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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast, Happy Iowa Caucus Monday.

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you, Tutor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, as you heard, I'm super curious about tonight.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all eyes are going to be on Iowa.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting night because we are

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Speaker 1: experiencing whether we don't normally see for an Iowa caucus.

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Speaker 1: So how to from the RNC perspective, just to really

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Speaker 1: quickly go through that, because I know as a candidate myself,

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Speaker 1: everybody was worried, is it going to be cold, is

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Speaker 1: it going to rain, what's it going to be like

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Speaker 1: on election day? Will just keep people home?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Iowans are used to the snow. As

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Speaker 3: you know, you're from Michigan, I'm from Ohio. We've seen

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Speaker 3: a bit of snow in our lives and so I

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Speaker 2: But the one thing.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting about Iowa, and as we talk about obviously

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Speaker 3: the difference between caucuses and primaries, is as we talk

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Speaker 3: about that caucus process, people in Iowa have to be

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Speaker 3: you cannot participate. So people who are worried about the

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Speaker 3: snow need to leave a little bit earlier tonight to

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Speaker 1: You have to get in at seven Who can do this?

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Speaker 1: Is it anyone? I mean, how do you know you

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Speaker 3: So this is again a very grassroots centric election process,

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Speaker 3: very different than the primaries.

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Speaker 2: It's one night only.

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Speaker 3: It's not something that like in other states where you know,

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Speaker 3: so at seven pm tonight, all across the state, all

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Speaker 3: ninety nine counties, grassroot centric, very local people are in Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Iowans can participate and they go in and

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Speaker 3: they caucus for their candidate and then at the end

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Speaker 1: So everybody is in one room. From what I understand, right,

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Speaker 1: you all come in and then you stand in certain

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so people will be making pitches for the

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Speaker 3: And then ultimately people will move around the room until

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Speaker 1: So if you go in there, you have a chance

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Speaker 3: So they'll be they'll be you know a little bit

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Speaker 3: very very different than what we see in Ohio, Michigan

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Speaker 1: How do you decide the winner in this case?

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Speaker 2: Just simple majority and.

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Speaker 1: That's by count or.

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Speaker 2: Yet they'll count, they'll count them in each location.

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Speaker 1: And does that fall on the RNC.

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Speaker 2: Then no, we don't. We don't do the count.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so how did that's a state? The state does that?

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Speaker 1: Or correct?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, because I know in Michigan and we're

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Speaker 1: looking at an interesting year this year because we have

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Speaker 1: what exactly does this mean? I know Iowa is different.

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Speaker 1: What is the role of the rn C in something

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Speaker 2: So we're neutral when it comes to the caucuses.

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Speaker 3: We obviously have an endorse to candidate We've kept this fair,

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Speaker 3: transparent primary process, very different than what we've seen the

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Speaker 3: something that was very important for us to set the

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Speaker 3: So we're just getting one step closer ultimately to having

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Speaker 3: our nominee. We're very excited for Iowa, We're excited for

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Speaker 2: Like why did we lose? Why? Why you know did

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Speaker 3: How can we win in twenty four, and that's what

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Speaker 3: And then, of course, our Bank your Vote Early Voting

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Speaker 1: What messages do you hear out there that you see

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that we're talking to

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Speaker 3: I've never been a big proponent or fan of the

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Speaker 3: changes in early voting that we've seen over the last decade.

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Speaker 3: I personally have had it this way, But the reality is,

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Speaker 3: Democrats are playing, we will lose this November. So until

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Speaker 3: each state goes and changes, and if they go and

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Speaker 3: voting or we'll lose We've seen races like twenty two.

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Speaker 3: For example, in many of these Congression races, I was

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Speaker 3: the Ohio nominee in the thirteenth Congression District, the Republican nominee,

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Speaker 3: and it was a very heated, targeted race, but we

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Speaker 3: lost that early vote. Many other races across the country

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Speaker 3: And what people don't realize is this isn't just for

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Speaker 2: It's all a numbers game.

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Speaker 3: And so when you, as a hardcore Republican vote on

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Speaker 3: day one in your state, we might spend five dollars

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Speaker 3: as a national party chasing your ballot. If you wait

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Speaker 1: Who don't know there are people who vote. When you

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Speaker 1: something I want to talk to you about as well,

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Speaker 1: because you talked about this early voting and changes and

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Speaker 1: think a lot of folks, especially folks that are anew

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Speaker 1: they're like, well, why can't we just change it? Well,

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Speaker 1: the party doesn't make that choice, The RNC doesn't make

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Speaker 1: And that's where I want to make sure everyone who

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Speaker 3: That's right, one hundred percent. And many people don't realize

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Speaker 3: how things have changed. And that's why I continue to

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Speaker 3: encourage people and have for many years, to pay attention

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Speaker 3: this changes. This isn't all federal stuff. Much of this

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Speaker 2: That's all going to have to change in those states.

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Speaker 3: And so one of the things that I think is

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Speaker 3: really important when you talk about our Bank your Vote

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Speaker 3: we and now post the New Year, have state specific

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Speaker 3: and the referendum on abortion that is a state thing.

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Speaker 3: There's many also legal reasons on some of the referendums

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Speaker 3: that the national party doesn't get involved, But we obviously

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Speaker 3: have state parties for a reason, and state parties work

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Speaker 3: on those state races.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know for a fact that Chairwoman McDaniel wasn't touched

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Speaker 3: with Virginia and you know, trying to be involved there.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing.

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Speaker 3: That even if it was a federal race that I

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Speaker 3: always try to remind people is that a national party

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Speaker 3: doesn't control the campaign so we can give them the

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Speaker 3: best advice and tell them everything.

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Speaker 2: That we would think they should do.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, the campaigns make

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Speaker 3: the decisions on where their money gets sent. So our

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Speaker 3: responsibility again is to build that infrastructure, to build the

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Speaker 3: road that the candidates drive on to get out the vote.

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Speaker 3: But the messaging and the actual individual ads coming from

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Speaker 3: the campaigns come directly from the campaigns. We don't have

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Speaker 3: control or anything over that. All we can do is

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Speaker 3: give advice on that front. Abortion has been a big

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Speaker 3: issue and I think one of the things that really

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Speaker 3: hurt candidates in twenty twenty two. On that issue is

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Speaker 3: for so many years Republicans and Conservatives fought on the

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Speaker 3: issue of abortion, fought to overturn Row, but then when

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Speaker 3: Roe was overturned, a lot of people felt that many

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Speaker 3: Republicans ran under the table or got pushed into the

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Speaker 3: corner and instead of standing on the strong messaging, instead

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Speaker 3: of standing on the side which I believe, we're on

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Speaker 3: the side of compassion on this issue, we're on the

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Speaker 3: side of life, We're on the right side.

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Speaker 2: Of the issue.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately we allowed Democrats to define us in so

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Speaker 3: many ways on that issue. And I think that's even

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Speaker 3: what you saw with fundraising on the referendum in Ohio. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the conservative side lost that recently and they were out

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Speaker 3: fundraised two to one and three to one in the

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Speaker 3: final weeks they were outspent.

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Speaker 2: So these are the things you have to be looking

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Speaker 2: at again.

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Speaker 3: Resources do matter, Decisions from individual campaigns also do matter.

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Speaker 3: And then, of course we can't be playing everywhere and

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Speaker 3: expect to win. So our focus is on those federal elections,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't mean we don't care about the state

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Speaker 3: ones and don't want to see us win everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon. So when it comes to fundraising, because

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Speaker 1: I think that's something key in the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we were out fundraised by Democrats, but we're seeing

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Speaker 1: that across the board. What is the message to our

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Speaker 1: donors right now? Because even when I talk to people

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Speaker 1: in the state of Michigan, people have been very supportive

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Speaker 1: of Republicans. People have been very supportive of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 1: They're like, gosh, you know, I mean, do I want

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Speaker 1: to put my money there. I don't even think we

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Speaker 1: can win. And so you talk about that misinformation and

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Speaker 1: that message going out, and I think that's what Democrats love.

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Speaker 1: They love to see us arguing. They love to see

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Speaker 1: us saying, oh, we don't like our own organizations, and

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Speaker 1: then that kind of spreads through CNN and MSNBC and

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Speaker 1: even our friendly news media will say, gosh, you know,

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Speaker 1: people are really torn. That scares people away and then

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Speaker 1: kind of exacerbates that problem of bringing money in. But

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Speaker 1: it is really help people all the time. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: as much as you hate the idea on the grassroots

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Speaker 1: side of having to use money, the Dems are hitting us,

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Speaker 1: but technology they're hitting us with ads are these are

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Speaker 1: things that you just have to have money. But even

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Speaker 1: if you're on the grassroots side of it, you want

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Speaker 1: to be able to have the information in your hands

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Speaker 1: that you can hand out. Y'all want to be able

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Speaker 1: to print flyers, you want to be able to have

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Speaker 1: yard signs. So how do we re engage our donors

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Speaker 1: this year and say this race is so critical and

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Speaker 1: it only happens with all of you recognizing that all

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Speaker 1: of these organizations are working in tandem to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we are winning. We are walking home with the

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Speaker 1: w That's right.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats absolutely love to see it. There's nothing more

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Speaker 3: important than unity. We need Republican unity. When we saw

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Speaker 3: a lot of chaos in Washington, as I traveled across

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Speaker 3: the country, what I heard continually from investors in the

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Speaker 3: party as well as grassroots activists pretty much everybody is

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Speaker 3: we want to see Republicans unite.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats have done this so.

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Speaker 3: Well time and time again, in which they fight like

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Speaker 3: cats and dogs behind closed doors. They really don't even

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Speaker 3: like each other. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: they come out, they come out united and they get

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Speaker 3: it done. And that's what Republicans need to do better

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Speaker 3: than ever before in twenty twenty four. We cannot allow

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Speaker 3: perfection to be the enemy of good. And that's what

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Speaker 3: this comes down to. If we as Republicans only agree

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Speaker 3: twenty percent of the time, let's work on that twenty

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Speaker 3: percent of things. Let's get across the finish line there.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to what's the message to donors, invest

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Speaker 3: in the party, invest in these races. It is so

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Speaker 3: critically important that we not only unite, but that we're

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Speaker 3: funding our candidates, that we're funding our party to be

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Speaker 3: able to do what needs to be done to win.

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Speaker 3: We all recognize the alternative, which is more Democrat lack

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Speaker 3: of leadership in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: But we can't afford that.

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Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, even if we do

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Speaker 3: win next November and we win the White House and

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Speaker 3: we win the Senate, we win the House, it's still

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Speaker 3: going to take time to reverse what the Democrats have done.

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Speaker 3: It's not an overnight, perfect solution. So the last thing

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Speaker 3: we can afford is to lose and wait another four years.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where our country would be at that point,

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Speaker 3: and I certainly would not be happy with where it

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Speaker 3: is I know you feel the same. In many others

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Speaker 3: across the country feel the same. So we want to

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Speaker 3: see winning in November across the board, up and down

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Speaker 3: the ticket, from local to state to federal elections, and

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Speaker 3: then we want to hit the ground running in January

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Speaker 3: of twenty five and make sure that we get things

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Speaker 3: done for the American people, because that's what really matters.

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Speaker 3: We want to see people's lives get better. As Republicans,

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Speaker 3: we're the party of eternal optimism. We're the party of

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Speaker 3: common sense solutions. We're the party that's going to fix

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Speaker 3: the problems that the Democrats have caused and quite frankly

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Speaker 3: haven't cared about. It's really a shame what they've done

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Speaker 3: to this country.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really the most important thing to say

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Speaker 1: to Republicans out there. Whether you are grassroots or you've

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Speaker 1: been in the party, you know you're considered I guess

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Speaker 1: the establishment folks, you know whatever we're labeling people. I

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Speaker 1: think the most important thing is don't get impatient. Like

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Speaker 1: what you just said there is so key because if

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Speaker 1: you're watching, if you've really kind of pulled back the

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Speaker 1: layers of the onion up the Democrats and looked at

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Speaker 1: what they've done. They'll work for years to get their way,

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Speaker 1: and it's very sneaky and it's very under the radar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at twenty sixteen, I think that

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Speaker 1: they were like, how did we just get our butts

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Speaker 1: handed to us? They really were shocked by twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and it was genuine shock. I mean, you can just meet.

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Speaker 2: It was right along with them.

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Speaker 3: I remember I was with President Trump that night, and

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing.

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Speaker 2: The faces of all of the hosts.

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Speaker 3: On TV as the results were coming in, and something

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh one hundred percent. They were horrified, and it

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Speaker 1: was this moment that was kind of glorious, and I

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Speaker 1: think that Republicans sat back and said, wow, look we

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Speaker 1: did this, and it was truly I believe that twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen was very much a grassroots effort, very much bringing

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Speaker 1: in people who had gotten discouraged by voting and all

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Speaker 1: of that, and so there was something special there. But

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Speaker 1: if you look at what Democrats did since then, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I take the gubernatorial race in Michigan from twenty

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Speaker 1: four team to twenty eighteen, Democrats engaged eight hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: more voters, and I will have people say they made

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Speaker 1: up those votes. Those voters have consistently stayed in the system.

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Speaker 1: But they I can also point to they brought in organizations,

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Speaker 1: they brought in new media, they brought in all kinds

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Speaker 1: of things into the state of Michigan, and they did

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Speaker 1: it over many different states that they said, we can

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Speaker 1: infiltrate here and we can take this back because they

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Speaker 1: were so freaked out by what happened in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So instead of fighting, we have to You're right, we

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Speaker 1: have got to come together at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: The majority of us we may have different opinions on

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Speaker 1: certain issues, but we want to have a Republican over

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Speaker 1: a Democrat right every single time, to.

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Speaker 2: Say the least.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at it from that perspective and

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Speaker 1: say they have really they've created a machine in these

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Speaker 1: states that they want to win. We need to as

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Speaker 1: a party unite, bring the machines that we already have together,

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Speaker 1: take learn from them, and go out there and win.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, one hundred percent agree with you, not

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Speaker 3: even a question.

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Speaker 2: We have to win. We will not win if we're

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Speaker 2: not united again.

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Speaker 3: You may not absolutely love every position that every Republican holds,

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Speaker 3: but I guarantee you have more similarities and more in

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Speaker 3: common with the Republican candidates than you do with the

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Speaker 3: Democrats right now.

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Speaker 2: It's really astounding.

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Speaker 3: I think when you look back even to twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: and someone like Bernie Sanders, how radical his positions were

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Speaker 3: considered at that time. His positions have now become the

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Speaker 3: mainstream on some issues. The Democratic Party has gone farther

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Speaker 3: left than where he was on some of those. So

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Speaker 3: in such a short period of time, they've shifted so

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Speaker 3: radically left, and I don't think that aligns with the

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Speaker 3: majority of country. I don't think that aligns with the

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Speaker 3: majority of even their voters. So I think it's a

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Speaker 3: prime opportunity for us as Republicans to start talking to

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Speaker 3: these people who maybe have never had a conversation like

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Speaker 3: that with a Republican before, that have definitely never voted Republican.

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Speaker 3: And maybe in the first conversation you don't win their vote,

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Speaker 3: but you plant that seed that may ultimately cause them

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Speaker 3: to vote Republican in November or in the future, because

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Speaker 3: they don't like what they're seeing and they feel disenfranchised,

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Speaker 3: they feel forgotten by their own party. Some groups of

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Speaker 3: people voted for President Trump in twenty sixteen for that

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Speaker 3: exact reason they felt forgotten. You saw a lot of

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Speaker 3: manufacturing workers, even union workers, that voted for President Trump

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Speaker 3: as a result of feeling like finally they had someone

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Speaker 3: to listen to them. And I think as a Republican party,

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Speaker 3: that's something that's happening right now. And we've even seen

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Speaker 3: a shift in a lot of minority communities as a

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Speaker 3: result of that as well.

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Speaker 1: And I think you want people need to understand that

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Speaker 1: those voters that came. I think there was also kind

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Speaker 1: of this feeling of, oh, those are our voters now,

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Speaker 1: But I think in twenty eighteen we can be pretty

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Speaker 1: sure and twenty twenty and twenty twenty two we can

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Speaker 1: say that those voters only come out for President Trump.

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Speaker 1: But we want to make sure that they understand we're

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Speaker 1: all here for them. And so this fighting, this infighting,

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Speaker 1: it's not helping to bring those folks in to get

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Speaker 1: and those are really, as much as they are hyperpensity

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Speaker 1: voters for Donald Trump, we would consider them low propensity

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Speaker 1: voters across the board. So how do we make sure

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Speaker 1: that we are getting messaging that is making them want

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Speaker 1: to come out for Republicans and making them feel like home.

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Speaker 1: I think that what you said about don't let perfect

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Speaker 1: be the enemy of good is something key because we

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Speaker 1: are all humans. There is no perfection in any of

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Speaker 1: our organizations, on the Democrat side or the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: We got to get it. We got to be really

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Speaker 1: really good at it.

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Speaker 2: And there's not always perfection on the issues either.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you can look at what

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Speaker 3: the Democrats are doing and know they're on the wrong

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Speaker 3: side of history, and you can take that and you

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Speaker 3: can run with it. And so when you look at

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Speaker 3: the issues that matter the most of people and the

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Speaker 3: things that are impacting their lives day to day, whether

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Speaker 3: that be the economy, whether it be energy prices, whether

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Speaker 3: it be the border, whether it be the drug crisis,

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Speaker 3: opioid epidemic, obviously with fentanyl coming over the border right

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Speaker 3: now being a big thing. All of these things are

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Speaker 3: things that I think we can be talking about and

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Speaker 3: the right way to the right people all across the

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Speaker 3: country and winning. But it's about not only having that message,

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Speaker 3: which I do believe we're on the right side of

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Speaker 3: those issues. We have the policies that can make these

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Speaker 3: issues better, to make people's lives better. We have to

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Speaker 3: connect with the voters where they are. Young voters is

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Speaker 3: a good example of that. They're not getting their news

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Speaker 3: on Fox News or CNN anymore.

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Speaker 2: They're online.

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Speaker 3: I have a sister in her early twenties and she's

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Speaker 3: on TikTok and Instagram and that's where she gets her

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Speaker 3: news Twitter sometimes, and so these are the places we

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Speaker 3: need to be to connect with the youngest voting block.

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Speaker 3: So that type of stuff, looking at the data, making

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Speaker 3: to be in the same places, I think is very

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Speaker 3: important as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the Stanley Cups are probably the

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Speaker 1: best example of that. We're all talking about kids all

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Speaker 1: buying the Stanley cups and those water bottles. My husband

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Speaker 1: was telling me just last night that in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: I think their sales were seventy million, and in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two is over seven hundred millions. So that is

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Speaker 1: the power of social media. Folks got to be in

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Speaker 1: all of these places. But I so appreciate you being

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Speaker 1: here today, Madison Jesseoto Gilbert. You are the spokeswoman for

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Speaker 1: the RNCA. We appreciate having you. Thank you for having

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