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Speaker 4: Bag episode and Saturday November eighteenth, as always, Jenkis and

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Speaker 2: Aka Tyler, Hey, everybody, I'm a good.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much everyone'submitting questions. Got a bunch of

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Speaker 4: great stuff. Probably won't get to everything, but really appreciate

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Speaker 4: everyone who took the time to write in. Got some

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Speaker 4: uh from uh Joe j o H. First question out

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Speaker 4: of the I'm interested. Mine's easy, but I'm interested for

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Speaker 4: your guys. Answer to this. Out of the four main

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Speaker 4: meat categories, chicken, beef, pork, and seafood, and he said

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Speaker 4: seafood is all encompassing shellfish and fish. If you had

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Speaker 4: to sacrifice one to never eat again, which meat would

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Speaker 4: it be? And why? Tyler Street good one.

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Speaker 5: It will be beef. It will be beef.

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Speaker 6: Really yeah, angry, And I was expecting some pushback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be because here's the thing. It's it's

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Speaker 3: the least versatile I'm so serious. Look, it's it's the

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Speaker 3: saying a beef is trashed. Beef is fucking delicious when

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, until you get that motherfucking steak or that

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Speaker 3: can do so much. Like with pork, you know, you

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Speaker 3: got you know, your pepperoni, pizza, bacon, fucking sausage, pork chops,

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Speaker 3: pork shoulder, like, you can do all types of shit

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Speaker 3: Like all types of shit with that. And seafood like

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Speaker 5: So I'm going with beef.

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Speaker 3: And the main reason why, like I said, it's not

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going with chicken, and it really I

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had chicken.

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Speaker 4: we don't eat seafood. But if I were to cut

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Speaker 1: Important to like being Italian? Just like chicken is. We're

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Speaker 4: Is kind of yes, But I think more important to me,

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Speaker 4: Pushback, I he penciled it in.

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Speaker 6: I although my world is kind of spinning, I kind

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Speaker 4: There's so many cultures in Southern California and they all

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Speaker 4: do something delicious with red meat. And that's also true

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Speaker 6: But like, yeah, yeah, I still I still think my

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Speaker 6: like deep core inside connection to like eating karaoki chicken.

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Speaker 6: There's like something like so like Asian and Hawaiian about it.

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Speaker 6: of me about eating Chickenotic.

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Speaker 3: Bro like like that mall bourbon chicken from like a

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Speaker 3: Chinese spot, fucking delicious, the most delicious, fucking eight dollars

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Speaker 3: you're gonna spend on some trash chicken, bro, it's so

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Speaker 1: That ship held me down for a long time. Bro,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm trying to gainst my

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, yeas junior spicy chicken sandwiches.

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Speaker 4: of a fucking someone's scraped out of someone's tired tread probably,

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Speaker 4: but each patty contains pieces from at least one hundred chickens,

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Speaker 4: like it was a hot dog in chicken patty form.

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Speaker 4: Basically is what those Carls. Junior chicken sandwich.

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Speaker 1: Chicken patty Day in high school was fire as fun,

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Speaker 2: Sicken patty Day and Pizza Day were the two special days.

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Speaker 1: Damn, I might I might have to say pork because

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Speaker 1: I do like beef ribs too, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean. I don't know, it's hard, bro,

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Speaker 2: I might have to say pork.

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Speaker 4: Bro. I think beef ribs are closer to substituting for

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Speaker 4: pork ribs than than any of the reverse substitutes.

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Speaker 1: But I do like them greatly, just like pork ribs greatly, you.

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Speaker 4: All Right, a question to Tyler. This is just a

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Speaker 4: your mouth BBQ emails and said, why did y'all let

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Speaker 3: Dog No, no, go ahead and read the Heatail thisfuck

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Speaker 3: standing on some semantics, boship, But go ahead to read

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Speaker 5: He just at the day. In my eyes, bro, dude.

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Speaker 4: He's standing on on not business. He said that. He

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Speaker 2: So can I say this too. We don't give a

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about that, bro, all right,

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Speaker 1: but Tyler, go ahead, and do you think I just

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Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know you, but go ahead, like like bro,

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Speaker 3: like like bro. I never said that a webber kettle

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Speaker 3: smoking your meat. It can function as a smoker. You're

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Speaker 3: the facto smoker, right And people that, yeah, exactly, exactly,

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Speaker 3: that episode, and you put the meat on the other

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Speaker 3: coals isn't cause to meet. The smoke is cooking the meat.

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Speaker 3: And when the smoke cooks the meat, motherfucker you're smoking

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Speaker 5: That is like all three of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so basic relationship, if you know what's funny. We

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Speaker 3: I would say the advice that I would give is

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Speaker 3: Like favorite thing about me and Summer is we fucking

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Speaker 5: My best fucking friend.

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Speaker 3: Like I know that that's the corny cliche shit to

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Speaker 1: I think the key for me has been moving out

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Speaker 1: You know, what we see on television is not realistic.

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Speaker 3: our generation who grew up with the music is he

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00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: was a central piece to so many moments, right, like

436
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 3: you look at you know, when he came along with

437
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: reasonable doubt, he kind of helped usher in like the

438
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 3: Mafielsa rap error where you know you had Nas you know,

439
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: calling himself Escabar and doing the Firm shit, and Biggie was,

440
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 3: you know, on his Frank White King of New York ship,

441
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: and you had Ray Kwan and ghost Face you know

442
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: on the Purple tape you know, on their Mafiosa shit.

443
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: So he was part of that movement. Then like you know,

444
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 3: he he he really had his star moment with Volume

445
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: two where he had the Anti sample, which was just

446
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: like unlike some shit we had never heard at that moment,

447
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: just an incredible fucking, you know risk that he took

448
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 3: with with with that sound produced by Mark the forty

449
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Speaker 3: five King r Pizza.

450
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 5: That dude.

451
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: And then he kind of he's you know, he wasn't

452
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 3: one of the first guys to fuck with Neptunes, like

453
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: Noriega's probably the guy that made him hot. And they

454
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: did shit with Mace two. But give it to like,

455
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 3: like Forrell has said, give it to me. That was

456
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: the record that had you know, the Neptune's phones ringing.

457
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 3: After they gave Jay that, they said, you know, that

458
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: blew them up. And then he had the Blueprint where

459
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: he was like Okay, you know this was two thousand

460
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: and one when everything was futuristic sound, right When when

461
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: when Timbaland and fucking you know Neptunes were you know,

462
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: d kings of sound. And he goes with Kanye and

463
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 3: just blazed and they're bringing back seventy soul samples, you

464
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And that led to like Dipset's

465
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: whole sound with heat Makers when they were using the

466
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 3: sped up soul and shit too.

467
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 4: Right.

468
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: So jay Z's just been an integral part of just

469
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: so many moments in rap. And besides that, the motherfucker

470
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 3: just made really good music. But I can understand why

471
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: someone you know, like say a twenty five year old

472
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: doesn't understand, you know, the appeal of Jay because we're

473
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: in the era now of like melody right where where

474
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: you know, you need some melody in your song, you

475
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: need to be singing on half your song, you need

476
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: to have a sing song, you flow and all that,

477
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: and that wasn't Jay. He was just straight up a rapper, right,

478
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: So I can understand why, you know, a younger person

479
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: does not see the appela j But for those that

480
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: lived it, he was the real deal. Nothing overrated about

481
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: that man one of like like the if you like,

482
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: I would pick him as the goat even though he's

483
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: not my favorite rapper ever, he would get my voters

484
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: to go.

485
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: I feel also like with the anything like, he opened

486
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: that up for everybody else to use that you feel me.

487
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: He stamped UGK like UK was already popping, you know

488
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

489
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: But when he yeah you did that, Yeah, that's another

490
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: moment he helped legitimate. Yeah, he legitimate self help hopping

491
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: on the High remix, you know, hopping on Big pamping

492
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: on UGK. For sure, that was another moment that he

493
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: was a part of.

494
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: And also he understood the importance of making singles that

495
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: the masses love. But he never let that, you know

496
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, He never never never let that. You know,

497
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: Ruin like his albums, you feel me like he on

498
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: the albums he was fucking rapping. He might give you

499
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: like the Anti sample, you know what I'm saying, or

500
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: like his singles are made for the masses, but the

501
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: album was for fucking rap fans, you know what I'm saying.

502
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: So really I would skip all his singles, even though

503
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: they were good. I would skip his singles. Will listen

504
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: to his albums because the ship he gave us on

505
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: the albums was always on fire and the singles were

506
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: just so, you know, hell to play. But I love

507
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: how he did that, Like how could how he found

508
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: a way to balance where he was like, Yo, I know,

509
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: I need to make this ship that everybody can bounce

510
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: their head to.

511
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: When it's gonna be is gonna be catchy.

512
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: But like when you listen to my album, you gonna

513
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: know I'm a motherfucking rapper, nikka, you know what I'm saying.

514
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: And even though he talked that bravado shit, I never

515
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: felt like he was talking down about me, you know

516
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And maybe that's just my experience, but

517
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: I always felt it was motivational in a way, you

518
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, that's why I fucked

519
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: with jay Z. But I mean, yeah, jay Z my

520
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: favorite rapper of all time?

521
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Speaker 5: You feel me?

522
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: All right? We got a question from Summer Longtime listener

523
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 4: and she's a fab fresh and fly on Twitter. I

524
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: assume if you put your Twitter handle on the question,

525
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: you want me to show your Twitter handle out, so

526
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: hopefully that's correct. But she asks as millennials excluding Jackson

527
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: I think it's actually no, Jackson is a millennial. He's

528
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 4: just on the other end of the spectrum, she says.

529
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: I think it's safe to say we all grew up

530
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: hearing our parents say things like do you have McDonald

531
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: you have McDonald's money, I was born at night, but

532
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: not last night, or adding a random s to things

533
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: like Nordstrom's, Kroger's, et cetera. Uh, what's something that you

534
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 4: find yourself saying or doing at your big age that

535
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have done twenty years ago.

536
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting.

537
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: I will say, And I'm not sure this is exactly

538
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: what she means, but I definitely find myself saying shit

539
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: that my parents said to me. Like that is such

540
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: a true stereotype of like I will say something that

541
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: my mom said to me without realizing it, and then

542
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: as soon as I hear it come out of my mouth,

543
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: it's just like the world glitches and I just like

544
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: I just stand there for ten seconds, like I feel

545
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: like I time traveled or something like did I just

546
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 4: I just fucking say, uh, you know something about how

547
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: my time is just as valuable as your time, or

548
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 4: like whatever the fuck? So that's that always tripped me out.

549
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: But what do y'all go?

550
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: Bro, Like the whole You'll see, keep on living. Like

551
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: I say that in my head so many times when

552
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm like scrolling on Twitter and I just see like

553
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: a young d with very you know, unrealistic world for

554
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: your opinion or something, you know what I mean. Like,

555
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: so yeah, I would say that is for sure something

556
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: I lean I lean on a whole lot though, you'll see,

557
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: just keep on living.

558
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 5: I don't think.

559
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: I've gotten to the point as a parent, you know

560
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying where I'm repeating it because like some

561
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: of me still too, you feel me like She's like,

562
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh, I think the most I've

563
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: done and it will be like you know who you

564
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: think you are?

565
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

566
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 5: Who you know what I mean?

567
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: Which is more granny than really mother, you know what

568
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

569
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: So I probably will see more of it that somemy

570
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: gets older, for sure, But yeah, not much at the point.

571
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: But I do like I do hear myself, like if

572
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm firing somebody up, you know what I'm saying or

573
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: going back and forth, I do hear my mom, which

574
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: is wild. I'll be like, damn, bro, like like that,

575
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: like that is low. I'm gonna say, I want to

576
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: say a whole first last name, Jesus Christ.

577
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But that that's that's all right.

578
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: Damn I'm feeling crazy.

579
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, uh, Beca says uh A kid's significant other

580
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: getting to take the meat out of the freezer and

581
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: messing up dinner. So that's another one. It's like when

582
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: I was a kid, I didn't understand why that was

583
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: such a big deal, But I get it now. It's like, no,

584
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: I timed everything around this one action that I needed

585
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: you to take, or you just have so.

586
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: Many things going on in your head and you just

587
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: had to ask one thing.

588
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: So I'll get that. I can get how that could

589
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: have been frustrated.

590
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: You know.

591
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: Summer also asks a ps And I'm curious about this.

592
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: Have y'all heard of the album Banging On Wax.

593
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 5: Banging On?

594
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: That's this is one of those like West Coast rap

595
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 4: things like that's above the law, right, I think, No,

596
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: it's a it was a super group of of crips

597
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 4: and blood like who like came together to like tie that.

598
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never saw that, but I did. I mean,

599
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: I never heard it but I am aware. Yes, yeah,

600
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: I remember the cover to this album.

601
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't think I've ever heard a song,

602
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

603
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 3: So uh, banging on Domino was on it. Dom know

604
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: had his debut, Yeah, the Ghetto Potato, Yeah, yeah he was.

605
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: He's some Lobies too.

606
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 4: I think I think there's there's There's Long Beach and

607
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: l A Dudes and some of this. I don't know

608
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 4: if it was recorded at VIP Records in Long Beach,

609
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: but I know that Kelvin was like very instrumental in

610
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 4: promoting it because you would go in there. If you

611
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: went in and you bought like a Warren g album

612
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: at VIP Records, he would go if you really like

613
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: some gangster ship like slide Banging on wax Across. But

614
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: it was like a genuine project, like after n W

615
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: a of like let's bring people together and show that,

616
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: you know, gangsters can rap together and stuff. But bro

617
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: and nothing takes me back to the nineties, like looking

618
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: at this ship and it's like slob Ko like Sea

619
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: Sick Crip was one of the Craig Waxrip Crip Crip

620
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: that's where the Homing Triple c On Twitter r I

621
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: P came from. Uh, but they did. I think they

622
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: did two or three of the albums and then I

623
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: just remember banging on Wax was always like a joke

624
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: among my friends and me because ultimately the Bloods, like

625
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: guess how the Blood and Crypt supergroup ended is that

626
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: they broke up and the Bloods formed their own group

627
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: and the Crips formed their own group. They kept recording,

628
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: but not together, just like well, yeah, I guess. Yeah.

629
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: Oh man, I appreciate that question because I have not

630
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: thought about banging on wax in a fucking minute. Miguel

631
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: Chavez says, y'all have a magical taste in music. Drop

632
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: links to some playlists, Uh, John, we got to find

633
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: a way to formalize you playlisting or throwing recommendation. I

634
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: feel we still get that question so frequently from people

635
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: of just like I.

636
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Stop making playlist.

637
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean I might, I might do that. I need

638
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: to do that for myself anyway, honestly, you know what

639
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, so yeah, I used to. Yeah, I

640
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: might still make it playlist, but I do we can

641
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: just drop them on the pot, like you feel me.

642
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: Curator of Vibes Volume one coming down, don't connect me

643
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: to that woman.

644
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: You're reclaiming it. You're reclaiming the curative vibes.

645
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, taking it from yes Jules.

646
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: All right. Kyle Morton says he's been a full time

647
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: middle school teacher for the last couple of years. He's

648
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: burnt out decided to leave education, a full time job

649
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: behind him. I've been passionate about photography my whole life,

650
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: and I'm jumping into becoming a freelancer and subbing to

651
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: keep myself afloat. Any tips on how to get started

652
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Speaker 4: in a new field, specifically photography, hmmmm. I do actually

653
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: have a fair amount of experience freelancing. I freelance to

654
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: support myself as a writer through college, and then I

655
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: got my first full time job as a sports writer

656
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: when I was twenty three, But from like eighteen to

657
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: twenty three, I was freelancing, and I still freelance quite

658
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: a bit. I think, first of all, I would say

659
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: photography in twenty twenty three is a super challenging place

660
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: to try and make a lane, just because the equipment

661
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 4: is so much more available and utilized now. Like when

662
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: we were in college, if you had a good DSLR setup,

663
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: you probably could make a living just because it was

664
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: like the actually.

665
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: The person that the DSLR setup, you know.

666
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: That was what they're right, They were hiring the camera

667
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: as much as they were hiring you. And now you know,

668
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: cameras are so much cheaper and more accessible. So I

669
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: would say the one piece of advice I'd give because

670
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 4: all I knew when I was a kid and when

671
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: I was in high school that I wanted to be

672
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: a writer, and I didn't. I just like I just

673
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: didn't want to make a living do anything else. It

674
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: was the only thing I felt like I was good at.

675
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 4: So when I was in college, and I think I've

676
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: told this story on the pod, I freelanced as a

677
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: ghostwriter for an old timer magazine for like aging baby boomers.

678
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: It was called like Golden Times, and I would just

679
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: pretend to be an old lady writing or columnist. I mean,

680
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: like I freelanced the wildest shit like possible, because it

681
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: was just about like getting money and building something. So

682
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 4: I would say, if you're truly jumping into it as

683
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: a professional for the first time, don't like I would

684
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: say this, chase money, like if you do some like

685
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: really goofy weird shit, but it's paying do that over

686
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 4: someone lying to you and saying do this thing that

687
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: sounds cooler, but that is going to give you exposure,

688
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: Like chase the money, because the more you have a

689
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: record of people paying you, the easier it's going to

690
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: be for you to actually get a job in it.

691
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: And so for me, again, I sports is actually a

692
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: weird thing that I fell into. I was not trying

693
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: to be a sports writer. That was the first full

694
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: time writing job that was available to me, and then

695
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 4: I like sports, so I've just been living in that.

696
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: But like, ask anything like take class photos for elementary

697
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: school kids, go to youth baseball fields near you, and

698
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: and you know, obviously try not to look like a weirdo,

699
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: but like you know, make yourself a card and hire

700
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: yourself out. Like, hey, do you parents want to get

701
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars together? I'll take photos of your kids

702
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: and send you this stuff for it, Like whatever it is,

703
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: just get out there and hustle. And as backwards as

704
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: it might sound, I would say, when you're early in

705
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: a freelancing career, put the money first, because until you

706
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: establish that, like I have a rate and I have

707
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: enough work available to me that I say, notice stuff

708
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: that's under my rate, you're not going to get to

709
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: a real job that would actually support you the way

710
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: that teaching has.

711
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Speaker 1: And if you want to do something RC do that

712
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: on your own time. And if you know, if you

713
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: stink five things you like, you know, add that to

714
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: your CV as well, you know what I mean. But

715
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: like Mike said, that will stamp you as somebody who's

716
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: reliable and can do you know, paid work, you know,

717
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: or potentially corporate work, you know what I mean. But

718
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: if you if you are into things that are more creative,

719
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: put that on there too. And hopefully after you do

720
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: the things that are like Mike was saying, people will

721
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: hire you for those two when.

722
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: They see your full CV.

723
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: So but yeah, if if there's things that you know

724
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: you aren't that you want to do, that you can't

725
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: do that you're not being hired to do, or you

726
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: don't have the opportunity to do, do that on your

727
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: own time, and add those things to your CV as well.

728
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Show your capabilities.

729
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 6: And I would say, sort of jumping out both those things,

730
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 6: which I agree, like put the money first because you

731
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 6: need money to live in America, and doun the stuff

732
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: that you like doing on the side, I would just say,

733
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 6: like it sounds obvious, like take a fuck kind of pictures,

734
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 6: like whatever you like taking pictures of, whether it's animals

735
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 6: or like plants or the sky or whatever. Like, just

736
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 6: take so many, so many, get as many reps in

737
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 6: as you can get of all the things that you

738
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 6: like taking pictures of, and then host the best one

739
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 6: on Instagram and TikTok.

740
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: Yep yep, TikTok in particular, because that's a great place

741
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: to scale. Also, like YouTube has a ton of like

742
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: learning like things that you can learn from as well,

743
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Like where there's videography, just can credit credit ways as

744
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: well editing.

745
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

746
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: So you know, just you know, dive into your craft,

747
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: become obsessed with it.

748
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: You feel me and and you can find ways to

749
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: set yourself apart as well.

750
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: Be code chimes in with you social media to post

751
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 4: your content, find other shooters in your area to shoot

752
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: with them, reach out to people via shoot events to

753
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: shoot when you service some mess. Yeah, those are all

754
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: good piece of advice too, okay, Thomas uh Thomas asks uh?

755
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: He says. On the Knuckleheads podcast, they start off by

756
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: asking their guests who is the first person to bust

757
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: your ass. So the question to us is, if we

758
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: had to choose pause, who would you pick to bust

759
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: your ass? Like Curry did.

760
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: Wow in that?

761
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry?

762
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

763
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: Like, historically you'd have to say Alan Iverson, right, Like,

764
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: if there's if there's any player that you were like,

765
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: I would love to have video of me getting embarrassed

766
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 4: by a basketball player. Would it not have to be

767
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: Alan Iverson?

768
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: That would probably be my pick.

769
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, bron is my goat, but as

770
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: my favorite player of all time, so it'll probably be

771
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: off of me.

772
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: Like you'd frame that video, Like if you had a

773
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: video of Ai crossing you into the third row, you

774
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: would frame that video?

775
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: Would I mean that?

776
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: I think?

777
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: I think that's number one? I think Also for me personally,

778
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: I would love like that would have been dope to

779
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: have like Nick Vannex drop forty on me. You know

780
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You said I loved this game. It

781
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: would be a beautiful forty you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,

782
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: bouncing game man and that bouncy ass left handed game.

783
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I would love to going on the side

784
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: of a forty ball from Nick.

785
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 4: That next, interestingly, uh, he he asks an alternative question.

786
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: He asked actually about Bryce Harper, uh, being a guy

787
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: that he remembers when Bryce Harper was in Sports illustrating

788
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: at sixteen and he said, for whatever reason, that issue

789
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: rubbed me the wrong way and I didn't like him

790
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: for a while after that when he joined when he

791
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 4: joined the Phillies, I turned to a corner. Or maybe

792
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: I just matured and couldn't help but enjoy watching him play.

793
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: So his question is what athlete did you start off

794
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 4: hating that you now love? Oh? Actually, so it doesn't

795
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: have to be a sports figure, but yeah, who's someone

796
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: you started off hating that you're now a fan of.

797
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 4: I like that question.

798
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: Hmm, that is a good question. Let me think really

799
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: hate athletest.

800
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: My best friend Connor, one of my best friends, Connor

801
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: and I I've hat like the first time I met him,

802
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: I was like, this motherfucker is annoying.

803
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got I got a plenty of friends.

804
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 4: In the NBA.

805
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 6: I think Blake Griffin has won for me. But he

806
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 6: came in he was like really he would get in

807
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: fights a lot, and I was like, why is this

808
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: guy so fucking annoying all the time?

809
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: And then I was like Griffin trying to fight him though, right,

810
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: that's yeah.

811
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 6: I feel like it's it's like if you if you're

812
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 6: in the common denominator of like ten fights in a row,

813
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 6: you might be the reason they're getting in fights. That

814
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 6: I was like, also like a kid, and I was like,

815
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 6: why is he like just so angry you're getting in

816
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: fights all the time. But now I'm a huge blake

817
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: griffing fan. I like his game and also like he

818
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 6: seems real, like genuinely very funny and like a really

819
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 6: interesting guy.

820
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: I would I would Charles Barkley bro the way they

821
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah.

822
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I think at first like they tried to make us

823
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: hate him, and then we started realizing like, yo, he's

824
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: just a real one. You feel me like he you

825
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he just doesn't he just

826
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: he just is not, you know, going for the bullshit.

827
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna be exactly who he is. And there's and

828
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, so I think Chuck was a guy that

829
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: they like they I was, you know, supposed to hate

830
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: at least initially, you know, and I did, And then I.

831
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Was like, no, I kind of I kind of fuck

832
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: would this dude? I don't know what you are.

833
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think anyone who played against Michael Jordan would

834
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: be an easy answer for me, because I was such

835
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: an MJ fan that it was like, you know, fuck

836
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: everything else, Like.

837
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: How dared anti MJ. That's kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah.

838
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah right, which is hilarious because there was like basically

839
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: they're the exact same person. If anything, Charles was actually

840
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: probably like Mexer to kids. He was probably more of

841
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: a role model than Michael Jordan.

842
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: J was more Chuck than Chuck.

843
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: You fear me, Lakers fans will killed me for saying this,

844
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: but my honest answer to this would probably actually be

845
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant, Like, and I love Kobe, I love young Kobe,

846
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: but when this split happened, I went with Shack like

847
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: dad got me in the divorce, you know what I mean,

848
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: And and I was like, I was furious. I was like,

849
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: we kept Kobe over Shack, Like this is crazy. And

850
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: and then you know, obviously you know, uh the off

851
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: court stuff with Kobe as well. But then like throughout

852
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: the rest of his career, I came to like appreciate

853
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: who he was as a dad and the community work

854
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: he was doing and stuff like that. To the point that,

855
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 4: as I've said on the pod, like his last game,

856
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like crying, you know what

857
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean, he just like kept shooting and everything. So

858
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: definitely Kobe because he's one of my very favorite athletes

859
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 4: of all time now, but for a time I was

860
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 4: definitely like I resented his existence on my favorite basketball

861
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: team because I felt like we should have gone all

862
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 4: in with Shack.

863
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 6: I also I also have Alex Rodriguez, not not that

864
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 6: I ever liked him. I'm a Red Sox fan who

865
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 6: grew up in Seattle, so like he left the Mariners

866
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 6: and then he went to the Rangers, and then he

867
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 6: went to the Yankees, so I was like, really easy

868
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 6: he was, and then he was just annoying as fuck

869
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 6: on the Yankees. So it's so easy to hate him.

870
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 6: And I never came around to him as an athlete,

871
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 6: but as a commentator, I think he's really funny.

872
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 5: I still have a still.

873
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 6: But as a commentator, I think he's very funny. I

874
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 6: think he's very good, and it's great to see him

875
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 6: and David Dartiez like go at each other on the desk.

876
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 5: It's really funny.

877
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: I enjoyed your a Rod uh do a leap comparison

878
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: on Twitter.

879
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 6: Of that pictures are startlingly similar.

880
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 4: But y'all have seen the photo of a rod looking

881
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: at himself in the mirror like I'm gonna.

882
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

883
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 4: Movements, okay, uh, Davon asks, And first of all, I

884
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 4: do appreciate everyone who uh, I feel like recently we've

885
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: gotten a lot of people saying nice stuff about us

886
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: being non toxic masculinity or whatnot.

887
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: And I am on men's business.

888
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I actually I just want to say, I

889
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: do I really appreciate that because I think that's something

890
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: I try to do quite a bit in my day

891
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: job as well of like teaching like teenage boys, like

892
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: it's okay to be a boy and have all this

893
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: like energy and all this stuff. And there's a way

894
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: to do that without like hating women, you know, like whatever.

895
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: Like that, there are are like positive forms of masculinity,

896
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: so that that always means a lot to me when

897
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: people say we hit the mark on that. But Damon's

898
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: question is how much do I gotta pay Tyler to

899
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: send me one of the meat boxes. It sounds so fire.

900
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: I will pay top dollar. Name your dollar, Tyler. Consider

901
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: this email a blank check, and he said, I'm trying

902
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 4: to take this beautiful, carnivorous woman on a picnic with

903
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: some prime eating she can't get anywhere else. Please help

904
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: a young brother out.

905
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 5: We'll talk business. I'll business, We'll talk bacon.

906
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 4: You are all right? I love that, I will say, Dave,

907
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 4: we did just put out a podcast. You know you

908
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: could you could become your own Tyler Meatbox. You know, yeah, exactly?

909
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: Okay.

910
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: Alexander asks, he's a Milwaukee guy, curious about our thoughts

911
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 4: on Milwaukee season so far, then a rough start for

912
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: us after some high expectations of the Dame trade, hoping

913
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 4: to turn around since it's still early. And he also

914
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: had a book recommendation for me that I will for

915
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: sure check out because it looks interesting as hell. Yeah. Actually,

916
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: this is a great question. What are your guys thoughts

917
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: on where in Milwaukee is now versus what the playoffs

918
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: looks like for them? You know, what your your feelings

919
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: are on their season versus what we thought before the

920
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: year started.

921
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: I think that there's really not too much to be

922
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: concerned about with Dame, you know, new team. He didn't

923
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: get to get those you know, training camp reps in

924
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: with them and all that shit, right, It's gonna take

925
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: him some time to get acclimated. I will say one

926
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: thing that there is concern of is the defense. Like

927
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: we thought this was, you know, with Giannis and Lopez,

928
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: we thought that was gonna be like, you know, the

929
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: best rent protecting do in the league, and they are

930
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: near the bottom at that that's a concern. There's no

931
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: concern with Giannis. I don't think like he's been going

932
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: fucking crazy right, like he's doing his job. But I

933
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Speaker 3: would say I'm not concerned about Dame, but I am

934
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Speaker 3: concerned about the defense.

935
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definite concern about defense. But I think it just

936
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: takes time, bro, It just takes time for them to

937
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: get figure it out, you know. I mean preseason games

938
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: don't really tell the tall story, you know what I mean,

939
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: Like now these games really matter, people really playing, so

940
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Speaker 1: they're don't have to figure it out. But I think

941
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Speaker 1: they'll be more than fine when playoffs come.

942
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that, And I think it's worth

943
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: noting that the you know, specifically the dynamic of the

944
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 4: pick and roll is something that has to be worked

945
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: out in game, right like that that just it is

946
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: going to get better over the course of the season

947
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: when we have seen it run well, even back to

948
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: the preseason, it is a fucking terror. And that is

949
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Speaker 4: what the team is now constructed around, is that action.

950
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Speaker 4: So I think there's I'm not at all worried about

951
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: the bucks yet, I think as far as like the defense,

952
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: you know, that's the decision your team consciously made was

953
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Speaker 4: to emphasize better, more reliable half court offense for the

954
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: playoffs over half court defense. And I've had this actually

955
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Speaker 4: argument with with my best friend Ryan, who was like,

956
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Speaker 4: you know, he grew up when we grew up, so

957
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: defense championships like type mentality, And my argument was like,

958
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: I just disagree. I just think that a more reliable

959
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: half court offense in the playoffs right now, you just

960
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: would pick that over a really good perimeter defender in

961
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Speaker 4: the switch everything era. And so maybe I'm wrong and

962
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: maybe your GM is wrong, but that's the gamble your

963
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: team made, and so I would just like embrace the

964
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Speaker 4: fact that you're not going to be as good defensively,

965
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, like, that's that's the decision that

966
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Speaker 4: they made, that decision consciously to get worse defensively in

967
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Speaker 4: order to get better offensively, and I have a real

968
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: hard time. I mean, I think we all agree that

969
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: Nuggets were not as bad defensively as some of the

970
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: advanced analytics made it seem like they were. But the

971
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: Nuggets did not prioritize their defense in the construction of

972
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: that team. They got long guys who they knew they

973
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: could get to play hard in the playoffs. But like

974
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 4: you know, it's not about going and getting a defensive stopper.

975
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: A Dame is just more valuable in the playoffs in

976
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three than a Drew Holiday. That's just a

977
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: gamble that I would go along with as well.

978
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would say another thing that I would

979
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: legitimately be concerned about is coaching. Is Agent Griffin, you know,

980
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: and this is a concern before the season started. First

981
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: year coach, of course, you're gonna have concerns about that

982
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: off rip. But you know, after that Terry Stotts incident

983
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: where you know, you got the guy who knows how

984
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: to unlock game right, and and they just had that

985
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: falling out and they said that Terry stots just resigned

986
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 3: because he just didn't like the way that agent Griffin

987
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: was talking to him. And I'm like, bro, if you're

988
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a first year coach, you gotta have a

989
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: bit of a teachable spirit. You gotta be willing to,

990
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: you know, absorb some shit. You gotta know that you

991
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, you don't know everything

992
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: as a first year coach. So you know that fall

993
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: out with Terry Stotts that was concerning.

994
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: A bit for me there.

995
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Speaker 1: I do see how going from where they were defensively

996
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: last year or the years prior to now is jarring,

997
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

998
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: For sure, and you and you it is.

999
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: But it's gonna take time for two guys offensively, you know,

1000
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: to figure each other out that are so ball dominant,

1001
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: you feel me, And I'm just wondering, you know, like

1002
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: we'll see if that dipping defense defense will you know,

1003
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: pay off on the offensive side.

1004
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: And I think it will. I think most of us

1005
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: think it will, you know.

1006
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: Shout out to Matthew did no question, but he just

1007
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: recommended a couple of history pods followed Civilization, which he

1008
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: thought might have been what John was talking about with

1009
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: their three hour plus podcasts, and then also Tides of

1010
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: History is another history podcast. He recommends y'all listen to

1011
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: either of those no, I haven't heard of those. Okay,

1012
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 4: all right, worth checking out, and we've got two more questions.

1013
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: Mars says, I'm an educator and wanted to share some

1014
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: insight on your audiobook question. Exclamation point. I love people

1015
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 4: who say I want to give you some info with

1016
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 4: the exclamation point, because you know they're about to lay

1017
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: it down. My mom's a My mom's a PhD in

1018
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: educational philosophy. Her dissertation is on literature and reading's relationship

1019
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 4: to young black boys and the school to prison pipeline.

1020
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: One thing she found in her research was the parts

1021
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: of your brain stimulated and activated through reading are the

1022
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: same as the ones through audiobooks, so audiobooks and reading

1023
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 4: are equivalent. Stephen King randomly also got asked about this

1024
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: and said that reading listening to audiobooks is the same

1025
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 4: as reading. John your rebuttal, I don't think it's the same.

1026
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, it could be equivalent and in

1027
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: effect the same parts of the brain, but I think

1028
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: the experience is different, you know what I mean?

1029
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: And I think so.

1030
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a number of things that are probably

1031
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: equivalent that are very different as well. So it's just

1032
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: for me, it's just like when you look at the

1033
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: definition of reading, you know it involves actually reading words,

1034
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and you're not doing that

1035
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: when you're listening. So it's to me, it's just like

1036
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: if you tell me you read something and you listen

1037
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: to it. I'm just like, I don't understand that. You

1038
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: feel me that doesn't make sense. That's not reading, you know,

1039
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: in the in the literal definition of the word. So

1040
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I just like I said last part, I

1041
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck honestly, you know what I'm saying.

1042
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: I just think there needs to be a different designation

1043
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: for what you're doing because it's not reading. And it's

1044
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: great that it affects the brain the same way, but

1045
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I wonder how it affects other things, like you know,

1046
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: spelling and you know what I'm saying, and things like that.

1047
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: You know that that our benefit of reading a lot.

1048
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: You feel me.

1049
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: Phonic not neuroscigns. But I'm not exactly sure that that

1050
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 6: means that they're the same thing.

1051
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't mean they're the same meanings of the equivalent.

1052
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: So I know a lot of things affect like getting

1053
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 6: a hot effects that your brain the same way.

1054
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: That like getting a like on Instagram, does one hehealthy

1055
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: and one is healthy?

1056
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 6: Like the experience of.

1057
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: The same like eating chocolate affects the same parts of

1058
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: your brain and orgasm does or something like that.

1059
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: Right exactly, you know what I'm saying, the same way chocolate.

1060
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the motherfucker reasons.

1061
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: Boy.

1062
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: But I'm I'm not at all coming from this stance

1063
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: of like turning my nose up, you're not a real reader,

1064
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: Like I don't care about it that way. But I'll

1065
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: say for myself personally, like it wouldn't be the same

1066
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: to me because, like I mentioned before, rereading is so

1067
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 3: fundamental to reading to me, Like if I don't understand something,

1068
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: I reread it until it clicks. If I read some

1069
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: ship that blows mine mine, I reread it until it

1070
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: really really sinks in with me.

1071
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: There.

1072
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: So like rereading is just so vital to me in

1073
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: my reading experience that it's not the same for me.

1074
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: And I think reading generally, even the first time you

1075
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: read it, sits more to me than hearing it. You

1076
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's that depends. That's because of me,

1077
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: that everybody just the way my brain works when I

1078
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: read something, it sits. It's more stamped in my brain,

1079
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's more likely I remember

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00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: it long term than listening. Also, listening becomes passive at points,

1081
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: So listening to a book for that long it becomes

1082
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: background music, it becomes razz.

1083
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: You know what. Let's let's go let's uh, let's let's

1084
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: go full fucking dorky on this ship. Since we've do

1085
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: you think that reading a pictograph based language is the

1086
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: same as reading, Like if you're if you're a Egyptian,

1087
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 4: you're reading hieroglyphics. Do you would you consider that reading?

1088
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: You gotta read that like a wall, like, you know,

1089
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 3: that's kind of different than a though I mean they

1090
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: have I mean it's I mean, it's communicating stories through

1091
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

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00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: I would say it's closer to reading than audiobooks, even

1093
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: though it's not actual words.

1094
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's.

1095
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: More of a similar way of me gaining and understanding

1096
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: on something than just listening to it. I think, and

1097
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: I also think parts because how my brain works, that

1098
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: would sit with me longer because I'm a visual learner,

1099
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean than hearing something there's a

1100
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: threat to pull on there there's something there. There's something there,

1101
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: know that for real, for real, there's something there. We

1102
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: can talk about it.

1103
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: I did read a study when I was in college

1104
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: that I've never forgotten that reading and meditating basically do

1105
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: the same thing to your brain scan, which I think

1106
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: is really really interesting, that like there's a you know,

1107
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: your brain operates on three different levels or whatever, and

1108
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: that they sort of all condense into one level when

1109
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: you're reading or meditating. So like it is, and I

1110
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: would say that, you know, uh, neuroscience for sure, and

1111
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: I nothing like I think neuroscience the most fascinating thing

1112
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: human beings can do that is located on the planet.

1113
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 4: For me personally, the effect of listening to an audiobook

1114
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: does feel different than reading or meditating. So but I

1115
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: but I'm on the audiobooks are reading camp. So all right,

1116
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: last question. This is gonna make us all very happy.

1117
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 4: And I just want to say, so, this is a

1118
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 4: Smoky Leroy junior. You know, Homie of the pod, good good,

1119
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: front of the pod, Smokey. If you did not want

1120
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: any of the people mentioned in this email to hear

1121
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: this question, you should turn the podcast off at this point.

1122
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: But I'm assuming based on the fact that you put

1123
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: your name in it, that we are safe to identify

1124
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 4: you as the person who's asking this question. So I'm

1125
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: gonna posit it here and you have a chance to

1126
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: turn the podcast off if you did not want this

1127
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 4: to be heard by anyone else but Smoky Learoyd Junior says,

1128
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm proposing to my girlfriend soon. I know what I

1129
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 4: want to do, but but she wants is more important.

1130
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 4: She wants something simple and private. I know she's gonna

1131
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: say yes, but I just want it to be a

1132
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: moment she'll always remember. Any advice on how to do that.

1133
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: Well, firstrats, yeah, congrats to the homely smoking But yeah,

1134
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: I mean you nailed it.

1135
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: Bro. Give her what she wants. You know what I'm saying.

1136
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 5: It's her moment.

1137
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: You know you're you're soon to be fiance better than

1138
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: we do, so you know, I would say figure that out.

1139
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say the most thing, the best

1140
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: thing is just just be a genuine self. Like you know,

1141
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: if you're romantic, over the top guy, be romantic and

1142
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: over the top there. If that's not your thing, just

1143
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: you know, just be yourself. And I'm like the worst

1144
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 3: person to give fucking proposal advice to because I don't

1145
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: know if I ever told you all the story. Like

1146
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: me and Summer, we just kind of agreed to get married,

1147
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 3: right like because because the way shit workd I met Summer.

1148
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: You know a few months after I got out of

1149
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: relationship that that ended because I didn't want to get married.

1150
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: Like we just came to a fucking roadblock in she said, Okay,

1151
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: well I'm and you know it was understood.

1152
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: Be still cool. It's it's no bad blood or nothing.

1153
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: And you know, I was in line of the very

1154
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: first Genus and Jones episode of all time. We're tired

1155
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: of losing what was it, We're tired of losing good

1156
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 4: women to not wanting to get married.

1157
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just like just we just I think it

1158
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: was we you just you love them until they hate

1159
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: you or some shit like that. Yeah, it was just

1160
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: and so until they hate you, because right, And you know, yeah,

1161
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: And I was always I was always very upfront. I

1162
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: was never misleading like yeah, I'll get me, we'll get married.

1163
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 5: Sure I was.

1164
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: I was very upfront, like I just that's just not

1165
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 3: something I want to see. And when I started dating Summer,

1166
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: I told her that up top, and she was like,

1167
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: you know, that's never been something I was really interested

1168
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: in either.

1169
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, cool. And then one day she

1170
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 5: was like, you know, I think I want to get married.

1171
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 5: I was like you do.

1172
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: She's like yeah. I was like, okay, I do too.

1173
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: Let's fucking do it. You know what I'm saying that,

1174
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: And then we got married that next summer, you know

1175
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So yeah, yeah, So so I don't

1176
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 3: really I can't really be the guid that to tell

1177
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: you the fucking you know, romantic or you know, way

1178
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: to propose or whatever. But like I said, just just

1179
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: you know what your lady likes, and you know, just

1180
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: give her what she likes and be your genuine self

1181
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 3: in the process.

1182
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: And there's nothing else to add to that, you know

1183
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he spoke to the fact that

1184
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: she likes some private you feel me like, make sure

1185
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: it's that, but you know, in your way, make it special.

1186
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: So what's a YouTube video? There's got to be a

1187
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: video out there on it if.

1188
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: I told you all the story of me proposing the shower.

1189
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: He told me about the story.

1190
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: We went up to Lake Arrowhead and we had a

1191
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: nice fancy dinner and we were. I was. I proposed

1192
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 4: when I was twenty one, so we were on some

1193
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: real I can imagine we were on some real little

1194
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 4: kid shit, you know what I mean.

1195
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: With the type of pressure gonna put yourself at twenty

1196
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: one for oh whelming, bro, the overwhelming amount of pressure

1197
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: I put on myself.

1198
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 4: It was. It was insane. I was just like shitting

1199
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 4: myself for like.

1200
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: A it had to be perfect, you know what I mean.

1201
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 4: My family like, do not do that, because we had

1202
00:54:53,960 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: not one successful marriage in my entire family on either side, like, yeah,

1203
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 4: we really love Shar, she's the best, but you should

1204
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: not get married maybe ever, but definitely.

1205
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: Not this you the way to stay together forever and

1206
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: never get married. They're getting right there.

1207
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: And of course you're twenty one. You know your family's

1208
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: telling that. You're like, yeah, the difference is I'm not you,

1209
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I give my mom

1210
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 4: shit about that all the time, though, you know what

1211
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just like, what's up? You know we

1212
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: beat your pr already, you know what I mean. Anyway,

1213
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: we went up to Lake Arrowhead. We had a fancy

1214
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: dinner Shar. I have surprised Shar with a gift or

1215
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 4: an action perhaps three or four times in the twenty

1216
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 4: however many years that we have been together. She is

1217
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: smarter than me. She notices me noticing things, you know

1218
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: what I mean, She just and it's not like she's

1219
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: not mean about it, but like I'm not gonna get

1220
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 4: one over on her. Ever, So she'd known since probably

1221
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: thirty seconds after I decided I was going to propose

1222
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: that I was going to propose. Wow, So she was

1223
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 4: just like she was busting my balls the whole night,

1224
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: Like I was trying to make sure everything was you know,

1225
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: like perfect, like you know, like you're talking about she

1226
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: she was just like, you know, she just had this

1227
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: like look on her face, and you know. So then

1228
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: we're like, okay, we go out for a walk under

1229
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: the moonlight by the lake, right and I'm going to

1230
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 4: like go down on one knee and propose and all

1231
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: this shit. And I farted. I farted so hard, bro,

1232
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 4: Like I farted.

1233
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 2: I forget that part.

1234
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 4: Like we were walking and like I had been so nervous.

1235
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: I was not yet a fiber pill convert, you know

1236
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 4: what I mean, And I just like I ripped like

1237
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: the loudest part, and I obviously like totally lost my cool.

1238
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, my fucking like, I can't

1239
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: believe I did this, and Shar is going you fart

1240
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 4: all the time? What's the problem? Like, why are you

1241
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 4: so worried about? Bro?

1242
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: That is so funny and that made this so you

1243
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: and also made it more special, oh for sure. And

1244
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a microcosm for marriage.

1245
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 4: Yes, because at the time, I truly was mortified, like,

1246
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 4: oh no, I've ruined it, you know what I mean.

1247
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 4: And so that's like one of our favorites. It's like,

1248
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 4: what truly one of my favorite stories about the two

1249
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 4: of us. This is just like I was trying to

1250
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: be like put put something truly special on and Shar

1251
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 4: just wanted to like laugh with me and bust my

1252
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: balls and like we're just having fun, you know what

1253
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: I mean. So it's not advice, but that's what happened

1254
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: to me. It's shit.

1255
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: It seems overwhelming in the moment, you know what I mean.

1256
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: I think, like you you talk about these things and

1257
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: in the future is always I don't know. I just

1258
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: think those things make it more special for sure.

1259
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: All right, But congrats to you man, Thanks for being

1260
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: such a great friend and a fan. In friend of

1261
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 4: the show. Smokey is a I mean almost deserves from

1262
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: parts of the Jenkins and Jones Run an assistant social

1263
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: media producer credit because he's he's like he's.

1264
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 5: Done on the streets, like he shoots us so much

1265
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 5: ship that we discussed.

1266
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: Smoking and he's also like he's I feel like we've

1267
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: had announcements that like we didn't really like do it

1268
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: as a big announcement, and he like quote tweeted it

1269
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: and was like Jenkins and Jones is droppings, you know,

1270
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: like twice a week now or something, and then like

1271
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: we would retweet that and he would get like a

1272
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: bunch of people engaging off that because it didn't occur

1273
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: to us to just write the tweet anyway. Yeah, congrats

1274
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: to you and your your lovely soon to be fiance.

1275
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: Let us know it goes for sure, but congrats from

1276
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: your friends at Jenkins and Jones.

1277
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: Bro.

1278
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: That is all the time we got. We'll be back

1279
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: on Sunday with another or we'll be back on Monday.

1280
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, we be back on Monday morning with another

1281
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 4: regular episode. Sorry Jackson, and we'll see all then. Hope

1282
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 4: for the rest of your weekend goes good bye bye.

1283
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: Bye the volume