1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports, where in a situation 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: that we haven't dealt with in modern times, the pandemic 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: here has really accelerated the investments that we've been advocating 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: for for a year. From a macro standpoint, I think 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: our sport industry is really forced to look at the 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: business a little bit differently. In depth conversations with the 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: leaders in the sports industry and he sport, there's a 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: good admiration we're still moving forward with part of something 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: much bigger than the sport. Right now, the health and 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: tradustry of our stakeholder is a real smart important every moment. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: I think we're all from a business respective thinking about 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: the impact that the virus is having across the country. 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: In Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio, Hi, everyone, 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: not Jason Kelly and Mike Lynch, and over the next 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: hour we're going to explore the big money issues in 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the world of sports, talk to some of the biggest 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: players in the industry. Later on in the show, we're 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk with Ben Sherwood, longtime ABC executive now the 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: CEO of Mojo. It's a new app Lots to talk 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: to him about. In the world of technology, media and sports. 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: But first, Lynch, you we got to talk about the 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: big story of the week, that, of course, the car 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: accident involving Tiger Woods. He is recuperating, recovering in a 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: hospital as we tape this on Thursday morning. Uh, we 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: of course are thinking a lot about his health and 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: well being, but we'd be remiss if we didn't talk 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: about the industry, the economy of Tiger Woods and golf. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: And I think as we think about it, you know, 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: I certainly think back to, you know, the Tiger that 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: we've seen just in the last couple of years, bouncing 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: back again and again. Many do it, but here it 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: is the return to glory. I never thought we'd see 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: anything that could rival the hug with his father, but 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: we just did. That would be the greatest scene in 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Goes forever. So let's get into the business of Tiger 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: with Jerry Smith, he writes for Bloomberg. He had a 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: great piece this week that really distills it down. He 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: joins us on the phone. Jerry, great to have you 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: with us. So talk to us about the Tiger effect 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: on golf, because obviously the first concern is with his 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: health and safety. But if you are in any business 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: around golf, you know the magnitude that this guy has 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: on the game. Yeah, there's really only a small handful 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: of athletes and sports who are as big of you know, 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: a ratings magnet as Tiger Woods. And if your TV 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: network your CBS, NBC, the Golf channel, Um, you know, 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: it is obviously very disappointing. I think you know, Tiger 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been the player that he was in his prime, 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: but certainly all the TV networks are always hoping every 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: time he does pull that he can rekindle the magic 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: and get up on the leaderboard because we've seen time 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: and time again that the ratings when Tigner is in 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: the lead or near the lead are are enormously higher 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: than they would be if he's not. So you know, 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, if this is the end 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: of his career or certainly you know this takes a 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: couple of years for him to to recover from these injuries, 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, this is a setback for the TV networks. Hey, Jerry, 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: it's Mike Lynch up in Boston. If he never plays 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: a round of competitive golf again, will he still be 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: and how much of a markable commodity will he be Yeah, 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean if you think about um, I 63 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: mean just in golf, um, you know, Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer, Um, 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, they still had endorsements, um, long after they're 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: playing careers. And then in the broader world of sports. 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean you could look at someone like a Joe 67 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Namath or George Foreman who are still endorsing products and 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: making a lot of money doing it, um, you know, 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: long after their competitive days. UM. You know for Tiger, um, 70 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the brands that at you know are 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: his sponsors, Nike, which is stuck with him through all 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: of the controversies over the last decade. UM, Taylor Made 73 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: makes his golf clubs, Bridge Stone makes his golf ball. 74 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: It's it's disappointing obviously for them, because if he's not 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: playing and he's not in the league, you don't get 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: the the effect of seeing all that on TV, seeing 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: him swinging the Taylor Made club or wearing the red 78 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: Sunday Nike shirt with the slush on it. Um. You know, 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot of value in in Tiger being in 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: the lead, all the people watching him on TV and 81 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: having your brand front and center. Attached to him. UM. 82 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean he is certainly depending on 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: what he does in his post career, there could be 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: opportunities for these brands too to still benefits from being 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: connected to Tiger. Um. You know, maybe he becomes a 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: TV golf analyst and he still wears Nike clothing. Um. 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, maybe there is a way that a brand 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: could attach itself to his recovery. UM. You know, maybe 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: Nike could um you know, still sponsor him and we'd 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: follow the story of him trying to rehab from recovering 91 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: from this crash. UM. You know. One expert pointed out 92 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: to me that he has a son who's very young 93 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: and is a golfing prodigy UM in his own right. 94 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: And you know, there could be a potential for a 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: brand to sort of attach itself to the story of 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Tiger mentoring his young son, UM, who is following in 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: his footsteps. So, you know, the brands that are are 98 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: still sponsoring Tiger, I don't think anybody's expecting that they're 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: going to drop him at anytime soon. UM. You know. 100 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: The only catch would be if there was some sort 101 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: of scandal attached to this. Uh, if he were um 102 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: you know, potentially under the influence, but the early reports 103 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: from the crash suggest that that's not the case, So 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: you know them, It really is an interesting time. And 105 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I think the brands that have stuck with him through 106 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: all these years are going to continue to do so 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: and could still benefit from him even if he's not 108 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: competing anymore. Well. And guys, I also think about this 109 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: notion of you know, even beyond endorsements, when we look 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: at the post playing careers of a number of professional athletes, 111 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: even going beyond being a pitchman or or a pitchwoman, 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, being an investor. And you know, we're going 113 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: to hear in a little bit from Alex Rodriguez and 114 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: and he's got a wide ranging portfolio of investments. You 115 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: think about the late Kobe Bryant, you know, starting an 116 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: investment bank, an investment firm, and you know, all of 117 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: the things that he was doing. You have to think Tiger, 118 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: as savvy as he is about his own businesses, as 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: smart as he is. I mean, the dude went to Stanford. 120 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: You know, he has a long life ahead of him 121 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: in the public world. And there are and you said it, Jerry, 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: there there are very few athletes who have had the 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: level of influence on a game and candidly the culture 124 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: as Tiger has. Yeah, I mean that's absolutely right. I 125 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: mean he's one of the most famous athletes in the world, 126 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: and you know, one of the biggest celebrities in the world. 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: And he could certainly make a lot of money, um 128 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: as a pitchman for products for for years to come. Um. 129 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: You know, he can make money from speaking engagements. UM. 130 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's already branched into golf architecture. Um. You know, 131 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: it seems as though he's already started to become interested 132 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: in other things besides just competing in tournaments and you know, 133 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: so there's certainly a lot of things. And you're right. 134 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very savvy guy. And you know, 135 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: it does seem like if this is the end of 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: his playing career. I don't think it's going to be. 137 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he's just going to disappear and we're 138 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: not going to see him again. So do you think 139 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: that would ratches? It's though, as opposed to a returning 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: to competitive golf, I mean, that's going to be priority 141 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: number one to give it a shot. Right. Well, I 142 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: think Tiger said many times that he doesn't want to 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: just show up and play in a golf tournament. He 144 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: only wants to participate if he thinks he can win. 145 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: And I think a lot would depend on how he 146 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: recovers from the injuries from this crash. Um. But if 147 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't think that he can get to the level 148 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: that he once was where he was competing in winning 149 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: golf tournaments, I don't think he is going to um 150 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: just show up, um, you know, certainly. I think he's 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: forty five years old. I mean he's a few years 152 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: away from the senior tour. Um. You know, Phil Nicholson 153 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: is starting to play on the senior tour now, so um, 154 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: maybe he'll play a couple of Senior Tour tournaments. But 155 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an extremely competitive person. But I also 156 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: think he is a very proud person and is not 157 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: going to um rejoin the tour if he doesn't think 158 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: that he can win. It's interesting too, and I think 159 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: both of you have have made this observation. Jerry you 160 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: did in your piece and Lyncha you and I've been 161 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: talking about it throughout the course of the week. No 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: one comes close in the current era of golf too. 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: And you mentioned it earlier Jerry. You know this notion 164 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: of the ratings go much higher when Tiger is involved. 165 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: No one has been able to replicate the storyline of 166 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Tiger across professional golf. I mean not even fractionally. Yeah, 167 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Tiger was unique in a lot 168 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of ways. I mean, he absolutely dominated the game. There 169 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: was no one really who even was a viable UM 170 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: number two. UM. And he also had a compelling personal story, 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: and he was, um, you know, a mixed race golfer 172 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: at a time when the sport was overwhelmingly white. It 173 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: really still is. UM. So there there aren't a lot 174 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: of golfers with his personal story. UM. You know, there's 175 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: a lot of young players on the tour now that 176 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: I think the TV networks and the end the PGA 177 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: Tour are trying to promote and highlight. I mean, I 178 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: think about Brooks, Kapta, Bryce's, the Shambo, Justin Thomas, um. 179 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: You know, none of them have um really captured people's 180 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: attention in the same way. And I just think that, 181 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, Tiger Woods was just such a unique athlete 182 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: and he really he changed the game of golf in 183 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: so many ways, brought so many people into the sport, 184 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: starting with his Master's win in um and I think 185 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be very unlikely that the sport will 186 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: ever see anyone like him again. But uh, you know, 187 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that the TV networks have started and the 188 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: PGA tour of have really started to move on to 189 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: some of the other players. I mean Tiger, he wasn't 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: playing a lot lately. He's obviously had a lot of 191 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: back injuries, and when he has played, his performance has 192 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: been pretty spotty. I mean, he won the nineteen Masters, 193 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: but um, you know, he hasn't been the reliable presence 194 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: on the leaderboard that he was, um, you know, in 195 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: the in the two thousand's. And I think the game 196 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: has started to move on, but I think everyone still 197 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: held out hope that he could you know, find his 198 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: game again and and win some more tournaments. And obviously 199 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: the TV networks would benefit, the brands that still sponsor 200 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: him would benefit from that. And now after this car crash, 201 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, a lot of that is 202 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: really thrown in question, Jerry, if he never plays golf again, 203 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: who's the winner here? Is that the Discovery Channel with 204 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: this new deal, he has sort of giving instructional videos 205 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: and sewing up with celebrities and you know, helping them 206 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: home their game. Uh yeah, I mean that was something 207 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: that he signed a deal with Discovery where he is 208 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: going to be part of their streaming service, uh golf TV. Um. 209 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Discovery off the bought Golf Digest, where Tiger provided exclusive 210 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: um you know, instruction for the magazine. UM you know, 211 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't play tournament golf again, uh you know, 212 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: it's not hard to imagine him still giving lessons and 213 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: people still wanting to receive lessons from the greatest golfer ever. So, 214 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: um you know, his his planned days are over, I 215 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: think that there are still ways that um you know, 216 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: media companies can can benefit from having him on whether 217 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: he's giving lessons or if he's doing um you know, 218 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: on course analysis. Uh you know, I think that Tiger 219 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: will still be part of the game in some way. 220 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Jerry Smith, great reporting as always from 221 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg News team. That's Jerry Smith of Bloomberg. Let's 222 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: turn to an interview from earlier this week with A 223 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: rod That's right, Alex Rodriguez. He's the CEO of a 224 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: new company called Slam Corp. The chairman of that company 225 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: is him Manchu Glotti. They joined our colleague Emily Chang 226 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: because they are joining the spack revolution. That's right. If 227 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: you've been paying attention to Bloomberg, you know all about 228 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: special purpose acquisition companies. Well a Rod of course, the 229 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: former Yankee. He said that the spack world is custom 230 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: made for them because it levels the wait for it, 231 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: playing field when it comes to raising money. Check it out. 232 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: The spack world is custom made for us because we 233 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: have deal flow coming out of our ears. The barrier 234 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: to Andrew has been capital and now with a spack 235 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: we level out the playing field and we can really 236 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: have a big time competitive advantage and go out and 237 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Hamanchu and I think slam bring a lot of value 238 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to founders and companies. Interesting, ham on you what kind 239 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: of companies do you want to buy? What kind of 240 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: deals do you want to do and with whom? Uh sure, 241 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: I'd actually love to answer, you know, add on to 242 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: what alexand because I think that's exactly right. Um. When 243 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: we think about SPACs, it's actually almost a democratic way 244 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: for the retail and then certain institutions to get into 245 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: an I p O before it happens. When you think 246 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: about I p O s in general, they're they're given 247 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: to usually to a small subset or a subset of 248 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: large institutional investors. So there's a lot of people in 249 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of retail and institutions that don't get to participate. 250 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: And for us, we think this is you know, a 251 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: great way for for the retail community and then others 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: to get in there early. And they also have a 253 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: put at ten dollars. So to us, we think it's 254 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: a really interesting product and I think one that's here 255 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: to stay. Yeah, well that was my next question. Um. 256 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about deal flow outs, you 257 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: just mentioned there are so many deals coming your way. 258 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: What kind of deals are you looking for? What is 259 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: going to be an attractive target for this particular vehicle. Yeah, Look, 260 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: we look at about a thousand deals per year, about 261 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: three or four hundred of those where the hunt teas 262 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: are coming after us, they want to do business with us. 263 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: We like sports media technology. Anything we do is gonna 264 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: have a tech you know, should be the backbone of 265 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: the company, and it's companies where we can get involved, 266 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, tell the story, get involved with the founders 267 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Himanchu or I or maybe both will sit on the 268 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: board and be very involved. So Uh, whose idea then, 269 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: was it to do is back Alex. Did the bankers 270 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: approach you or or vice versa. I think Himantre and 271 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I both wanted to do it, and you know, I 272 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: was a little bit on defence. I would only do 273 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: it with someone who was best in class from an 274 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: institutional point of view. Himanta and Antara returned over fifty 275 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: to their investors this year. They're backed by Blackstone. So 276 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: you have the perfect storm between what I bring social media, 277 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: what I bring with my following awareness, and then you know, 278 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Himanshu one of the great investors in our game today. 279 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: I thought one pless one we were ready to do 280 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: not only is back, but to build a great franchise. 281 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Now Himanchu Antara Capital has had quite a remarkable year. 282 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: That said, spacks, you know, they have been controversial. I 283 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: was looking at this study out of Stanford looking at 284 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: the cohorts of SPACs which found that returns were up 285 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: for the sponsors but down thirty for post merger investors. 286 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Is this really a good deal for the public? Um? 287 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: So that's a really good question. Um. When when you 288 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: look at SPACs, it's like investing in any other asset class. 289 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: There's gonna be winners. There's gonna be good losers. There's 290 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna be good specs, there's gonna be bad specs. UM 291 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, thinking about hedge funds, mutual funds, all the 292 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: different institutions, some fair better than others. And I think 293 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: what you need to be able to do. There are 294 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of SPACs out there, and this is why 295 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: I think our SPAC is is so special. You need 296 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: to be able to pick and believe in both the 297 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: management team, UM, their ability to source of deal and 298 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: have an alignment of interest. And I think we as 299 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: a Alex and I UM and SLAM corps, we have 300 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: all those ingredients to be very successful where we believe 301 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: our spects will come up with a great deal um 302 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: to be fair. When you look those stats, I can 303 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: you know we we were invested in certain pipes last year. 304 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: A good example is Quantum Escape. Quantum Escape was the 305 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: best performing SPACK of the year. It was up I believe, 306 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: over seven and has actually maintained most of those gains 307 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: this year as well. So I don't think everything. Not 308 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: all SPACs are created equal, and not all sponsors and 309 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: management teams are created created equal. But I think what 310 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Alex and I bring is a best in class sponsor 311 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: and management team to uh to the spack world or 312 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the back area, and I do believe we're going to 313 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: be very successful. So that is Alex Rodriguez, A Rod 314 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the CEO of Slam Corp. Along with the chairman of 315 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: that company, Hamanshu Glatti. They joined Emily Chang, our colleague 316 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: of run Bloomberg Technology to talk about that spack. Everybody's 317 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: got us back these days, including uh, Lyncha. I'm sure 318 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: you followed this story a little bit. There was almost 319 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: a speck involving Billy Bean, or there is a speck 320 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: involving Billy Bean. They almost had a deal to buy 321 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: your Boston Red Sox. Yeah, that was a big thing 322 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: that we tried to get a hold of some of 323 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: the Red Sox people earlier this year. And you can 324 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: always tell when there's something going on because they don't 325 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: want to talk exactly know, and many of the people 326 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: in the Red Sox are not shy of microphones and cameras, 327 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: but when this subject came up, they were in the bunker. Yeah. 328 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: And it's interesting. I mean, it sounds like a Rod 329 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: and Company. They're not They're not going to buy a 330 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: sports team. They've been asked about that, uh numerous times. 331 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: They have been approached about buying some sports teams. And 332 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting knowing just enough to be dangerous 333 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: about these special purpose acquisition companies backs. You know, they 334 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: have pretty wide remits in terms of what they can buy, 335 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: and they have become the merger of choice or the 336 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: tool of choice when it comes to murders and acquisitions. 337 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: So interesting to see, you know, A Rod to get 338 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: involved in this not surprising. We know his ambition. We 339 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: know um that A Rod and his fiancee, Jennifer Lopez 340 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: j LO tried to buy the Mets got beat out 341 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: by Stevie Cohen. Uh. Don't sleep on a Rod, No, 342 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: absolutely not. I mean he's he's a guy like like 343 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's. There's there's an itch uh there, and he 344 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: needs it scratched, and that he's not going to come 345 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: back and be a player. But Michael Jordan's, you know, 346 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: is a part owner of an NBA franchise. And and 347 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: I think this is the ultimate goal of a Rod 348 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: right here. I think he wants to be part owner 349 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: of a major League Baseball team. I think that's the 350 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: the end game for him. Yeah, It'll be interesting to 351 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: see how this does figure into all those other ambitions 352 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: that he has. I mean, he's been active in the 353 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: venture capital world, and you know, I do think back 354 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: to our conversation earlier in this week with and dominquin Su. 355 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: That is one that has really stuck with me in 356 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: part because I feel like we have definitive evidence now 357 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: that players current and former are not going to be 358 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: content to just kind of schill, you know what I mean, 359 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, and and it came up in our conversation 360 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: with Jerry Smith as well, this idea that yeah, I mean, 361 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: you can enduse some products and you know kind of 362 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: be uh. You know, I think about Shaquille O'Neal in 363 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: the sense that, like, yeah, he's putting his name on 364 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff like the General Insurance and all 365 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: of that stuff. And at the same time, like he 366 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: owned a bunch of five Guys franchises, He was an 367 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: early investor pre I p O in Google, he owned 368 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: some Crispy Kreams. You know, these guys are serious business people. 369 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, years ago, decades ago, they used to be saying, 370 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: what do you do when the cheering stops? Because and 371 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: that's when a lot of the athletes started thinking about 372 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do now when the contract runs 373 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: out when they just don't get rehired, when they just 374 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: when it's over. And I'm surprised at that these players, 375 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: these players make so much money these days, but it's 376 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: not enough for them that I think it's just the 377 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: challenge in the in the need to succeed. I look 378 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: at Tom Brady with his TV twelve corporation, and he's 379 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: on Instagram every single day pushing some new product for 380 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: either oral consume sin or for physical workout. And he's 381 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long long time, you know. 382 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: And Domica Sue with this conversation we had with him 383 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: earlier this week, was just absolutely fantastic. And you know, 384 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: he said, you know, all his teammates aren't just sitting 385 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: around playing video games. A lot of them aren't thinking 386 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: about what's going to happen when the cheering stops for them. 387 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: And you know, and a Rod is certainly a guy 388 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: that is at the top of the list. So Lynchy, 389 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: that's all about when the cheering stops. Let's turn to 390 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: when the cheering starts. That's when you're a kid taking 391 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: the field for the first time. Well, there's an app 392 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: for that. Let's turn to our conversation with Ben Sherwood. 393 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: He is the founder and CEO of Mojo. Been really 394 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: good to have you with us. So much to talk about, 395 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: but let's start with with Mojo because youth sports is 396 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: familiar to I'm guessing every single person who is listening 397 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: to this right now, either as a former participant, a 398 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: current parent, a recovering parent of a h of an athlete, 399 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: and aspiring young leet tell us about the genesis of 400 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: this because to start this is a massive business opportunity. Well, 401 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: thanks Jason, Thanks Mike. You both know this journey. I 402 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: was on it myself and I'm still on it. I've 403 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: got boys who are sixteen and ten, and I've been 404 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: coaching them for the last twelve years and four different sports, 405 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: and I've had the most fun of my life out 406 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: on the fields of West Los Angeles and also the 407 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: New York areas I've moved back and forth for different jobs, 408 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and my wife too. Joyful memories of winds and losses 409 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: and rain storms and snowstorms, and most of all, the 410 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: pizza afterwards and the ice cream did somehow make all 411 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: of the all the games disappear because it's always about 412 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: the pizza and the ice cream. And along the way, 413 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: like you, I would marvel that there had to be 414 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: a better way that I would get off of work 415 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: at five five rushed to the field to coach a 416 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: bunch of six year olds. I have no idea what 417 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: to do on the field, look at the PDF that 418 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: the league had given me and could not make any 419 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: sense of the XS and os. Maybe look at YouTube 420 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: and find something from the Liverpool Football Club training program 421 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: that was not relevant to six year olds and basically 422 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: be left alone on the field staring at a bunch 423 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: of six year olds with that terrifying look in their eyes, 424 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: which is what have you got for me, coach? And 425 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: you've got nothing? And so I just thought there's got 426 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: to be an easier, in a better way, and so 427 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: that's where we came up with the idea from OJO. 428 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: We are here to help make coaching more fun for parents, 429 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: playing more fun for kids, and the whole experience more 430 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: magical for the family. And we've got all the tools 431 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: and all the answers to basically take you on the 432 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: journey from age four to age fourteen, that sweet ten 433 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: year period and give you as a parent, everything you 434 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: need to make this just the best years in the 435 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: most memorable years, which is basically what we all want, 436 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: just those memories that last a lifetime. So then let 437 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: me ask you to this to have on this on 438 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: this app, whether professional athletes on board, are their college 439 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: coaches are so? Who were? Who were the people you 440 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: drawing the expertise from Mike? What we've got on this service. 441 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: It's a it's an app. It's basically a one stop 442 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: coach in the box, and you you downloaded from the 443 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: app store. We ask you a few simple questions and boom, 444 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: you're actually we generate your first practice for you in minutes, 445 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: depending on the age group, depending upon the experience level 446 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: of the kids, and depending upon your own level of experience. 447 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: And we worked with the world's best childhood development experts, 448 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: some of the world's best coaches. We worked with sort 449 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: of very very best in class, so that we can 450 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: give you a trusted resource. You don't have to wonder 451 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: is this right, is this age appropriate? Is this going 452 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: to be fun? It's all proven. We have hundreds of 453 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: activities on the app for for all ages from four 454 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: to fourteen. We start with soccer that's important. That's our 455 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: first sport, and then we will scale over time to 456 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: baseball and basketball and all of the big team sports. 457 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: And in terms of pro athletes and elite athletes in 458 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: the background, Russell Wilson from the Seahawks is one of 459 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: our founding partners. He's an investor and we we recruited 460 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: Russell not because he's a star quarterback for the Seahawks. 461 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: We recruited him because he's an assistant little league coach 462 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: in San Diego. Believe it or not, here's a guy 463 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: who pro football player drafted in the Major League Baseball draft, 464 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: but he's an assistant little league coach in San Diego, 465 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: and he knows the feeling standing on the third base 466 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: line or the first base line. He knows that the 467 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: whole system, the whole process could be so much easier 468 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: for parents who coach. And we've also got two soccer 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: legends involved from the US women's national team, Julie Foudy 470 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: and Brandy Chastain, gold medal winners, twice, World Cup champions twice. Again, 471 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: we recruited them not because they're legends of the soccer field. 472 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: We recruited them because they're both moms they both lived 473 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: the journey, they've both stood on the sidelines. In fact, 474 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: Foudy tells a great story about coaching the Pink Butterflies 475 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: once when she had to step in step in for 476 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: the head coach who wasn't there, and she was terrified, 477 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: and in fact the team lost the game. She was mortified, humiliated, 478 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: and she too feels this need to fix what's wrong 479 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: with kids sports because of the coaches, as you guys know, 480 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: in this age group are moms and dads who were 481 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: volunteering and most of them, about three quarters of them, 482 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: do not actually have any experience in the sport that 483 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: they're coaching, so you're basically walking out onto a field 484 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing. We thought we could 485 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: make this so much easier, stress free, hassle free, save 486 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: you a bunch of time on the front end trying 487 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: to prepare, and give you a much better experience on 488 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: the field with the with the kids. As an aside, 489 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: my favorite used team name of all time came from 490 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: one of my brothers who was playing for a coach 491 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: who was asked to name his team, and he looked 492 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: down into the field and said, I don't know the 493 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: heard of turtles and that actually became their name on 494 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: the schedule because that's what they looked like, chasing around 495 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: the soccer ball. Um. You know, Ben, before we got started, 496 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: we were talking, you know, sort of swapping notes among 497 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: the three of us. You know, there's a lot of 498 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: money in this ecosystem, so tell us about the business 499 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: model and sort of how this comes together as a 500 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: business and the pricing and whatnot. You got it. First, 501 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: I just want to note that naming a team is 502 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: a huge headache, as you guys both know, and in fact, 503 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: in the Mojo app, not only do we have great 504 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: video that you can watch to kind of help you 505 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: figure out the right activities. These are short, fun, entertaining 506 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: videos to show you what you're supposed to look for 507 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: in a particular practice or activity, how you're supposed to 508 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: help the kids with each of the different steps. We 509 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: also have all kinds of content articles in there to 510 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: answer all the questions that a parent, coach and our 511 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: parents gonna have. For instance, how do you name a team? 512 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: And we've got a bunch of great tips from the 513 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: experts on how to name a team that the kids 514 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: are gonna love and that you can live with and 515 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: I think herd of Turtles, Heard of Turtles is perfect 516 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: on the bod this model. Look, we know that parents 517 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: spend billions on youth sports. This is a global market 518 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: that's supposed to grow to about seventy seven point six 519 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: billion dollars by and we know the moms and dads 520 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: in this age group four to fourteen are spending a 521 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: lot on everything from registration to uniforms, to all kinds 522 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: of coaching and the rest. What we've done with Mojo 523 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: is our view is that the playing field isn't very 524 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: level and that youth sports is really divided up into 525 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: halves and have nots. As you know, families from the 526 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: upper quintile upper income families participate in incredible numbers. Something 527 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: like two thirds of the families in middle class and 528 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: above are playing organized sports, and only about a third 529 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: of the families in the lowest court quintile low income 530 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: families are playing sports, which is unfair. So Mojo is 531 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: free to anyone who downloads it in the app store, 532 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: so you can coach a whole season of kids soccer 533 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: for free. One practice, one team that's free. There is 534 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: an upgrade for a year, so it's still about a 535 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: buck sixty a month. It's incredibly cheap, but it unlocks 536 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of additional features, additional content. You can coach 537 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: more than one team, and you can also have more 538 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: than one practice a week. Typically for the younger ages 539 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: it's really only one practice a week anyway, but in 540 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: the upper ages sometimes it goes to two or three 541 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: practices a week, so we we allow for that in 542 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: the Mojo Plus offer. But our view is basically anybody 543 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: who wants this should be able to use this, and 544 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: then if you want to unlock some additional features, there 545 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: is an up sell. So Ben, after all, this is Bloomberg. 546 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: We're very interested in where the money comes from. And 547 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned Russell Wilson earlier on and his 548 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: involvement in some professional athletes, but on the investment side 549 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: as well, a roster of pretty familiar names for our audience. 550 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like we are very fortunate that we've got 551 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: an incredible group of investors and backers. They range from 552 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: Tom Warner of Fenway Sports Group, owners of the Red 553 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: Sox and the Liverpool Football Club. He's been a backer 554 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: and investor from the very beginning. Our lead our lead 555 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 1: investor is Alpha Edison. Venture capital company here in southern 556 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: California and our founding partner there and lead investors, Nick Ralph, 557 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: And we've got also a bunch of NBA basketball investors, 558 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: and we've got consumer technology investors like Brian Lee and 559 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: also the founder and x CEO of Zello, Spencer Raskoff. 560 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: So we've got ut A Ventures which is the talent 561 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: agency out here, and wonder Co, which is Jeffrey Katzenberg's 562 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: investment arm. We have a terrific backers and we are 563 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: just getting started. So, you know, it's fascinating to think 564 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: about this, especially from a content and a consumption perspective, 565 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: which is something you know a little bit about. Having 566 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: you held some of the highest positions in media at 567 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Disney and at ABC News specifically you produced Good Morning America. 568 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: The media world has changed, technology has changed it. How 569 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: did all of that figure into the creation of this app? 570 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: I left the Walt Disney Company a couple of years ago. 571 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I was lucky to run ABC News 572 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: in New York and then ran the Walt Disney Companies 573 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: Television Networks UH in Burbank for about five years. And 574 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: when I left the company, my goal was to do 575 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: something in green fields with technology, where I was not 576 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: having to contend with some of the forces that are 577 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: at work pressuring linear television networks and the broadcasting business 578 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: and the cable business. And I was interested in taking 579 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: everything I had learned at the Disney channels around the world. 580 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: So I was lucky to oversee Disney channels in about 581 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: a hundred and ten countries serving hundreds of millions of 582 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: families with kids young ages UH and I was also 583 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: co chair of the Hulu board for about five years. 584 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to take all of those experiences and combine 585 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: them in an area of tremendous personal passion, which, as 586 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: we discussed earlier, as youth sports. And my my view 587 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: was that that the youth sports ages four to fourteen 588 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: is sort of this huge opportunity that is almost ignored 589 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: by the sports industrial complex. And here's the reason. The 590 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: big sports brands Nike, Adidas, under Armour, Puma are really 591 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: focused on fourteen to thirty four year olds. They really 592 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: care about you when you get to high school, when 593 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: you're an individual athlete, when you're a high performer, and 594 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: the marketing, the brands, the businesses are all aimed at 595 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: that individual achiever. That you can do it. You can 596 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: get through this, and that with our gear, our equipment, 597 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: you can be like Mike. My view from the world 598 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: of Disney and from those experiences is that there's this 599 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: other space that if you think about kids and that 600 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: kids space and that family space, there are huge, big, 601 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: billion dollar businesses around the world that catered just to 602 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: kids and families. And our view was, here is this 603 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: incredible stage of life when your kids still want to 604 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: be with you, when you get to be out on 605 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: the field with them, whether you're the coach or whether 606 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: you're the parent on the sidelines, and when your life, 607 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, can really turn into wonderful time 608 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: on the field with your kids as they're growing and learning. 609 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: Our view was, if you could create a business that 610 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: becomes the trusted provider of information content someday, consumer products, 611 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: someday physical experiences for kids, the go to brand for 612 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: the family on that journey from four to fourteen, there's 613 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: a great opportunity there. And so I set out with 614 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: a fantastic partner named Reach Hafner, who's the co founder 615 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: of the company, and as a product and technology was 616 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: We've built an amazing team here in southern California, and 617 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: we're starting, as I mentioned, with soccer, but our plan 618 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: is ultimately to build up to all the major sports 619 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: so that no matter where you are, what season you are, 620 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: where you are in the US or even around the world, 621 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: you will know that Mojo is the place to turn 622 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: to as that trusted resource to guide you, first as 623 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: a parent, coach, but ultimately as a parent of a kid, 624 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: to kind of help your kid have more fun and 625 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: get more out of the sport and make those magical experiences. 626 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: We call the company Mojo for a very specific reason. 627 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: We just think it's a magical time and we want 628 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: to bring the magic back to youth sports for the 629 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: of families and sorry about this, Jason, of families who 630 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: do not have an elite athlete, of families who do 631 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: not end up with a kid going to college to 632 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: play sports. The ninety nine percent of families who we 633 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: think are sort of left behind a little bit by 634 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: the professionalization of youth sports. We're here for them. We're 635 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: here for that ten year period when you just want 636 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: to have a great time with your kids, when you 637 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: want them to learn learn habits that are going to 638 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: last a lifetime, and you want to make wonderful memories. 639 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Then I was looking that the youth sports have declined 640 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: in the last dozen years or so by some forty 641 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: five to about thirty eight percent participation, but particularly girls. 642 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I had three daughters, they're in their thirties. I coached 643 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: them and everything from softball to basketball, and I found 644 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that they got out of that was 645 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: their self worth and self confidence. You know, if they 646 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: could execute a pick and roll or if they could miss, 647 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: just make a free throw. This whole season was successful, 648 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: and I was always battling parents who thought their daughter 649 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: was going to play a Tennessee or Yukon. And I 650 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: think this is just the perfect app for for for people, 651 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: for for that particularly girls at that particular age. Well, Lynchy, 652 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: the thing about about youth sports, as you've noted, is 653 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: that there's a definite divide between boys and girls. Girls 654 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: drop out six times faster than boys. There's a ton 655 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: of reasons, but you identified a few of them. Some 656 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: of them involved body image and self image, some of 657 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: them involved confidence. Some of them involved lack of female coaches, 658 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: lack of female role models. At MOJO, we are attacking 659 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: that problem head on. We we believe that boys and 660 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: girls should get the exact same resources. We believe that 661 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: there should be an equal number of male and female 662 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: coaches for them and inspirations for them in our app 663 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: and we want to actually empower moms out there who 664 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: may be intimidated by getting involved in youth sports to 665 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: make it easier for them to coach. See about seventy 666 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: five percent of the coaches in the youth sports space 667 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: four to fourteen years old. That age group, seventy of 668 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: the coaches are dead and uh and there there are 669 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: obvious reasons for them, but we want to help make 670 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: it easier for moms to to step out on the field, 671 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: make it less intimidating, organize it all for them. Lots 672 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: of moms out there have played sports, no sports and 673 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: are ready to coach, but there are lots of moms 674 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: who feel like it's a lot of pressure, and we 675 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: want to take the pressure out of this. We want 676 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: to take the stress out of it. We want to 677 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: make it easy. And another big dimension of this is 678 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: just the social part of this. You mentioned that a 679 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: lot of your parents when you were coaching, we're expecting 680 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: their kids to go to Division one schools and play 681 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: playing college and I've written an article on the Mojo 682 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: app and on the Mojo website which is Mojo dot 683 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Sport that basically the headline is sorry Mom, Sorry Dad, 684 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: your kids not going pro. And I think that for 685 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: nine nine point nine nine percent of the parents who 686 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: get involved in youth sports at this age, they may 687 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: have dreams of a college scholarship, they may have dreams 688 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: of the Olympic program, but the statistics overwhelmingly indicate that 689 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: your kids not, your kids not going pro. But there 690 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: are so many benefits to sports besides going pro, Like, 691 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: how about just making friends, how about just get better 692 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: grades in school? How about better scores in school? How 693 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: about less likelihood of smoking cigarettes are getting into trouble. 694 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: How about better jobs when you finished school. How about 695 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: better wages? How about more CEO s or youth athletes. 696 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: So we think there are tons of benefits to this. 697 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: We think that there is a way to try to 698 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: help level the playing field between halves and have nots. 699 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: And we also think there's a way to help girls 700 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: girls play more sports and more moms get involved in sports, 701 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: which is just good overall. Alright, So, Ben I would 702 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: be journalistically delinquent if I didn't ask you at least 703 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: a couple of questions about the broader media landscape, because 704 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, here we're sitting at a time and you 705 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: referenced at sort of what you were seeing as you 706 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: wrapped up your time at Disney, and certainly your involvement 707 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: with Hulu gave you a window into the streaming versus 708 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: the linear world. I've gone through the cord cutting exercise personally. 709 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: Lynch and I were comparing previous cable bills before we 710 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: started this. What do you see happening, especially when it 711 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: comes to the world of sports, because it has been 712 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: sort of the last bastion in many ways of live programming. 713 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: And I know your day job now is looking at 714 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: youth sports, But as you think about sports more broadly, 715 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: at a time when the NFL is going to be 716 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: negotiating its media rights again, how do you get your 717 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: head around where we where we are, and where we go. 718 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: I get my head around it by saying I'm extremely 719 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: lucky that I don't have those headaches. I my my 720 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: good friends are in the trenches fighting it out, and 721 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: I think that, Um, it's a little bit of a 722 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: cliche to say this, but I don't really know where 723 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: this story unfolds and how this goes. I don't know 724 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: how the NFL rights are going to be divvied up. 725 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: I don't know who the winners and losers will be. 726 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: I happen to think that I think that that I 727 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: believe in my friends at ESPN, and I believe in 728 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: in I believe that ESPN has a great hand. But 729 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: I also think that there are all kinds of insurgents 730 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: and disruptors all around. And so all I can say 731 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: his stay tuned, and I wish I could go off 732 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: for you some deeper, profound insight. I talked to those 733 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: folks all the time. I know that they're battling, and 734 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't have any of the answers. But I think 735 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: it's an exhilarating time, incredibly exciting time to to be 736 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: in the business, to be and to be a disruptor 737 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: as well. And I also look at at at all 738 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: the folks who are making the moves towards streaming. I 739 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: look at the success of ESPN Plus, and I think 740 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: that that even the big legacy businesses are making the 741 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: necessary moves to be ready no matter what happens. And 742 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: so I think that the disruptors have some advantages, but 743 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: I also think the legacy businesses have a lot of 744 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: advantages too as they are making some of their adaptations 745 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: to this changing world. Let let me follow that if 746 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: I can just just briefly in this notion of the 747 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: streaming world, because obviously the pandemic did something to it 748 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: feels like accelerate the move towards streaming. And even as 749 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: a consumer, as someone who watches it, you know, obviously 750 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: with a very educated eye, what have you what have 751 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: you made of that? And sort of this this surgeon 752 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: in the power of of streaming. You know, have a 753 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: two and a half year old as well, and let 754 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: me tell you we are we are deep Disney Plus consumers. Um, 755 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: it's been fascinating. I would think to watch for you 756 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: that that disruption, that that you um that you alluded to. 757 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: I love it, and I think no surprise that your 758 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: two year old is locked into Disney Plus. And there's 759 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: a great example of a legacy business. It pivoted a 760 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: couple of years ago and has gone all in it 761 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: with Bob Iger's leadership. And look where they are Disney 762 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: stock is it somewhere near two hundred dollars now? And 763 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: you've got a hundred million subscribers and you're on track 764 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: to to a lot more than that. And that's that's 765 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: a business that that had Netflix had jumped out to 766 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: such a big lead, many people wondered if if anyone 767 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: could ever catch up. Good question. I just think that 768 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: that those trends of accelerated. I would say, in general, Jason, 769 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: I think that most of the trends that we saw 770 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: before the pandemic have merely been accelerated tenfold or a hundredfold. 771 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: So it's not like any of this was a big surprise. 772 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: It's just that being locked up inside for twelve months 773 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: accelerated a lot of different trends, especially as it related 774 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: to consumers wanting to be able to watch when they 775 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: want to watch, watch what they want to watch, and 776 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: have their own choice and really be their own editors 777 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: in chief. I think as it relates to sports fascinating. 778 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: We at Mojo thought that technology would be a friend 779 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: for families, and we thought starting this company right before 780 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: the pandemic, we thought that we would need to educate 781 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: consumers about how great it could be to have a 782 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: coach in your in your pocket, and that you could 783 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: have all of this on one app. The pandemic has 784 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: only accelerated the adoption technology by families, by teams, by clubs, 785 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: by leagues, because of course they have faced the same challenge. 786 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of data that's emerged in the 787 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: last few months about how teams, clubs, leagues, associations are 788 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: increasingly turning to technology, and that when the pandemic is over, 789 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: despite the huge pent up energy to get back out 790 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: on the field and have fun and play sports, the 791 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: technology is going to still be there and they're going 792 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: to be lots of uses of technology to help teams 793 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: and clubs and coaches do what they need to do. 794 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: Most of that, I would note, is focused on the 795 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: elite athlete and the high school athlete and the over 796 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: fourteen athletes, So most of that energy and that technology 797 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: is focused on the market we talked about earlier, which 798 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: is the older, more expert audience. We still feel there 799 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: is this huge green field of of young families with 800 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: young kids where it's not the kid who takes the 801 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: app outside to practice, because what six year old old 802 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: is going to leave Disney Plus to go with an 803 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: app and go kick a ball against a wall. That's 804 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: not going to happen. We we just don't believe that's likely. 805 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: But it's much more likely that you, Jason, with an 806 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: app like Mojo, would be inclined to ask your kid 807 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: to go outside when when she's ready and kick a 808 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: ball with you with an activity that we show you 809 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: how to do that we guarantee is going to be fun, 810 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: and that that's one more day a week that you've 811 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: got physical activity with your kid, which we think is 812 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: ultimately the wind for most families. Like if you, we 813 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: we've lost the battle with screen time, where the typical 814 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: kid in the United States is spending more than five 815 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: hours a day on a screen and that's not including 816 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: not including school. The typical kid is at five hours, 817 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: not including school. Our view is battle lost. However, if 818 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: we can give you a tool free initially and then 819 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: with some up charges, if there are things specifically that 820 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: you want, if we could give you a tool to 821 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: get your kid outside one more day a week, or 822 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: a couple more days a week, maybe even with you, 823 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: maybe even an activity that's really bonding where you have 824 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: a blast and have a bunch of laughs and create 825 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: memories for a lifetime. We think that that that's that's 826 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: something that a parent is going to want to use, 827 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: and that's something that a kid ultimately will want to 828 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: use too, And ultimately that's really the goal. You know, 829 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: My my my son wrote a wrote a school essay 830 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: a long time ago about his memories of childhood. He's 831 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: sixteen now. But what made me super happy and my 832 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: wife super happy was that kicking a ball with us 833 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: in the backyard, throwing a ball with us in the backyard, 834 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: shooting hoops in the backyard. Those were all formative parts 835 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: of his identity and his memory of childhood. And I 836 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: think that that's I think every parent wants a little 837 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: piece of that. Yeah, we never want to lose that. 838 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: Ben is the Is the app launched yet? Yeah, the 839 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: app is in the app store. We've been out for 840 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: two weeks and look from Mojo Sports or Mojo Sports Coaching, 841 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: it'll pop right up and as I said, free to 842 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: use and really really fun to see the feedback coming 843 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: in from all over This morning. This morning, I woke 844 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: up instead of seeing the Nielsen overnight ratings, seeing the 845 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: further erosion and decline of broadcast television, I woke up 846 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: to see that we had a customer in Switzerland. We 847 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: had a customer in South Africa, and we had a 848 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 1: customer in Ireland and I think that we made fifty 849 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: eight dollars nine seven cents. Well, there you go, there 850 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: you go. That will take care of the pizza and 851 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: the ice cream after the game. All right. Well, Ben Sherwood, 852 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: really great to spend the time. We can talk to 853 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: you all day, but you have lots to do to 854 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: build this company. We look forward to catching up with 855 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: you and seeing how it's going, especially as you know 856 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: used for it gets back to business in some way 857 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: shape or form, hopefully as this pandemic receipt. So best 858 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: of luck and thank you again. Thank you Jason, thank 859 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: you lunch. Great to talk to you guys, all right, 860 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: Enlightning enjoyed it very much. Thank you so Lynchy. That 861 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: was fascinating. I feel like that is a guy who 862 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: we could have talked to all day, given his experiences 863 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: and you know, a little coy about you know, what's 864 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: going on in the media world, but gave us some 865 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: hints about where he thinks it's going. And listen, this 866 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: is a media and a content company. At the end 867 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: of the day, Mojo is and he clearly sees some 868 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: big as he said, kind of white space greenfield opportunity 869 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: here and you and I know it as parents. There's 870 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: a ton of interest and can't lay a ton of 871 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: money in these sports. Well, he said it could be 872 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: a seventy seven billion dollar business very very shortly. And 873 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: this thing is a what he calls it, a one 874 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: stop coach in a box. He's got some big investment 875 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: people there. He's got the Fenway Sports Group with Tom Warner, 876 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: who's no stranger to success in the television business and 877 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 1: the investment business, and guys like Russell Wilson and Brandy 878 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: Chastain and Julie Foudy. So it's it's it's Su'm been here. 879 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: So if you're you know, a parent, if somebody's like, 880 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: what is this app? There's a thousand of different apps 881 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: out here. He has instant credibility, which is when you're 882 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: trying to launch something new, unique credibility, and he's got it. Yeah, 883 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: and I and I thought he did a really nice 884 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: job of explaining to kind of, as you say, sort 885 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: of who it's marketed for. You know that four to fourteen, 886 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: you know, getting the parents engaged, maybe getting them over 887 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: the hump. I mean I remember, you know, as a kid, 888 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: my mom actually did coach one of my my soccer teams, 889 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: and I think she'd be the first to tell you 890 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: that that app would have been very helpful if there 891 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: was such a thing as an APP when I was 892 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: a kid. But you know, that's a whole different sort 893 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: of time space continuum thing that we can get into 894 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: another time. The first time I coached the youth of 895 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: my daughters, who was six years old and soccer. The 896 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 1: other guy was knew nothing about soccer. I knew nothing, 897 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: and they said, Coach, let's go line up. And I 898 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: didn't know how many people to put out there, so 899 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: let's let the other team go out there. We're going 900 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: to stare at them and psyche them out. And I 901 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: went one, two, three or four or five six, So 902 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: it was basically like hockey. Three fords, two defenseman and 903 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: a goalie. I said, all right, let's get out there 904 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: and let's go team, and then we went That's how 905 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: I did it, so it would have been perfect for me. 906 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: You are off and running, off and running all right, 907 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the Bloomberg Businesses Sports. 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