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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? It's Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula,

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Speaker 1: Specter two. And guess what. I also have what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, I'm Johnley Brody, your non specter, full on moderator,

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Speaker 4: and today we're going over season one, episode fourteen, Rebel Resolve.

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Speaker 4: Now ice everybody. We love to do our check in

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Speaker 4: line was for you, Taylor, because I know we've brought

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I never thought about that. Let's leave it

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Speaker 2: Trust Taylor to come up, come up with the you know,

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Speaker 5: I got another one later.

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Speaker 3: Now this is going to bring Jase into it because

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Speaker 2: And will continue to continue.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you know what I mean, Yeah, for sure.

435
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 2: I feel like there's probably an element of like the

436
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: Disney plus of it all, the Disney of it all,

437
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: versus like some of those scenes in Clone Wars, which

438
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: are far more explicit, and uh, I don't know, you know,

439
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 2: like they you see stuff in Clone War, they're they're

440
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: willing to go places in Clone Wars that like we

441
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: weren't able or willing to go, probably because we were

442
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: on you know, we were a Disney property by then,

443
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: don't you think? I don't know, can I say that?

444
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite moments was when they're like, oh,

445
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: this little buddy, look, this little mech did such a

446
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: good job. We can keep them right, yeah, and then

447
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: Chopper shoves him out of the plane to his demise

448
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: with lothcats below, and and the look on our face

449
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you know that he just kicked this

450
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: into the like what a cold blooded killer Chopper is?

451
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: Like that was pretty ruthless.

452
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm so glad you brought that up. I

453
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: put that in my notes because I found that very

454
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 4: interesting for a couple of reasons. One, there's a whole

455
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: bit of like droid hierarchy for lack of a better word,

456
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 4: and Star Wars where there's always somebody that's the number one,

457
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: there's always somebody that's the number two, and I want

458
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 4: to bring some I put this in my notes because

459
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: I know, we're all very much like a curious, like

460
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: curious minded group. And I love talking to you because

461
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 4: you're all very intellectual, and you know, we all bring

462
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: different things to the table. Do you know the book

463
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: forty eight Loss of Power by I think Robert Green

464
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: is the author.

465
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: Dude.

466
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 5: I think I have it on this desk, I have

467
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: it upstairs.

468
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

469
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 4: So this is what I think about when I see

470
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 4: Chopper versus and with this imperior Caurier Doid Imperial career joid,

471
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: because he sees that Zeb's taking the lik and do

472
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: him and the Caurier Droid is a lot more amicable

473
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 4: and like doing the thing, can do the job just

474
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: as well, maybe even better, and it has like the

475
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: other team's playbook. Number one rule of the forty Loss

476
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: of Power is like never outshine the master. I feel

477
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 4: like if this Courier Droid had read known this book,

478
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't know Like, hey, maybe I just can't get

479
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 4: on the wraps and not let Chopper know I'm a

480
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: threat to his hierarchy on this ship, because I think

481
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: Chopper's like, no, f this dude, Like you're not going

482
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 4: to steal my thunder Because the counter arguments of that

483
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: people listen to this. He goes, well, what about EP

484
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 4: five who comes in later? Like those two are completely

485
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: different categories where they're not a threat to each other's

486
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: like power dynamic. But I thought of forty allows of

487
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: power with this, and I want to plant that seat

488
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: here to see, Like, what do you think with me

489
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 4: planting that seat with you?

490
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I one hundred percent agree.

491
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is curious to me. I'm in this.

492
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: I the hierarchy of the droids is always sort of confound.

493
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out what the rules are.

494
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: I think you're right in that, Like if there's no competition,

495
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: it's fine, you know, Chopper lets it go. But man,

496
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: he's so petty. That guy was just trying to help.

497
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: He was like a sweet little droid and got the

498
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: boot because Chopper can't can't handle, you know, feeling threatened.

499
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say to your point that it's

500
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: not quite as dark in our cartoon. Kicking him out

501
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: is dark, but when he lands in loth Catskill, yeah yeah, yeah,

502
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: it's not like we saw him in a thousand pieces

503
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: on the ground.

504
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

505
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 6: It brought levity to that for sure.

506
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: But I thought that like this, someone should have fed

507
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 4: this droid forty eight laws of power and like the

508
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: Prince mind Machiavelli, and then maybe he slowly could have

509
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 4: infiltrated the Ghost crew just by me a little more

510
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: like tactical with it. But he was so upfront with that,

511
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: which is like, that's the charm of droids and robots

512
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: and TV and movies. It's like they're really just doing

513
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: what they're programm to do. And that's why we always

514
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: like had this sort of affection towards them, because they're

515
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: really just following their programming. But I just thought of

516
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: that power dynamic boosting the two because you think, like, oh,

517
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: two's better than one. But I was like, uh no, no, no,

518
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: I'm I'm this kind of I'm the astro mech on

519
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 4: the ship. I'm not going to have any of this

520
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 4: if you're going to try to outshine me, and I

521
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: just that just made me laugh.

522
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like dogs with their at their house when

523
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: you bring over another dog, they have to hold their

524
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: territory for a little bit.

525
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then physically boom them out.

526
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: But I do, I do like when they fall what

527
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: Vanessa saying, like he's droids are okay to fall from

528
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: however far out of the sky because they're Troy, right.

529
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: But I also find it funny that there's a sort

530
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: of like shake Shakespearean element to Star Wars, of like disguise.

531
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: You know how in different shakespeare place they'll put a

532
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: hat on and now suddenly no one can recognize them

533
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: and with like they just do a little coat of

534
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: paint and this is like, no one has any idea

535
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: or I get it when they when they put on

536
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: a full trooper helmet, like they look like a trooper,

537
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: but just the paint jobs. I love how that confuses everyone. Yeah,

538
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: I think it's very, very funny. But also I loved

539
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: how there was a lot of Steve talking to Steve

540
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: yes like their house, Like hang on a second, that's

541
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: Steve saying something to himself as another trooper.

542
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: I've started saying it out loud as I'm watching. I'm like, Steve,

543
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Steve, Steve. It's like a fun

544
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: game to play because I just am delighted every time

545
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: because Steve can do everything, anything and everything, so yeah

546
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: he can fully It's like d right playing all the

547
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: clones and doing all the voices and dialects and accents

548
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: and whatever. It's like, put the two of those guys

549
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: in a room together and like you don't need any

550
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: more actors because they can just do it all. I

551
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: was going to say that I really loved that scene

552
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: where Chopper escapes and the Stormtroopers sort of flowed out

553
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: into space. I thought that was rad.

554
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 6: His point break moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

555
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed this episode watching it again.

556
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: It's fun and it's also and then I was talking

557
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: about this with jac before we all everybody jumped onto

558
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: the to the video chat to do this and conventional

559
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: quote unquote like TV storytelling. Yeah, the last episode was

560
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: somebody's captured, and then by this episode they probably would

561
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: have gotten him and it's all result and maybe that's

562
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: the season finale. From a storytelling perspective, I so appreciate

563
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: that an entire episode was devoted to just trying to

564
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 4: get this piece of information, and even when they get it,

565
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: it's like there's still not a solution yet, and I

566
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: know we get a two be continued, but it's because

567
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: like for me, it's like I grew up with the

568
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: original trilogy just like everybody here. The last episode felt

569
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: like Empire strikes back and you're thinking, oh, well, this

570
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: would be like Return of the Jedi where the plan

571
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: comes into action, they get Canaan and then we go

572
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 4: back onto the main rebel mission. But I love that

573
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: they took the time to really invest in what's the

574
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: struggle going to be like to try to function without

575
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: a key member of the team. How do we figure

576
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: it out and find where he is? And then let

577
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: me figure out where he is? Like, oh, I'm trying

578
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: to keep most of our system we know is trouble.

579
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: So what a great like bookend to that to lead

580
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: into what the season finale is.

581
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 6: Going to be?

582
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: Indeed, wait is the next episod of the season finale?

583
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 6: Yeah? Can you believe it?

584
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

585
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Dang, I feel like we probably it's probably one of

586
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: the episodes you have seen.

587
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we saw finales and from Yeah, they.

588
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: Would screen them for it. I feel like they screened

589
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: it for us at Disney. Think, yeah, so it'll be

590
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: a rewatch for you this time.

591
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: Uh.

592
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: And back to like Stephen d doing like every single

593
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: voice ever has anybody made that Spider Man meme? We

594
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: know when the plenty and they like like Steve Bloom

595
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: or Dee Bradley Baker like with all their characters. It

596
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: would take up the entire like screen, like an Imax

597
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: screen to do it. But somebody should do it, somebody

598
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: out there listening.

599
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would take too much time. There's too many

600
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: characters between the two of them, between the two of them,

601
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: and Vanessa forgets.

602
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: It's true, Like Vanessa, you too, Like if you had

603
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: one of the Spider Man memes, of all your characters,

604
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: you're also.

605
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: Going to be Friday.

606
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: Someone gonna make that somebody.

607
00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 8: That's the orca is a long Steve's will be massive. Yeah, well,

608
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 8: I definitely. I keep thinking about the Hara emotional load.

609
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 8: I don't think I think it's easier to feel what

610
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 8: you felt John observing the whole thing. I think in

611
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 8: the recording of it, I didn't understand all that she

612
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 8: was struggling with, to be honest, because it seems pretty

613
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 8: clear to me, if you get in order, that's just

614
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 8: the end of it. I get that she was pained

615
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 8: about it and bombed out and had to administer bad

616
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 8: news to these guys to say no, you can't do it.

617
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 8: But it's only in the rewatching that I feel things

618
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 8: so much more deeply.

619
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: In a way. I mean, maybe other than Canaan's sacrifice.

620
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Ultimately that was pretty hard to do. But anyway, it's

621
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: just interesting I.

622
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: Want to go even maybe even because you talking about

623
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: that and I think I know the answer, but you

624
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: can confirm now, did you know anything about Harri's family

625
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: dynamic and like her relationship with her father at this point,

626
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: because when I think about when we see later that dynamic,

627
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: that scene also hits differently because it's like, you know,

628
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: the whole intergenerational trauma, like maybe as a coping mechanism

629
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: or defense mechanism, that's how you became to be or

630
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: you were raised to take orders and not question things,

631
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: like almost a blind faith thing.

632
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 6: But again you didn't know that at the time.

633
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: But it's just that's what I thought of as well

634
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: on the rewatch and probably why I had such a

635
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: reaction to it.

636
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Well, I think her father thought about rebellion very differently

637
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: than she did, and she pledged allegiance to Folcrum's version

638
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: of rebellion. So her difference of opinion with her father, Uh,

639
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think it could be said,

640
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.

641
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I feel like her father was a perfectionist and she

642
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: was more of a ragtag, you know, not that she

643
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: sought mediocrity or anything like that, but that there was

644
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: something about having a chosen Fai family that may not

645
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: be perfect but still accomplishes great things one small step

646
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: at a time. That that's something. She'll follow those orders,

647
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: no problem, but she was happy to disobey her dad

648
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: and leave. But still I think that that dynamic probably

649
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: is a lot for her and for all of them.

650
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: When you do find your chosen family and you're told

651
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: you can't rescue the quote unquote father figure, that's not cool.

652
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, And I'm so glad you brought that. That

653
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: that raises another I think it could be a thought

654
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: provoking question for the three of you as well.

655
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 6: Let's go back to Folkan really quick.

656
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask about.

657
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: Because I look at this two ways.

658
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: One, if you don't know who Focrium is at this point,

659
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: you're just like, Okay, this maybe is just severally pragmatic

660
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: thinking leader who's like, follow this is the plan needs

661
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 4: like very mister Spock, needs of many, ouweigh the needs

662
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: of the few. Sort of thing hits differently now because

663
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: we know who Fokrim is and we've talked about it here.

664
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: We know it's Ahsoka, so now this is my whole

665
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: thing is like it makes me think of, Okay, what's

666
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: going through Ahsoka's mind because at this point she's already

667
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: walked away from the Jedi Order, and what she says

668
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: really goes against the Jedi ethos like you don't leave

669
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: people behind, or or even like it goes against the

670
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: whole thing. Was like, at you're showing that ultimately throughout

671
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: the course of this episode and the next one, that

672
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: attachment's not weakness where that's kind of how it's been

673
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: viewed in like the Jedi Order.

674
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 6: But it just it's a.

675
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: Think something to think about of how far she's diverged

676
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: from like the Jedi path. If she's given that order

677
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 4: to you to not even think about going after Canaan

678
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: and I just wanted to plant that seat.

679
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 6: Is everybody here?

680
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Well, she does say Ezra could die and with him

681
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: dies hope, so I feel like she's doing it to

682
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: protect Ezra, which is greater than forget Canaan in a way.

683
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

684
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 6: I don't know.

685
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 4: It's an interesting thought though, you know, when you when

686
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: you when you break down the layers of the fact

687
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: that because when you first watch like, okay, this is

688
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: a look I said, a practical thinking leader. But then

689
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: when you know it's Ahsoka, what she's been through and

690
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: where she is now, it's just again like we may

691
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: not have the answer today, but it's just something like

692
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: oh wow, Like once you kind of see it, you

693
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: can't unsee it. And that's kind of how I felt

694
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: when I rewatched it.

695
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: It feels like like the laws of war, like everything

696
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: is thrown out the window and you don't get to

697
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: be the person you are outside of war. You can't

698
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: take all of those values and you know, your belief

699
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: system it must change, right because of the stakes and

700
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: lives are literally at risk, and you know, the the

701
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: greater like the greater sort of good that you're fighting for.

702
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, her hands are tied. I mean,

703
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: that's kind of what happens in battle and war, Like

704
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: you can't make the decisions that you would ordinarily because

705
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: there is there are so many more lives at stake,

706
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: And like she said, doesn't she say, Like he's made

707
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: his choice, He's made his sacrifice, which, by the way,

708
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: hits so much differently having now watched it for the

709
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: first time since watching How Our Show Ends, I've never

710
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: seen it.

711
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: You know.

712
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: When I watched it the first time, I didn't know

713
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: what was going to happen. So, yeah, that felt heavy

714
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: on my heart when I watched that.

715
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a very utilitarian idea of like this or

716
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 5: that the train tracks and it's funny though too now

717
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 5: thinking about all of it. The show is called rebels,

718
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: like they are going to rebel against what they're told.

719
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 5: That's that was another thing that just kind of clicked.

720
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: Like Ezra I think is always sort of rebelling, like

721
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: his spirit is just that. The thing that I was

722
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: trying to figure out with Fulcrum is in this again

723
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: might be to JC, where does is fulkroom a position?

724
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: And then someone holds it and you know what I mean,

725
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 3: like as the sort of air traffic controller if you will,

726
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: and like, because we're not the only rebel outlet, right,

727
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: like there are other small uh factions, yeah, factions of

728
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: the rebel alliance. And then does ful Crumb give the

729
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: sort of orders and oversee it in a way and

730
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: then people can like step into that position, you.

731
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: Know, but just her code name, right, like it's not

732
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: a position so much as like that's her code name

733
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: that she uses, but.

734
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: Then someone else ends up taking on the name Fulcrum.

735
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: But that's not to spoil.

736
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: Well we talked about this already.

737
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 9: Past the point, but you know what I mean, is

738
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 9: it a I just wonder like, is it a position

739
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 9: that she's sort of calling out shots to other uh

740
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 9: parts of the rebellion?

741
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 6: That's an interesting question. I mean I never thought about

742
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 6: it like that.

743
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: I mean I almost felt like when you've worded like that,

744
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: it's almost like, you know, like Batman a symbol, like

745
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: anybody could technically be Batman, and like that is that's

746
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: a symbol for this for justice? Is like maybe that's

747
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: what the name Folkrim means. And then it passes on

748
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 4: to the next person who's going to be full within

749
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: the rebel alliance. I don't know, but you know who

750
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: well knows JC when we get the other, which is

751
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: always a great insurance policy. But that's I never thought

752
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: about that. I was just like, was like, oh, that's

753
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: that's just the code name that she uses.

754
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: If you look up folk Like, we know what a

755
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: fulk means, but it's like a thing that plays the

756
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: central is a central or central role in an activity, event,

757
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: or situation. Yeah, like it feels too on the nose

758
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: the point on which they'll lever rests are supporting, which

759
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: it pivots, Like that's the thing that you know.

760
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 6: What I mean, Yeah, on the seesaw, like controls the

761
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 6: seesaw going back.

762
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that everything rests on this. And like you know

763
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, something that you said just made me,

764
00:37:54,200 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, just wonder absolutely. I was just thinking,

765
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: like and I could I could be wrong about this,

766
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: but up until this Folkrum storyline, and once you know, sorry,

767
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: let me what am I trying to say? Basically, I

768
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: almost think that like these rebels, the Ghost Crew have

769
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: been rebelling, happily rebelling against the Empire on their own

770
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: and not really like necessarily aware of all the other

771
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: factions in all the other on all the other worlds.

772
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: And do you know what I mean? Like you were saying, like, well,

773
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: surely you know they're part of the rebel alliance and

774
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: there's other factions, and I'm like, but have they even

775
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: been sort of they probably of course would be aware

776
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: of that, but like it's not operating as part of

777
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: the larger rebellion right, They're they're like doing what they

778
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: can where they can. Am I wrong?

779
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 7: Is it?

780
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: Are they part of I mean, are they actively part

781
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: of the larger rebellion? Or is this folkrum business the

782
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: first time that they're actually kind of getting connected with

783
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: the larger rebellion? Am I'm making any sense at all? All

784
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: of your faces look extremely.

785
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: Cool just just listening because I'm I think some of

786
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: us are wondering the same thing. And I think Vanessa,

787
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 4: you probably would know. You have a lot of insight

788
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: into this, But to me, it just seems like they're

789
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: almost on their own, like they're they're the independent film.

790
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: They're not working with the making.

791
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think. Like they're just like merely

792
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: going and doing what they can and causing as much

793
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: destruction to the Empire as they possibly can. But it's

794
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: not in conjunction or in cahoots with like these guys

795
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: over here that are doing this, and it's kind of

796
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: like we're on our own until we're not.

797
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's almost like is like

798
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: the friend of Hara, Like Fulcrum's maybe like one of

799
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: the executives at the studio that's going to get you

800
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: in there. Or like just kind of be new ways,

801
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 4: like the bridge of that gap. But to me, it's

802
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: like it comes out that the first season really is

803
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: them thing that maybe they think they're the only ones,

804
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: they know that there's others, but they're also just on

805
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: their own. But I don't think they understand how big

806
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: this collective really is because they hint at it in

807
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: episode three with droids and distress, when we actually meet

808
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: Senator Arghana and you know, we meet three PO and

809
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: r tw D two we know because we know Star Wars,

810
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: but the Ghost Career has no idea. But Vanessa, it

811
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: seems like you have a lot of knowledge you're sitting on.

812
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear what in your brain right now.

813
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: JC probably has a better answer. But from what I understand,

814
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: we are only responsible for our group, and we're doing

815
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: our part within the context of something larger that we

816
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: don't even understand, and the less we know, the more

817
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: likely we are to stay alive. So I think Fulkrim

818
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: knows everything and is moving all the chess pieces, and

819
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: that's why from it is forced to say we can't

820
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: risk losing Ezra. You cannot go get Canaan because they

821
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: have a better sense of what's at stake sort of

822
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: globally if you will, and or galactically, and so we

823
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: are blissfully unaware of those things. And I think it's

824
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: much like I'm Specter two and Specter one knows nothing.

825
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: It's for a reason to keep him safe and a lot. Yeah,

826
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: but if we just focus on the mission and getting

827
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: our part done it, it will help the overall. But

828
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that we had a sense

829
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: of and didn't need to and probably we're better off

830
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: for not knowing all of it. If we're caught and

831
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: tortured to reveal that information, it would not be great.

832
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 6: That makes sense, That's my thought.

833
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: But I'm JCO probably no.

834
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: Or jc's like James Carvill and old school. He's like,

835
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: I have no response. That was perfect because I thought

836
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 4: you wrapped it up really nicely.

837
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: Just now, well, I who knows, so, I mean, the

838
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: steaks are really really high. But uh, but you're right, Taylor,

839
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: of course we rebel, Like were you thinking, what do

840
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: you think I was gonna do?

841
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 8: Buddy?

842
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: Like?

843
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: Have you married?

844
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Like?

845
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure secretly she kind of hoped you would,

846
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: but I guess for safety, that's why she got mound.

847
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm I mean, she was hop and mad, y'all.

848
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: She was like curious. I was watching, like, hey fall back,

849
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, like, did I ever explode like that?

850
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: We never, I don't think. I was just like, Harah,

851
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: mommy needs a crazy get a lopcat woman, like.

852
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: Get it together, emotional support lop cat for for Haarrah.

853
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: You know, oh dear, there we go, there we go.

854
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 3: All right, you're a big one scale.

855
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: For those that are just listening, like we have a

856
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: lot cat as a chat right now, so it's.

857
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: Real as big as like a four year old child.

858
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 6: At least they listen.

859
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: The more you talk about the whole notion of rebelling,

860
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: like there's everyone has their own thing they're rebelling against.

861
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: In this obviously the Ghost Crew, but even when we

862
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: were talking about Ahsoka slash Fulcrum just now like she's

863
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: rebelling against probably this past experience she had with the

864
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 4: Jedi Order, where I'm sure she finds a lot of

865
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: validity in it, you know, built her foundation and ultimately

866
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: led to her shape in into who she is. But

867
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: at the same time, she like, hey, there's there's fallacies

868
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: in your philosophy, and she's the one trying to correct it.

869
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: That works for her, and it seems but then so

870
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: that's why, like it hits so much different when I

871
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: know who Fulkrim is, knowing what her past is, so

872
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: she's rebelling against that. And then the mind probe droid,

873
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: which is the first time we see it in Rebels.

874
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: The first time we saw was a New Hope. But

875
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: it's funny to think that this is the first time

876
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: they'll see that mind pro droid. If this is your

877
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: introduction to Star Wars, Canaan's rebelling against that, like the

878
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: electro shock, He's like, no, I'm still not going to

879
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: give you the information you want despite all your best efforts.

880
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: And so everyone has their own little rebellion that they're

881
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 4: doing in this episode, and even the Empires a rebelling

882
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: against the resolve of the Ghost Crew and the Ripol Alliance.

883
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: So it's again, like I saidt the beginning, it's a

884
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: very double meaning of the title of this episode. There's layers,

885
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: so many, so many, Okay, let's bring a little levity

886
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: into that. We've been talking about the heavy stuff and

887
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: this has all been really fun. But one of my

888
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: favorite moments is when zeb Sabine and Azra go to

889
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: see Pizago, because the Visago scenes always cracked me up,

890
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: and I thought this brought a lot of much needed

891
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 4: comic relief. And I didn't notice this before, but when

892
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: as was about to show him like no, Caanain's a Jedi,

893
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 4: and when he says that, the music stops, there's a

894
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 4: whole pause. But even that security droid that's like moving

895
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: the crates, like he stops and turns and goes, wait,

896
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: what what's going on? And then Vizago starts laughing, and

897
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: then the security joy just I'm like, oh, yeah, he's

898
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: no Jedi. But I don't know the name of that

899
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: security droid, but I think jac will. But uh, I

900
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: just thought it was finding that even the droid turned

901
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 4: around when Ezra said that Cane is a Jedi, and

902
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: it gave everybody a little pause of wait, what the

903
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: f Like, what's going on?

904
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Straight up record scratch.

905
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: He really does have like sit calm moments.

906
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I brought up early on like things

907
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: like that, and I enjoy that.

908
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 5: It's fun.

909
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, even when when you're when Ezra was bowing to

910
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: h to Vizago, well, first, he like grabbed his horn

911
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 4: and he's.

912
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 6: Like, whoa, what are you doing?

913
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: But then the way that Ezra bowed it reminded me

914
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: of there's this episode of Remember Animaniacs, of course, remember

915
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: when they're teaching the Warner uh yack o. Waco and

916
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: Don had like curtsy and they're like, gonna curtsy. That's

917
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do, a curtsy, and you and even

918
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: I was like all right, I can't come on, like right, Yeah,

919
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: it was like strategically placed in these episodes where Okay,

920
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: let's we're gonna this is gonna be really serious stuff,

921
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: but they balanced that, I felt pretty darn perfectly with

922
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: those moments of levity, so it's not just completely a

923
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: depressing and high stakes episode.

924
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

925
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: I think that's the I say this all the time,

926
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: so sorry for sounding like a broken record, but like

927
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: that's the beauty of Star Wars to me, that like

928
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: in various Star Wars media, you know, whether it's live

929
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: action or films or series or animation, that like there's

930
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: just this perfect balance of comedy and levity and hilarity

931
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: and kind of adorable. Adorable sounds sounds like I'm kind

932
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: of trivial. Yeah, I don't mean that, I mean like delightful.

933
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Maybe that's better banter and wit, and then you've got

934
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: like really you know, catastrophe, big things happening, and real

935
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: emotion and real like high stakes, high high octane action,

936
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: and it's just like one of the things that I

937
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: love about Star Wars the most is that balance.

938
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Taylor, question for you, Oh God, and that's so

939
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: well said to you. I wonder agree you said that

940
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: because you said that we talked about earlier in the

941
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 4: season that they had cameras in the booth that kind

942
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: of track your emotions. So did they model that little

943
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: curtsy after your movement? Like did you do that? And

944
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: then like, yeah, I wondering I can I can retire

945
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: from the podcast now because that's all I want to

946
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: know about the entire series.

947
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brennant, that's heard of her first box.

948
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: Definitely definitely was Kurt saying there and grabbing Uh was it?

949
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 7: Keith?

950
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 5: Was his name? Keith who played.

951
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 6: Keith's horn, Keith van Horn, the best wall player? Yeah, exactly.

952
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: I also love that Zago's horn is broken. I never

953
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: notice that it's so funny.

954
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 6: Is it is?

955
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that I think believe you.

956
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes I write notes when I'm watching the show, and

957
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: I have a real hard time decide for him when

958
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here with you guys, because I'm like, why

959
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: did I write broken horn? So I'm assuming that it

960
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: was broken, but it could mean something completely different.

961
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 6: Well, that we actually saw that happen.

962
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 4: It was either Clone Wars, right, Like, was that on

963
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: Clone Wars we actually see the origin of his broken horn?

964
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: Or Jase would probably know, or it was I know,

965
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 4: I've seen an animated episode where got in trouble and

966
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: you actually saw like it was like punishment for like

967
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 4: a debt Hea.

968
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, you're totally right. Also, can we just sicatro

969
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: Visago is the sickest name.

970
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, what a name?

971
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 6: Yeah?

972
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: And his jewelry, I love it. It's great.

973
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a g Sorry now I'm just looking at it.

974
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm just imaged pouring over images oftro.

975
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: Instagram.

976
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 6: I know that name jewelry, He's like the mister t of.

977
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: It's going to be the.

978
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 5: Best name in the show so far. That's hilarious.

979
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of really good names.

980
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 5: What's the better one? Let me think about it? Goes

981
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: the debate.

982
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I want that brought it up? Why why

983
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: am I arguing with you? Let me do? I love names?

984
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 6: Uh?

985
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: I love names a lot. I love words and names.

986
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: If y'all couldn't tell already, I love language and words.

987
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: So now I'm going to see what if I can

988
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: think of any Actually, if anyone listening can think of

989
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: like better names and Sicatroviga, which frankly it is hard

990
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: to be, please drop.

991
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: Them on social I think if anyone out there can

992
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: think of a better name than sicatro Viga, they should

993
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: be in the writer's room for stargh.

994
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 6: That's the crop and aiming right there.

995
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: That's true.

996
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 5: Luke Skywalker is a pretty goodness.

997
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: It's so Skywalker.

998
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 6: It's yeah, that is pretty cool.

999
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: It's it's like I don't want to say simple because

1000
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: that means I'm like, I don't want to minimize, like

1001
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: how cool his name is. But it's like the name

1002
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan. Okay, it's like it's they're two very easy

1003
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: to remember names. But it's like it's Michael Jordan just

1004
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: like it's Luke Skywalker. It's easy to pronounce. It doesn't

1005
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: sound fancy. But Luke Skywalker is a badass as well,

1006
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: you know.

1007
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Totally uh. Sorry, now I'm on a whole.

1008
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I gotta go.

1009
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you guys later. I will say, no,

1010
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: there's too many. I will say I think that Lando

1011
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: Calrissian is like.

1012
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: Cool, that's a bang. That's a banger. I think we're

1013
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: also letting how cool he is. Bleeding the name is cool.

1014
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: It's so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll.

1015
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 5: Chatt in a bit.

1016
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: We got to take a poll. Let's take a pole.

1017
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 6: I think met like, yeah, well that's a cool name.

1018
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Hold on, I just quickly did a little Okay, wait,

1019
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: hold on, who says that Watto is the number one

1020
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 2: best Star Wars character name? Who's who's doing this? Watto?

1021
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: Who's wa Vanessa?

1022
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: Oh he's Oh gosh, I can see him. Uh He's

1023
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: like he's just flying. Oh god, what is that race?

1024
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 6: Jason?

1025
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 10: Oh?

1026
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 6: From a from a Phantom Menace. It's like he's like, oh,

1027
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: I know who that is. I just don't work on me,

1028
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 6: Like is that?

1029
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: Hold on? We maybe we need flag on the field,

1030
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: We need j C. J C.

1031
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 5: So it's time to call him.

1032
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: I think at this point that's a natural end and

1033
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: natural segue to our check segment with j C.

1034
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 6: Who's going to correct everything we got what we only hope.

1035
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, okay blue or something, And I apologize.

1036
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 10: This fact check is gonna be all over the place.

1037
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 10: It's there, it's going to be so all over the place.

1038
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: It's out fault really, so.

1039
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 10: Starting at the end and maybe we'll work backwards.

1040
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 7: Uh, Watto is the toy Darian?

1041
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Is his species Toydian?

1042
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 10: That is the guy who owns Anakin Skywalker and owns

1043
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 10: the junk yard in episode one.

1044
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 7: That's it?

1045
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, you didn't.

1046
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: Even look that one up.

1047
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 10: That There's no way I had time to look it up.

1048
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 7: It you just called me in wait.

1049
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 2: You knew that he was a toy Darian out of.

1050
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 10: The don't work on me only money? What are you

1051
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 10: waving your head around like you said, sort of Jedi

1052
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 10: or something. I have the movie memorized, so your.

1053
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: Brain is a is a beautiful place. I have to say.

1054
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 2: It's like I.

1055
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: Saw him in my mind, but I couldn't get the

1056
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: race and yeah, the guy with the schnas and.

1057
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks like Gonzo from Yah.

1058
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, it's so rare that I know what's

1059
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: going on. So it's thrilling.

1060
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look this up.

1061
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 10: Shirt.

1062
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I need a shirt that says the guy with the

1063
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: schnas you're you.

1064
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: You are also going to know this one.

1065
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 7: He's blue. He's like light blue.

1066
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: Oh, when you guys did the when you did the voice,

1067
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 5: that's who I picture.

1068
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 6: Don't work on me.

1069
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: I didn't know that one.

1070
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 4: He must have been modeled at They're Gonzo because I

1071
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: know how much because Jim Henson was close, you know what,

1072
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: George Lucas like. Those worlds are very much Koming. I

1073
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 4: would imagine that's like Bonzo must have been some sort

1074
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 4: of inspiration for the design there.

1075
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 10: He's also the only guy on tattooing with the J

1076
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 10: Type three two seven nubiean hyperdrive. I remember that, you guys, Tia,

1077
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 10: you called out Luke Skywalker being a great name. I

1078
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 10: just wanted to point out up through I think the

1079
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 10: third draft of Star Wars his name was Luke's star Killer.

1080
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 7: Which is also.

1081
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 10: Which is also where they pulled Sam Whitwer's name U

1082
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 10: star Killer for the Force and Leash video game, and

1083
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 10: also in episode seven star Killer Basse is from all

1084
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 10: of them. They just keep going back to all the stuff.

1085
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 10: George came up with they'll just keep mining that for

1086
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 10: down the line. Visago. I don't think we see Visago

1087
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 10: lose his horn in animation. It broken Horn is the

1088
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 10: name of his ship, which is probably why it sounds

1089
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 10: so familiar. He lost the horn to a bounty hunter

1090
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 10: known as like the Shade. He had a real name,

1091
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 10: and at that point he changed the name of his

1092
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 10: company from Twin Horn Storage to the Broken Horn.

1093
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 5: Syndicate, Wow Kill very little detail.

1094
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Speaker 10: Continuing to work backwards, a lot of discussion about Fulcrum.

1095
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 10: Fulcrim was originally the name of a subspace frequency that

1096
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 10: Anakin Skywalker used to communicate with Colonel Ularen and Obi

1097
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 10: Wan and Ahsoka during the Clone Wars. So Ahsoka used

1098
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 10: the term Fulcrum referring back to as her code name,

1099
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 10: referring back to this secret communications channel that she used

1100
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 10: to have with Anakin, and so that people in the

1101
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 10: know are in the know. However, Fulcrum is not a

1102
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 10: like Lando's not a system. He's a man, right According

1103
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 10: to Hans Solo, Fulcrum is a person, but it is

1104
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 10: also a position and a code name, and multiple agents

1105
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 10: would use the code name Fulcrum because it would confuse

1106
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 10: the imperials thinking it was a single person rather than

1107
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 10: a network of kind of people who helped organize the rebellion.

1108
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 7: He's this guy.

1109
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 5: Sound like a joke, but that's what I thought. That's

1110
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 5: what I know.

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 6: That's what you said.

1112
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm sorry. I don't want to, you know,

1113
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: like interrupt you.

1114
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 7: You That's why I'm here.

1115
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: Okay.

1116
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: So does that mean that people watching rebels and the

1117
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: first time that Fulkrim is introduced, would they have been

1118
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: able to narrow down who Fulcrum could have been or what.

1119
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 7: Was probably if you were really good, uh liked you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I did not?

1121
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: They have you didn't, then I don't. Yeah.

1122
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 10: But also you know, they start, I think in season two,

1123
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 10: they start using the Ahsoka kind of head markings for

1124
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 10: the Folkroum symbol, which at that point it's it's there. Additionally,

1125
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 10: we were talking about the way that Fulkroum kind of

1126
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 10: moves pieces around the rebellion and the rebellion and how

1127
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 10: that all plays out. We get to see a lot

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00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 10: of that in the show and or and how there

1129
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 10: are all these different rebel cells and each of the

1130
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 10: rebel cells is kind of fronted by like a different person.

1131
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 10: So In Rogue one, if you haven't seen and Or,

1132
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 10: you see Saw Guerrera is kind of in charge of

1133
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 10: his own group of rebels, and all the rebels kind

1134
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 10: of talk to each other, but there's not really central command.

1135
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 10: By the time this airs, we will have seen the

1136
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 10: end of and Or season two, and in and Or

1137
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 10: season two you start to see how becomes a central

1138
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 10: core of leadership in the rebellion that starts trying to

1139
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 10: direct those rebel cells, which then you see they're trying

1140
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 10: to get sawde Gerrera to join in Rogue one, but

1141
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 10: he doesn't want to do it. So there are a

1142
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 10: lot of those. You see one like Lutheran and Andor Sawgerera.

1143
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 10: There's a guy named Anto Krieger that's mentioned in and Or,

1144
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 10: and also you see it in Kenobi with O'Shea Jackson

1145
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 10: Junior's character, little Ice Cubes character named Colin Rocken broken

1146
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 10: in Obi Wan.

1147
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 7: So yes, there are.

1148
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 10: All of these little rebel cells, and by the time

1149
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 10: the Battle of the Aavon happens, they've finally kind of

1150
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 10: been able to centralize command of all of those under

1151
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 10: one leadership of Man Mathma and Janta Donna and Princess

1152
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 10: Leah and.

1153
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 7: People like that.

1154
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 10: Okay, rolling back again, Tia made put me on the spot.

1155
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 10: I have to come up with something good about Mustafar.

1156
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 10: There is so much on Mustafar, like they just went

1157
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 10: deep on it. But the things that I thought were

1158
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 10: most interesting was that George originally called Mustafar that he

1159
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 10: didn't have the R at the end, and it was Mustafa,

1160
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 10: which was a virgin version of an epithet of Mohammad

1161
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 10: and the Koran that means the chosen Hei. And then also, Tia,

1162
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 10: you mentioned that your friends didn't want to go with

1163
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 10: you to an active volcano in the Philippines. I did

1164
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 10: think I would call out that. When they were working

1165
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 10: on Revenge of the Sith, Mount Etna in Italy was erupting,

1166
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,479
Speaker 10: and they went out and filmed actual eruptions of Mount

1167
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 10: Etna in Italy and incorporated it into the landscape of Mustafar.

1168
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: Awesome.

1169
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 10: So that kind of connects to the conversation. John, you

1170
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 10: mentioned the r ig r M droid, which is Visago's droid.

1171
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 10: We heard about those originally in a book called Courtship

1172
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 10: of Princess Leah from Star Wars Legends, which is they're

1173
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 10: modeled after the mcquarie concept art for IG eighty eight.

1174
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 10: And then if they also look familiar in canon, they

1175
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 10: are this. They are built by the same company that

1176
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 10: built General Grievs's Magna droids in Star Wars episode three.

1177
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 10: They're the ones with the staffs that can fight the Lightsaber.

1178
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: They almost looked like the old school like kind of

1179
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 4: figures two and like terminators. Yeah, that's what I thought

1180
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: of Poo when I see him.

1181
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 10: The interrogation droid, the it DH or it DESH zero

1182
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 10: interrogation droid. Just a little interesting fact that I read

1183
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 10: a million years ago about those. George Lucas has type

1184
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 10: two diabetes and needs insulin injections, and he had actually

1185
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 10: been drafted to Vietnam, I believe, but couldn't go because

1186
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 10: he had diabetes. And so there is a lot of

1187
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 10: thought that the needle, the hypodermic needle on that droid

1188
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 10: was George subconsciously referencing back to his always having to

1189
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 10: take insulin shots.

1190
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 7: WHOA, all right, this is.

1191
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 10: ATDP tracing it all the way to Atst.

1192
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 7: John or Taylor.

1193
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 10: You mentioned that the first time we see them as

1194
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 10: in Return of the Jedi, which is not actually true.

1195
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 10: Your first time you see it is there's a single

1196
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 10: shot in profile of an ATST on hawth An Empire.

1197
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 7: That's the first time you see it.

1198
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 10: If you want to know more about that and the

1199
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 10: differences between the ATSD on Hawk and the ATST in

1200
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 10: Return of the Jedi, Adam Savage on his tested YouTube

1201
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 10: channel has this great model build where he talks about

1202
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 10: the differences between the Empire ATSD and the Return of

1203
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 10: the Jedi ATAT or ats T, namely that the Empire

1204
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 10: strikes back. They knew they were shooting in profile, and

1205
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 10: so they only modeled out one side of it. The

1206
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 10: other side is kind of like blank panels in very

1207
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 10: low detail, and one side is high detail. Anyway, for

1208
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 10: all of you super nerds out there, there's a little

1209
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 10: bit about the ATST history. ATDP, which is what we

1210
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 10: see in this episode is the All Terrain Defense Pod

1211
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 10: features one heavy laser cannon. There's a driver and a gunner.

1212
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 10: The driver sits behind the gunner, which is the precursor

1213
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 10: to the All Terrain Reconnaissance Transport which is at RT,

1214
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 10: which is used by the Republic. It's used for ground support,

1215
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 10: police support, civil defense, post battle cleanup, or when bigger

1216
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 10: vehicles can't access difficult terrain. You can identify the at

1217
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 10: RT because it is it doesn't have a cockpit. It's open,

1218
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 10: so you're kind of like it's more like a bicycle

1219
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 10: with two legs that goes into the ATAC, which is

1220
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 10: all terrain armored cannon, which has one set of chin

1221
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 10: mounted dual cannons. It's really bulky and is then the

1222
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 10: kind of like bridge piece into the ATST, which we

1223
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 10: all know. ATST is a gyro stabilized walker which you

1224
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 10: get to witness on endoor a little bit. The head

1225
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 10: turns two hundred and forty degrees, so it can really

1226
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 10: like scan around. There's a twin blaster on the chin,

1227
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 10: there's a blaster on the cheek, a grenade launcher on

1228
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 10: the other cheek, and it was built to be nimble,

1229
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 10: and it sacrificed power and armor to be kind of

1230
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:24,479
Speaker 10: the best of all the previous at ST iterations, which

1231
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 10: is why it was so easy for primitive people to

1232
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 10: kind of knock it down.

1233
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 5: Can you repeat that last bit?

1234
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 6: I got? But still no rear guns, no rear.

1235
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 7: No rear guns.

1236
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 10: And then also there are like twenty different variations of

1237
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 10: the ATST, which I'm not going to get into here.

1238
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 10: It's like trying to get into the you know, a

1239
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 10: different version of a BMW where it's like it's an

1240
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 10: M three super it's an M four.

1241
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 7: Like anyway, a lot of different versions.

1242
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 6: Of at giving us a spinoff idea, we'll do like.

1243
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 5: A talk here American graffiti.

1244
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 6: We can just George Lucas.

1245
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: There you go.

1246
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: I think jac you gave us an idea for like

1247
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 4: a spinoff bonus series of like top Gy or Star

1248
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: Wars version.

1249
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 6: Yes, I have a new show that I'll host.

1250
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: I have a lot to say about it.

1251
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 6: All Right, we got We're going to green Lay right now.

1252
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 10: Very if we If you guys can all remember to

1253
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 10: the beginning of the episode, Taylor mentioned something about the

1254
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 10: bad guys in Star Wars being English, which is yes,

1255
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 10: they basically are the in universe. Popular explanation for that

1256
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 10: pre Disney was that you didn't have any women in

1257
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 10: the Imperial Navy, and you didn't have any aliens or

1258
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 10: people of color in the Imperial Navy because the Empire

1259
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 10: was a reflection of like Nazi Germany, which has an

1260
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 10: intolerance for anybody that's not that doesn't look exactly and

1261
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 10: speak exactly like they do. And then if you look

1262
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 10: at like the Rebellion, and that was part of the

1263
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 10: big thing in Return of the Jedi, with the mon

1264
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 10: Kalamari and all the aliens joining the rebellion. It was

1265
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 10: like all of the people that were oppressed came together

1266
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 10: put aside their physical differences for the good of the galaxy.

1267
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 10: Also Thron, who shows up in Star Wars Rebels in

1268
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 10: season three, when he was invented back in nineteen ninety

1269
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 10: one by Timothy z On, there's a big backstory about

1270
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 10: how Thron was a big deal because he was in

1271
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 10: Imperial but an alien who ascended the ranks because he

1272
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 10: was so brilliant. So if you go way back on Thron,

1273
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 10: like I do, when he shows up in Rebels in

1274
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 10: a couple of seasons, that's a really big deal because

1275
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 10: he was able to he was so brilliant, he was

1276
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 10: able to ascend beyond his alien skin to.

1277
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 7: To a high rank of Grand amirle in the Imperial Navy.

1278
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 7: Glee Star Wars.

1279
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 10: The first Star Wars was shot in England, in the UK,

1280
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 10: and so all of the extras they cast and the

1281
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 10: people for the small day player roles were British, and

1282
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 10: that's probably the actual reason why. But you know, like

1283
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 10: Phil Brown, who played Uncle Owen in A New Hope

1284
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 10: was I'm not sure if he was British. I know

1285
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 10: he was part of the McCarthy witch hunt in the

1286
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 10: fifties and so he left Hollywood to go over there,

1287
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 10: and so I don't know if he has a British accent,

1288
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 10: but I knew he had lived over there, So perhaps

1289
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 10: there was some direction that like, hey, you shouldn't speak

1290
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 10: with a British accent.

1291
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 7: We're going to keep that for the bad guys.

1292
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: And now with our tariff on movies, they're all going

1293
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: to be sorry.

1294
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: I also sorry, am I interrupting you?

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Speaker 7: No go, I've got two more things.

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Speaker 2: I'll try and be quick. But I was just gonna say, also, Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: we have this, uh, from from the time that talkies began,

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Speaker 2: like well forget talkies, but like you know, when it's

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Speaker 2: like a time gone by, like Gladiator, they're all they

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Speaker 2: all speak with English accents. Why because it's it's never

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Speaker 2: it's a long long ago in a far off place

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Speaker 2: like everybody. That's like for American audiences, it takes it

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Speaker 2: like transports us to a different time, a different place.

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Speaker 2: They all speak in English accents, even if it's historically

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Speaker 2: completely wildly and accurate. That's like it we go, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is not here and now. And so I feel like,

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Speaker 2: aside from the practicality of them shooting in England and

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Speaker 2: having a whole bunch of English actors, I think there's

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Speaker 2: also that that, like not to say that that's like

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Speaker 2: why they're all bad guys, but there is something about

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Speaker 2: like the idea of an English accent for an American

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Speaker 2: audience kind of transports us.

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Speaker 4: I'm laughing because you brought up Gladier and it makes

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Speaker 4: me appreciate Denzel Washington even more. And Glady She's like.

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Speaker 6: No, no, you're gonna be gladyer. I'm gonna talk like this, Yeah,

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 6: gonna make me be British.

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Speaker 2: That first line of that movie, well, his first line,

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Speaker 2: where what does he say about, like, oh, John, you

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Speaker 2: your brain is also a beautiful place. His very first line.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of like, how's it going to sound?

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Speaker 2: And then it sounded just exactly like I thought it was,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh wow.

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Speaker 5: It's like Macbeth. Macbeth.

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Speaker 6: He has that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, real quick, I know we're side questing, but I

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Speaker 4: met Denzel really briefly at like an offensive screening years ago,

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Speaker 4: and I got a chance to just talk with him,

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Speaker 4: like really quick and I know enough about Denzel, like

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Speaker 4: don't try to kiss his ass, like he doesn't like that.

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Speaker 4: Just be real with them and like be an authentic person.

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Speaker 4: I just said, look, I just asked him really quickly,

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Speaker 4: you doing doing the stage production now directing this and

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Speaker 4: starring in it?

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Speaker 6: Like what was transferable? What wasn't?

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Speaker 4: And did you did you how did you prepare? And

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 4: he just looks at me and goes, you know, here's

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 4: the thing. Just don't overthink it. You do work, you prepare,

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Speaker 4: you let it happen, and that's it. And I said,

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Speaker 4: I love that. That's some of the best advice I've

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Speaker 4: ever gotten. And it was just like a really fleeting moment.

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Speaker 4: I said, I said thank you, sorry, I appreciate it,

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Speaker 4: and he was just like, all right, you take care now,

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Speaker 4: and that was it.

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Speaker 6: He was super cool.

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Speaker 4: But the other people that were trying to be too

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01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 4: showy with him, you can see him he doesn't care

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Speaker 4: for that. But I was just like I just got

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01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 4: straight to Pom like, hey, whoop from this made this?

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Speaker 4: And then he's like don't overthink it. And I was like,

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01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: all right, that's always going to stick with me.

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, my last couple of things. And we went from

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Speaker 10: like order of most important the least important. Here, John

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Speaker 10: in his summary up at the top made it Johnny

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Speaker 10: five reference. Just for those of you who are born

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Speaker 10: post two thousand listening to this, there's.

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Speaker 5: A movie called Johnny five.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a.

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01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 10: Movie called Short Circuit which there Johnny five is a

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01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 10: sentient robot that was built who kind of is Wally

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Speaker 10: esque in terms of the way his eyes move and express,

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Speaker 10: which was a really really big movie that spawned a sequel.

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Speaker 10: I believe Steve Gutenberg was in from Police Academy.

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Speaker 6: He was in the first one.

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Speaker 7: He was in the first one.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And then John also mentioned Bo Knows, which is Bo

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01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 10: Jackson reverence. So Bo Jackson jack who did John reference

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 10: Bo Jackson who did a Bo nos campaign for Nike

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Speaker 10: in nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety because Bo Jackson

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 10: was the most prominent athlete since Jim Thorpe to play

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 10: both baseball and football professionally and was promoting a line

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 10: of uh, I think what at the time were like

1374
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 10: cross trainer shoes, whereas you can wear these shoes for

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 10: baseball or basketball or football. And bow knew everything. You know,

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01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 10: Does Bo know how to archery?

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 7: Yes? Does Bou know how to make lemonade? Yes? That

1378
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 7: was the whole Bo Jackson knew everything for two years.

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01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 4: It's funny. He's like an expert archer. No, Like he

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 4: looks at Hoago and he shoots art.

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Wait, are you being serious? Y?

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 4: Yes, watches thirty for thirty at the end like he's

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01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: shooting arrows and he's precise every single time.

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 6: Wow, like Marksman.

1386
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy can do anything. It's like Deep Bradley

1387
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: Baker and Steve Bloom.

1388
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 4: Let's get Let's get Bo Jackson de Bradley Baker and Steve.

1389
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 6: See what happens Bono's voiceover all.

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01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 10: Of a sudden, Man, do you know Bo did kind

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 10: of no voiceover. I'm sure he didn't do the voice.

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01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 10: But there was a cartoon in the eighties called pro

1393
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,440
Speaker 10: Stars that was Michael Jackson, Way Gretz Game Bo Jackson

1394
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 10: as Superheroes ran for one season.

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: You know how like your brain, the smart the more information,

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01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: the more folds there are in your brain. Is that

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: did I just make that up? Let's say, yeah, say

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 2: that's correct. The folds in your noggin like that, I

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,480
Speaker 2: just am. I just marvel at the amount of information

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: that not only is stored up there, but that you're

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01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: able to access because there's stuff up here, but getting

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: it out is.

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 10: You know the joke between my wife and I when

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 10: I like pull a fact in the real world, She'll go, yeah,

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 10: but when when's my birthday?

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 9: Right?

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 7: That's her That's the joke.

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, Well, thank you for sharing your breath

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01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: of knowledge with us.

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 6: Yes, we all always our idea more.

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 4: That's all I got, Okay, to make sure always I'm

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 4: like back to Johnny five. Johnny Five's whole thing is

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01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: he always wants input, so like that he would be

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: feeding my brain, which you know we probably will once

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01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 4: we're done recording.

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 6: But Jays appreciate you as always.

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: We always feel so much smarter and well versed in

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01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 4: the Star Wars universe thanks to you, and I know

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 4: our listeners do too, because again there's a reason why

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01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 4: a lot of the messages we get they make sure

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01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: to mention that the JC pac check is their favorite,

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 4: and we definitely share that sent.

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01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: Guys, we get it.

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 5: At the end of this entire podcast, I'm going on

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 5: a trivia show for Star Wars and I'm going to

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 5: see if any of this stuck.

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01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: Listen out of nowhere. And I was very impressed. I mean,

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01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: you did put it half, but still it was in

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 2: there and you got it out.

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01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of a lot of folds.

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 4: The promo for that is going to be like the

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01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: Harvard Bar scene and good while Hunting were of course,

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 4: it's your contention. You're probably reading the tim of these

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 4: on novel. But here's the thing. You're going to get

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 4: to this and then you're going to be convinced that

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: to right now you're gonna you're gonna have that sort

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01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 4: of monologue.

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm looking.

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you like them?

1441
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 6: And that's what that'll be here. How do you like them? Apples?

1442
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: I love it.

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01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 10: We did Stars trivia from May the fourth at the

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01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 10: Bar and uh two of my favorite queste. One of

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 10: the rounds we did like aliases and one of them

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01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 10: was Jaba the Hut and Jaba the Hut isn't his

1447
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 10: actual name. He has like a long patise name. But

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01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 10: we accepted two answers. One of them was Jaba Tesla

1449
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 10: did whatever his name is, and the other was Ezra

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01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 10: Bridger and then another alias was Agent Meilu run through zeb.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, Yeah, oh, that's incredible. The very rebels rebels

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: coded trivia.

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 10: There's a lot of rebel. Yeah, there's a lot of

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,959
Speaker 10: rebels this year in the trivia. I wonder what.

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01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 6: Okay, So you weren't done? Like you see, there's always more.

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 4: We always are keep going and there's always gonna be

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Speaker 4: more with us too, because next week is gonna be

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Speaker 4: the episode of the season one finale, Fire across the Galaxy.

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Speaker 4: We're leading up to this very big moment, and so

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Speaker 4: coming weeks twos, but you never know who it is.

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Speaker 4: season one finale. We love maybe some of your overall

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Speaker 4: thoughts on season one as a whole and then we'll

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Speaker 4: do another bonus episode. Well we'll answer some of your

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