Speaker 1: Welcome to Special Teams, a production of I Heart Radio
Speaker 1: Greetings and Welcome inside Special Teams with Jason Smith and
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon, the podcast that looks back at special teams
Speaker 1: single season achievements in sports history. We look back at
Speaker 1: the best of the best, sometimes teams that were so
Speaker 1: memorable even though they couldn't win at all, Sometimes teams
Speaker 1: that couldn't win a game. And we have a very
Speaker 1: special two week theme going on here on the podcast
Speaker 1: as since we are in the month of March, this
Speaker 1: is n c A Tournament Month, a special Cinderella's Podcast,
Speaker 1: not one, but two as over the course of this weekend.
Speaker 1: Next week, we're gonna look back at six of the
Speaker 1: best Cinderella schools in n c A Tournament history. Up
Speaker 1: they were able to accomplish the big names, the big wins,
Speaker 1: the big everything Part one three teams Today. I like
Speaker 1: the way you did that. You set it up and
Speaker 1: you had me and then you said schools and all
Speaker 1: the prep I did on Tom Kieford just went out
Speaker 1: the window. Oh I'm sorry. Okay, Well, here's gonna need
Speaker 1: to know. Long Cold Winner, one of the most underrated
Speaker 1: hair metal albums of all time. Cinderella. Probably boy, they're
Speaker 1: on that there and there and what are they one
Speaker 1: in the top seven or eight hair metal bands of
Speaker 1: the eighties early nineties. Oh, they had a fantastic run,
Speaker 1: there's no question about. I mean, bad Seamstress Blue is
Speaker 1: Coming Apart At the Scenes is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: songs of all time. Pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you go all the way through. I mean Tom Keiform
Speaker 1: still making the rounds, and just a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago I got to see him play a little acoustic
Speaker 1: light show. But yeah, it's you know, you're talking about
Speaker 1: millions upon millions of albums. I mean, you go back
Speaker 1: into the cassettes. I'm sure you still have a few
Speaker 1: floating around. The singles I have of Cinderella, so many
Speaker 1: of that joy It sounds like just like him where
Speaker 1: the cat got at your throat. It's really hard to sing,
Speaker 1: like it hurts in the car because I get done,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't talk for an hour. That's at
Speaker 1: the scenes. So when you listen, when you listen to
Speaker 1: our show on Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show
Speaker 1: in Mike Armen, when you hear me talk a lot
Speaker 1: within an hour, Jason did something really bad on the
Speaker 1: way in either he ate something he should have his
Speaker 1: throat dirt, or he sang some hair metal. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Mainly that would be if I did the first three
Speaker 1: songs of Long Cold Winter, because that goes into Gypsy Road.
Speaker 1: Don't know what you got till it's gone. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would have no voice after that at all. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out well for you. But instead it
Speaker 1: is Cinderella teams in the n c A tournament, teams
Speaker 1: that were high seeds, not expected to go very far,
Speaker 1: and ones that grabbed our attention in tonight's episode, today's
Speaker 1: episode rather or tonight today, tonight, whatever you're listening to it.
Speaker 1: We have a team from the eighties. We got a
Speaker 1: team from the nineties. I've got a team from the odds.
Speaker 1: The isn't getting be better than that? When we should
Speaker 1: start with the eighties because we're talking about Cinderella. Hey
Speaker 1: remember the eighties? Eight it's the eighties? Man, wasn't that
Speaker 1: with Goat Boy? I think so? I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I know. I think that was the title of
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter book, Harry Potter and the Goat Boy.
Speaker 1: That's book eight. The first team up Night six Navy,
Speaker 1: the midshipman led by none other than the Admiral David Robinson,
Speaker 1: who had some kind of run all season long. Four
Speaker 1: Navy and look, he went out to be called a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player Championship with the San Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 1: He could not be stopped in the pros once he
Speaker 1: got through his Naval obligation. But coming into his senior
Speaker 1: year he was highly regarded and he just took over
Speaker 1: in the n c A Tournament. This is a guy that,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. At the end of the year,
Speaker 1: he was only a second team All American. I mean,
Speaker 1: imagine that, David ro Hobbinson, one of the most decorated
Speaker 1: players in NBA history. Second team All American. That's as
Speaker 1: good as he could get. I just remember all of
Speaker 1: the little vignettes right the Hey, let's look at the
Speaker 1: life of David Robinson. Hey, he can't fit here, he
Speaker 1: can't fit there. And he always looked like a giant
Speaker 1: compared to the guys he was playing against, like he
Speaker 1: was larger than life. As a college athlete. I remember
Speaker 1: the when he the rookie cards came out, one of
Speaker 1: him holding the jersey. Right, they didn't have the inaction
Speaker 1: shot because all you have was draft night and everything
Speaker 1: how sought after all that was. But I just remember
Speaker 1: those CBS telecasts and there he is, you know, always
Speaker 1: with a quick nod to the service to be done,
Speaker 1: and always in his Navy blues. And then you get
Speaker 1: back on the court and just watch him dominate from
Speaker 1: pillar to post. I mean, just ridiculous athleticism that you
Speaker 1: knew was gonna make him a star. On Davy's coach
Speaker 1: by Paul Evans, they play in the CIA and they
Speaker 1: come out of the year with a thirty and five record. Alright,
Speaker 1: so not bad thirty and five, but it's Navy. How
Speaker 1: good really are they? They have one good player? How
Speaker 1: far can they really go? In the n c A
Speaker 1: Tournament first round, they beat Tulsa, Okay, not a big deal.
Speaker 1: David Robinson goes for thirty and twelve, and hey, that's
Speaker 1: a nice story. Here's the ad before he's really the admiral.
Speaker 1: Here he is with a big game. But now let's
Speaker 1: see what he can do because then you have Syracuse
Speaker 1: coming up next, your Syrius Syracuse Orange back then the
Speaker 1: Orange Men, and before I went there, so this is
Speaker 1: when you know I was a st John's fan. So
Speaker 1: it's not like I was watching this game rooting for
Speaker 1: Syracuse because I was a St. John's fan and St.
Speaker 1: John's was a rival of Syracuse. If anything, I was
Speaker 1: rooting for David Robinson to have a big game. About that,
Speaker 1: see how life has changed. Big game he did. They
Speaker 1: beat Syracuse five, David Robinson thirty five points, eleven rebounds,
Speaker 1: seven blocks. After the game, he actually said, I actually
Speaker 1: felt slow on offense tonight. I didn't feel like I
Speaker 1: had my s game going. Vernon Butler very underrated, who
Speaker 1: was Navy's second best player. He had a bunch of
Speaker 1: big games over the course of the season. He had
Speaker 1: twenty three points. It was the last game at Syracuse
Speaker 1: for Pearl Washington. He would go to the NBA after
Speaker 1: drafted by the Nets. The next year's Syracuse would go
Speaker 1: to the National Championship Game. But now beating Syracuse because
Speaker 1: in the eighties was really when the birth of Syracuse happened.
Speaker 1: Like different schools hit it big at different times, but
Speaker 1: the magic of television, Syracuse was always on TV. People
Speaker 1: would see it, would see the Carrier Dome. Thirty three thousand,
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand people at all the games I want
Speaker 1: to go to Syracuse. They churned out NBA prospects. Beating
Speaker 1: Syracuse really put Navy and David Robinson on the map
Speaker 1: as well. This is not just a really great player
Speaker 1: who's you know, doing well against the CIA. This is
Speaker 1: a guy that just really put it on Syracuse. Right
Speaker 1: goes and the decided step up in class. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go through their schedule. This was their fifteenth win
Speaker 1: in a row. That had an earlier winning streak of
Speaker 1: seven that that had gotten snapped by the Richmond Spiders.
Speaker 1: About that for the randomness in the don't bring up Wan,
Speaker 1: bring up rich because that reminds me of ninety two
Speaker 1: when we went out to Richmond in the first bleeping round. No,
Speaker 1: that's what you know. That's the Special Team's podcast and
Speaker 1: Syracuse Failures. Okay, that's another special one. That would be
Speaker 1: a long we don't have enough time for that podcast.
Speaker 1: That's four parts. We don't have enough four parts. People
Speaker 1: would say, you need like seven more. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we could, we could no. Actually those are hour long
Speaker 1: therapi more. Lawrence Moten calls time out and we lose
Speaker 1: to Arkansas. Was just like Chris Webber, but nobody paid
Speaker 1: attention to it. He got a Lawrence Moten reference. We
Speaker 1: actually we're actually Facebook friends, Lawrence Moten, I Facebook good.
Speaker 1: He used to come into bars and Syracuse wearing a
Speaker 1: Syracuse hat that had rhinestones on it. I mean it
Speaker 1: was I mean, I said, I want that hat. It
Speaker 1: would sparkle. It was glittery diamonds. It was lovely and gorgeous. No,
Speaker 1: that's great. I mean they put up ninety seven in
Speaker 1: the game against Syracuse. I mean, this is a on
Speaker 1: young Ronnie Psychly too, who still look thirty five, but
Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, he was. He minutes playing Washington and
Speaker 1: Alexis with your leaders Monroe with fifteen off the bench,
Speaker 1: but still at twelve point loss, just dominated by Robinson.
Speaker 1: So then they go to the sweet sixteen. And this
Speaker 1: game was a very famous game in n c A
Speaker 1: history because I remember, this is one of the first
Speaker 1: n c A tournaments that I really paid attention to
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And I'm saying to myself, Navy is
Speaker 1: gonna play Cleveland State. Who was the other Cinderella that year,
Speaker 1: Ken Mouse McFadden. You know, this is a team that's surprised.
Speaker 1: You know, won a couple of games like Oh, look
Speaker 1: at my goodness. Cleveland State is winning this. They upset
Speaker 1: Indiana in the first round, and Navy or Cleveland State
Speaker 1: was going to the Elite eight, and that back then
Speaker 1: I was young enough to go. That blows my mind.
Speaker 1: One of these teams are gonna be. It shouldn't be
Speaker 1: one of these teams in the Elite eight. Now you
Speaker 1: see stuff like this all the time. But when I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, fourteen, I'm like, this shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: These teams don't deserve to be at least always thought
Speaker 1: it was such a separation, or at least that's how
Speaker 1: it was portrayed. I mean, now you have so many breakdowns,
Speaker 1: so many networks, so many different ways to get and
Speaker 1: parse out information, advanced analytics and stats that you understand
Speaker 1: how this could happen. But at the time, you know,
Speaker 1: you still had David and Goliath. I guess d J.
Speaker 1: David becomes Goliath. You have it against Cleveland State. DJ.
Speaker 1: I kind of fumbled back into that one because I
Speaker 1: knew you would be ready with the Burman pick up.
Speaker 1: So they play Cleveland State and Cleveland States very physical
Speaker 1: in this game. Paul Evans actually uh challenged David Robinson
Speaker 1: had not to a fight, you would have lost because
Speaker 1: David rob But if I could have anybody in sports history,
Speaker 1: I'd want David Robinson's that he was like a Greek
Speaker 1: god man. Yeah, that was that was statuesque. I want
Speaker 1: to hey, ladies, I'm David Robinson, except I'm Jason Smith
Speaker 1: with David Robinson's body. Um. He challenged Robinson half because
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing well, probably the physical play. Robinson had
Speaker 1: a huge second half. He finished with twenty two and
Speaker 1: fourteen nine blocks. He has one block shy of a
Speaker 1: triple double with blocks blocks. When you see something get
Speaker 1: beyond two or three in a game, you really want
Speaker 1: to go back and watch that again, right and you
Speaker 1: get to nine again. Talking about dominance and how active
Speaker 1: he was because he could close out right that length
Speaker 1: where it didn't look like he was in a play,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he just come back in
Speaker 1: get a fingertip in and he was good about keeping
Speaker 1: the ball in bounce and it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: Always celebrated the play of a c earl of Iowa
Speaker 1: who was the big ten shot blocker because he would
Speaker 1: keep it in play. It was always a tap into
Speaker 1: a teammate instead of the hey, let's throw it into
Speaker 1: the fifth road. David Robinson was doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Robinson wins the game for Navy with a tip in
Speaker 1: on a lob pass with five seconds left. They win
Speaker 1: at seventy seventy and year goes Navy into the Elite
Speaker 1: eight where it's Duke, and suddenly it's the Admiral and Duke.
Speaker 1: And who do you root for? Because this at this point,
Speaker 1: everybody still loved Duke. I mean this is they have
Speaker 1: not been demonized boy Duke and Mike Shashowski. What a
Speaker 1: great program they have. It's all about respect. We love Duke.
Speaker 1: But now five or six more years, I'm not like dude. No.
Speaker 1: And then it became the team that was always there
Speaker 1: at the end and you cheered against. And then you
Speaker 1: got into bracketology of is this one of those years
Speaker 1: where they're gonna make a big run or they bouncing
Speaker 1: out early. Now he's yelling at his own fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you don't know what to expect anymore. Uh. Navy
Speaker 1: comes back to earth in this game. They lose seventy
Speaker 1: to fifty one, and I remember the pageantry surrounding Navy
Speaker 1: because whenever any of the service schools, the Service Academy's, Navy, Army,
Speaker 1: Air Force do well. It just evokes this image of
Speaker 1: an early America, of the you know, the nineteen forties
Speaker 1: in college football when it was Army, Navy, and Cornell,
Speaker 1: I think we're the only three teams, and it just
Speaker 1: get When the service academies do well, it's like it
Speaker 1: makes everybody feel good. And David Robinson was that feel
Speaker 1: good story. Even though they lost, boy, he brought them
Speaker 1: all the way to the elite. Hey, this guy is
Speaker 1: gonna be a super duperstar. Like like I said before,
Speaker 1: with the the vignettes you'd always have as they were
Speaker 1: getting ready because he was gonna be the number one pick.
Speaker 1: I mean that was decided. There was no question about that.
Speaker 1: So let's get to know him. And it was a
Speaker 1: chance without being a commercial. It became a commercial for
Speaker 1: the Navy and what you could do, and we certainly
Speaker 1: see it in college football. Bunch hasn't had the same
Speaker 1: opportunity in the years since David Robinson to do that
Speaker 1: on a basketball stage. But it was look a look
Speaker 1: at the athlete, look at the well rounded guy. Because
Speaker 1: they would always go into the academics right, here's what
Speaker 1: his schedule looks like, and here's how you prepare and
Speaker 1: and all the rigors of it. Just to really elevate
Speaker 1: who he was. He has to come back for a
Speaker 1: senior year because it's Navy. And you know, this is
Speaker 1: a story that you look many people who are our
Speaker 1: age remember it. But this was a huge controversy. If
Speaker 1: this happened now, this would be an everyday story for
Speaker 1: a year because in the Navy, you have to fulfill
Speaker 1: your naval requirements following graduation. Now, not many players were
Speaker 1: talent enough to go from Navy Army to the NFL
Speaker 1: or the NBA, because you don't go there. If you're
Speaker 1: that good, you're going to different schools. But David Robinson
Speaker 1: was different. He wanted to go to Navy. He wanted
Speaker 1: to go to the Naval Academy. He's got to come
Speaker 1: back for his senior year. You can't go pro because
Speaker 1: you got to go to the Navy first. They have
Speaker 1: another good season, but they lose the first round of
Speaker 1: the n c A Tournament the following year to Michigan.
Speaker 1: He scores fifty points in that game, his final collegiate game,
Speaker 1: Spurs making the number one pick, but he's got to
Speaker 1: sit out. There was so much pressure to allow him
Speaker 1: to play because it was a good story for the Navy,
Speaker 1: and the Navy knew, Okay, we're not gonna have any
Speaker 1: good publicity if we just keep him from playing. So
Speaker 1: they cut short his commitment by two years, and the
Speaker 1: Spurs waited for him. He said, I'm gonna honor the
Speaker 1: Spurs made the number one pick. Knowing they weren't gonna
Speaker 1: have me, he stayed. And look we did with san Antonio,
Speaker 1: his entire Hall of Fame career, an amazing run, right,
Speaker 1: and then you seeds way to Tim Duncan and they
Speaker 1: carry that on for so many years. Again, this story,
Speaker 1: if it happened now, it would go on for your
Speaker 1: Let David Robinson go let him go play interviews with
Speaker 1: rear admirals, vice admirals, front admiral, side admirals, all kinds
Speaker 1: of admirals. We'd be talking to lieutenants. But this put
Speaker 1: Navy basketball on the map, Navy sports on the map.
Speaker 1: That wasn't just hey, Army Navy at the end of
Speaker 1: every year, the one game you watched, how about somewhere
Speaker 1: are they now the Navy midship and no fair saying
Speaker 1: names and just saying they're in the Navy. No fair
Speaker 1: saying that, no idea first for Navy as a whole.
Speaker 1: This was their last n C double A appearance in
Speaker 1: the tournament. They've had five net win five seasons with
Speaker 1: at least nineteen wins, but have never gotten to the
Speaker 1: dance again. All right, here we go. We've got Carl
Speaker 1: Liebert in the Navy CEO and President of the Navy
Speaker 1: at Auto Nation. Oh really wow? Okay, all right, Kyler Whittaker, Navy, No,
Speaker 1: Senior Managing Director of Corporate Sales for Medtronic Cardiac and
Speaker 1: Vascular Group. That's the real name they picked out for that.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a better You have a snazzy your name.
Speaker 1: That's a long title. I played with David Robinson. That
Speaker 1: should be the time. It's a big deal that he
Speaker 1: keeps people's hearts going, keep hearts going. All right, great
Speaker 1: title parts going dot net for the Navy. And then
Speaker 1: you've got uh Douglas woji Right, Frederick Douglas Wojic, Navy Army.
Speaker 1: He is an assistant coach director of recruiting for Tom
Speaker 1: Zoh oh, alright, alright, well, well he's got a chance
Speaker 1: to go to more NC tournaments. Yeah, he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of appearances along the way. So that's Navy Midshipman
Speaker 1: in their incredible run behind the Admiral David Robinson. Coming
Speaker 1: up next, we head to the nineties where a team
Speaker 1: that's a true Cinderella before becoming an n c A
Speaker 1: power years later. That's coming up next. Jason Smith Mike
Speaker 1: harmon Special Teams Podcast. Continuing on Special Teams with Jason
Speaker 1: Smith and Mike Harmon ur podcast, a special Cinderella event
Speaker 1: Slash Podcast, and I got my shoes on, my glass slippers.
Speaker 1: Let's go. No place like home, No place like home,
Speaker 1: Oh baby. So from nineteen eighties, we go to the
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties and the first true Cinderella of the nineties
Speaker 1: that turned into a latter day n c A power,
Speaker 1: Gonzaga Bulldogs. This was their Cinderella debut. Now they're a power,
Speaker 1: but back then it was boy Gonzaga out of the
Speaker 1: w c C. Are they really any good? Dan Monson
Speaker 1: is the head coach. Their star players are Matt Santangelo
Speaker 1: and Casey Calvary. They dominate w c C during the season.
Speaker 1: They go twelve and to twenty eight and seven but
Speaker 1: really they were off the radar because mid major darlings
Speaker 1: weren't really a thing back then. You know, these are
Speaker 1: teams where your Cinderella still kind of needed to be,
Speaker 1: teams that stood out or lower teams from the Power
Speaker 1: five conferences way back then when there were less conferences,
Speaker 1: because the mid majors really didn't become a thing for
Speaker 1: a few more years. Well, but they also started slowly.
Speaker 1: There were four and three out of the gate losses.
Speaker 1: Okay to number eight Kansas, number fIF team per do,
Speaker 1: but you beat Memphis, you beat Washington State, okay, never
Speaker 1: never a powerhouse at Eastern Washington with a big win
Speaker 1: and and then a loss to Detroit mercies. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this team? As you get role and into
Speaker 1: the season and j no mercy for the Bulldogs at Detroit.
Speaker 1: That was well done, well done. I've actually actually said
Speaker 1: that on the air, said that I think we could
Speaker 1: probably go back and check the videotape or we could
Speaker 1: just use your re enactment. So they win the West
Speaker 1: Coast Conference, they go to the n c A Tournament,
Speaker 1: and this is really interesting. Their first game is against Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Right now, why is this such a big deal? Row
Speaker 1: the boat the day well, no, it wasn't rowed the
Speaker 1: boat Minnesota. This wasn't no, no, no, no, no, this
Speaker 1: this wasn't rowed the boat Minnesota. Oh my god, Minnesota's
Speaker 1: got a good football team. The day before the n
Speaker 1: c A tournament, it was revealed their academic counselor Jan Gangelhoff,
Speaker 1: did coursework for as many as twenty players dating back
Speaker 1: to n coursework for the players. So the day before,
Speaker 1: four players immediately are suspended for this game. So the
Speaker 1: day before the nater which usually only happens to Syracuse
Speaker 1: because its happened a couple of times right before the tournament,
Speaker 1: they've lost a guy um and they beat Minnesota in
Speaker 1: the first round and they win. And really, when the
Speaker 1: day before you lose four players and are suddenly embroiled
Speaker 1: in a huge scandal, because it's not just you're losing
Speaker 1: these four players, this is you're losing four players and
Speaker 1: now we're gonna come to town on you. And they
Speaker 1: lose in Gonzaga wins. But at the time I remember
Speaker 1: it being a well, what can you expect from Minnesota?
Speaker 1: How you expecting to win that game? Yeah? No, it's
Speaker 1: certainly Kesta a big shadow over that game as you
Speaker 1: went in and Minnesota was also a team that scraped in, right,
Speaker 1: they weren't exactly a powerhouse kind of what finished seventeen
Speaker 1: and eleven, So it's not a juggernaut of any way.
Speaker 1: They were a seventh seed. It was a seven ten
Speaker 1: game in Gonzaga's attends in one of those when you
Speaker 1: look at those records. Now, I mean we mentioned a
Speaker 1: little earlier in the podcast, Hey you've got Navy winning
Speaker 1: nineteen a game. They're not sniffing the NZ double as
Speaker 1: you've got a seventeen win team that finds its way in.
Speaker 1: Now remember Minnesota for later on we talked about Gonzacka.
Speaker 1: Just remember Minnas soda scandal, lost players, and I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Joel Joel Prisbillo little we will get
Speaker 1: to Joel Prisbilla. The Prisbilla uh second game of the tournament,
Speaker 1: they beat Stanford. Now Stanford, this was a very big win.
Speaker 1: Seventy four was the final. Matt Santangelo had twenty two
Speaker 1: points to lead the way for Gonzaga. He was heavily
Speaker 1: recruited by Stanford, decided to go to Gonzaga. They had
Speaker 1: tons of threes in this game. And this is when
Speaker 1: This is around the time in the n c AS
Speaker 1: when look, the three pointer was always a weapon. But
Speaker 1: this is around the time when teams realized, like the
Speaker 1: mid major teams, that if we can hit threes, we
Speaker 1: can stay with bigger and better teams, kind of like
Speaker 1: when lesser teams in college football would go to a
Speaker 1: spread offense, Like like like teams that can't compete athlete
Speaker 1: wise with some of the top teams in in the A,
Speaker 1: c C or the SEC. Hey, you know what, We're
Speaker 1: gonna go to a spread offense scheme and now we
Speaker 1: can do this. Yeah, and and teams make it tougher
Speaker 1: to prayer prepare for us. And this is where teams realized, wait,
Speaker 1: if we're good a hitting three balls and we get
Speaker 1: it from far out, wait, we can really even the
Speaker 1: playing field against teams that are bigger, more physical, more
Speaker 1: season than us. And this was one of those games
Speaker 1: with those examples. On shot twice as many three pointers
Speaker 1: as Stanford did. I love that team, though looking at Madison,
Speaker 1: who didn't love Mark Mattson, Chris Williams, Arthur Lee remember
Speaker 1: watching them quite a bit as the season wore on.
Speaker 1: But as you say, and get to the three pointer
Speaker 1: hit eleven of twenty. So the shots are falling and
Speaker 1: you're able to take down what had become a strong
Speaker 1: perennial powerhouse in Stanford. So they move on now to
Speaker 1: the Elite eight, and suddenly it's who is our going
Speaker 1: to the Sweet sixteen? Who is Gonzaga? Right? They get
Speaker 1: out of the first round. Gonzaga this school. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: John Stockton went there. Let's get John Stockton on the
Speaker 1: air for interviews. He's the only he's the only thing
Speaker 1: people know about Gonzaga. That's where John Stockton went. See.
Speaker 1: I was always convinced he wasn't. Actually he went to
Speaker 1: one game and it was stock footage again, Sean Stockton
Speaker 1: stock footage of John Stockton at a Gonzaga game. He's
Speaker 1: not really there, but you had to pick it along.
Speaker 1: So hey, listen, we learned how to do photoshop way
Speaker 1: back in. So that's what happened. So now they go
Speaker 1: onto the Sweet sixteen and they play Florida and they
Speaker 1: win seventy three seventy two. Casey Calvary with a tip
Speaker 1: in with four seconds left to put him into the
Speaker 1: Elite eight. I remember this. You'll see this video on YouTube.
Speaker 1: He leaped up above everybody going in just for the
Speaker 1: tip in, and suddenly Gonzaga is Now wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Cinderella the Slipper fits. They go into the Elite eight.
Speaker 1: This is where their ride comes to an end. They
Speaker 1: lose a tough one to Yukon sixties seven sixty two,
Speaker 1: and the ride ends for Gonzaga. But this really was
Speaker 1: the spring board to success for them because after the
Speaker 1: season's over look Dan Monson, you figure, Okay, this guy
Speaker 1: can go wherever he wants to. He gets the head
Speaker 1: coaching job for from what did I tell you remember
Speaker 1: from a few minutes ago? What school Batman? Minnesota? Minnesota
Speaker 1: who needs to clean up their entire programs. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: get the guy that beat us in the first round
Speaker 1: of the tournament. Let's go get Dan Monson. So Dan
Speaker 1: Monson goes to Minnesota and he does well for a
Speaker 1: little while, and then they decide, well, let's give the
Speaker 1: job to Mark Few. Mark Few who then goes and
Speaker 1: takes what Dan Monson started and turns Gonzaga into a
Speaker 1: yearly power in college basketball, to the point where a
Speaker 1: few years later it was not only is Gonzaga in
Speaker 1: the tournament every year, but there are three or four
Speaker 1: seed at worst. You know, they made it the final fours.
Speaker 1: Now it's gonz You think Gonzaga is one of those
Speaker 1: powers in the West, almost like how he looked at
Speaker 1: un l V in the late eighties early nineties under
Speaker 1: Jerry Tarkanian. It was, well, they don't play in a
Speaker 1: great conference, but they get to the tournament, they win games.
Speaker 1: The old you can only beat who's on the schedule,
Speaker 1: and you'll have some of those preseason tournaments and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. But you're looking every year at thirty
Speaker 1: win team, may one straight years. I'm already counting ahead
Speaker 1: too when they get there. Uh in later uh as
Speaker 1: we we're looking at this squad, right, you know, and
Speaker 1: that Yukon team that they fell to. It was also
Speaker 1: just a juggernaut, right Richard Hamilton's Jake Voskill. Wasn't it
Speaker 1: fun watching in Phila, La Mean, who was everybody's hero
Speaker 1: because his body type. He was a fire plug running point.
Speaker 1: So it was fun. But for Gonzaga, yes, it was
Speaker 1: the beginning of a whole new era basketball and then
Speaker 1: it became how do you how do you find that formula?
Speaker 1: We talked about it all the time. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we do it with the NFL. Of all right,
Speaker 1: here's a team that leads the way. And for Gonzaga,
Speaker 1: they became the blueprint at least trying to figure out
Speaker 1: can we recruit enough guys that can shoot it right?
Speaker 1: And the game started to change. And we'll get to
Speaker 1: another guy who helped change the game in a whole
Speaker 1: other way in a minute. But when we look at Gonzaga,
Speaker 1: you know, they became the standard and still are to
Speaker 1: this day. So that launched things for the Gonzaga program.
Speaker 1: How about little where are they now? All right? Don't
Speaker 1: tell me stock footage of Gonzaga games? Okay, I can
Speaker 1: do that. How about Matt Santangelo? Matt Santangelo? Where is he?
Speaker 1: The executive director of the Spokane hoop Fest Association. Isn't
Speaker 1: it like a summer tournament that happens on a weekend.
Speaker 1: It's a full time job. Yeah, okay, that's what that's
Speaker 1: going to listen as a man, as I ferreted out
Speaker 1: the information, sounds like something I could just do for
Speaker 1: a weekend in July. It's okay, it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a hoop Fest Association. It's not just you said hoop FESTO,
Speaker 1: it's a hoop fest. Hoop you gotta celebrate the pageant exactly.
Speaker 1: How about Casey Cavalry TJ here comes the Cavalry, played
Speaker 1: six years overseas, and now he is a salesman of
Speaker 1: medical devices for kinetic orthopedics. That's good. He's he's going
Speaker 1: to be a guy who eventually invents some kind of
Speaker 1: robotic foot like terminator. Could be I like that they
Speaker 1: contributing to soci had a good surname that would be
Speaker 1: good for the company that he later found true. And look,
Speaker 1: and the thing is, I remember in that tournament how
Speaker 1: many lines. I don't know if it was Jim Nance,
Speaker 1: but I just remember. And the cavalry is here for
Speaker 1: they lead by four time out, we'll be back. That
Speaker 1: rights itself. I mean, you know that's one you don't
Speaker 1: even have to put any time into. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: take the surname and go. Finally, Axel dench Oh, he's
Speaker 1: the lead singer of Guns and Roses. That's his real name. Now,
Speaker 1: that would be Bill Bailey. But don't you come home,
Speaker 1: Bill Bailey? Won't you come? How did I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? That's his name is Bill Haley oh, I
Speaker 1: think he said, Bill Haley. Now we're going to rock
Speaker 1: around the clock to nut we the comments. Now what
Speaker 1: are we doing? Hexel Foley is where Hexel Folly is
Speaker 1: the strategy director at ten ft Tall and add Agency
Speaker 1: in Australia. You know what he will And they played
Speaker 1: dant that. So there it is the Gonzaga bull Dogs
Speaker 1: becoming a Cinderella and then becoming a power. Coming up
Speaker 1: next a Cinderella team from the Odds where the player
Speaker 1: who left went to the NBA it became an absolute
Speaker 1: global superstar. This is Special Teams with Jason Smith and
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon from David Robinson in the eighties Gonzaga in
Speaker 1: the nineties. We head to the Odds for the final
Speaker 1: Cinderella of this podcast and no better way to and
Speaker 1: remember we're gonna have Cinderella Part two next week with
Speaker 1: three more teams. But no better way to end this
Speaker 1: one than with the two thousands Evan two thousand eight
Speaker 1: Davidson Wildcats led by none other than Steph Curry, who,
Speaker 1: if you remember, was Stephen Curry. Wasn't Steph Curry yet
Speaker 1: he was always Stephen Curry and everybody were right and
Speaker 1: anybody I feel really anybody that says Stephen Curry, I
Speaker 1: feel like, do you really know what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: But that it was it was Stephen Curry. Someone who
Speaker 1: got the the copy. They printed out a Wikipedia page
Speaker 1: on him and it still has his birth name on
Speaker 1: it instead of the shortening that we've done. Bob mckilp
Speaker 1: was the head coach. He was in his nineteen season then.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, Curry put up video game numbers
Speaker 1: during the regular season, and so it's not like he
Speaker 1: came into the tournament as an unknown. But still, you know,
Speaker 1: playing in Southern Conference, how good is he really? Believe
Speaker 1: it or not. At the end of the year, he
Speaker 1: also wound up, like David Robinson, a second team All American.
Speaker 1: I mean, now, I think you want to go back
Speaker 1: and revote and go, uh they Kim the Player of
Speaker 1: the Year and first team All American. No, it's a
Speaker 1: better story if he's not right because he was slight.
Speaker 1: I mean, not that he ever really bulked up, but
Speaker 1: at that point you look at some of those you
Speaker 1: look like he was twelve. That's true. Yes, he looks
Speaker 1: like baby Face Dissassin. Now he at least gets a
Speaker 1: little bit of a peach fuzz going, hey, who's little brother?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you? Oh no, you're you're Steph Curry?
Speaker 1: Are you shooting from ft out? And look, if you
Speaker 1: go back and watch some of the video, it's very
Speaker 1: similar to some of the shots he takes out the
Speaker 1: way he could slide away from players and get a
Speaker 1: shot from anywhere on the floor. And that year, the
Speaker 1: best thing that Davidson did was they played a lot
Speaker 1: of big time programs to get themselves ready for the
Speaker 1: n c A tournament. Looked, their first game of their
Speaker 1: second game of the season was against number one North Carolina.
Speaker 1: They lost by four. They played Duke and they lost
Speaker 1: by six. They were ranked seven. U c l A
Speaker 1: was ranked seventh, they lost to them. They played North
Speaker 1: Carolina State. So they loaded up their early season scheduled
Speaker 1: by laying a lot of top twenty five teams, and
Speaker 1: the players all said that helped us get ready for
Speaker 1: the n c A tournament. Yeah, running that rigorous schedule.
Speaker 1: As you you look through Duke, Q, U c l A,
Speaker 1: North Carolina off the jump, I mean, and and again
Speaker 1: you look at taking that beating early, a lot of
Speaker 1: teams quit. I mean, that's it. Not that you weren't
Speaker 1: in a step up in class. But you start the
Speaker 1: season and you're, what four and six in your first
Speaker 1: ten That usually is the death knell. But they were
Speaker 1: just coming together. They go on a tremendous streak, I
Speaker 1: mean through their conference tournament twenty two straight coming into
Speaker 1: the n c Double A Tournament. So they entered to
Speaker 1: the n c A Tournament as the ten seed in
Speaker 1: the Midwest. They get twenty four rank Gonzaga, who comes
Speaker 1: in as a seven seed. So, okay, Gonzaga, Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: here's a couple of cinderellas. Uh first round, two seventy
Speaker 1: six is the final. Davidson wins, Steph Curry goes for
Speaker 1: forty This is not that long ago in college basketball, right,
Speaker 1: this is two thousand and eight. How many guys do
Speaker 1: you see in a game in a season going for
Speaker 1: forty None, maybe once a year you get a guy.
Speaker 1: While this guy at a great game, he went for
Speaker 1: forty points. But Steph goes for forty in the first
Speaker 1: game of the n c A Tournament and they knocked
Speaker 1: out Gonzaga. And this was where his personality and his
Speaker 1: stardom just took over the term. There was no hey
Speaker 1: here's a cinderell. No, this was well Steph Curry during
Speaker 1: the regular season and he had big games. He had
Speaker 1: thirty a couple of times average six for the air.
Speaker 1: He had a forty one point game against North Carolina Greensboro.
Speaker 1: He had some thirty four, thirty six, thirty seven point games.
Speaker 1: But you dropped forty the first day of the n
Speaker 1: c A tournament. You not got a top twenty five team.
Speaker 1: And suddenly it was Stephen Curry because he gotta go
Speaker 1: by what he was Steph and Curry. Everybody wanted to
Speaker 1: see him. At this point. It became a full minute
Speaker 1: of highlights because he was eight of ten from three
Speaker 1: point range and it was Curry again and again and again.
Speaker 1: I mean you cut up highlights at ESPN. How easy
Speaker 1: was your job there? You stayed on that game. It's like,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna give him a minute of Steph Curry
Speaker 1: because this is all that matters. Five steals on the game,
Speaker 1: just absolutely dominant on the other side for Gonzaga. Just
Speaker 1: gotta make a note Robert sokra Ah at t J
Speaker 1: Gonzaga calling sock gray blue after losing to Davidson. Well,
Speaker 1: if you want to see a typical Steph Curry highlight
Speaker 1: that we saw so many times. He hits the three
Speaker 1: with about a minute to go off a rebound where
Speaker 1: he was coming back down court because they missed the shot,
Speaker 1: but they get the rebound, he jets back into the picture,
Speaker 1: gets it right away and just immediately puts up a
Speaker 1: three that quick release. It goes splash. They go up
Speaker 1: three and they wind up winning by five. And there
Speaker 1: is your first signature Steph Curry play of the tournament
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry all those times that we we've seen that, right,
Speaker 1: that is just a trademark move of his. But it's
Speaker 1: I want to see the origin story, right. We talked
Speaker 1: about guys in in their growth and development, and for
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, like, what was the drill that got you
Speaker 1: that catch and release? Because you don't see that, but
Speaker 1: you got you got guys that are great shooters. But
Speaker 1: it's normally not that quick a release. It's normally not
Speaker 1: a not not even a full catch, almost like a
Speaker 1: put back from three point range. That's how fast his
Speaker 1: hands were so waiting for Davidson was the number two
Speaker 1: seed in the Midwest, Georgetown, who were ranked eighth overall.
Speaker 1: This was Georgetown, Roy Hibbert, Georgetown. This was this was
Speaker 1: Georgetown in the middle of a run where they would
Speaker 1: be a top ten team every year and they would
Speaker 1: lose in the first or second round of the tournament
Speaker 1: every year. Like that was Georgetown for most of the
Speaker 1: auds and into the early teams. But that's just it,
Speaker 1: even you know, having this level of seating as you're
Speaker 1: doing the research and going back and you're trying to
Speaker 1: jog your memory, like, all right, what brought him? Because
Speaker 1: Hibbert was it was growing and he played sixteen minutes
Speaker 1: in the game, six points, But it was it was
Speaker 1: just the they were that that good. Who do they play?
Speaker 1: What are they do? What did one season? Was always good?
Speaker 1: John Thompson the third the teams he coach there, and
Speaker 1: then they wound up just throwing up on themselves in
Speaker 1: the tournament. Yeah, and certainly here's another another case twenty
Speaker 1: eight and five. Entering the tournament, they had a seventeen
Speaker 1: point lead in this game, and in fact, it got
Speaker 1: to such a bad point where at halftime they had
Speaker 1: to talk about just going out there and having fun.
Speaker 1: That was the big topic of conversation in the locker room. Hey,
Speaker 1: we having fun let's go out there and have fun.
Speaker 1: And they go out and Curry gets a four point play,
Speaker 1: he hits a couple of threes in a row. Suddenly
Speaker 1: their lead disappears and they pulled past Georgetown to win
Speaker 1: seventy four seventy Steph Curry. Stephen Curry finishes with thirty points.
Speaker 1: The legend of Curry grows, and now you have a
Speaker 1: whole week to talk about him as they get set
Speaker 1: for the next game in the sweet sixty. Yeah, terrible
Speaker 1: shooting night overall right eight kind of thing in college
Speaker 1: basketball when you're a star and the guy with it
Speaker 1: with the spotlight or in the NBA, you know, the
Speaker 1: the result something because we do it all the time,
Speaker 1: Westbrook Harden, pick your guy. No matter what that final
Speaker 1: box score reads, you know we'd go a little deeper
Speaker 1: in the analytics. Here's Steph Curry. Stephen Curry would not
Speaker 1: have gotten the free best like, oh, great second half
Speaker 1: and rallied, but can you survive that? Only five or
Speaker 1: fifteen from three point range? But succeed and proceed as
Speaker 1: it were. They go on to face the number three
Speaker 1: seed in the Midwest, Wisconsin, and Michael Flowers was the
Speaker 1: best defensive player in Wisconsin. He was not really the
Speaker 1: self anointed, but he was the Curry stopper. He was
Speaker 1: the guy, I'm gonna stop Steph Curry, and he stopped him.
Speaker 1: He stopped him from scoring thirty four points. Because Curry
Speaker 1: went for thirty three. He had twenty two points in
Speaker 1: the second half. Wisconsin had twenty. He outscored the Badgers
Speaker 1: by himself in the second half. They win seventy three
Speaker 1: fifty six. It's not close. And suddenly now here's Stephen
Speaker 1: Curry and Davidson who have been the were now the
Speaker 1: only story of the n C A turn one win
Speaker 1: away from the Final four, the only team in their way,
Speaker 1: Number four Kansas. Just remember those Badger teams that just
Speaker 1: grind you down, but they could, they would win like
Speaker 1: a blower, right, Those were those bow Ryan teams. And
Speaker 1: it was watching paint drive. So as soon as Curry
Speaker 1: heats up, that's it. I mean, they're they're not scoring.
Speaker 1: I mean they were like two D and twenty. If
Speaker 1: there's something in the nation and scoring per game. Being
Speaker 1: the big ten guy I was, you'd always cheer and
Speaker 1: go they're not gonna win. And anybody gets hot at
Speaker 1: all in in the tournament. They're in trouble and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened here. They run into uh some hot
Speaker 1: shooting that that takes it over the top. Curry goes
Speaker 1: six of eleven from three point range, the thirty three,
Speaker 1: as you said, and just no chance. So they go
Speaker 1: and play Kansas and this is where the season ends
Speaker 1: in shocking fashion for Davidson. This is a Jayhawks team
Speaker 1: that's loaded with talent, right, this is Mario Chalmers, Brandon Brush,
Speaker 1: Daryl Arthur. But it's a close game all the way through.
Speaker 1: Curry finishes with twenty five points. So every game of
Speaker 1: the n c A tournament he finishes with at least
Speaker 1: twenty five. They have a chance with the ball down
Speaker 1: fifty seven with fifteen seconds left, all right, So they
Speaker 1: got the ball. There's fifteen seconds left and they're down
Speaker 1: by two. Curry did not have a great game shooting
Speaker 1: the ball, but it's Curry. You know he's gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball. This is where things really broke down, and
Speaker 1: it was it was bad strategy by Davidson and bad
Speaker 1: luck for them. Curry brings the ball up with fifteen
Speaker 1: seconds left, and he brings it up so slow. You're
Speaker 1: down to not three right, you're playing while you're hanging
Speaker 1: with them. You could have gone to the hoop, got
Speaker 1: in a basket to tie the game. But instead, because
Speaker 1: Curry brings the ball up walking past half court, they're
Speaker 1: almost locked into it's gonna be a three or nothing.
Speaker 1: And Kansas, of course comes out on the perimeter because
Speaker 1: they're gonna stop that. And it doesn't look like great
Speaker 1: strategy because they were ready for it, and why would
Speaker 1: you not wanna make sure you give yourself enough time
Speaker 1: for whatever kind of shot you want. So he brings
Speaker 1: it up slow, They run a pick and roll and
Speaker 1: Brandon rushed trips. Curry's got a wide open teammate, wide open,
Speaker 1: He's got a lane for a time. Who But instead
Speaker 1: Chalmers gets out on d really fast to stop Curry
Speaker 1: from doing anything, and Mario Chalmers does a phenomenal job
Speaker 1: staying on him. If Curry had seen the fall of Rush,
Speaker 1: he gets it to a team. He goes in for
Speaker 1: a layup and it's a tie game, and who knows
Speaker 1: what happens coming back down court, but Curry holds onto
Speaker 1: the ball. He dribbles to the side and he can't
Speaker 1: get a shot off, and now the clock is ticking
Speaker 1: down and he passes to Jason Richards, who was the
Speaker 1: starting point guard had had a really good season, you know,
Speaker 1: there was you know, looking back, he was one of
Speaker 1: the top two or three players on the team. So
Speaker 1: the final shot of the game goes to Richards for
Speaker 1: a really far off three. It doesn't go Kansas wins,
Speaker 1: Davidson goes home, and everybody watching the game goes, what
Speaker 1: the hell was that? I mean, they bring it up slow,
Speaker 1: you don't see the pick and roll play, and then
Speaker 1: you hold on. He doesn't even get the final shot.
Speaker 1: He passes to a teammate, and that's how the best
Speaker 1: n c A tournament run ends for Curry. Well, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's so frustrating about it is you
Speaker 1: hung with this this team, even though you didn't shoot
Speaker 1: well at all. Right, Curry another nine for night, so
Speaker 1: his shots off. Yet you're you're a two point loss
Speaker 1: against a juggernaut, a team that just ran rough shot
Speaker 1: and scored major points on teams all year long. I mean,
Speaker 1: thirty five and three was the final record for Kansas
Speaker 1: that year, and you played him to a mistake, right,
Speaker 1: and they went on to win the tournament, right, you know,
Speaker 1: They went on to beat Memphis and win the tournament
Speaker 1: that year. So it ends for Davidson, but Steph Curry
Speaker 1: becomes the biggest household name in the world and you
Speaker 1: would think, Okay, he's going pro after this, but instead,
Speaker 1: because he was told by too many people, NBA analysts
Speaker 1: and evaluators, you might be too small and fragile. We
Speaker 1: want to see and be able to play point guard.
Speaker 1: Because the knock on Curry was I don't know that
Speaker 1: he could get his own shot in the NBA, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you get his own shot. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you watching? Really? I mean, you
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be good. So he comes back
Speaker 1: for a senior year to develop as a point guard,
Speaker 1: even after this tournament where he became a superstar. Who
Speaker 1: after this would say, yes, I'm going back to school
Speaker 1: for one year. Oh, that's what the n c A,
Speaker 1: that's what that tell The evaluators say, all right, that's
Speaker 1: what i'nna, I'm gonna go back to school for my
Speaker 1: senior year. Who does that? Nobody anymore? Money's on the table,
Speaker 1: go get it. So yeah, I mean for Steph Curry. Uh,
Speaker 1: Stephen Curry still like we hadn't adjusted, right, it's at two,
Speaker 1: had not begun yet, but just an amazing run and
Speaker 1: still doesn't look like he's aged much at all. No,
Speaker 1: he's the same. Where's this video? I don't understand. Okay,
Speaker 1: where's this video? Okay? So Curry comes back for a
Speaker 1: senior year and he has a great year, averages twenty
Speaker 1: eight points per game, five and a half assist. You'd
Speaker 1: think he would have done everything possible to be one
Speaker 1: of the top two or three picks in the NBA draft.
Speaker 1: You were expecting another big year from the tournament. But
Speaker 1: they lose to the College of Charleston in their tournament
Speaker 1: semifinals and look College at Charleston. They were okay, but
Speaker 1: Davidson still should have won this. They were eighteen and
Speaker 1: two in conference. So Steph Curry finishes his n c
Speaker 1: A career in the n I t and he falls
Speaker 1: all the way to seventh overall because teams still didn't
Speaker 1: know is he gonna be too frail? Could he not
Speaker 1: play the position? And look at what he's done. He's
Speaker 1: become one of the top players in the n B
Speaker 1: a NBA champion, one of the big superstars. The guys
Speaker 1: and icon and he went seventh in the draft. On
Speaker 1: so many levels. He also uh said early in twenty
Speaker 1: I really thought I was gonna be a nick I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to New York. Don't tell me that,
Speaker 1: you know. I thought I just wanted to fill in
Speaker 1: for the nice people I mean. And he was also
Speaker 1: the third point guard selected for the Rubio And Johnny
Speaker 1: Flynn has had an okay career, is right exactly? I
Speaker 1: forget where Johnny Flynn went to school where, well, you know, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: he went sixth overall, so you got to cheer that
Speaker 1: when he got drafted by the t Wolves. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Curry goes seventh and the the rest is history. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you ever do get a chance to the College
Speaker 1: of Charleston. At one point in a former life, when
Speaker 1: I was working in the financial aid world for my
Speaker 1: alma mater and Northwestern them, I went to a conference
Speaker 1: down there. Ok I got I got a chance to
Speaker 1: go watch a College of Charleston game. You didn't get
Speaker 1: to a game. It's like a high school gym, raddling
Speaker 1: the excitement, the enthusiasm like that was. That was like
Speaker 1: Friday night lights man. That was the town's kind of
Speaker 1: shut down and then after the game, all the bars
Speaker 1: and restaurants reopened like it was at least you know,
Speaker 1: that's where it was when I got to go. I'd
Speaker 1: love to go back, but everybody's so nice and welcoming
Speaker 1: and worth a worth a look. I've been too out
Speaker 1: of places where the best thing about it as a bar,
Speaker 1: and I have a great memory of that just because
Speaker 1: of that. Well, as long as you actually remember there
Speaker 1: is the bar still open now that closed twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh that was a great bar, man. I had a
Speaker 1: great night there because they had beer, you know, like wow.
Speaker 1: But the point was you remembered the bar normally if
Speaker 1: it's a really great night. Yeah. Not all right, So
Speaker 1: let's play a little Where are they now? Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: I know where he is. I think I heard of
Speaker 1: that guy. But you know the head coach, Bob McKillop.
Speaker 1: One of his players was his son, so Brandon, who's
Speaker 1: gone on to some great things director International Basketball Operations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's said he's had a busy couple of years for
Speaker 1: the National Basketball Association. Wow, and does he on his
Speaker 1: business card? I played with Steph. That's the hands out
Speaker 1: everybody here, you'll I played with steth. Well, that is
Speaker 1: a pretty decent calling card. Here's a picture of us fight, right,
Speaker 1: Bob Costas carries his mantle overman's got his wagger. He's
Speaker 1: got a picture of him and steph Um. Mike Schmidt
Speaker 1: not the third basement of it, had a lot of
Speaker 1: home runs and he had a good run. Amika Insurance,
Speaker 1: you've got Thomas says, really not the same guy, not no, no,
Speaker 1: d'd uh. I don't know how much d playing that again.
Speaker 1: I could watch the tape because that's then he was
Speaker 1: a pretty good defensive third. But he in fact he retired.
Speaker 1: I remember because he had a Mike Schmidt had a
Speaker 1: weekend where he had like he made like three errors
Speaker 1: and he walked off and he said, I'm done. What
Speaker 1: do you mean You're done? He made three errors? I
Speaker 1: remember that. I was okay because it made the Mets easier,
Speaker 1: you know, the Philly Stunk war. But well, he said,
Speaker 1: a bad weekend. He retired him and Yas and just
Speaker 1: walking away in eighty three, I'm done, mout wow, yeah
Speaker 1: there you go. Uh So, yeah, you've got Thomas Sander,
Speaker 1: a VP of Commercial real Estated Wells Fargo, and they
Speaker 1: got Ben Allison I like this. He is the creative
Speaker 1: executive at Benko. Like that? Okay? Ben Allison? Is that
Speaker 1: his own company? Yeah? Video Production in North Carolina, so
Speaker 1: they do corporate videos and little films, TV commercials, etcetera.
Speaker 1: My name's Ben. What's your company's name? Ben? Go? Wow,
Speaker 1: it's like opener. Yeah, it's a good opening line. Hey ladies,
Speaker 1: my name is Ben. Who do you work for? Benic?
Speaker 1: I'm my own enterprise. That's not a bad way to
Speaker 1: go bet on yourself, isn't that what we're trying to
Speaker 1: preach every Uh So, there it is a look back
Speaker 1: at three of the best Cinderellas of all time. In
Speaker 1: the n c A tournament. Coming up next week, we'll
Speaker 1: look at three more all time great Cinderella teams. You
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