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Speaker 2: we're gonna take a look back now at the best
Speaker 2: of the best from the last year.
Speaker 3: Man, We've had a ton of good times.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 5: We found Bubba Jackson's he's resting in the home in Florida.
Speaker 5: Most definitely he like art, he liked music. Plus Michael
Speaker 5: left him millions of dollars with about Gary Clark. Gary
Speaker 5: was so good on this podcast and Bluefoot he's always
Speaker 5: a great guy that stops by. We got a lot
Speaker 5: of stuff we talk about on this podcast, and that's
Speaker 5: all coming.
Speaker 3: Up next to right now. Do you want to preview
Speaker 3: the falcons to talk about Bubbles?
Speaker 1: First, let's talk about Bubbles.
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna say that, So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: You know, Michael Jackson, remember Bubbles, his chimp, his baby chimp.
Speaker 5: You know, Bubbas Jackson. Bubbus Jackson was the first emotional animal.
Speaker 5: He started to jumper, you know, because I'd be walking
Speaker 5: in I'll be walking in the Groce store and somebody
Speaker 5: be like, yeah, like this parrot on my shoulder because
Speaker 5: I need him for emotional well being.
Speaker 1: I'm like, my god. Where they used to be Bubbles.
Speaker 5: Yes, Bubbles started it, mister Bubbles Jackson and.
Speaker 1: Meubus Jackson, that's his name. Then guess what we did.
Speaker 1: We gooed to see where he was today. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: you believe he's alive.
Speaker 5: Listen, Not only is he alive, he got a gray beard.
Speaker 5: He looked like he foded like a whole family. He's huge, Yes, listen,
Speaker 5: like he been on the couch watching it marble like
Speaker 5: a least the last fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Bubbles was born in nineteen eighty three. Now I don't
Speaker 1: keep up with the life expectancy of chimps.
Speaker 5: But it's twenty twenty three and Bubbles is still kicking it.
Speaker 1: I wish he could tell us stories.
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy tells a story. He went to visit Neverland. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he walks in and all of a sudden he
Speaker 2: looks and Bubbles is huge in the cage.
Speaker 3: And Michael Jackson says, stay away from Bubbles. He's huge
Speaker 3: in me.
Speaker 2: Now that's Bubbles, stay away.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of way and prescious, by the way, Bubbles,
Speaker 1: could you go get us? With Bubble sitting here with
Speaker 1: Eddie listen to me, I could only wonder the stories
Speaker 1: that this man got.
Speaker 5: But I also listen Bubbles to me, bubus, Okay, what
Speaker 5: other we have?
Speaker 1: Nobody to compare him to. It's a chimp.
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, father star power. Could he be
Speaker 5: the most popular animal on earth?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: Can we think of another one?
Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen eighty three and we are
Speaker 2: looking him up today in.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three. Why should we even know the year
Speaker 1: he was born. I got cousins. I don't know the
Speaker 1: year they was born. Like, listen to me. We're talking
Speaker 1: about a chimp that's been to the Grammys.
Speaker 5: We're talking about a chimp that been to Singapore. You're
Speaker 5: talking about the chimp passport.
Speaker 1: Got more stamps than ours.
Speaker 5: Were talked about, a chimp that probably no silent, that's
Speaker 5: probably only eight breakfast.
Speaker 3: What's that, Bubbles? Bubbles is hungry?
Speaker 1: Do you need any no pat.
Speaker 3: He just signed it.
Speaker 5: He's lived such a life, like all right, I know
Speaker 5: people think we joke it, I am dead serious.
Speaker 2: What were you saying earlier about how the other chimps
Speaker 2: probably like don't like Bubbles because he's not one of them.
Speaker 1: Because you said he's at a zoos some.
Speaker 3: Sort of conservatory or something.
Speaker 1: Like the bat you're walking in is you Bubba Jackson?
Speaker 5: And you a regular chimp back there, like, we're not
Speaker 5: dealing with this dude, sail out. This dude don't know
Speaker 5: what it feels like the climb a tree and get
Speaker 5: a banana. This dude don't know how it is to survive.
Speaker 5: I've been picking fleas.
Speaker 1: I will it back. But in the last ten years
Speaker 1: and here come Bubble here with a pair of polo shorts.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? They hate Bubbles?
Speaker 3: Like you know his real name is in Bubbles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, real name Augustine. He's Sailout. You know
Speaker 1: how I be. I have went home after you, Like
Speaker 1: if you get a certain standard.
Speaker 5: I go home then like yeah, man, you don't even
Speaker 5: say I'm just saying you a sellout. So I know
Speaker 5: Bubba had to go through this when they him back
Speaker 5: in population, they put him back in Jim Pop. It
Speaker 5: is the first thing I want to know.
Speaker 3: They gotta put Bubbles in solitary man, protect him.
Speaker 5: Because you know they have to, right, That's the thing
Speaker 5: about it. And imagine being a chimp. He comes in
Speaker 5: the room and your girl there, she know who Bubbles is.
Speaker 5: He's the only one being on TV. Besides, I used
Speaker 5: to watch Dukes had cannon Ball Run. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 5: remember that there was a wrangle tang.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, it's a difference.
Speaker 1: It was a ranger tang, and that he wasn't popular
Speaker 1: like Bubbles.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they need to do a documentary and
Speaker 2: let Bubbles talk about what he said.
Speaker 3: He'd smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 1: Yeah, life being kind of hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike was cool at first, but I got tired
Speaker 2: of hanging around his neck all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I went on the Thriller or two and
Speaker 5: things got kind of crazy out there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I too owned the monkey.
Speaker 1: This is true, This is very true. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Happened because I had a friend named la Ron Landry.
Speaker 3: This goes back to Lauran again, yes, again. And he
Speaker 3: looked aways with that he lived.
Speaker 5: His monkey was totally thicker than my look like me
Speaker 5: and walking in we had left in years.
Speaker 1: His monkey just looking at mine. See here go think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: He called me, said, I know exotic Anima sell it
Speaker 5: in Louise Allaka. He was like, I'm gonna get a monkey.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, what kind of monkey? He was
Speaker 5: like Jack sparrow, put on your shoulder type.
Speaker 1: Mon ye get too big. So I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 5: I have an own number of dolls in my life.
Speaker 5: Why not try something different. We buy the monkeys, get
Speaker 5: them shipped up. I named mine mister Lewis, mister Lewis Baton.
Speaker 5: That's his name, Lewis Baton, mister Lewis, not just Lewis.
Speaker 5: He had a certain mister, mister mister now Laurn named
Speaker 5: his the Gucci name there was. So we got Louis
Speaker 5: and we got Gucci. We used to let him play.
Speaker 5: We used to have play days and stuff.
Speaker 3: Wait, man, let me get this straight.
Speaker 2: You and Laron Landry used to have playdates with the
Speaker 2: two chimps.
Speaker 1: That you bought. Don't people do it with dogs? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: So this is a crazy story.
Speaker 5: It ain't like I knew my neighbor didn't have a
Speaker 5: monkey that Lewis could play with. I had to call
Speaker 5: the on the other person with a monkey that I knew, Like, hey,
Speaker 5: you mockey look kind of bored. You want to get
Speaker 5: them together, Let them play a little PlayStation or something
Speaker 5: like listen. I just want them to have fun, to
Speaker 5: have a life. So We used to get them, and
Speaker 5: we put out these cages in our house. Okay, you
Speaker 5: get a wall, you go like six feet away from
Speaker 5: the wall, and you put just.
Speaker 1: A cage in it. You put the sticky stuff in Thereah.
Speaker 5: So I just put mine in there naturally. But then
Speaker 5: I noticed droppings. Finker matter. It was dropping hitting the floor.
Speaker 5: So I called him, what we're gonna do about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, man, you gotta put a dipe
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: Imagine twenty three year old friend smooth walking into PetSmart
Speaker 5: looking for monkey diapers.
Speaker 3: This is different, sir, You're looking for a monkey diapers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those would be special er thing.
Speaker 5: So I going around all these places. Nobody got diapers.
Speaker 5: So for the first.
Speaker 1: Two days that I did.
Speaker 5: So the first two days I used Huggies, I used
Speaker 5: regular Yeah, and I would cut like a hole in
Speaker 5: the back of for the tail because.
Speaker 1: Listen, this is crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 5: I had to because if you don't okay, it grabs
Speaker 5: it and it throwing at you. You imagine me opening
Speaker 5: my door and here come mister Lewis.
Speaker 1: Just I like, did you eat corn? I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened, but like, what's going on, and I should
Speaker 1: not have to defend myself from a monkey in my house.
Speaker 1: So when I finally got.
Speaker 5: Him, I used to, I got the pampers and stuff
Speaker 5: would put him on, but he would just not. He
Speaker 5: would mister Lewis was not letting me put the pamples
Speaker 5: on in the right, so he always had one with
Speaker 5: a tear in it on the side.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: When you were cutting a hole in a pamper's diaper
Speaker 2: for a monkey tail, did you think maybe made a
Speaker 2: mistake here?
Speaker 5: Yes, I thought I had made a mistake because I
Speaker 5: love bananas myself. But now I ain't got nothing in
Speaker 5: the house because he and then see, I let him
Speaker 5: run around a little bit, especially like he was the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I let him let him run. He gonna go.
Speaker 5: Straight to the kitchen table, straight to the fruit bowl,
Speaker 5: straight to the bananas. Genetically can take them to him.
Speaker 5: They want them, all right. So I kept him for
Speaker 5: about four weeks, five weeks.
Speaker 1: Before I had to ship him back. I found out.
Speaker 5: Then I'm not Michael Jackson. I cannot raise this thing along.
Speaker 1: This is this is this, this.
Speaker 5: Needs two parents. This should be a two parent home.
Speaker 5: And I couldn't give it to him at that time.
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day I sent them back.
Speaker 5: While le Rud kept here for like a year and
Speaker 5: a half year or two, he was actually got pretty big.
Speaker 5: I could get bigger than you think. And they're smarter
Speaker 5: than you think. I found myself late night watching film
Speaker 5: up the Dallas Cowboys talking to a monkey.
Speaker 1: I'm literally watching feel Did you see that?
Speaker 6: Did you just see what?
Speaker 1: Did he over that thumb? Listen? It was downhill for me.
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Speaker 2: and legend. This Gary Clark, one of the greats to
Speaker 2: ever play receiver for this organization.
Speaker 5: How are you the man, the mill, the legend. See,
Speaker 5: you know what, when you want to get winners in
Speaker 5: the buildings. See the one thing about us we played football,
Speaker 5: but we ain't need nothing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: See I even had yields, I had the.
Speaker 1: Same head coaches here, and we still couldn't win nothing.
Speaker 5: But we hear right now with the Super Bowl, Champ
Speaker 5: one and only. Gary Clark, thank you for coming to
Speaker 5: the show, my brother.
Speaker 7: Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You know what was funny is that you sat down
Speaker 2: about thirty seconds in smooth was already talking about matchup.
Speaker 6: Immediately.
Speaker 4: Me and Gary, y'all got your competitive like.
Speaker 6: We like to talk a little trains to each other.
Speaker 6: So we brought up a scenario one day. I don't
Speaker 6: think I think we was in the lunch room.
Speaker 5: Down here was here, Yeah, and we said what would
Speaker 5: have happened with the matchup with me Champ Bailey and
Speaker 5: Dale Green, okay versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, Art Monk
Speaker 5: All right, Now, I didn't say who their quarterback was.
Speaker 7: It wouldn't matter.
Speaker 6: Why do you think that matchup?
Speaker 2: Go?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 7: We's well, multiple super bowls with different quarterbacks. It's all good, man.
Speaker 6: So what do you think we got a chance with
Speaker 6: y'all to know, just give us some props.
Speaker 7: Ye, I mean y'all would have got us prepared for
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yes, we ain't going to the Super Bowl with y'all.
Speaker 4: Y'all got us.
Speaker 3: You would have helped us on the practice squad.
Speaker 7: But no, seriously, though, I mean you guys man and
Speaker 7: man skills were off the charts. You know, I got
Speaker 7: a chance to watch you guys play. They get a
Speaker 7: chance to play against your course, but I got a
Speaker 7: chance to watch you guys played and just to see
Speaker 7: how you guys would handle the different receivers and quite
Speaker 7: talented receivers that came after we had left the game.
Speaker 4: And no, you guys are.
Speaker 7: Excellent, excellent cornerbacks. I mean one hundred percent. You guys
Speaker 7: could definitely talk trash and back it up the majority
Speaker 7: of the time. I mean, just the posse's that's a
Speaker 7: whole that's that's kind of picking your poison that everybody
Speaker 7: list all three defensive backs would have to be on
Speaker 7: point that game. Yeah, you know, because typically that's cook
Speaker 7: every now and then, you know, like it's not like
Speaker 7: we always had great games every game that we played,
Speaker 7: but there was gonna be one or two of us
Speaker 7: that it was always going to come out and shine
Speaker 7: because you know, they weren't getting doubled that day, you know,
Speaker 7: so if you didn't double me, I took it as
Speaker 7: I took it as an insult.
Speaker 6: As you should.
Speaker 7: I mean, I took it as an insult, and and
Speaker 7: it just made it worse for that team, quite honestly,
Speaker 7: because you know, especially if you're doubling with a safety,
Speaker 7: If you're double them with two good cornerbacks, that's different.
Speaker 7: Like like say like your your main cornerback and then
Speaker 7: you're a fifth.
Speaker 6: Man coming in.
Speaker 7: You know, that's different. But you try to double with
Speaker 7: a corner and a safety, they gonna say say safety, safety,
Speaker 7: Safety is not used to cover it. They don't cover Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, they're not no. One on one type of thing.
Speaker 7: They're always back there. They got that cushion between them.
Speaker 7: So if I ever get head up with you and
Speaker 7: your safety, the game's over. It's different if you're a cornerback,
Speaker 7: because they know how to retreat. They they know how
Speaker 7: to retreat, they know how to cheat, they know how
Speaker 7: to hold, they how to do alling, just like and
Speaker 7: we know how to push off, we know how to
Speaker 7: do all those Thames safeties. They're never in that situation typically.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this too.
Speaker 5: One of your teams got voted the most complete team.
Speaker 1: Of all time.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you sast probably did not even
Speaker 7: one Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: And I was about to ask you about that. I
Speaker 5: had all the teams you played on. You played on
Speaker 5: some damn good teams. Which one was the most complete?
Speaker 1: To you?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: I know what, I know what the magazine and ESPN
Speaker 5: voted on. Which one was the most complete team? Where
Speaker 5: you you felt like every time, y'all when the first
Speaker 5: quarterball run, y'all, you're like, this is already over.
Speaker 7: I'd probably have to say the ninety one I probably
Speaker 7: have to say the ninety one team, just because we
Speaker 7: started off so strong. You know, we could spot you
Speaker 7: a lead and then just come and take it away,
Speaker 7: you know, like we And the biggest reason I felt
Speaker 7: that way is no matter even the games that we lost.
Speaker 7: Quite Honestwich really was only Dallas, so he thought we'd
Speaker 7: lost against Philadelphia too, But Joe pulled out. He had
Speaker 7: pulled off the starters out of the game because it
Speaker 7: was the playoff situation. But we never thought we was
Speaker 7: out of a game. And that's I mean, that's I
Speaker 7: don't care if it could have been forty to nothing
Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter, yeah, but eight minutes left, we
Speaker 7: still would think we'd win the football game. And it's
Speaker 7: just our mindset was that way. And when you got
Speaker 7: a defenses who was just shutting everybody down, and then
Speaker 7: you got an offense that can score thirty points in
Speaker 7: a quarter if they need to, Yeah, that's a hard
Speaker 7: combination to beat right there. And we just, for some
Speaker 7: reason that year, everything was all cylinders. We didn't have injuries,
Speaker 7: everybody was healthy, you know, we went into it. I mean,
Speaker 7: quite honestly, we should have went undefeated that season. I'm
Speaker 7: so mad that we didn't go undefeated because everybody wants
Speaker 7: the perfect record. Everybody's chasing the Dolphins, everybody.
Speaker 4: The Patriots.
Speaker 7: Every lost the most important game. But uh but yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean we thought it was gonna have it that way,
Speaker 7: and we probably was a little cocky.
Speaker 6: Probably know it's a libit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lost.
Speaker 7: Honestly, the loss might have been looking could have been
Speaker 7: good because it brought us back to reality. We were
Speaker 7: we were like, I mean, we always ready, always were
Speaker 7: kind of a little bit cocky player honestly as a team,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean I remember in my first Super
Speaker 7: Bowl with the Hogs. I mean they're telling the Broncos
Speaker 7: what players we're going to run. You know, they're so confident, man,
Speaker 7: they may letting them know what it is. And so
Speaker 7: initially I was like, God, so crazy what you're doing.
Speaker 7: That's when my third year in the league, right, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm like, don't be quiet, you know. But by my
Speaker 7: fourth fifth year and I'm saying, well, I'm telling Dv's
Speaker 7: what I'm going to do, you know, because Stevie don't
Speaker 7: know if I'm telling the truth lying to But then
Speaker 7: what you know is that when you do do it,
Speaker 7: and then they see that you did do what you
Speaker 7: said you was a good messers are psyched the next
Speaker 7: time you play. Oh yeah, so the next time you
Speaker 7: play them, I'm going to lie to you at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm going to lie to you and tell
Speaker 7: me run some time around. I'm telling them running postma
Speaker 7: around corner.
Speaker 2: The way the game has changed now, where's such a
Speaker 2: pass happy league. The quarterback is so predicted and we
Speaker 2: see offenses just explode. You look back and say, man,
Speaker 2: if I was playing today, my numbers, your numbers were
Speaker 2: already incredible back then. In today's game, I feel like
Speaker 2: they'd be even bigger than they were.
Speaker 5: The middle of the field is open, yes it was.
Speaker 5: It was closed when he played because they were knocking
Speaker 5: peep out.
Speaker 7: Yeah you're getting headaches, you know. And and they bought
Speaker 7: me in to be the guy to go across the
Speaker 7: middle of the field. So my initial my first fight,
Speaker 7: that's what to me. I'm taking that fifteen yard square in,
Speaker 7: taking that slant, and I was getting headaches every week
Speaker 7: because I was getting the crap knocked. I was to
Speaker 7: do it, but you know, that was like my little
Speaker 7: niche that I was able to do and be able
Speaker 7: to turn into other things. But if I was playing
Speaker 7: in today's game, but the amount of times that they
Speaker 7: throw the rock, yeah, I mean, like Terry's finally breaking
Speaker 7: some of my records now, but those records are all
Speaker 7: thirty years old. Yeah, I mean, so, I mean if
Speaker 7: I was playing now, where I'm gonna catch a hundred
Speaker 7: balls a year? Yeah, more than one hundred balls a year,
Speaker 7: come on now, Yeah, we came in. We came in
Speaker 7: the league when it was a When I first came
Speaker 7: into the league, fifty catches was the thing. Like if
Speaker 7: you got fifty catches, he was considered a good receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know. And then you know they.
Speaker 6: Running shoot host in Buffalo sho.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then we turned from like a run first team
Speaker 7: because Joe has always been a run first, throw second team.
Speaker 7: We ended up turning it. But he's also looks at
Speaker 7: his personnel. That's what I loved about Joe, Like he
Speaker 7: looks at his personnel. And then it slowly after the
Speaker 7: eighty seventh when we got to about around eighty nineteen
Speaker 7: eighty nine, we was throw pass, set up to run.
Speaker 7: Our running back still got a thousand yard yes, yeah,
Speaker 7: but it's because they thought we was going to throw
Speaker 7: the ball three downs out of four downs, you know,
Speaker 7: So it started. You know, we had we had a
Speaker 7: Joe was just brilliant and how he mastered that offense.
Speaker 7: I mean, this was unbelievable what we could do with it.
Speaker 7: And he also allowed us to who want to make
Speaker 7: a change in the game.
Speaker 4: Better work, Yeah, better work, but you can bring it up.
Speaker 6: But it worked.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I brought it up to the quarterback. We
Speaker 7: never brought it up to Joe before. We brought it
Speaker 7: up during the game to the quarterbacks, and then the
Speaker 7: quarterbacks would have to agree to it, of course. But
Speaker 7: you know, it's like anything else. We're the pl It
Speaker 7: was like, for example, you're the defensive back. You know
Speaker 7: if they call a zone, but you know that you
Speaker 7: can shut me down, You're gonna go and shut me down,
Speaker 7: just going to I mean so, but you need a
Speaker 7: coach that allows you to do those things and don't
Speaker 7: and then you're not gonna be right every time, you know.
Speaker 7: But he doesn't hold that against you, and he still
Speaker 7: allows you to go out there and play your game.
Speaker 7: And that's what I loved about Joe. He allowed you know,
Speaker 7: he probably hated me. He even told me, I hate
Speaker 7: you Monday through Saturday. I love you on Sunday day
Speaker 7: all day, you know. So, but he's just he was
Speaker 7: just a magical coach. And you find coaches like that,
Speaker 7: eventually you win Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Gart I played in pedix Field.
Speaker 5: You've watched a million games in pick Field, but you
Speaker 5: played it or you care. Uh, I'm sure it's a
Speaker 5: stark difference in them. Could you paint a picture? Could
Speaker 5: you take me on a Sunday afternoon, and it just
Speaker 5: described to me how it felt, maybe even from the
Speaker 5: drive in, like take me to ir f K and
Speaker 5: what made it so special?
Speaker 7: We truly had a twelve man It was unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 7: you come into the stadium and for the most part,
Speaker 7: there is no other color jersey in your stadium. Like,
Speaker 7: for example, when we need the crowd defense, I mean
Speaker 7: the offense has a ball on the other team, our
Speaker 7: crowd is loud, and when our offense has a team silent. Yeah,
Speaker 7: to get stuff into it. I mean it was unbelievable.
Speaker 7: And I mean the fans. I mean we had like
Speaker 7: something like an eighty thousand waiting list, you get. I
Speaker 7: mean we're sold out. We're sold out. It was still
Speaker 7: sold out before I got there. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 7: and again. But when Joe came back to FedEx Field
Speaker 7: and FedExField got so a common dominant nomination of that
Speaker 7: is Joe Gibbs. I mean, he he knows how to
Speaker 7: get his the most out of his player. It was
Speaker 7: a different type of player when he came back the
Speaker 7: second time around, it wasn't quite the same type of player.
Speaker 7: He didn't have the same, same type of control. Like
Speaker 7: practices were like a little.
Speaker 1: Different, a lot lighter than he will know.
Speaker 7: Like and because you know, we hit, we hit every day.
Speaker 7: We even you know, we put on shorts on Friday,
Speaker 7: shorts and shoulder paths and anytime he had shoulder pads.
Speaker 4: On, we were going to hit.
Speaker 1: No we hit, you know.
Speaker 7: So now like practices now, I can kind of see
Speaker 7: why defensive players tend to miss more tackles now because
Speaker 7: they don't actually hit in practice anymore. And that's it's
Speaker 7: kind of hard if you don't practice your craft to
Speaker 7: become great at it again, you know. I mean if
Speaker 7: I was being a coach, would be a little different.
Speaker 7: I know, coach. As a coach, we can't tell you
Speaker 7: to do that. But what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: cut practice short by hour and a half, and I'm
Speaker 7: gonna have my captains on the team like fresh smooth.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, y'all got during Yeah, y'all go out during practice.
Speaker 7: Then they can do it. They won't do all their
Speaker 7: own time, So go out there and get it done.
Speaker 7: Because at the end of the day, the team to
Speaker 7: go the extra mile are the teams that win in
Speaker 7: this mark. And I'm guaranteeing the teams that we see
Speaker 7: that are winning super Bowls, they're doing something that's a
Speaker 7: little different, that's not by the rules. If you ain't cheating,
Speaker 7: you ain't trying.
Speaker 1: You ain't trying. Ain't we from the nineties, you learn
Speaker 1: a lot. A legend.
Speaker 3: That's a legend right now, it's been true.
Speaker 7: I mean, think about it, like every play, somebody's cheating
Speaker 7: what it is, somebody's holding, somebody's pushing up, just what
Speaker 7: it is, Like I mean, because he is such a
Speaker 7: good defensive back, there's gonna be a lot of times
Speaker 7: that he guesses right what I'm doing and he's right
Speaker 7: on me. So I'm gonna have to push him away
Speaker 7: to kind of get open. There's gonna be times where
Speaker 7: he doesn't figure out what I'm doing. He's have to
Speaker 7: grab my hand and hold me. But it's not gonna
Speaker 7: look like a whole. The key is mastering your craft,
Speaker 7: and a lot of people they don't master their craft anymore.
Speaker 7: They don't take the time to dig in to practice
Speaker 7: over and over and over again. So this this is
Speaker 7: a push off. You see that you do not see that,
Speaker 7: you do not see this push right, But It takes
Speaker 7: time to master that because if not, you're gonna do
Speaker 7: that in a game.
Speaker 6: See that. But see now, I had got to the point.
Speaker 5: I know you can't run without your own I used
Speaker 5: to grab, but I used to swing with him, so
Speaker 5: I'm not swinging against him.
Speaker 6: To you, it looks like nothing.
Speaker 3: But they're just running together.
Speaker 6: Yes, But now if.
Speaker 5: I grab it and don't run with him, it's gonna
Speaker 5: look like I'm holding.
Speaker 6: So it's tricks, set of trade to get things done.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's exactly what it is. And that's that's
Speaker 7: the game of football, and that's what you love about it,
Speaker 7: you know you love that.
Speaker 4: I have to.
Speaker 7: I would have to sit down and really try to
Speaker 7: analyze how he played as a defensive back. You know
Speaker 7: I did that later end of my career. I should
Speaker 7: have did it, and the very started my career. My career,
Speaker 7: early part of my crew was just so freaking cocky, ridiculous.
Speaker 7: It's not fair, it's not fair. I didn't watch film.
Speaker 7: I didn't really watch film probably until my seventh eighth
Speaker 7: year in the league.
Speaker 6: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Be fair?
Speaker 7: I mean, but for me, if I had to give
Speaker 7: myself out as you know, how you gotta give yourself
Speaker 7: an as I'd be like I got for the girl
Speaker 7: away to play with a chip on my shoulder now
Speaker 7: and said, okay, now, you don't watch any film, but
Speaker 7: you so. Now you gotta go out there and you
Speaker 7: gotta play hard. You gotta give them one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: You gotta do your thing. But there was games I
Speaker 7: should have looked at the damn. I was like, this
Speaker 7: is not a good game, you know. But I think
Speaker 7: as a player, you gotta do whatever gives yourself that
Speaker 7: edge mentally that it allows you to play better. And
Speaker 7: that for me, that's what it wasn't you know what
Speaker 7: if I don't look at him, that means I gotta
Speaker 7: bring my best come sudden, you know, in terms of
Speaker 7: but I prepare because preparation is everything everything for a
Speaker 7: player to become Like Fred don't want to be good.
Speaker 7: He wanted to be great. That's why he was a
Speaker 7: great cornerback, not just a good cornerback. If you just
Speaker 7: want to be good, you gonna be good. If you
Speaker 7: want to be great, you gotta work at it and
Speaker 7: you gotta put in the time. Like when I see people,
Speaker 7: when you see practices over and that feels nobody's on
Speaker 7: the field.
Speaker 6: They'll tell you everything you need.
Speaker 7: All right, now, I'll know if the teams could be
Speaker 7: a good or back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And we started this out by saying this whole podcast
Speaker 5: by we were talking to Drail what player loves football,
Speaker 5: that's gonna come.
Speaker 6: They coming because they love you. Pay me later, I've
Speaker 6: come to play some football. Yeah, that's the difference.
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, All Pro Gary Clark, we
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 6: She would be in the Hall of Fame. But they
Speaker 6: seem to snub my guy.
Speaker 5: They seem to snub the Washington guy, the Jacobe's of
Speaker 5: the world, the Brian Mitchell's of the world. I don't
Speaker 5: know what this internal external hate for the Washington guys
Speaker 5: coming from, but we're gonna have to make a step
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: no him without me. That just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: So we introduce to Shun Springs. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: We used to talk, We used to talk doing the
Speaker 5: game about nothing, what to do with the game.
Speaker 1: Like we one day we was in New York.
Speaker 8: I don't know why we just played. Now I'm a preface.
Speaker 8: He's gonna tell the story. We just played them like
Speaker 8: two weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Okay, we in New York. Right, we come to the huddle.
Speaker 5: Brandon Jakes just ran me over.
Speaker 1: It is Monday night game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, three hundred pounds all right, dude, we get to
Speaker 5: the huddle this man wait wait, relaxed man style.
Speaker 1: I was like, is it me?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: These dudes really giants.
Speaker 5: Because we looked at they huddled right, Shock is six
Speaker 5: five to fifty Plexico six six two forty Eli six
Speaker 5: Brandon James six A Monday too of the.
Speaker 1: Smallest person on the team six three two.
Speaker 8: Let me let me preface this. Now, this is the
Speaker 8: start of the game. We just played these guys. Now
Speaker 8: we know the conference is big, and smooth comes to me,
Speaker 8: this is the first series talking. I said, oh, he
Speaker 8: must be already playing in this trip.
Speaker 4: He tells me.
Speaker 8: They're big and somebody's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 2: I said, what.
Speaker 5: We played football, I said. I said, we always get hurt.
Speaker 5: Dude ain't over this smile and he ain't got two teeth.
Speaker 5: And then not like we are going to get hurt
Speaker 5: to days.
Speaker 8: To me, I said, I said, okay, you're gonna check
Speaker 8: out what you're doing. He said, I just gotta make
Speaker 8: some business decisions. I said, it's the last game to
Speaker 8: see is the Houston.
Speaker 4: We ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: And they toss sweeping it to me the first time.
Speaker 5: The first time, I make the tack, cringe tackle like
Speaker 5: I'm hurting. Second time, he just flat out running over.
Speaker 4: And then he ran him over and smoops like kicking
Speaker 4: his legs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna flee in there. I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm like, run if they run this thing.
Speaker 5: The third time you need to get down here. You
Speaker 5: need to get down here. Now we ran covered to
Speaker 5: they tossed it just like I thought. I look back
Speaker 5: at the run. I look at Brandon business you said
Speaker 5: some time so plus the code kind of grabs. He
Speaker 5: ran himself, you know, ple plus co Helmel block.
Speaker 4: He ran himself out of the plate.
Speaker 5: I'm wrestling with plexa coach slow motion. I turn and
Speaker 5: I look and I see a collision the run and
Speaker 5: Brandon Jacobs and Brandon Jacob just crushes him, and I
Speaker 5: think it changed Laburn life. So go to him to
Speaker 5: get him off the ground. He has just looking his eyes.
Speaker 5: He comes in there, he just had to look at that.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 8: Now, now, I'm gonna tell a story. Comes to me
Speaker 8: and he's got his head down on side.
Speaker 4: I said, what's up, dude? He said, I told.
Speaker 5: You somebody I've been telling y'all.
Speaker 8: Nobody want to listen to me, he said. I said,
Speaker 8: he said, let me tell you something. I said, what's
Speaker 8: wrong with Lebron?
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 8: I said, I've never been the same again. He said,
Speaker 8: I told you so. I'm like, okay, he said. He said,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you about it in the film room.
Speaker 8: But it got bad. Listen, and Lebron happened. I said,
Speaker 8: what happened? He said, it got bad?
Speaker 1: And Lebrun changed after this, I mean he turned out
Speaker 1: the guy killed. He turned into a bodybuild after this.
Speaker 3: I remember when he went nuts on just trying to
Speaker 3: get ripped Withever.
Speaker 5: Yes, Brandon Jacobs brand Brandon Jacob's situation.
Speaker 1: We know the same, La run and I felt like
Speaker 1: it was my fault.
Speaker 4: It was the because you put the powder of a
Speaker 4: dead body around, Yes.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 1: It was the chalk line.
Speaker 5: It was a man there when I looked at him,
Speaker 5: get up, man, you know.
Speaker 6: It up.
Speaker 1: It can't be that man.
Speaker 2: Uh like.
Speaker 5: It was one of the worst Collidgeons I ever seen
Speaker 5: in my life and changed my boy. And now to
Speaker 5: the day he won big Nick muscle somewhere, we still
Speaker 5: swollen for no reason. You remember we went out one night.
Speaker 5: He came to my house, so we went out.
Speaker 1: We go and get them.
Speaker 8: I wasn't going to he had a monkey. I told
Speaker 8: you about the monkey had.
Speaker 5: Time, yes, sir, but listen, he would literally, we're finna
Speaker 5: go out. He came to my house. I like, I
Speaker 5: opened the door for the run. He went right downstairs
Speaker 5: like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 5: He went right to my weight room that never got used.
Speaker 5: He's down there lifting weights before we go to the club.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 5: I like what you're doing now. He like, I gotta
Speaker 5: be a she was walking in here and that was Now.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my official apology, Ron Landry. I am
Speaker 5: sorry that I did not squeeze that gap, that I
Speaker 5: did not sacrifice myself. But the football guy said they
Speaker 5: needed a sacrifice at that time, and I read it.
Speaker 1: You didn't me. You know it happens.
Speaker 8: Man, oh man, you're the worst teammate that indeed.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you another story of jinks. We're playing
Speaker 5: against the Rams in preseason.
Speaker 8: Tory Hoape, that's preferences before smoot the size that he's
Speaker 8: gonna bother Elsie All. He's gonna get in a fight
Speaker 8: before the game. Like we got in an argument on
Speaker 8: the bus in the locker room. In the locker room
Speaker 8: and he told him he was gonna beat him up.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 5: I didn't get along with CP all, la Vernie's all
Speaker 5: these guys because they just like they.
Speaker 1: Played too much.
Speaker 4: We out here working players.
Speaker 5: See this is out here dominating and you dudes ain't
Speaker 5: doing nothing.
Speaker 4: Call him a clowns, show clowns.
Speaker 1: At the end of.
Speaker 5: The day, y'all putting up ten points of damn game,
Speaker 5: were giving up, died, we can't win, and then you're
Speaker 5: laughing every day bringing.
Speaker 1: McDonald's in the damn building like so.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, check he told him
Speaker 4: they were clowns. It wasn't serious about football.
Speaker 5: And guess what we got rid of Lavernie sit next here,
Speaker 5: and everything else worked itself out.
Speaker 1: So now we in the game.
Speaker 5: Right to catch an outright on you supposed to be
Speaker 5: supposed to be supposed to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 8: Damn hard to check. I get up at the tackling here.
Speaker 8: We're playing man, no great player. Week two we're playing
Speaker 8: all man. He doesn't play anything else, straight man against
Speaker 8: the get. He catched the ball on our sideline. I
Speaker 8: get up, look up, said he laughing. Lavernie is laughing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what, when I get back to
Speaker 5: the sideline, I'm gonna kick your hands and your ass.
Speaker 3: So you young at them while on the Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: Yes, he's gonna fight this guys, he said, When I
Speaker 8: get to the sideline, y'all know what it is like man,
Speaker 8: he likes, Man, relax, He's like, you want me to
Speaker 8: jump on the I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: So I'm upset.
Speaker 5: I'm emotionally there doing the game and I'm like this dude,
Speaker 5: he don't make it any better.
Speaker 1: Like this is what he does. He's attacking this and
Speaker 1: that's what he does.
Speaker 4: Oh man, this is funny. Man. I got some stories.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: The New England Patriot game was that's a funny one.
Speaker 1: But listen, I was hurt, so I'm not dressed and
Speaker 1: this is the.
Speaker 4: Let me tell the story. Let me tell the story.
Speaker 8: That week we are gonna play the Patriots, who are undefeated.
Speaker 8: They got Randy Moss, they are scoring, they didn't broke
Speaker 8: the record halfway during the most prolific offense halfway during
Speaker 8: the season. Now we're the number one pass defense. Carlos, myself, Smooth,
Speaker 8: Sean Taylor were Sean was nothing the game and Lawn
Speaker 8: Smooth during the week pulls his hamstring right because Jerry
Speaker 8: got us running, go smooth pulling. So we go up
Speaker 8: there still confident. We're down a little bit, but we
Speaker 8: know our defense is our defense. We go out there
Speaker 8: and we get fifty put on us.
Speaker 4: So bad.
Speaker 1: Hear them. It was so bad.
Speaker 8: Yeah, what's the coach of Minnesota? He was the third
Speaker 8: string quarterback. He covered a kick and didn put his
Speaker 8: quarterback helmet on. Kevin the quarterback for minute of the
Speaker 8: head coach for Minnesota? What's the head coach for Mine?
Speaker 1: O'Connor?
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, what's thirsteam quarterback? He literally covered a kick.
Speaker 8: At quarterback and then came and put a quarterback helmet
Speaker 8: and then scored two testdowns on us.
Speaker 4: That's that's the true story.
Speaker 8: We got whooped, and we go in the locker room
Speaker 8: and coach Gibb goes, hey, man, it happens.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 8: Years later I found out that coach Gibbs pretty much
Speaker 8: got I think coach Belichick fired when he was at
Speaker 8: Cleveland and the Redskins went up there and they just
Speaker 8: smacked him, and Bill got fired.
Speaker 4: He didn't want to get him back, so they wanted
Speaker 4: to get him back.
Speaker 8: So it was one of those things where we went
Speaker 8: in there and we just got a hammer. Coach Gibbs,
Speaker 8: we get on the plane, I'm like, I'm down, I'm down.
Speaker 8: Smooth goes tell me, he said, you know, would been
Speaker 8: different if I played.
Speaker 5: You know how we were missing with me right, I
Speaker 5: sat by fifty.
Speaker 4: But if it had been different if I played played
Speaker 4: with the.
Speaker 1: War Hey Collos tears his knee up.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's third playing.
Speaker 1: You need to be killful. They all burning people help
Speaker 1: in right, you need to be careful.
Speaker 8: I'm on Randy Moss like I think I know. I'm
Speaker 8: checking masks the oldest over there getting touch like, I'm
Speaker 8: on the sideline and I'm like, you know what, try
Speaker 8: to coach you up?
Speaker 1: They run a do we know that?
Speaker 5: But I'm always coaching from the sideline A go because
Speaker 5: I'm a team player. Like if I can't play, at
Speaker 5: least I can share some knowledge. Now I just seen
Speaker 5: Tom do this to Randy.
Speaker 1: Watch out. I'm looking like you need to watch out?
Speaker 5: And then what I that what I love about the
Speaker 5: game though people don't really get. It's a game inside
Speaker 5: the game that only players get to share. And I
Speaker 5: think that's the that's the memories we take. We don't
Speaker 5: think about what happened in the game. We'll think about
Speaker 5: those times and we share those times, and I think
Speaker 5: they would make us close Like that thing. I want
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Speaker 3: Here on the show, Great guests Gary Clark Popp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some great gifts. Shun spree Sean came yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're gonna keep it going now and bring
Speaker 2: in Rentley Weisman. Follow him on Twitter at Rentley twelve.
Speaker 2: He's a former NFL draft scout, yeah, draft analyst, and
Speaker 2: he had this really great thread not too long ago
Speaker 2: where he compared NFL quarterbacks draft quarterbacks yeah to characters
Speaker 2: from Game of Thrones, and you, more than anyone I know,
Speaker 2: is a huge Game of Thrones guy.
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoy it, enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I was mad at you, though, because I wanted you
Speaker 5: to do old lineman. I want the hound to come
Speaker 5: in there. I want you to do some defense, lab,
Speaker 5: I want you to like Once I seen him do that,
Speaker 5: it started my it started my wheels.
Speaker 1: To turn, and I was like, well, yeah, I can
Speaker 1: compare some of these guys also.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna throw out a few of these. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Fred, I'm gonna let you guys. I'm gonna enjoy it,
Speaker 2: like everyone.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's go to Western ROAs on him right quick.
Speaker 6: I'm probably gonna get something.
Speaker 3: Caleb williams Oberon Martel.
Speaker 5: I was shocked that you pick ober In with Kate,
Speaker 5: because when I see Caleb, all I can think of
Speaker 5: is the Prince who was promised.
Speaker 1: All I can think of is John Snow.
Speaker 5: You know, it's been so much said about Caleb Williams,
Speaker 5: and I'm talking about two, three, four years.
Speaker 1: He just hung around this So I was like.
Speaker 5: You know what, to me, Caleb Posita the star of
Speaker 5: this show. He's the prince who was promised. He's Robert Barratian,
Speaker 5: meaning he has been up there so long that he's
Speaker 5: got the fat red disease that he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't rule like he used to rule. What do you
Speaker 1: think about those two comparisons.
Speaker 9: I do like the John Snow comparison, just just for
Speaker 9: the prince I was promised. I think that is a
Speaker 9: great obviously saying that could be attached to Caleb Williams.
Speaker 9: The thing with John Snow is though, like he is
Speaker 9: much more of the stoic, much more of the play
Speaker 9: with instructure, certainly not a risk taker. By he means
Speaker 9: he's he's not that guy were Caleb Williams. You know,
Speaker 9: his main kind of you know, you want to call
Speaker 9: it a down you know, negative trade or you know
Speaker 9: we're scouting him mean Some of his concerns is he
Speaker 9: plays too much out of structure, he invites chaos, doesn't
Speaker 9: like to take the small wins, loves to go for
Speaker 9: the kind of hero shot, the kill ball, and that
Speaker 9: leads me to ober and Martella. I mean, look, he
Speaker 9: is one of, if not the greatest fighter in Western
Speaker 9: I's history, a master and a bunch of a bunch
Speaker 9: of different kind of poisons and things like that, very
Speaker 9: similar to Caleb william Is. Where Caleb can you know,
Speaker 9: throw from different armis armed angles, he can throw off platform.
Speaker 9: Oberin can kill off platform. He can kill from a
Speaker 9: different lot of different angles. And to me, the issues
Speaker 9: that both would have or they're very much over not excessive,
Speaker 9: but they try to do too much right, They can't
Speaker 9: just take the he win, lived to fight the next down.
Speaker 9: We saw with Caleb Williams this year at USC refuse
Speaker 9: to take the shutdown, refuse to throw the ball, the
Speaker 9: ball away that would cause interceptions that called turnovers. Ober
Speaker 9: and Martel refuse to just take the easy win against
Speaker 9: the mountain, got to cocky, started talking and gave up
Speaker 9: the wing. So I like the John Snow comparison, but
Speaker 9: I got to stick at my ober Marteau one, Oh.
Speaker 1: I like that one. I like that he kind of
Speaker 1: he kind of sliced and dice me right there. But
Speaker 1: the Prince's problems, I thought it was just so perfect
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 3: Do both of these guys paint their nails?
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, no, you know what Obra
Speaker 1: and Martel. He is the guy I do that. I
Speaker 1: know he is the guy to do that.
Speaker 5: And he's flashy. He's right about there. He's flashy. He's
Speaker 5: gonna be edgy when he do stuff. And also he
Speaker 5: had the mountain right where he wanted him and he
Speaker 5: just had to just just splurge a little bit too
Speaker 5: long cost him his life.
Speaker 3: Let's go with another one here, Drake May Rob Stark.
Speaker 5: Now, when you said Drake May is Rob Stark, I
Speaker 5: tried to think. I looked around and I said, you
Speaker 5: know what, so litt Jamie Lanister in there, the best
Speaker 5: saw it in Western roast over there.
Speaker 1: But then when you when you said Rob Stark, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: the young wolf.
Speaker 5: And I looked at the quarterbacks, and he is the
Speaker 5: youngest out the bunch. One of the best leaders.
Speaker 1: Can't be overzealous at some time.
Speaker 5: So I actually agreed it was one of the few
Speaker 5: I agreed with you with Rob Stark.
Speaker 1: Tell me why you chose Rob at this one?
Speaker 9: Yeah, So you know, Rob starts and Drake May, I
Speaker 9: think makes a lot of sense. As you mentioned, Uh,
Speaker 9: you know, Rob Stark's nicknaming the show is the Young
Speaker 9: Wolf and Drake May is the youngest of these quarterback prospects,
Speaker 9: and really both had a lot of success early on
Speaker 9: in their careers. Think about Drake May, he first popped
Speaker 9: under the scene as true freshman. I mean he was phenomenal,
Speaker 9: and then he followed up the freshman year with a great,
Speaker 9: great sophomore year. And and look at Rob Stark, I
Speaker 9: mean he won his first four battles, got three battles
Speaker 9: in the Battles of the Five Kings, one obviously at
Speaker 9: the Whispering Would where he was able to kind of
Speaker 9: capture Jamie l Anister. So I mean, I see a
Speaker 9: lot of similarities with the early success. But with that
Speaker 9: early success led to kind of their later struggles. Right
Speaker 9: where Drake May, I think he had such early success,
Speaker 9: he was really over confident in his ability to make
Speaker 9: some throws. I think Drake may Is issue is he
Speaker 9: has a rocket arm, He's very accurate down the field,
Speaker 9: he knows where to go to football, but there are
Speaker 9: times where he takes these risks. He makes these decisions
Speaker 9: that our dress will watch.
Speaker 6: You make that throw.
Speaker 9: You know you're throwing into double coverage.
Speaker 6: I know you can get it.
Speaker 9: There, but there's higher percentage throws available. You didn't have
Speaker 9: to take that risk. Same with Rob Stark. I mean
Speaker 9: he did not have to cross the you know, cross
Speaker 9: the bridge to the to the Twins to try to
Speaker 9: go through Walter Frey after he already betrayed him, like
Speaker 9: he didn't have to execute his his bannerman more cars
Speaker 9: start was. There's unnecessary risks that both of them take
Speaker 9: later in their career that I think stemmed from their
Speaker 9: early success, and so I think that makes a lot
Speaker 9: of sense. They both have high upside. I love me
Speaker 9: about to start. He was a character before his untimely end.
Speaker 9: But I think this one makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: I see a lot of Denari's first husband, Joe Goo
Speaker 5: in him too, because he started off, like you said,
Speaker 5: started off so fast, but then framed out before he
Speaker 5: even could get started.
Speaker 3: All these cameras are coming.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that going to be like I might get
Speaker 1: this name wrong, Jane Daniels, and are you start? Are
Speaker 1: your stock? You hit it right on the head right there.
Speaker 5: Now, this is one that I really really gotta get
Speaker 5: you on right here, because why do you are you for?
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels?
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, for me, it's the career growth, right.
Speaker 9: You think about where Aria started. She was, I think
Speaker 9: the know, the thirty youngest of the Stark children, the
Speaker 9: youngest little girl of the Stark children. And she really
Speaker 9: kind of went after Ned was executed. She had to
Speaker 9: go into hiding with the up to the wall with
Speaker 9: God blaking on his knee. But you know, up up
Speaker 9: up to the wall, right with the hound and the
Speaker 9: guy from the Gosh the Knight's Watch, and her journey,
Speaker 9: I mean she's in rags to rickets, right, she is
Speaker 9: literally sleeping on the road on the King's Road is
Speaker 9: at the lowest point, and you know, you just see
Speaker 9: her evolution from okay, yeah, she's on the King's Round
Speaker 9: as a traveler, and then she goes to Bravos and
Speaker 9: learns the ways of the many faced Men, and then
Speaker 9: she comes back to West ROAs and kind of seeks
Speaker 9: yourvenge for the starts and you just kind of see
Speaker 9: her grow step steps season by season, which ultimately leads
Speaker 9: her to kind of be the hero of the show
Speaker 9: in The Long Night, where she kind of is able
Speaker 9: to make the finishing kill against the Night King and Cyber.
Speaker 9: Spoilers for those who haven't watched the game with the rounds,
Speaker 9: but at that point you probably should have by now,
Speaker 9: so I don't feel too bad. I think Jayden Daniels, right,
Speaker 9: Jayden Daniels, I mean think I'm a Pac twelve guy.
Speaker 9: You see the Oregon stuff. I've watched Jayden Daniels since
Speaker 9: his true freshman year at Arizona State. I think this
Speaker 9: is back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, so I mean
Speaker 9: he played Herbert. I mean, so he's been around the block.
Speaker 9: You see him steadily improved year after year after year
Speaker 9: after year, which obviously culminates to this past year, which
Speaker 9: legend in the Heiden Trophy led him to go from
Speaker 9: a mid round quarterback who has some athleticism, has some
Speaker 9: upside to now a surefire top five prospect, a guy
Speaker 9: who is arguably the second best quarterback in this class.
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of similarities in the growth
Speaker 9: of the two. You know, of Aria and Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 9: and then it's fun. Obviously, I can kind of view
Speaker 9: the dual threat thing. Aria obviously really good with the
Speaker 9: sword but also has a dual threat with the ability to.
Speaker 6: Change faces and a kind of stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, and Jane and Daniels obviously with his legs
Speaker 9: in his arm. And then lastly the slender frames. I
Speaker 9: think it's an easy kind of throwing. Dad and Daniels scrownie,
Speaker 9: very slight, Aria obviously very slight, very scrownie. Both have to,
Speaker 9: you know, take better care in terms of not taking
Speaker 9: big hits, not taking shots to make sure they last
Speaker 9: in their careers. And so I really like this one.
Speaker 1: I liked them.
Speaker 9: Surprised he didn't like it.
Speaker 1: No, I did, Like you, I like to throw a
Speaker 1: card ball in there.
Speaker 5: Speaking of the many face men, jack and hood gud
Speaker 5: who that's who I when I looked at it, I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: What, because he got many faces.
Speaker 5: Jane Daniels, like you said, he started all kind of
Speaker 5: slow in Arizona State. Indeed, he busted on the scene
Speaker 5: and unless you and he became the kingslive. So at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, when I say Jackie hjoh.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, which face am I getting from jayde Daniels?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Is he a little bit of RG three? Is he
Speaker 1: more CJ? Scrubb is like when you see him who like?
Speaker 1: Sometimes he confuses me? And that's why I chose JACKI
Speaker 1: and Hujah because I like, that's a dude that got
Speaker 1: many faces. He could be who he needs to be.
Speaker 1: You brought that up.
Speaker 5: He could be who he needs to be any game.
Speaker 5: If he needs to rest for one hundred yards, he
Speaker 5: a rest for one hundred. Yet if you need to
Speaker 5: throw for four hundred, he could throw.
Speaker 1: For four hundred. So I thought you would go with
Speaker 1: him because he can adjest to any situation.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 9: I really like that angle.
Speaker 6: Love that angle.
Speaker 2: Actually he's Brientley Weisman, former NFL scout and draft and
Speaker 2: let's follow him on Twitter at Brentley twelve. Obviously he
Speaker 2: knows his Game of Thrones as well, and we appreciate
Speaker 2: the time Brientley, thank you so much. Thanks for being
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