1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily ESP in Cleveland. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. All right, 4 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: let's see a line on the first Friday edition of 5 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Cleve the Brown's Daily. I am merely bow. He is 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: the great z in a just gorgeous lightweight hoodie. I 7 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: love that thing. Thank you. I did bamboo good for 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: as so I feel about a long course bamboo. Now. 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: It's interesting, new era. I never knew that they had 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: that in him. I get multiple I've gotten a variety 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: of feedback, I should say varied feedback. I personally would 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: have preferred to be orange, of course, but some people 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: are pushing back on me, like, no, it's great, that 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: it's too tongue. I would have. I think the ideal 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: breakdown of that sweater, sweatshirt, that hoodie that you're wearing, 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: which again it's first I love it. If it was 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: a white, so the ideal would be white or off white, 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: that's the home run color. If you have whier off white, 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: that's the home run. Everything pops. There's a reason, like 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: our uniform, like the all white version of our uniform. 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: The striping is so crisp. Everything is so crisp, which 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: just explodes off the off the uniform. So the white 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: would be ideal. The second choice would be either all 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: in orange or all in brown, and you inverted. That's right. 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: But the it's still because of the fabric in the 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: makeup and the way that the logo and everything is. 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: It's still great. Why isn't there? Why isn't there every year? 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: That's that hard to do. Why isn't more stuff in bamboo? 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I think that they're trending towards that. Um, I do 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: see more and more people in it. It's the ultimate 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: fabric for the heat. Are you like at the point 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: right now? I mean clearly you're a man of great expertise. 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: You're on site. Like you looked at us and he said, 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: bamboo for sure. I can tell the way that it's 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: draping on you. Well, there we go, show a little 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: bit of that. Uh, what a treat for everybody. Now 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I can tell the way it's draping. I know exactly 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: that thing is going to perform. That is the that 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: is performance fabric. I found it so interesting up here. 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm always my wife is always can't wrap her head 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: around it. And I don't know if it's because I 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: spend a little more time in the south, but I 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: am constantly in a heavy sun, any sort of breeze scenario. 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm a long sleeve guy, long sleep, breatheable fabric um. 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: It's the coolest that you can be. That's a while 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: that you see anytime you see, like landscape workers work 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: in the heat, long sleeve, you get the sun off, 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: little breeze air conditioner hat that covers the back of 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: the neck. That's it. That's it. But around here, everyone, 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: why aren't you wearing short sleeves. I don't need the 51 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: sun to have direct contact with me? Is a buffer? 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Why do that? And today's the day, right, isn't it 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: like nineties something? Today? Today I thought was a good 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: day for it. Yeah, it seems like it's going to 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: be warm today. It's breezy. Yeah, a lot of that 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: rain we got spen. When it's a breezy swing easy. 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: You gotta tell that. Yeah, the boys have a little 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: golf tonight, so we'll see how long. By the way, 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: how did they weren't they golfing? It's some great trick, 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: wasn't it Yesterday? They were talking about that. No, that 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: was last Friday. Last Friday, Yeah, when you were going 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to Olympia. Was Sharon just enjoying a little Friday? Yeah, 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: before we left, I just said, just soak up where 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: you are, brother, What did you think floor? I mean, 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: even he could tell the difference between that and and 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: they only have one nine open there they're doing right 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: now because they're they doing the other nine. So it's sensational. 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: What I want to run by you? Oh, let's do 69 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: this out of the gates. Because there was a lot 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: of talk yesterday about a couple of the reports from Florio. Okay, 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: so Florio had two reports yesterday and then there was 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: a rap report report that happened. That's a lot to say. 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot going on. Um Okay, So there's a 74 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: rap report report as well. In regard to Deshaun Watson 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and where we are with all of this, and I 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: think that we've done a really good and succinct and 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: straightforward job. I'll pat ourselves on the back a little 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: bit with this of being very straightforward of where this 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: is with all of it. And I understand also that 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: there is a big NFL beast that needs to be 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: fed and so you have to sometimes have something to 82 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: feed it because you want to talk about the NFL 83 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: all the time. So in my opinion, and you, I'm 84 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: curious where you think about this, I think there are 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: two things that have happened in the last three or 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: four weeks in regard to the reporting around to want 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the hearing. Was Suell Robinson that I 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: view as important. The Wall Street Journal report report going 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: into fourth of July weekend, which was the NFL saying 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: this is what we would like to do, this is 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: what we want. Jenny Brentis. It was in the Wall 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Street Journal. I don't think it was Rentis. I think 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: she wrot the files. Yeah, I think it was. I 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: think it was the Wall Street Journal. It hit on 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: a Saturday, and it was that the NFL wanted season 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: long and definite no that was coming as we know, 97 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: that was coming after the negotiations had broken down between 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Watson and in the n f L p A and 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: the NFL. So that to me was a very clear 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: negotiating point, let's get it out there publicly what we 101 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: want in this okay, leading into the hearing. So I 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: think that was important. I think The other bit of 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: reporting that was important is reporting from Charles Robinson from 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: this week where he said the n f l p 105 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: A is ready to sue if it is a full 106 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: season suspension. I believe, and I'm curious where you sit 107 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: on this, and this will will will address the Florio 108 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: steven A second that everything else is speculation. I think 109 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: that everything is speculation. I do think that we are 110 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: getting some insights into the direction of the arguments that 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: were made on both sides, and in fact, Josina Anderson 112 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: reported to Day that the NFL's post brief was basically 113 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: trying to say that, you know that pesky little line 114 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: in the c b A that says owners will be 115 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: held to a higher standard and discipline, you know, more marshally, 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: that's irrelevant. Yeah, which that's in. It doesn't feel irrelevant, 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: and I know that that was a big part of 118 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: the NFL's argument was that he had brought shame to 119 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: league inn FLP. He said, well, yeah, so did these 120 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: owners who are supposed to be punished more harshly and 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: they weren't punished at all, So sorry. So the fact 122 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: that me that that that's what their argument back was. 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: After the fact doesn't feel like they've already taken it 124 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: away from Dashawn almost and they're trying now to argue 125 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: ignore this thing that's written right here. All of it 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: is speculation. I really do wish and I think it 127 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: would be best for everybody. The league included that whatever 128 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: it is just happens, because the way that our world 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: and our news cycle works is that that will be 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: a big deal for a brief period of time, and 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: then it will You're onto the next thing. There will 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: be training camps are opening, that all the NFL news 133 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: is going to be able to just kind of drown 134 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: everything out. So I'd like it damn sooner. I'm with you. 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I do think that the league saying that you say 136 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: a significant I think it's it's significant in the sense 137 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: that they were planting their flag, this is what we're 138 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: going for. The nflp said it will be it should 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: be zero, which is what we're going for, which typically 140 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: means we're gonna try to get something in the middle. 141 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: So I think that it was all posturing. I think 142 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: what I don't understand is why the the NFL saying, 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: or the NFL p A saying afterwards, if it is 144 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: in fact of her, we will sue like that was known. 145 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why that came out. I don't know 146 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: whose side that benefits for that to have come out 147 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: the way that it did, so I'm not I was curious. 148 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I wondered if it was just like you know, because 149 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: there you know, some people wonder if if what everybody 150 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: what would be best beneficial to everybody is if they 151 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: got back to to negotiate a number, and that this 152 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: was the posturing on the other side of that. Here's 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: what I thought was signific you know, which is a 154 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: different a different point, but similar is that there was 155 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: conjecture that the reason Sue Robinson is taking so long 156 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: to make her decision is that what she does in 157 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: this case will be precedent because this is the first 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: time that the NFL and the n f L p 159 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: A under this c b A have had this independent arbitrator. 160 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: So what if if the league and to me this 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: makes the most sense if it is potentially a good 162 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: outcome for Watson rather than a bad outcome for Watson 163 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: and thus a bad outcome for the NFL, is that 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: if she rules and says it's a zero or two. 165 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: First of all, if the NFL p a NFL then 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: challenges that takes it and then gives out a harsher 167 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: punishment than an independent appointed judge. They're gonna get sued, 168 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: and that's going to be it's not gonna it's not 169 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna be good for anybody. The if she were to rule, 170 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: for example zero, that's a precedent that players are going 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: to have on their side forever going forward in these 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: situations with the NFL. So the thing that I found 173 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: to be the most interesting and perhaps the most compelling, 174 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: was look, once I rule, and maybe this explains the delates. 175 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Once I rule, it's done, and that precedent is established 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: for all further discipline going forward between players and the 177 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: NFL over the you know, the conduct detrimental to the 178 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: league policy or the personal conduct policy. And thus it 179 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: would behoove the league and the and DeShawn. In this case, 180 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like gonna be who the league more to 181 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: settle something so then it does not necessarily become a 182 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: precedent that has been put in place by a judge 183 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: who would then write her brief as to why the 184 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: decision was made. That would be then utilized going forward 185 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: by everybody. So that settlement closes it, and that's what 186 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: they always say that then some of this closes the 187 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: matter completely boomed done. So perhaps that's why it's taking 188 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: longer than anybody wants. If if that is true, that 189 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: would be a positive from the side of if you 190 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: are wanting it to be a shorter suspension. If that's 191 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: not true, I don't know why that that's come out 192 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: from multiple different people. Um now that could be one 193 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: person talking to multiple different people. If that's not true, 194 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know really what is significant. I think people 195 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: saying here's what I want, here's what I want, so 196 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: that we can meet in the middle. It makes sense 197 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: putting the pressure slight public pressure here, slight public pressure there. 198 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Ultimately it's her decision. If it is true that the 199 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: decision is being delayed in the hopes that that will 200 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: foster a settlement because of the word precedent. And the 201 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: only reason I'm saying that words because it's been mentioned 202 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: and that's a very specific legal term. And if you 203 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: listen to these podcasts with the lawyers Charles Robinson I 204 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: think just went on one with a couple of sports lawyers. 205 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: They think that is the biggest the outcome that will 206 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: be regardless of what the suspension is, is that the 207 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: precedent will now be established under this CBA the way 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: that it was set up to have this independent judge, 209 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: that that will make it tougher for things you fall 210 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: outside of that in the future. And so if it 211 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: is something where hey, you guys blew it, you should 212 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: have gone after Snyder and Jerry Jones and craft harder. 213 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: If you wanted to be doing this to the players 214 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: too bad, well then the NFL is gonna feel like 215 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: we've lost our ability to discipline anybody that is not 216 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: involved in a criminal proceeding. Yeah, which, by the way, 217 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: might ultimately be the best thing, correct, Yeah, Yeah, it 218 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: might be. It might be where that where it is 219 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: up to the criminals and leave it, leave it up 220 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: to that. In terms of the Florial reporting yesterday, it's 221 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: a good job to you, by the way on that, um, 222 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the Floral reporting yesterday, of all of this talk of 223 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: reports say between two to eight games and the suspension um. 224 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: And then this this idea that the Browns are based 225 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: bracing for eight just to give you guys an idea 226 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: on how stuff like this happens or even I mean, 227 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: this was a great one from rap report like he 228 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: was his this thing was getting traction last night. And 229 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: he does a great job and he's obviously plugged in. 230 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: But at one point, what's what kind all the attention was? 231 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: He said, Well, it could they we could know in 232 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: a week. Well you could know him too. I mean 233 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: that is so arbitrary. It could be a week, it 234 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: could be two weeks, could be three. I mean that 235 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: you could move to Bighorn next week. You could, It's possible. 236 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Anything like. So it's like but then somehow it gets 237 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: it gets kind of aggregated and it gets turned into 238 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: what we're gonna find out in a week. Well, no, 239 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: that's that what he said. He said, it could be 240 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: a week. And as for the Florio stuff, the Browns 241 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: bracing for eight. The word bracing I think is interesting there, um, 242 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: but the bracing for eight, the way that could happen. 243 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: He could call somebody who says, hey, what are you 244 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: guys thinking? Oh, we think maybe, And this isn't nothing. 245 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: This is just stuff. Nobody here knows anything. But what 246 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying though, is is there is this 247 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: notion of like, hell, you know, we think, we think 248 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: it could be somewhere between we think it could be 249 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: as many as eight. Okay, so that could be defined 250 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: as bracing for eight if you want to frame it 251 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: that way. The reports say two to eight. Who's the 252 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: only person who knows is Sue L. Robinson and anyone 253 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: that she socializes with who she wants to talk about 254 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: this case with. That's it. That's not many people. Not 255 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: many people. That's a federal judge. What I would say is, 256 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: and either way bracing is you are a fool in 257 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: any situation if you are not prepared for best case scenarios, 258 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: worst case scenarios. So bracing applies that it's almost like 259 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: an expectation, which I don't think I can tell you. 260 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't think there is any expectation of anything right now. 261 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: I think there's hope. I think that there is, you know, 262 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: a desire obviously, as we said, to get this thing 263 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: wrapped up sooner rather than later. But I don't think 264 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: anybody has an expectation. Quite frankly, for the Browns, you 265 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: are you were seeking the knowledge so that you know 266 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: what to how to prepare best and I'd say the 267 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Browns probably have. This is a smart people. What are 268 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: the peace right We're prepared, We've got a plan and 269 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: a process to implement the plan. The preparation in fourth 270 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: pois the preparation means that they have mapped out what 271 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: this season looks like. If Deshaun Watson suspended for zero 272 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: games too, four, six, eight, twelve, seventeen, they've got a 273 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: path have to navigate on all of those. They're not 274 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: going to be caught surprised in any scenario. I think 275 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: that it's when it gets down into the legal ease, 276 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: which is I think the phase that we've entered now, 277 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: because it's clear that on one level, in terms of 278 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: the allegations being made against him, there is a non 279 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: criminal threshold that we've reached. Right, two different grand juries 280 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: have thrown out the criminals, so you can you can 281 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: take that out. Nobody is alleging that there was forced 282 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: violence any of that. But there are women who clearly 283 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable through their lens and experience, and there are 284 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: things that you know are uncomfortable. The question is does 285 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: that mean that he cannot work under the collectively bargained 286 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: agreement that is there? And you know, it's interesting because 287 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: the Browns are a company underneath an umbrella, right there. 288 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Thirty two of what you would almost call separate companies. 289 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: The Browns, who are technically the employer of the Shawn Watson, 290 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: have investigated this thoroughly themselves and are comfortable with him 291 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: playing for them and working. It's their umbrella organization, the NFL, which, 292 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: in the weird way it's set up, is that the 293 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: commissioner actually works for the thirty two owners, but yet 294 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: the power extends over the owner's ability to say no 295 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: for my team, this is fine. There's I think there's 296 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: a lot in this, and I do think everything is 297 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: better off when it's when it's cut and dry, when 298 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: there are no gray areas. So, for example, you violate 299 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: the substance abuse policy or you violate the performance enhancement 300 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: drug policy. This is the suspension you have if something 301 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: was criminal either you would not be prohable to play. 302 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: But if you are charged with something while that is ongoing, 303 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: perhaps that's something. The problem with that is again, we're 304 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: innocent will proven guilty in our criminal system. So to me, 305 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: it would be more like if you are convicted of something, 306 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: there's that If there's something that in questions the integrity 307 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: of the game, a spygate, a deflate gate, those are 308 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: different things. The gambling for Calvin Ridley, and that was 309 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: folks as harsher punishment as there is a guy gambled bucks. 310 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: That was a stunning ruling. But that is something that 311 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: is one hundred express percent expressly forbidden and compromises the 312 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: integrity of the game. And that is that's why they 313 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: went the way that this is not. This is not 314 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: because some of the language would indicate that Watson's actions 315 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: had to reach a certain threshold of force, violence, cores, 316 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: and those things which are not being alleged. The NFL saying, well, yeah, 317 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: he brought some disrepute to the league. Okay, understand that's 318 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: been the spotlight. We haven't It's been a lot for 319 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: everybody to talk about. But the question ultimately remains. And 320 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: and they put that line in the c b A 321 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: about ownership. And you know, right now you have one 322 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: of the thirty two league who's subpoena to go before Congress. 323 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Who's he's not a yacht in the South of he's 324 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: in France, he's and and his jet went to Israel. 325 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I think he's been he's not going I mean, he's 326 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: not coming back. Is he going to be a game one? 327 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be at the home opener. Don't know 328 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: how he could feel like to be ready to serve 329 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: him if he was. He's just gonna live Marshal at 330 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: the out of the country forever. I mean, that's what 331 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's like a Roman Polansky situation. I don't 332 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: know what. That's a wild that's a wild situation that's 333 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: actually happening right now. It's happening. No, I don't know. 334 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: So this is a very I think it's an It's 335 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting time for the league. The question becomes, 336 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: you know, how far are do they want to take it? 337 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: What are their abilities actually to levy any kind of 338 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: a punishment? What has been the NFL PAS argument And 339 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: these are things that information about those specific points seem 340 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: to be trickling out, But what does it all mean? 341 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: And the only person who can answer that is Sue Robinson. 342 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: And that's it. And and again what's tough about it 343 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: is here we are, it's one twenty already almost and 344 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: we've been talking about this and in reality we've said 345 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot of nothing, but we've added some context to 346 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: the things that are coming out and what the issues 347 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: actually are at hand that will ultimately lead to what 348 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: punishment or black thereof is handed down and then what 349 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: that punishment being handed down ultimately means long term for 350 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: the NFL, the NFL, p A, and this c b A. 351 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: That's why I want to have the discussion. So I 352 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: thought it was important as the context. The context is 353 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: critical to all of this, and I saw a lot 354 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: of people running with some of this stuff. Floria was reported, 355 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: and all of that is just speculation. It's just speculation 356 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: on people you talk to. That's all that it is. 357 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: It's nothing more than that. It's not any sort there 358 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: and the reason for that is because there are no leaks. 359 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: This is a vault. Sue Robinson is a vault. No 360 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: one knows what she's thinking, right, Like we do it 361 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek about somebody having coffee with or whatever. 362 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: But like my guests, is not even that. No one 363 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: knows it. She's a federal judge. Like it's she's got 364 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: it all under wraps. You know how how you felt 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: it went while you were in the here ring eat 366 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: both sides would be able to do that, and you 367 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: can articulate that has been has articulated, both sides has 368 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: been articulated a lot not greatly. That's all been out 369 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: there and so that's where you're extrapolating those feelings. And 370 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: then and they were just arbitrarily picking numbers that while 371 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: we feel it could be this, and then it's being 372 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: run with and people are talking about it, and it's 373 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: because that's what we do well. By the way, this 374 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: is the time of the year when there really isn't 375 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: much to talk about, so it is something that still 376 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: is something to talk about. And I think the quicker 377 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: that it is eliminated, the better, That's what That's what 378 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: I think. I couldn't agree with you more, my friend. Um, 379 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: we will go around the league some some stuff out here. 380 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I do think the NFL is really landing the plane 381 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: on a lot of these uniform alternates that we're seeing, 382 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: my god, because they're just brain play that they're doing. 383 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Both though kind of we'll get into that. Armando Garrel 384 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: going to join us at two o'clock on the Dolphins. 385 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: As we continue tend most intriguing teams, we have some 386 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: more power rankings to go over. We get into all 387 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: of that. A f C North preview as well, courtesy 388 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: if Nick Shook, so we have that, which is nice. 389 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily on the first Friday 390 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: American Edition ESPN at Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on fifty 391 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: e s p N Cleveland. There's nothing. There's nothing that 392 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: evokes that more than the begging than porridge. For sure. Porridge, sir, 393 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: just a ladle of porridge. That's all I need. Um, 394 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: all right, you saw the by the way, Oh, this 395 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: is what I gonna say on the on the uniforms 396 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: of the helmets. Um, it feels like you everybody's kind 397 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: of in order on this though. I have not seen 398 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: a broncos one and I haven't seen a cream sickle. 399 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I'd like to see that, and I would like to 400 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: see that. Yes, and yes, it feels like everybody else 401 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: is that you want to see? Is there anybody else 402 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: we haven't seen? I didn't even know I wanted the 403 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: black panther helmet, and now I love it. So that 404 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: was gonna be my point. That's where I was gonna 405 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: go with this. So the Giants dropped their eighties giants today, Um, 406 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: which this is gonna You're not gonna be happy with me. 407 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: But I actually think that the manning Giant. I prefer 408 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: that one where the helmet matches the uniform with the 409 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: n Y. I like that look. And it was a 410 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: great blue. It was a great blue. This is again 411 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: we're back to two blues that have no business being together, 412 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: that are together for some unknown reason. But it's lid 413 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: in a royal jersey. It just seems like, you know, 414 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: it's still it's all. It's the most powerful emotion, right 415 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: because it evokes LT. I mean, that's what we think 416 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: when we see it. We think I'd see LT right 417 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: away in that uniform. But the way that they dropped 418 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: it was so cool because they have LT throwing the 419 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: jersey to say, Kuan, so it's a home run. It 420 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: feels like they're they're doing a heck of a job 421 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: of landing the plane and balancing between the teams that 422 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: have great nostalgia playing that card and the teams that don't, 423 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of giving their fans what they want, Like we've 424 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: seen this black helmet in Carolina, Well didn't, but aren't 425 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: the Falcons. They're wearing the red one. They've got a 426 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: red lid, which is good, but they should only be 427 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: wearing those and the Jeff georgis they should wear Steve 428 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Bartkowski's Yes, of course, and the Jeff Georgia, Gerald Riggs 429 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: and the Jeff George. Yeah, that's it, that's it, you know, 430 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, like they're alternate. They are bringing the 431 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: red helmet back, so that's a wind, so they land 432 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: the plane on that. The only one that's kind of 433 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: weird is the Texans. But I would have preferred white. 434 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: You like red. It's fine. I'm not gonna quipal with it. 435 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: There's not a hole thatt they can do other than 436 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: blue back they're getting. I mean, they got jobbed, jobbed, 437 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: and if not, then the Titans need to wear like 438 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: a a Nashville Oilers UNI like they did with Chris Johnson. 439 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: They had them for a while. Eddie George wore those. Yeah, yeah, 440 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: he wore those uniforms. Uh the season I don't have. Yeah, 441 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: that's just absurd that they were able to keep a color. Honestly, 442 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: if I were Houston, I would just use a different 443 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: light blue. Right, use Carolina blue. Nobody, no, no no one's 444 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna know this difference. It's a I mean, if you're 445 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: on that colored thing, you're not next to the right 446 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: or left of it, right next either way. That September 447 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: two thirty two, give me one done. That's easy. I 448 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: don't care. Um who we haven't. We don't have anything 449 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: that I know of, No, not that I know of. 450 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: In terms of a second shell, we don't know anything 451 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: about that. Do we know? If the seventy fives are 452 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: coming back? I see we're still selling them. I believe so. Okay, 453 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: because at one point there was a talk that that 454 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: was just kind of a one year deal. I think there. 455 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: I think that's our altar. They're now in it. I 456 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: think they're gorgeous. Where's Brad Melon sneaking around? Stevie? Go 457 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: get Melon? Figure out if we're wearing a white helmet. 458 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: Get it sorted out that. I don't that. I don't 459 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: think we are doing. I do think we should do it. Uh, 460 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: I think we should do I would love to see 461 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: it maybe next year or whatever. But I think that 462 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: should be a part of our look, and it should 463 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: only be worn with exactly only in that look, only 464 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: like the look that auto Otto war can be worn 465 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: with any lid, but the white lid can only. Yeah, Um, 466 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: if he's try anything, I still have again, Bucks and Bucks, 467 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: have we seen seahawks? So they were in the silvers, 468 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: the largents, little little, the original Kurt Warner, little running back, 469 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: a little Dave Craig small hand he did, he did 470 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: cough it up a lot small. It wasn't Brian Blades. 471 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Brian Blades was in the mix there for sure. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, 472 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: you've seen a little of that kicking around. I love 473 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: that coming back for a gorgeous Yeah. Their uniforms were 474 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: so cool, but they are now relics. So they're the 475 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: same situation that the Broncos are in that the Patriots 476 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: are in, where their new uniform has all the success 477 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: the old uniform, which was obviously better, did not, and 478 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: so you're stuck in the new uniform a little bit. 479 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: The old one was also a little it was if 480 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: you really get down to it, it it was like a 481 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of an odd combination of colors the Seahawks original Yeah, yeah, 482 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: like kelly green and royal blue and silver with silver, right, which, yeah, 483 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: you're that's not a color scheme you see very often 484 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: will usually stand on the loan neither one. They're usually 485 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: the primary colors of the uniform and then they're almost 486 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: never the secondary. Yeah, they're But then when they came 487 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: with their this one, it was awesome. They were the 488 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: best uniforms in the game for it was it was 489 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: the first time that Nike really landed the plane on 490 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: a brand. Just beautiful. Yeah, and it also makes sense 491 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: with like Seattle. I mean, the colors fits Seattle. That 492 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: city kind of all has the same color scheme for 493 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: their teams, so that works too. So for the Niners 494 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: from a Niners perspective, like they already are in their classics. 495 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: You know, the Raiders are already in their classics. Now, 496 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: could you go with the a f L like slightly 497 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: different helmet for the Raiders that has kind of the 498 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: light that Pirate's awesome? That would be that would be great. 499 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: I would like the Niners to wear the helmet that 500 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: de Bartelow was going to wear. That was the awful 501 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: How long did it? I didn't even know people are 502 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: aware that they didn't even make it to the season. 503 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: No, No No, I knew that. I knew they never wore 504 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: a week. But it was a big deal they launched 505 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: it. It It was a big enough deal that in those 506 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: days when I the way that I got my sports 507 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: information was from Sports Illustrated, And it was a big 508 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: enough deal that that, and it was around long enough 509 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: that it was in s I like with like terrible awful, 510 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: like you have a perfect helmet, you have a perfect uniform. 511 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: They had nasty colors for a while, and they brought 512 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: it back to the original. Joe's perfect. They're perfect. Yeah, 513 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: they had the but you had had that and then 514 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: they never wore it. So for them though, if there 515 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: was one Niners one and they do bring it back, 516 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I think at times, right the one that's season with 517 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: the shadow box, the white pants they were see, I 518 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: would like to see a variation of that with the 519 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: white pant. Hear me out now, the white jersey, white 520 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: pant with a white lid with just the SF and red. 521 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna be for that. I mean, you know, 522 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sold on. And that would never look 523 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: like a Niners uniform, but it would be sweet. Yeah, 524 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: that's a strong, strong look. I wonder if you'd go 525 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: with it. Would you go with a red face mask 526 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: on that white lid? I think because it's a it's 527 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: a retro, I feel like you go gray, probably gray 528 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: with because it's because it's a call back to like 529 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: uniform they were in the fifties, right, the drop shadow letter. Yeah, 530 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: so my hunter would go great but that was when 531 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: the Dion warrant and even more, no one's ever looked 532 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: cooler in a uniform than him than one year and 533 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: with the Niners bands around his wrists and he'd wear 534 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: the big baggy long sleeve shirts, tightened up bandanas. He 535 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: had a band bandana. Can you even wear bandanas anymore? Now? 536 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: They have those like skull caps. Yeah, the bandana's cooler. Oh, 537 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: it's cooler. It was an electric bandana, Yeah, it was. 538 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: We were having the discussion. I saving the discussion this morning. 539 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: We were doing uh like interesting programs in the country 540 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: and we were talking about Florida State and landing on 541 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: the coolest player to ever play there. Of course it 542 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: was Don And then I said, is he also like 543 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: the coolest football player ever? DNA? He's on the mount rushmore. Okay, 544 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: how much do you dock him for? Must be the money, 545 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: that's all that it could be. Must be the money. 546 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean that that is it's awful, awful, dreadful song 547 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: is dreadful, the video debacle. So that's a him a 548 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: little bit. But there's so much Off the top of 549 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: my head when you said that he would be on there, 550 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, for me Randy Moss immediately comes to my 551 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: randomals coolest, Yeah, coolest. I mean this is I'm just 552 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: going off. What's like literally floating right into my brain. Yeah, 553 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I give you. It's not on the show 554 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: prep Chucky would Yeah, Chuck, it was pretty cool. He 555 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: was and he's pretty good. And when he went to 556 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: when he was in the silver and black, he looks great. 557 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: That was crazy looking. He looked great. And then he 558 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: goes obviously finishes gets Super Bowl with the packers, check you, 559 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: and he's like, and he's just kind of a cool dude. 560 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Like in person, there's a charisma. If he went to 561 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: the doctor they diagnosed o c D one cool. Can 562 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders be there's a personality or is there just 563 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: not enough personality to it? I don't know if there's 564 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: enough personality. Yeah, Like like Jerry Rice is one of 565 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: the great Like there's just not like he was a 566 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: nemesis of ours. But I always thought Kevin Green was 567 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool with the blonde hair flowing out. Yeah, I 568 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know if they're Vick was pretty damn cool. Peak 569 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: prior to the Nike commercial with Vic and t O 570 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest football commercials. Ever, Michael Irvans 571 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: maybe in the convers was really cool. He's a cool customer. 572 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: They need to bring I know that they need to 573 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: somehow redo the I mean, look, let's face it, it it 574 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: was a flash in the pan cool. But Brian Bodsworth 575 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: was as cool as anybody and was about at the 576 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: same time. Then Bo trucked him and that was ended Brian, 577 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: and that was the end of it. That was it, 578 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: That was it. Yeah, Um, Jim McMahon was pretty cool 579 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: in a very very short window he had. He had 580 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of juice to him. He did very 581 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: short window, but I feel like he I mean, I 582 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say, it's kind of like Don mckowski, the 583 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: Magic Man, who was He wasn't. He wasn't even as 584 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: good as on the Super Bowl. So he just was 585 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: real chesty and really, you know, kind of carried all 586 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, honestly, like I always thought like 587 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: I would always watch And I'm not just saying this 588 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: because because you're here, because you're a buddy of mine, 589 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: but I truly think, like Joe, there was a time 590 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: where it felt like what doesn't like beautiful wife, beautiful family, 591 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: had great hair, always what was his nickname. He was, Yeah, 592 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: of course he was. He was pretty cool. Ronnie Lott 593 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, a lot of people are right 594 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: now being like Steve Young should be on that list, 595 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: said nobody, says nobody, No, no, you're not getting that. 596 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: That's not it. Right on out of town right here. Um, 597 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: I gotta come from my buddy, Eric Hertz said Broadway, 598 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Joel Well, the ultimate Original, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 599 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: that's you go look at the resume right there. Yea, 600 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: you cut the timeline. Yeah that you go go do 601 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: the peak Broadway him and him and like Kenny the 602 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Snake Stabler, like there were some dudes. The Snake was 603 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: also pretty good the sixties and seventies. I've interviewed both 604 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: of those guys. The Snake was everything you'd want him 605 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: to be, just everything you wanted him to be. The 606 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: Kenny Stabler is amazing. Uh. Yeah, there's some good ones. 607 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: There's some good ones out there. So the Giants will 608 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: wear these uniforms um that were them twice a wear 609 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: them against the Bears. For the record. By the way, 610 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: you can't wear them against the commanders because they're not 611 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: the Redskins. They should be wearing them against the should 612 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: be Cowboys, the Cowboys, Cowboys and the Eagles. I'll tell 613 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: you they should wear them against should wear them against 614 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and then if they play the Niner, that 615 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: they should wear them against the Niners, and they should 616 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: have Jim Burt or whatever come out and fire up 617 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: the crowd. Were still with us, He's still with us. 618 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: That that it was. It was like when he killed devastated. Devastated, Yeah, 619 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: that was. The Niners were kind of the constant, but 620 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: it was like the Giants would be there for a 621 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: little bit. I mean the Bears and then the Giants, 622 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: and then like the Redskins and then the Cowboys. But 623 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: the forty Niners were there that whole whole stretch. Yeah, 624 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: they were all right. I'm sure we'll get some good 625 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: people that we're forgetting on this. I just threw that 626 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: on you without any sort of of warning and you 627 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: still crushed it. Will do uh we sorry, we goose. 628 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: We will do the training camp preview continuing. Next, we'll 629 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: hit the linebacker position. It's pretty loaded up. That is 630 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: pretty loaded up here in the last couple of years. 631 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: We'll get you some of the big question marks that 632 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: that are in that position. They're more just questions in 633 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: terms of roles. Weren't anything else. I think it's pretty 634 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: well set in stone. We get to that coming up next. 635 00:32:51,840 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: She'll STI clean the Browns ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily 636 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: on e S b N Cleveland. The Bath Authority gives 637 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: you the bathroom of your dreams. They can do it 638 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: for you in about a day. You transform that current 639 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: bathroom you have into a spa like experience. Let the 640 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: Bath Authority make it a reality for you at a 641 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: fracture the cost of the competitors. 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Look, the fact of the matter 657 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: is the Browns are gonna play with two linebackers on 658 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: the field more often that they're going to play with three. 659 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: And so when you have a top four like this, 660 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty good, is it. The defense is 661 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: designed to be elite on the edges and elite in 662 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: the secondary and have good players at linebacker, and I 663 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: think they've got that. You got Anthony Walker Jr. Back 664 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: last year led the Browns thirteen tackles in thirteen games, 665 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: play more snaps than any other linebacker with seven and 666 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: one guy who's averaging a hundred nine tackles per year 667 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: the last four seasons. He had a two pass breakups, 668 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: two tackles for loss in a sack. Great leader. And 669 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: here's the thing. He was the number three coverage linebacker 670 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus last year, So big strides 671 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: for him there. We know Jason Tarver or the linebacker 672 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: coach who we love, absolutely loves him, great leader, incredible 673 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: work ethic, and now he's gonna be a little bit 674 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: not in a battle, but I do think he's competing 675 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: for playing time with Jacob Phillips, who was our third 676 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: round pick out of l s u In. Jacob Phillips 677 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: is a guy who every time he he is available, 678 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: he plays very well. The big question for Jacob Phillips 679 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: is his availability and can he stay healthy to play, 680 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: because that is what it is. The fact of the 681 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: matter is he played last year in only four games, 682 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three snaps. He starts in Week eighteen, 683 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: eight tackles, a sack of pass breakup. You could see 684 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: him everywhere on the field. Two years ago, week Week seventeen, 685 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: it was to get into the playoffs at home again Steelers. 686 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: He starts leads a team with ten tackles, playing mic 687 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: linebackers a rookie. So he's got the skills, he's got 688 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: the long he's long, he's fast, he's tall. He's a 689 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: guy who just makes plays whenever he gets an opportunity. 690 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: And he's been working with the first team quite a 691 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: bit here in the offseason. Can he stay healthy, So 692 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: those two are kind of looking at a little competition 693 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: for the Mike. Then he got j Okay. J ok 694 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: is an absolute stud Brown second round pick from Notre 695 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: Dame last year, third highest graded defender at Pro Football 696 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: Focus on the Browns, behind only Miles and Denzel. Fifth 697 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: highest graded rookie defender, Sixth best graded linebacker overall in 698 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: the league last year was j Okay seventy six tackles, 699 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: four passes defense, one and a half sacks, two force fumbles, 700 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: three tackles for lost in five seven snaps. An absolute 701 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: star in the making. He's got the speed. I think 702 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: that by the end of this year, what it's surprised 703 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: we alf he's a pro bowler, not one little bit. 704 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: I think j Okay has just got He's got that 705 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of talent and that kind of ability. Uh and 706 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: and so he's an opportunity. He's gonna play each is 707 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's playing every down. He's got a chance 708 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: to be like a superstar. Yes, I mean that's precisely 709 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: that's what he could be. And you know, a year 710 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: two in this offense, it's it's hard to imagine him 711 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: not like when you do. We talk a lot about 712 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: del put as a breakout. I don't even know j 713 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: Okay can be a breakout because feels like he's already 714 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: broken out, but even more so totally like they feel 715 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: like sky's a limit. Yes, so that's kind of your 716 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: to my competition j ok in the will position, and 717 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: when you're in passing situations, my guess is it'll be 718 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: Phillips and and j ok Now Anthony r Get he 719 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: played very well in no situations, so he's gonna be 720 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: hard to he can't just write him off. I think 721 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: he's a leader on this team. I think he's a 722 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: great player. So those when we get into our base defense, 723 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: which would be the traditional base because our base defense 724 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: now is really our nickel or even our dime at 725 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: timesa Taki Taki comes in, big friend of the program, 726 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: physical run stopping linebacker. Last year snaps forty four tackles, 727 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: career high five tackles for last force, fumble, fumble recovery. 728 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: Also a core special teams player, former third round pick 729 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: of this team. Uh who just loves context. So that's 730 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: kind of your big four as I see it, at 731 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Beyond those guys who's in the mix 732 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: to try to make this football team their four names 733 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: probably for one or two spots. Tony Fields, who was 734 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: our fifth round pick out of West Virginia a year ago, 735 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: appeared in ten games on special teams. Didn't take a 736 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: defensive snap, a smaller linebacker sideline to sideline, a guy 737 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: who can play the pass, play the run, good tackling machine. 738 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: Uh and he's somebody who's been in the program for 739 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: two years. The Browns also brought in this offseason Dakota Allen, 740 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: who's a three year veteran who spent time with both 741 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: the Jags and the Raiders in his career. The last 742 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: two years with the Jags thirty two career games, three starts, 743 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: twenty eight tackles, one force fumble, three tackles for lost. 744 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Last year was a special team standout for the Jacks. 745 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: Played basically the whole year on special teams. That's probably 746 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: his path to making this roster. Willie Harvey, who was 747 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: a former undrafted free agent, was with the Browns back 748 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nineteen, active for a few games 749 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: that year on one tackle. Appeared in two games with 750 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: the Browns, one on special teams. Again, been around the building. 751 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: They obviously like him. Keeps getting opportunity, so we'll see 752 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: if Willie Harvey can turn this into a more permanent gig. 753 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: And then there Silas Kelly, who was our underrafted free 754 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: rookie this year from Coastal Carolina, first team All sun 755 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: Belt Conference in one, three or forty career tackles in 756 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: college and and tremendous hair. But we've got four guys 757 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: who I think are definitely on this team. The spot 758 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: opens up the trade of you know, Mac Wilson for 759 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: Chase Winovich uh this offseason, and so Tony Fields, this 760 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: is your opportunity to cod to Allen, a veteran who's 761 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: been a good special teams guy, could be like the 762 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: Elijah Lee of a year agoing And I would imagine 763 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: that if things aren't going the way that the Browns 764 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: want with some of these young guys, you know, Malcolm 765 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: Smith is still on standby who played very well and 766 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: has played very well for the Browns each of the 767 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: last two seasons. Many of these guys all said and done, 768 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: make the final five or six, five or six. You 769 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: might have five and one on the practice four or six, 770 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: four locks, four locks, so you're one or two for 771 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: the and then that's that's that's it. But I think 772 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: it's a solid position group. I think that let me 773 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: ask you this too, because the way that we're going 774 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: to play with the in the we've talked a lot 775 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: about this in the last couple of years, and we 776 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: saw it last year is the season one along from 777 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: an interchangeable parts standpoint, the league is almost becoming. You 778 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: think about j Oka body type wise, he's not. In fact, 779 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: he's shorter than Delpa, but I mean he's from a 780 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: body type wise, it's pretty similar. Like you're basically just 781 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: looking for a bunch of those type of guys in 782 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: the middle, and we have those type of guys in SPADs. 783 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: The only the only one from a body type standpoint 784 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: that that would have like that big size to Jacob 785 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: does too. But I guess my point is is like 786 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: when you have Delpa, if you go with Delpat, Harrison 787 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: and Johnson sometimes on the field at the same time 788 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: with j Ok and the Dime, that's four guys who 789 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: can kind of all do a lot of the same stuff. 790 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely can run with anybody. They can cover tight ends, 791 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: they can cover out of the slot if they need to. 792 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: They can all blitz. They're all effective blitzers. They can 793 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: play the run it right, it gives you a great 794 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: amount of footage, of a great amount of I would 795 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: say versatility and an ability to disguise as we've talked 796 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: about in terms of who's going to be doing what 797 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: on any given snap, and so that obviously that's that's 798 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: a good thing. I was just thinking like, at some point, 799 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, you wonder how many what teams in the 800 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: league could still battering ram you because we did d 801 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: tackles and now we're doing linebackers and it's really just 802 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: the Colts and the Titans, right are kind of the 803 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: Colts Titan the Niners camp, but that's an NFC But 804 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: and we the thing about it is and we play 805 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: well against the zone teams, but that's his zone team. 806 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: So we have the speed to run with those guys. 807 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,959 Speaker 1: The way that the Ravens attack you is different, although 808 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: they do have Patrick Rickard and he kind of is 809 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: a battering ram, but we can We've done a good 810 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: job against those things, right And and by the way, 811 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: in the NFL it does make sense too. It's you're 812 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: fine with teams running if if you limit chunk plays, 813 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: you're fine with it because eventually you're gonna get one 814 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: where somebody misses a blocker, your player makes a play, 815 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden and there in third 816 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: and long and then now that's our what our defense 817 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. So I don't think teams are 818 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: as worried about that as well as much as you know, 819 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: if you said, okay, man, we can't cover, then I 820 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: think you're in big trouble. If you can't cover, you 821 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: can't play defense in the league. Yeah, there just aren't that. Yeah, 822 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: it's there's no question. It's just it's where the league 823 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: has gone. And and I actually feel I feel really 824 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: good about this group. And I think as good as 825 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: j Okay was last year, it's just buckling kids. There's 826 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: gonna be even more of it. I also like that 827 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: he's stuck with twenty eight. Yep. I like that. I 828 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: think that's a cool number on him. Hey, did you 829 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: see apparently there's a new trailer for the Game of 830 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: Thrones thing coming. Let's go. I'm into it. I'm into it. 831 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: We were talking earlier, Uh Mr Axelrod was saying that 832 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: he had a little fear, and I said, fear not, baby, 833 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: You're safe baby at all. We're going right in there, George, 834 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: are are He's already written everything out for us. You 835 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: know the story is gonna be tight, you know it's 836 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: gonna be good. That's what happened. Game of Thrones got 837 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: past the written word. George r R. I really point 838 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: a finger at use or finish it out. You knew 839 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: where you were going with this. Let's finish it out. 840 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: Let's not get a little let's not this can't happen 841 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: this time. We are absolutely in a in a completely 842 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: produced source material world. We're safe. We're safe. Here's so 843 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be beautiful. Here's the only thing that I 844 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: this is my dragons. Yeah, I'm for all that. I 845 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: just think in general, once I know the end game, 846 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to be as invested in a prequel. 847 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: Since I know where we're going, I don't. It's not 848 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be as invested in it. Part of 849 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: the beauty of Thrones is no, no, no, But I 850 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: know what happened to two hundred years later. I know 851 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: what happens. So it's like, do I need How invested 852 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: am I going to be in a story that I 853 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: already know what's coming after it? In general, I'm that way, 854 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: though it's hard for me prequel stuff is hard for 855 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: me when I already know what's going at the end. 856 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: It just is like, even like that happened with like 857 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: some of the Star Wars stuff, I didn't find that 858 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: as like they just weren't as good. Well that they 859 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: suck too, but I mean just I found that even 860 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: with like Vader like going back and like but three 861 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: waiter versus the way I do you know or did 862 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: at the time. Um yeah, I mean my guess is 863 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: they they've waited a long time on it. It's going 864 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: to be I mean, all of the momentum around that 865 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: series from a few years ago gone, it's all gone. 866 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: So if they would have been ready, ideally you have 867 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: this thing ready to launch like within a year of 868 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: the series ending, and instead they waited a couple of years. 869 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: So they they're gonna have to I think in a way, 870 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to start from scratch. I don't think 871 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: this will be a huge audience right out of the gates. 872 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: I don't I think we're I mean I'm in. I'm 873 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: in too, everybody I've talked to you about it. That 874 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: was a Game of Thrones watcher, like, I've had a 875 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: bunch of people already say we gotta watch this, we 876 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: gotta watch this. Yeah, I know, I think, I think, 877 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: I hope so, I hope so, and I hope it's Uh, 878 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: it looks like it's gonna be awesome. And I think 879 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: the guy who was in uh, what's that the Netflix 880 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: show The Crown, he was like the prince prince. Uh, 881 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: who's the Elizabeth's husband in the Crown. Yeah, he's the 882 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: main guy in this. Oh yeah, the original husband for 883 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: Elizabeth in the Crown is the main guy in in 884 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: this throne. Let me look at the castles, all right, 885 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: what's his name? All I can say is Prince William? 886 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: But that what's his name? I don't remember. I was 887 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: always I was always focused on Tobias Menzies. He's already 888 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: been in. He was the later, he was the later. 889 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: He's the later guy. It's the the earlier. Matt Smith. 890 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: Maybe is that his name the Crown? I feel like 891 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: it's I feel like his name could be Matt Smith. 892 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: Matt Smith. I feel like that's it. Give me some 893 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: photos of these people, would you. He's the I'm pretty 894 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 1: sure he's the main targarian guy. Okay, Matt Smith. Yeah, 895 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: there's a Matt Smith in there. Yeah, that's it, that's it. 896 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: That's the guy. Yeah, he's the big, he's the heavy. 897 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: He played Prince Philip. He was already in the Man. 898 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: He's already been. He's in Rome too. He's so good, 899 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: you know he is in Rome. He's an outlander. He 900 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: is bad in outlander. Okay, well as bad as it gets. Well, 901 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I may have a trump card for you, 902 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: because he's brutus in Rome, a too brute exactly, Armando. 903 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: So garrow up next. As we continue with the ten 904 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: most Intriguing teams for two, you listen to Cleveland Browns 905 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: Daily Ones and Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily on e s 906 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: p N Cleveland. Runky was recycling, family owned and operated. 907 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: Whether you join them as a customer as an employee, 908 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: will become part of the family. Is at runkey dot 909 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 1: com to learn more. As we continue with ten most 910 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: Intriguing Teams of two, we center on the Miami Dolphins, 911 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: and we talked about the Dolphins. We head to Miami 912 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: and we talked to a great friend of the program, 913 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: Amndo Garo, NFL reporter at out Kick and typically when 914 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: we when we have a conversation he's like the last 915 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: few times I had a conversation with you, we are 916 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: in the dead of winter and you're like sipping some 917 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: sort of cocktail pool. Yeah, that's right. So what's what 918 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: do we What do you got for us today, buddy? Yeah? 919 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: Not not the pool day today, guys. Um, Honestly, if 920 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: I were to look outside at my pool, it's the 921 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: water is boiling, and you know, I'm staying. I'm staying 922 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: in the a C. I'm doing the smart stuff. Armando. 923 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: We well, we'll talk a lot we can get to 924 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: with you. Obviously from the NFL standpo, let's let's start 925 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and and the reason that they are 926 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 1: on our list of ten most intriguing teams. It feels 927 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: like they have everything except obviously, depending on your belief 928 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: into a quarterback, what is your belief into a quarterback 929 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: and is it different from the Dolphins organization's belief into 930 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Yeah, Honestly, another way to put it is 931 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: they have everything except the thing, Um, and the thing 932 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: is whether, to a tongue of by law, is elite 933 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: or not. As of right now, he hasn't been He 934 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: hasn't suggested that he's gonna be Um. Now, the Dolphins 935 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: believe in him. They believe that he can be good 936 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: enough and maybe even better than that. But look, uh, 937 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. And from what I've seen, 938 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: unless two Up comes back from the off season at 939 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: six ft two or three, he's six ft and maybe 940 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: two five pounds, he's two seventeen and maybe he grew 941 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: a much stronger arm. He didn't. Then Honestly, when things 942 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: get you know, heavy and hectic, uh, and the Dolphins 943 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: are behind, which tends to happen a lot, and he 944 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: has to step up and be that he row. Um, 945 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't think that's gonna be 946 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: a great moment for for two US. So we will see. 947 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: It's it's all a matter of, uh, can they get 948 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: a running game together that that supports him. But again, 949 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: what are we talking about him being not the guy 950 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: but one of the guys. And he's playing in a 951 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: division where Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills is undoubtedly 952 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: a guy. So that's the problem for the Dolphins right now. Oh, 953 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And I mean we were talking yesterday 954 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: that if you take you know, guys who a lot 955 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 1: of people would consider to be let's say, consensus top 956 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the league plopped them on this roster. 957 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to think of the Dolphins being 958 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: anything other than, if not the super Bowl favorite, certainly 959 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: a super Bowl favorite. And so there is a lot 960 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: of pressure on him. Now. They brought in what they 961 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: considered to be an offensive genius and a guy who 962 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: was a wide receiver coach that I got to know 963 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: in his time with the Browns back in two thousand 964 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: and fourteen on Kyle Shanahan staff Mike McDaniel. Give us 965 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: your initial impressions of Mike McDaniel and what he is 966 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: going to bring to this organization, to this offense, and 967 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: really just to this football team. Now, Mike is an 968 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: interesting dude. He's different. Why are different? Right? Uh? I 969 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: mean the first time that I met him, he spent 970 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: ten minutes talking about my glasses, and I'm like, okay, 971 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: this is not you know, I've had conversations with Don 972 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: Shula and Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcel and they never 973 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: really mentioned my glasses. But whatever, and so he he 974 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 1: is a different kind of guy and that's not necessarily bad. 975 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: Here's what from a football context is interesting to me. 976 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: He comes from a system and brings with him a 977 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: system that is going to be primarily a run first 978 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: type of system. Um, bully the defense, get them down, 979 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: get them on their on their heels, and kind of 980 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: then throw off that with play action and RPO and 981 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: so forth. Interesting in that that's what you do when 982 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback is not a star. Uh, Interesting in that 983 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: the NFL is a passing league. Uh, and they're gonna 984 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: be run first. Uh. So maybe it works, maybe it 985 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: pays major dividends, but it is uh not exactly the 986 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 1: offense to jore in the NFL, right now, that's not 987 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: the approach that most teams are taking. You're right, And 988 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: it's an offense that I think is adaptable to the 989 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: quality of its quarterback. I mean it kind of a 990 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: variation what McVeigh does. They had Goffin, so they were 991 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: more on the run with Girly. You get Stafford and 992 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: they're able to throw it all over the yard. And 993 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: you even think about, you know, when Kyle was in 994 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: Atlanta with Matt ryany wins the MVP of the league 995 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: that year in this style. And so my question is 996 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: you you talk about that that is the notion and 997 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 1: that is really the notion because of Ta quite frankly, 998 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: and yet this team drafted Waddle in the first round 999 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: last year, traded for Tyrete Hill, signed Cedric Wilson, and 1000 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: they franchise Mike Kasicki. Those are four guys who want 1001 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: the football to come to them via the past. How 1002 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: are they going to keep those guys happy? That's number one? 1003 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: And number two? Is this the situation? And I referenced, 1004 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, golf and Stafford on purpose there that this 1005 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: feels like the team that is the next ready made 1006 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: team to say let's drop a quarterback in here and 1007 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: let's go win a championship. That's correct. And because if 1008 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: Ta doesn't perform in year three under the new head 1009 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: coach with the very much improved roster, uh uh, there's 1010 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: not gonna be a year four where he's starter. And 1011 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens that that's not gonna happen. Um, 1012 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: you already know, and I've confirmed through various sources that 1013 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: the Dolphins this offseason and last offseason tried to get 1014 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady to come to Miami. And I'm not saying 1015 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna do that after this season. I'm not saying 1016 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: that by the way that Sean Payton, who they also 1017 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: tried to hire, is going to come to Miami after 1018 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: this season. But this is a roster and a team 1019 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: stands the quarterback position that he's made for playoff and 1020 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: postseason and maybe even championship expectations. And the one or 1021 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: two things that would keep them from that is the 1022 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: star quarterback and the owner. Stephen Ross has already had 1023 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: his story. You have chasing star a star quarterback to 1024 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: no avail, but that doesn't mean he stops. And so 1025 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the warning that to a tongue of by 1026 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: law and to a lesser degree Mike McDaniel have to 1027 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: live with this year. How do you think Mike McDaniel 1028 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: handles all of this? I mean, Tyree Hill has got 1029 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: a lot to say recently and I don't remember being 1030 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: quite so toking he was in Kansas City. He's had 1031 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: a lot to say this offseason. You have this Brady 1032 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: cloud looming, uh, the Sean Payton stuff, all that stuff. 1033 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he reads all this is a smart guy. 1034 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: He sees it all. Just your your read on him 1035 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: being able to navigate this. I don't think he's all 1036 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: that concerned about it because Frankly, there's not a whole 1037 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: lot he could do about it. Uh. The only thing 1038 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: that he can answer with is wins and losses. And 1039 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: if he's got enough of the the former to overcome 1040 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: the ladder, then Sean Payton shadow won't matter. Tom brady 1041 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: possibilities won't matter. Uh, And what everybody else thinks or 1042 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: says won't matter. What matters is can Mike McDaniel keep 1043 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: that roster you mentioned all those guys that want the football? 1044 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: Can he keep them all in line? Uh? If to 1045 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: uh is not exactly the Patrick Mahomes type that Tyree 1046 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: Hill seems to think he's gonna be more accurate. I 1047 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: mean really really, But you know it's interesting because teams 1048 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: that accomplished and have accomplished and have guys, they don't 1049 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: need to talk up their guys. We know there's no 1050 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: one in Buffalo saying, oh, Josh Allen's really good. You 1051 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: know why, because everybody knows he's It's like, no kidding. 1052 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City is not going, hey, no, we've got to 1053 00:54:54,680 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: defend our guy, Patrick Mahomes. No, Patrick Mahomes has his 1054 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 1: body of work defends him quite well, thank you very much. 1055 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: And so when you're talking up your guy. There's a 1056 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 1: reason for that. Yeah, certainly you mentioned the Brady and 1057 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: remember at the combine, like we started to get all 1058 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 1: this whispers about about Brady there and Peyton and all 1059 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: of that stuff. How close Armando, do you think that 1060 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 1: puzzle was ever ever got to being put all the 1061 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: way together. I talked to an assistant coach that Sean 1062 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,720 Speaker 1: Payton reached out too, and he was already shopping for 1063 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 1: uh living arrangements in South Florida to come with Sean Payton. Wow, 1064 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: Well it was the roadblock, just the bucks, just an 1065 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: unwillingness to move off of Brady. Is that what stopped it? No, 1066 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 1: the roadblock was the suit filed by Brian Flores, former 1067 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: head coach, alleging racial discrimination and oh, by the way, 1068 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: uh integrity of the game issues against Stephen Ross. I 1069 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: mean Brian Flores. That lawsuit alleges that in Brian Flores's 1070 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: first year as the head coach of the Dolphins, that 1071 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: Stephen Ross offered him a hundred thousand dollars if he 1072 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: would lose games, a hundred thousand dollars per loss, so 1073 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: that the Dolphins could then in the draft have the 1074 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: best pick to pick the best quarterbacks. They didn't, and 1075 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow went to Cincinnati, and Cincinnati went to the 1076 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, and the Dolphins got to Uh 1077 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 1: what's interesting in that is they got to a number five. 1078 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert went number six. Yeah, I think every everybody 1079 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: who picked would brother Justin. Yeah, he looks pretty good. 1080 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: There's amazing, Like how how of course that all that 1081 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: was all there? It's remarkable. It's an incredible what if, 1082 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: and certainly for for this team here. Uh, we just 1083 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: wanted to kind of transition off the Dolphins a little bit. 1084 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: I think we all know the stakes. It's a great roster. 1085 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: Will see what happens with two of there. And you've 1086 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: got some of our guys that we like there where 1087 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: he mostarred Emmanuel Ogba, Sheldrick RedWine, as I'm looking at 1088 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: five Star Porter Gustin's and former Browns, So that'll be 1089 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: fun with those guys. But I just wanted to ask 1090 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: you about Jacoby Brissette, who did spend some time with 1091 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: the Dolphins last year and has already made a very 1092 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: good impression here. Obviously a very well liked and respected guy. 1093 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: Uh if in the event, and we all know it's 1094 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: out there, the looming punishment for Deshaun Watson. You know, 1095 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: if Jacoby's got to come in and play a couple 1096 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: of games, what are the Browns getting? And with a 1097 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: strong roster around him, can can he get the job done? 1098 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: Getting a great leader, a guy who's going to do 1099 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: the work. He's a professional and a consummate professional. He 1100 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: knows what the position entails, he knows what the assignment 1101 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: is going to be, and he knows, uh, you know, 1102 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: his his flaws and his strengths, and I think he's 1103 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna try the best that he can to play to 1104 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: those last year not so great with the Dolphins. I 1105 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: think he completed like the passes that he attempted with 1106 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, five touchdowns for interceptions. But it wasn't a 1107 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: great situation either in that the team started out I 1108 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: think oh and seven or oh and eight and so, 1109 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: and yes he was part of that um but uh, 1110 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: under different circumstances with a better roster around him, I 1111 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: think as a backup piece, he's fine. He's probably you know, 1112 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: top top third percentile of backups in the NFL right now. 1113 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: Now if he has to be your starter the entire season, 1114 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: if that suspension looms, that is looming goes the entire year. Um, 1115 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm not loving that prospect. Sure ye do you think, Armanda? 1116 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: Do you think? And I have no idea and if 1117 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: it's even feasible. But as as we were discussing all 1118 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: of this with two and this ready made roster with Miami, 1119 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: would they be would they kick the tires on Garoppolo 1120 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: at all? If if this didn't feel right the first 1121 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 1: month of camp or they do you think that's something 1122 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen this year? I mean McDaniel knows him. 1123 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: That's why. I mean, yeah, a lot of connections right. 1124 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: The problem there is number one, Uh, Jimmy is you know, 1125 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: not going to be really ready to and compete really 1126 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: until mid to late August. And yes he would know 1127 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: the system in Miami, but how much better Again, the 1128 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: Dolphins need an elite quarterback. They are I can't stress 1129 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: this enough. They are in a division with a top 1130 00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: three quarterback and you don't fight that fire with the 1131 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: garden hose of Jimmy Garoppolo, who solid okay, but is 1132 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: the elite. There's a reason that the San Francisco forty 1133 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Niners paid a premium to go and get tray Lances 1134 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: because they saw upside in Trey Lance that they did 1135 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: not see in Jimmy Garoppolo after years of knowing Jimmy 1136 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Garoppolo and him helping them get to a Super Bowl. 1137 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: So they saw his shortcomings and they're more than eager 1138 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: to trade him away. If they can't, well, I'll just 1139 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I'll get you out here on this. And just because 1140 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: I know he's listening, what would our our mutual friend 1141 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and in the prime of his career, Bernie Cozar doing 1142 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: this system, with this type of this type of weaponry, 1143 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy Uh, you know, look, guys, Bernie Kosar was a 1144 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: stud at the University of Miami. He was a stud 1145 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. Fine would be a stud in 1146 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: the NFL today. Weird, funky delivery, uh motion, not mobile, 1147 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: smart as anything, and an awesome, awesome person and leader. 1148 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Just the best and probably the coolest press conference of 1149 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: a college football player has ever had. What he showed 1150 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: up to that press conference in Miami to say he 1151 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: was going in the supplemental draft. That was probably as 1152 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: cool as you I've ever seen anyone dressed for a 1153 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: press conference with that cut off and yes, and the 1154 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: short a short shorts. Yep, nailed it. Legend legend. Sorry, 1155 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 1: he's Miami. That's what that was all about. That's right, 1156 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: my friend. Great talk to you, buddy. Alright, guys's my 1157 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: pleasure the Greater Amando so Grol joining us there on 1158 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the hotline. That's great. That is great. I love the 1159 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: fact that it's we're within twelve seconds of starting the interview. 1160 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Bernie's texting all of all of us in a in 1161 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,439 Speaker 1: a group. Yeah, that's great. That's very very great. Uh. Look, 1162 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: so the big takeaways, Well, we get to the big 1163 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: takeaways because there's one other thing that I'm curious about. 1164 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: I want to get your opinion on this. We'll get 1165 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: into that coming up next. You listen to Clean and 1166 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily sp N Cleveland. All right, two, 1167 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to ask you about 1168 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the after the conversation with conversations with the Great Armando 1169 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: so Garrel. Okay, Number one, did you did you realize 1170 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: it was that close? Well, there was a lot of 1171 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: talk about with Brady, but there was I'll tell you 1172 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: what in the Bay Area they would be saying that 1173 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: was San Francisco. We there was a lot I thought 1174 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: at the Combine Francisco. It was what it felt like 1175 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: at the CO So this could have been an under 1176 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: the radar thing and and yeah, I mean, it doesn't 1177 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: surprise me. The Sean Payton thing also doesn't surprise me 1178 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: that what the thing that I thought was the strangest 1179 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: is that Mike McDaniel has somehow beyond like a one 1180 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: year trial after what happened with Flores. It just doesn't 1181 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: feel like that's real to me. Now. It feels to 1182 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: me like the page has kind of been turned off 1183 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: of that and now we're going in another direction because 1184 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: it didn't work out, and they've been Stephen Ross has 1185 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: been ultra active in this pursuit. They were at the 1186 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: they were at the eleventh hour with the Shawn in 1187 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: the season last year with the Texans, so they were 1188 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: all in on that, um. They were in on the 1189 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: they were in on trying to pursue the Brady thing um. 1190 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: And so that that was interesting though that how far 1191 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: along the line that went with with Peyton going to 1192 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Miami with Brady. The other thing that I was curious 1193 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: about is it was my understanding that the Bucks wouldn't 1194 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: release Brady, that they weren't going to let him up 1195 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: because hes sill under contract, like they would have to 1196 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: give him up to go play somewhere else, and that 1197 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: they weren't crazy about doing that. And then remember, all 1198 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Brady was in Manchester United meeting Christiano 1199 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Ronalda with his kid, and he thought, well, okay, fences 1200 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: have been mended. I'll how you do that. Um So 1201 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the next thing I want to ask you is, Okay, 1202 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: so they they're an elite quarterback away, who is it? 1203 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 1: Brady at What's crazy to me is I think that 1204 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: they would have been way better off, and Russell Wilson 1205 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: would have been better off had he gone to Miami 1206 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: than gone to Denver. I agree. I think the division 1207 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: is far easier, and I think the roster is better 1208 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,439 Speaker 1: and it's Miami. Yeah, Weather's better. Yeah, yeah, I agree 1209 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you. I'm surprised that they 1210 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: would rather live in Denver, but but they don't have 1211 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: the assets to do that now because they use all 1212 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: their assets to go get tyree Kill. Yeah. So they 1213 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: they're basically they need like a true free agent quarterback, 1214 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: which doesn't it doesn't exist. You're never gonna get one 1215 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: of those. Well, the funny thing is they say unless 1216 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers and and and you know, we were going to 1217 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: get into if we had Armando the whole time we 1218 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: would talk about because it was a great segue off 1219 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 1: of a point you made the other day, is that, Yeah, 1220 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: I know, Jimmy g has banged up, but the fact 1221 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: of the matter is, in the last two seasons in 1222 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: which he was healthy, he's played in an NFC championship 1223 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: game and in a Super Bowl. I don't understand the 1224 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: slander of him and the act that because he's he's 1225 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: not one of those top ten guys. There's something about 1226 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: the other thing. Either he's not he's not. You know, 1227 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: we talked about category. We talked a lot about the 1228 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: golf wins. We talked about that with Baker, Like all 1229 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: of those guys that are kind of like good enough 1230 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: that you're not going to go three and fourteen but 1231 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: not you know, too good to go three and fourteen, 1232 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: but not good enough to go thirteen and four. Garoppolo 1233 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: is good enough to go thirteen and four. He's done 1234 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 1: it like they you know, like he's actually done it. 1235 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Like that's the difference, right, And that's the something like 1236 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't love that. I don't love when 1237 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: he gets lumped in with those other guys because he's 1238 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: not that. He's more accomplished than that. His issue has 1239 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: been health. Like, I'm not out here claiming he's mahomes 1240 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: are Alan or anything. He's not that. I'm not claiming that. 1241 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: But he's also better than a lot of what he's 1242 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: being compared to. He is and he's able to play 1243 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: a very effective and efficient brand of football. And he 1244 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: has also shown the ability to make big throws in 1245 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: big moments. That's the thing about it. So Garoppolo the 1246 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years, seventy completions basically sixty completions, forty 1247 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, twenty five picks. So he's not gonna like 1248 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: light it up in terms of, you know, throwing for 1249 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 1: but he throws for two or fift yards a game. 1250 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: He's a very solid coreback quarterback, ring one o two 1251 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: nine point seven in his last two full seasons. He's 1252 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: a very solid player. He is better than that other group. 1253 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: I think he's on the Matt Ryan level, but maybe 1254 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: because he's younger, maybe a little bit better than Matt 1255 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 1: Ryan at this point, but certainly in that same world. 1256 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: His shoulders what's prevented him from finding something? Clearly, the 1257 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 1: the Niners thought that they could upgrade on him. But 1258 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppol's guy absolutely can play winning football. He's done it. 1259 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean in his lad He's nineteen and nine in 1260 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,919 Speaker 1: his last two healthy seasons and he has a thirty 1261 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: in three to your points. Well, that's why I asked 1262 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: him about it, because, like to me, there's an enormous 1263 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: difference between to A and Garopolo. Huge. I agree, and 1264 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I think with wildly different positions. Right with Garoppolo, anything 1265 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: can happen. Is he gonna Things could still go well 1266 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: and he could beat and as he has beaten. I 1267 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: mean they beat the Rams to get into the playoffs 1268 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: last year in a game that in a shootout. He 1269 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: beat the Bengals in Cincinnati in a shootout where he 1270 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: had to drive the length of field and produce a 1271 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: touchdown in the cold, and he did it. So he 1272 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: absolutely is capable, um, and I think he'd be a 1273 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 1: great fit, honestly on that team with their skill set. 1274 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Is he gonna throw the bombs of Tyree kill? Nobody's 1275 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: very accurate, and he provides he throws a good enough 1276 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: He throws such a good ball, in accurate ball that 1277 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: it provides for a lot of YAK. I mean the Niners, 1278 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: all those guys were leading the league in YAK and 1279 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 1: all of the stuff you'd think about. Wattles good in 1280 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,919 Speaker 1: that situation. Hill's good that situation, Tyreek, Cedric Wilson's gonna 1281 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 1: be in that situation. It feels like it would have 1282 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: made a sense for them. I thought it was a 1283 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 1: good question. But as we said, the league is do 1284 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: you have the guy? Do you have a young guy 1285 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: that you think can be the guy. And then there's 1286 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: maybe a couple that would be cousins Ryan Garoppolo, Tanhill, like, okay, 1287 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 1: everything goes right, we probably can make that run. And 1288 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: then if there's the guys that are definitely but we're 1289 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: not interested. You knew Mike a little bit when he 1290 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,560 Speaker 1: was here. Um, he would talk about like lions. He 1291 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: was very a unique guy, very like actual lions, but 1292 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: other worlds. Just fascinated by them or just fascinated by 1293 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: any Yeah, I remember that this is like Gordon or 1294 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: remember which receiver? Maybe when it was Hawk even was 1295 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: talking about how he would sometimes like some of their 1296 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: their film sessions, he'd end up like talking about you know, 1297 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,600 Speaker 1: nature and all lions and just that he was like 1298 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: a genius. He was just on another level. Truly. Yeah, 1299 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,680 Speaker 1: from an academic standpoint is what how the question I 1300 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 1: asked Armando, because you know him actually probably been in Armando, 1301 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 1: does this feels like it's on the borderline of a circus, 1302 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 1: like it could get that way. He's not. And the 1303 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 1: to of stuff like in the Peyton looming over in 1304 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: the next quarter bad I didn't like. I didn't like 1305 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: that for Mike McDaniel number one. I didn't like the 1306 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 1: notion that Peyton is kind of waiting in the wings 1307 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 1: if he has a bad season. I don't think he's 1308 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: going to. I think he's a very smart coach. And 1309 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: and look, it's not like Brian Flores had a bad 1310 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: season the first year when they were not trying to 1311 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: win and they ended up winning some games and which 1312 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: by the way, they could have just trapped Herbert and 1313 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: then they were not even then, they're they're probably the 1314 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 1: favorites there. They are, honestly like and it's the reason 1315 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 1: you think about them is they're they're kind of like 1316 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of where what happens in the NFL next They're 1317 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: They're one of those teams that kind of determined if 1318 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: the a f C is going to be even more 1319 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: of a snake pit in the next five to six years, 1320 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: three to five years, or if they are just gonna 1321 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 1: have this window where they have everything but and it's 1322 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: going to close like that. They're in it now, like 1323 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: they really need the guy now. They can't wait. But 1324 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how the heck they're going to acquire it. 1325 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: They don't have assets. No, you're right, and one of 1326 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 1: the things we have here and it's funny to me 1327 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: that they've got you know, they're not even in the 1328 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 1: top twenty two over the next three years. But you 1329 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: PLoP up Aaron Rodgers say, and Rodgers says, you know what, 1330 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,920 Speaker 1: because he can be out for the Green Bay deal 1331 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 1: after this year, right, is that right? I think that 1332 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 1: that's right. That he had a player option. It was 1333 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: a two year deal, so last year this year and 1334 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 1: then I felt like he had an opt out to 1335 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: where he could get out with no penalty. But I 1336 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 1: can't remember if it's after this year, after next. Either way, 1337 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: he again, you put him in there and they're they're 1338 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl total go in the Super Bowl. That's the 1339 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 1: way it is. Uh, you alluded to this, we can 1340 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 1: see the answer on that. On that Roger's quarterback on 1341 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the contract or had this quick time out. You mentioned 1342 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 1: the future rankings NFL future Power rankings. We will get 1343 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: into that coming up next. Let you know where we 1344 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: are who's at the top of the list. Shouldn't be 1345 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 1: much of a surprised at the top. We'll let you 1346 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: know where we figured out on this one as well. 1347 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 1: That's coming up next. List to cleve them Rounds Daily 1348 01:10:52,600 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 1: on fifty YESP in Cleveland, Cleveland. Brown's Daily on fIF 1349 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: e s B N Cleveland. Well, here for my friends 1350 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 1: at renew Home Exteriors who are beautifying and protecting your home. 1351 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 1: It's their passion. 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I 1361 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: love this. We did this yesterday with the NFC. We 1362 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 1: bind stock in remember this. Here we go. So the 1363 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 1: idea here is, this is from ESPN. This These are 1364 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,600 Speaker 1: our guys, these are are are are smart people. So 1365 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 1: it's Jeremy Fowler, Lewis Fodick, Seth Walder in Field, Yates 1366 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: and they're projecting over the next uh is it three 1367 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: to five years? These teams next three seasons, next three seasons. Okay. 1368 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:33,799 Speaker 1: So they ranked them in five categories overall roster, quarterback, coaching, draft, 1369 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: front office. So that's the criteria for this thing. So 1370 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 1: for example, just giving an idea of of kind of 1371 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 1: the the way that this was going to break down. 1372 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 1: So the number one Futures ranking was the Buffalo Bills. 1373 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: So they had the number one overall roster minus the quarterback. 1374 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: They had the number two quarterback situation in the league 1375 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. They had the number seven coaching situation, 1376 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: the number six draft situation, and the number one front 1377 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,479 Speaker 1: front office situation. This is according to these guys, what 1378 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,640 Speaker 1: does draft situation mean? I'm not sure how they're doing that. 1379 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Draft score must be just how they draft or like 1380 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: the picks that they have going forward. That could because 1381 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 1: because we're low on that and I think we've drafted well, 1382 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: but our draft scores twenty three, And I'm guessing is 1383 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 1: that because we don't have first round picks in the 1384 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: next two drafts. I know it must be. It must be. Yeah, 1385 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City is two on this list. Green Bay is 1386 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 1: tied for third with the one in draft because they 1387 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 1: picked up all those picks, those picks from Tyreek. Yeah, 1388 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 1: by the way, I'd rather have that, like all them 1389 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: picking all those all the receiver talent that's going to 1390 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: come in the league and getting them on rookie deals 1391 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: of course the next few years. The Chargers are fifth 1392 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 1: on that list. The Bengals are six on the list, 1393 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,719 Speaker 1: so we come in at ten. The Ravens incidentally or seven, 1394 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 1: so again a lot of a f c here. So 1395 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,679 Speaker 1: we come in seven on this list are overall roster 1396 01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:03,559 Speaker 1: rank minus the quarterback was seventh in the NFL. Fair like, Yeah, 1397 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: quarterback was ten. Okay, coaching was Draft twenty three, So 1398 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 1: you have to be right. That's got to be because 1399 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 1: we don't have those that's for the next three years. 1400 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: So it's because you don't have first round picks. Yeah, 1401 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 1: and then the front office is twelve. I like our 1402 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: front office. Yeah, but I think that's you know, if 1403 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: this was done last year, I about our coaching was 1404 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: higher because we were, you know, coming off of being 1405 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the coach of the Year. I don't understand how the 1406 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: front office isn't higher than twelve. There aren't a whole 1407 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 1: lot of teams who have drafted or signed better than us. 1408 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: In the last since a B has been here, and 1409 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: really the previous regime into a B, we've had pretty 1410 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 1: good front offices. They've been very different, very different, but 1411 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 1: very and yeah they drafted well, yeah, a lot of 1412 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 1: the guys that are here, you know, some of the 1413 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,839 Speaker 1: guys are here drafted by them and did a nice job. Um, 1414 01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: So I'm a little surprised in front office is so low. Uh. 1415 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 1: I think the only reason the quarterback is what it 1416 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: is is just this is kind of what I was 1417 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: talking about yesterday, how they had this fifteenth or whatever 1418 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 1: in some power ranking. Because nobody knows what to do 1419 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 1: with Watson and that's just the So then that sense 1420 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: like that there's in no world to see the tenth 1421 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,639 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league. But I think they're factoring 1422 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 1: that it's not a percent of him. I'm guessing yeah. Again, 1423 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the thing that all of these 1424 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: little rankings have to do going forward. So here's one 1425 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 1: that I thought was interesting because we were just we 1426 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 1: were talking about it and we just hit it on 1427 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, right, and so the Dolphins are twenty second 1428 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: roster overall, they think fifteenth. I think that's a little low. Quarterback. First, 1429 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 1: fine coaching, we don't know yet, new coach, I get 1430 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,439 Speaker 1: that new I'm guessing front office with that as well. 1431 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 1: And then the draft they're doing because they don't have 1432 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 1: the draft capital. But I think they are a team 1433 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 1: though in the next three years could be pretty good. 1434 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you on that. I think 1435 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: that's low. I also think, like, so they got the 1436 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: Bucks seven at quarterback. I mean you really it feels 1437 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 1: like they're only get promised Brady for the next year 1438 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,040 Speaker 1: and he is forty five. Like at some point he 1439 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 1: has to show that Arizona they have. That's what I 1440 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: was just gonna say. And they crush him. Well, they haven't. 1441 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: They haven't got it done. That's the bottom line, Cliff underachieving. 1442 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 1: They ranked him twenty nine Panther. Panthers are thirty first Saints. 1443 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 1: They're pretty high on the Saints at sixteen. I mean, 1444 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm just being like, considering where they're Cowboys twenty ye, 1445 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't bode well. I'm surprised the Steelers are at fourteen. Honestly, Yeah, 1446 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't like their situation that much. I think you're 1447 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 1: basing a lot on just what's on the side of 1448 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 1: the helmet. Going back to the Saints, I feel like 1449 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 1: the Saints are a year to year team right now. 1450 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: Like their defense is okay, but like what is the 1451 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: future of that team their defenses get right, Well, it 1452 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 1: all depends on what if Jamis picks up where he 1453 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: left off last year. They've got a reinvigorated receiving court 1454 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: now with a Lava and Mike Thomas, I think Sins 1455 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: could be pretty good. I'll tell you what. Like, I 1456 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: think I think one of the most intriguing teams in 1457 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 1: and I think you and I said it at the 1458 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,599 Speaker 1: same time as Jacksonville. They got Jacksonville six on this list. 1459 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,639 Speaker 1: If Doug Peterson can be competent at all, and there's 1460 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 1: no reason to believe he can't want a super Bowl. 1461 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna They're gonna draft in a decent spot. 1462 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't have any draft capital problems. Their 1463 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: front office is brutal like that can be acknowledged. But 1464 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 1: their quarterback future is should be about as good as 1465 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: can be and the rest of their rosters not terrible. 1466 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: They have them at fifteen, which given is they're respected 1467 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: an ascension, but it's their front office. I think they 1468 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 1: have thirty one, dead dead last in that But they're 1469 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 1: one of the more intriguing teams for me in the 1470 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 1: whole league because I feel like that's that's a winnable spot. 1471 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: They have the Falcons thirty two. I'll tell you that's 1472 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a situation that could flip so quickly if they get Stroud. 1473 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 1: That's why that I wouldn't mind throwing a few on 1474 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: that strad maybe Calvin Ridley back. I think I think 1475 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 1: the Bears are worse off than they have them. They 1476 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: have them at thirty. I think the Bears are one 1477 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 1: of the two worst situations of the league. Carolina thirty 1478 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: one is interesting to me too little low on the Lions. 1479 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they have them at twenty eight. I'm more bullish 1480 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: on them than they are. I have no juice with 1481 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: the Giants. I see they have the Vikings way high 1482 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: to Vikings. I think we're like nineteen Raiders eighteenth and 1483 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 1: then you have Vikings nineteen. All right, here's what they 1484 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 1: have to say about us. So this is again this, 1485 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 1: So this goes to that exactly the first line. It's 1486 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: about the Watson stuff. And so that's that's the reason 1487 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: that their tenth. That's a reason we're tenth. That's a 1488 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 1: reason the quarterback situation is tenth. Beyond that, the Browns 1489 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 1: do possess one of the league's best rosters on paper, 1490 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 1: with a nice blend of homegrown stars and those acquired externally. 1491 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 1: Why tell her, Marie Cooper, etcetera. This team is set 1492 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 1: up to be excellent. That's Field, Yates. He said the 1493 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: biggest worry last year. He's worried about the long term 1494 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 1: valuation Baker Mayfield. But his performance in let the Browns 1495 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 1: go in a different direction and acquire Watson. But who 1496 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: knows when we'll see Watson on the field. Yeah, on 1497 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: the acquire good job. You like that um Jacoby Persett 1498 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 1: could be leading this offense. In the short term. What 1499 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 1: could change for the better The Browns could prioratory prioritize 1500 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,960 Speaker 1: the passing games the whole point with more help on 1501 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: the outside of the new quarterback. In two they will 1502 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 1: need reinforcements at wide receiver behind Cooper. Cleveland knows for 1503 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,800 Speaker 1: its run game prowess, attempting five and twenty passes last year, 1504 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: the sixth lowest tot in the NFL. All the teams 1505 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 1: in this range either don't have a top quarterback or 1506 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 1: at injuries at the position last year. Tweaking the formula 1507 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 1: over the next few years will serve Cleveland well. Running 1508 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: back Nick Chubbs record at least point nine yard nine 1509 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 1: rush yards over expectation per carry in every season of 1510 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 1: his career per next Gen Stats. In other words, the 1511 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,519 Speaker 1: brown said, one of the most reliable runners in the 1512 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: league in Nick chubb That is what we know. The 1513 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 1: only reason your ten is because the with Watson. That's it. 1514 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,080 Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, and we all just want certain, 1515 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 1: we want certain to helpfully. We'll get it soon. Hopefully, 1516 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 1: hopefully you get an answer on that. Tied with the Niners. Yeah, 1517 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: on this list, which is a good team team we 1518 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:17,560 Speaker 1: we both like. Mm hmmm. It's interesting some of the 1519 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 1: way that other people view some of these teams on 1520 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 1: this thing. There are so many teams in the a 1521 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: f C. It's so heavy, so heavy loaded, and not 1522 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 1: going to change anytime soon. And if one of those 1523 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 1: older NFC quarterbacks are the ones who decide, hey, yeah, 1524 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,439 Speaker 1: I'd like to go down to Miami, it's not gonna 1525 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 1: get any easier. Yeah, there is there anybody out there 1526 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 1: on the receiver market that we could that could come 1527 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: in here in like will Fuller is still out there, 1528 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 1: you would want to Sean Jackson to come in or 1529 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 1: do you think we'll obviously we'll go into camp with 1530 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: what we have. But is that's hie as it goes along? 1531 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Will Fuller, I'd be it, I think, Yeah, it could 1532 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 1: be all right, very good, still so much more to come. 1533 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Rods Daily need well truly? Yeah? 1534 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Literally lots lots, Yeah, you're listen Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, 1535 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:34,759 Speaker 1: SPN Cleveland. The car trucker motorcycle actually caused you injury? 1536 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,680 Speaker 1: Colley and Drew Lawyers one enter Elk Ohio for a 1537 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 1: free case review. Elkins a proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1538 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: What do you have here from our good buddy Pat Irwin? 1539 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 1: All right, this is from Jared Luguin Bill brought this 1540 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 1: to our attention. Thank you, Jared. It's Sirius x m 1541 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 1: NFL Radio. Moving the Chains is breaking down every position 1542 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,480 Speaker 1: group from the starters to the backups of the developmental 1543 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 1: players for every team in the league. Check out Jim 1544 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 1: and Pat's top five quarterback rooms. Okay, so this is 1545 01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: the whole deal. Do you want me to go five 1546 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,759 Speaker 1: to one? Yeah? Okay, coming at number five for Pat Kerwin, 1547 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan's love, Roger's in love, 1548 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 1: coming in at number five for Jim Miller. Okay, the 1549 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, I think at this point then that 1550 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: now I'm out, You're done. You've lost me how and 1551 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 1: there's not a scenario where they're in the top in 1552 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Mitch Robinsky, You've been talking to Kenny Pickett and 1553 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph is the fifth best in the league. Did 1554 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: he play there? He must, I know he played for 1555 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 1: the Bears. Did he play there too? At some point. 1556 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 1: It's like backup from Pittsburgh. Good God. Pat Kerrwin number four, 1557 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks okay, Jim Miller number four, The Chiefs okay, 1558 01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,080 Speaker 1: Pat Kerwin number three. The Chiefs okay, Jim mill are 1559 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: number three. The Bucks okay, unanimous. Number two. I'll give 1560 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: you three guesses. Bills, no Chargers, no Bengals, no number 1561 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 1: two unanimous the Indianapolis Colts tandem of Matt Ryan and 1562 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Nick Foles number one. The Bills so the super Bowl 1563 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 1: champion and the Rams not listed, Joe Burrow not listed, 1564 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,639 Speaker 1: Herbert not listed. But the Steelers are and the Colts 1565 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 1: are consensus number two. Bills are the consensus number one. 1566 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: The Bills are consensus number one. By the way, wait 1567 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on, here's the 1568 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 1: best part about it. So these are based on total 1569 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:48,679 Speaker 1: quarterback rooms. Right, this is such a the stupidest thing ever. 1570 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 1: Like if it's not waited for starter versus backup, then 1571 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 1: if you're just a waste of time. So Josh Allen 1572 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 1: and then we loved our guy case Keenum. He was here, 1573 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 1: and they have Matt Barkley like Case Keenum and Matt 1574 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: bark So they're giving they're giving Barkley and Keenam the 1575 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,599 Speaker 1: same amount. You're giving the second and third string quarterbacks 1576 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 1: in every room the same amount of weight as the starter. 1577 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 1: Apparently not though, because under no, there is not a 1578 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 1: system that you could That's how could get to five 1579 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: if you are living in some dream world. That or 1580 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph is the best third string quarterback in the NFL. 1581 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 1: That's the only st But you still have the word 1582 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,919 Speaker 1: the worst, well in your backup could be if it's Traubisky, 1583 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 1: you can say, well, Trubisky is okay. Jim Miller, by 1584 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 1: the way, sixth round pick ninety four, I knew it. 1585 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 1: You don't do that unless there's a tie. You don't 1586 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: do that unless there's it's some tie to the area. 1587 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 1: And to me, there's no other way that Jim Miller 1588 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 1: would do. You don't do this is stupid. You don't 1589 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 1: do that. By the way, if you're gonna new quarterback rooms, 1590 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 1: and like of the room is the starter and the 1591 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 1: other two positions combined, that's the way you do a 1592 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 1: quarterback room. I just don't don't even get hurt anymore. 1593 01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't even understand. But help me understand, Colts, I 1594 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,720 Speaker 1: can't well, I just told you. The only way it 1595 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: makes sense is how I'm saying it. That every the first, 1596 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 1: second and third string quarterbacks are each and so what 1597 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: they're saying is Matt Ryan is middle is a fiften 1598 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: middle Road starter falls is the best backup, and then 1599 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:24,920 Speaker 1: whoever their third string guys is probably Easton Sam er Linger, 1600 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger from Texas, Okay, so Ellinger. So then they 1601 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: think that he has some sort of future. That's it. 1602 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 1: That's how they're doing it. But it's the stupidest way 1603 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 1: to ever do it. There's not anybody in the league 1604 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,400 Speaker 1: that would trade the Packers, the Chiefs, the I mean, 1605 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: the idea that the Chargers and Borrow aren't on this 1606 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,120 Speaker 1: is laughable, man, laughable. We should be on it. Well, 1607 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,759 Speaker 1: of course, they've got your quarterback duos. They've got Herbert 1608 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,719 Speaker 1: and Chase Daniel. Who have you got to do it? Waited? 1609 01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 1: And a guy named Easton Sticks a fifth round pick 1610 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen. He's gonna be on yellow Stone this fall. 1611 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, Eastern Stick, there weren't 1612 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot of blue collar jobs growing up. He's 1613 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 1: a ranch Easton Stick. I mean, that's just a stunning 1614 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: list I have to. I feel like I've got a 1615 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: click on this and see what the Maybe they just 1616 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 1: didn't even allow mentions. Where did he play? No clue 1617 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,760 Speaker 1: and I know that stuff. I don't have any idea. 1618 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 1: See the receiver rooms make some sense to me. The 1619 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:29,360 Speaker 1: receiver rooms they've got the Vikings, Bengals, Dolphins, Raiders, and Buccaneers. 1620 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 1: They have the same five on both sides. That all 1621 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Justin Jefferson and theieland Chase Higgins 1622 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:41,639 Speaker 1: and Boyd Waddle, Wilson and Tyree kill Evans and Godwin Adams, 1623 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro North Dakota State. Okay, So just to give 1624 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 1: you an idea of how big the West is. So 1625 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 1: if I were to drive from where I grew up two, 1626 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 1: I believe that's in Fargo. I believe they play in Fargo, 1627 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,760 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. Yeah, the Fargo. That that's probably you're 1628 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,799 Speaker 1: looking at. My guesses, you're looking at least a twelve 1629 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 1: hour drive. I'm saying you're looking at least at twelve 1630 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 1: hour drive from where I grow up longer. Yeah, let 1631 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,240 Speaker 1: me just see. So, like I always think it's funny 1632 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not here doing this to pick on you Gibbe. 1633 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,600 Speaker 1: When people oh, yeah, you're from I mean you gotta be. 1634 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,880 Speaker 1: You're close to Jackson that's close to Jackson Hole. Yeah, 1635 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 1: miles from where I grew up to Fargo, North Dakota. 1636 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Can I interest you in seven two wrong nine minutes? 1637 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 1: They go, oh yeah, I saw so and so I 1638 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 1: was going to Jackson Hole. Do you want to? You 1639 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: know that's that's near where you grew up, isn't it? 1640 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,519 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? In nine hours on the East Coast. I 1641 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 1: feel like you could get through six states, you know, 1642 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 1: in this is eleven and a half to go from 1643 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 1: there to far Ago. You could drive to Can you 1644 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,679 Speaker 1: drive to Miami from at least past Atlanta? You drive 1645 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 1: from here to Tampa in eleven hours, can't you? I 1646 01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 1: don't think so. It's got to be close. Jackson Hole 1647 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 1: is four hundred miles from where I grew up. You 1648 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:09,760 Speaker 1: can drive to Massachusetts. You can drive to Cape Cod night. 1649 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 1: What do you all you don't think I can get 1650 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 1: at I want you both really quickly a little further. 1651 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 1: Do we have just really quickly? Look at what I 1652 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,800 Speaker 1: just retweeted. I don't follow you on social so why 1653 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 1: don't you just read it to me, did you just 1654 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 1: tell or Warts who laughed off the all the people 1655 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 1: who laughed off the worri Warts years freaking about about 1656 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 1: those funny dancing robotic dogs would be forced to watch 1657 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 1: this video once a day for the remainder of the year. 1658 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 1: It is a robotic dog patrolling a border with a 1659 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 1: gun mounted to its head that it can shoot. And 1660 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,479 Speaker 1: I am terrified. That's not that's not real. Where's this at? 1661 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: Who's monitoring this? Who's dogs? Who paid for him? What border? 1662 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,960 Speaker 1: It's not? I don't think it's actually I think it's 1663 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 1: simulated border would be my guests. But are you watching this? 1664 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching you pulled it up? Oh my god? Did 1665 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 1: you imagine? Like, why can't there be a million of 1666 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,640 Speaker 1: those things? Then? What are we gonna do? Well? To 1667 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: be fair, we're not really great with these things either. 1668 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know the way that thing moves is create 1669 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,720 Speaker 1: Everything about that is creepy. I am that's terrifying, horrified. 1670 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Forget birds, dude, this is a better fear. Yeah, I 1671 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 1: still think the bird this thing. You have a hundred 1672 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,439 Speaker 1: of these things. Those birds are just a bunch of 1673 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,639 Speaker 1: feathers fall into the ground. Brother, Next levels, next We'll 1674 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:32,599 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. Cleveland Browns, They leaves, maybe Cleveland. You've 1675 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 1: been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of The 1676 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and ESPN eight w k n R