WEBVTT - Gary Clark, Shawn Springs, Bubbles and Player Comps | Get Loud | Washington Commanders 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.040 How do you doing, guys? 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:03.120 It is to get my podcasts. Anybody seat geek and 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.560 we're gonna take a look back now at the best 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.000 of the best from the last year. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:08.479 Man, We've had a ton of good times. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:09.039 Listen. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.760 We found Bubba Jackson's he's resting in the home in Florida. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.280 Most definitely he like art, he liked music. Plus Michael 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.280 left him millions of dollars with about Gary Clark. Gary 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.480 was so good on this podcast and Bluefoot he's always 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.480 a great guy that stops by. We got a lot 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.520 of stuff we talk about on this podcast, and that's 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:25.119 all coming. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.680 Up next to right now. Do you want to preview 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:30.960 the falcons to talk about Bubbles? 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.839 First, let's talk about Bubbles. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.120 I know you're gonna say that, So here's the thing. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:43.560 You know, Michael Jackson, remember Bubbles, his chimp, his baby chimp. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.920 You know, Bubbas Jackson. Bubbus Jackson was the first emotional animal. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.240 He started to jumper, you know, because I'd be walking 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.920 in I'll be walking in the Groce store and somebody 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.280 be like, yeah, like this parrot on my shoulder because 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.920 I need him for emotional well being. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.400 I'm like, my god. Where they used to be Bubbles. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.920 Yes, Bubbles started it, mister Bubbles Jackson and. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.319 Meubus Jackson, that's his name. Then guess what we did. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.320 We gooed to see where he was today. It wouldn't 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:12.640 you believe he's alive. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.000 Listen, Not only is he alive, he got a gray beard. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.399 He looked like he foded like a whole family. He's huge, Yes, listen, 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.440 like he been on the couch watching it marble like 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.960 a least the last fifteen years. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.120 Bubbles was born in nineteen eighty three. Now I don't 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.320 keep up with the life expectancy of chimps. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.560 But it's twenty twenty three and Bubbles is still kicking it. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:38.960 I wish he could tell us stories. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.520 Eddie Murphy tells a story. He went to visit Neverland. Yeah, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.959 and he walks in and all of a sudden he 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.320 looks and Bubbles is huge in the cage. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.000 And Michael Jackson says, stay away from Bubbles. He's huge 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:51.200 in me. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.160 Now that's Bubbles, stay away. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.600 That's a hell of way and prescious, by the way, Bubbles, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.560 could you go get us? With Bubble sitting here with 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:06.320 Eddie listen to me, I could only wonder the stories 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:07.040 that this man got. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:14.800 But I also listen Bubbles to me, bubus, Okay, what 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:15.840 other we have? 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.480 Nobody to compare him to. It's a chimp. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.880 But I'm just saying, father star power. Could he be 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.880 the most popular animal on earth? 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:24.960 Yes? 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.600 Can we think of another one? 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.000 He was born in nineteen eighty three and we are 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.120 looking him up today in. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.880 Twenty twenty three. Why should we even know the year 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.560 he was born. I got cousins. I don't know the 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.680 year they was born. Like, listen to me. We're talking 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.640 about a chimp that's been to the Grammys. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.200 We're talking about a chimp that been to Singapore. You're 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.799 talking about the chimp passport. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.160 Got more stamps than ours. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:54.600 Were talked about, a chimp that probably no silent, that's 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.840 probably only eight breakfast. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.079 What's that, Bubbles? Bubbles is hungry? 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.040 Do you need any no pat. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:02.440 He just signed it. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.840 He's lived such a life, like all right, I know 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.840 people think we joke it, I am dead serious. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.840 What were you saying earlier about how the other chimps 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.200 probably like don't like Bubbles because he's not one of them. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.400 Because you said he's at a zoos some. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:19.640 Sort of conservatory or something. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.480 Like the bat you're walking in is you Bubba Jackson? 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.600 And you a regular chimp back there, like, we're not 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.840 dealing with this dude, sail out. This dude don't know 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.440 what it feels like the climb a tree and get 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.480 a banana. This dude don't know how it is to survive. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.760 I've been picking fleas. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.280 I will it back. But in the last ten years 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.960 and here come Bubble here with a pair of polo shorts. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.720 What are you talking about? They hate Bubbles? 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.560 Like you know his real name is in Bubbles. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.800 Yeah, you know, real name Augustine. He's Sailout. You know 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.000 how I be. I have went home after you, Like 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.040 if you get a certain standard. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.520 I go home then like yeah, man, you don't even 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.640 say I'm just saying you a sellout. So I know 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.400 Bubba had to go through this when they him back 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.160 in population, they put him back in Jim Pop. It 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:05.480 is the first thing I want to know. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.080 They gotta put Bubbles in solitary man, protect him. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.680 Because you know they have to, right, That's the thing 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.400 about it. And imagine being a chimp. He comes in 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.000 the room and your girl there, she know who Bubbles is. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.520 He's the only one being on TV. Besides, I used 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:26.320 to watch Dukes had cannon Ball Run. Oh yeah, you 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.920 remember that there was a wrangle tang. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.080 Okay, yes, it's a difference. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.360 It was a ranger tang, and that he wasn't popular 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:33.880 like Bubbles. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.560 No, no, no, they need to do a documentary and 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.159 let Bubbles talk about what he said. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:40.760 He'd smoking a cigarette. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.279 Yeah, life being kind of hard. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.880 Yeah, Mike was cool at first, but I got tired 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.159 of hanging around his neck all the time. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.120 Yeah, and I went on the Thriller or two and 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:51.920 things got kind of crazy out there. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:56.360 You know what I'm saying. But I too owned the monkey. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.680 This is true, This is very true. Okay, all right. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.360 Happened because I had a friend named la Ron Landry. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.080 This goes back to Lauran again, yes, again. And he 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:06.680 looked aways with that he lived. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.880 His monkey was totally thicker than my look like me 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.080 and walking in we had left in years. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.120 His monkey just looking at mine. See here go think 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:15.400 about it. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.400 He called me, said, I know exotic Anima sell it 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.320 in Louise Allaka. He was like, I'm gonna get a monkey. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.280 I was like, okay, what kind of monkey? He was 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.239 like Jack sparrow, put on your shoulder type. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.400 Mon ye get too big. So I'm like, okay, I 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:31.000 do it. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.200 I have an own number of dolls in my life. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.520 Why not try something different. We buy the monkeys, get 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.200 them shipped up. I named mine mister Lewis, mister Lewis Baton. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.599 That's his name, Lewis Baton, mister Lewis, not just Lewis. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.640 He had a certain mister, mister mister now Laurn named 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.760 his the Gucci name there was. So we got Louis 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.960 and we got Gucci. We used to let him play. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.360 We used to have play days and stuff. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:05:59.920 Wait, man, let me get this straight. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.520 You and Laron Landry used to have playdates with the 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.479 two chimps. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.680 That you bought. Don't people do it with dogs? I mean, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:08.080 I guess. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:09.360 So this is a crazy story. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.599 It ain't like I knew my neighbor didn't have a 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.720 monkey that Lewis could play with. I had to call 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.040 the on the other person with a monkey that I knew, Like, hey, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.080 you mockey look kind of bored. You want to get 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.320 them together, Let them play a little PlayStation or something 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.520 like listen. I just want them to have fun, to 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.279 have a life. So We used to get them, and 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.640 we put out these cages in our house. Okay, you 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.480 get a wall, you go like six feet away from 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:32.600 the wall, and you put just. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.560 A cage in it. You put the sticky stuff in Thereah. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.080 So I just put mine in there naturally. But then 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:42.960 I noticed droppings. Finker matter. It was dropping hitting the floor. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.600 So I called him, what we're gonna do about it? 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:44.800 Yeah? 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.599 Yeah, he was like, man, you gotta put a dipe 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:47.400 on them. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:48.080 Now. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:52.920 Imagine twenty three year old friend smooth walking into PetSmart 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.280 looking for monkey diapers. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.040 This is different, sir, You're looking for a monkey diapers. Yeah, 0:06:58.480 --> 0:06:59.960 those would be special er thing. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.560 So I going around all these places. Nobody got diapers. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:04.599 So for the first. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.880 Two days that I did. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.960 So the first two days I used Huggies, I used 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.520 regular Yeah, and I would cut like a hole in 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.880 the back of for the tail because. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.800 Listen, this is crazy to me. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:19.080 Listen. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.280 I had to because if you don't okay, it grabs 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.200 it and it throwing at you. You imagine me opening 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.120 my door and here come mister Lewis. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.920 Just I like, did you eat corn? I don't know 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.120 what happened, but like, what's going on, and I should 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.840 not have to defend myself from a monkey in my house. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.840 So when I finally got. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.320 Him, I used to, I got the pampers and stuff 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.840 would put him on, but he would just not. He 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.600 would mister Lewis was not letting me put the pamples 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.600 on in the right, so he always had one with 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:48.920 a tear in it on the side. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:51.760 Let me ask you a question. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.880 When you were cutting a hole in a pamper's diaper 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.240 for a monkey tail, did you think maybe made a 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:00.840 mistake here? 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.400 Yes, I thought I had made a mistake because I 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.160 love bananas myself. But now I ain't got nothing in 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.560 the house because he and then see, I let him 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.120 run around a little bit, especially like he was the bathroom. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.840 I let him let him run. He gonna go. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.200 Straight to the kitchen table, straight to the fruit bowl, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.880 straight to the bananas. Genetically can take them to him. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.640 They want them, all right. So I kept him for 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.920 about four weeks, five weeks. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.360 Before I had to ship him back. I found out. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.360 Then I'm not Michael Jackson. I cannot raise this thing along. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.480 This is this is this, this. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.200 Needs two parents. This should be a two parent home. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.000 And I couldn't give it to him at that time. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.920 So at the end of the day I sent them back. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.640 While le Rud kept here for like a year and 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.200 a half year or two, he was actually got pretty big. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.800 I could get bigger than you think. And they're smarter 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.480 than you think. I found myself late night watching film 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.000 up the Dallas Cowboys talking to a monkey. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.800 I'm literally watching feel Did you see that? 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:57.400 Did you just see what? 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.400 Did he over that thumb? Listen? It was downhill for me. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:03.680 There was a dark time in my life. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.720 Oh man, I'm sorry you went. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.360 Through that dark time in my life. 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See, 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.280 you know what, when you want to get winners in 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.560 the buildings. See the one thing about us we played football, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.600 but we ain't need nothing, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.000 See I even had yields, I had the. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.360 Same head coaches here, and we still couldn't win nothing. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.480 But we hear right now with the Super Bowl, Champ 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.080 one and only. Gary Clark, thank you for coming to 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:02.719 the show, my brother. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.679 Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.920 You know what was funny is that you sat down 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.120 about thirty seconds in smooth was already talking about matchup. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:12.600 Immediately. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.360 Me and Gary, y'all got your competitive like. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:17.880 We like to talk a little trains to each other. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.160 So we brought up a scenario one day. I don't 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:21.720 think I think we was in the lunch room. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.200 Down here was here, Yeah, and we said what would 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.960 have happened with the matchup with me Champ Bailey and 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:35.319 Dale Green, okay versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, Art Monk 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.520 All right, Now, I didn't say who their quarterback was. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:40.839 It wouldn't matter. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:43.920 Why do you think that matchup? 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:44.000 Go? 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:44.480 Now? 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.560 We's well, multiple super bowls with different quarterbacks. It's all good, man. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.960 So what do you think we got a chance with 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.960 y'all to know, just give us some props. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.880 Ye, I mean y'all would have got us prepared for 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:55.520 the Super Bowl. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.439 Yes, we ain't going to the Super Bowl with y'all. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:10:59.720 Y'all got us. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.040 You would have helped us on the practice squad. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:07.160 But no, seriously, though, I mean you guys man and 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.280 man skills were off the charts. You know, I got 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.000 a chance to watch you guys play. They get a 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.480 chance to play against your course, but I got a 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.240 chance to watch you guys played and just to see 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.080 how you guys would handle the different receivers and quite 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.680 talented receivers that came after we had left the game. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.360 And no, you guys are. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.440 Excellent, excellent cornerbacks. I mean one hundred percent. You guys 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.680 could definitely talk trash and back it up the majority 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.400 of the time. I mean, just the posse's that's a 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:38.240 whole that's that's kind of picking your poison that everybody 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.000 list all three defensive backs would have to be on 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.560 point that game. Yeah, you know, because typically that's cook 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.640 every now and then, you know, like it's not like 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.240 we always had great games every game that we played, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.440 but there was gonna be one or two of us 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.439 that it was always going to come out and shine 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.840 because you know, they weren't getting doubled that day, you know, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.920 so if you didn't double me, I took it as 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:03.559 I took it as an insult. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:05.440 As you should. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.240 I mean, I took it as an insult, and and 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.280 it just made it worse for that team, quite honestly, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.240 because you know, especially if you're doubling with a safety, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.160 If you're double them with two good cornerbacks, that's different. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.360 Like like say like your your main cornerback and then 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:21.199 you're a fifth. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:21.560 Man coming in. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.760 You know, that's different. But you try to double with 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.160 a corner and a safety, they gonna say say safety, safety, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.320 Safety is not used to cover it. They don't cover Yeah, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.199 you know, they're not no. One on one type of thing. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.439 They're always back there. They got that cushion between them. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.040 So if I ever get head up with you and 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.320 your safety, the game's over. It's different if you're a cornerback, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.320 because they know how to retreat. They they know how 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:42.640 to retreat, they know how to cheat, they know how 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:43.920 to hold, they how to do alling, just like and 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.200 we know how to push off, we know how to 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.480 do all those Thames safeties. They're never in that situation typically. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:49.800 Let me ask you this too. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.479 One of your teams got voted the most complete team. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:54.240 Of all time. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:55.440 All right. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.640 I don't know if you sast probably did not even 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:58.520 one Super Bowl. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.480 And I was about to ask you about that. I 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.520 had all the teams you played on. You played on 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.960 some damn good teams. Which one was the most complete? 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:06.280 To you? 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:06.559 Now? 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.680 I know what, I know what the magazine and ESPN 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.920 voted on. Which one was the most complete team? Where 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.880 you you felt like every time, y'all when the first 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.559 quarterball run, y'all, you're like, this is already over. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.280 I'd probably have to say the ninety one I probably 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.120 have to say the ninety one team, just because we 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.960 started off so strong. You know, we could spot you 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.000 a lead and then just come and take it away, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.200 you know, like we And the biggest reason I felt 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.400 that way is no matter even the games that we lost. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.960 Quite Honestwich really was only Dallas, so he thought we'd 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.520 lost against Philadelphia too, But Joe pulled out. He had 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.160 pulled off the starters out of the game because it 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.480 was the playoff situation. But we never thought we was 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.439 out of a game. And that's I mean, that's I 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.240 don't care if it could have been forty to nothing 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.240 in the fourth quarter, yeah, but eight minutes left, we 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.120 still would think we'd win the football game. And it's 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.160 just our mindset was that way. And when you got 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.360 a defenses who was just shutting everybody down, and then 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.920 you got an offense that can score thirty points in 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.880 a quarter if they need to, Yeah, that's a hard 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.719 combination to beat right there. And we just, for some 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.200 reason that year, everything was all cylinders. We didn't have injuries, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.920 everybody was healthy, you know, we went into it. I mean, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.640 quite honestly, we should have went undefeated that season. I'm 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.680 so mad that we didn't go undefeated because everybody wants 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.320 the perfect record. Everybody's chasing the Dolphins, everybody. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:33.720 The Patriots. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.120 Every lost the most important game. But uh but yeah, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:39.960 I mean we thought it was gonna have it that way, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:41.840 and we probably was a little cocky. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.240 Probably know it's a libit. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.440 Yeah, the lost. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:50.480 Honestly, the loss might have been looking could have been 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.360 good because it brought us back to reality. We were 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:58.960 we were like, I mean, we always ready, always were 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.080 kind of a little bit cocky player honestly as a team, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.720 you know. I mean I remember in my first Super 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.520 Bowl with the Hogs. I mean they're telling the Broncos 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.680 what players we're going to run. You know, they're so confident, man, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.680 they may letting them know what it is. And so 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.160 initially I was like, God, so crazy what you're doing. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:16.840 That's when my third year in the league, right, yeah, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.760 I'm like, don't be quiet, you know. But by my 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.160 fourth fifth year and I'm saying, well, I'm telling Dv's 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.280 what I'm going to do, you know, because Stevie don't 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:29.360 know if I'm telling the truth lying to But then 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.280 what you know is that when you do do it, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.880 and then they see that you did do what you 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.600 said you was a good messers are psyched the next 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.440 time you play. Oh yeah, so the next time you 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.239 play them, I'm going to lie to you at that time. Yeah, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:41.560 you know, I'm going to lie to you and tell 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.520 me run some time around. I'm telling them running postma 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:44.120 around corner. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.800 The way the game has changed now, where's such a 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.480 pass happy league. The quarterback is so predicted and we 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.240 see offenses just explode. You look back and say, man, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.040 if I was playing today, my numbers, your numbers were 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.440 already incredible back then. In today's game, I feel like 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.640 they'd be even bigger than they were. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.000 The middle of the field is open, yes it was. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.200 It was closed when he played because they were knocking 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:06.600 peep out. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.280 Yeah you're getting headaches, you know. And and they bought 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.840 me in to be the guy to go across the 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.000 middle of the field. So my initial my first fight, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.320 that's what to me. I'm taking that fifteen yard square in, 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.680 taking that slant, and I was getting headaches every week 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.080 because I was getting the crap knocked. I was to 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.160 do it, but you know, that was like my little 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.000 niche that I was able to do and be able 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.400 to turn into other things. But if I was playing 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.440 in today's game, but the amount of times that they 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:34.400 throw the rock, yeah, I mean, like Terry's finally breaking 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.120 some of my records now, but those records are all 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.160 thirty years old. Yeah, I mean, so, I mean if 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:43.960 I was playing now, where I'm gonna catch a hundred 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.120 balls a year? Yeah, more than one hundred balls a year, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.120 come on now, Yeah, we came in. We came in 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.240 the league when it was a When I first came 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.920 into the league, fifty catches was the thing. Like if 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.440 you got fifty catches, he was considered a good receiver. Yeah, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.560 you know. And then you know they. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.520 Running shoot host in Buffalo sho. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:03.440 Yeah. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.320 And then we turned from like a run first team 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.880 because Joe has always been a run first, throw second team. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.280 We ended up turning it. But he's also looks at 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.399 his personnel. That's what I loved about Joe, Like he 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.360 looks at his personnel. And then it slowly after the 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.439 eighty seventh when we got to about around eighty nineteen 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.640 eighty nine, we was throw pass, set up to run. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.840 Our running back still got a thousand yard yes, yeah, 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.760 but it's because they thought we was going to throw 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.040 the ball three downs out of four downs, you know, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.040 So it started. You know, we had we had a 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.520 Joe was just brilliant and how he mastered that offense. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.919 I mean, this was unbelievable what we could do with it. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:41.400 And he also allowed us to who want to make 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:42.560 a change in the game. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.520 Better work, Yeah, better work, but you can bring it up. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:47.240 But it worked. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.280 But yeah, I brought it up to the quarterback. We 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.480 never brought it up to Joe before. We brought it 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.760 up during the game to the quarterbacks, and then the 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.359 quarterbacks would have to agree to it, of course. But 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.119 you know, it's like anything else. We're the pl It 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.120 was like, for example, you're the defensive back. You know 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.399 if they call a zone, but you know that you 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.560 can shut me down, You're gonna go and shut me down, 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:12.639 just going to I mean so, but you need a 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.720 coach that allows you to do those things and don't 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.639 and then you're not gonna be right every time, you know. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.520 But he doesn't hold that against you, and he still 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.080 allows you to go out there and play your game. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.240 And that's what I loved about Joe. He allowed you know, 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.600 he probably hated me. He even told me, I hate 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.120 you Monday through Saturday. I love you on Sunday day 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.879 all day, you know. So, but he's just he was 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.080 just a magical coach. And you find coaches like that, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:36.360 eventually you win Super Bowl. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.560 Gart I played in pedix Field. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.439 You've watched a million games in pick Field, but you 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.439 played it or you care. Uh, I'm sure it's a 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.520 stark difference in them. Could you paint a picture? Could 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:54.479 you take me on a Sunday afternoon, and it just 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.399 described to me how it felt, maybe even from the 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.960 drive in, like take me to ir f K and 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.760 what made it so special? 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.840 We truly had a twelve man It was unbelievable. I mean, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.320 you come into the stadium and for the most part, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.840 there is no other color jersey in your stadium. Like, 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.560 for example, when we need the crowd defense, I mean 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.960 the offense has a ball on the other team, our 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:27.200 crowd is loud, and when our offense has a team silent. Yeah, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.200 to get stuff into it. I mean it was unbelievable. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.159 And I mean the fans. I mean we had like 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.000 something like an eighty thousand waiting list, you get. I 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.080 mean we're sold out. We're sold out. It was still 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.760 sold out before I got there. Yeah, you know, and 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.160 and again. But when Joe came back to FedEx Field 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:50.439 and FedExField got so a common dominant nomination of that 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.439 is Joe Gibbs. I mean, he he knows how to 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.399 get his the most out of his player. It was 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.240 a different type of player when he came back the 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.680 second time around, it wasn't quite the same type of player. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.800 He didn't have the same, same type of control. Like 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.480 practices were like a little. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.080 Different, a lot lighter than he will know. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:11.200 Like and because you know, we hit, we hit every day. 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.280 We even you know, we put on shorts on Friday, 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.720 shorts and shoulder paths and anytime he had shoulder pads. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:16.280 On, we were going to hit. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:17.600 No we hit, you know. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.480 So now like practices now, I can kind of see 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:26.359 why defensive players tend to miss more tackles now because 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.040 they don't actually hit in practice anymore. And that's it's 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.159 kind of hard if you don't practice your craft to 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.760 become great at it again, you know. I mean if 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.960 I was being a coach, would be a little different. 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.800 I know, coach. As a coach, we can't tell you 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.000 to do that. But what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.720 cut practice short by hour and a half, and I'm 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.920 gonna have my captains on the team like fresh smooth. 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:53.960 I'm saying, y'all got during Yeah, y'all go out during practice. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:55.639 Then they can do it. They won't do all their 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.320 own time, So go out there and get it done. 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.440 Because at the end of the day, the team to 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.040 go the extra mile are the teams that win in 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.320 this mark. And I'm guaranteeing the teams that we see 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.560 that are winning super Bowls, they're doing something that's a 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.920 little different, that's not by the rules. If you ain't cheating, 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:16.400 you ain't trying. 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.520 You ain't trying. Ain't we from the nineties, you learn 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:21.760 a lot. A legend. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.359 That's a legend right now, it's been true. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.760 I mean, think about it, like every play, somebody's cheating 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.239 what it is, somebody's holding, somebody's pushing up, just what 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:31.919 it is, Like I mean, because he is such a 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.280 good defensive back, there's gonna be a lot of times 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.520 that he guesses right what I'm doing and he's right 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.480 on me. So I'm gonna have to push him away 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.160 to kind of get open. There's gonna be times where 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:41.920 he doesn't figure out what I'm doing. He's have to 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:43.680 grab my hand and hold me. But it's not gonna 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.520 look like a whole. The key is mastering your craft, 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.679 and a lot of people they don't master their craft anymore. 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.200 They don't take the time to dig in to practice 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:56.240 over and over and over again. So this this is 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.360 a push off. You see that you do not see that, 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.320 you do not see this push right, But It takes 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.800 time to master that because if not, you're gonna do 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:04.400 that in a game. 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.440 See that. But see now, I had got to the point. 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.239 I know you can't run without your own I used 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.280 to grab, but I used to swing with him, so 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:15.720 I'm not swinging against him. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.119 To you, it looks like nothing. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.879 But they're just running together. 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:21.359 Yes, But now if. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.840 I grab it and don't run with him, it's gonna 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:25.679 look like I'm holding. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.040 So it's tricks, set of trade to get things done. 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.680 I mean, that's exactly what it is. And that's that's 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.760 the game of football, and that's what you love about it, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:34.800 you know you love that. 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:35.399 I have to. 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.359 I would have to sit down and really try to 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.040 analyze how he played as a defensive back. You know 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.720 I did that later end of my career. I should 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.800 have did it, and the very started my career. My career, 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.160 early part of my crew was just so freaking cocky, ridiculous. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.520 It's not fair, it's not fair. I didn't watch film. 0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:59.440 I didn't really watch film probably until my seventh eighth 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:00.000 year in the league. 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:00.760 Is that right? 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:03.120 Be fair? 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.040 I mean, but for me, if I had to give 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:08.600 myself out as you know, how you gotta give yourself 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.639 an as I'd be like I got for the girl 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.439 away to play with a chip on my shoulder now 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.080 and said, okay, now, you don't watch any film, but 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.240 you so. Now you gotta go out there and you 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.200 gotta play hard. You gotta give them one hundred percent. 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.639 You gotta do your thing. But there was games I 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:27.720 should have looked at the damn. I was like, this 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.120 is not a good game, you know. But I think 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.560 as a player, you gotta do whatever gives yourself that 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.439 edge mentally that it allows you to play better. And 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.080 that for me, that's what it wasn't you know what 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.160 if I don't look at him, that means I gotta 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.719 bring my best come sudden, you know, in terms of 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:47.800 but I prepare because preparation is everything everything for a 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.560 player to become Like Fred don't want to be good. 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:51.840 He wanted to be great. That's why he was a 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.159 great cornerback, not just a good cornerback. If you just 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:55.920 want to be good, you gonna be good. If you 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.840 want to be great, you gotta work at it and 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.800 you gotta put in the time. Like when I see people, 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.399 when you see practices over and that feels nobody's on 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:03.800 the field. 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:04.840 They'll tell you everything you need. 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.280 All right, now, I'll know if the teams could be 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:07.760 a good or back. 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:08.080 Yeah. 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:08.720 Yeah. 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.000 And we started this out by saying this whole podcast 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.280 by we were talking to Drail what player loves football, 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:17.520 that's gonna come. 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.520 They coming because they love you. Pay me later, I've 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.640 come to play some football. Yeah, that's the difference. 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.440 Well played football as good as it gets. 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Now I'm a preface. 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.560 He's gonna tell the story. We just played them like 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:37.240 two weeks ago. 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:42.159 Okay, we in New York. Right, we come to the huddle. 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.160 Brandon Jakes just ran me over. 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:45.600 It is Monday night game. 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.520 Yeah, three hundred pounds all right, dude, we get to 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.040 the huddle this man wait wait, relaxed man style. 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.200 I was like, is it me? 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:55.439 Uh? 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.400 These dudes really giants. 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.880 Because we looked at they huddled right, Shock is six 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:05.920 five to fifty Plexico six six two forty Eli six 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.080 Brandon James six A Monday too of the. 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.160 Smallest person on the team six three two. 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.960 Let me let me preface this. Now, this is the 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.200 start of the game. We just played these guys. Now 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.520 we know the conference is big, and smooth comes to me, 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:27.119 this is the first series talking. I said, oh, he 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:28.680 must be already playing in this trip. 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:30.480 He tells me. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.600 They're big and somebody's gonna get hurt. 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:35.480 I said, what. 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:42.200 We played football, I said. I said, we always get hurt. 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.960 Dude ain't over this smile and he ain't got two teeth. 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.639 And then not like we are going to get hurt 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:52.000 to days. 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.800 To me, I said, I said, okay, you're gonna check 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.719 out what you're doing. He said, I just gotta make 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.720 some business decisions. I said, it's the last game to 0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:58.439 see is the Houston. 0:26:58.480 --> 0:26:59.240 We ain't going nowhere? 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:00.520 What? 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.320 And they toss sweeping it to me the first time. 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.960 The first time, I make the tack, cringe tackle like 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.960 I'm hurting. Second time, he just flat out running over. 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.760 And then he ran him over and smoops like kicking 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:15.120 his legs. 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.040 Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna flee in there. I was like, 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.440 you know what, I'm like, run if they run this thing. 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.080 The third time you need to get down here. You 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.119 need to get down here. Now we ran covered to 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:32.320 they tossed it just like I thought. I look back 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:37.640 at the run. I look at Brandon business you said 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:44.520 some time so plus the code kind of grabs. He 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.800 ran himself, you know, ple plus co Helmel block. 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.240 He ran himself out of the plate. 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.320 I'm wrestling with plexa coach slow motion. I turn and 0:27:54.359 --> 0:28:00.080 I look and I see a collision the run and 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:04.240 Brandon Jacobs and Brandon Jacob just crushes him, and I 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.840 think it changed Laburn life. So go to him to 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.440 get him off the ground. He has just looking his eyes. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.480 He comes in there, he just had to look at that. 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:12.880 Now. 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.280 Now, now, I'm gonna tell a story. Comes to me 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:17.440 and he's got his head down on side. 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.919 I said, what's up, dude? He said, I told. 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:24.160 You somebody I've been telling y'all. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.480 Nobody want to listen to me, he said. I said, 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.200 he said, let me tell you something. I said, what's 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:29.959 wrong with Lebron? 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:30.320 He said. 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.440 I said, I've never been the same again. He said, 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.160 I told you so. I'm like, okay, he said. He said, 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:36.800 I'm gonna tell you about it in the film room. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:41.520 But it got bad. Listen, and Lebron happened. I said, 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.200 what happened? He said, it got bad? 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:48.040 And Lebrun changed after this, I mean he turned out 0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.440 the guy killed. He turned into a bodybuild after this. 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.440 I remember when he went nuts on just trying to 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.080 get ripped Withever. 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.120 Yes, Brandon Jacobs brand Brandon Jacob's situation. 0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:01.160 We know the same, La run and I felt like 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:02.080 it was my fault. 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.080 It was the because you put the powder of a 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:05.520 dead body around, Yes. 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:05.920 It was. 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:07.680 It was the chalk line. 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.080 It was a man there when I looked at him, 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:12.320 get up, man, you know. 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:14.360 It up. 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:15.600 It can't be that man. 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.640 Uh like. 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.800 It was one of the worst Collidgeons I ever seen 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.840 in my life and changed my boy. And now to 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.200 the day he won big Nick muscle somewhere, we still 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.680 swollen for no reason. You remember we went out one night. 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.840 He came to my house, so we went out. 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:34.040 We go and get them. 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.320 I wasn't going to he had a monkey. I told 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.480 you about the monkey had. 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:45.080 Time, yes, sir, but listen, he would literally, we're finna 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.080 go out. He came to my house. I like, I 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.080 opened the door for the run. He went right downstairs 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:50.720 like what are you doing? 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:51.000 Dude? 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.680 He went right to my weight room that never got used. 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.640 He's down there lifting weights before we go to the club. 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.280 Are you serious? 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:00.400 I like what you're doing now. He like, I gotta 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:05.520 be a she was walking in here and that was Now. 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.000 I'm gonna do my official apology, Ron Landry. I am 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.360 sorry that I did not squeeze that gap, that I 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.680 did not sacrifice myself. But the football guy said they 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.400 needed a sacrifice at that time, and I read it. 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:25.320 You didn't me. You know it happens. 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:30.760 Man, oh man, you're the worst teammate that indeed. 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.960 Let me tell you another story of jinks. We're playing 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:35.320 against the Rams in preseason. 0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:45.440 Tory Hoape, that's preferences before smoot the size that he's 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:50.640 gonna bother Elsie All. He's gonna get in a fight 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.040 before the game. Like we got in an argument on 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.200 the bus in the locker room. In the locker room 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:57.600 and he told him he was gonna beat him up. 0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:58.040 Me. 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.040 I didn't get along with CP all, la Vernie's all 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.160 these guys because they just like they. 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:07.360 Played too much. 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:08.840 We out here working players. 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.920 See this is out here dominating and you dudes ain't 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:12.480 doing nothing. 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.480 Call him a clowns, show clowns. 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:15.160 At the end of. 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.360 The day, y'all putting up ten points of damn game, 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:22.239 were giving up, died, we can't win, and then you're 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:23.480 laughing every day bringing. 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.120 McDonald's in the damn building like so. 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.440 At the end of the day, check he told him 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.200 they were clowns. It wasn't serious about football. 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.760 And guess what we got rid of Lavernie sit next here, 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.160 and everything else worked itself out. 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.000 So now we in the game. 0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:41.240 Right to catch an outright on you supposed to be 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.240 supposed to be supposed to be a Hall of Famer. 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.040 Damn hard to check. I get up at the tackling here. 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.600 We're playing man, no great player. Week two we're playing 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.120 all man. He doesn't play anything else, straight man against 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.120 the get. He catched the ball on our sideline. I 0:31:55.200 --> 0:32:00.520 get up, look up, said he laughing. Lavernie is laughing. 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.280 I'm like, you know what, when I get back to 0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.960 the sideline, I'm gonna kick your hands and your ass. 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.680 So you young at them while on the Oh yeah. 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.920 Yes, he's gonna fight this guys, he said, When I 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:23.320 get to the sideline, y'all know what it is like man, 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.880 he likes, Man, relax, He's like, you want me to 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.160 jump on the I'm like, what are you talking about? 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.200 You? 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:32.400 So I'm upset. 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:38.000 I'm emotionally there doing the game and I'm like this dude, 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.840 he don't make it any better. 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.520 Like this is what he does. He's attacking this and 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:43.280 that's what he does. 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.040 Oh man, this is funny. Man. I got some stories. 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:48.280 Man. 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.760 The New England Patriot game was that's a funny one. 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:59.200 But listen, I was hurt, so I'm not dressed and 0:32:59.520 --> 0:32:59.880 this is the. 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.680 Let me tell the story. Let me tell the story. 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.480 That week we are gonna play the Patriots, who are undefeated. 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.480 They got Randy Moss, they are scoring, they didn't broke 0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.720 the record halfway during the most prolific offense halfway during 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:22.640 the season. Now we're the number one pass defense. Carlos, myself, Smooth, 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.240 Sean Taylor were Sean was nothing the game and Lawn 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:33.080 Smooth during the week pulls his hamstring right because Jerry 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.200 got us running, go smooth pulling. So we go up 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.240 there still confident. We're down a little bit, but we 0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.360 know our defense is our defense. We go out there 0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.120 and we get fifty put on us. 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:42.760 So bad. 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:47.640 Hear them. It was so bad. 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.840 Yeah, what's the coach of Minnesota? He was the third 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.920 string quarterback. He covered a kick and didn put his 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.920 quarterback helmet on. Kevin the quarterback for minute of the 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:57.920 head coach for Minnesota? What's the head coach for Mine? 0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:58.720 O'Connor? 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.680 Kevin O'Connell, what's thirsteam quarterback? He literally covered a kick. 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.480 At quarterback and then came and put a quarterback helmet 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.000 and then scored two testdowns on us. 0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:09.680 That's that's the true story. 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:11.759 We got whooped, and we go in the locker room 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.520 and coach Gibb goes, hey, man, it happens. 0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.320 Blah blah blah. 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.200 Years later I found out that coach Gibbs pretty much 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.480 got I think coach Belichick fired when he was at 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.880 Cleveland and the Redskins went up there and they just 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.479 smacked him, and Bill got fired. 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.000 He didn't want to get him back, so they wanted 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:26.600 to get him back. 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:28.440 So it was one of those things where we went 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.440 in there and we just got a hammer. Coach Gibbs, 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.879 we get on the plane, I'm like, I'm down, I'm down. 0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.000 Smooth goes tell me, he said, you know, would been 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.319 different if I played. 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.840 You know how we were missing with me right, I 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.440 sat by fifty. 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.479 But if it had been different if I played played 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:47.759 with the. 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:49.880 War Hey Collos tears his knee up. 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:51.279 Oh yeah, that's third playing. 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:58.160 You need to be killful. They all burning people help 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.880 in right, you need to be careful. 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.879 I'm on Randy Moss like I think I know. I'm 0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:08.640 checking masks the oldest over there getting touch like, I'm 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.839 on the sideline and I'm like, you know what, try 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:11.440 to coach you up? 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.439 They run a do we know that? 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:20.239 But I'm always coaching from the sideline A go because 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.799 I'm a team player. Like if I can't play, at 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.160 least I can share some knowledge. Now I just seen 0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:26.560 Tom do this to Randy. 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:32.440 Watch out. I'm looking like you need to watch out? 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.279 And then what I that what I love about the 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.600 game though people don't really get. It's a game inside 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.480 the game that only players get to share. And I 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.399 think that's the that's the memories we take. 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Follow him on Twitter at Rentley twelve. 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.160 He's a former NFL draft scout, yeah, draft analyst, and 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.719 he had this really great thread not too long ago 0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:21.320 where he compared NFL quarterbacks draft quarterbacks yeah to characters 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.000 from Game of Thrones, and you, more than anyone I know, 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.160 is a huge Game of Thrones guy. 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.000 I thoroughly enjoy it, enjoyed it. 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.560 I was mad at you, though, because I wanted you 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.520 to do old lineman. I want the hound to come 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.040 in there. I want you to do some defense, lab, 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.239 I want you to like Once I seen him do that, 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.600 it started my it started my wheels. 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:39.640 To turn, and I was like, well, yeah, I can 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.280 compare some of these guys also. 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.080 Okay, so I'm gonna throw out a few of these. Yeah, 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.440 and Fred, I'm gonna let you guys. I'm gonna enjoy it, 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:48.040 like everyone. 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.759 Wait, let's go to Western ROAs on him right quick. 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:51.839 I'm probably gonna get something. 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.000 Caleb williams Oberon Martel. 0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.879 I was shocked that you pick ober In with Kate, 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.239 because when I see Caleb, all I can think of 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.360 is the Prince who was promised. 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.640 All I can think of is John Snow. 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:13.120 You know, it's been so much said about Caleb Williams, 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.719 and I'm talking about two, three, four years. 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.239 He just hung around this So I was like. 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.799 You know what, to me, Caleb Posita the star of 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.040 this show. He's the prince who was promised. He's Robert Barratian, 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.640 meaning he has been up there so long that he's 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.600 got the fat red disease that he. 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.040 Doesn't rule like he used to rule. What do you 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.600 think about those two comparisons. 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.879 I do like the John Snow comparison, just just for 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.080 the prince I was promised. I think that is a 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:46.879 great obviously saying that could be attached to Caleb Williams. 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:52.000 The thing with John Snow is though, like he is 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.480 much more of the stoic, much more of the play 0:38:55.520 --> 0:39:00.520 with instructure, certainly not a risk taker. By he means 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.040 he's he's not that guy were Caleb Williams. You know, 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.160 his main kind of you know, you want to call 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.440 it a down you know, negative trade or you know 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.319 we're scouting him mean Some of his concerns is he 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:16.640 plays too much out of structure, he invites chaos, doesn't 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.680 like to take the small wins, loves to go for 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.399 the kind of hero shot, the kill ball, and that 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.359 leads me to ober and Martella. I mean, look, he 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.240 is one of, if not the greatest fighter in Western 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:33.080 I's history, a master and a bunch of a bunch 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.839 of different kind of poisons and things like that, very 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.040 similar to Caleb william Is. Where Caleb can you know, 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.240 throw from different armis armed angles, he can throw off platform. 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.960 Oberin can kill off platform. He can kill from a 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:49.520 different lot of different angles. And to me, the issues 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:56.000 that both would have or they're very much over not excessive, 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.200 but they try to do too much right, They can't 0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.800 just take the he win, lived to fight the next down. 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.640 We saw with Caleb Williams this year at USC refuse 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.719 to take the shutdown, refuse to throw the ball, the 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.959 ball away that would cause interceptions that called turnovers. Ober 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.440 and Martel refuse to just take the easy win against 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:20.799 the mountain, got to cocky, started talking and gave up 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.680 the wing. So I like the John Snow comparison, but 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.480 I got to stick at my ober Marteau one, Oh. 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:27.920 I like that one. I like that he kind of 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.040 he kind of sliced and dice me right there. But 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.360 the Prince's problems, I thought it was just so perfect 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:32.759 right there. 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.480 Do both of these guys paint their nails? 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.560 I don't know, no, no, no, you know what Obra 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:41.120 and Martel. He is the guy I do that. I 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:42.759 know he is the guy to do that. 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.799 And he's flashy. He's right about there. He's flashy. He's 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.200 gonna be edgy when he do stuff. And also he 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.560 had the mountain right where he wanted him and he 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.000 just had to just just splurge a little bit too 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.160 long cost him his life. 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.880 Let's go with another one here, Drake May Rob Stark. 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.759 Now, when you said Drake May is Rob Stark, I 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.520 tried to think. I looked around and I said, you 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:09.200 know what, so litt Jamie Lanister in there, the best 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:10.799 saw it in Western roast over there. 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.640 But then when you when you said Rob Stark, I said, yeah, 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:14.440 the young wolf. 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.560 And I looked at the quarterbacks, and he is the 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.880 youngest out the bunch. One of the best leaders. 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.160 Can't be overzealous at some time. 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.959 So I actually agreed it was one of the few 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.720 I agreed with you with Rob Stark. 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.239 Tell me why you chose Rob at this one? 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.400 Yeah, So you know, Rob starts and Drake May, I 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.399 think makes a lot of sense. As you mentioned, Uh, 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.839 you know, Rob Stark's nicknaming the show is the Young 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.400 Wolf and Drake May is the youngest of these quarterback prospects, 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.400 and really both had a lot of success early on 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:52.080 in their careers. Think about Drake May, he first popped 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.480 under the scene as true freshman. I mean he was phenomenal, 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.360 and then he followed up the freshman year with a great, 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.279 great sophomore year. And and look at Rob Stark, I 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:06.200 mean he won his first four battles, got three battles 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.600 in the Battles of the Five Kings, one obviously at 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.239 the Whispering Would where he was able to kind of 0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.560 capture Jamie l Anister. So I mean, I see a 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:18.440 lot of similarities with the early success. But with that 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:23.520 early success led to kind of their later struggles. Right 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:27.520 where Drake May, I think he had such early success, 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:31.200 he was really over confident in his ability to make 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.000 some throws. I think Drake may Is issue is he 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:37.000 has a rocket arm, He's very accurate down the field, 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.719 he knows where to go to football, but there are 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.440 times where he takes these risks. He makes these decisions 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.399 that our dress will watch. 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:46.120 You make that throw. 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.120 You know you're throwing into double coverage. 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.000 I know you can get it. 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:53.040 There, but there's higher percentage throws available. You didn't have 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.000 to take that risk. Same with Rob Stark. I mean 0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.360 he did not have to cross the you know, cross 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.239 the bridge to the to the Twins to try to 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.799 go through Walter Frey after he already betrayed him, like 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.719 he didn't have to execute his his bannerman more cars 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:12.919 start was. There's unnecessary risks that both of them take 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.319 later in their career that I think stemmed from their 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.520 early success, and so I think that makes a lot 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.759 of sense. They both have high upside. I love me 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.839 about to start. He was a character before his untimely end. 0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.480 But I think this one makes a lot of sense. 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.319 I see a lot of Denari's first husband, Joe Goo 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.640 in him too, because he started off, like you said, 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:37.480 started off so fast, but then framed out before he 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.640 even could get started. 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.160 All these cameras are coming. 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:40.919 I like that. 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:46.600 I like that going to be like I might get 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.839 this name wrong, Jane Daniels, and are you start? Are 0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.239 your stock? You hit it right on the head right there. 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.680 Now, this is one that I really really gotta get 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.880 you on right here, because why do you are you for? 0:43:58.960 --> 0:43:59.720 Jane Daniels? 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.920 Yeah, you know, for me, it's the career growth, right. 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.160 You think about where Aria started. She was, I think 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.360 the know, the thirty youngest of the Stark children, the 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.880 youngest little girl of the Stark children. And she really 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:18.799 kind of went after Ned was executed. She had to 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.600 go into hiding with the up to the wall with 0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.440 God blaking on his knee. But you know, up up 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.719 up to the wall, right with the hound and the 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.120 guy from the Gosh the Knight's Watch, and her journey, 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.279 I mean she's in rags to rickets, right, she is 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.759 literally sleeping on the road on the King's Road is 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.680 at the lowest point, and you know, you just see 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.839 her evolution from okay, yeah, she's on the King's Round 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.239 as a traveler, and then she goes to Bravos and 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.799 learns the ways of the many faced Men, and then 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.080 she comes back to West ROAs and kind of seeks 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.720 yourvenge for the starts and you just kind of see 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:04.000 her grow step steps season by season, which ultimately leads 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.000 her to kind of be the hero of the show 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:08.600 in The Long Night, where she kind of is able 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.600 to make the finishing kill against the Night King and Cyber. 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.680 Spoilers for those who haven't watched the game with the rounds, 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.080 but at that point you probably should have by now, 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.359 so I don't feel too bad. I think Jayden Daniels, right, 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.640 Jayden Daniels, I mean think I'm a Pac twelve guy. 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:25.120 You see the Oregon stuff. I've watched Jayden Daniels since 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.040 his true freshman year at Arizona State. I think this 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.040 is back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, so I mean 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.160 he played Herbert. I mean, so he's been around the block. 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:39.480 You see him steadily improved year after year after year 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.919 after year, which obviously culminates to this past year, which 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.480 legend in the Heiden Trophy led him to go from 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:51.080 a mid round quarterback who has some athleticism, has some 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:55.680 upside to now a surefire top five prospect, a guy 0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.840 who is arguably the second best quarterback in this class. 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.120 I think there's a lot of similarities in the growth 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.239 of the two. You know, of Aria and Jaden Daniels, 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.520 and then it's fun. Obviously, I can kind of view 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.600 the dual threat thing. Aria obviously really good with the 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:14.120 sword but also has a dual threat with the ability to. 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.320 Change faces and a kind of stuff. 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.240 Yeah, exactly, and Jane and Daniels obviously with his legs 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.000 in his arm. And then lastly the slender frames. I 0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.280 think it's an easy kind of throwing. Dad and Daniels scrownie, 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:31.560 very slight, Aria obviously very slight, very scrownie. Both have to, 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.920 you know, take better care in terms of not taking 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:38.440 big hits, not taking shots to make sure they last 0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.080 in their careers. And so I really like this one. 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:41.440 I liked them. 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:42.360 Surprised he didn't like it. 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.400 No, I did, Like you, I like to throw a 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:45.400 card ball in there. 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.520 Speaking of the many face men, jack and hood gud 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.239 who that's who I when I looked at it, I'm like, 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:51.480 you know. 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.680 What, because he got many faces. 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.040 Jane Daniels, like you said, he started all kind of 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:59.280 slow in Arizona State. Indeed, he busted on the scene 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.759 and unless you and he became the kingslive. So at 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.440 the end of the day, when I say Jackie hjoh. 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.840 I'm saying, which face am I getting from jayde Daniels? 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:09.200 Like? 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:13.160 Is he a little bit of RG three? Is he 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:17.160 more CJ? Scrubb is like when you see him who like? 0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:20.239 Sometimes he confuses me? And that's why I chose JACKI 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.480 and Hujah because I like, that's a dude that got 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.360 many faces. He could be who he needs to be. 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:25.480 You brought that up. 0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:27.640 He could be who he needs to be any game. 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.160 If he needs to rest for one hundred yards, he 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:30.560 a rest for one hundred. Yet if you need to 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:31.839 throw for four hundred, he could throw. 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:33.400 For four hundred. So I thought you would go with 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.000 him because he can adjest to any situation. 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:37.480 Like that. 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.160 I really like that angle. 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:39.879 Love that angle. 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:44.080 Actually he's Brientley Weisman, former NFL scout and draft and 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:47.279 let's follow him on Twitter at Brentley twelve. Obviously he 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.120 knows his Game of Thrones as well, and we appreciate 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.640 the time Brientley, thank you so much. Thanks for being 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.759 with us here to get loud podcasts. 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