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Speaker 1: How do you doing, guys?

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Speaker 2: It is to get my podcasts. Anybody seat geek and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take a look back now at the best

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Speaker 2: of the best from the last year.

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Speaker 3: Man, We've had a ton of good times.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: We found Bubba Jackson's he's resting in the home in Florida.

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Speaker 5: Most definitely he like art, he liked music. Plus Michael

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Speaker 5: left him millions of dollars with about Gary Clark. Gary

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Speaker 5: was so good on this podcast and Bluefoot he's always

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Speaker 5: a great guy that stops by. We got a lot

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Speaker 5: of stuff we talk about on this podcast, and that's

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Speaker 5: all coming.

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Speaker 3: Up next to right now. Do you want to preview

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Speaker 3: the falcons to talk about Bubbles?

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Speaker 1: First, let's talk about Bubbles.

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Speaker 3: I know you're gonna say that, So here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Michael Jackson, remember Bubbles, his chimp, his baby chimp.

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Speaker 5: You know, Bubbas Jackson. Bubbus Jackson was the first emotional animal.

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Speaker 5: He started to jumper, you know, because I'd be walking

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Speaker 5: in I'll be walking in the Groce store and somebody

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Speaker 5: be like, yeah, like this parrot on my shoulder because

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Speaker 5: I need him for emotional well being.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, my god. Where they used to be Bubbles.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Bubbles started it, mister Bubbles Jackson and.

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Speaker 1: Meubus Jackson, that's his name. Then guess what we did.

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Speaker 1: We gooed to see where he was today. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you believe he's alive.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Not only is he alive, he got a gray beard.

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Speaker 5: He looked like he foded like a whole family. He's huge, Yes, listen,

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Speaker 5: like he been on the couch watching it marble like

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Speaker 5: a least the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Bubbles was born in nineteen eighty three. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: keep up with the life expectancy of chimps.

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Speaker 5: But it's twenty twenty three and Bubbles is still kicking it.

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Speaker 1: I wish he could tell us stories.

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Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy tells a story. He went to visit Neverland. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he walks in and all of a sudden he

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Speaker 2: looks and Bubbles is huge in the cage.

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Speaker 3: And Michael Jackson says, stay away from Bubbles. He's huge

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Speaker 3: in me.

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Speaker 2: Now that's Bubbles, stay away.

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of way and prescious, by the way, Bubbles,

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Speaker 1: could you go get us? With Bubble sitting here with

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Speaker 1: Eddie listen to me, I could only wonder the stories

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Speaker 1: that this man got.

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Speaker 5: But I also listen Bubbles to me, bubus, Okay, what

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Speaker 5: other we have?

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Speaker 1: Nobody to compare him to. It's a chimp.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, father star power. Could he be

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Speaker 5: the most popular animal on earth?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Can we think of another one?

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Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen eighty three and we are

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Speaker 2: looking him up today in.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three. Why should we even know the year

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Speaker 1: he was born. I got cousins. I don't know the

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Speaker 1: year they was born. Like, listen to me. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about a chimp that's been to the Grammys.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about a chimp that been to Singapore. You're

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Speaker 5: talking about the chimp passport.

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Speaker 1: Got more stamps than ours.

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Speaker 5: Were talked about, a chimp that probably no silent, that's

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Speaker 5: probably only eight breakfast.

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Speaker 3: What's that, Bubbles? Bubbles is hungry?

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Speaker 1: Do you need any no pat.

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Speaker 3: He just signed it.

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Speaker 5: He's lived such a life, like all right, I know

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Speaker 5: people think we joke it, I am dead serious.

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Speaker 2: What were you saying earlier about how the other chimps

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Speaker 2: probably like don't like Bubbles because he's not one of them.

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Speaker 1: Because you said he's at a zoos some.

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Speaker 3: Sort of conservatory or something.

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Speaker 1: Like the bat you're walking in is you Bubba Jackson?

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Speaker 5: And you a regular chimp back there, like, we're not

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Speaker 5: dealing with this dude, sail out. This dude don't know

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Speaker 5: what it feels like the climb a tree and get

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Speaker 5: a banana. This dude don't know how it is to survive.

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Speaker 5: I've been picking fleas.

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Speaker 1: I will it back. But in the last ten years

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Speaker 1: and here come Bubble here with a pair of polo shorts.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? They hate Bubbles?

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Speaker 3: Like you know his real name is in Bubbles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, real name Augustine. He's Sailout. You know

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Speaker 1: how I be. I have went home after you, Like

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Speaker 1: if you get a certain standard.

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Speaker 5: I go home then like yeah, man, you don't even

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Speaker 5: say I'm just saying you a sellout. So I know

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Speaker 5: Bubba had to go through this when they him back

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Speaker 5: in population, they put him back in Jim Pop. It

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Speaker 5: is the first thing I want to know.

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Speaker 3: They gotta put Bubbles in solitary man, protect him.

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Speaker 5: Because you know they have to, right, That's the thing

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Speaker 5: about it. And imagine being a chimp. He comes in

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Speaker 5: the room and your girl there, she know who Bubbles is.

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Speaker 5: He's the only one being on TV. Besides, I used

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Speaker 5: to watch Dukes had cannon Ball Run. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 5: remember that there was a wrangle tang.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, it's a difference.

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Speaker 1: It was a ranger tang, and that he wasn't popular

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Speaker 1: like Bubbles.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, they need to do a documentary and

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Speaker 2: let Bubbles talk about what he said.

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Speaker 3: He'd smoking a cigarette.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, life being kind of hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike was cool at first, but I got tired

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Speaker 2: of hanging around his neck all the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I went on the Thriller or two and

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Speaker 5: things got kind of crazy out there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I too owned the monkey.

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Speaker 1: This is true, This is very true. Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: Happened because I had a friend named la Ron Landry.

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Speaker 3: This goes back to Lauran again, yes, again. And he

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Speaker 3: looked aways with that he lived.

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Speaker 5: His monkey was totally thicker than my look like me

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Speaker 5: and walking in we had left in years.

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Speaker 1: His monkey just looking at mine. See here go think

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 5: He called me, said, I know exotic Anima sell it

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Speaker 5: in Louise Allaka. He was like, I'm gonna get a monkey.

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Speaker 5: I was like, okay, what kind of monkey? He was

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Speaker 5: like Jack sparrow, put on your shoulder type.

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Speaker 1: Mon ye get too big. So I'm like, okay, I

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 5: I have an own number of dolls in my life.

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Speaker 5: Why not try something different. We buy the monkeys, get

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Speaker 5: them shipped up. I named mine mister Lewis, mister Lewis Baton.

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Speaker 5: That's his name, Lewis Baton, mister Lewis, not just Lewis.

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Speaker 5: He had a certain mister, mister mister now Laurn named

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Speaker 5: his the Gucci name there was. So we got Louis

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Speaker 5: and we got Gucci. We used to let him play.

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Speaker 5: We used to have play days and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Wait, man, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 2: You and Laron Landry used to have playdates with the

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Speaker 2: two chimps.

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Speaker 1: That you bought. Don't people do it with dogs? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 3: So this is a crazy story.

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Speaker 5: It ain't like I knew my neighbor didn't have a

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Speaker 5: monkey that Lewis could play with. I had to call

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Speaker 5: the on the other person with a monkey that I knew, Like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you mockey look kind of bored. You want to get

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Speaker 5: them together, Let them play a little PlayStation or something

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Speaker 5: like listen. I just want them to have fun, to

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Speaker 5: have a life. So We used to get them, and

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Speaker 5: we put out these cages in our house. Okay, you

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Speaker 5: get a wall, you go like six feet away from

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Speaker 5: the wall, and you put just.

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Speaker 1: A cage in it. You put the sticky stuff in Thereah.

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Speaker 5: So I just put mine in there naturally. But then

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Speaker 5: I noticed droppings. Finker matter. It was dropping hitting the floor.

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Speaker 5: So I called him, what we're gonna do about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, man, you gotta put a dipe

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Speaker 1: on them.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: Imagine twenty three year old friend smooth walking into PetSmart

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Speaker 5: looking for monkey diapers.

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Speaker 3: This is different, sir, You're looking for a monkey diapers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: those would be special er thing.

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Speaker 5: So I going around all these places. Nobody got diapers.

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Speaker 5: So for the first.

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Speaker 1: Two days that I did.

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Speaker 5: So the first two days I used Huggies, I used

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Speaker 5: regular Yeah, and I would cut like a hole in

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Speaker 5: the back of for the tail because.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this is crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I had to because if you don't okay, it grabs

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Speaker 5: it and it throwing at you. You imagine me opening

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Speaker 5: my door and here come mister Lewis.

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Speaker 1: Just I like, did you eat corn? I don't know

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Speaker 1: what happened, but like, what's going on, and I should

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Speaker 1: not have to defend myself from a monkey in my house.

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Speaker 1: So when I finally got.

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Speaker 5: Him, I used to, I got the pampers and stuff

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Speaker 5: would put him on, but he would just not. He

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Speaker 5: would mister Lewis was not letting me put the pamples

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Speaker 5: on in the right, so he always had one with

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Speaker 5: a tear in it on the side.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: When you were cutting a hole in a pamper's diaper

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Speaker 2: for a monkey tail, did you think maybe made a

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Speaker 2: mistake here?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I thought I had made a mistake because I

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Speaker 5: love bananas myself. But now I ain't got nothing in

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Speaker 5: the house because he and then see, I let him

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Speaker 5: run around a little bit, especially like he was the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: I let him let him run. He gonna go.

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Speaker 5: Straight to the kitchen table, straight to the fruit bowl,

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Speaker 5: straight to the bananas. Genetically can take them to him.

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Speaker 5: They want them, all right. So I kept him for

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Speaker 5: about four weeks, five weeks.

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Speaker 1: Before I had to ship him back. I found out.

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Speaker 5: Then I'm not Michael Jackson. I cannot raise this thing along.

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Speaker 1: This is this is this, this.

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Speaker 5: Needs two parents. This should be a two parent home.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't give it to him at that time.

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Speaker 5: So at the end of the day I sent them back.

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Speaker 5: While le Rud kept here for like a year and

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Speaker 5: a half year or two, he was actually got pretty big.

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Speaker 5: I could get bigger than you think. And they're smarter

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Speaker 5: than you think. I found myself late night watching film

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Speaker 5: up the Dallas Cowboys talking to a monkey.

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Speaker 1: I'm literally watching feel Did you see that?

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Speaker 6: Did you just see what?

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Speaker 1: Did he over that thumb? Listen? It was downhill for me.

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Speaker 6: See I even had yields, I had the.

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Speaker 1: Same head coaches here, and we still couldn't win nothing.

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Speaker 5: But we hear right now with the Super Bowl, Champ

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Speaker 7: Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You know what was funny is that you sat down

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Speaker 6: Immediately.

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Speaker 4: Me and Gary, y'all got your competitive like.

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Speaker 5: Down here was here, Yeah, and we said what would

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Speaker 7: It wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 6: Why do you think that matchup?

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Speaker 2: Go?

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Speaker 7: We's well, multiple super bowls with different quarterbacks. It's all good, man.

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Speaker 7: Ye, I mean y'all would have got us prepared for

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Speaker 1: Yes, we ain't going to the Super Bowl with y'all.

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Speaker 4: Y'all got us.

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Speaker 7: But no, seriously, though, I mean you guys man and

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Speaker 4: And no, you guys are.

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Speaker 7: Excellent, excellent cornerbacks. I mean one hundred percent. You guys

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Speaker 6: As you should.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's different. But you try to double with

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Speaker 5: One of your teams got voted the most complete team.

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Speaker 1: Of all time.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, the loss might have been looking could have been

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Speaker 7: And that's what I loved about Joe. He allowed you know,

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Speaker 7: crowd is loud, and when our offense has a team silent. Yeah,

442
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Speaker 7: to get stuff into it. I mean it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: And I mean the fans. I mean we had like

444
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Speaker 7: something like an eighty thousand waiting list, you get. I

445
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Speaker 7: mean we're sold out. We're sold out. It was still

446
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Speaker 7: sold out before I got there. Yeah, you know, and

447
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Speaker 7: and again. But when Joe came back to FedEx Field

448
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Speaker 7: and FedExField got so a common dominant nomination of that

449
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Speaker 7: is Joe Gibbs. I mean, he he knows how to

450
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Speaker 7: get his the most out of his player. It was

451
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Speaker 7: a different type of player when he came back the

452
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Speaker 7: second time around, it wasn't quite the same type of player.

453
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Speaker 7: He didn't have the same, same type of control. Like

454
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Speaker 7: practices were like a little.

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Speaker 1: Different, a lot lighter than he will know.

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Speaker 7: Like and because you know, we hit, we hit every day.

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Speaker 7: We even you know, we put on shorts on Friday,

458
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Speaker 7: shorts and shoulder paths and anytime he had shoulder pads.

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Speaker 4: On, we were going to hit.

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Speaker 1: No we hit, you know.

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Speaker 7: So now like practices now, I can kind of see

462
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Speaker 7: why defensive players tend to miss more tackles now because

463
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Speaker 7: they don't actually hit in practice anymore. And that's it's

464
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Speaker 7: kind of hard if you don't practice your craft to

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Speaker 7: become great at it again, you know. I mean if

466
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Speaker 7: I was being a coach, would be a little different.

467
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Speaker 7: I know, coach. As a coach, we can't tell you

468
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Speaker 7: to do that. But what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna

469
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Speaker 7: cut practice short by hour and a half, and I'm

470
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Speaker 7: gonna have my captains on the team like fresh smooth.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, y'all got during Yeah, y'all go out during practice.

472
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Speaker 7: Then they can do it. They won't do all their

473
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Speaker 7: own time, So go out there and get it done.

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Speaker 7: Because at the end of the day, the team to

475
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Speaker 7: go the extra mile are the teams that win in

476
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Speaker 7: this mark. And I'm guaranteeing the teams that we see

477
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Speaker 7: that are winning super Bowls, they're doing something that's a

478
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Speaker 7: little different, that's not by the rules. If you ain't cheating,

479
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Speaker 7: you ain't trying.

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Speaker 1: You ain't trying. Ain't we from the nineties, you learn

481
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Speaker 1: a lot. A legend.

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Speaker 3: That's a legend right now, it's been true.

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Speaker 7: I mean, think about it, like every play, somebody's cheating

484
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Speaker 7: what it is, somebody's holding, somebody's pushing up, just what

485
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Speaker 7: it is, Like I mean, because he is such a

486
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Speaker 7: good defensive back, there's gonna be a lot of times

487
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Speaker 7: that he guesses right what I'm doing and he's right

488
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Speaker 7: on me. So I'm gonna have to push him away

489
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Speaker 7: to kind of get open. There's gonna be times where

490
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Speaker 7: he doesn't figure out what I'm doing. He's have to

491
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Speaker 7: grab my hand and hold me. But it's not gonna

492
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Speaker 7: look like a whole. The key is mastering your craft,

493
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Speaker 7: and a lot of people they don't master their craft anymore.

494
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Speaker 7: They don't take the time to dig in to practice

495
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Speaker 7: over and over and over again. So this this is

496
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Speaker 7: a push off. You see that you do not see that,

497
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Speaker 7: you do not see this push right, But It takes

498
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Speaker 7: time to master that because if not, you're gonna do

499
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Speaker 7: that in a game.

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Speaker 6: See that. But see now, I had got to the point.

501
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Speaker 5: I know you can't run without your own I used

502
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Speaker 5: to grab, but I used to swing with him, so

503
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Speaker 5: I'm not swinging against him.

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Speaker 6: To you, it looks like nothing.

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Speaker 3: But they're just running together.

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Speaker 6: Yes, But now if.

507
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Speaker 5: I grab it and don't run with him, it's gonna

508
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Speaker 5: look like I'm holding.

509
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Speaker 6: So it's tricks, set of trade to get things done.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's exactly what it is. And that's that's

511
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Speaker 7: the game of football, and that's what you love about it,

512
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Speaker 7: you know you love that.

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Speaker 4: I have to.

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Speaker 7: I would have to sit down and really try to

515
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Speaker 7: analyze how he played as a defensive back. You know

516
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Speaker 7: I did that later end of my career. I should

517
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Speaker 7: have did it, and the very started my career. My career,

518
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Speaker 7: early part of my crew was just so freaking cocky, ridiculous.

519
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Speaker 7: It's not fair, it's not fair. I didn't watch film.

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Speaker 7: I didn't really watch film probably until my seventh eighth

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Speaker 7: year in the league.

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

523
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Speaker 4: Be fair?

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Speaker 7: I mean, but for me, if I had to give

525
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Speaker 7: myself out as you know, how you gotta give yourself

526
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Speaker 7: an as I'd be like I got for the girl

527
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Speaker 7: away to play with a chip on my shoulder now

528
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Speaker 7: and said, okay, now, you don't watch any film, but

529
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Speaker 7: you so. Now you gotta go out there and you

530
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Speaker 7: gotta play hard. You gotta give them one hundred percent.

531
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Speaker 7: You gotta do your thing. But there was games I

532
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Speaker 7: should have looked at the damn. I was like, this

533
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Speaker 7: is not a good game, you know. But I think

534
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Speaker 7: as a player, you gotta do whatever gives yourself that

535
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Speaker 7: edge mentally that it allows you to play better. And

536
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Speaker 7: that for me, that's what it wasn't you know what

537
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Speaker 7: if I don't look at him, that means I gotta

538
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Speaker 7: bring my best come sudden, you know, in terms of

539
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Speaker 7: but I prepare because preparation is everything everything for a

540
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Speaker 7: player to become Like Fred don't want to be good.

541
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Speaker 7: He wanted to be great. That's why he was a

542
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Speaker 7: great cornerback, not just a good cornerback. If you just

543
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Speaker 7: want to be good, you gonna be good. If you

544
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 7: want to be great, you gotta work at it and

545
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Speaker 7: you gotta put in the time. Like when I see people,

546
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Speaker 7: when you see practices over and that feels nobody's on

547
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Speaker 7: the field.

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Speaker 6: They'll tell you everything you need.

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Speaker 7: All right, now, I'll know if the teams could be

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Speaker 7: a good or back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And we started this out by saying this whole podcast

554
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Speaker 5: by we were talking to Drail what player loves football,

555
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Speaker 5: that's gonna come.

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Speaker 6: They coming because they love you. Pay me later, I've

557
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Speaker 6: come to play some football. Yeah, that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: Well played football as good as it gets. The National

559
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Speaker 3: Football League.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, All Pro Gary Clark, we

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: She would be in the Hall of Fame. But they

563
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Speaker 6: seem to snub my guy.

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Speaker 5: They seem to snub the Washington guy, the Jacobe's of

565
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Speaker 5: the world, the Brian Mitchell's of the world. I don't

566
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Speaker 5: know what this internal external hate for the Washington guys

567
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Speaker 5: coming from, but we're gonna have to make a step

568
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Speaker 5: forward to get these guys where they just do.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 7: I'm just glad to be on y'all podcast.

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Speaker 1: no him without me. That just the way it goes.

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Speaker 1: So we introduce to Shun Springs. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: We used to talk, We used to talk doing the

584
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Speaker 5: game about nothing, what to do with the game.

585
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Speaker 1: Like we one day we was in New York.

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Speaker 8: I don't know why we just played. Now I'm a preface.

587
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Speaker 8: He's gonna tell the story. We just played them like

588
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Speaker 8: two weeks ago.

589
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Speaker 5: Okay, we in New York. Right, we come to the huddle.

590
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Speaker 5: Brandon Jakes just ran me over.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday night game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, three hundred pounds all right, dude, we get to

593
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Speaker 5: the huddle this man wait wait, relaxed man style.

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Speaker 1: I was like, is it me?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

596
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Speaker 1: These dudes really giants.

597
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Speaker 5: Because we looked at they huddled right, Shock is six

598
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Speaker 5: five to fifty Plexico six six two forty Eli six

599
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Speaker 5: Brandon James six A Monday too of the.

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Speaker 1: Smallest person on the team six three two.

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Speaker 8: Let me let me preface this. Now, this is the

602
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Speaker 8: start of the game. We just played these guys. Now

603
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Speaker 8: we know the conference is big, and smooth comes to me,

604
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Speaker 8: this is the first series talking. I said, oh, he

605
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Speaker 8: must be already playing in this trip.

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Speaker 4: He tells me.

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Speaker 8: They're big and somebody's gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 2: I said, what.

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Speaker 5: We played football, I said. I said, we always get hurt.

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Speaker 5: Dude ain't over this smile and he ain't got two teeth.

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Speaker 5: And then not like we are going to get hurt

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Speaker 5: to days.

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Speaker 8: To me, I said, I said, okay, you're gonna check

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Speaker 8: out what you're doing. He said, I just gotta make

615
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Speaker 8: some business decisions. I said, it's the last game to

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Speaker 8: see is the Houston.

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Speaker 4: We ain't going nowhere?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 5: And they toss sweeping it to me the first time.

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Speaker 5: The first time, I make the tack, cringe tackle like

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Speaker 5: I'm hurting. Second time, he just flat out running over.

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Speaker 4: And then he ran him over and smoops like kicking

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Speaker 4: his legs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna flee in there. I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I'm like, run if they run this thing.

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Speaker 5: The third time you need to get down here. You

627
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Speaker 5: need to get down here. Now we ran covered to

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Speaker 5: they tossed it just like I thought. I look back

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Speaker 5: at the run. I look at Brandon business you said

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Speaker 5: some time so plus the code kind of grabs. He

631
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Speaker 5: ran himself, you know, ple plus co Helmel block.

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Speaker 4: He ran himself out of the plate.

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Speaker 5: I'm wrestling with plexa coach slow motion. I turn and

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Speaker 5: I look and I see a collision the run and

635
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Speaker 5: Brandon Jacobs and Brandon Jacob just crushes him, and I

636
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Speaker 5: think it changed Laburn life. So go to him to

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Speaker 5: get him off the ground. He has just looking his eyes.

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Speaker 5: He comes in there, he just had to look at that.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: Now, now, I'm gonna tell a story. Comes to me

641
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Speaker 8: and he's got his head down on side.

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Speaker 4: I said, what's up, dude? He said, I told.

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Speaker 5: You somebody I've been telling y'all.

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Speaker 8: Nobody want to listen to me, he said. I said,

645
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Speaker 8: he said, let me tell you something. I said, what's

646
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Speaker 8: wrong with Lebron?

647
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Speaker 1: He said.

648
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Speaker 8: I said, I've never been the same again. He said,

649
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Speaker 8: I told you so. I'm like, okay, he said. He said,

650
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you about it in the film room.

651
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Speaker 8: But it got bad. Listen, and Lebron happened. I said,

652
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Speaker 8: what happened? He said, it got bad?

653
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Speaker 1: And Lebrun changed after this, I mean he turned out

654
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Speaker 1: the guy killed. He turned into a bodybuild after this.

655
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Speaker 3: I remember when he went nuts on just trying to

656
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Speaker 3: get ripped Withever.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Brandon Jacobs brand Brandon Jacob's situation.

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Speaker 1: We know the same, La run and I felt like

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Speaker 1: it was my fault.

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Speaker 4: It was the because you put the powder of a

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Speaker 4: dead body around, Yes.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was the chalk line.

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Speaker 5: It was a man there when I looked at him,

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Speaker 5: get up, man, you know.

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Speaker 6: It up.

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Speaker 1: It can't be that man.

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Speaker 2: Uh like.

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Speaker 5: It was one of the worst Collidgeons I ever seen

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Speaker 5: in my life and changed my boy. And now to

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Speaker 5: the day he won big Nick muscle somewhere, we still

672
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Speaker 5: swollen for no reason. You remember we went out one night.

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Speaker 5: He came to my house, so we went out.

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Speaker 1: We go and get them.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't going to he had a monkey. I told

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Speaker 8: you about the monkey had.

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Speaker 5: Time, yes, sir, but listen, he would literally, we're finna

678
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Speaker 5: go out. He came to my house. I like, I

679
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Speaker 5: opened the door for the run. He went right downstairs

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Speaker 5: like what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Dude?

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Speaker 5: He went right to my weight room that never got used.

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Speaker 5: He's down there lifting weights before we go to the club.

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Speaker 1: Are you serious?

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Speaker 5: I like what you're doing now. He like, I gotta

686
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Speaker 5: be a she was walking in here and that was Now.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my official apology, Ron Landry. I am

688
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Speaker 5: sorry that I did not squeeze that gap, that I

689
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Speaker 5: did not sacrifice myself. But the football guy said they

690
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Speaker 5: needed a sacrifice at that time, and I read it.

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Speaker 1: You didn't me. You know it happens.

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Speaker 8: Man, oh man, you're the worst teammate that indeed.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you another story of jinks. We're playing

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Speaker 5: against the Rams in preseason.

695
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Speaker 8: Tory Hoape, that's preferences before smoot the size that he's

696
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 8: gonna bother Elsie All. He's gonna get in a fight

697
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 8: before the game. Like we got in an argument on

698
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Speaker 8: the bus in the locker room. In the locker room

699
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Speaker 8: and he told him he was gonna beat him up.

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Speaker 1: Me.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get along with CP all, la Vernie's all

702
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Speaker 5: these guys because they just like they.

703
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Speaker 1: Played too much.

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Speaker 4: We out here working players.

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Speaker 5: See this is out here dominating and you dudes ain't

706
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Speaker 5: doing nothing.

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Speaker 4: Call him a clowns, show clowns.

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Speaker 1: At the end of.

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Speaker 5: The day, y'all putting up ten points of damn game,

710
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 5: were giving up, died, we can't win, and then you're

711
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: laughing every day bringing.

712
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: McDonald's in the damn building like so.

713
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, check he told him

714
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: they were clowns. It wasn't serious about football.

715
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: And guess what we got rid of Lavernie sit next here,

716
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: and everything else worked itself out.

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Speaker 1: So now we in the game.

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Speaker 5: Right to catch an outright on you supposed to be

719
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Speaker 5: supposed to be supposed to be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 8: Damn hard to check. I get up at the tackling here.

721
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Speaker 8: We're playing man, no great player. Week two we're playing

722
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 8: all man. He doesn't play anything else, straight man against

723
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Speaker 8: the get. He catched the ball on our sideline. I

724
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Speaker 8: get up, look up, said he laughing. Lavernie is laughing.

725
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what, when I get back to

726
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: the sideline, I'm gonna kick your hands and your ass.

727
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: So you young at them while on the Oh yeah.

728
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Speaker 8: Yes, he's gonna fight this guys, he said, When I

729
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 8: get to the sideline, y'all know what it is like man,

730
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 8: he likes, Man, relax, He's like, you want me to

731
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 8: jump on the I'm like, what are you talking about?

732
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: You?

733
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: So I'm upset.

734
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm emotionally there doing the game and I'm like this dude,

735
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 5: he don't make it any better.

736
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Like this is what he does. He's attacking this and

737
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Speaker 1: that's what he does.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, this is funny. Man. I got some stories.

739
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: Man.

740
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: The New England Patriot game was that's a funny one.

741
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: But listen, I was hurt, so I'm not dressed and

742
00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: this is the.

743
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Speaker 4: Let me tell the story. Let me tell the story.

744
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 8: That week we are gonna play the Patriots, who are undefeated.

745
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 8: They got Randy Moss, they are scoring, they didn't broke

746
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 8: the record halfway during the most prolific offense halfway during

747
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 8: the season. Now we're the number one pass defense. Carlos, myself, Smooth,

748
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Speaker 8: Sean Taylor were Sean was nothing the game and Lawn

749
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 8: Smooth during the week pulls his hamstring right because Jerry

750
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Speaker 8: got us running, go smooth pulling. So we go up

751
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Speaker 8: there still confident. We're down a little bit, but we

752
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 8: know our defense is our defense. We go out there

753
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Speaker 8: and we get fifty put on us.

754
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Speaker 4: So bad.

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00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Hear them. It was so bad.

756
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Speaker 8: Yeah, what's the coach of Minnesota? He was the third

757
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 8: string quarterback. He covered a kick and didn put his

758
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 8: quarterback helmet on. Kevin the quarterback for minute of the

759
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 8: head coach for Minnesota? What's the head coach for Mine?

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Speaker 1: O'Connor?

761
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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, what's thirsteam quarterback? He literally covered a kick.

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Speaker 8: At quarterback and then came and put a quarterback helmet

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Speaker 8: and then scored two testdowns on us.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the true story.

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Speaker 8: We got whooped, and we go in the locker room

766
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Speaker 8: and coach Gibb goes, hey, man, it happens.

767
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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 8: Years later I found out that coach Gibbs pretty much

769
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Speaker 8: got I think coach Belichick fired when he was at

770
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 8: Cleveland and the Redskins went up there and they just

771
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Speaker 8: smacked him, and Bill got fired.

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Speaker 4: He didn't want to get him back, so they wanted

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Speaker 4: to get him back.

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Speaker 8: So it was one of those things where we went

775
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Speaker 8: in there and we just got a hammer. Coach Gibbs,

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Speaker 8: we get on the plane, I'm like, I'm down, I'm down.

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Speaker 8: Smooth goes tell me, he said, you know, would been

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Speaker 8: different if I played.

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Speaker 5: You know how we were missing with me right, I

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Speaker 5: sat by fifty.

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Speaker 4: But if it had been different if I played played

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Speaker 4: with the.

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Speaker 1: War Hey Collos tears his knee up.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's third playing.

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Speaker 1: You need to be killful. They all burning people help

786
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Speaker 1: in right, you need to be careful.

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Speaker 8: I'm on Randy Moss like I think I know. I'm

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00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 8: checking masks the oldest over there getting touch like, I'm

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 8: on the sideline and I'm like, you know what, try

790
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 8: to coach you up?

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Speaker 1: They run a do we know that?

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Speaker 5: But I'm always coaching from the sideline A go because

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Speaker 5: I'm a team player. Like if I can't play, at

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00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: least I can share some knowledge. Now I just seen

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Speaker 5: Tom do this to Randy.

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Speaker 1: Watch out. I'm looking like you need to watch out?

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Speaker 5: And then what I that what I love about the

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Speaker 5: game though people don't really get. It's a game inside

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Speaker 5: the game that only players get to share. And I

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Speaker 5: think that's the that's the memories we take. We don't

801
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 5: think about what happened in the game. We'll think about

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00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 5: those times and we share those times, and I think

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Speaker 5: they would make us close Like that thing. I want

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Speaker 3: Here on the show, Great guests Gary Clark Popp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some great gifts. Shun spree Sean came yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're gonna keep it going now and bring

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Speaker 2: in Rentley Weisman. Follow him on Twitter at Rentley twelve.

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Speaker 2: He's a former NFL draft scout, yeah, draft analyst, and

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Speaker 2: he had this really great thread not too long ago

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Speaker 2: where he compared NFL quarterbacks draft quarterbacks yeah to characters

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Speaker 2: from Game of Thrones, and you, more than anyone I know,

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Speaker 2: is a huge Game of Thrones guy.

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Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoy it, enjoyed it.

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Speaker 5: I was mad at you, though, because I wanted you

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Speaker 5: to do old lineman. I want the hound to come

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Speaker 5: in there. I want you to do some defense, lab,

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Speaker 5: I want you to like Once I seen him do that,

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Speaker 5: it started my it started my wheels.

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Speaker 1: To turn, and I was like, well, yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: compare some of these guys also.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna throw out a few of these. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and Fred, I'm gonna let you guys. I'm gonna enjoy it,

846
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: like everyone.

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Speaker 1: Wait, let's go to Western ROAs on him right quick.

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Speaker 6: I'm probably gonna get something.

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Speaker 3: Caleb williams Oberon Martel.

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Speaker 5: I was shocked that you pick ober In with Kate,

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Speaker 5: because when I see Caleb, all I can think of

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00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 5: is the Prince who was promised.

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00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: All I can think of is John Snow.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's been so much said about Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 5: and I'm talking about two, three, four years.

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Speaker 1: He just hung around this So I was like.

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Speaker 5: You know what, to me, Caleb Posita the star of

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Speaker 5: this show. He's the prince who was promised. He's Robert Barratian,

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00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: meaning he has been up there so long that he's

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Speaker 5: got the fat red disease that he.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't rule like he used to rule. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about those two comparisons.

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Speaker 9: I do like the John Snow comparison, just just for

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Speaker 9: the prince I was promised. I think that is a

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Speaker 9: great obviously saying that could be attached to Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 9: The thing with John Snow is though, like he is

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Speaker 9: much more of the stoic, much more of the play

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Speaker 9: with instructure, certainly not a risk taker. By he means

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Speaker 9: he's he's not that guy were Caleb Williams. You know,

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Speaker 9: his main kind of you know, you want to call

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Speaker 9: it a down you know, negative trade or you know

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Speaker 9: we're scouting him mean Some of his concerns is he

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Speaker 9: plays too much out of structure, he invites chaos, doesn't

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Speaker 9: like to take the small wins, loves to go for

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 9: the kind of hero shot, the kill ball, and that

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Speaker 9: leads me to ober and Martella. I mean, look, he

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Speaker 9: is one of, if not the greatest fighter in Western

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Speaker 9: I's history, a master and a bunch of a bunch

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00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 9: of different kind of poisons and things like that, very

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00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 9: similar to Caleb william Is. Where Caleb can you know,

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Speaker 9: throw from different armis armed angles, he can throw off platform.

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Speaker 9: Oberin can kill off platform. He can kill from a

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Speaker 9: different lot of different angles. And to me, the issues

884
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 9: that both would have or they're very much over not excessive,

885
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 9: but they try to do too much right, They can't

886
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 9: just take the he win, lived to fight the next down.

887
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 9: We saw with Caleb Williams this year at USC refuse

888
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Speaker 9: to take the shutdown, refuse to throw the ball, the

889
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 9: ball away that would cause interceptions that called turnovers. Ober

890
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 9: and Martel refuse to just take the easy win against

891
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 9: the mountain, got to cocky, started talking and gave up

892
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 9: the wing. So I like the John Snow comparison, but

893
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 9: I got to stick at my ober Marteau one, Oh.

894
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: I like that one. I like that he kind of

895
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: he kind of sliced and dice me right there. But

896
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: the Prince's problems, I thought it was just so perfect

897
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: right there.

898
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: Do both of these guys paint their nails?

899
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Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, no, you know what Obra

900
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: and Martel. He is the guy I do that. I

901
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: know he is the guy to do that.

902
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 5: And he's flashy. He's right about there. He's flashy. He's

903
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: gonna be edgy when he do stuff. And also he

904
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: had the mountain right where he wanted him and he

905
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: just had to just just splurge a little bit too

906
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: long cost him his life.

907
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Speaker 3: Let's go with another one here, Drake May Rob Stark.

908
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: Now, when you said Drake May is Rob Stark, I

909
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: tried to think. I looked around and I said, you

910
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 5: know what, so litt Jamie Lanister in there, the best

911
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 5: saw it in Western roast over there.

912
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: But then when you when you said Rob Stark, I said, yeah,

913
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Speaker 1: the young wolf.

914
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Speaker 5: And I looked at the quarterbacks, and he is the

915
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 5: youngest out the bunch. One of the best leaders.

916
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Speaker 1: Can't be overzealous at some time.

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Speaker 5: So I actually agreed it was one of the few

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00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 5: I agreed with you with Rob Stark.

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Speaker 1: Tell me why you chose Rob at this one?

920
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, So you know, Rob starts and Drake May, I

921
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 9: think makes a lot of sense. As you mentioned, Uh,

922
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 9: you know, Rob Stark's nicknaming the show is the Young

923
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 9: Wolf and Drake May is the youngest of these quarterback prospects,

924
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 9: and really both had a lot of success early on

925
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Speaker 9: in their careers. Think about Drake May, he first popped

926
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Speaker 9: under the scene as true freshman. I mean he was phenomenal,

927
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Speaker 9: and then he followed up the freshman year with a great,

928
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 9: great sophomore year. And and look at Rob Stark, I

929
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Speaker 9: mean he won his first four battles, got three battles

930
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Speaker 9: in the Battles of the Five Kings, one obviously at

931
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Speaker 9: the Whispering Would where he was able to kind of

932
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Speaker 9: capture Jamie l Anister. So I mean, I see a

933
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Speaker 9: lot of similarities with the early success. But with that

934
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Speaker 9: early success led to kind of their later struggles. Right

935
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Speaker 9: where Drake May, I think he had such early success,

936
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Speaker 9: he was really over confident in his ability to make

937
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 9: some throws. I think Drake may Is issue is he

938
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 9: has a rocket arm, He's very accurate down the field,

939
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 9: he knows where to go to football, but there are

940
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Speaker 9: times where he takes these risks. He makes these decisions

941
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 9: that our dress will watch.

942
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 6: You make that throw.

943
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 9: You know you're throwing into double coverage.

944
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 6: I know you can get it.

945
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Speaker 9: There, but there's higher percentage throws available. You didn't have

946
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 9: to take that risk. Same with Rob Stark. I mean

947
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Speaker 9: he did not have to cross the you know, cross

948
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 9: the bridge to the to the Twins to try to

949
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 9: go through Walter Frey after he already betrayed him, like

950
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Speaker 9: he didn't have to execute his his bannerman more cars

951
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 9: start was. There's unnecessary risks that both of them take

952
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 9: later in their career that I think stemmed from their

953
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 9: early success, and so I think that makes a lot

954
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 9: of sense. They both have high upside. I love me

955
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 9: about to start. He was a character before his untimely end.

956
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 9: But I think this one makes a lot of sense.

957
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: I see a lot of Denari's first husband, Joe Goo

958
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: in him too, because he started off, like you said,

959
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: started off so fast, but then framed out before he

960
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: even could get started.

961
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: All these cameras are coming.

962
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Speaker 4: I like that.

963
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: I like that going to be like I might get

964
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Speaker 1: this name wrong, Jane Daniels, and are you start? Are

965
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: your stock? You hit it right on the head right there.

966
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: Now, this is one that I really really gotta get

967
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 5: you on right here, because why do you are you for?

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00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels?

969
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, for me, it's the career growth, right.

970
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 9: You think about where Aria started. She was, I think

971
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 9: the know, the thirty youngest of the Stark children, the

972
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 9: youngest little girl of the Stark children. And she really

973
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 9: kind of went after Ned was executed. She had to

974
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 9: go into hiding with the up to the wall with

975
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 9: God blaking on his knee. But you know, up up

976
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 9: up to the wall, right with the hound and the

977
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Speaker 9: guy from the Gosh the Knight's Watch, and her journey,

978
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 9: I mean she's in rags to rickets, right, she is

979
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 9: literally sleeping on the road on the King's Road is

980
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Speaker 9: at the lowest point, and you know, you just see

981
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 9: her evolution from okay, yeah, she's on the King's Round

982
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 9: as a traveler, and then she goes to Bravos and

983
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 9: learns the ways of the many faced Men, and then

984
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 9: she comes back to West ROAs and kind of seeks

985
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 9: yourvenge for the starts and you just kind of see

986
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 9: her grow step steps season by season, which ultimately leads

987
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 9: her to kind of be the hero of the show

988
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 9: in The Long Night, where she kind of is able

989
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 9: to make the finishing kill against the Night King and Cyber.

990
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Speaker 9: Spoilers for those who haven't watched the game with the rounds,

991
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 9: but at that point you probably should have by now,

992
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 9: so I don't feel too bad. I think Jayden Daniels, right,

993
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 9: Jayden Daniels, I mean think I'm a Pac twelve guy.

994
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 9: You see the Oregon stuff. I've watched Jayden Daniels since

995
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 9: his true freshman year at Arizona State. I think this

996
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 9: is back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, so I mean

997
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 9: he played Herbert. I mean, so he's been around the block.

998
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 9: You see him steadily improved year after year after year

999
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 9: after year, which obviously culminates to this past year, which

1000
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 9: legend in the Heiden Trophy led him to go from

1001
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 9: a mid round quarterback who has some athleticism, has some

1002
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 9: upside to now a surefire top five prospect, a guy

1003
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Speaker 9: who is arguably the second best quarterback in this class.

1004
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of similarities in the growth

1005
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 9: of the two. You know, of Aria and Jaden Daniels,

1006
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 9: and then it's fun. Obviously, I can kind of view

1007
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 9: the dual threat thing. Aria obviously really good with the

1008
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 9: sword but also has a dual threat with the ability to.

1009
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 6: Change faces and a kind of stuff.

1010
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, and Jane and Daniels obviously with his legs

1011
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 9: in his arm. And then lastly the slender frames. I

1012
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 9: think it's an easy kind of throwing. Dad and Daniels scrownie,

1013
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 9: very slight, Aria obviously very slight, very scrownie. Both have to,

1014
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 9: you know, take better care in terms of not taking

1015
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 9: big hits, not taking shots to make sure they last

1016
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Speaker 9: in their careers. And so I really like this one.

1017
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Speaker 1: I liked them.

1018
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 9: Surprised he didn't like it.

1019
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: No, I did, Like you, I like to throw a

1020
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: card ball in there.

1021
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Speaker 5: Speaking of the many face men, jack and hood gud

1022
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 5: who that's who I when I looked at it, I'm like,

1023
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: you know.

1024
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: What, because he got many faces.

1025
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Speaker 5: Jane Daniels, like you said, he started all kind of

1026
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Speaker 5: slow in Arizona State. Indeed, he busted on the scene

1027
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 5: and unless you and he became the kingslive. So at

1028
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Speaker 5: the end of the day, when I say Jackie hjoh.

1029
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 5: I'm saying, which face am I getting from jayde Daniels?

1030
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Speaker 2: Like?

1031
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Is he a little bit of RG three? Is he

1032
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Speaker 1: more CJ? Scrubb is like when you see him who like?

1033
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes he confuses me? And that's why I chose JACKI

1034
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: and Hujah because I like, that's a dude that got

1035
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: many faces. He could be who he needs to be.

1036
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: You brought that up.

1037
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Speaker 5: He could be who he needs to be any game.

1038
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: If he needs to rest for one hundred yards, he

1039
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: a rest for one hundred. Yet if you need to

1040
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 5: throw for four hundred, he could throw.

1041
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Speaker 1: For four hundred. So I thought you would go with

1042
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: him because he can adjest to any situation.

1043
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Speaker 2: Like that.

1044
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Speaker 9: I really like that angle.

1045
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Speaker 6: Love that angle.

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Speaker 2: Actually he's Brientley Weisman, former NFL scout and draft and

1047
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Speaker 2: let's follow him on Twitter at Brentley twelve. Obviously he

1048
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Speaker 2: knows his Game of Thrones as well, and we appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time Brientley, thank you so much. Thanks for being

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Speaker 2: with us here to get loud podcasts. That's just a

1051
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Speaker 2: little bit of what we talked about the past year.

1052
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Speaker 3: And we got a lot more to come.

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