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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with I our radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome christ Souls to the almost famous OG podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm already live.

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Speaker 2: We are live. That's what happened. Yeah, you know you're

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Speaker 2: an od when you're like, wait, is this scene working?

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Speaker 1: I have the camera facing front words or outwards.

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Speaker 2: No, you're great, You're great. It really truly has been

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Speaker 2: so long. I feel like it was when Lauren and

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Speaker 2: Ben were together and all three of you came. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anyone else was with you, but the three

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Speaker 2: of you came to the house, and Blakesley, my daughter,

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Speaker 2: was like just in awe of Lauren showing her all

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Speaker 2: her stuffed animals. I don't know if you remember that,

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Speaker 2: Yes I do. So how is life good?

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Speaker 1: Good? Yeah, just busy. We're in harvest season, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of irons in the fire, but

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Speaker 1: doing well.

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Speaker 2: I bet are you in is it Iowa?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you just went back to farming like.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Have they ever asked you to be

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Speaker 2: on that farmer show?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they have. I mean they were sort

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Speaker 1: of reached out, I think, and I noticed it in

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Speaker 1: my DMS. They reached out just to have me go

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Speaker 1: through casting or something. But no, I not exactly, but

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Speaker 1: I've been Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No more of that, no more reality shows.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I'm not super motivated to. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's all right, I'm doing good. Real life is all right.

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Speaker 1: It's tough enough.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, like stuff, you're so right, Yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 2: I think we're the same, you know, like we've been

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Speaker 2: asked over the years, you know, to do reality shows,

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Speaker 2: and we're like, yeah, you know, we're good, We're good.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna yeah, we'll do a podcast every now

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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 1: But right, it's a little more palatable. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, No, I'm my life is like a reality

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Speaker 1: television show in itself, I think some days so I

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Speaker 1: have I'm yeah, but keeping the wheels on the bus

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Speaker 1: with everything that I've got going on is yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 2: So okay, so the big question are you dating? Are

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Speaker 2: you single?

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Speaker 1: I am single?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely single.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely single. You know, of course, I'm always

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Speaker 1: looking to not be single in due time. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a God's plan, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I've been going through a lot of transitional things

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Speaker 1: that with with work and with business and I've been

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Speaker 1: focusing a lot on that, you know currently, and but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm always the goal is not to be single for

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life, so hopefully what can make

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Speaker 1: that happen sooner.

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Speaker 2: Than you're Oh? I mean, like you said, God's plan,

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Speaker 2: and I believe everything happens for a reason. It'll happen

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Speaker 2: when it's supposed to, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: Good. I love hearing that. Okay, So we share something

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Speaker 2: else besides The Bachelor in common Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 2: And have you been watching this season, because we've been

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Speaker 2: recapping every week, so I'd love to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on that if you're up for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was able to watch last night. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little behind, but I was able to watch last night.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, boy, I'm impressed. Right, so many good dancers,

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Speaker 2: So, yes, I love it this season. I have taken

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Speaker 2: to say, I really, true, really believe this is such

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Speaker 2: a talented cast. I don't know how they're gonna cut

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Speaker 2: it down. I mean, obviously they have, like, yeah, like

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Speaker 2: but I would hate to be a judge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I agree, it's fun to It was

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Speaker 2: So are you still in touch with Whitney?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I mean we we stay in touch

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Speaker 1: via social media and I mean, and I hope you know,

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Speaker 1: So love her to death. We don't we don't talk

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Speaker 1: But I'd love her to death like a little sister.

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Speaker 2: That I love her. I think she is. She's one

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Speaker 2: of my all time like favorite pros. Her and Jenna

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Speaker 2: who's with Joey. I just they are just so much

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Speaker 2: fun to watch, and she is looking so breaking hot

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Speaker 2: right now. It is like the body after baby. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, like it is amazing to me. She she

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Speaker 2: definitely is. I just love watching her. Would you go

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Speaker 2: back on the show if they asked you to do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would. My mind would do it in the heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what my body would say about it,

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Speaker 1: but I would be in might answer and the corner

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Speaker 1: I'd be looking more like oh probably with looking like

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Speaker 1: a different version of myself, but I've got old football

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Speaker 1: player injuries. They're starting to creep up on me. But

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Speaker 1: believing things. But yeah, now I would. That was one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest experiences I've ever had being on that.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I love that.

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Speaker 1: What did you do?

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Speaker 2: Where did you finish?

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Speaker 1: I think sixth or fifth? Fifth? I was above five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I remember because it was twelve and I was. I

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Speaker 1: was the fifth. Robert Herszebk finished right behind me.

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Speaker 2: I have always said that I finished sixth because on

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Speaker 2: our show there were only six people and I was

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Speaker 1: There were only six on your there.

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Speaker 2: Were only six of us.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it was the first season, so you know, they

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Speaker 2: they didn't know if it was going to be something

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Speaker 2: it was overseas it was very popular, which is where

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Speaker 2: So I almost tied you.

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Speaker 1: He did you basically? You did? That's I had no

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, such an icon.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, thank you, You're very sweet. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I got a call from Andrea Wong, who was

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Speaker 2: get a call from Andrea Wong, you listen and you

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Speaker 2: say yes, ma'am, you know I mean, and so I

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Speaker 2: to know. Of course, she explained it, yes, but I

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Speaker 2: was just kind of like, okay, whatever. Like at that point,

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Speaker 2: little about ballroom dancing, and I just thought, okay, wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean I love to dance, but let's see how

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Speaker 2: this goes. So I'm just glad they are still on

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Speaker 2: the air. It's just crazy to me that it has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's doing really well still. I mean

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Speaker 1: like it's gonna it's like the all time most watched

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Speaker 2: I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't take don't quote me on that, but it's

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Speaker 1: very one of the longest running. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: I say it out loud?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hannah, can you google that? Is it the longest running?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the longest running because The Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Or maybe the most part I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but you're right, Like, if it's international, then yes,

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Speaker 2: you very well. Like I think they called it, what

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Speaker 2: simply ballroom maybe or oh Hannah, Hannah is good at

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Speaker 2: this stuff. When I asked her a question, she's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: So if they do have an all star season and

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Speaker 1: Would be have to be Whitney if if she was

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, Yes, yeah I love that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: So there was nothing sensual about the way I was

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Speaker 2: Oh right, oh yeah, I think all of us have that. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: my daughter's trying to call all of us have that

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Speaker 1: Please don't forget your step, don't forget your music, and

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Speaker 1: I my biggest struggle was I've never really done anything

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Speaker 2: No, I totally understand that. It's like it's like a

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Speaker 2: it's it's not easy. It is not easy. And then

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Speaker 2: and the people who are in the audience like staring

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Speaker 2: Thank you, good luck with harvest. Yes, thank you if

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Speaker 1: We need all the luck we can get. We need

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