1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: What epics. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: Way up At Angela Ye Angela Yee and Sheella is 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: here guests hosting with me from Chicago. 4 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm here, I'm here. 5 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: And we have a very special guest from Ghana. Let 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: me say his name right, Socco Dad. Soccer Dad, but 7 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: we're going to call you Sark for the rest of 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: the interview. 9 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 4: You understand. 10 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: But welcome to Way up At Angela Yee and I 11 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: really appreciate having you here. You have such a huge following. 12 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Some people will say that you are the biggest artists 13 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: from Ghana. 14 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, but some people would. 15 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Say that yes, because you're very humble. 16 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: You're also the first artist from Ghana to reach a 17 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: million subscribers on YouTube. 18 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 4: That just happened. It has to the fun Base. They 19 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: updated me on that. You know, I'm really bad with 20 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 4: keeping up with my own self and I saw it 21 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: on Twitter that I had a million, which is great. 22 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: That's what's up? What is your secret to connecting with 23 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: people the way that you have? 24 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 4: I think I came in a game by default through 25 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: the back door, meaning I didn't come through media really 26 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: because I was trying to like literally come as a 27 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: commercial artist and have my songs on the radio, but 28 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: that didn't happen because the type of music I was 29 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: doing at the time was not what was happening at 30 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: the time. It was like super commercial, high life music 31 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: that was dominating, and I was rapping on sometimes kicks 32 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: without no baseline, just raw what I felt. So I 33 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 4: had to take to social media. So that's when I 34 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: built a following. And I also used to do a 35 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: rap battle on the radio station in Ghana, so that 36 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: kind of like builds my followers because they used to 37 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 4: vote every Saturday. I had to battle like over like 38 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: twenty something mcs and I kind of like came on 39 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: top all the time. 40 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: That's so like that is pressure. 41 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: It is okay, I built a following that cared about 42 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: the journey because they were part of it from day 43 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: one too. Now, so it's a bit of it's beyond 44 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: just having a head record. It's more of like we 45 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: know that's our guy sitting there. 46 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: And to this day, you're still independent, right, yesit ish 47 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: that is amazing for you to have accomplished, just even 48 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: the international super starting that you have being independent. And 49 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: is there a situation where you feel like you would 50 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: signed to a major label to be very honest. 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 4: I really wanted to in the beginning. I still would 52 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: love to. I think partnership is good. It just has 53 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: to make sense to you. So in the beginning, that's 54 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: what I was looking for. If it started in Ghana, 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: even in Ghana, I was looking for a label in 56 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: Ghana because I've never been signed even in Ghana. So 57 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: the type of music I was doing, as I said, 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: people did not believe that I was going to sell, 59 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: so I had to do stuff on my own. So 60 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: just being able to do stuff and flipping back to back, 61 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: I got used to it. So it's my own being stubborn. 62 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: That's why I don't invote people coming in. 63 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: Some people missed the bag then, because I'm sure those 64 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: people that you had an opportunity to sign with I know, right, 65 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: I know they're like, then we missed the bag a. 66 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Couple of them. But I think it's just as meant 67 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: to be that you were supposed to be in charge 68 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: of what you're doing. I can't fight it because I 69 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: didn't understand why people did not want to sign me, 70 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: because still a lot of people around them that I 71 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: felt I could have done better. But I always get past, 72 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: you know, So then I had to do with myself. 73 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: I paid my first video with my first paycheck. I 74 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: remember it was a beauty pageant in Ghana where I 75 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: got my first paycheck and then I shot my first 76 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: video with that. So then I built that flipping of 77 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: money to date, so I'm used to it. I'm not 78 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: saying that's that's the best way all the time. 79 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: It's just right for you. 80 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you need to wait off you, which I 81 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: feel sometimes that I wish I could have like a 82 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 4: backbone that could take care of certain things I don't 83 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 4: have to think about too, because it's a lot being 84 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: a creative person and also thinking about me being here, 85 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: how to navigate my way around and all of that. 86 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: So it's pressure, but sometimes I enjoy it. 87 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: But I like that you hit me directly, like yes, 88 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: I think that's a nice personal touch to be able 89 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: to reach out and be like hey, I want to 90 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like yeah, absolutely. So as far 91 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: as you though, people did see something in you though, 92 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: because that was why you managed to get collaborations early 93 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: on and everything. 94 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: There were people who were like, yo, he's really really dope. 95 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: So for you helping out other artists because you also 96 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: have artists that were signed to you. Right, So talk 97 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: about what it's like to be a boss when it 98 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: comes to dealing with other people, because that's. 99 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: Not an easy situation. 100 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: I feel like being an artist and having artists signed 101 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: to you sometimes it's harder than anything because they relate 102 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: to you in a different way and have a different 103 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: type of expectation. 104 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: True, you said, it's all right. So what I realized 105 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: was because I'm an artist, I feel for them, and 106 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: I feel like I would like to give them what 107 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 4: I would want if I had a situation, because I'm 108 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: probably one of the few labels that gave a fifty 109 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: to fifty percentage while I was putting in the money, 110 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 4: you know, because that's what I would have loved for myself. 111 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. 112 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so all my artists. 113 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: And have my money back first. 114 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: Yes, all my artists had a very good run with 115 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: me in two dates to get paid. Doughtie are not 116 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: on my label, so yes, I just felt at a 117 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: certain point I needed to look out for other artists 118 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: what I was looking for when I was coming, which 119 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: I didn't get how to do it for other artists. 120 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: But in Africa, maybe I can limit it to Ghana 121 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: the resources. I'm not that strong for an artist to 122 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: be able to sign an artist. You know, there's a 123 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: lot of pressure. So what I did after them is 124 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: to take my time and get things right before I 125 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: was signed somebody officially, to become the one to run 126 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: two when you need something, because it's a lot of 127 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: you know, it's a lot of responsibility. So now I 128 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: kind of like endorse the cool signed people and then 129 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: let them go right to figure your own stuff out. 130 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: Because I enjoy the liberty of being free, and I 131 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: want other artists to feel like that. So that's what's up. 132 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: Now, let's get it to the meet of this. 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Because the most recent. 134 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Song you put out is called try Me. 135 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: I cannot believe you did that because I feel like 136 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: you try your hardest to not engage in like even 137 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 2: doing press, you know, and keeping and you've even said 138 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: that you like to keep your personal life separate from 139 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: you as an artist. But in this particular situation, you've 140 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: had to address things that have been said about you, right, 141 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: and so what was your decision and making this song? 142 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: So people are calling it in this song, but I 143 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: feel and it is harsh. I'll say that because it 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: hurt my heart when I was like, oh, I would 145 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: hate for somebody. I would not want to go back 146 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: and forth with Sark on a situation like this. But 147 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: what made you decide this was the move that you 148 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: were going to make as far as addressing you know 149 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: this book where it was referenced you had made a 150 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: woman have an abortion. 151 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: To be very honest, it's a sensitive conversation that the 152 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: reason why I didn't do no media round or press 153 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: around it is because I know I might lose how 154 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: I would like to present what I feel about it. 155 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: So normally this is not the first time I've done 156 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: records to address certain issue, or maybe a line or 157 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: two in a record just too because I don't know. 158 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: There's such an energy I hate to feed into, especially 159 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: speaking about it, because I might lose my coup. So 160 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: with this situation, yes exactly, I'm not going to sit 161 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 4: here and say I'm super proud of it. Thing is 162 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: just in the moment how I felt, whether be in 163 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 4: my truth. There should have been a way that you 164 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: could have said it. That's why I don't like to 165 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: speak about it, because this is a conversation between two people. 166 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: But then we could have a conversation if you want 167 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: to talk about it because it involves me as well. 168 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: But because people know the sock doesn't speak, you know, 169 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: people think they can say something and no, sock is 170 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: not going to speak of it. It's going to get away 171 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: with it, you know. So once in a while, you know. 172 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: You just let them poke them in them. 173 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: Because I'm the same way if people talk crazy about me, 174 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't like to address things because I feel like 175 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: it gives it way more life and I see people 176 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: do it all the time, and instead of me engaging 177 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: in it back and forth, I'm like, you know what, 178 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: go ahead, I'm gonna just keep on doing my thing 179 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: and not let anybody knock me off my square. But 180 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: this time you said you not only it wasn't a 181 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: line or two. So I want to know who did 182 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: you let hear this first? Was anybody in the studio 183 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: with you? 184 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: But my team is yeah, they're all like people think 185 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: my team is in so part of what I did 186 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: or did the record, None of them knew I did 187 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: the record because I was on tall. I'm actually on 188 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: tall when it happened. Yeah, And sometimes when I feel something, 189 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: then the lyrics is going to come right there. And 190 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: then so I sneaked into the studio to even record this. 191 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: I didn't let nobody hear it because I didn't want 192 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: to hear no advice. I just literally want to do 193 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: what I felt at that point. Yeah, and faced the 194 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: consequences later on. But it wasn't like the whole team 195 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: sat down and said this is good to go. I 196 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: did it personally for myself. 197 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: They probably was like, what are you doing. I can 198 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: imagine those phone calls and message a. 199 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: Lot of phone calls. So in the heat of the moment, 200 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: the person that I didn't hear from which normally she 201 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: would have been the first person to hit me as 202 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: my lawyer, so early morning I was like, I was 203 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: trying to tease her and I said, Mama, see, so 204 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 4: don't you care about what's happening, because you would hit 205 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: me up and see what are we doing. The sad 206 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: news is she was dead the same time. Yeah, so 207 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: just I see two takes go. I didn't hear because 208 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: she would respond like within five minutes. The two hours 209 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: then I heard she she's no more. So that's an awful, 210 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: very very tough time. Did show. 211 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear that. Yeah, I'm really sorry. 212 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 4: She would have been somebody who I know would in 213 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 4: endorse that that situation of how I wanted to handle it, 214 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: but I just felt like it like this, I normally 215 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: don't do it, but this, to me, I think I'll 216 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: get to a point where I can speak freely about it. 217 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: I think it's still it's still fresh that I still 218 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: want to process it before I can really speak. 219 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: And this is something that happened yere like a really 220 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: long time ago. Yeah, so this is something that she 221 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: brought back up and then I know her interviews. You 222 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: don't even really like to address things like this. But 223 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: since you put the song out out and it felt 224 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: like somebody leaked it first, yes, and so maybe you 225 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: didn't even intend to put it out. 226 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was thinking. 227 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're like, well, it's hearing it. 228 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Okay. 229 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: Where I was, it was like very late, I think 230 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: two am. And then I see Twitter going crazy and 231 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: people put in out the record. Oh so I have 232 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: no idea because I didn't give it to So I 233 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: have like two three people that I don't want to suspect. 234 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's going to create some energy because I 235 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: was I did it just to hold onto it and 236 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: see if I'm going to release it, but then when 237 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: it came out, I was like, let me just let 238 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: me just put it out. 239 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: Do you do that often, like something goes on and 240 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: you're like, let me just do a song about it, 241 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: and then kind of put it away, like kind of 242 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: like getting something off your chest diary, because you do 243 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: come from that school of rap battling, so when something 244 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: makes you mad, I can see you. Instead of writing 245 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: it down, you might just be like, let me just 246 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: go in the booth and do something. 247 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: I expressed myself well when I do music, I think 248 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: I say the best if I do music, if I 249 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: speak about it. I don't know if I'm a good 250 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: person that expressed himself well. I can talk about my 251 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: life or whatever. But there's certain situations I know that 252 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 4: I might lose my coul. Things I'm very passionate about 253 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 4: hard for me to speak about it. I'll be losty 254 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: even in the thoughts, I'll be all over the place, 255 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: conversations like you've been talking about my people and how 256 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: music and how we're supposed to survive and do this. 257 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: I care so much about it that when I speak 258 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: about it, because of the passion and emotions I have 259 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: for it. I might not be able to get to 260 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: the point, but when I do a record, I have 261 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 4: time to really say exactly what I want to say. 262 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: So when something happens, I feel like, let me just 263 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: do a record. Or most people are lucky, sometimes it'll 264 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: be a line or two. You know, if I do 265 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: a whole joint for you, that means a few times 266 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: I've done that. I think the second time I've done 267 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: like a record on one particular situation, that should tell 268 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: you that the not living things It wasn't how similar situation, 269 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 4: but it's not exact right. 270 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean it was a heartbreak type of yes, because 271 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: I faced that, and it feels like that was about 272 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: a particular person or in situation. 273 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I didn't would try me 274 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 4: I knew what I was doing not living then I didn't. Okay, 275 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: But then you can see yourself that something is creeping 276 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 4: in that. You don't know that that's what you're talking about. 277 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you were just expressing emotions and then it was 278 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: kind of bringing up feelings. 279 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: Exactly going to creep into it because what I was 280 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: saying was exaggerated. I've not faced that before, but that's 281 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: similar things in there that I've seen, but so that 282 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: wasn't like towards anybody. So it's a funny story. I 283 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: did a which never came out. I did a whole 284 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: project around the time where I had a situation with 285 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: this girl that we broke up, and I didn't know 286 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 4: how bad it creeped into my creativity because the whole 287 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: album was towards me speaking about women in the sertain 288 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: type of way, a different version, but it was all 289 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: kind of like. I didn't notice it until the whole 290 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: project was done. I was listening to I'm like, what's 291 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: different about the songs. It's the same thing, just different angles. 292 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: So something like that. I didn't know, but it was 293 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: creeping into the writing. Okay, not everything could be that, 294 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: but I didn't think about Somebody Wild because the hook 295 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 4: was given to me by oak Lade. 296 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: Okay, so which it's a beautiful song. People love that song. 297 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: And I think, do you feel like as the further 298 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: you've gotten in your career, the more you've been able 299 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: to open up about emotions and telling more about yourself. 300 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm still not not good with that. I still put 301 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: limitations to it, but I definitely love music that makes 302 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: you feel something right. 303 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Where do you think that comes from? For you? 304 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: I seen as in like putting those limitations on yourself. 305 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: Why do you think that you do that? 306 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I think I just figured out 307 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: a way to god myself. I don't know what the 308 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 4: reason is, but I still find a way to guard myself. 309 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: So I kind of like tell myself vulnerable to few 310 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: people that I would have to care that much if 311 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: something happens. So my mental states with even the industry, 312 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: I don't really have people that I count on too much, 313 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: so I don't get heads easily to break my whole process. 314 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: So few people close family, the team, few people around 315 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: me that I'm vulnerable to that I know these guys 316 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: can really break me when something happens, but I don't 317 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: make it too much, especially with the industry, so I 318 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 4: have It's rare that you find cycle there having an 319 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: issue with anybody in the industry because I feel like 320 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: nobody owes you nothing. If they choose to support that's okay. 321 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: So I never have grudges with people. I never starts 322 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: because I don't think you owe me anything right that whole. 323 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a persona but it's like a 324 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: shield for my own piece. 325 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: I just asked that because sometimes it is how we 326 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: were raised in our families, because I know, for me, 327 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: like my family is not very emotional, and so I 328 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: can be really guarded about certain things too, you know, 329 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: just because we weren't raised that way to be super 330 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: expressive and like saying everything that we feel all the time. 331 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, what was me? Yeah? Tell it will 332 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: tell you everything. Just start crying right now. Well, I'm 333 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: just very vocal. 334 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: But I also can relate to like when somebody steady poking. 335 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like music and I 336 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: just say it that it's a formal expression. So you 337 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: just making stuff and it's just like you're just saying 338 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: what's on your mind, and it's just. 339 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: It goes there. Listen. 340 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: I think that's the end of that, because after this song, 341 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would ever want to battle 342 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: you about anything because y'all got to listen to it. 343 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: We'll play some of it that we can't like it. 344 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: You said, I like it, she responded at all. I 345 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: have no idea of not like has anybody said, because 346 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: I know your followers will tell you and like. 347 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: When I put it out. I wasn't looking for I 348 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: did it because I want to do it. I'm not 349 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: looking for a reaction, you know. 350 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: I just but you didn't even intend to really put 351 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: it out either. 352 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, looking out for it and trying to figure 353 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: out who said what. I just said it and that's it. 354 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: Now. I got to ask you this because you are married, right, 355 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: what did your wife say about all this? And did 356 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: she know in advance or did she find out what 357 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: everybody else? 358 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: To be honest, I really still don't want to like 359 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: speak about that, but I think she's she handled it 360 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: the way that I didn't think she was going to 361 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: be able to handle it. You know, she was cool 362 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: about it. She cared more about how I was feeling, which. 363 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Was that's great. 364 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was like if I was good because I 365 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: was on tour, so that was hair worry. 366 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: About how I was feeling because she knows there's that 367 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: a character too. It isn't that like you just be 368 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: firing off on people. 369 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, she knows that. It takes a lot for me 370 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: to speak because, to be very honest, the reason why 371 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: I don't speak, which might sound a certain type of way, 372 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: but I feel like nobody's really worth my response, which 373 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: has always been my stance because if it should be 374 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: somebody that I'm going to benefit from, even if I 375 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: don't want to respond, I will respond because I'll benefit 376 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: out of it. But most times, the people that speak 377 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: about soccle there, if I look at them from top 378 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: to bottom, like is it really worth it for me 379 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: to go back and forth with this person? You know, 380 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: that's the main reason why I don't speak, and I'm beyond. 381 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: When I started the journey, I cared a lot of 382 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: about what people said, and then I realized that it 383 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: actually doesn't change anything. People said a lot about Socco there. 384 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: I was not going to be able to do to 385 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: be on this platform rapping in my native language. I'm here, 386 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to do a show 387 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: in the state to the BET Award. Like so now 388 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: when I hear people speak, I'm like, you're just saying something. 389 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: It's not going to change anything. 390 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you've done it. 391 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: You've done a lot of first yes, when it comes 392 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: to what it is that you do too, and even 393 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: like you said, being able to wrap in your native 394 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: language and also just go back and forth I think 395 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: so fluently with English. You know, what's your native language. 396 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to say it wrong ever. 397 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: So you use c H and three three three three. 398 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying, but that's a real skill because even 399 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: when you're listening to it, I don't even know. 400 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't tell. 401 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just switch over and I'm like oh, and 402 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: then he's back. 403 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 4: You know, that's deliberate. That's what I did. So when 404 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: I started in Ghana, I was just rapping in tree 405 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 4: and with no style, so I was very lyrical. So 406 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: what I was saying Ashantis, which is where I'm from. 407 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: They understood what I was saying so they could relate. 408 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: But when I go to party in Ghana where you 409 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: go to the north or the voter region, they still 410 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: didn't get it. So I had to work on flow 411 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: and delivery. So now what you guys experiencing now is 412 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: the point where I want to please you guys as well. 413 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: So that's why you can listen at this point. Years back, 414 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 4: you wouldn't get it. You're like, what is he saying? Oh, 415 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: there's no wild factor about it. But now I had 416 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: to deliberately sit down and go like, how is ANGELI 417 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: Y gonna appreciate this song without understanding right, Okay, the 418 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: people that I love from America. I love Eminem when 419 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 4: I was younger. You guys think how you're speaking now 420 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: is normal, but this is an accent when you go 421 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 4: to Africa. Yeah. Course, as much as we're speaking English, 422 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: a lot of people might not get it. 423 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: And she's from Chicago when she speaks, it's an accent 424 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: to me. And I'm from Berklyn when I speak. 425 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: But then when we feel the music, we feel it. 426 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: So that's what I Okay, So why do they like it? 427 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: Why do they like bustar rhymes? Oh? Because of how 428 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: he's going. So then I had to work on that, 429 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: and that's the I'm still working on to get it 430 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 4: to the next level. But that's what you guys are 431 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 4: hearing now. 432 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: And you've been doing some amazing collapse so you like 433 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: Chicago artists too. 434 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: That's how I was like, oh, tell, yeah. 435 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: How did that come about? I was saying, you had 436 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: some stuff with Chance and Vic. 437 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: Yes, So started with Vic. I heard him speak. He's 438 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: gone in so it made sense and he was always 439 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: in Ghana and he's one of the few people that 440 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: wanted to put his people on so I saw it 441 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: earlier on he mentioned my name on a big platform 442 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: here in the States. I was like, and we never 443 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 4: met at that. 444 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: Point, so that's dope. 445 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know how we met officially. I 446 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: think through somebody we met beautiful soul, a great person. 447 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: It goes beyond music, and I like that when you 448 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: guys actually have a bond and the music happens, that's great. 449 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: But if it's just based on oh, I know you 450 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 4: have numbers and this and that, I don't believe in that. 451 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: So it was organic. We had a great time. We 452 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: drove around town, then we made music. We showed the video. 453 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: Then through him our linked type of Chance and he 454 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: also came down to Ghana. 455 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: I remember that. 456 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I think Chance tweeted at me when I want 457 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: the bet best international flow and I told people to 458 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: come to Ghana and then he said it's definitely looking 459 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: out coming. 460 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, people did go to Ghana. By the way, 461 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: we were just talking about that whole little Ganma fest. 462 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now were you there when you were there when 463 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: that when everybody was there? 464 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Because Christmas, Every Christmas, I have one of 465 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: the biggest shows in Ghana. 466 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: That's how we're going, Yes at the chip to Ghana plan. 467 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: All I know is we see the videos with the 468 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: boats and the that's crazy video you need to get there. 469 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: And the movies. 470 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: I was just telling you about the movies like a Netflix. 471 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm addicted to him. 472 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: I'm all the movies. 473 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 4: Wow. Wow. It's a beautiful spot to come to if 474 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: you want peace and security wise, if you don't want 475 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 4: to care about walking out at night and not nobody 476 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: bothering you. That's Ghana, you know, very extremely peaceful, beautiful 477 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: and we love people coming from elsewhere to our country. 478 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 4: We really know how to host. So a lot of 479 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 4: a lot of your people are still staying there. They 480 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: don't want to come back since you know, they bought 481 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 4: properties out there and they don't want to come back 482 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: because the peace out there is crazy. 483 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: And people do be like I'm going to get some 484 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: play at place, and god, everybody say that. 485 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: So what was life like for you growing up? 486 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: So? I grew up with my mom, four siblings including myself, 487 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: vive in a city called Tema. Then I was taken 488 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: to Acra, which kind of like built. I think to 489 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: answer the first question when you asked about the Guardian thing, 490 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: I think it started from when I had to live 491 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 4: with somebody that I went through like serious hardship with 492 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: the person, and it's kind of like, as much as 493 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: I love speaking about it, I still feel like the 494 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: person didn't know better, so me speaking about it now, 495 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: I still think about how they feel because I didn't 496 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: have the best experience with them. But I also kind 497 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: of like I understand that they didn't know better at 498 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 4: that point, but that doesn't take away from the fact 499 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: that this happened exactly. So that created the whole laid 500 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 4: back and watching stuff and not getting involved in too 501 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: much and watching life from this perspective. So stop that 502 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: I say in the music, if you understand, I speak 503 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: about stuff that I have in experience, but I like 504 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: to observe a lot, and that created this this persona 505 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: So yes, it was. It was a tough beginning. I 506 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: didn't know where mom was, didn't know where Dad was, 507 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: and I was staying with this person and I had 508 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 4: to go through like serious hardship to be able to 509 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: So that's where I developed writing and it turned into music, 510 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 4: you know, because I just needed a way to speak 511 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: about what I was feeling. And I wasn't too much 512 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 4: of a friend's type clique type of person, so it 513 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: was a good therapy for me. 514 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes our hardships is wold make us really who we 515 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: are today too, because if you think about it, you 516 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been writing and doing the things they to 517 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: do if you didn't go through what you went through 518 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: to be able to It was meant. 519 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: To tailor make you. My dad was not around because 520 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 4: I was supposed to do something and probably me if 521 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 4: if you never know, but if maybe he was around, 522 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: it might not be this way. Right. So now when 523 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 4: we had a heart to heart conversation recently, which I 524 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 4: love him for even stepping up to have the conversation, 525 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 4: I still said thank you to him because that situation 526 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: created the circle that you're seeing today because I'm saying stuff. 527 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: The reason why Ghanians left circle there, which I know 528 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 4: for a fact, is because of what I say is 529 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: very deep for a young guy. When I came up, 530 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: I was saying stuff that even the old people were 531 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 4: not thinking about, right, And it's because of what I've 532 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: been through. So I'm thankful for everything that happened. 533 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: How did the heart to heart even happen with your dad? 534 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: So my dad, so my mom, And that's when you 535 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: women are going to come in, not to put genders. 536 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: But you know the drama that comes with mom, right, 537 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 4: mom sits me down and goes like, no, didn't sit 538 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: me down. She didn't talk to me, but she spoke 539 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: to my dad saying that I am disappointed in him 540 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: and I'm waiting for an apology. I never said that, right. 541 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 4: So now I see my dad in my house at 542 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: the door. I opened him like, it's all okay, But 543 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 4: you said I should come to that. I said, no, 544 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: I didn't say anything. So your mom said, you said 545 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 4: that you wanted to have a heart to heart conversation. 546 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: So that's how come it happened. My mom just set 547 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 4: that up so we can have a conversation. And when 548 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 4: you started speaking as much as you know as a 549 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: as a child, I was like thinking about what could 550 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: have been right by when he was speaking, I said, man, 551 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: now I could I'm not going to justify what he did, 552 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 4: but I can understand just that. Maybe you dealt with 553 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: it in the wrong way, but I get it. It 554 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: was way easier for me to speak to him now. 555 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, has that changed anything about you? Like sometimes you 556 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: feel like this burden kind of lifted when you are 557 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: able enough. 558 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I don't know. If I was thinking about 559 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: it or not. But I'm the type of person I 560 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: can just move forward. I just appreciate whatever that's happening. 561 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking at how I turn out to be, and 562 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: that's what I care about. So I don't think I 563 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: was having this weight on me, like, oh, I need 564 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 4: to get this off, and I feel like there was 565 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: some limitations here and there. I appreciate My biggest problem, 566 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: which is my blessing, is that I always appreciate every situation. 567 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 4: So my sister sent me a voice note asking have 568 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 4: I ever been sad because they never see me like 569 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 4: that before. Never. I only cried recently because of my lawyer. 570 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 4: But it's rare to catch me being sad about anything 571 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: because I understand so much should be grateful. 572 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: For it is. 573 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: But this business is also a tough business too, because 574 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: it also sometimes can feel like the more success that 575 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: you get, the more that comes your way. As far 576 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: as like issues, You're like, we didn't have no issue like. 577 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: Weally exactly, but I figured a way too. I need 578 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: to because I feel like I'm going to do this. 579 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: Anything that you love so much, you figure a way 580 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 4: to deal with it. You I don't see myself stopping this, 581 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: So why not strap yourself to be ready to face 582 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 4: everything that it comes with to be able to do it. 583 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: So I think at this point what can get to 584 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: me is anybody that I love being affected by me. Okay, 585 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: that's not me personally. I don't care. 586 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: You care about how other people are my. 587 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: Mom, wifie, kids, how are they feeling? That's going to 588 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: get to me. But because they didn't sign up for this. 589 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: My daughter, by the way, love your wife. 590 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: Yes, because I saw she did an interview and they 591 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: were like, she's amazing. 592 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: She speaks German fluently. 593 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: She stayed there because she said she. 594 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: Grew up in Germany and they just thought that. You know, 595 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: she minds her business. 596 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: And and that's that's typically typically how she is from 597 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: day one. She doesn't really love this whole show being stuff. 598 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: She's not really into that. 599 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well fair enough. Now, how has the tour 600 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: been going? Talk to us about that, because you've been 601 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: all over the place. 602 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: Yes, it's been beautiful. The last time I had tour, 603 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: I do one off shows. By having a tour, which 604 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: is always hectic. The reason why I run away from 605 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: it because I hate the whole waking up and going 606 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: to check in somewhere else and then you can't settle. 607 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: You always have to have your bags packed. 608 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: But you like count that cast. 609 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I looked at and just. 610 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: And also getting to see people. 611 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: Exactly and touched base with the people that listen to 612 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: the music. So I just came from Europe, which is good. 613 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: We did Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Antwerp, Italy. It was all great, beautiful, 614 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 4: beautiful event. And then we kicked off here in the 615 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: States with the Cornee Island Show with Skip Maley that's 616 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: Bob Marley's grandson. Yes, he brought us over. Then we 617 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: did my show Rhich. You were busy to come. 618 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: But I was. 619 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: That was at Patty Labelle's house, but I would have 620 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: definitely been there. 621 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was great. 622 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: And you have a special type of Bob Marley I 623 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: guess affinity as well, So talk about that too. 624 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, that call came in and I didn't believe it. 625 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: I keep saying. I thought it was like, you know, 626 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: when I rap and I say I'm going to do 627 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: a song with Bob Marley, that's that would sound like 628 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: a joke, like you're just trying to be funny, you know. 629 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 4: So for that conversation to start. I didn't believe it 630 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: in the beginning until Descent the Vote. I'm talking about 631 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: the original vocals about Mali. This is a legend, that's 632 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: a classic song. Stir it up, and I was supposed 633 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: to lay my vocals next to that. It was overwhelming. Yeah, 634 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: but I had my producers. They gave us the creative freedom. 635 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't too much of them trying to tell us 636 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: what to do, so just have the vocals and do 637 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: whatever you want to do with it. It was the 638 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 4: best situation that every artist could ask for. So I 639 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 4: had my people working on, my engineer and my producer. 640 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 4: Then we did it. I think we did two versions. 641 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: The first version had English dominating because I was thinking, Okay, 642 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: it's going to go to this type of crowd. So 643 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: but then they came back. Then they said, no, we 644 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: chose you because of your how proud you are of 645 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: your native thong, so we want more of that, and 646 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: that's what you guys are listening now. 647 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I love that. 648 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: That's great feedback, yes, because that sometimes you try to 649 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: adapt to what you think people were like, but what 650 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: people like is who you really are. 651 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, and you seem to be real, humble and 652 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: just got a great energy and just the way that 653 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: you just speak and everything is likene. 654 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 655 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: And I like how you speak on yourself and a 656 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: third person. 657 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're gonna start doing that now I could 658 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: already see yes, yes, yes, yes. And as far as 659 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: your business, you know how good you are a business? 660 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: Like, where did that come from? That type of knowledge? 661 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 4: I think that came for me trying to figure out 662 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: things on my own, and it built because I want 663 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: to do this, how to learn how to do it. 664 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: I got to see how you how much more you 665 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 4: gained when you reinvest So it started from that. So 666 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 4: I saw that when I showed good videos, I became 667 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: in the league of African artists, moving from a Ghanian artists. 668 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, so the more you put in, the 669 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: more you get out. So it started from that, and 670 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: then yeah, it just literally builds around just trying to 671 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: figure things out. I made a lot of mistakes because 672 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: I didn't understand. It took me time to get on 673 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: paid platforms because in Africa we're not used to that, 674 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: you know, we were used to still used to giving 675 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: up free music because that's when the mass can get it, 676 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: you know, the master still don't have that access where 677 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: they use cards like Visa cards to purchase music. It's 678 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: not that normal there. So if you do it all 679 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: paid platforms, it's hard to reach the people with time. 680 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: But if you want your music to like go viral today, 681 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: it has to be free. So it took me time 682 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: to really catch on with getting checks on online platforms. 683 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: But then I had great people, and I like to 684 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 4: keep people that can teach me something, you know, I 685 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: like to be thought. So my business partner, she is amazing, 686 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: you know. She got me a deal with Standard Chartered 687 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: Bank as an ambassador, and I just saw how she 688 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: worked that collaboration and I'm like, I need you. I 689 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: know I can't afford, but I need you around me, 690 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: you know. So someone like her taught me how to 691 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: have conversations with the corporate world because that has been 692 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: a breage between entertainment because when we're having a conversation, 693 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: they don't get us and we don't get them. But 694 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: when we have Angela, ye who understands me, and Angela 695 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: gets into that, she would know how to marry it. 696 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: So so I like people that can teach me stuff. 697 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: And that's how I learn I land on the job. 698 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: They always say you should never be the smartest person 699 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: in the room, right and then you're in the wrong room. 700 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: You got to figure out those circles exactly. 701 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: So, how do you think you can take soccer day 702 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: to the next level? Because you're already right here. But 703 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: I know you've been doing this all on your own, 704 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: you know. So what do you think has to happen 705 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: for you to take it to the next level? And 706 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: what are some other things that you want to do, 707 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: because I can already tell just by your personality that 708 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: it's not just music and tours. 709 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: There's more things on the horizon. 710 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: I think at this point, if I have to be honest, 711 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: I'm in between thinking about Soakoda and thinking about Ghana 712 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 4: music in general because doing back to back what I've 713 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: been doing over the years. Yes, I still feel like 714 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: personally I have dreams that I want to achieve, especially 715 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: for the fans, because that's the main people that I 716 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: do this for outside myself. They really want to see 717 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: me do good and I can feel that especially from Ghanians, 718 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: they want to see me do better and go more. 719 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: So yes, I still look forward to doing that, but 720 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: I think there is this ecosystem that has to be sorted, 721 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: especially for my people in Ghana, to make it easier 722 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: for these young superstars coming to do what I couldn't 723 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: do or what my generation couldn't do. I wanted to 724 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: push the conversation further that what we did, and I 725 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 4: think that would be where my state of mind is personally. 726 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: The fans hate when I speak like that because they 727 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: still want me to speak about me and what I 728 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 4: want to do for myself. 729 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you, like you said, it was a lot 730 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: of limitations, and it was a lot of obstacles, but 731 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: because you know what they are, you can help knock 732 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: those down and figure out solutions exactly. 733 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm trying to do at this point, 734 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: or I'm doing in a way. 735 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: Because you are rebranding your whole label, right, Okay. 736 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: Yes, so Ego Plug is a I don't call it 737 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: a label, but it has all our services in there. 738 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: But we're trying to like make it easier for that 739 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: bridge to happen for artists, you know, crossing over and 740 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: making big moves and all of that. 741 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I love to see it, and I 742 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: am so appreciative that you stop by because I know 743 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: you were on this tour and you've been super busy, 744 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: so it means a lot to me that you came through, 745 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: and I also appreciate the fact that you were able 746 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: to be really open about everything that's been going on. 747 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: We way up, but thank you so much and for 748 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: everybody here in the United States. 749 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: The tour is still happening. 750 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: Yes on. The new album is out called Jimes Damns 751 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: All Platforms, beautiful, incredible music, and we have some other 752 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: singles coming up as well. 753 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: What's the next single. 754 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm yet to decide, but I have one with Litle Chris, 755 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: which is like. 756 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: I saw yell in the studio together. You guys linked 757 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: up like a long time ago before that. 758 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: Two years ago, came to Ghana and then agy same thing. 759 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: We just linked up on it on a good vibe. 760 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: And then he came back years after and we linked up. 761 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Again as we saw that picture in the studio. So 762 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: it looks okay. 763 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: We have that single and a couple more, which Tristan single. 764 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: I just did a record while I was on tour 765 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: in Europe. I met Ruga from Nigeria. 766 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: Nice we did. 767 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: We did an amazing song that's also a good song 768 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: as well, so hopefully we can any of them can 769 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 4: come anytime. 770 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: Soon, all right, super lit, We love to see it 771 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: well sor thank you so much for joining us. It's 772 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: way up at Angela, Yachell, and make sure you be 773 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: in Chicago too, so you got. 774 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: To go to the show. Make sure I be there. 775 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 4: Appreciate. 776 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: Maybe y'all can wrap battle, Okay, alright, it's way up 777 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: at Angela ye