WEBVTT - Is It Time For a Third Party?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika d. Mallory and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ship Boy my Son in general.

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<v Speaker 1>We are your host of t M I.

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<v Speaker 3>Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and inspiration.

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<v Speaker 1>Name New Energy.

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<v Speaker 4>But my son Lennon, what's going on today?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen? Man, I'm here. You know, I woke up, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a little breath.

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<v Speaker 4>In my lungs. You said you was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well today you know, the world is still switching.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, turning, It's still turning, still.

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<v Speaker 4>Still moving, still moving.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. I guess from my perspective, how I feel right

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<v Speaker 1>now is like there's just days left before people go

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<v Speaker 1>read my whole life. And I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, Ain't nothing, ain't nothing to fear with fear I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a really powerful review that was released. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't even know if they released it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna be careful and not say who gave

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<v Speaker 1>me this review. But it's a really important one in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. And in the review they talk about my

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<v Speaker 1>book and they say, well, you know, they say it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a busy story. It's got a lot going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, but it's powerful, and it's very vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>and authentic and they say that, you know that pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>It like in other words, it tugs at the heartstrings

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<v Speaker 1>of people, like you can feel this black activist go

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<v Speaker 1>from being all over the place to getting her life

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<v Speaker 1>together and growing through the ranks. And so it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's like they read the book. They read

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<v Speaker 1>the book. They read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>So was that Give me a couple of days. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna sit down.

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<v Speaker 4>It's two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in a week that it comes out, and you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't read it.

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<v Speaker 2>So but you know, but I got the book.

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to sit down. We just haven't had

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to just sit down.

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<v Speaker 4>You said last week, I was gonna read it tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've read a little bit of it and it

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<v Speaker 2>started off good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I live to tell. The story is out in

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<v Speaker 1>days February eleventh, tomorrow. If you are in Louisville, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>need you to be at the Norton Healthcare Sports and

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<v Speaker 1>Learning Center that's at three thousand West Market Street. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go to Tamika D Mallory dot com and purchase

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket. It's forty dollars. That gets you a book, ants, food,

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<v Speaker 1>and drinks. So and I just want to thank everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>My family attorney Lania Baker, Sadiqua Rentals, Tamika Palmer, Brionna

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor's mother, west Side Jen is a partner for this event.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Aka's links, Deltas, all types of folks that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the building.

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<v Speaker 4>Freeway is going to be in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Bree ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So please tomorrow, Louisville, Kentucky, if you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>come out and be with us at my first official,

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<v Speaker 1>first official book event, which is in advance, so you'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a copy before the rest of the country. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a copy of my got to pull up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Anyway, So that's what I got going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know me, man, I'm I'm gonna be there,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely gonna be a little I see my feeling in Louisville,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna make sure that we turn this thing out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna turn it out, man, turn this mother out.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. Let me get to tell you what my thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the day is. I do I do because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I just have been. I've been having the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most calls of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say that everything that happens, people call, and

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<v Speaker 1>they call and we talk, and we talk, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say this to some of the black

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<v Speaker 1>preachers across this country and some of the black men

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<v Speaker 1>and women, because we have a friend who are several

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<v Speaker 1>friends at least, but one that I had a really

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<v Speaker 1>deep conversation with who said to me, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about transgender people because if your child is transgender, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a mental health problem, and so that means that

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<v Speaker 1>they are that's not that's something you need to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with with a therapist. And I've heard that a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then I have people saying, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about immigrants because you should have came the right way. Did.

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<v Speaker 1>I have people that say Palestinians, I ain't really see

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<v Speaker 1>them with us. I don't know that they with us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all the way across the water. I don't got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with that. It feels bad, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. And some of these people, not all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>as particularly the friends of ours, they didn't either they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't vote at all, or they definitely did not vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Donald Trump. But this is just how they feel.

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<v Speaker 1>So they took a posture of being like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, but I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna really fight like hell. Then there were black pastors

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<v Speaker 1>that refused to be engaged in the election because they said, I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just can't morally the abortion piece or

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, lgbtqia or whatever these issues is just

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<v Speaker 1>not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just staying out of it. Then you add

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<v Speaker 4>people who.

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<v Speaker 1>Black men and some black women, but particularly black men,

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<v Speaker 1>who said they're taking all our opportunities away from us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I you know, we can't. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we can't build wealth because it's we always doing multiculturals,

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<v Speaker 1>too many people whatever. And now many of them are

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<v Speaker 1>saying this is crazy, like you gonna you are coming

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<v Speaker 1>out the gate trying to rescind civil rights that don't

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<v Speaker 1>just help black folks, by the way, but just civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights that are important. Now they may not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get these things done. They may not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get them done, but nonetheless they're trying to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Posture an attitude of second class citizenship for black folks

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<v Speaker 1>and others. And my whole thing that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell say to people is that first they came for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they come for you. There is no such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as isolating oppression, isolating hate. It doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 1>These people, Donald Trump, Elon Musk and them, It could

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<v Speaker 1>go on and on and on and on. They believe

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<v Speaker 1>in white nationalism, they believe in Europeans being.

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<v Speaker 4>The dominant race.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they believe in, right, And so what they

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<v Speaker 1>are attempting to do is figure out how to move

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<v Speaker 1>some people out and break the backs of black people

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<v Speaker 1>and change our conditions in terms of our rights to

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<v Speaker 1>where we have no choice but to go fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the positions of those people who they've been able to eliminate.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't care about law and order. If he cared

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<v Speaker 1>about law and order, he would never have freed people

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<v Speaker 1>who beat the shit out of cops, including a woman

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<v Speaker 1>whose head was bashed in a police officer who now

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<v Speaker 1>has a permanent mental health issue. Right, they don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about that. He doesn't care about law and order. He's

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<v Speaker 1>total opposite of that, the total opposite. So that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what it's about. It is very simply about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that there are people here who were doing certain types

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<v Speaker 1>of jobs in the you know, on the land. They

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that some of the farmers, the workers on

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<v Speaker 1>the farms weren't showing up to work because they're afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of being deported. So there are fruits and vegetables spoiling.

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<v Speaker 1>All this stuff is going to get worse. But what

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<v Speaker 1>they want to make sure is that you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunities that you think you're gonna have. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is why they're closing down DEI offices. They're doing all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things to ensure that there is not enough

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<v Speaker 1>wealth moving. Right, and if we don't change our habits,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a way we can deal with it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to spend with ourselves and build our economy up.

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<v Speaker 1>That is us building with us, right, us building with us.

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<v Speaker 1>But what they want to do is reduce the opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>so that this way you feel pressured and feel the

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<v Speaker 1>need to go fill in what they have deemed. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying I deem it that way, but what they

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<v Speaker 1>have deemed the lower class positions. That's all. It's a shuffling.

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<v Speaker 1>They're shuffling people, and they got to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things in order to get there. So what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is that whether you want to admit it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>all people who are oppressed and vulnerable are in the

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<v Speaker 1>situation together, every single one of us.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all in it together.

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<v Speaker 1>We can say we're not gonna do as much for

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<v Speaker 1>this group or that group, or we're angry or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>People went out and voted. You know, you got Muslims

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<v Speaker 1>that voted for these people because they came and met

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<v Speaker 1>with you and put up a billboard and told you

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<v Speaker 1>they were gonna do this and that and the third.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile you knew good and damn well that these

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<v Speaker 1>people were the same, if not worse than the folks

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<v Speaker 1>who were already in there. So I just that's my

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<v Speaker 1>thought of the day. My thought of the day today

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<v Speaker 1>is that Donald Trump and his homies are shuffling folks around,

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<v Speaker 1>moving some out, and trying to shuffle black folks into

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<v Speaker 1>positions that will help to keep them as number one

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody else number two in below.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they're doing. They're shuffling.

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<v Speaker 1>And similar to how there were some of us who

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<v Speaker 1>were told when enslavement became a thing on the shores

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<v Speaker 1>of Africa, they were moving our people, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>black folks whipping, snitching and organizing with them against the masses.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened because they brought the Europeans brought nice things,

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<v Speaker 1>they bought shiny things. Some of them were forced in

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<v Speaker 1>various ways. But there are others who they gave them

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<v Speaker 1>shiny things, they bought, they gave them weapons, They gave

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<v Speaker 1>them a drinks liquor with liquor was a big thing. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they made look at that time, they gave them silver.

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<v Speaker 1>They had all different types of trinkets that they dangled

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you'll be a part of us if if

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<v Speaker 1>you help us do this thing that we're doing, this experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>this plan that we have, and now we have the

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<v Speaker 1>same mentality that some of us voted for. Others of

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<v Speaker 1>us didn't do anything to stop it, didn't use our platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say one word, didn't say one word. You got

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<v Speaker 1>you have people out here who are saying, don't stop

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<v Speaker 1>supporting my brand. But they never did anything to help

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<v Speaker 1>us when we were out there trying to stop this

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<v Speaker 1>from happening. There being for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually to get these these policies that got you inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, they never.

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<v Speaker 2>Did nothing to support anything, never said anything, no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, In fact that that manager you have, that

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<v Speaker 1>business partner you have, or that rep that you have

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<v Speaker 1>that is at these big companies that told you you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Got.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta keep yourself out of that because you're a

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<v Speaker 1>business person and everybody comes from different You got people

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<v Speaker 1>might be Republican that support you. You got people that might

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<v Speaker 1>be so and so to support you. You gotta be careful.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what those people they talked you into being a

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<v Speaker 1>part of your demise, because be clear, unless we support

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<v Speaker 1>one another directly, depending on a big box store or

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<v Speaker 1>any of that, it's not gonna work. They eventually they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to you will book it will be fewer and

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<v Speaker 1>fewer of you. So I think that the lesson we

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<v Speaker 1>now learn is everything is political. I said that last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it again. Everything is political. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you are a person in business or in anything else

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to see the morality, the dignity, the sovereignty

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<v Speaker 1>of our communities be upheld in any way, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get political. You gotta get in the mud. Got because

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<v Speaker 1>we in the mud.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, if you do not have a seat at the table,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're on the menia and that's the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>But they'll say that their seat at the table is

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<v Speaker 1>that they are doing business I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but but I don't trying to tell the sea

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<v Speaker 3>that the table means that if you at the table,

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<v Speaker 3>then nobody's going to tell you that they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>exclude diversity, equity and inclusion when they understand that that's

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<v Speaker 3>the how you got here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I heard I heard somebody say today that that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how they got their contract and what they have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 4>We we're real confused. We seem to think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Diversity, equity and inclusion is something that started in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's that's not a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been going on for years. Reverend Jesse Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those pine in years that forced companies

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<v Speaker 1>to bring more black suppliers in, to bring more black

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<v Speaker 1>board members and others in. So when folks try to

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<v Speaker 1>say that they you know, oh, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that my thing. I don't know that I had anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with DEI or the summer of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>The summer of twenty twenty was a renewal, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was not the beginning. In fact, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back even further than that, we all have been

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<v Speaker 1>part of that in many different places because they wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>hiring us at all. So there was no merit system

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<v Speaker 1>that allowed you to be in to be in place

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<v Speaker 1>because they could know that you were. In fact, they

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<v Speaker 1>got black people and black women know what I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that had all the merit. We at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the scale, most educated, We got all the things

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<v Speaker 1>we are. We are brilliant, we're creative, we're organized, we

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<v Speaker 1>are all those things. We know how to go into

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<v Speaker 1>spaces and temper our emotional standing. Meanwhile, white women be

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<v Speaker 1>crying all day at the office. We can't even cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all white women, but some of them. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>even cry. So we've been able to do all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they will do is let you present something,

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<v Speaker 1>they will steal from you your intellectual property and go

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<v Speaker 1>sell it elsewhere. That's how much, that's how high we

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<v Speaker 1>are in a merit based system. If it was merit based,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have shit. They wouldn't have shit. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you don't know if DEI had anything to

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<v Speaker 1>do with how you got your contract or diversity equity inclusion,

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<v Speaker 1>know that that did not begin. This is my This

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<v Speaker 1>makes me so scared for us that we lack understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of our history so much that we don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>that this did not start in twenty twenty or even

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<v Speaker 1>let's see even lets let me go back to another time.

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<v Speaker 1>I started twenty was George Floyd Trayvon Martin was in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve. Right even before that. I'm talking about the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>even before that, before that, the seventies, even in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>This is work that has been done with people toiled.

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<v Speaker 1>They worked hard to get us to where we are now.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I gotta keep I gotta be quiet. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a guest coming that is gonna speak. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking for a long time. So for today, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have anything else to say. I was gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>y'all team I about this young lady that went on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet and said, oh, don't be coming back with

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<v Speaker 1>no Milano clothes. That's that, that ain't it. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to you need to be in a Montclair or she

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<v Speaker 1>might have said moose knuckle. And it's like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a young black girl who's telling people that Milana who

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<v Speaker 1>is passe and busted and this and that, but the

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<v Speaker 1>white man stuff, this is the problem. That's why y'all

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about boycott. Let me know when y'all ready.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to girlcott.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me let me know when y'all ready I've read,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get our guests. Yes, sir, when friends come through.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a friend today, long time knowing one another,

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<v Speaker 1>but becoming brother and sister as of lately, just coming together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, tragedy and we deal with so much of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and trauma can tabonds. And while we may have been

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<v Speaker 1>in many spaces together, I can say that we never

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<v Speaker 1>really had any like meaningful conversation until we was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do with this damn country? And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited today to have someone who I am

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<v Speaker 1>glad to be able to call friend and brother and

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<v Speaker 1>comrade to join us.

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<v Speaker 4>And you guys don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>Each other yet. But but you know, y'all ain't become

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<v Speaker 1>friends yet. Oh that's that's some straight bullshit, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, might be like I don't like them.

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<v Speaker 3>But your friends though, don't. We're not gonna you just

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<v Speaker 3>don't realizing your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't worry about you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But Maurice Mitchell, nationally recognized social movement strategist national director

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<v Speaker 1>of the Working Families Party and also one of the

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant minds behind the Movement for Black Lives. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would say one of the foremost voices on on social

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<v Speaker 1>justice in.

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<v Speaker 4>The nation is joining us in.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all. People don't be knowing people. We don't y'all don't

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<v Speaker 1>be knowing our people. That they put folks with two

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<v Speaker 1>ten million followers online and make them leaders. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I keep hearing people say we don't have any leaders,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet there are so many leaders, and Maurice is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely one of them. Born and raised in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct to Caribbean working parents correct, which means Working

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<v Speaker 1>Families Party. It all is ALIVEE.

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<v Speaker 4>Comes from home. Thank you so much for being with us.

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<v Speaker 3>So good to be truly, so explain to us, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the Working Family Party?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I'm sure both of y'all have heard. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I get it. The Republican Party. That's that's the party

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<v Speaker 5>of Trump, that's the party of the white nationalists. Cool.

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<v Speaker 5>But as a black person or as a working person,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Democratic Party is playing in my face.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Democratic Party is owned by the corporations

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<v Speaker 5>or they're taking my vote for granted, and we need

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<v Speaker 5>something else. I hear that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We need some difference. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you know, before I even tell people what I'm about,

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<v Speaker 5>when I say that I'm involved in politics or organizing,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll hear like, we need something else. We need another party.

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<v Speaker 5>The Working Families Party is building. That's something else from

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<v Speaker 5>the grassroots. And WFP started in New York at a

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<v Speaker 5>time when grassroots organizers and folks in labor unions felt

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<v Speaker 5>that the Democratic Party had gone astray and was listening

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<v Speaker 5>way too much to the interest of Wall Street and

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<v Speaker 5>not to the interest of Main Street or the interests

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<v Speaker 5>of the streets that we grew up in. And so

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<v Speaker 5>it started in New York and we've spread and we

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<v Speaker 5>now are in twenty plus states, and we're organizing on

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<v Speaker 5>the ground, and we're focused on governing. So we're not

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<v Speaker 5>just focused on getting people elected, because we want people

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<v Speaker 5>to have the experience of registering, voting, getting people elected,

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<v Speaker 5>and then recognizing that things change when they recruit people

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<v Speaker 5>from the grassroots to get elected. And I like to

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<v Speaker 5>bring up you know, you just mentioned that you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to do an event with Jumani Williams. A lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>York City, Yep, shout it out at the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Public Library.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. I'm would be at one of them because there's something.

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<v Speaker 5>There's something happening, even the eleven listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 5>This is your platform, so shout out your your book.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 5>So Jiubani, he was a grassroots organizer, an advocate for renters' rights,

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<v Speaker 5>and he decided to run for office. And the establishment,

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<v Speaker 5>the establishing even today doesn't doesn't appreciate that brother the

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<v Speaker 5>way they need to. But the establishment at that time

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<v Speaker 5>did not want him to run for office, the Democratic

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<v Speaker 5>Party establishment and certainly certainly the Republicans establishment. He ran

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<v Speaker 5>as a Working Families Party only candidate in Brooklyn for

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<v Speaker 5>city council. Anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really know what it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so Jumandi got his start as an independent Working

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<v Speaker 5>Families Party candidate. Tis James is another person. She started

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<v Speaker 5>in the same way in Brooklyn, a lawyer for the

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<v Speaker 5>people that the establishment couldn't figure out. And because she

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<v Speaker 5>was so independent and because she was so righteous, the

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<v Speaker 5>establishment in general, including the Democratic Party establishment, didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>what to do it and the Working Families Party recruited

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<v Speaker 5>her to run independently against the Democrats and Republicans. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's an example of what we do every single day.

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<v Speaker 5>We recruit everyday people. Sometimes they're they're educators like Jamal Bowman.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they're people's lawyers like Tis James. Sometimes their organizers

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<v Speaker 5>like Jimani Williams. Working people, working people, right, because we

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<v Speaker 5>believe that working people understand the solutions to the issues

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<v Speaker 5>that they're under way better than the who tends to

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<v Speaker 5>get into office. Like most congress people are millionaires that

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<v Speaker 5>are former lawyers, right, former corporate lawyers, right. And so

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<v Speaker 5>they tell you this lie that you need some sort

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<v Speaker 5>of expertise that you only get from.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to hire people to do that that know

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<v Speaker 1>some of those things, right.

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<v Speaker 5>But the expertise of knowing how to make ends me

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<v Speaker 5>understanding how the policies that are coming from you know,

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<v Speaker 5>coming from Congress or coming from state legislatures, how they

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<v Speaker 5>actually affect your lives. Like dealing with affordability meant imagine

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<v Speaker 5>a Democratic party that understood that people were really wrestling

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<v Speaker 5>with affordability and they were actually able to in a

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<v Speaker 5>compassionate way talk about how to help people get out

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<v Speaker 5>of the affordability crisis that people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Interrupted in this previous election, right, it probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>helped them tremendously.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, But in order to do that, you need actual

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<v Speaker 5>working people who have that experience, right, and so so

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<v Speaker 5>again we've been around for a while and as a result,

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<v Speaker 5>those people get into office, and then they don't just

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<v Speaker 5>sit in office not making a difference. I'll just give

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<v Speaker 5>an example that just happened over the past in New York.

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<v Speaker 5>So chay Osa, that is another person who is a

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<v Speaker 5>young elected official in Brooklyn, working families elected official, and

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<v Speaker 5>he passed this legislation with his colleagues in city council

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<v Speaker 5>that for people who are renting, they know whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not you go through a broker, you pay for a

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<v Speaker 5>broker fee. It's totally unfair. But now in New York,

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<v Speaker 5>because Chaos was able to pass that law, that's not

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<v Speaker 5>the case anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can go directly, yes, and do your business.

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<v Speaker 5>And you don't have to pay that right now, Why

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<v Speaker 5>was that unfair policy on the books because the lobby,

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<v Speaker 5>because the real estate lobby benefited from me, right, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And so what you have is way too many people

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<v Speaker 5>on the local level, including a lot of Democrats, who

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<v Speaker 5>are listening to these lobbyists, right, because they're making deals

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<v Speaker 5>with these lobbyists, and they're kind of governing with the lobbyists.

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<v Speaker 5>They're governing with the corporations instead of governing with the people.

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<v Speaker 5>The Working Families Party is designed as a third party

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<v Speaker 5>movement where we govern with the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, the interviews over.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in the presidential election, I ran in that

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<v Speaker 1>door so ready to vote, Like, first couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>of early voting, started going down Democrat, just giving voting

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<v Speaker 1>from my people. And when I got to the judges,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little stuck because I needed to understand them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I started thinking, I'm voting on the wrong line.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be on this line. So I

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<v Speaker 1>quick was like, excuse me, what do you do if

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<v Speaker 1>you messed up on you? And they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to void it and go through a process.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, yeah, I need a void. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>so that I could vote Work is Family Party.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And so people who are listening who live in

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<v Speaker 5>New York or Connecticut, right, they are able to vote

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<v Speaker 5>on the Working Families line and take advantage of something

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<v Speaker 5>we call fusion. And it was the law on the

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<v Speaker 5>books in every state. You know, way back when, and

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<v Speaker 5>the reason why it was outlawed in so many states

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<v Speaker 5>is because fusion was one of the things that allowed

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<v Speaker 5>everyday people to organize against the status quo hugean voting,

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<v Speaker 5>so you had parties outside of the Democratic Party and

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<v Speaker 5>the Republican Party able to bring together coalitions of people

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<v Speaker 5>on the grassroots level and vote as a block. Right now,

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<v Speaker 5>it's hard for us as black people to show that

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<v Speaker 5>we're voting as a block. We get lost in the

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<v Speaker 5>sauce because most of us ninety two percent of black

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<v Speaker 5>women voted for Democrats. Right 'st majority of black men

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<v Speaker 5>voted for Democrats for a lot of very smart and

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<v Speaker 5>strategic reasons, especially in this last election, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 5>to tell how much of us voted for Democrats. So

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 5>sometimes we get lost in the sauce. In New York

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 5>and in Connecticut, we know the exact number of Working

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 5>Families Party voters because we have our own ballot line.

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 5>So then we're able to immediately after the election go

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 5>to these elected officials from the local level all the

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 5>way up and we could say, these are the amount

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 5>of voters that voted for you, but they didn't vote

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 5>for you. On the Democratic Party line, they voted for

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 5>you as on the Working Families different values, and so

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 5>I could say, so our argument was vote for Kamala Harris,

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 5>but vote for around the Working Families Party because to

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 5>show because we know you're not voting for Kamala Harris

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 5>just because she's the Democrat, right, that you're voting for

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 5>the values of the work.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It should be for the working for the values that

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the Working Families Party holds.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Okay, and then and then we could go and

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 5>have that conversation. And listen, I know as a matter

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 5>of fact that the conversations I'm able to have with

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 5>politicians in Connecticut and in New York because we could

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 5>count those votes when it comes time to governing. That's

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 5>a different conversation.

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>That's how long did it take you to get to

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>this point? Because we have a world full of internet experts? Yeah, yes,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and they know they know everything.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 5>God bless them.

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>They know how to start a political party. They know

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do it all.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 5>God bless you will be fixed.

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Just because you know that's it. Yeah, well, how long

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>did it take to get to this point? And do

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys run white candidates? Also?

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, listen, we're a multi Racial Party. And so listen,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 5>all skin folk and kimfo right, and so are the

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 5>candidates that we run represent the multiracial working.

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>CLUI give us some white folks or other people so

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>people will know because they they already turning you off.

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 4>This interview has just ended.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>They are now saying this is what I'm talking multicultural,

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>multi racial.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 4>We don't want that anymore. We want black.

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>So talk about some of those other candidates that you

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>guys have.

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. Let me take for example, Recasar, who's a who's

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 5>a Latino candidate in Texas. Recorzar, who's also currently the

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 5>chair of the Progressive Caucus in Congress. He stands on business.

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 5>That's why we've endorsed him. So in Texas, not only

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 5>did we support Jasmine Crockett, who I'm sure a lot

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 5>of people know, we also supported Records are right. Not

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 5>only are we supporting UH candidates like I said, like Jimani,

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 5>we're we're support we support aoc R. We ran Cynthia

0:29:55.680 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Nixon against Governor CuMo. Right. Basic, basic, what we've learned,

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 5>right is that there is a politic that is about

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 5>the grassroots, about working people, about making sure that there's

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 5>more money in the pockets of everyday working people, especially

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 5>every day working black folks, and more power. And that politics,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 5>to me is the lens that we look at when

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 5>we endorse our candidates, and so those candidates are going

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 5>to come from different backgrounds, and I would just argue

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.479
<v Speaker 5>that it's not a zero sum game to talk about

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 5>a multi multi racial power and also to talk about

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 5>independent black power, right, because what happens is black people

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 5>unfortunately get lost in the sauce. So Black people get

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 5>lost in the sauce unfortunately sometimes in some of these coalitions,

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 5>which is why it's important before we join a coalition

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 5>as black people, we're clear about what our black agenda is.

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 5>So when we join that coalition, we're joining with the

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 5>clear black agenda that we're bringing into the picture, and

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 5>clear it's a black power. Is when we join coalitions

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 5>and we're unclear about what our agenda is, then we

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 5>often find ourselves getting lost in the sauce, which has

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 5>historically been our experience. Unfortunately, in a lot of democratic

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 5>party politics, they are hungry for black votes, but oftentimes

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to a black agenda, they are looking elsewhere, right.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 5>But that's to me on us how sharpers are organizing and.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Talk about how long it took.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 5>So, yes, so Working Families Party, Like I said before,

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 5>twenty six years, it took twenty six years for the

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 5>Working Families Party to build to this level. I've been

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 5>the national director of the Working Families Party for nearly

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 5>seven years, right, and.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>So you started in seven years ago. Sorry, I don't

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to cut you off, but I know

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>what we got to hit.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 4>So people can understand when.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You started seven years ago, what would you say are

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the successes or is the success It would be more

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>than one thing. I'm assuming from there into now, like

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>how much has the move moved?

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Sure, so in the seven years since I've been the

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 5>national director, the Working Families Party has grown exponentially, Right,

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 5>We've we have new chapters. We're in California where we

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 5>could count one hundred elected officials just in the state

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 5>of California on the local and state level that are

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 5>proudly Working Families Party. I just came from the Bay

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Area where they met and they were fired up. I

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 5>was with Barbara Lee with one of our candidates she

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 5>ran for Senate. Absolutely, yes, listen, and so that that chapter,

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 5>as well as some other chapters that we built recently

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 5>are the byproduct of heart organizing, right organizing. So I'm

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 5>talking hours and hours of conversations, of humble conversations, of back,

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 5>back and forth struggles about how are we going to

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 5>build this, How are we going to make sure that

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 5>our candidates are accountable? How are we going to make

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 5>sure that we actually have the resources to run. So

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 5>we're not just making a point, We're delivering for our

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 5>people real struggles, right.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 5>The other thing I would say is like over the

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 5>past years, look at the city of Philadelphia. So when

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 5>I started in the city of Philadelphia, the city of

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 5>Philadelphia was a two party city Democrats and Republicans. Today,

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 5>because of the hard organizing in the Working Families Party,

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 5>it is still a two party city with Democrats and

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 5>Working Families Party. So we the Working Families Party kicked

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 5>the two Republicans in city Council in Philadelphia off of

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 5>the city council and replaced them with Working Families Party

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 5>only city councilors. So Kendra Brooks is the minority leader

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 5>and Nicholas or Work is the Minority Whip of Philadelphia.

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 5>They both are independent voices that both are are black,

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 5>rest root voices. Kendra comes from nice Town. She is

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 5>a working class Black mom, and she governs. She governs

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>in the city of Philadelphia for the people that didn't

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 5>come through overnight. You know, that started through a long process.

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 5>You know, when we started, a lot of people didn't think,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 5>especially the establishment, didn't think that we would be able

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 5>to remove the Republicans and replace them of working families

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 5>party people. There were a lot of doubters, and there

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 5>continues to be a lot of doubters. But you know,

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 5>like I just you know, for anybody who's doubting, look

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 5>at the results. You know, I asked people to look

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 5>at our receipts, so one concrete result, not just getting

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 5>them elected, but in terms of how it actually affects.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>People's lives, right right, right.

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 5>So, like I said before, we have this affordability crisis, right,

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 5>we have. We have a crisis where so many we

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 5>were just talking about it, so many working class Black people,

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 5>in particular in cities everywhere are finding it harder and

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 5>harder to stay in their homes because of gentrifications, were

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 5>being pushed out of our communities. Historical black communities were

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 5>being pushed out of and so in Philly during the pandemic.

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 5>There was a problem because a lot of people were

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 5>facing evictions, right, and a lot of people couldn't draw

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 5>a salary right because people are sheltering in place. And

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 5>so Kendra Brooks, the Independent Working Families Party candidate, she

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 5>passed a temporary law protecting renters, and so renters couldn't

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 5>just get pushed out. They had to negotiate with their landlords. Right.

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 5>That kept a lot of working class people in their home,

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 5>and then recently we made it permanent. And so if

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 5>you look at the trend lines of there's a lot

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 5>of trend lines for evictions that are going in this direction,

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 5>but in Philadelphia, the trend line is moving like this

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 5>because of that policy. So it's important for people to

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 5>understand these aren't just we're not just making noise, We're

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 5>not just making a point. We're actually getting people in

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 5>positions where they could govern. And then when they're in

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 5>those positions, they are remembering where they came from. And

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 5>it's actually been a fitting everyday people. The thing is like,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 5>I've heard a lot of people say we need a

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 5>third party in this country. I couldn't agree more. But

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 5>I think it's important to look at the history of

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 5>third parties, you know, so that we can learn from

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 5>different each now, right, and I don't even I don't

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 5>even need to go too far, right, so we could

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 5>go further, but let's just look at what ross Perot did.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what we want to get into, right, Yeah,

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 5>because you know, I'm actually I'm really pleased that so

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 5>many people were talking about third parties, especially last cycle,

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 5>and you know a lot of people had our name

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 5>in their mouths, and I'm happy for that because it

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 5>allows me to cut to platforms like this and share

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 5>more because people are curious. So nineteen ninety two, Ross

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 5>Paro billionaire, right, he spent all the money in the world,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 5>and he started his own party, the Reform Party, and

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 5>he couldn't break twenty percent, right, So to me, and

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 5>the lesson that I learned from that is that if

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 5>your approach is all right, let's find a charismatic person

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 5>who could run a campaign and run a top down

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 5>campaign every four years and that will somehow break the

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 5>duopoly and break the back of the Democratic and Republican Party.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 5>If ross Pero, with all of his money, he was

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 5>able to just buy blocks of time during during primetime, right,

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 5>he was able to he couldn't break twenty percent. To me,

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 5>that strategy isn't viable, especially if you don't have billions of.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Dollars, right and people that they invest that yes, and

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>we're okay, right.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 3>So and I think so that's what that's what I think.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Right when I think about third party, I think that

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 3>the third party serves as an addition to whatever candidate.

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>So if we already have a two we already have

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 3>a two party system, the third party is going to

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 3>give leverage to the other party.

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, because we, like you say, the Democrats,

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 3>we understand pretty much that the Democratic Party has failed

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 3>us in a lot of ways. But there are a

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 3>lot of candidates and people from our communities that are

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 3>in it that need the support of the working family

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 3>party that you can run them as working family. But

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 3>they fall under the guys pretty much of them.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what happens to them when they if Jimiani was

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>he not a Democrat.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 5>Then initially he wasn't a Democrat. Once he got elected,

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 5>the Democratic Party embrace embrace them.

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 2>So it gives you that power, do you see?

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Is a balance is a voting block and there's a

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>voice that says, this is what the working parties, the

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>people in our community want, this is who we want,

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 3>and then the Democratic Party has no choice because what

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 3>happens is you drowned out their candidate pretty much, and

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 3>when they win, they have no choice but embrace yous.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 3>So what you start doing is you start and that's

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.479
<v Speaker 3>what I tell people. You have to retrain in the values.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 3>You don't throw the baby away with the bath word

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 3>right there. I just think when when I look at

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 3>the Democratic Party, we have hundreds of black people and

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them are good. When we look at

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Jasmine Crockett and all these people who are under the

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 3>guise of Democrats, we can't just throw all these people away.

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>What we have to do is reform.

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>There's definitely issues, there are definitely people that take advantage

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 3>of our votes and all that, but we have to say, okay,

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 3>this is our issue.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 2>This is our party now.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Like when when the working when you come and you say, look,

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 3>we have we have the power, right, we know what

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 3>the people want in our community and we know that

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 3>this two party system won't allow us to do anything outside.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know that you can't really ruin without us.

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Because when he talks about ross Paro. That's the problem.

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Ross Road just said, I'm just gonna run ato the

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 3>third party, and you don't have no backing from anything else.

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 3>So what happens is we have to use that as

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 3>our leverage.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 2>We have to use it.

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 3>And what happens is now when we start to take

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 3>the values of the Working Families Party and we put

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 3>it into the demo that who were supposed.

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>To be is in the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me let me, let me, let me, let me

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 5>break let me, let me break that down from my perspective,

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 5>because because listen, you're speaking facts, right. One of the

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 5>ways that I talk about the difference between the Republican

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Party and the Democratic Party, right is that, Okay, in

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 5>the Republican Party, one hundred percent of their elected officials

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 5>do not believe in the basic rights or the human

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 5>rights of Palestinians. One hundred percent of their elected officials

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 5>do not believe in the basic rights of black people.

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 5>One hundred percent of their elected officials either believe in

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 5>the billionaire agenda or are too fearful to do anything

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 5>about fighting the billionaire agenda. And that was evident when

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 5>you saw the number one, number two, or number three billionaire.

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Right cabinet member.

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 5>Inside the Democratic Party, you have a debate, right, So

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 5>the Democratic Party, there's a lot of people who I

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 5>disagree with vehemently. There's a lot of people in the

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 5>Democratic Party that align with corporate interests. And the Democratic

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 5>Party is also the party of Summerly and Latifa Simon

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 5>right and Jamal Bowman right, and Corey Bush right and

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Rashida Talib right, Williams and Jimani Williams right. So the

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 5>Working Families Party wants to represent the interest and support

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 5>and provide blocking and tackling for them so that they

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 5>could do the people's business. And long term, we're doing

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 5>the things to change the structures so that there could

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 5>actually be a viable multi party democracy. And so we're

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 5>doing both. We're engaged in politics today with many of

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 5>the Democrats who agree with us and many of the

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 5>people who agree with us, and we're building the independent

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 5>infrastructure for the third party multi party democracy of the future.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 5>And like I said, fusion voting exists in Connecticut and

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 5>New York, but we want fusion voting to exist in

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 5>many more states. And we're suing, you know, and we're

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 5>engaging in conversations. So fusion voting is the thing that

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 5>we talked about, where in the ballot you could actually

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 5>see Democratic Party is one line, Republican is another line,

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 5>and the Working Families Party is another line, and you

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 5>could vote on the Working Families Party line and it

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 5>doesn't dilute your vote because you could choose. I could

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 5>either vote for Kamala Harris on the Democratic Party line

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 5>or the Working Family Party line, and either vote counts

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 5>the same thing.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 3>But it just shows the value that the working Family

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 3>already brings, because it shows that people are voting for

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 3>the values of the working families.

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 5>That's right. Hundreds of thousands of people just in the

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 5>state of New York voted on the Working Families Party line,

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 5>and in many of those cases, the margin of the

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 5>margin of victory was so slim that if those voters

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 5>are not voted on the Working Families Party line, that

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 5>candidate wouldn't have won. So it really does have a

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 5>significant impact.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Okay, So okay, So I didn't want to spend

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time so much time talking about work

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>is Family Party, Working Families Party because you are that,

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 1>but you got other school. Yeah, absolutely, But I do

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.399
<v Speaker 1>have to ask you, how does that how do y'all

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>play in the sand box with the Democrats? Like, what

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>does the what does it look like? Because one of

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the biggest issues that I face when I tell people

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you vote on the Working Family I told my girlfriend

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and she she works at a bank and whatever, and

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I need my vote account and I'm

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>scared that you're telling me to do something that's going

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to mess me up.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 5>Blah blah blah.

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So how do y'all play in the sand box together?

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And I know you said fusion, but maybe I didn't

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>get it.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 5>So let me just let me just break it down.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 5>We cook what we have in the kitchen. Some places

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 5>like New York and Connecticut, we use fusion voting, and

0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 5>that allows for you to be able to vote on

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 5>the Working Families party line without spoiling, without wasting your vote.

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 5>It actually empowers you. Right, But we don't have fusion

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 5>voting everywhere, and so where we don't have fusion voting,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 5>and also in New York, we like to get busy

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 5>in primaries. We like to find those people that have

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 5>a d nex to their name for Democrat, but we

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 5>have decided that they are not accountable in any way.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 5>Right when it comes, you know, like they're not accountable.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 5>They got to this place either they came in listening

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 5>to the corporations, or they have gotten to this place

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 5>where they believe that they're entitled to their to their role,

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 5>that they're entitled to their seat, and they're not listening

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 5>to the people. They're not being responsive to the people.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 5>And we primary those those Democrats, we kick them out

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 5>of office. The reason Jamal Bowman was in office was

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 5>because somebody who had been there for years needed to go.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 5>He was he wasn't even living in his district. Right,

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 5>This is how entitled they get. They don't even live

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 5>in their district after a while, right, and so and

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 5>then a lot of them for them, this isn't about service,

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 5>this is this is a this is a business, you know,

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 5>And so they got to go right, and so the

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Working Families Party, we build coalitions from the grassroots with

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 5>unions like you know, like the unions that that that

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 5>my parents came out of, right and grassroots organizations, and

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 5>we build that coalition on the ground. We find candidates

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.919
<v Speaker 5>who we who we believe are actually accountable. We run them,

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 5>and we often are able to primary and win. People

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 5>have been there for years people have the backing of

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 5>all these corporations, because when real advocates run, you could

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 5>see that difference and see, like the the the reason

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 5>why somebody like Summerly, why Apak and the corporations have

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 5>to send millions and millions and millions and millions of

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 5>dollars against her, she still wins. Shows that that that

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 5>formula works as well as it does when you have

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 5>somebody who can't be bossed around, won't be bought, is

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 5>a true advocate people in the community know where to

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 5>be stand up. You add that with the resources and

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 5>support of grassroots organizations and then also the support of

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 5>Working Families Party that's been around for twenty six years

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 5>and other organizations, and then that grassroots coalition wins every time.

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.760
<v Speaker 5>And that's why we believe that over time we could

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 5>shift our politics closer to the people. But it requires

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 5>the people to believe that it's possible, which is why

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 5>being on this platform and having this conversation so important,

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 5>because people say, like, we need it's happening.

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 4>It's happening, It's happening in.

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>This It's a process.

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 3>And I tell people this all the time and they're like, oh,

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 3>we just the frustration that I have with our people

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 3>is we don't see and it's designed for us not

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 3>to see the strategy. Like when we talk about what

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 3>happened in black wall streets and how the burnt down

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and how they constantly disenfranchises right in this moment, that's

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 3>the strategy that's happening right now. We don't We're not

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 3>realizing it because we were just saying.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the Democrats, is they just term where everything's gone?

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 2>We need to get No.

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 3>What happened is they've watched black people a man so

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 3>much power with the wealth within this party. Like when

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I went to the Democratic National Convention, it looked like

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 3>it was just a black reunion.

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 3>So when you start to see that, they say, Okay,

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 3>we have to disenfranchise. We have to make it see

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 3>dismantle it. We have to completely make it seem like

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 3>woke is the worst thing in the world. You say,

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 3>black lives matters, everything that we fought for. They have

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 3>to they have stained it, right because they've seen us

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 3>gaining the power.

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I want to I want to drill down

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 5>here the reason why when one of the reasons why

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 5>we endorse Kamala Harris is our focus on governing right,

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 5>And I want to explain if we were able to

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 5>in this last selection at a democratic president, get a

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Democratic Congress with a Democratic House, why is that so

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 5>important to us? So that summerly, Jasmine Crockett, you know,

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 5>many of the people we talked about, Latifa Simon could

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 5>be in a position to govern right right. So if

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 5>it's just about personalities, it's hard to really understand the

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 5>value and it's like, oh, I don't like Kamala or

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 5>I heard this, or it's about putting our people in

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 5>a position to govern for our people. And in the

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Democratic Party, we've been able to organize a cadre of

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 5>independent black voices that stand on business and best believe

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 5>the corporations. The lobbyists were aware of that, and when

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.879
<v Speaker 5>they were trying to shut us down and they were

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 5>trying to drown us with misinformation and disinformation, unfortunately recruit

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 5>some folks in our community, right, it was about that.

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 5>That's what it was about. They understood what was at

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 5>risk for their corporate agenda if we put people like

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Latifa Simon in a position to govern in the House,

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.239
<v Speaker 5>right like they actually understood that, which is why it

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 5>was so important to confuse some people. Luckily most people

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 5>in our community didn't get it twisted. But the thing

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 5>that I'm always thinking about when it comes to that

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 5>misinformation and disinformation is not, oh, that's going to lead

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 5>to millions of black folks voting for Trump. If they

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 5>confuse enough of us, it might mean enough of us

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 5>are unclear how to vote, and therefore enough of us

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.479
<v Speaker 5>are not going to vote right. And to me, that's

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 5>my greatest fear. And I think when you look, you know,

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 5>we're still we're still breaking down what happened in that election.

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:53.399
<v Speaker 5>But millions of people who we know agree with our

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 5>values didn't turn up right. And I have to imagine

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 5>being confused by all that misinformation led to some percentage

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 5>of our folks.

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Uncle. Definitely. Yeah, I've had conversations with people that I

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 2>had to just.

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Unwind just the misinformation and say, well, where did you

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 3>get this information? Well they said who? They said, like,

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 3>here's the facts, and oh, well I didn't know that.

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's like they were constantly being fed just lies

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 3>and lies and just missing and it's like today somebody

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:26.959
<v Speaker 3>just came on my page told my commas not black

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 3>and all this.

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just like how do how do we keep having

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 2>these comments?

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's the same thing, in my judgment, that's the

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>same problem we have whenever we talk about boycotts.

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I was saying to you off air that one of

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the problems that I see today is there's so many

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>different people talking. Everybody has a voice, everybody is an expert,

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 1>as I said, and that is in and of itself misinformation,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>not even because what they're saying is not true, but

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it's that some of these folks who are talking about

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>what to do do not know what it takes to

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>actually do it. And so you might not be able

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to say, well, we don't need we don't need Kroger.

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>But when Kroger is the only place that people have

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to go eat, you can't just be like, we don't

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>need Kroger. Especially some of us who are sitting in

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>very privileged places. We have to be able to say

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>we don't need Kroger because on Wednesdays we're going to

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>be delivering boxes of food, which is what we did

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. Right for months, we were feeding people so

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't have to because Kroger was criminalizing them,

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>assuming that anybody. First of all, they closed for a while.

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>As you know, it was protest going on til Kroger

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>was closed and it was the only supermarket in the

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 1>West end of Louisville, Kentucky. And so we said, okay,

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>well we're going to bring food boxes out with you know,

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>roots and vegetables and things. Now, of course, there was

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>some people was like, what I'm gonna do with that

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>egg plant? I don't eat egg plant. But we weren't

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>just feeding black people. It's other people who live in

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that area. So we might be able to do college greens,

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>but then what about you know, other families that needed

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>other things.

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 4>So that's just a little antidote.

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, we tried to say, okay, so Kroger's closed,

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't want that to be the focus. So let's

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>figure out how we bring people what they need so

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>they're not dependent on or feeling like, get this protest

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>shit out of here because y'all over here protesting, and meanwhile.

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 4>They won't open our supermarket. So's there there is.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>So there's so many needs of our people, and when

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>they're online and everybody is saying and doing and this

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and that, it makes people feel like I just can't

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I don't know. I don't even

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 1>want to vote. Y'all telling us when we go down there,

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they might beat us up, telling us that we might

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>not have our names on the Liz, you're telling us

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>don't vote on Democratic tickets. You're telling us I vote

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>don't count. Like it's so many messages coming at once.

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what we're supposed to do.

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Don't worry about it, and on whose platform? Sucker birth right?

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm all right, right, right, right, but yeah, but they

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>got hoteps in your family too, now that know a

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of things, and they be smart. I'm not. You know,

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not against it because sometimes brothers be checking me

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit on things, and I be like, okay,

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I see you, bro. But sometimes, you know, I listen

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to some of the things that they say, and I'm like,

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 4>Doing this for thirty years.

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know what some of the challenges are. Because

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 1>those of us who are willing to make the sacrifice

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the shifts to the working family. Yes, and we have

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to grow the base.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 5>That's correct.

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>That's first before we can say forget this party or

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that thing or this set spoken like a true organizer, right,

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>got to grow the base and.

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 5>There's ways that if you aren't listening to the base,

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 5>even if what you're saying is factually correct, even if

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:11.239
<v Speaker 5>the policies are correct, even if you're right, because you

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 5>didn't listen to the base, you now have a wedge

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:17.280
<v Speaker 5>between you and the base, absolutely right. So your people

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 5>are looking at you like what do you because you

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 5>weren't humble enough and you weren't rigorous enough in that

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 5>organizing to always listen to the base to hear like

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 5>all right, well listen like, yes, yes, a boycott would

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:38.399
<v Speaker 5>be great as a tactic, but in order for us

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 5>to earn the ability to boycott, we need to make

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 5>sure that our people are fed, that our people feel

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 5>a connection to the like when people people you know,

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 5>go back in history, people talk about the Montgomery bus boycott,

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:55.879
<v Speaker 5>right that they organize the Planta to get there. It

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a snap decision because they needed to sustain the boycott.

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:04.280
<v Speaker 5>That caused a significant amount of duress on the people

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 5>because now you got to walk to work, right now,

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 5>you gotta you know, yeah, and you know, they have

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:13.520
<v Speaker 5>to organize all types of different arrangements to make sure

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 5>that people got to where they need to go to right.

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 5>That is a logistical and organizing sort of commitment to

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.760
<v Speaker 5>your people. So you have to consider those things before

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.200
<v Speaker 5>you say let's do this, let's do that, and so

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 5>you earn the right to be able to do attack.

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got to earn also every day we

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean Coreta Scott King said that that freedom is

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>not given. It's not a given. Every generation has to

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>earn it. And in order to earn it, you have

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to show the people that you're trustworthy and stable enough

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 1>for them to follow what you are offering them.

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:54.280
<v Speaker 4>I got to ask you this question.

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Because you gotta go. Okay, elections is coming up.

0:55:58.239 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Are you optimistic?

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>What do we need to do?

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 5>Okay, listen, So I considering this is just the second

0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:11.880
<v Speaker 5>week of the Trump administration, right, I actually have a

0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.880
<v Speaker 5>lot of optimism, and I'll explain why. I don't know

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 5>if folks followed the Maga civil war that took place

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 5>even before they got into office, where Elon Musk and

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 5>some of the tech Maga people were arguing with the

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 5>traditional Maga people. And then the other thing I noted

0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 5>is that Trump was talking a lot about groceries, and

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 5>a lot about affordability, a lot about eggs and eggs.

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:43.280
<v Speaker 5>If you notice he has abruptly pivoted. He's not talking

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 5>about that anymore. Right, And the eggs, oh yeah, oh yeah,

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 5>absolutely yeah, the price of eggs are going up. Right,

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 5>he has pivoted already. Right, And to me, and we

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 5>were saying this, we were we were saying this in

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 5>real time. We've been saying this, right, that this is

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 5>a grift, that he is a billionaire that is in

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.880
<v Speaker 5>league with other billionaires. He is not a true populace.

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 5>He's not concerned about the price of eggs or making

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 5>things affordable for your family.

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:14.800
<v Speaker 5>Not everybody got that message. Some people voted for Trump,

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 5>not because they're maga. Some people voted even some people

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 5>of color, some black folks voted for Trump based on

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 5>quote unquote the economy.

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 5>But this is a mask off moment. So people saw

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 5>him next to the richest people on the planet. And

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 5>he has some tax cuts he has to pay for.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 5>He has a bunch of policies he has to pay for.

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Where's he going to pay for those things. He's going

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 5>to be looking at Medicaid, He's going to be looking

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 5>at SNAP, He's going to be looking at programs that

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 5>allow everyday people to survive. Elon Musk even said that.

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 5>He said it's going to be painful, it's going to

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 5>be harder.

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 1>He said he might have to put everybody on welfare

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so Elon is saying the quiet part out loud because.

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 2>You don't care.

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 3>This is emboldened white privilege. This is a billionaire white

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 3>privilege that I can say what I want. And it's

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:11.919
<v Speaker 3>just when you watch that, it confuses me how people

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 3>see something else.

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 5>It's like it's a part time South Africa white privilege.

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 5>What's that? And so here's the.

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>For him, this is his natural habitats coming home, yes,

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>coming yes, Yes. And the thing is sorry, Mama made

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 1>it like we did it in America. Yes, when I

0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>told you I was leaving here to go to America,

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I promised you that one day we would see what

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they stopped us kind.

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Of from doing over here. Begin again.

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 5>That's right over there, that's right, that's right, that's right,

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 5>it's the prodigal son, right and so and so here's

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 5>something deep. It's deep. You think about the psychology of

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 5>these people. And the point I'm making is what gives

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 5>me hope is number one people have eyes and ears.

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 5>Our people aren't stupid. People are not stupid. And many

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 5>of the people, I mean, I'm even seeing it in

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 5>the discourse online, including many of our folks who might

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 5>have thought, well, we're voting for the anti establishment. You

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 5>can get more establishment than all the billionaires in the

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 5>world lining up.

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 2>With you know.

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 5>So it's clear. And so I have a lot of

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 5>hope for the organizing that we could do over the

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 5>next two years to flip because they have a very

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 5>very slim majority.

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.160
<v Speaker 1>In the House, super slim the day.

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 5>And the other thing to note is that they aren't

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 5>very disciplined. They tend not to be disciplined when it

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 5>comes time to govern, right, So whether or not they're

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 5>going to be able to make those slim majorities actually

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 5>matter is a different question because they have so many Look,

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 5>they have the ultra ultra ultra Maga wing inside inside

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 5>Congress right, and they're blowing things up left and right right,

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:02.920
<v Speaker 5>and so whether or not they're going to be able

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.240
<v Speaker 5>to make peace with them in order to govern as

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 5>a different story. But the thing is whether whether or

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:12.160
<v Speaker 5>not that's true. The people are going to learn quickly quickly,

1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 5>they're going to learn quickly that they are governing by

1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 5>for and with billionaires. It's a true mask off moment.

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:21.680
<v Speaker 5>And now it's the job for organizers and also the

1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 5>job for people who have platforms, and thank god we

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:28.200
<v Speaker 5>have this platform right to tell the truth about it, right,

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 5>So over the next two years, the people could get information.

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 5>So I have a lot of confidence that we'll be

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:37.600
<v Speaker 5>able to flip Congress in these two years. The other

1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:40.280
<v Speaker 5>thing I want to say is that there are so

1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 5>many opportunities. So people who are watching and they might

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 5>want to know, well, what can I do about it?

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:50.520
<v Speaker 5>I've seen what's transpired. I'm concerned about these anti DEI

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:57.200
<v Speaker 5>policies and I know the words diversity, equity and inclusion

1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 5>policies right, because that's what it is, right, and I

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:04.760
<v Speaker 5>understand how my impact, my family or my impact. The

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 5>thing that we need to do is again is to

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 5>organize on the local level, right, And there's opportunity. Presidents

1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:14.440
<v Speaker 5>aren't kings, at least today, they aren't right, right, And

1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 5>as long as they're not kings, and as long as

1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:20.720
<v Speaker 5>power exists on multiple levels in this country, what's going

1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:23.880
<v Speaker 5>on in your school board, right, what's going on in

1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:27.600
<v Speaker 5>your city? And this is why I say that I

1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:31.880
<v Speaker 5>want to go back to the Ross Pero strategy. Every

1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:34.320
<v Speaker 5>four years, Let's let's find somebody to run for president.

1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Then you're not focused on school board, right, You're not

1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:40.640
<v Speaker 5>focused on city council. You're not focused on what's happening

1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:44.480
<v Speaker 5>in your county district attorney. That's where so much of

1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:47.280
<v Speaker 5>the governing happens. In fact, most of the things that

1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:50.960
<v Speaker 5>we're concerned with, like well, the quality of education for

1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:57.120
<v Speaker 5>my children, or whether or not it is still affordable

1:01:57.200 --> 1:02:01.520
<v Speaker 5>in the city that's zoning, zoning is city council, right,

1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:05.120
<v Speaker 5>All of those things happen on the local level. And

1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:07.920
<v Speaker 5>so many of those things they know that you know,

1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:09.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure people are watching, are.

1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:12.520
<v Speaker 4>Busy, are hustling and tired of.

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:17.240
<v Speaker 5>It and tired right, and and aren't close political observers,

1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:20.640
<v Speaker 5>and are are locked in like the people here, right,

1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:24.960
<v Speaker 5>which is why we have organizations. Right. Organizations exist so

1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:27.720
<v Speaker 5>that with the time that you do have, we can

1:02:27.800 --> 1:02:30.520
<v Speaker 5>make sure that that time is the most effective. And

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:33.840
<v Speaker 5>there's organizations like the Working Families Party that are on

1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:37.959
<v Speaker 5>the local level. And we're recruiting people for school board,

1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:41.080
<v Speaker 5>for city council, for county, so that they could run

1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:43.040
<v Speaker 5>and win. And so this year they say it's an

1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:45.720
<v Speaker 5>off year, but so many of those elections are happening

1:02:45.760 --> 1:02:49.080
<v Speaker 5>this year, and then next year the entire House of

1:02:49.120 --> 1:02:51.640
<v Speaker 5>Representatives is up for reelections.

1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:54.919
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna we're gonna work together. Absolutely, we're gonna

1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:55.920
<v Speaker 1>be together.

1:02:57.080 --> 1:02:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Where do you get the motivation? Like, what would your

1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.200
<v Speaker 3>childhood to do this work? Where are you from?

1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:05.120
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I'm from not too far from here, from

1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:08.480
<v Speaker 5>a working class suburb of New York called Long Beach.

1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.160
<v Speaker 5>I grew up in Long Beach, I was born. I

1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:14.400
<v Speaker 5>was born in the late seventies, nineteen seventy nine, and

1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:17.880
<v Speaker 5>my parents are working class people who came from the Caribbean.

1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:21.640
<v Speaker 5>My grandmother came here as a domestic worker and she worked.

1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:26.640
<v Speaker 5>She left like ten children in Trinidad and worked in

1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:30.400
<v Speaker 5>the houses of other people Monday through Friday on Long

1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Island and during the weekend, she didn't have a home.

1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:39.720
<v Speaker 5>And the reason we actually got our bearings in that community.

1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:43.840
<v Speaker 5>That's an example of black solidarity. Actually, I actually spoke

1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:46.800
<v Speaker 5>in Long Beach at the m OK event in Long

1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:51.480
<v Speaker 5>Beach this past at this past MKDA and I brought

1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:56.560
<v Speaker 5>up this story my grandmother. Again, she's an immigrant from

1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:59.800
<v Speaker 5>this country, knew this country, working Monday through Friday in

1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:02.000
<v Speaker 5>the homes of white folks, taking care of their children,

1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:04.440
<v Speaker 5>taking care of their families, away from all of her

1:04:04.520 --> 1:04:08.040
<v Speaker 5>children during the weekend. Sometimes she would just sit in

1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:10.200
<v Speaker 5>the park in Long Beach. Right, there's a park in

1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Long Beach in the center of town. And a woman

1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:20.600
<v Speaker 5>who is a church elder, a black woman, noticed her.

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<v Speaker 5>Could have passed her by, but noticed her, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 5>what are you doing sitting there? And my grandmother explained, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I work in these people's home Monday through Friday. During

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<v Speaker 5>the weekend. This is often where I'll sit and you

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<v Speaker 5>catch a break and she's like, you know, people, you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have any places to stay. And that day she

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<v Speaker 5>was like, you staying with me, right, you staying with me.

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<v Speaker 5>And because of that, that led to a whole chain

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<v Speaker 5>of events that led to me being here. Wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And so what I took from that and my experience

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<v Speaker 5>of growing up with my family, we had a very

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<v Speaker 5>big family, a lot of aunties and uncles, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of cousins. You know, you're hip hop artist, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I grew my cousin God rest his whole MF doom

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<v Speaker 5>you know, yeah, shout out. We all grew up together

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<v Speaker 5>in this community, and we supported one another, and if

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<v Speaker 5>there were people who had a need, just like that

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<v Speaker 5>church elder looked out for my grandmother, we made sure

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<v Speaker 5>that they had a place to stay. If there were

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<v Speaker 5>people who needed work, oftentimes my grandmother would be like,

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<v Speaker 5>stay here, I'll find work for you, right. And so

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up with the family that you know, they

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know they were organizers, but they were organizers, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And so it was normal and it is normal for

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<v Speaker 5>me to understand that family is not just the people

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<v Speaker 5>whose blood you might share. It is the family that

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<v Speaker 5>you creates here and now. And that's how Black people,

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<v Speaker 5>in whatever condition we've ever been in, whenever we've been

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<v Speaker 5>able to persevere, it's been because of the community that

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<v Speaker 5>we build. And so when I do this work, it's

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<v Speaker 5>in honor of my grandmother, and it's in honor of

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<v Speaker 5>the people that chose to lean in and build community

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<v Speaker 5>so I could be where I'm at. And I try

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<v Speaker 5>to apply that in politics. So I don't look at

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<v Speaker 5>politics as a dirty word, right, because when I think

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<v Speaker 5>about politics, I think about democracy. Democracy is just the

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<v Speaker 5>things we do together, right, And so how can we

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<v Speaker 5>flip it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>They want you to think democracy is dirty, so they

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<v Speaker 5>could have all this boils, right, But democracy is just

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<v Speaker 5>what we do together and how we share. In the

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<v Speaker 5>richest country in the history of countries, how can we

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<v Speaker 5>share all of this so that we could be more whole?

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<v Speaker 5>And when I see them try to do the divide

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<v Speaker 5>and conquer, then I know what it is. It's like,

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<v Speaker 5>look immigration, right, they want black folks to fight for

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<v Speaker 5>crumbs to decide who's going to be the permanent underclass.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it going to be black folks or is it

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<v Speaker 5>going to be immigrants. Well, let's stop finding for crumbs

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<v Speaker 5>and let's come together as black folks and have the

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<v Speaker 5>entire pie. Right. Or what if we came together and

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<v Speaker 5>started an alliance, black and brown alliance and we start

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<v Speaker 5>we have the entire bakery. Right. So, in the richest

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<v Speaker 5>country in the history of countries, how can I sit

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<v Speaker 5>here and fix my face in protest of another working

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<v Speaker 5>person that maybe they don't share my heritage, but they're

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<v Speaker 5>just trying to struggle like me, A mother, a mother

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<v Speaker 5>who's a migrant from from Venezuela. Right, who's trying to

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<v Speaker 5>make ends meet?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>How do I fix my face having a problem with

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<v Speaker 5>her when my problem is with the billionaires and the corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you more mad at miss Mary, then you are

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<v Speaker 1>mister Elon and mister so and so and mister whoever.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on and just pick another divide And that's just

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<v Speaker 5>one thing. They want us to be more mad at

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that transgender people are trying to live their

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<v Speaker 5>lives where they're trying to live their lives, Like why

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<v Speaker 5>am I Why am I here out here mad at

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<v Speaker 5>transgender people? How is me being mad at transgender people

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<v Speaker 5>or my discomfort with their lives? How does that make

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<v Speaker 5>my life better?

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<v Speaker 1>We just talked about this conversation we have to You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill us because I was about to say what

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot answer? How would birthright citizenship have a ending?

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<v Speaker 1>Or not having birthright citizenship? How would that have impacted

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<v Speaker 1>your family? You know so? But anyway you can't answer.

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<v Speaker 5>It's part to part.

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<v Speaker 1>Director of the working families.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, we could go and you could.

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<v Speaker 2>They divided.

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<v Speaker 3>They divide us against the teelers, they call them.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I guess they get turn it all.

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<v Speaker 2>To separate us. There's so many different.

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<v Speaker 5>God bless Malcolm X. And you know his mom, his

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<v Speaker 5>mom from Grenada. That's so god bless Malcolm. I'm so

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<v Speaker 5>happy that his mom immigrated from Grenada so that we

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<v Speaker 5>can have a Malcolm X exact but we can have

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<v Speaker 5>that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being here. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>By shout out to Maurice mitchell Man.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an excellent interview.

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<v Speaker 4>So much more to discuss, yes, so much more to.

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<v Speaker 2>Unpack that we could. We could have been here for

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<v Speaker 2>a whole nother hour.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. There's a lot of things that because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask him about this whole you know, Senator

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<v Speaker 1>entering a bill that would allow Trump to have a

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<v Speaker 1>third term.

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<v Speaker 4>It just with so many.

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<v Speaker 3>Things I don't get it today is I am so

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<v Speaker 3>confused at the ignorance of people, right because we had

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<v Speaker 3>an election.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people voted for Trump, people voted.

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<v Speaker 3>For Kamala, and the election is over, and there are

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<v Speaker 3>people who actually are mad because now that the election

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<v Speaker 3>is over. Those of us who understand the political process,

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<v Speaker 3>understand civics and engagement, understand how laws are made, to

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<v Speaker 3>understand how advocating for things work, are still talking about

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on in America. We're talking about the president

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<v Speaker 3>who was elected president of America. We're talking about policies

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<v Speaker 3>that he's putting into activation, and they're saying, why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you just go away now because the election is over.

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<v Speaker 3>You lost, just shut up, And that's the dumbest shit

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever heard. We voted because we wanted America to

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<v Speaker 3>look a certain way, So all right, we didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>the candidate that we wanted. But this president is the

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<v Speaker 3>president of the United States and he's actively signed executive

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<v Speaker 3>orders that is affecting our life within seven days.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're supposed to just go sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>See, this is why I don't understand half these people

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<v Speaker 3>that I know that they don't get it. This shit

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<v Speaker 3>ain't no basketball game where you're a Nick fan and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a Lebron fan and after the game we shake hand,

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<v Speaker 3>we just go and we're just supposed to just be

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<v Speaker 3>a sore loser or just shut up. No, this is

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<v Speaker 3>real life. This is real life shit that's happening. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>these people affecting our lives. So you thinking that now

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump is elected president because I voted for comment.

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<v Speaker 2>And she didn't win, that now I'm supposed to shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get even louder because I know he's activating

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<v Speaker 3>policies that's gonna affect my life trying to every day.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to get louder. I'm gonna be on

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<v Speaker 3>the front line. I'm you gonna see me way more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do so much shit now because I know

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<v Speaker 3>that he's trying to disenfranchise my people and and do

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<v Speaker 3>got people scared to death. You got people on the

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<v Speaker 3>internet crying. You got migrants and immigrants. You got people

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<v Speaker 3>who are not even they just are from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Hispanic descent and seeing their people getting sh Latino.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been being educated.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got people from Latino descent that are just

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<v Speaker 3>being crying online. You got black people. That's a black

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<v Speaker 3>lady he was saying that they shipped her family off.

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<v Speaker 3>That was from the Caribbean, and that was from different

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<v Speaker 3>parts of Haitia whatever that were being shipped out. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not just affecting them. So this shit is really going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And y'all think that we're supposed to be quiet now

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<v Speaker 3>because he won an election. Hell no, when he won

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<v Speaker 3>the first election, I wasn't quiet, and I was telling

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<v Speaker 3>you that he was a threat to democracy, that he

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<v Speaker 3>was a threat to black people. And now that y'all

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<v Speaker 3>see it, it's real crazy to me, right, because it

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<v Speaker 3>was so many blacks for Trump that was very loud

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<v Speaker 3>that I haven't seen lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the last week, I haven't heard them say anything.

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<v Speaker 3>The most thing they're gonna talk about is, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he said it's only two genders. That's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I'm worried about. So you sold out of democracy.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw a lot of people down the line because

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<v Speaker 3>you needed him to tell you that it was only

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<v Speaker 3>two genders. And you think because Trump says only two genders,

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<v Speaker 3>that the people that identify as another agenda don't identify

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<v Speaker 3>no more. So they just they just disappear off the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want them, as we were saying early, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want these people to get to have resources.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the bottom line is you're not gonna stop

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<v Speaker 3>nobody from being who they is because you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>them to be you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you.

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<v Speaker 3>Internalize that shit so much that you you said, fuck it,

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<v Speaker 3>they can have civil rights, they can have all the

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<v Speaker 3>shit that our incestors died and for we we'll just

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<v Speaker 3>start from the beginning. As long as they ain't saying

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a transgender we don't want we just don't

1:13:35.720 --> 1:13:38.400
<v Speaker 3>want to hear. But and that ain't even affecting your

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<v Speaker 3>life every day. So you thought that was enough to say,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck all the shit that black people fought for for years,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you think it's enough for me to be quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm gonna just be quiet because Trump is the

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<v Speaker 3>president now and common laws, so now we're just supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to go go just hide under the stairs and just

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<v Speaker 3>say nothing. This this is what these people say. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna cry. You're gonna keep knowing. I'm not crying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm mistake truth to power. Every day I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 3>out bullshit. But I'm not crying though, because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know already to crying. Shit is over at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to roll up your sleeves. You gotta put

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<v Speaker 3>your heart boots on, you gotta put your hard hat on.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta get on this front line because this ship

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<v Speaker 2>is real.

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<v Speaker 3>And the same people that want me to shut up

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be the same people that say, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 3>tell him, tell him again, tell the truth, because y'all

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<v Speaker 3>gonna y'all gonna fuck y'all done fucked around, and y'all

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<v Speaker 3>about to find out. But it's cool because we was

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<v Speaker 3>already prepared for this. We we was mentally prepared. It

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<v Speaker 3>took me a minute because I understood, but this man

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<v Speaker 3>did the ship that I thought he was gonna take

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<v Speaker 3>in a couple of months in seven days.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were in for some.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, but he didn't do that. Okay, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure because it's I don't want to diminish it,

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<v Speaker 1>because what you're saying is powerful and true that he

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<v Speaker 1>is doing things and the culture is shifting. So because

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting rid of DEI you see corporations and others,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, because he's getting rid of diversity, equity and

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<v Speaker 1>inclusion in federal spaces, which is the only thing he

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<v Speaker 1>can control. But the culture will shift in his direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to diministrate, but I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that things like birthright, citizenship and other areas that he's

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<v Speaker 1>working on, there are in fact levels to how it

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<v Speaker 1>has to happen. Now because he has control of the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, the Senate, and Congress, will some of those

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<v Speaker 1>things happen, absolutely, But we already saw a federal judge

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<v Speaker 1>block birthright citizenship, so or trying to end birthright citizenship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's been blocked by a federal judge. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is attempting to do And I just think that's

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<v Speaker 1>very important because I don't want people to think that

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<v Speaker 1>in seven days he was able to do everything. But

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<v Speaker 1>they definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>Diffor any people.

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<v Speaker 1>They deported the wrong person or the wrong two people

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. And you see what happened in Newark,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. So there's a lot of terrible things happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people who are gonna say, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention because I ain't you know, the immigrants. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna I'm not gonna get myself all upset about

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<v Speaker 1>that because what they didn't vote, and this didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and excuse me, and this didn't happen and whatever, And

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<v Speaker 1>we could try to do that for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>we want. But I think that my point from earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm just circling back to it that white supremacist,

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<v Speaker 1>white nationalists, whatever one you want to call them, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't just dislike one group of people. They might not

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<v Speaker 1>be as loud about their disdain for a particular group

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<v Speaker 1>of people, but they don't like us all and they

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<v Speaker 1>are watching and saying, Okay, we don't got to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about it too much because they still arguing.

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<v Speaker 3>Over The thing for me is not that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like me because you don't have to like them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just saying that's where but that's where their

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<v Speaker 1>motivation comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not even.

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<v Speaker 3>Their motivation comes from the fact that they want to

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<v Speaker 3>impose their will right, they want control. They don't like

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<v Speaker 3>they don't like anyone that's not them. So the reality

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<v Speaker 3>is when you're able to utilize your power in the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that you don't like me to negatively impact me, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if they like me.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom line is I don't I could care less.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. But I'm saying when I say don't

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<v Speaker 1>like me, that's very like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that we all in the same boat with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not about like, like, you're my friend. It

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<v Speaker 1>means we're they target all of us. They are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at all of us with a level of disdain that

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<v Speaker 1>allows them to try to do the things that they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make sense, So that's that for.

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<v Speaker 3>That, that's that on That brings us to the end

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<v Speaker 3>of another episode of TMI. Shout out to our brother

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<v Speaker 3>Maurice Mitchell who came and have some gems on us.

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<v Speaker 3>We definitely got to have more Rechack on the show

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<v Speaker 3>because he knows a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, he's very very knowledgeable, very very knowledgeable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna always be right, tamik It. The Maveri's

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<v Speaker 3>and I canna always be wrong, but we will both

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<v Speaker 3>always and I mean always be authentic PA.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we own it.