WEBVTT - Trump’s Lust for Kamala 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.760 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:05.080 rezon Choice Media. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.840 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 Y'all, this is episode thirty two of Native Lampid. We 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.440 are so happy to be here with you all today. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.160 We got a lot going on. I want to start 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.560 this episode by dropping something so exciting. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:25.120 We are going to be broad casting live all. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.240 Week next week at the Democratic National Convention. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.880 Tiffany and Day. What's going on beside one two. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:34.560 Ideas? 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.319 We are so so excited and threell we have some 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.520 incredible guests coming your way. It's the first time we'll 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.640 be streaming on YouTube live every single evening. Those episodes 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.640 will also drop the next day, and we'll also be 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.000 on with Breakfast Club Thursday morning and Friday morning recording 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.760 those shows Wednesday night and Thursday night from the DNC 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.000 for this historic convention. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.040 So I'm pumped, y'all. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:03.880 Yeah, let me chin it too, And that tiff is 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:04.840 going to deep just. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:07.759 I'm not into it. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.920 I'm We're going to get you into it. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.840 Well, we got about eight thousand recommendations from y'all, so 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.200 thank you, thank you for saying the pizza recommendations. But 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.319 I'm super I'm super excited about Chicago. We all know 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.040 that I like being in person with y'all together, so 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.160 I'm excited that we'll be together. But I'm just excited 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.000 about the direction the vibe. It's a vibe, so I'm happy. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.280 I just need to remember to bring my charges for 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.520 my clippers, since I have to clip my hair every day. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.720 I got you. Please let me try to shave. You 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.200 don't have any hair. All I have to do is 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:41.800 get it off. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.440 It shows up. I promise you see right now doing 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.680 this once a week. She catch me in the in 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.000 the between times, it. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.160 Sounded like Andrew is about to gard you to be word. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:55.080 That's all I want to say. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.280 Give me the giggle anywhere. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.040 Remember new she fell out the chair. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.600 She literally fell out. She's so crazy. But this is 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.240 what I do want to happen. If tips clipping your hair, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:08.919 I would like Andrew to do my ponytail. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.560 We've been trying to these Caroline, these Caroline vibes. That's 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:12.840 my need. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.960 I've been doing it for nine years. I don't know. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:15.880 It's so dope. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.640 Okay, So today, before we get to the convention next week, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.440 we have a lot to talk about, y'all. So I 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.760 my topic of choice is going to be Ron DeSantis' 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.000 version of Florida A and M University, which might mean 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.400 there may not be a Florida A University. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:32.640 So I want to talk about that. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.359 What y'all got I So I'm really first of all, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.200 I'm coming to y'all live all the way live from 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.360 It's a Vibe on the Vineyard. And so it's been 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.080 a lot of conversation around Donald Trump and his insults 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.840 to Vice President Harris and I want to get a 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.079 sense from y'all on how you think she should respond, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.480 if she should respond, and if she's not responding, who 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.000 should respond? Because I volunteered tribute, so I want to 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:01.560 get into that. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.720 I love that. I love that, and I did just 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:09.040 want to add to the conversation today by embracing this 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:15.000 really historic endorsement that the Harris Wall's ticket received this 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:19.000 week from the oldest and largest civil rights organization in 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.960 the Hispanic community, lou LAC. And I'll tell everybody what 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.679 lou Lac is and to challenge us to answer the 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.120 question of whether we think this first ever endorsement might 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.560 be a sign of some things to come when it 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:35.160 comes to the changing demographics of America and potential for 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:40.600 future political alliances to build black, brown other power. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:41.920 That's what we need. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.440 And so in addition to Tiff and these insults, I'm 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.560 speaking to someone who's just a walking and so Donald 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.640 Trump did an interview with Elon Musk. We will also 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.800 make sure we throw that in there, and all of 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.160 that will be topped off by our favorite part of 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.400 the show, which is hearing your questions or your comments 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.000 and getting into that as well. You know, it's not 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.840 a Native Lampot episode without hear from our NLP fan. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.480 So we cannot wait to hear from y'all. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.520 If y'all see my sister on the street, don't cuss 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.080 her out too much about this deep dish preacher. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:10.320 She is gonna try it next week. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.760 I've heard it from everybody. I heard from all y'all. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.680 I got it. I gotta try a deep dish. 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:17.960 We love it, okay, y'all. So we're gonna get into 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.000 this episode. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.400 So first up, we wanted to talk about all of 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.920 the many insults that are being hurled in Kamala Harris's direction. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.760 And then one of the critiques has been that she's 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.040 not doing enough interviews. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.520 Uh yeah, yeah. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.440 Do I want to talk about that before we talk 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.039 about the insult? 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.679 Yep? Absolutely so. Yeah. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.279 So they've been saying a lot that Kamala Harris is 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.279 m I A and they don't know why she's not 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.600 doing any interviews before her acceptance speech at the convention. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.760 I have some strong films about this. I want to 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.640 know what y'all think. Should she be doing interviews right now? 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.679 I want to hear what you one of your thoughts? 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.120 Okay, Well, my thoughts are that Kamala Harris is an 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.400 incredible speaker. We've seen it at this doing her some 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.599 speeches at all of the campaign rallies. I think that 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.360 there's an opportunity for her to really reset, and we've 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.479 not seen that since she became the top of the ticket. Right, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:17.080 she has energized the base. Voter registration is up in 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.520 most battleground states for Democrats, not for Republicans. It's actually 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.279 declining for Republicans per reporting. So if that all that 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:28.359 excitement exists, and you can have earned media covering you 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.040 without you paying for the advertisement, I just don't see 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:32.800 where you go wrong there. Of course, we've talked at 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.120 nauseum on this show about why I think she should 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.920 be doing conservative outlets. But I'm talking about all kinds 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.600 of outlets. Even Luke Campbell was smart enough to run 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.440 his thing back with Kamala Harris. I might do the 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.760 same thing he ran his interview back with her from 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.920 four years ago. Because people are just thirsting to hear 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.640 from her. So I think she cannot miss speaking to 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.320 people as she gets to her nomination speech. I don't 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.960 think she has to be cold until that moment. 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:56.680 What do y'all think? 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.000 Well, I so as a journalist, I'm never going to 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.240 advocate not talking to the press. So I do think 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.160 there is something different like earned media. Yes, by all means, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.440 because she's running a campaign, But I do think there 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.520 are some serious issues that need to be addressed and 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.080 that the American people would want to hear from her 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.680 about what's key for me. A lot of times when 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.560 people build, you know, this huge crowd, and this extends 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.760 from politics to entertainment and everything in between. I would 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.600 love for people to take that power and empower black 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.520 journalists at these different outlets. One, I think you get 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.560 a more thorough interview that is someone who is at 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.840 least familiar who's in the community and of the community, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.320 who can have an intellectual Q and a an intellectual 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.760 exchange of ideas and ideology. So I would love to 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.880 see her at this moment, tap into an Aaron Haynes 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.240 at the nineteenth and do an interview. Aaron has interviewed 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.159 her several times. Tap into a Joy Read at MSNBC, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.599 Tap into niche media, you know, sit down with Michael 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.279 Harriet at the Root and watch people lose their mind. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.000 They think the out way media has failed us. I 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.280 watched the interview with Dana Bash with jd Vance and 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.760 I was just baffled at the questions that she did 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.840 ask and the questions that she didn't ask, And I 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.240 just think it's a failure. No shade to her. I 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.520 worked with her twenty four years ago at CNN, but 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.040 it's just the way the mainstream media has failed us. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.120 So yeah, I would like to see her sit down. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.800 There are questions. I think people do have questions about 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.640 having a woman lead the country as a wartime president. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.080 There is a burseoning war with Iran that could break off. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.880 I'd want to hear her comments on that. I think 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.320 there are some defectors who still have concerns about Pala signed, 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.400 I'd want to hear her clear thoughts on that and 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.880 giving them in sound bites on the campaign speech. There's 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.600 not the opportunity for follow up. So it's not a 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.280 criticism of her that she hasn't done it, like we're 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.560 trying to win an election right now, But I do 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.360 look forward to her having a sit down, and I 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.360 think a sit down is better than a press conference. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.080 So I would definitely advise, if I had the ear 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.400 of her campaign, advise against the press conference, but a 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.840 sit down interview with a serious journalist, not an entertainer. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.480 Not You can do all those things, but you need 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.640 to sit across from a serious journalist to tackle some 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.280 of these weightier issues that you don't always get into 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.520 on the campaign trail. So I look forward to when 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.680 she does it on her time and her schedule, and 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.040 I hope she does it with someone in the community 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:19.880 and of the community. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.080 Andrew, what you think, I think, I think they've done 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.480 it perfectly. I think they've done it right. I think 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.720 it was important for her to get out there to 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.000 find herself before an audience. Listen, the landscape changed overnight 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.559 for her, really right, they were racing in one direction 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.280 as a supportive cast to Joe Biden, which she has 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.240 been and she is still the vice president. But but 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.640 but she was launched into this, and I got to 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.679 say she has shown up at least so far as 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.080 I can assess near perfectly, and her choices and the 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.160 way that she has handled things and the way that 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.400 she's adjusted in real time. I think on the stump, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.920 and I think, rather than to just to say, I 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.160 think sometimes the media have this superiority complex in the 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.040 sense that they are the ones to ask the questions 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.120 that are intuitive and that get to the heart of 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.440 what it is, when in truth, for most these folks, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.160 they are trying to get that moment that allows their 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.400 interview to go viral so that they become the superstar 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.560 within the network and the look two person and that 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.760 kind of thing. So there's a bit of self interest 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.720 here that I think deserves being acknowledged. I think she 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.559 will do it. She will do it in her timing, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.960 and I think Kamala Harrison needs to stay on her script, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:33.800 run this campaign from their campaign plan, and not allow 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.440 the voices. And I'm speaking and thinking particularly of those 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.520 on Fox who have made this a very central theme there. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.880 Why have they made this essential theme there that she's 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.320 running from the press, not talking to the press. Well, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.480 they are trying to suggest and see the idea that 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.120 the woman's not bright enough to sit in a room 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.160 with another bright person in exchange. Well, she isn't Donald Trump. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:10:00.320 We know he isn't enable and incapable of that. She, however, isn't. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.480 I think leave people wanting more rather than having had enough. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.000 And I think she's leaving a lot of people salivating 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.920 wanting more of her. And I think that beats the alternative, 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.640 which is we've had enough. I'm changing the channel. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.520 Well, so let me just push back. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.280 I'm just want to push back on this a little bit. Andrew, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:22.080 does your idea about her running a near perfect campaign 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:28.120 and having people salivate, salivating for more? Do you want 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.240 to think about the fact that it's eighty two days left? 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:32.000 Because can you? 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.720 That's all the more reason, all the more reason. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:36.040 Yeah. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.439 I think it creates some stimulus and people, some craving 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:45.679 in people. I think what ultimately will happen is there 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.040 will be this come down in a settling by all 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.160 of us. And I think that that's fine. But while 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.280 she has the wave and has the ability to expand 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.920 this campaign into states where we are right now not competitive. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.320 I will tell you it Isn't the American people out 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.440 there clamoring for her to do interviews. They're not. They 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:02.920 want to see her on rallies, they want to hear 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.560 on the stump, they want to hear the fight in 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.600 her voice, they want to see the eye roll, they 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.319 want they want it all. But they're not out here 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.000 clamoring for her to sit down with with with with 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:13.240 an interviewer. They're just not. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.000 Think are some folks who do want to hear because 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.400 now like, well, I don't just think it's an interviewer. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.520 I think there's one thing that Lenard said, and there's 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.319 John Carlpiece where he was talking about main character energy, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.000 talking about Joe Biden not having it, but Kamala has 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.680 all the main character energy, and it was It's interesting 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.440 because I do think, like I even maybe it's because 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.480 I do this stuff, but I'm like, I want to 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.679 see how she shows up now because it has witched, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.120 Like we know her in that main character energy, but 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.640 a lot of the country hasn't seen her in that way. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.440 So I kind of want her And then you know, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.560 there's also this, like you said, the nonsense is tip 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.680 with on Fox, where they've been saying like, oh, she 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.000 can't sit down. Oh and when she's when she's on 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.640 the fly, she stumbles. That's why Donald Trump wants to 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.440 challenge her. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:00.559 To three D and debates. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:01.120 I want to. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.800 I want her to prove them wrong because there are 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.520 some folks who are underestimating her. And I think in 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:12.079 this timeframe, which you can't have, is an underestimation become apathy. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.000 And I think it. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.600 Can easily turn into that if you're not I know 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.000 what you're saying about the overexposure for candidates normally, but 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.040 in eighty two days. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:23.839 Is it really going Are you really gonna run the 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.960 risk of overexposure? I think you can't get something. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.600 Run what she is, what she's doing, and she's running 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.520 up the numbers of people who want to see her, 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.640 hear from her, maybe reward her with the presidency because 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.360 they are so energized by what they have seen from her. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.679 And I believe her superpower here is being underestimated and 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.360 then showing up and clearing up all the faces, clearing 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.560 it up completely. And the people who won't who won't 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.000 vibe with her. Aren't gonna vibe with her ever on 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.000 that level, they're just not. So I think, hey, play 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.880 with the people bringing you to the party, those who 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.000 looking like they're trying to wink and dance with you, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.880 like some of these folks we've seen out in Arizona 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.119 who have come out and said, we're Republicans, but we 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:10.040 we changed the republic. Because she's out there doing it 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.120 her way right now. Right. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.520 That's why tip Under weigh in about five minutes a guy, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.960 because everything y'all are saying is like, yes, yes, yes, Andrew, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.280 I think you're absolutely right. It is the Beltway press 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:23.959 who is pressed for her to do an interview. It 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.760 is not the constituents. All of us work in this space. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.600 You know, I've covered politics for twenty four years. Angela, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.520 you've worked in politics. Andrew, you are a politician, you know, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.240 So we have a different I think lens. I know 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.440 you're you're a man of the people, so we're all 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.760 people are the people, but we have a different lens 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.880 into it. So it's like, yeah, I get Angela's point, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.320 like I want them to prove her wrong. I don't 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.760 really care if she proves Fox News wrong or not. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.800 Like they are, they've already been proven wrong. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:49.079 You know. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.280 For me, I think it's just an opportunity for her 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.320 to answer some weightier questions. So I get your point, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.880 Andrew about the overexposure. But I get your point Angela, like, no, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.600 go out there and throw a punch and show them 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.480 that you can do it. My complaint is, I guess, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.520 more to your point, Andrew, the interviewer themselves, who want 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.760 this viral moment, who would rather fail the country, and 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.599 you know, just to do you know, both sides politics, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.200 And I just wanted to complain about what I'm saying. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:21.920 With that interview on CNN with jd Vance, I just 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.000 felt like it was such a missed opportunity. They spent 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.760 so much time talking about Walls's military service, and there 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.640 was no question about Donald Trump's lack of military service. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.920 There was no reference to cadet bone spurs saying he 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.960 couldn't serve. There was no reference to the comments that 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.120 he reportedly made about veterans. There was no reference to 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.280 the policy he instituted that was harmful to veterans. And 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:48.280 they're doing this like gossip type interview. And she one 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.200 of the questions that she posed to jd Vance is, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.080 did he think Kamala Harris was black? Who gives a 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.640 good god dang if you think Tama. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.480 Harris was right? 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.760 Exactly a disrespectable question. You don't get to tell black 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.920 people who was black or not. It is so out 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.320 of pocket to even ask the question. And so at 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.760 that point, I'm looking like, to me, at that point, 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.160 Dana Bash looked like one of them. You know, it 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.200 was like, what a missed opportunity before the American people. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.280 It could have been a fruitful interview. And that's what 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.000 I'm saying. I don't think that was her intention. I 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.840 think she wanted to do a good interview. But that 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.600 is the difference between someone asking a question who centers 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.240 the comfort of white people. It's more specifically the comfort 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.320 of conservative white people, and everything you do is from 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.360 that prism, it's from that friend that and so the people, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.240 the American people are like, we don't give a damn 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:34.560 about her. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.520 I'm not even talking about that. You actually named three 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.960 journalists who we're biased. They are friends, but we act 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.720 they're absolutely top notch. Cream Krimdalla Crim like cream of 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.600 the crop. They are amazing. And you talked about Aaron Haynes, 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.000 you talked about Michael Harriet, you talked. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.920 About Joy Reed. Joy was the person who walked into 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.320 did the walk and talk. Was Kamala Harris rolling out 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.080 her twenty twenty campaign. This is the perfect time. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.720 For her to come back and say, hey, Joy read, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.360 let me tell you what's been going on since the 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.440 last time we got together and did a walk and talk. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.680 So I don't think she has to go and do 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.440 the mainstream interview that earned media piece their way. She can, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.640 to interest point do it her way, and I think 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.240 part of that is saying, hey, let let us show 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.680 you what real interviews look like. Let us show you 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.240 the type of profile piece that should and could be done. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.920 She also should be going on these morning shows that 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.520 reach the flyover state. She should be going on I 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.000 still think Fox, because it's not just a Fox News platform. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.720 There are tons of viewers. They are beating ceing It 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.560 and EMHISIPC and over fist right now with viewers. She 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.480 still has to convert some folks and add to her base. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.960 That's how you win an election. With the electoral College 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.040 and tail it's abolished. We got a mini pod coming 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:58.840 up on that one days. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.320 Everybody talking body. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.400 I just want to say, I got a little bit 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.640 of push back on that, but we got to go 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.600 to a break. Yeah, let's go to a breaker. We'll 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:13.960 pick it up on the other side. Well come, well, come, well, come, well, come, 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:14.920 well come, welcome. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.840 So we are back, y'all. Y'all can tell we're way 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.160 too excited about all this because we were talking over 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.160 each other trying to get it in. I just want 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.520 to say, answer Fox News, I was with you on that, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.240 and again I'm with you still, so long as she 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.080 does it to the point of her benefit, use it, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.040 use this escape. Understand exactly what they're going to do 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.800 to you know what moment they are looking for, but 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.520 also be very clear about the moment you're looking for, yes, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.280 and then drive it to that end. Because I think 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.920 that's what Donald Trump did with the black press. I'll 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.720 call the nigga a nigga in their face. He did, 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:52.720 and that and that excuse the language. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.280 I didn't like that at all. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:55.680 I didn't. 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.720 I didn't like it either, but I think what would 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.879 have been incredible tip and like to your point of 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.040 who were advising her campaign, we had to be like, Okay, 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.000 he went to nabj you couldn't go to NABJ sit 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.080 down with a panel of black journalists on your time 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.640 at the at the VP's residence. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.600 You know what I mean, like, answer it right. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.200 Away, show him how it should have been done, show 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.680 him what presidential looks like. I think that would have 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.399 been incredible. I also think to Andrew's point, you know 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.120 what they're going to say. I wish that we could 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.400 have done our sparring episode, but Tip is too cool 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:24.720 to be in character with me. 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.560 We're doing it, You're gonna do it. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.080 But the thing is, like, show her we can do 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.920 a sparring round with a fake a foe of Fox 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.480 interviewer and show her what some of those answers should 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:35.840 look like. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:36.600 I think that it was. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.080 I think we can have it both ways. Yeah, I 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.000 think we have it both ways. I think we're doing both. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:43.960 I think she's doing them both. 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:44.400 Yeah. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.440 And when and when I say sit down with a 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.280