gap, meaning at
Speaker 6: the end of the line of scrimmage in the run
Speaker 6: game that he can block. And he also said he
Speaker 6: watches tape of one Jason Witten, so at least he's
Speaker 6: good head on his shoulders. Right, Let's see what else
Speaker 6: I got here real quick, I said Isaiah Lamb. We
Speaker 6: did lucky, oh Darien Thompson, he's an assistant coach now
Speaker 6: helping out and he was working with Overshewan on his
Speaker 6: linebacker drops working pretty hard too. And the surgery that
Speaker 6: Tony Pollard.
Speaker 3: Had, remember we're getting an update.
Speaker 6: He fractured the ale fibula, but it was up high,
Speaker 6: which they didn't do anything. That'll just take care of itself.
Speaker 6: But the ligament danes damage he had was between the
Speaker 6: tibia and the phibia, and what he had instead of
Speaker 6: them going in and using screws. Now they call it
Speaker 6: a tight rope surgery where they go in and basically
Speaker 6: tie the ligaments from the front and back together and
Speaker 6: they don't have to go back in and take out
Speaker 6: the screws. I was told. And it's the same surgery
Speaker 6: that Tua had when he sprained his ankle.
Speaker 8: So that sounds like more of a sprain, yeah, but
Speaker 8: it's it was like two ligaments and so at the
Speaker 8: tip of the bottom tip.
Speaker 6: So that's when he faster, faster recovery. He don't need
Speaker 6: a second surgeon, okay.
Speaker 3: And he's a healthy doing.
Speaker 6: He was out there doing rehab. I mean not during
Speaker 6: the mini camp, but he's been out there rehabbing. And
Speaker 6: oh and Terrence Steele basically said that they told him
Speaker 6: his recovery is being a lot faster than most guys
Speaker 6: and it just listening to him, it didn't sound like
Speaker 6: they mentioned anything about playing guard to him. So for
Speaker 6: now May fifteen, he's a tackle.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Now, would you like to know the answer to my triper?
Speaker 6: I was trying to hurry so we had time for that.
Speaker 4: All right. You don't have any ian.
Speaker 3: Very important.
Speaker 4: You have no idea who I'm talking about. A doctor
Speaker 4: name Ryan who played quarterback in the National Football League Falcons. Nope,
Speaker 4: he played for the Cleveland Browns. He lost a playoff
Speaker 4: game to your Dallas Cowboys. Oh, fifty two to fourteen
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty seven. Christmas Eve, nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 3: He's got it.
Speaker 6: He's got it, Bill, it's one.
Speaker 4: A doctor name Ryan who played quarterback in the National
Speaker 4: Football He.
Speaker 3: Was ten years younger.
Speaker 4: He would have just Oh, Mickey used to be able
Speaker 4: to get this.
Speaker 6: I know it.
Speaker 4: He making sure on this. Okay, you want me to
Speaker 4: tell your heads?
Speaker 6: Put me out, Doctor Frank Ryan. Ryan.
Speaker 4: Frank Ryan, who by the way, was born in Fort Worth, Texas,
Speaker 4: with to Pascal High School. He earned his doctorate in
Speaker 4: mathematics at Rice University. No, but he was a doctor,
Speaker 4: doctor Frank Ryan. I remember the great Frank Blieber calling
Speaker 4: him Doctor Frank Ryan. Quarterback in the Cleveland Browns against
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. And it was a great Cowboys victory. It
Speaker 4: was very good, fifty two to fourteen in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 6: And now you know to the hospital and the rest
Speaker 6: and that of the story that got him to the
Speaker 6: NFL Championship game against green Bay.
Speaker 4: And you didn't have to bring that up. Oh sorry, yes,
Speaker 4: but it did. And that was the Ice Bowl, Yes,
Speaker 4: it was the following week. Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, greatest, So.
Speaker 4: Hopefully Matt Ryan will have the same post NFL career
Speaker 4: that Frank Ryan.
Speaker 8: Greatest, Greatest, I can't remember that greatest in a septed
Speaker 8: in the end zone at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: By the way, Okay, we'll have more on that when
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