1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Time now for a sports update on a podcast. Freshman 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: CoA Pete scores thirty to lead Arizona pass raining NCAA 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: champion Florida. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: The Raiders are trading. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Wide receiver Jacoby Myers to the Jacksonville Jaguars in exchange 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: for fourth and six round picks. And finally, Madmots were 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: alive when the Great Pyramid. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Was being built. How about that? Is he? I mean, 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: college basketball back? 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: College basketball is back by the Gators lost, So you know, 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: I don't really care that much. 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 4: You know, good to you, Arizona. But Jacoby Meyers, see 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 4: you're giving that. 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: Update, and I was like, oh, that's interesting. There's a 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: name that I recognize. It's a skilled position. He got 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: traded too. 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 4: Oh the Jaguars. I lost all interesting. 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: I get just what The Jaguars are not going to 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: be any fun to watch? 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: Taylor put it on the poll. 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Are the Jaguars the most disrespected five and three team 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: in NFL history? 23 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: No one believes in that. 24 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 4: Nobody, Well, you're really pushing that. 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: So the Jaguars the Raiders just played each other. Jacoby Myers. Theoretically, 26 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 5: if this trade happened two days ago, I could have 27 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 5: just got back on the flight with the Jaguars. 28 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: I thought that game was in Las Vegas. 29 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: You're right, he could have hopped back on the bird 30 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: back to Jacksonville as opposed to staying in Jacksonville had 31 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: they played that game in jackson. 32 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: It's like when you're playing a three game series in 33 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: baseball and the two teams execute a trade and one 34 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: guy just walks from one dug out to the other one, 35 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: just from one playing to the other. 36 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: That would have been great. 37 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I want to say Jacksonville got better today, but I 38 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: don't know. 39 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I have no idea. 40 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: Again, and it's not just because Hey, it's Jacksonville and 41 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: I don't know how good they are. 42 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers only a name. I know, I have no 43 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: idea if he's done anything good this year. 44 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they gotta. I think he's pretty good. 45 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: No, correctly, he's having a down year, mostly because he's 46 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 5: not happy. 47 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: Let's have a live look in on how Jacoby Myers 48 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: is doing. 49 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: Go Taylor. 50 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: So the proper response is the response that Mikey gave 51 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 5: is Jacoby Myers good. 52 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: But I'm also wondering if Jacoby Myers is capable of 53 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: having a down year, does he qualifies it. Yeah, he's 54 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: just having a down year, Like you're making it seem 55 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: like it's Jerry Rice and he's. 56 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Just having a down year this season. Like that's not 57 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: the case at all, Jacoby fucking Myers. 58 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: I also don't think, like, first of all, if there 59 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: are Jaguars fans in Jacksonville, but I think if there 60 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: are Jacksonville fans, like a five and three, we're gonna 61 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: make a big move. We're gonna just take us over 62 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: the edge with this. Oh Jacoby Myers, h what has 63 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: he been doing lately? Like that's not the move that 64 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: really gets you excited. That's not the move that. 65 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: Says, hey, STU got to say we can be in 66 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: the super Bowl. Oh now we got Jacobe Myers. Like, 67 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: it doesn't really I don't. 68 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Think there's a move Jacksonville could make to get me excited. 69 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: They can get you Moore Chase, and I wouldn't be 70 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: excited because their quarterback is still Trevor Lawrence. 71 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: It's a non needle moving team getting a non needle 72 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: moving player. 73 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: That's a couple of non needles cutting it up. 74 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: Of that not really cutting much non needles. Is Lebron 75 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: James still a needle mover. 76 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 5: Stu. 77 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: You've got like your your your early NBA takes. What 78 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: are they so far that have been started? Cooper Flag's 79 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: a bust. 80 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: He's a total bust. I mean Austin Reeves is the 81 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: m v P. That's what he was last week. 82 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: Yes, by the way, I'm just gonna go ahead and 83 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: put this out here. Everybody who's on the victor Winbnyama 84 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: can win m v P this year. 85 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: No he can't. 86 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: No, he can't. It's done. 87 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: He's going to have games where you're just like, Wow, 88 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: that's effing crazy. Nowhere going to be consistent enough to 89 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: win the MVP. You just get that out there, Yeah, 90 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. 91 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Hold on, can I can before you get that out 92 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: You got it out there? Can I argue it? 93 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Please? 94 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Are you telling me if san Antonio makes it to 95 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs? 96 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: Uh? Is a top four seed? 97 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Lem Bin Yama plays you know, most of the games 98 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: because injuries are obviously the concern of the problem with him. 99 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: He missed half the season last year. But let's do 100 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: it this way. 101 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Is he they may the playoffs, they're a top four 102 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: or five seed. He plays seventy two games. You're telling 103 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: me he doesn't win the MVP. 104 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying that part's not gonna happen. Okay, I'm saying 105 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: the top four seed. I'm saying, like Hit, there are 106 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: games where he can be defended. 107 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: You can scheme against him, and you can keep. 108 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: Him to possibly like single figures, maybe even fifteen points. 109 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Like obviously, there's other things you can't really control that much. 110 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: If he's gonna rebound big numbers, he's gonna get big 111 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: rebounding numbers. If he's going to affect the rim, obviously 112 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: he's gonna affect that. He's gonna block some shots there. 113 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: But in terms of just dominating a game and being 114 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: an MVP over the course of a full season, I 115 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: don't see it, which is why I don't think they're 116 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: gonna be a top four seed. They are getting off 117 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: to a nice start and everything else. But you're gonna 118 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: have to figure he's gonna have he's gonna miss some game. 119 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna naturally have some maybe ten to fifteen games 120 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: that he misses, and in those games, will they still 121 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: be as nearly as good if he is dominant in 122 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: the games that he is playing, and then yeah, it's 123 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: just a matter of can he be that consistent. 124 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: Can he take over games? 125 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: And you know, I watched him play against BAM and yeah, 126 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: he's still put up the numbers. The Spurs still won, 127 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: but Bam outplayed him, and I thought the next game 128 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: he didn't look very good and lost to the Phoenix Suns. 129 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: I just feel like that consistency level is not going 130 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 3: to be there yet with victory. 131 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Okay, the other take I've been running with is Luca 132 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: I have had enough. I mean seriously, I mean, you've 133 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: had to the back half of a back to back 134 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: this Whole Men's Health I slimmed down. I'm in the 135 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: greatest shape of my life. I am going to run 136 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers. I'm going to run the Western Conference. I'm 137 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: gonna be the MVP. And he's already missed four games. 138 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, how many games have they played? He's missed 139 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: half of the half of the games the Lakers have played. 140 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: Luca and he misses a back to back, a back 141 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: to backer on the back half? 142 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Is he? How old is Luka Donkic? I mean, honestly, 143 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: what is he doing? What was the whole point of. 144 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Getting in shape the Whole Men's Health magazine cover. What 145 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: was the point of all of it same old Luca. 146 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 6: So Luca Doncicic is twenty six years. 147 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: Old and skinny Luca even like sort of tweaked his 148 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: knee when he was playing in Euros this summer. 149 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: And that actually gets. 150 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: Me to the most interesting part, because I don't think 151 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: he's gonna play enough games to even be in the 152 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: MVP conversation because you have it, doesn't. 153 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Want to play enough games. 154 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, he's gonna sit out some. He's gonna probably be 155 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: heard for some sixty five. It's real, really easy to miss, 156 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: like seventeen games in the NBA. So the interesting part 157 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: to me is we've seen what Austin Reeves does right 158 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: when Luca's out. We've seen when Austin Reeves when Luca's in. 159 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: So when Lebron comes back, they're big three of Austin Reeves, 160 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: Luca and Lebron. Seems like it could be pretty serious, 161 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: like a pretty good trio that you could say, all right, 162 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: I think we can win a championship with that trio. 163 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: But where does Lebron really fit in there? He's the 164 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: third wheel in that trio, is he not? 165 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: Like in terms of the ease with which you score, 166 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: It's not like defensively, he has this you know force anymore, 167 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: and so still the right look, He's still good. But 168 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: as the third wheel, I. 169 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: Don't think he'd used himself as a third wheel anywhere, 170 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: certainly not if the second wheel was Austin Reeves. 171 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: I mean, but if the first wheel, first. 172 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: Of all, is giving you forty ten and ten like 173 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: a forty point triple double on average, that doesn't leave 174 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: much for the second and third wheels period, even if 175 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: it is two way and two b. And the reason 176 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: I set all that up is to say, if this 177 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: is Lebron's like last or second to last year, is 178 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: he going to be the third wheel on a Lakers 179 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: team that might make the finals? Or is he gonna say, listen, guys, 180 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: I don't really understand this role over here. I'm certainly 181 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: not gonna do it behind Luca and Austin Reeves. Send 182 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: me somewhere and the two places that would blow my 183 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: mind interesting if Lebron went there Golden State of Course, 184 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: where it's like the old heads team up and it's 185 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: you know whatever. 186 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: The events staff Jimmy Butler Draymond Green. 187 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: Writes Lebron and Brandon Pajimski the next Jayhaya Tani or 188 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: Stan Antonio to just like, Hey, let's see what we 189 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: can do with this greatest of all time and this 190 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: guy who's gonna be, presumably if he stays healthy and 191 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: continues on this path, the next greatest of all time. 192 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: Those are the two spots I would love to see Lebron. 193 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: I don't care if he wins it in either spot. 194 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: It would be more important if he wins it and 195 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: watched in Golden State. But if he goes to San 196 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: Antonio and doesn't win it, I don't care. I would 197 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: still want to see every single game. 198 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: Sure, so, Stu, I'm imagining this Lakers team like a bicycle. 199 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 5: Luca's the wheel on the front, Lebron's the wheel on 200 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 5: the back. Austin Reeves is more of like the training 201 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: wheels on the side. Because Luca's gonna miss games, Lebron's 202 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: gonna miss games. You need those training wheels in place 203 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: to kind of keep you steady sometimes, and then once 204 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: you're ready, Hey, take those training wheels off. Take Austin 205 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: Reeves out, get it, get it, get in line, buddy, 206 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: you're you're best. 207 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 6: The third option. 208 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: The problem with old training wheels is he missed last 209 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: night's game as well. 210 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: I mean because load management. 211 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, can you be the training wheels when 212 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: on one of your big performance days where you need 213 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: to come up big, you have eight turnovers Like that's 214 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: that's front wheel type of stuff. That's not safety wheels in. 215 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: The back izy. Meanwhile, they're six and two, they're four 216 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: and oh on the road. They're doing that without Lebron 217 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: and basically without Luca. So I don't know why Lebron 218 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: would want to go anywhere. They appear to be very 219 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: good team in a deep Dean Ayton's been great for them. 220 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know. 221 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: Like I would love to talk to some LA fans, 222 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: not even other just to see what they really want, 223 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: Like do they want Lebron to come in here, because 224 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: it's almost like they've already cashed in on the Lebron thing, 225 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: right they got their championship in twenty twenty. 226 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 4: It is what it is, like, Hey, it's all good. 227 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: Now you can move away. 228 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: We don't need the Kobe Bryant overinflated contract taking up 229 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: all our space and then just you know, worshiping what 230 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: you've done in the past, like it's okay, we can 231 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: move on because we have Luca now, we don't need you. 232 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: So I don't really think that for him to come 233 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: in and disturb things potentially because he's Lebron James and 234 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: you never really know what he's thinking. Like if I'm 235 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: a Lakers fan, I'm like, it's okay, Like we can 236 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: just see you off to. 237 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 4: Your next stop. We're good where we're at. Wow, that's 238 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: fairly amazing. 239 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: Like Lebron being a detriment to your team and your 240 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: team's chances to win a championship because Luca is there 241 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: and four training wheels, right. 242 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: If you think about that, like if you are playing 243 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: around Luka Doncics, and this is not even saying that 244 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: any other team in the league wouldn't do this. Of 245 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: course you would take Luka Dancic over a forty year 246 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: old Lebron James to lead your team. But the pieces 247 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: around him can't be slow, can't be aging, can't you know, 248 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: not move around like you've got to move around fast 249 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: because he's the slow one in theory, and he's the 250 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: one that orchestrates everything. So if they're just going to 251 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: take turns, it's not going to be most beneficial for 252 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: the Lakers because Luca's better than Lebron. Lebron doesn't deserve 253 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: as many turns at it. And so, yeah, I think 254 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: when you hear Schams talking about, yeah, I don't really 255 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: know what Lebron's future is, is it as soon as 256 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: this year because we don't know if they'll be in 257 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: next year. I would be more than happy if I'm 258 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: the NBA to see him move on and just create 259 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: another storyline because La is already interesting with Luca. 260 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: Right, So create the San Antonio storyline. 261 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Create, just just take a team, a team that maybe 262 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: people aren't thinking of as contenders, and then boom, you've 263 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: created another storyline in another NBA city for another organization. 264 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: Well they've done because Lebron has landed in your city. 265 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: Did Lebron and Steph Curry thing has been such an 266 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: interesting dynamic, right because in twenty sixteen, when Lebron kind 267 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: of bullied you know, Steph and just did the whole 268 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 3: and he like looked back at him like he was, 269 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: who is this kid trying to take over my league? 270 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: It was like, oh, wow, Steph really has to hold 271 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: his ground. And then you know, here comes KD. Steph 272 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: got his championships twenty twenty two, Steph got that fourth one. 273 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: Now they both have four. 274 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, now you might as well just now you know, 275 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: did the Paris thing together, and just like you know, 276 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: the old heads still running the league. 277 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: So why not. 278 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: As a final act, as a final story, put them 279 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: together and let that be a fifth championship for both 280 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: of them? Can you imagine that they both get five, 281 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: they both match Kobe Bryant, they both say to the 282 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: rest of the league, you know, hold off, because we're 283 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: going to take this one more year. I mean, you 284 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: got Jimmy Butler his stupid title, and it's a great 285 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: championship for everybody. 286 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: You're one step closer to MJ. If you're both Curry 287 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: and Lebron James. 288 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: Well, that's the honesting, right, because then that adds to there, 289 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: will Lebron come back, try to win a six Will 290 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: Steph Curry win a sixth without Lebron? Then that make 291 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: him like, there's just so many intriguing storylines there, so 292 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: much more than oh, can they coexist Luca and Lebron? 293 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: If they stay in LA that to me is not 294 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: nearly as interesting because we already know the answer is 295 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: probably not right. 296 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: I'd like to see it, though, I would. 297 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, Listen, I'm intrigued by your other scenarios, 298 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: but I'd like to see if Lebron and Luca can 299 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of work it out and figure out how to 300 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: win a title together, right, I mean, but why. 301 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: Because what does that really look like? 302 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Because I love the dynamic of having two guys who 303 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: are that good, who view themselves not as a second 304 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: wheel or a third wheel, as the wheel, right well, 305 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: and I love to see how that dynamic plays out. 306 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: Which one's gonna kind of, you know, cater to the other. 307 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: Twenty eleven Miami Heat, like we pretty much saw it. 308 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 3: It was Dwayne's team and Lebron didn't feel comfortable to 309 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: taking over him. By the end, it was like, hey, 310 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: Lebron needs to take over if we're going to be 311 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: at our best. 312 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: So I feel like. 313 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: We've seen it in terms of entertaining and start of 314 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: watching it happen, like I'd be intrigued to figure out, Hey, 315 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: they did work or it didn't work, But watching it 316 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: along the way not so interesting. Watching him with Steph, 317 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: watching him with Vic that would be wildly interesting. 318 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: So I believe in Stu's scenario what he's saying for 319 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 6: the audience at home keeping track. Stu's envisioning the big 320 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 6: wheel tricycle where there's the one dominant wheel on the front. 321 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 6: The Lakers are trying to figure out is this Lebron 322 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 6: or is this Luca? And then in the back Austin 323 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 6: reeves very clearly one of the two smaller wheels in 324 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 6: the back, and then who's the who's the other secondary 325 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 6: wheel on the back? Is it Luca or is it Lebron. 326 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: It's funny, that's exactly what I was trying to figure out. 327 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: I was in my head. 328 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: I had one of those big bikes with a big 329 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: wheel up front, and Lebron's face. 330 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,359 Speaker 2: Was on it, like because it's always on it. 331 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: And if Lebron is the big wheel, then Luca is 332 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: the dude driving the bicycle because he's no longer Lebron. 333 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fourth wheel. 334 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 6: Now we're talking cars. 335 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 5: And where's JJ Reddick in this equation? He kind of 336 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: just seems like he's going along. 337 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: For the rod he is. 338 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: Maybe it's. 339 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: Hand maybe it's an electronic car, an electric car, and 340 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: then just and and JJ is just the dash, Yeah, 341 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: just the computer. 342 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: So how I imagine JJ in this scenario it's almost like 343 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: the again separate vehicle. But those motorcycles with the little 344 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 5: side passenger, like the sad cars. 345 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: Si, yeah, the side car yeah. 346 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 6: JJ reddicks in there. He's just giving the thumbs up 347 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 6: out the window, right. 348 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: But who's driving the motorcycle? That's the question, right, Lebron's driving. 349 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: That motor So we've got to send vehicles now the driver. 350 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any doubt that Lebron, like in 351 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the motorcycle scenario. Don't you think Lebron always thinks he's 352 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: driving the motorcycle. I'm not in the sidecar. I'm driving 353 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: the fucking motorcycle. I'm Lebron, James. 354 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: I think Lebron because he's the big Lebron is the 355 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: big wheel in this scenario for sure, because he thinks 356 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: he's in control. 357 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: Look how big I am. I'm in the front and 358 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: everything is in front of me. 359 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm deciding. No, no, no, it's Luca on top. He's 360 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: driving the big wheel. He's in charge. 361 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: I think we've got this right. 362 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: I think we've got a three wheel motorcycle. Okay, it's 363 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: Luca driving it. Lebron is the big wheel. Austin is 364 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: one of the back wheels. Don't know who the other 365 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: back wheel is yet. And then on the side car, 366 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: JJ Reddick giving a thumbs up. 367 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: I think DeAndre Ayden's the other wheel, though, I. 368 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: Mean maybe in terms of games, you know what, probably 369 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: or really twenty nine points last night he did Hew. 370 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: Prisoner of the moment. I gave him a wheel on 371 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: a bicycle. 372 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: Chub Blazer's sneaky good team. Do you know our interim 373 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: head coach is, by the way, Stu. 374 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: Gets no idea. 375 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: It's a name you'll remember, but you'll never know that 376 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: he was an interim head coach, Thiago Splitter. 377 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Oh, get out of here. 378 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: Thago's and I think he's four and two As their 379 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: head coaches got to play defense. They lead the league 380 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: in steals, they lead the league in turning opponents over. 381 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: It's a pretty good little Portland team right there. 382 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Yep. 383 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: They lost to the Lakers last night without Luca, now 384 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: without Luca, without Lebron and without the training wheels known 385 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: as Austin Reids. But the sidecar was there, the coach 386 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: was there. I don't like my coach being that tall. 387 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you. 388 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: It's so you prefer Aaron Glenn, you like the five 389 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: to nine head coach, not the six to eleven Thiago Splitter. 390 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 391 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: There's just something about a Thiago Splitter towering over everybody. 392 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: I just don't like you have to look up to him. 393 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: It's not like, listen, Billups deserves whatever Billups is getting. 394 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: But that's the kind of size I like is at 395 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: my head coaching position. 396 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: Six for the tallest, Like, what's the tallest your head 397 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 3: coach can because I think pat Riley's like six six, right, 398 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: Like that's a tall man. 399 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a lean, good looking six six. It's 400 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: a different six to six. 401 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 402 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Six to six for me is the perfect height. It's 403 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: Michael's site, Yeah. 404 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: For everything, for a player and a coach. 405 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: Yes, the same way that we found out this weekend 406 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 5: that to nobody's surprised really that Davis Mills was still 407 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 5: the backup quarterback for the Texans. If you would have 408 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: told me Thiago Splitter was like the twelfth man coming 409 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: off the bench for the Spurs. Whatdn't about it? 410 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: And I which was more believable that he was the 411 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: twelfth man, like prolonging his career or that he was 412 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: the head coach right now of the board trail. 413 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, twelfth man put that on the pole tailor. 414 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: It's a fun question. 415 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: Now phrase the questions too, Uh, Thiago's splitter? Would you 416 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: be more surprised? Well, let me think about this for 417 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: a second. Would you be more or less surprised? Would 418 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: you be more surprised if Tiago's Splitter was the Blazer's 419 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: twelfth man, were the heir apparent at Chelsea Phillips job 420 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: to be more surprised to hear Thiago Splitter was a 421 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: twelfth man on the Blazers or the coach of the Blazers. 422 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: The tallest coach in NBA history, I believe, Thank you 423 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Iszy for the help there, because I was looking up 424 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: the tallest coach in NBA history. 425 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: I believe it's Bill courtwright. 426 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: Oh wow, I remember Bill cart Wright. He was the 427 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: worst possible hire as a coach. 428 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 6: Because of his voice. 429 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: You couldn't hear him yelling across the court. 430 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: And you couldn't hear and then like the interviews is terrible, 431 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: you'd have to shut everybody up like Bill Carter a. 432 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: Terrible choice for head coach, thank you, and a terrible 433 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: size for head coach. 434 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, a bit tall. 435 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: Thiago Splitter, by the way, forty years old, same agors Lebron. 436 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: Huh. 437 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: I did not when Lebron went up and what was it, 438 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: Game six or seven of those finals and blocked Thiago 439 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: Splitter at the rim for one of his career highlights. 440 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: I did not have Lebron still in the league playing 441 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: while Thiago Splitter was. 442 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Coaching a head coach. Ever, what are some of the 443 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: names that just make you smile? Because we said Thiago 444 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: Splitter and Taylor just smiled upon hearing the name Thiago Splitters. 445 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Just one of those names, I mean, just one of 446 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: those NBA names that make me smile. 447 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you could have also said like Boris dil there 448 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 5: probably would have got the same reaction. 449 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: Yes, Boris, you could probably go like any number of 450 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: old Spurs, like Matt Bonner. 451 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: It's just wow, Red Mamba. 452 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: Brian Cardinal Guards, the Custodian, the Custodia, that was his nickname. 453 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: I was looking for. 454 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: So this Cooper Flag, Uh, bust, Why do you keep 455 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: saying that? 456 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: What do you expecting from Cooper Flags? 457 00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Dude? 458 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: Listen, let me give you the backstory on this. I 459 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: said it a while back. I said it on the 460 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Lebotard show I was doing. I was doing the show 461 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: with Damn and somehow Cooper Flagg came up and he 462 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: was still a duke and it was coming off a big, 463 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: big game, like a college game. 464 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: I think it was Duke Carolina. He wasn't very good, and. 465 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: I just said, I don't like his game, and I 466 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: don't think it translates to the NBA. 467 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: I think Cooper Flag is going to be a bust. 468 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: It's one of those things I do where I'm the 469 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: only one saying something. It's out landish, it's crazy, and 470 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, no one will remember. 471 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: But if I'm right, you gotta latch on immediately. 472 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: I will remind you. And that's what I'm doing right now. 473 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag bust. No one will remember. 474 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 6: Like Alex Smith. 475 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Mahmes, no one's recording these got no big hacks man, 476 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 3: What do you mean? I did watch all of that 477 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: game yesterday against the Houston Rockets, because, of course, my 478 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: favorite player in Men Thompson, who had a great play 479 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: last night in which he rebounded his own missed free throw, 480 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: got it back to Alpura and Shanngoon and then just 481 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 3: ran back to the rim for a reverse. Lu the 482 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: guy's fing amazing, but Cooper Cooper flag. But that's how 483 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: we should end godless football, isn't it. That's neither here 484 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: nor there. Yeah, and you look at Cooper, and first 485 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: of all, as a rookie is a number one pick, 486 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: you know other players, others, great players are going to 487 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: try to bullieve you. Every Time a Mean Thompson had 488 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: Cooper flag in front of him, he tried to take them. 489 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: Every Time Kevin Durant had Cooper flag in front of him, 490 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: he tried to take him. So life is going to 491 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: be much more difficult than just some guy trying to 492 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: get into the league as. 493 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: An eighteen year old. But he still had his moments. 494 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: He was still fine, especially when you consider he didn't 495 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: play with Anthony Davis or Kyrie Irving last night. And 496 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: so yeah, I think Cooper is not quite He's far 497 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: from a bust stew But for you to jump on 498 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: him now is the time to do it, because as 499 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 3: his career goes, once he turns I don't know, nineteen, 500 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: maybe he'll actually improve when he has the right teammates 501 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: around him. 502 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: So the key to doing this is he thank you 503 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: and we're taking everyone inside what we do for a living. 504 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Flag is averaging like thirteen points six points per game. 505 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that will be the lowest. 506 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: It is its higher NBA career, So I might I 507 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: might as well jump on my great take that I 508 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: made six months ago right now before he starts averaging 509 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: thirty five points a game, you know. 510 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he'll ever get 511 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: to thirty. 512 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: Five, but He's night is a bust, I mean, not 513 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: a bust. Do you think John Morant still has superstar 514 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: ability to him? Because we talked about this before, and like, 515 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 3: the more I think about Ja Morant, a sort of frail, 516 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: skinny point guard who, yeah, I gave you, you know, 517 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: almost twenty eight points a game at one point, I 518 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: don't know how many teams are going to convince themself 519 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: that he is the guy that's going to put them 520 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: over the top. And furthermore, I think there's that's such 521 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: a sort of wide spread thought within the league that 522 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't think Memphis is getting much for him, Like, 523 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: even if Miami tries to trade for him, I don't 524 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: think they've got to give up Tyler Hero for him. 525 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Well, I think It's interesting because I do still think 526 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: John Morant is a player that could be, you know, 527 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: training wheels on a championship team. Okay, for lack of 528 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: a better turn, he even he can even be the 529 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: second wheel I think on a championship winning team. But 530 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: what's interesting is his trade value is so low right now, 531 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: and so they cut. The Grizzlies kind of need Job Moran, 532 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: and John Moran needs a great if he wants to 533 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: get out of there. 534 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: The Grizzlies need. 535 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: Him to play and then play well in order to 536 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: be able to ship him and trade him and get 537 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: max value in return for John Moran. It's a weird 538 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: dynamic where I think the player doesn't want to be 539 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: with the team anymore, the team doesn't want the player anymore, 540 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: but they need each other in the moment in order 541 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: to get max value back for Job. 542 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 3: I guess the question is has he shown enough in 543 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: the past to say, Okay, we can get him back 544 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: to that place. It's kind of like what the example 545 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: that you're giving is what Jimmy Butler did. 546 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: He didn't play well. He was just. 547 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: Basically say, hey, my trade value is going to be 548 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: based on what I've done in the past, not what 549 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: I'm doing. 550 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 4: Now, You've already seen what I can do. 551 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: And I think for Jaw it's yeah, but did it 552 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: translate into winning? Like you got to the playoffs? You 553 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: you know, had some fun in the first round, But 554 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: what did that really translate to? 555 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: And I think you're right. 556 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: If I'm going to trade for ja I would like 557 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: to know that, Hey, yeah, he wants out, but on 558 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: his way out, he's going to play his ass off. 559 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: Yeah he's going to try to give you forty. 560 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 3: He's not just going to pull up for jumpers all 561 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: the time and then blame the coach after the game. 562 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: So that's where the continuing decline in his value happens, because, 563 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: like I said, he hasn't shown enough in the past. 564 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 5: It's crazy looking back to that twenty nineteen NBA draft, 565 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 5: coming from the Knicks fans perspective, it felt like, hey, 566 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: you have to get one of the top two picks, 567 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 5: Zion or John Morant. 568 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 6: Of course, the Knicks fall to three, have to settle 569 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 6: for our J. Barrett. 570 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 5: But if you really look at how that draft class 571 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 5: has panned out, the Knicks were able to flip RJ. 572 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 5: Barrett and Emmanuel quickly for og Annobi, who's a pretty 573 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: big piece of training wheel on a potential championship team. 574 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 6: You're looking at that twenty nineteen draft. 575 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: If you're redrafting twenty nineteen, Tyler Harrow maybe going one. 576 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: Ah wow, we been drafting the twenty nineteen NBA. 577 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: Redraft draft. 578 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: L I mean, I still think Tyler goes three, just 579 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: based on potential. 580 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: But that is a hell of a question because Zion 581 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: all Star. 582 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: Has he been an All Star? I? Yeah, it was, Yeah, Okay, 583 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: John Mortt has been an All Star. So yeah, you've 584 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 3: got three All Stars at the top there, and so 585 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: I would say i'd put them third. 586 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: But Jago's won though, right, I think Joggo's ahead of Zion. 587 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: You the only one. 588 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 6: Who's made an All NBA team there. 589 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah that's for Shure. Yeah, but that's my point. 590 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, All NBA team, you know, twenty 591 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: seven points a game and people would say, Okay, he's 592 00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: a finished product. 593 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: I don't think he is, because again, what did that 594 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 4: lead to? 595 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: Did it lead to a bunch of winning in the postseason, 596 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: or did it lead to, you know, losing to Steph 597 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: Curry a team that knows how to win. 598 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: I am doing something I haven't done since last week. 599 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: I am typing in the twenty nineteen NBA draft into 600 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: my computer right now, and I'm redrafting it. 601 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: I think Jordan Poole becomes a top ten pick. 602 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: Get he's up there. 603 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: It was actually a deeper draft than you realize when 604 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: you thought, like guys like PJ. Washington, Cameron Johnson, Ruy Hachimura, 605 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: have Kobe White have all like really found the late 606 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: not saying that they're spectacular, but really good players. 607 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 4: In the middle of that first round. 608 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: So I think Jaw does go I think so. I 609 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: think Ja goes first. 610 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: I think Hero goes second, I think Garland goes third, 611 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: and I think Zion goes fourth. 612 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 613 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah that is good. 614 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Garland's good. But I guessed I was 615 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: asking he's all right. I think even today you'd still 616 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: take Zion over Garland. I think it's Ion flames out 617 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: this year and does nothing. Then I think you hit 618 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: that redraft again in twenty twenty six and we'll move 619 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: him up. 620 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: I love a good redraft. Taylor, thank you. 621 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 5: A lot of people in that fifth spot contention. DeAndre Hunter, 622 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: is there easy? You mentioned Kobe White? 623 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Nah Yeah, there's some people. 624 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: I mean even RJ. 625 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: Barrett. RJ. 626 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: Barrett, nice little player. 627 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, number five. I told you number five. 628 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: Was who We'll you find him? 629 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: No, Zion was four for you, Yeah, but for me, 630 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: there was a definitive number five in that Uh. I 631 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: gotta find him. He's way down. He got draft. He 632 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: got Jordan Poole late. 633 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 6: Oh, Jordan Poole. 634 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Poole, I think is probably the fifth best 635 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: player for that draft. It's crazy, Jordan Poole. 636 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: If Jordan Poole doesn't have a championship behind him, he is, 637 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: he's even more of a joke. Right, Like, if he 638 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: didn't win that championship with Steph Curry and he's out 639 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: here putting up thirty seven percent shooting, he'd be like, 640 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: what the hell. 641 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: Is this guy? I was he still playing? 642 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? Can we can we redraft the draft every day? 643 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 4: Can we do that m from different leagues? Or just 644 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 4: do we want to do NBA or I. 645 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: Have no interest in the hockey draft. I have no 646 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: interest in Major League Baseball's draft. I mean I don't 647 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: want to do. You know, Piazza's draft over again. He 648 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: was drafted in like the twentieth rounds. He was number 649 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: one overall picking that draft. If we were drafted it. 650 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: I like NFL and I like NBA. 651 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: I want to do one today. 652 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 6: There's only two drafts. There's the NFL Draft and there's 653 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 6: the NBA Draft. Everything else is what you what you 654 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: read about later. 655 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a question. This is like, it's bothering me. 656 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if it bothers everybody else. 657 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: Just watch a lot of football, and there's certain things 658 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: that you just need to know, and like when you're 659 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: at there's this epidemic going on. Okay, when teams have 660 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: a fourth down and they stop the opposition on fourth down. 661 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: It drives me up a wall. 662 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: When a defensive player then gives the fourth down single signal. 663 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: Again, it's like, what are you doing? 664 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: Man? 665 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: It's ball that way. 666 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: You can't celebrate by saying fourth down again. That means 667 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: you don't know the situation. If I'm a coach and 668 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: I see a defensive player after a fourth down stop 669 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: give the fourth down symbolic, he's sitting for the next 670 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: two drives because you don't know time and situation. That 671 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: and I'm telling you, Stu, I don't know if it's 672 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: happening more this year than before because there's so many 673 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: teams going forward on fourth down. 674 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: But it is infuriating. I guarantee you're gonna see it 675 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: this weekend. 676 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: I guarantee it that three Draft is a doozy NBA. 677 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: I mean