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Speaker 1: Olaola Loka Morees. Welcome to another episode of Look At Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mala and I'm Theosa.

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Speaker 1: We're super excited to have in studio with us Jess Rubalcaba.

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Speaker 1: Jess is the head of production at Sassoon Studios LA

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Speaker 1: and the producer behind some of our favorite shows like

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Speaker 1: La Platica, Guru That Corner and Suelta la Lingua podcast. Jess,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Look at What our Radio.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's such an honor to be

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Speaker 3: here with you, ladies.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you guys are really the ogs of podcasting,

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Speaker 4: especially for Latina women. So the fact that you invited

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Speaker 4: me to join me for an episode is such a

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Speaker 4: big honor.

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for saying that. And one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons we wanted to have you on is because you

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Speaker 2: are so often behind the mic. You are producing incredible

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Speaker 2: shows that are super popular and big in the Latino

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Speaker 2: community and beyond, and so we just wanted to use

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Speaker 2: this time to get to know you and talk to

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Speaker 2: you as a producer, but also just get to know

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Speaker 2: you as a Latina working in podcasting as a local

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Speaker 2: to La. Right, yes, and just yeah and just talk,

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Speaker 2: just get to know you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks again.

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Speaker 1: How did you get your start? How did you start

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Speaker 1: podcast producing?

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Speaker 4: There's no short answer to that, I'd say, and honestly,

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Speaker 4: a lot of it has to do with just being

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Speaker 4: in the right place at the right time. I am lucky,

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Speaker 4: super lucky to have really creative friends and to have

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Speaker 4: really creative friends of friends, and so I really started.

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Speaker 4: This all began when I started my job at Methou,

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Speaker 4: which was back in I think twenty seventeen. I you know,

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Speaker 4: they needed someone to help create memes, and so.

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Speaker 3: I just started there.

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Speaker 4: My mom didn't really understand, but you know, it is

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Speaker 4: what it is. And then slowly but surely, my role

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Speaker 4: within the organization started shifting and changing, and I eventually

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Speaker 4: became the director of content at one point. But then

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Speaker 4: when I got there, I realized that it took away

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Speaker 4: a lot of the creativity that I really enjoyed. And

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Speaker 4: fortunately at that company there was super flexible and really

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Speaker 4: encouraging and helping me figure out what it is that

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Speaker 4: up in production, and so I fell in love with

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Speaker 4: seeing an idea that you have kind of come to life,

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Speaker 4: and then from them posting it and it's nerve wracking,

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Speaker 4: and then people reacting to it, and especially like it's

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Speaker 4: very rewarding when you see that people are actually enjoying it.

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Speaker 4: So after that, there was a show that I was

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Speaker 4: working on towards the end of my career at the organization,

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Speaker 4: and then I got acquainted with Sevas and Robert, who's

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Speaker 4: whose manager and he's the one that heads up all

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Speaker 4: of Sasoon's studios LA. He also has his own talent

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Speaker 4: agency called Rebel Management, and yeah, so I wanted to

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Speaker 4: and then that kind of also led into just kind

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Speaker 4: of again making that connection, them telling us telling me sorry,

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Speaker 4: them telling me what they envisioned and what they wanted

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Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, like, if you're serious about this,

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Speaker 4: And that was about two years ago almost. It was

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Speaker 4: towards the end of the summer that we kind of

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Speaker 4: of been learning on the go. So in podcasts directly,

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Speaker 4: it was kind of like a just diving headfirst into it.

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Speaker 4: And figuring it out, and yeah, it's been it's been

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Were you already a podcast listener?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What were some of the podcasts you were listening to

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Speaker 4: I have been a longtime fan of my favorite Murder.

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Speaker 4: Actually just bought tickets to go see them live too

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Speaker 4: in Pasadena later this year. And yours, of course, Malat.

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Speaker 4: I know you also have an independent one on your own.

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Speaker 4: When I was at me Through, we kind of tried

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Speaker 4: very much also like that was one that I spoke

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Speaker 3: I guess you could.

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Speaker 1: Say I love it. I love it, I mean True Crime.

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Speaker 1: I think really put podcasting on the map in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I'm wondering how you made the

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Speaker 1: transition creatively from creating memes working for an organization like

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Speaker 1: Methoo to now like crafting an identity for a podcast

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Speaker 1: and your creative process in bringing that show identity to life.

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Speaker 4: Well, Luckily for me, most of the show identity was

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Speaker 4: already established. There've been around for a very long time,

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Speaker 4: for me, it was also taking a look at like

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Speaker 4: was necessarily too difficult for me to relate to the

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Speaker 4: to hear from these guys that you know aren't And

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Speaker 4: I think, like, I'm so honored to work with them

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Speaker 4: because they're not your traditional especially like in Latino men.

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Speaker 4: They're not like Machi style or they're not like, oh

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of like what I take the lead

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Speaker 4: on and an inspiration for creating new things, right. Like

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite segments that we that we did

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Speaker 4: I saw a TikTok video about it, and then I

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Speaker 4: just kind of came up with a bunch of questions

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Speaker 3: So it's all again really.

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Speaker 4: Encouraging to to continue going down that path. So again,

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Speaker 4: like for that one specifically, the identity was already established,

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Speaker 4: and I think I just lend a different perspective coming

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Speaker 4: in as a woman, especially even sometimes I'll prepare an

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Speaker 4: to dive deep, like I want to know how do

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Speaker 4: you manage this, like in your relationships, Like let's talk

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Speaker 4: about this, but Rala, maa, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, hey, I'm here to support you and

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Speaker 4: however you need, however you want. So as long as

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Speaker 4: I try to create some things as well, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a balance right that even we as

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think it's it kind of it's a little bit

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Speaker 4: disconnecting when it's so structured that it's just like question answer,

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Speaker 4: question answered like you want, especially on la Platica, Like

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Speaker 4: the whole premise of the show is just a conversation,

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Speaker 4: Like that's when you get them, the guests, to really

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, lokamotives.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back with more of

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Speaker 1: our episode.

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Speaker 2: What is it about Laplatica that you feel resonates with

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Speaker 2: you're telling us something completely different. So I'm so curious,

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Speaker 4: I think the conversations that they bring to the table

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Speaker 4: And every time, like I have a conversation with them,

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Speaker 4: Like it's just yeah, I think there's something there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really curious also about the topics that you

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Speaker 1: specific episodes about particular topics. Are you guys like researching

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Speaker 1: coming organically like from you and from the hosts. How

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, I think it's really important to listen

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Speaker 4: there's just so much going on and it's directly impacting

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Speaker 4: Aware of the privilege and the platform that we have

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Speaker 4: and share information and everything, I think is always really important.

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Speaker 4: And then we have to also like look at timing

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Speaker 1: our smaller media creators maybe we have a little independence

437
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: from that and we can preserve some safety in the

438
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: media that we create.

439
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like those safe spaces are so needed

440
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: right now more than ever because yeah, like my parents

441
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 4: will be watching that every single ad break is like

442
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: my dad just starts cursy.

443
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: At the TV. He's like, I'm gonna say what he says.

444
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, but yeah, yeah.

445
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: I understand that's my mom like multiple times because he

446
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: listens to Klea all day, you know, and that's a

447
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 2: local LA radio station, So yeah, I understand completely. I

448
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: want to kind of shift the conversation about like podcasting

449
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: and producing with Sesson because y'all just launched a new

450
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: show called Through That Corner.

451
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: So I want to.

452
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: Ask you about that show and like how that came

453
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: to be and like your involvement in creating this show.

454
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 4: I was already working with the organization, and I think

455
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: this was just as Sesson, we decided that we wanted

456
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: to launch a podcast network and kind of create new shows.

457
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 4: And one of them like was, obviously, we're really big

458
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: fans of what Karen Eddie and Blessed do, Like they're

459
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: just comedy like every single time, and so we wanted

460
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 4: to people tap in when they have conversations, and we

461
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 4: wanted to be able to kind of create a new

462
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 4: space for them to be able to have different kinds

463
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: of conversations, you know. So I think the main concern

464
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: with them is how do we create something unique and

465
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: fun and that is still very much representative of who

466
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: they are as individuals. And yeah, the idea for kind

467
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: of they like they were like that we want to

468
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: just have fun and we kind of want to shoot

469
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 4: the shit, and we don't want it to be like

470
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 4: all the other podcasts where people just sit and talk.

471
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: Like sure, obviously, like there's gonna be an element of that,

472
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 4: but we want to have segments, and we talked about

473
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 4: shows we were inspired by, we talked about what the

474
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: creative approach could be, and so, yeah, little by little,

475
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: like kind of all started coming together and then the

476
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: set was built based on what they wanted to include

477
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 4: in it. Blessed is Nika Awen, so he wanted to

478
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: make sure that like there was some Nika culture in there.

479
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: And obviously Kate, Karen and Eddie are Mexican, so it's

480
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 4: very Mexican as well. And yeah, like it just kind

481
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: of happened naturally, I guess we again, we talked in

482
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: talking about like the shows that they were inspired by

483
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 4: and what we wanted to create for it. The whole

484
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: Impactante sixty nine segment came about, which is like watching

485
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: them in action is insane, Like they're able to tap

486
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: in and they're actors, you know what I mean, Like

487
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: when they put the wigs on and the way that

488
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: they are, like it's comedy. And to be able to

489
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: like help kind of put it together for them and

490
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: be another vessel for their creativity has been really fun.

491
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 4: And yeah, like I just I am so privileged that

492
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: I love being surrounded by such creative people that kind

493
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 4: of just like makes me want to be more creative

494
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, but how can we do this

495
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: and how can we do that? So so it's been

496
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: really fun. There's other segments and such that we're working on.

497
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: Like what it is right now isn't the final form

498
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 4: of it. It's just going to be kind of like

499
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 4: ever changing, ever flowing.

500
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's very.

501
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: Very directly and like they're very directly involved in what

502
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 4: they would want they want it to be, and the

503
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: vision that they have for it and the types of

504
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 4: conversations that they want to have on it. So so

505
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 4: it's been really fun collaborating with them and bringing their

506
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 4: visional life.

507
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: Nope, that's amazing. I love. I love. That's one of

508
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: the things I love about podcasting is like how you

509
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: can change the show, you know, from one episode to

510
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: the next.

511
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: You can.

512
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: It's never really in its final form. It's constantly evolving.

513
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts You kind of mentioned this

514
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: earlier of the industry being saturated, So what are your

515
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: thoughts on or what advice would you give to a

516
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: creative someone who wants to step into the podcasting space,

517
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: whether that be Indie or they're pitching to a network,

518
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: what advice would you give to them to like stand

519
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 2: apart to be different in an set oversaturated industry.

520
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: I'd say do first starter is just do it, and

521
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 4: then also do what feels like natural to you. Right,

522
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 4: you clearly have an idea that you're excited about that

523
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: you want to take action on, So don't second guess yourself.

524
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 4: Just you know, get it out on paper and make

525
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 4: sure that you have like a solid plan, a solid

526
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: structure that you want to follow, and just go for it.

527
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 4: In the age where everybody's kind of chat gpting everything, like,

528
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: there's kind of conversations that we can elaborate on, you

529
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean, via podcast and you can learn

530
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 4: so much and there's like there's it's just it's massive.

531
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: It's a massive space. As many conversations that are actively

532
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 4: happening right now.

533
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: It's massive.

534
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: And there's technology, there's culture, there's comedy, there's so many things.

535
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: So just figure out how you want to make it

536
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 4: your style because that's what people are going to want

537
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: to see. You know what I mean is different and

538
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: you just as an individual, are going to be different.

539
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: So just figure out what that looks like. And then

540
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 4: just go for it. I feel like with anything, and

541
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: even in my own life, like things have just kind

542
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: of happened because I've been able to kind of do them.

543
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: Gone Milo, but you know what I mean, like just

544
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: doing them and things always work out, So that that

545
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: would be my advice, isn't that?

546
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I'm also curious. So I listened to maybe it

547
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: was the most recent episode of La Platica, and was

548
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: it that there was audience members on YouTube that thought

549
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that Josh was like cutting off Sabas, like he was

550
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: being rude to him, h huh, And how they kind

551
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: of handled that on air, And so as a producer,

552
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm really curious how you help them to navigate, whether

553
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: it's drama coming from the audience or drama coming from

554
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: behind the scenes between the hosts, what have you like,

555
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: how you helped massage that.

556
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: Honestly, like, I had no hand in that, Okay, it

557
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: was very much like a My only advice was, hey,

558
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: maybe we should like not spend so much of the

559
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: episode talking about this, you know what I mean? And

560
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: they were like yeah, and Josh immediately was like, yeah,

561
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about, and he was like,

562
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: I got some things I want to say, I'm gonna

563
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: say it for the thought, and I'm like, okay, like

564
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: go for it. But I really had no hand in that.

565
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: It was very much a conversation led by them. But

566
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: there's never any kind of like animosity, you know, like

567
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: I r L that's happening.

568
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: It's just it's just two guys.

569
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Does the audience And I just mean in general, I

570
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: don't mean that's posibally, but do you feel audience is

571
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: sometimes fabricate drama like they see like a slight but

572
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: it's like, wait, no, that was nothing.

573
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: You know.

574
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: This was one example of that happening for sure.

575
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean when especially when things get taken

576
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: out of context, like did you guys see when?

577
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: So you know question right?

578
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So she we had just had her on and

579
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: she had gifted it a set of the cards, so

580
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: we kept them in the studio and I told the

581
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: guys it was like, hey, it'd be a really good

582
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: idea to like kind of dive into your guys' friendship

583
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: with these questions, you know, like let's let's talk about things.

584
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: And then there was one moment where.

585
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: Josh talked about the question that he got or the

586
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: question that's us asked him, was have I ever disappointed

587
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: you as a friend? Like, has there ever been a

588
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: moment where you felt like I wasn't there for you?

589
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: And Josh really took his time to try to think

590
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: of an answer and come up with something, and he

591
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: was like, oh yeah, man, he was like, yeah, one

592
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: time you let me run out of gas and like

593
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: I do remember this, and no, Like the internet went

594
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 4: crazy for it because it's like, how do you let

595
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: your friend run out of a gas?

596
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Gas?

597
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so crazy and it was so funny.

598
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: And then it was it was even more funny because

599
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: a few weeks after that, there was a moment where

600
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: Josh ran out of gas again and luckily some ass

601
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: was like he ran to the gas station, We filled

602
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: the thing and he was running. There's like a follow

603
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: up video that happened. It was just it's just so funny.

604
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: But but again, like another example of things taken way

605
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: in a different direction because she's my pages cliped that

606
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: and everyone in the comments was going after Sabas and

607
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: it's like, yo, like it wasn't even that deep, you

608
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean to begin with, but it's just

609
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: the level that it got to.

610
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

611
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cheesemat pages are the new.

612
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: Tabloids, Yes, very much, very much.

613
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: So what do you think it takes to foster like

614
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: a good hosts co host dynamic, Because we've seen I

615
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: mean we've been super lucky, blessed, but also intentional of

616
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: like keeping a really good dynamic and friendship along the way.

617
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: But we've seen.

618
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: Hosts like fight, yeah physically physically like they talk about like,

619
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we we're not friends. We brawled like we fought.

620
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: You know, We've we've heard chatter from different co hosts, right,

621
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: and sometimes like a show co host will leave and

622
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: a new a new host will come in, you know,

623
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: and there's all these different dynamics when that happens, and

624
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 2: the show can change. So what are your thoughts on

625
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: like fostering like a good co host dynamic, you know,

626
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: especially I don't know what the norm is right now,

627
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: but like sometimes there's just clos that are like thrown

628
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: together that didn't necessarily like co create a podcast together.

629
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: So how do you keep a healthy balance or like

630
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: a healthy essentially a co worker but also friendship dynamic.

631
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: That's a tough one.

632
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: I feel like you definitely Listen, We're all different people,

633
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: and we're all gonna have different viewpoints on things, and

634
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: we all stand, you know, ten toes down for our

635
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: own beliefs. But I think you just have to have

636
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: like mutual respect for the other person despite you know,

637
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: if they what they believe and might not be necessarily

638
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: super one hundred percent aligned with what you but they're

639
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: entitled to their beliefs just as much as you are,

640
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I think maintaining mutual

641
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: respect is super important. I have friendship always helps. I mean,

642
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: if you guys are friends in real life, you're going

643
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: to experience things together or you're gonna want to tell

644
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: your co hosts like, hey, this just happened, I can't

645
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: wait to talk about it, to tell you about it

646
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: like it had. Like having natural chemistry is also just

647
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: like never gonna not be fun to watch.

648
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

649
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: So I think when it comes to like having people

650
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: be put together, I would look at it more in

651
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: the sense of, like, you wouldn't be in that space

652
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: and being presented with this opportunity if it didn't feel

653
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: like a good match. So just kind of trust in that,

654
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And again, going back to

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Speaker 4: the respect thing, like, just respect each other, trust in

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Speaker 4: But that's exactly why you guys are having the conversation,

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Speaker 4: because not everybody's gonna see it from the way that

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, it's just and it's

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Speaker 4: you can because that's what people end up identifying with.

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Speaker 4: So the whole brawl thing about it though, like that

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Speaker 4: that's another level.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well this has been amazing, Jesz. Thank you for taking

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Speaker 1: us behind the scenes, of course, and to some of

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Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful moment in Latino podcasting, and I

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Speaker 1: think you're a big part of that. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for sharing your insights and your creativity with us on

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Speaker 1: Look at a Radio.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you ladies so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: It's an absolute honor. To be in the same room

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Speaker 4: you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, look, I'm honest, thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: another episode of look at Radio. We'll catch you next time.

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Speaker 2: Besos look at a Radio is executive produced by viosa

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Franco is our producer.

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Speaker 2: Story editing by Me.

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Speaker 1: Viosa creative direction by Me Mala.

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