1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I do not know how 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: wealthy educated socialite women get suckered into a sex cult, 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean a sex cult that's bizarre, where young girls 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: are raped, forced into orgies, even branded, yes, branded like cattle. 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: In the last hours, a bombshell development in the case 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: against Keith Ranieri, the founder of Nexium sex cult. I'm 7 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 8 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: with us. Keith Renier, and let me tell you he's 9 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: not much to look at. I do not know how 10 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: these women got sucked into his craziness to become part 11 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: of a bona fidei sex cult, but they did, and 12 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: this guy was the mastermind. In the last days, this guy, 13 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Keith Renier, has been declared guilty on all counts including racketeering, 14 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: wire fraud, conspiracy, forced labor conspiracy, and sex trafficking, now 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: facing life behind bars after a jury arrives at a 16 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: unanimous verdict after just four hours of deliberation. This after 17 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: six weeks of testimony in the case, during which multiple 18 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: women describing lured into the sex slavey group to recount 19 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: their experience as the jurars men and women were shocked. 20 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: Fornier it actually issued an order for these women to 21 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: be branded with his initials in an extremely painful process. 22 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Taking a hot iron, burning 23 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: it until it's read, and then putting it on human flesh. 24 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: He described it in one recording as a sacrificial whatever. 25 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: That's what he said. Let me tell you something, A 26 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of people are going to be on the front 27 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: row when he gets sentence September twenty five. Of course 28 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: he insists he's innocent, but all these women come forward 29 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: to describe what he did to them. Alexis Terreschuk joining 30 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: me from Radar Online dot Com investigative reporter. Alexis it's 31 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: a little hard for me to believe this. Start at 32 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: the beginning, Alexus Terrestrict. The police are saying is that 33 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: they spent years recruiting women around the country, around the 34 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: world to join what was supposed to be a female 35 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: empowerment club, you know, kind of like a yoga class extraordinaire, 36 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: and you would go and this man, Keith is so charismatic. 37 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: You want to be a part of this thing that 38 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: gives women power. Instead, they were turned into sex slaves 39 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: who were branded branded literally with a hot poker on 40 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: their bodies to become a member of this cult. And 41 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: there's not a better word for it. It's not a 42 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: women's group, it's not a tennis club. It is a cult. 43 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Because these women were having to give when they joined 44 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: and professed their faith to this cult. They were having 45 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: they were blackmail. They had to give things like naked 46 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: pictures of themselves are the most compromising stories about themselves. 47 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: They had to give this to the leaders of the 48 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: group so that in case they ever left this begin 49 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: It sounds like a freaky, weird, felonious version of scientology 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: where you have to have be audited and tell all 51 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the worst things you've ever done, the extreme in your life, 52 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: and then they have it to hold over your head. Guys, 53 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: hold on with me. As Alexis Jurez Chuck investigative reporter 54 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: with Radar Online dot Com but now joining us is 55 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: the journalist who originally broke the story of this cult. 56 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: It's real NXIVM pronounced nexium. It's found Keith Rainieri allegedly 57 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: subjecting women to humiliating sex acts and branding women and 58 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: their pelvic area with a series of initials. It had 59 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: a large basse, has a large bass in Albany, New York. 60 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: The guy who first cracked this story, journalist Frank Parlotto, 61 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: and the former Nexium publicist. You can find out all 62 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: about him and a lot of his work at Art Voice. 63 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Frank Parlotto, thank you for being with us. This is 64 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: such a wildly fantastical story it's almost hard to believe. 65 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: And Frank, you broke the story. What happened, Well, initially 66 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: it began just called Nextium in nineteen ninety eight, and 67 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: on two thousand and two they achieved their first great recruit, 68 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: and that was Seagram's heiress Claire Brockmann. With her hundreds 69 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars behind the cult, they were able 70 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: to recruits various celebrities such as Kristin Kruk, Grace Park, 71 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: and Alison Matt. Matt became a true believer, and in 72 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: time she elevated herself to nearly the top of the 73 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: cult and became Ranier's top recruiter of young, attractive new 74 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Bile slender women or ranees invidious sex cults who wa wa, wait, 75 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: what did you say? What kind of women? He had 76 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: a type and they were young, slender, long haired, new 77 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: bile and attractive prosperably with a little bit of monch. Okay, sorry, Jackie, 78 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: we're out. Okay, we're not getting into they as as 79 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: they say, the unique human development and women's movement, that 80 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: is what Alison Matt, the thirty five year old star 81 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: of the hit series Smallville, had been tweeting and sending 82 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: notes to Kelly Clarkson and also to Emma Watson, trying 83 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: to lure them in. Luckily they're smart enough to stay 84 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: away from it. Frank Parlotto with me, the former Nexian publicist. 85 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: He's in charge of an incredible site called Art Voice 86 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: and the journalists that first broke the story. So it 87 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: all starts off with a fringe group that manages to 88 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: recruit an heiress from the Seagram's liquor dynasty, and she 89 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: pumps a lot of money into it. They according to 90 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: Frank solicit young. I don't believe I've heard anybody say 91 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the word new bile in a long time. It's flashback 92 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: to Playboy in nineteen ninety. But okay, not judging Frank Young, 93 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: thin women, Okay, what happens? Then? It begins innocently enough. 94 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: The first meetings are surrounded with a group of women, 95 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: all of them already in the cult, who present a 96 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: picture of normalcy, a picture of a friendly, wonderful, kind 97 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: of lovely sorority. I think the term that's often used 98 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: in these kinds of cult like recruitment scenarios is love bombing. 99 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: A woman comes in, she's told that this kind of 100 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: program will improve her life, she'll get life coaching, and 101 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: she'll be mentored by other women who care about her. 102 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: That's the initial deception. Then what happens, So they have 103 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the facade of normalcy. So you think you're joining a 104 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: women's group, Is that right, Frank Parlato. Yes, you are 105 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: elbow to elbow with stars like Alison Mack or Kristin Krug. 106 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: You're hobnabbing with Claire Brafman, who's Seagrim's heiress, and surrounded 107 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: by attractive women, all of them slender. Later you'll realize 108 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: why they're so slender. They're kept down restrictive diets. But 109 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: your initial impression is this is really quite an exciting 110 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: opportunity for me or whoever it is that's joining. And 111 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: then they begin be hypnotic induction. Okay, what's that? It's 112 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: a very carefully laid out plan and Keith Rinieri, the 113 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: head of Nexium, is a master hypnotist. This is his 114 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: art and this is his specialty. And you begin by 115 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: attending very long classes. They're very intense, high intensity classes. 116 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: They begin at seven in the morning and the end 117 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: of ten or eleven at night, and there is a 118 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: slow hypnotic process that goes on, very carefully laid scheme. Well, 119 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: what are the classes about, Frank. They purport to be 120 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: about new ways of doing critical thinking. In fact, it's 121 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: called rational inquiry, and they start to challenge the students 122 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 1: on various kinds of conceptions that they've long held as 123 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: their base of beliefs, such as what well, for instance, 124 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: they begin kind of innocently, they talk about the criminal code, 125 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: the social morays. They ask you, for example, to make 126 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: a list of all of the advantages that would accrue 127 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: to you if your boyfriend or husband should happen to die. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, 128 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: whoa whoa right there, right there, it sounds to me 129 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: and Karen start with me, a New York psychologist, very 130 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: well known. That's exactly what happens. When you get brainwashed 131 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: your core beliefs. You're you're incouraged to start questioning them 132 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: until suddenly what you're doing doesn't same wrong at all. 133 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: I've seen it in yangs. There's a whole us versus 134 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: them mentality that ensues, and they choose people that are susceptible. 135 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: And as that brainwashing experiences occurring that you just mentioned, Nancy, 136 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: what happens is that they become more and more open 137 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: to the suggestibility of the cult and they are actual 138 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: they're beginning to discover brain changes that occur. That starts, 139 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: it's like an overload of information that starts to happen, 140 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: so that the individual becomes more entrenched. And it's hard 141 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: to believe how convincing this new world becomes. But think 142 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: about Manson and all the girls that he was able 143 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: to attract to him, which when we're looking on the outside, 144 00:10:54,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: makes no sense. Crime stories with Nancy Grace welcome back. 145 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, see Grace and breaking news right now. The 146 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: leader of a so called sex called Keith Ranieri, and 147 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: this is a guy highly educated, has money, has a home, 148 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: has had very reputable jobs, ends up leading a sex 149 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: called Well, he's got plenty of time to think about it, 150 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: because a jury has just thrown the book at him, 151 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: guilty on all seven counts. But how does this happen 152 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: in the two thousands, Frank Parlotto with me former nexting publicist, 153 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: the journalists that broke the story and has a site 154 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: called art Voice. Frank, somehow this guy Ranieri, Keith Ranieri, 155 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: managed to brainwash, you know, powerful and educated and wealthy women. 156 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: So they're in these grueling classes about questioning their beliefs. 157 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: How does it go, Frank Parlato to getting branded with 158 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: a hot iron on your pelvic region. Well, you have 159 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: to consider that it took nine years from Ellison Mac's 160 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: first entree into the cult to the day she was 161 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: branded and began to brand of your women, nine long 162 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: years of hypnotic conduction. So to Alexas Treschut, investigative reporter 163 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: with Radar Online dot com, what starts as a women's 164 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: empowerment group with a facade of normalcy ends with sex 165 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: trafficking and literally branding women physically. And these women were 166 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: expected and I'm pressured by Alison and Keith into having 167 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: sex with Keith. And it wasn't just Alison, Keith was 168 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: all of the women and that's what and they were 169 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: they were told and the indictment revealed that they were 170 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: threatened with physical force and violence if they didn't submit 171 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: to this, that they would be physically harmed if they 172 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: didn't submit to have sex with Keith, and then the 173 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: brand name they were really lied to. These women were 174 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: told that joining this organization, you know, into the upper 175 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: levels of the of the club Splash Cold, that they 176 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: would just get a small tattoo. And the first woman 177 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: they came out and said, I had I was fine 178 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: with a small tattoo. But instead they were taken into 179 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: a room. They were placed on a massage table, the 180 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: face up. Three people held them. One person held each 181 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: leg and the other held their shoulders, and their arms 182 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: held them down, and these initials were carrized into their body, burned, 183 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: turned into their body, and it literally took between like 184 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: twenty and thirty minutes. One of the women who came 185 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: forward said, I disassociated. I felt like I left my body. 186 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: I wept the entire time because it was so awful. 187 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: What were the initials that were branded into the women? 188 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: Keith Ranier's initials are in this branding. It's a K 189 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: and an R design. And in fact he has said, 190 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: well what if if they were Bill Gates as initials, 191 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: you wouldn't care, but because their mind, you're upset about it. 192 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: It's horrific that these women were burned this way. Well, 193 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I would care no matter who. Initials were branded into 194 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: my skin or my daughter's skin branded to Joseph Scott Morgan, 195 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: forensics expert and professor of forensics at Jacksonville State University. 196 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Long story short, that is your prime forensic evidence right there. Yeah, 197 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: and this is not something that's going to be going away. 198 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: It's branded into the skin. It creates this this nasty 199 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: looking kind of keylloid scar. I've seen these on gang 200 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: members primarily, and it's really interesting, Nancy. You perilel held 201 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: this earlier talking about gang membership. One of the things 202 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: that some gangs and even fraternal organizations will will do 203 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: is take a h take a coat hanger, for instance, 204 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: and bend it into a particular shape, heat superheated, and 205 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: then branded in and um. And it's really interesting that 206 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: that the uh, these women are so beaten down at 207 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: this point mentally and emotionally where they get them to 208 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: this point where he, the leader obviously feels comfortable with 209 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: doing this to them and they allow it to certain 210 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: degree to be done to them because they're they're staying 211 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: within this environment. It's almost like it's like all norms 212 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: have been stripped away. Of course this is more Karen's area, 213 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, it is. It is something. It is 214 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: a unique identifier that has left behind that will be 215 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: connected back to them, you know too. And Bremner, high 216 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: profile Seattle lawyer who has been at the forefront of 217 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: so many many renowned cases. And Bremner, in what universe 218 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: is it suddenly okay to hold a woman down by 219 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: force and brand her with a hot iron. I mean, 220 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: at any point didn't these people go, WHOA, this is 221 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: so wrong. I got to get out of here. Well, 222 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so alarming and amazing. And you 223 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: know what these cults somebody does I think Karen mentioned 224 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: the Manson cult. I mean they went out and killed 225 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: for him, and I don't we don't understand it. You know, 226 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: at some point you say, I've got to get out 227 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: of here. Alison Max's bizarre blog, she had detailed life 228 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: and an alleged sex cult. And while she says, quote 229 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: it seems like it has been a lifetime in here already, 230 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to matter as to her feelings about 231 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: if she wanted to get out because her actions belie 232 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: that she was taking part, according to the step, in 233 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: recruiting and using young girls women in a sex cult 234 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: where they were physically branded with a hot iron. I 235 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: want you to hear on ABC's twenty twenty a report 236 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: on this group, this cult, Nexium, and it's right here 237 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: in our country, and there are Hollywood stars and wealthy 238 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: educated women as part of it. Take a listen to this, 239 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: including former members as they describe being stripped, naked, blindfolded, tattooed, 240 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: and abused. Listen to ABC's twenty twenty five women summoned 241 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: to a house outside Albany, New York, one night this 242 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: past March. Sarah Edmondson says she was one of them, 243 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: willingly participating in a strange initiation ritual led by a 244 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: woman who told everyone to take off their clothes and 245 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: put on a blindfold. Let us in blindfold and sat 246 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: us in a semicircle fuck naked, no clothes on a 247 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: cheepskin rug Like, could you could that be any weirder? No, 248 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: it could not be any weirder. We were all you know, 249 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: my goodness, what's going on here? This is so weird 250 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: weird doesn't begin to cover it. Sarah told authority she 251 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: thought they were there to get tattoos. Instead, she says, 252 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: they found out they were all going to be branded. 253 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: It sounds like a horror movie. It was a horror movie. 254 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: It was the most inhumane, horrific way to treat anybody. 255 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: What was that like? It was worse than childbirth. It 256 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: was worse than childbirth. It was imagine a hot laser 257 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: dragged to crash your flege for thirty minutes without anesthetic. 258 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Welcome back on Nancy Grace. 259 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: Keith Rainieri, founder of the Next FIM's sex cult, guilty 260 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: on all counts. The jury was barely out long enough 261 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: to get a drink, a soda and some snacks, and 262 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: they return a guilty verdict. I'm sure the prosecutors are 263 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: dancing up and down the halls. Mixed reviews from victims families, 264 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: The victory bitter sweet. Yes he's going to jail, but 265 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: think of what all these young girls have lived through, 266 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: so many lives changed forever. You were just listening to 267 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: ABC's twenty twenty and a report on NEXIM It's spelled 268 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: n x I the M and with me is the 269 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: former publicist for NEXIM who wrote the story, journalist Frank Parlotta. 270 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: You can find him on art Voice online. Frank, I 271 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: still don't understand how women were brainwashed into thinking this 272 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: was okay. As now charges of sex trafficking are going down. 273 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: Where do those from? Where do those charges stand? World 274 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: two witnesses and there are others, but strictly speaking, the 275 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Jane Joe one and the Jane Joe number two, both 276 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: of these were escaped slaves from the sex culture who 277 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: told their horrifying stories first to me, and then I 278 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: encourage them to go to the FBI to tell their 279 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: entire story, which they did. Their horror emanated primarily from this, 280 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: and this is a secret that many don't yet understand. 281 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: It just didn't start with Brandy. It began by the procurement, 282 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: the assiduous procurement by Wilson mac of blackmail worthy material. 283 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: So the slippery slope occurred where you began as a 284 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: women's empowerment, you were brainwashed. You gave blackmail worthy material 285 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: to Allison and Keith R. Neary, and suddenly you found 286 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: that what you thought was voluntary no longer became voluntary. 287 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: But of course, so let me understand this Alexus terres 288 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: Chuck Radar online dot Com investigative reporter, this sex called Nexium, 289 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: which allegedly forces women to have relations with its leader 290 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: and brands them, we believe with his initials and others 291 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Alexis terres Chuck. As far as the sex trafficking goes, 292 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: what is the origin of the claim? So for sex trafficking, 293 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: she has been accused of recruiting these women from all 294 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: over and taking them to different places to have sex 295 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: with ring year And what they're saying is they used 296 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: either force or coercion. She excuse me, used forced or 297 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: coercion to make them have sex with him, and so 298 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: they traveled all over the world, this group did. And 299 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: in fact, when she the last video we saw of 300 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: Alison mac is, Keith was arrested in March in Mexico. 301 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: They'd been hiding out in a very very very high 302 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: end home in Mexico and the authorities captured him. Allison 303 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: jumps in a car and there is video of her 304 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: chasing the police and chasing the car that Keith is 305 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: in in hysterics. Basically, she is so upset that her 306 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: leader has been arrested and she is She's not somebody 307 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: who was like, oh, yeah, this is right, this is bad. 308 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: This guy's finally been arrested, thank goodness for me. No, 309 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: she is convinced that this guy is being treated unfairly, 310 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: and so she was chasing the police down as if 311 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: to try to rescue him from the cops in Wolco. Well. 312 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, take a listen to Hollywood 313 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: store Alice mac as she is interviewing the alleged cult 314 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: leader about his program that quote helps actors be better actors. Okay, listen, 315 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit about the Source, 316 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: which is the company that you've created for actors, artists, 317 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: people who want to get better at expressing in general. 318 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: Several years ago, when we first met, I had said 319 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: to you, would you be willing to work with me 320 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: and becoming a better actress, and you said, yeah, you know, 321 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. And then several years later you 322 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: started working with me and a bunch of other people 323 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: to develop a curriculum specifically for actors. And I've been 324 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: talking to different people about it in like different actors 325 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: and things like that, enrolling them in the idea of 326 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: coming and participating and saying what you've created, because it's 327 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: been incredible for me. And a lot of the questions 328 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: that they ask is like, well, how is it different 329 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: than Meisner? How is it different than Stella Adler or whatever, 330 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of what the answers that I've given 331 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: have been like, well, it's sort of, it's sort of 332 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: it's a partnership with that because it gives you the 333 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: foundation underneath all of the technical skills and all of 334 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: the kind of traditional approaches to acting that we've had 335 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: throughout time, Like it really gets to the core of 336 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: the actor so that you can work on the raw 337 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: material and then everything else that they produce is affected 338 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: by that. But I don't know, Like I'm curious to 339 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: know what your perception is of the curriculum that you 340 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: created and where it came from. And well, it comes 341 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: from a mix of human behavior and philosophy and also 342 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: really technical communication. You know, acting is all about a 343 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: type of communication and being not only more aware, but 344 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: more congruent in your communication. So you want people to, 345 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: if you will, to be a bit common in what 346 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: I say. You want people to buy your character right, 347 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: and the way they buy it is they find it 348 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: congruent and authentic the questions. I mean, if someone could 349 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: be totally congruent in a character and express authentically through 350 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: that character, so they could do any sort of a 351 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: scene or whatever, certainly that actor could do anything. So 352 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: the question is, how do you achieve that? How do 353 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: you achieve congruents? How do you achieve authenticity? And I 354 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: think there are many roads to do this. The thing 355 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: that I think makes the source a bit unique is 356 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I come from a non acting background. You could say 357 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about, So that's good 358 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: and bad. The good aspect is it comes from a behaviorist, 359 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: humanist sort of practical and philosophical background, dealing with communication 360 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: with all sorts of things relating to the psychodynamics of 361 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: people and humans. As you hear Alison mac interviewing the 362 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: cult leader, compare that the dichotomy of these victims describing 363 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: being strip naked, blindfolded a tattoos. Sarah says she devoted 364 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: twelve years to Nexium, recruiting hundreds of new members, rising 365 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: through the organization, even opening and running a center in 366 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: Vancouver along the way, becoming best friends with Nancy Saltzman's 367 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: daughter Lauren, who was made of honor at Sarah's wedding. 368 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: She's like my therapist, and in the ranking system she's 369 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: also above me. Then in March, after all their years 370 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: together in Nexium, Sarah says, Lauren approached her about a 371 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: new and mysterious opportunity. She said, I want to avoue 372 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: you to something that totally changed my life. It was 373 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: a secret sorority for women only, life changing, but top secret. 374 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: And the first step is making a valve obedience to 375 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: her as me being a slave and her being my master. 376 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Again she used the word slave, of course, yeah, and 377 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: objected every stage of the way, and she said, it's 378 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: just a it's a metaphor, it's a guru disciple. Then 379 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: came the night that Sarah says she and four other 380 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: women submitted one by one to being branded by this woman, 381 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: she says, doctor Danielle Roberts. And then the woman on 382 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: the table screamed out in pain, you know, twisted and 383 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: turned and yelled, and the woman I was with, holding 384 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: her legs down, we looked at each other and we 385 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: just wept. Why did you let go and run out 386 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: of there, even naked? It didn't seem like a choice 387 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: at the time, She points. Two years of Nexium training 388 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: and all the indoctrination, all the years of women are weak, 389 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: women have no character. Now is the time to prove 390 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: I can do it, and I said. Sarah gives another 391 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: explanation for her obedience. Before she joined the Secret Sorority 392 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: and got branded. She says, Laurence Saltzman had demanded highly 393 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: compromising collateral. You need to provide something to me that 394 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to hold forever, just to confirm and to 395 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: solidify that you'll never share the secret. So what did 396 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: you give her? So? I gave her a written confessional, 397 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: and she says, for her and some others, the price 398 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: of admission to the secret group also included providing nude 399 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: photos of themselves. So understand when women do that, it's 400 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: very difficult to say no, I'm not doing this because 401 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: the person has something of you with them. Instantly, all 402 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: my alarm bells are going absolutely So why did you 403 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: do it? I did it because I trusted her. That 404 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: was from ABC's twenty twenty report on Nexium Crime Stories 405 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. I mean, see Grace, this is crime stories. 406 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: Keith Rneer, the founder of a bizarre sex called Right 407 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: under Our Noses, including wealthy, educated, socialite women, I mean 408 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: famous women as part of this sex cult. Just had 409 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the book thrown at him, and frankly, I can't wait 410 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: till he's sentenced. I hope he gets the maximum on 411 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: every account to run consecutively, one after the next. But 412 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: you gotta wonder. Yes, while I'm happy and relieved, more 413 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: relieved at the guilty verdict, I just gotta stop and 414 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: try to figure out how this happened. I mean, this 415 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: is going on right under our noses. How this is 416 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: how the whole thing works. I'm Former members of the 417 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: cult claim the Hollywood star Mac would lure young ladies 418 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: into joining the cult cult and then demand they turned 419 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: over quote collateral. The collateral would be compromising photos or 420 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: their personal assets, money belongings, car titles. That collateral was 421 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: then used by Mac to control the women who were 422 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: transformed into branded sex slaves. Now the founder, Ranieri was 423 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: arrested the way Alexis Reschuk just told us in Mexico, 424 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: the States said that during the past twenty years, Ranierie 425 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: established a series of self help programs. Self help programs. 426 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: They had centers, so they were getting a lot of money. 427 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Funding in the US Mexico, Canada, South America, and it 428 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: was a pyramid scheme. The courses cost thousands of dollars 429 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: and the people that took them were then encouraged to 430 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: pay for other classes and recruit other people to take 431 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: the classes so they could rise up within the ranks. 432 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: It's like it's a pyramid scheme. And Bremner it's like 433 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: a Ponzi scheme. And Bremner Seattle lawyer explain what I 434 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: mean by pyramid. Basically, it's like Amoy or any of 435 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: these kinds of things that you just keep building membership 436 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: by using your members to go out and get to 437 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: the people, and just keep building that pyramid. There's a 438 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of financial ones like that too, But this is 439 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: human trafficking and it's just self perpetuating. So what would 440 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: happen Frank Parlotto with me, the former Nextium publicist, the 441 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: journalists that first broke the story. You can find him 442 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: at art Voice. What would happen if someone try to 443 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: stop and leave the cult? Well, they threatened them with 444 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the release of their quote unquote collateral. It all exploded 445 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: their own May of two thousand and seventeen, when the 446 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: secret part of Nextium they call it dust In that 447 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: stands for dominos, obsequious serrium, or the master over. The 448 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: slave women became revealed to the external group of Nexium, 449 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the women who had not yet been branded, and that 450 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: caused kind of a chaotic explosion with the Nexium and 451 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: a rapid exodus. Ellison stuck with the group, as did 452 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: the core slaves, and even when the women's were threatened, 453 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: some of them, like Sarah Edmondson, decided to leave any 454 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: way and risk the collateral being released. Wow, it's just 455 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: amazing that this is happening right here under our own noses. 456 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. According to promotional materials, even 457 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: as a child, Ranieri was destined for greatness, speaking in 458 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: full sentences at age one, reading at age two, judo 459 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: champ and concert level pianist. At thirteen, I was told 460 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: that he was one of the smartest men in the 461 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: world and just an incredible man. With that, I'm going 462 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: to pass the microphone over to mister and Neery. So incredible. 463 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: It seems that an ordinary name just won't do. Participants 464 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: say they're taught to call Ranieri Vanguard. Vanguard. Yes, Vanguard 465 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: is the name that we referred to Keith as because 466 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: he is a leader of a philosophical movement. The second 467 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: highest ranking member of Nexium is a woman named Nancy Saltzman. 468 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: Former members say she is known as Prefect so Keith 469 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: and Nancy Vanguarden Prefect. At the heart of Nexium training 470 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: is something called intensives, which former members say are like 471 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: group therapy, running as long as fourteen hours a day 472 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: for up to sixteen days. Edmondson says she attended her 473 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: first in two thousand and five, when she was twenty seven. 474 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: I left my five day, my initial training, as if 475 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: a veil had been lifted and I could see things 476 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: more clearly in my life. I could communicate better with people. 477 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: That sounds fantastic, Yeah, it was great. Classes are invitation 478 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: only and they are not cheap. A five day intensive 479 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: will run you three thousand dollars, a sixteen day is 480 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: seventy five hundred. In promotional videos and materials, it claims 481 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: more than sixteen thousand people worldwide have taken Nexium courses. 482 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: Many testify to its effectiveness. I learned through the tools 483 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: that there was a different way. Sarah was recruited into 484 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: the group by filmmaker Mark Vicente. What was it that 485 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: was so compelling to you, just a wait it to 486 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: break down and understand certain things in my life in 487 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: a way I never had before. Ranieri is fiercely protective 488 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: of his teachings, requiring participants to sign confidentiality agreements. Everyone 489 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: signed it, and if you didn't sign it, you couldn't 490 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: take the curriculum. We do know that Nexium has its 491 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: own LINGO. Students are taught about overcoming disintegrations to be 492 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: become more potent and less suppressive, and avoiding people termed 493 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: parasites or luciferians, you know. To Karen Stark, New York Psychologists, Karen, 494 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: when you're in so deep in something, I guess it 495 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: seems normal to you. It seems normal to you, and 496 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: it seems normal to the people around you. And maybe 497 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: for people who are vulnerable for the first time, they 498 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: get a strong feeling of belonging to something. It always 499 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: involves a charismatic leader, so that you're enticed and you 500 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: feel like you're getting the special attention. She talks about 501 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: Alice and at the fact that he was her mentor 502 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: that he mentored her in acting and the skills of acting, 503 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: and they made it all sound very legitimate. You took courses, 504 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: There was a curriculum. It became extremely enticing to be 505 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: a part of this group, particularly because there were so 506 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: many people who were celebrities or who had a great 507 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: deal of money, and you begin to question, well, estate, 508 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: why would they be a member of this group if 509 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: it were not legitimate. We are talking about a cult 510 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: that started in Albany, New York, Upstate New York, with 511 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: connections all over the world. Now it poses as a 512 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: self help organization to empower women, and it rides the 513 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: coattails of girl power. It ends up in the spotlight 514 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: when the New York Times investigation exposed that the women 515 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: in the group were referred to as slaves and subjected 516 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: to ritual humiliations. They starved themselves. They were forced to 517 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: starve themselves to achieve the cult leaders beauty ideal and 518 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: to have repeated relations with him. To Frank Parlotto, former 519 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: Anxium publicist, founder of Art Voice and the journalists that 520 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: broke the story, Frank, how did you become involved with 521 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: Nexium as their publicist? But I was originally retained to 522 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: work for them by Claire Broffman, the Seagrim's heiress who 523 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: funds the entire operation of Nexium. She funded all of 524 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: the branding and the cult network, and I was retained 525 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and seven to try to help 526 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: them get a better public persona. Even at that time 527 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: people in the media were labeling this group as a cult. Well, Frank, 528 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: how did you get out of it? Why? I had 529 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: uncovered that Keith rugh Neeri, the head of the cult, 530 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: he had embezzled or swindled Claire Broffmann out of one 531 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. And I approached Claire and I told 532 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: her that her money was missing and that Keith was 533 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: in charge of that money. One hundred million disappeared, and 534 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: she didn't really want to accept that finding, which you 535 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: know later wound up being proven to be true. She 536 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: was contented in swindling herd on of one hundred milks. 537 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: Anti Ranieri fired, Wow, I just wonder what jail he's 538 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: going to. I can only think about what may happen 539 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: to him behind bars. Not that I approve vigilante justice. 540 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: Of course, we wait as justice unfals. Nancy Grace crime story, 541 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: signing off, good bye friend,