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Speaker 2: What I was gonna say, that was probably shortly after

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Speaker 1: Right, that's right, Well, when I got my new phone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why we need to bring that up, girl.

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Speaker 2: So Chris, I went down, sir, just go get Mandy.

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Speaker 1: I just come out, I live in for Helona now.

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Speaker 2: Nice breath. I mean, it's your reason or visit. Come on,

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Speaker 1: Well, y'all just go start traveling and just see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there was a point where before we

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Speaker 2: we literally explored anse I could. Yeah, I should be.

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Speaker 1: The highways out there and wherever you be going.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's probably the easiest way to practice, Right's probably

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Speaker 2: the easiest way to practice driving is to take road trips.

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Speaker 1: When's the first thing I thought of when you said

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Speaker 1: Almostad that white girl who got killed?

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Speaker 1: She lost her life. So he was like, anyway, go

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Speaker 2: Sometimes when he'll be dropping me crazy and we have

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Speaker 1: Any major life updates for you, Chris.

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Speaker 3: B Mmm, major life updates?

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Speaker 1: Well you know updates, business updates.

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Speaker 3: Uh, family of dates, little boys in the world. I

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Speaker 2: Boost?

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Speaker 3: He is I got to go hang out with them

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Speaker 3: I gained so much more respect. I was so tired,

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Speaker 1: Can I hold it?

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Speaker 3: I always try to touch a soft spot. Like her

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, She's like, can I get some peace?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you need it. I see it. I

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Speaker 3: see it. You need it because truly, truly, I know

436
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Speaker 3: that was a big and uh oh, other than that,

437
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Speaker 3: I told you about having new podcasts. I'll be launching soon.

438
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Speaker 3: I don't think I told you about this. It's coming

439
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Speaker 3: out in maybe a couple of weeks and we'll kind

440
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Speaker 3: of get everything done.

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Speaker 1: But another one, I was gonna say, what's happening with

442
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Speaker 1: popcorn finance? Is it on the It's.

443
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Speaker 3: Been on a hiatus, but I'm all working on bringing

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Speaker 3: that back. But I have a okay, not permanent. I

445
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Speaker 3: do want to bring it back. It's just depressing, as

446
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Speaker 3: you know, working on it.

447
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Speaker 1: It's depressing.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's more so like because you it's

449
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: about personal finance and they have to kind of dip

450
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Speaker 3: into the world and see what's going on, and so

451
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Speaker 3: much of the personal finance news is about what the

452
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Speaker 3: person who's leading the country is kind of changing and

453
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Speaker 3: doing things, and it's like it's always something. It was

454
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Speaker 3: really hard to kind of dive into it at times

455
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Speaker 3: because you're like, you try to keep some type of

456
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Speaker 3: peace going on in your brain. In the moment you

457
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: open up any news, you're like, oh, this is this

458
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Speaker 3: is what's going on, and I kind of find myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna love today show.

460
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Speaker 3: Oh I saw it. I was like, oh, thanks, Mandy,

461
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Speaker 3: this is the most.

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Speaker 1: Well y'all need to make it because I'm going there

463
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Speaker 1: because I'm we're not We're not skipping the big news.

464
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine. I think the problem with doing

465
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Speaker 1: a show like Popcorn Finance and even Brown Ambition when

466
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Speaker 1: I was on my own, well, I wasn't really on

467
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Speaker 1: my own, but even with just just me and Tiffany,

468
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Speaker 1: it sucks to have to read stuff by yourself into

469
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Speaker 1: Like I think that's my challenge too.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are like scrolling on

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Speaker 1: our phone and looking at the news and reading it

473
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Speaker 1: on an individual basis. By talking about difficult, challenging topics

474
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Speaker 1: here on Brown Ambition, like I'm really just inviting y'all

475
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Speaker 1: like you Chris and Yanelly and also be a fan,

476
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Speaker 1: just like hold hands and let's just look at this

477
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Speaker 1: shit together because they do think we need to.

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Speaker 3: Write yep, yeah, because you have to know what's going on.

479
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Speaker 3: But yeah, but it is right. It's so much easier,

480
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you can call it easier, but talking

481
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Speaker 3: about it with other people versus in that isolation, because

482
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Speaker 3: it's so easy to kind of just like it kind

483
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: of overtakes you a little bit when you're by yourself

484
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Speaker 3: in it.

485
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Speaker 1: It was hard to pulling podcast space either, where like

486
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Speaker 1: I don't. It also can feel stressful, maybe because of

487
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Speaker 1: the work that we do. Sometimes when you talk about

488
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, you feel like you need to

489
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Speaker 1: be an expert on it before you open your mouth.

490
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Speaker 1: And I feel like the approach now that I'm I'm

491
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Speaker 1: like giving myself a lot of grace to just talk

492
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Speaker 1: about things that are happening and not feel like I'm

493
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Speaker 1: not capable or like I'm not worthy of discussing it

494
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Speaker 1: until I can like give you an expose on it.

495
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Speaker 1: I really just want to bear witness. You know, we

496
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Speaker 1: can talk about how we're feeling about it, and we

497
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Speaker 1: can also just give Brown Ambition, like give y'all a

498
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Speaker 1: safe space where you're not the only one you're not

499
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Speaker 1: going to open up your Instagram and see shit, you know,

500
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Speaker 1: like the like when I logged on yesterday and saw

501
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Speaker 1: what I saw, Some man got shot in the chest,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, outside of a kind of tourist attraction on

503
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Speaker 1: the West was it Seattle? Without the Instagram warning it

504
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Speaker 1: was no this this image may distribute. It was just boom,

505
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Speaker 1: here's a man getting shot in the chest, like this

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Speaker 1: Brown Ambition, Like, I'm hoping we can we can talk

507
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Speaker 1: about some stuff I do want to get into what's

508
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Speaker 1: going on in the world and your pocketbooks and your finances.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that makes sense with Wait, so, Chris, you said

510
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Speaker 2: you were going to put out a new episode of

511
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Speaker 2: this next podcast. Tell us about that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So the one thing I've been thinking about

513
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: was that I think I told you about the sleep podcast.

514
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: It's this thing you used to fall asleep, and it

515
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Speaker 3: kind of came I did came to me because I

516
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Speaker 3: got the endpoint in life. I I was feeling like

517
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Speaker 3: really like down and like you know, Manday and I

518
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: talked about this, like being like like that depression starts

519
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Speaker 3: to can like overwhelm me and so it makes it

520
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Speaker 3: hard to go to sleep. And I was like, what

521
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Speaker 3: if there's like I started finding things to listen to

522
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Speaker 3: to help me fall asleep, would just be like random podcasts.

523
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Speaker 3: I didn't really I'd already listened to you or whatever

524
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Speaker 3: it was. And then I found out there was a

525
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Speaker 3: whole like genre podcasts that do this, And so that's

526
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Speaker 3: why I've been kind of like working on over the

527
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Speaker 3: past couple of months. It's like these different ideas, testing

528
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Speaker 3: them out, and I kind of finally narrowed down the concept,

529
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Speaker 3: a few tests, and so now I'm getting ready to

530
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Speaker 3: actually officially launch it. So it'll be coming out next

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Speaker 3: like i'd say, like a couple of weeks is my

532
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Speaker 3: goal for like the first episode to kind of hit

533
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Speaker 3: out there for everybody.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, what's it called?

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Speaker 3: Oh so the name which started out as a joke

536
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Speaker 3: and then people are like, no, just name it this.

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Speaker 3: It's called Talk Sleepy to Me is the name of

538
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Speaker 3: the podcast. Oh.

539
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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I hope we have a trailer up in the next

542
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Speaker 3: like by this week, have the trailer out at least,

543
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Speaker 3: and then the first episode in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Nice, how are you going to get the word out

545
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Speaker 1: of the trailers? Just putting us all to sleep?

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Speaker 3: I know that's the proof. If I can put you

547
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Speaker 3: to sleep in like two minutes and you're like, Okay,

548
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Speaker 3: this is not bad.

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Speaker 2: This listen people struggle so much of falling asleep. I

550
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Speaker 2: really do feel like this is necessary because even now,

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Speaker 2: like I listen to some meditation podcasts when I'm going

552
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Speaker 2: to sleep, but it's just like sometimes it'll it'll start

553
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Speaker 2: making me think about things, because like what she's saying

554
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Speaker 2: will start making me go down the rabbit hole. I

555
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Speaker 2: need something that is really literally just going to make

556
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Speaker 2: me go oh, fall asleep immediately rather than going down

557
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Speaker 2: thinking about things. So I'm excited for this because I

558
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Speaker 2: feel like I'll use it and then I will immediately

559
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Speaker 2: post me back and let you know, because I'm always

560
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Speaker 2: looking for something to help me fall. I'll listen to

561
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Speaker 2: audiobooks and stuff, but then i'll put the sleep timer.

562
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Speaker 2: But I don't want my mind to be thinking about,

563
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Speaker 2: you know, these characters and their problems, like I'm trying

564
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Speaker 2: to This is something that is brainless. I'm going to sleep,

565
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Speaker 2: you know. That's that's what I need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's it going to be?

567
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Speaker 1: What are you going to say?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a little sample people sample. So essentially it's

569
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Speaker 3: like these first person stories of you going through a space.

570
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Speaker 3: So it's meant to be very calm and relaxing, like

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Speaker 3: it's not you don't have to think about it too much,

572
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Speaker 3: and where it's just you going through. Maybe it's like

573
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Speaker 3: a field or a garden or by the lake, and

574
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Speaker 3: it's going to describe what you're coming across as you go,

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Speaker 3: so as you you know, you see something, and then

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Speaker 3: there's sound effects of like the water or the wind.

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Speaker 1: Or uh a, you're gonna like have sound effects.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My whole thing is I want to do a

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Speaker 3: lot of sound design around it, so it kind of

580
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Speaker 3: puts you in the space. So it's like some calm

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Speaker 3: background music and then a few sounds. That's what I've

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Speaker 3: been testing out, like what sounds are actually calming and

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Speaker 3: which ones are like now it breaks me out of

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Speaker 3: this and I'm like this is too jarring. So it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like figuring it out that balance between everything.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's supposed to be something that's like interesting

587
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Speaker 3: enough that you're like, Okay, I want to hear what's

588
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Speaker 3: going on, but not so interesting that you your break.

589
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Speaker 3: Like I was saying, your brain's going and you got

590
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Speaker 3: to wake back up to pay attention. So try to

591
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Speaker 3: find that balance in there.

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Speaker 2: Nice. I'm excited for it. I would definitely be a

593
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Speaker 2: test user, an early user. I'm gonna tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: I'll sleeping to me. I don't know, I'll see it

595
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Speaker 1: might because I'll just feel just be like your voice

596
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Speaker 1: and I'll just be like dude.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Chris right now, like they're going to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for a new Yeah, like something new

600
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Speaker 1: and fresh and different, and we could all use more

601
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Speaker 1: sleep honestly.

602
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right.

603
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Speaker 1: I'm about to get a sleep study in a cup

604
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Speaker 1: and a week or two? What day is it? A

605
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Speaker 1: week or two? A sleep study? Yeah, I might need

606
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Speaker 1: to get one of them seepap machines.

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Speaker 2: The way they have them now, you can barely even

608
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Speaker 2: feel them or see them or hear them, so really yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like one of my coworkers did a sleep study and

610
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Speaker 2: ended up needing a PAP and then when they get

611
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Speaker 2: to see PAP machine. The first early ones were like

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Speaker 2: those big on your face and it makes all this noise.

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00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: But now they have ones that are like minimally invasive.

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Speaker 2: It's just literally like a little clear strip that goes

615
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: under your note or like a clear too that goes

616
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Speaker 2: right under your nose. It just like pushes the air

617
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: into your nose, so you're not so you're it doesn't

618
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: really make any noise. You barely feel it. It's not

619
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Speaker 2: like this giant thing, so it doesn't really affect if

620
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: you're coo sleeping your partner and like barely makes noise.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like they've come really far, so I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be worried about Oh, I'm gonna have this whole

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Speaker 2: seat path. No, the ones they have now are like, really,

624
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Speaker 2: you can deal with it.

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Speaker 1: I'll take them. I just want to sleep. I just

626
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: want to sleep. I need it so bad, I think honestly,

627
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: my level of irritation and like snippiness is so tied

628
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Speaker 1: to the fact that I am not sleeping well. So

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes, baby, I need to sleep, sleep and

630
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Speaker 1: self care. And this is how we take care of ourselves.

631
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Speaker 1: This is how we like become stronger and more resilience

632
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Speaker 1: against all the shit that's going down.

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Speaker 2: People always do the wrong thing too. Like my boyfriend,

634
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Speaker 2: he's really big until like sleep, health and longevity and

635
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: all that stuff. So he had an Orra ring. Like

636
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: before it was a cool thing to do. And on

637
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: the oral ring it tracks in the app every time

638
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: when you're going to sleep, what are the behaviors that

639
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: you do. Obviously you have to put it in, but

640
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: he realized right away if we go out to dinner

641
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: and you have a glass of wine that night, your

642
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: sleep quality is significantly decreased versus a night where you

643
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: didn't have anything to drink before but a couple hours

644
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: before bed, or even like at all during the day

645
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: when you exercise, literally, your sleep quality improves so much

646
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: because you hit the bed and you're just like you're out.

647
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: So it's funny because a lot of people will go, oh,

648
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Speaker 2: I really want to sleep better, so I'm not going

649
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: to work out because them men have to get up early.

650
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Speaker 2: So instead I'm going to sleep in a little longer

651
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: and get extra sleep. It's like, actually, you're making your

652
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: sleep worse because you're not working out. And then the

653
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: other thing is, oh, I'm going to have a glass

654
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: of wine because it helps me chill out and fall asleep. No,

655
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: the wine is actually going to make your sleep worse.

656
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: So oftentimes we do things that are counterintuitive le we

657
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: think is counterintuitive. What we're doing is actually working against

658
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: the ability to get better sleep. And a lot of

659
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: it is actually just your routines, which I know sucks

660
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: because it always comes back to the consistency of it.

661
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: But like going to sleep at the exact same time

662
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: and waking up at the exact same time every single day,

663
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: that alone is like enough to drastically improve your sleep

664
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Speaker 2: quality because we crave that like same time every night,

665
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: same time every morning routine, and especially if you're going

666
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: to bed early enough that your body can wake up

667
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: with the sun. I'm not there yet, but I'm working

668
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: on it. But that also has a huge impact on

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Speaker 2: your sleep. And then the last thing I learned from

670
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Speaker 2: him with the our experimenting with the our is the temperature.

671
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: A lot of times for me like I need to

672
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: be real warm when I'm going to sleep, He's like, no,

673
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: you need to be cold. You need the room has

674
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: to be cold, your space has to be cold. It's

675
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: okay for you to be under covers, but if the

676
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: room is too warm, your quality of sleep decreases drastically,

677
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: so you actually have to be in a cooler room,

678
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: like under seventy, like sixty eight, sixty nine degrees. That

679
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: to me is like torture. But apparently that's what works.

680
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: So he's throwing that out there if anybody wants to

681
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: try these things out.

682
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: All the advice I know, but it does not.

683
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Apply to me, doesn't work for me. None of it.

684
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: Not a damn one.

685
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: And we'll see.

686
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna have a two year old smacking

687
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: me in the face with my with my c PAP tube. Mama,

688
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: what is mama toy? I want one. I'm a spider

689
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: Man mask boom, We'll see. Pray for me. Take that.

690
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: I know it's tough. It's so tough. Well, should we

691
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: get into some what's happening in the world. I know, Chris,

692
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: you all the way over there in LA. Not in LA,

693
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: but in California. But here on the East Coast, we're

694
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: falling apart.

695
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: I would some videos.

696
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so we're gonna talk of the DC takeover.

697
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I was trying to It's only week two of Trump's

698
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: what state of emergency unleashed the National Guard take direct

699
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: control of the police force in DC. We're on week two, Okay,

700
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: else has been raining. I dipped my toe into I

701
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: wanted a bit more context and like just the clips

702
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: I was seeing on TikTok so, I actually got onto

703
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: YouTube and there's a lot of actually great like street

704
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: reporting happening from organizers and community activists. But just to

705
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: update y'all, there's fifteen hundred National Guard troops now in DC,

706
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: including federal agents from FBI, ICE and DEA. I have

707
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: a family member who works for the ATF and he

708
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: actually told me that they offered him time and a

709
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: half to go to DC. And he was like, you

710
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: just had a baby. He's like, yeah, I want to go,

711
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: and I was like cool. So we're adding a cash

712
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: incentive on top of that.

713
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Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. You know, we're trying to save money right.

714
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Right costs by paying people more to do the things

715
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: that we really don't need. Make it makes sense.

716
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: So they're citing the issues that they're trying to fight crime, homelessness,

717
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: and so it saw some really sad images of like

718
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Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of who knows which like

719
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: law enforcement group it was, but people kicking tents over,

720
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, tents from unhoused people, and it's all again

721
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: to fight crime, homelessness and violent crime in DC, which

722
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: is actually at a historic low.

723
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Speaker 2: You don't fight homelessness by kicking tents over, you provide housing.

724
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: I just you know, it just doesn't. It doesn't in

725
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: what world does it make sense? Like it's deja vu.

726
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: It's like over policing majority black populations in cities, and

727
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: it feels, especially as a Latina with immigrant parents, like

728
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: this is exactly the type of authoritarianism that we like

729
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: migrated away from by coming to this country. And it's

730
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: it's like the most bizarre thing because it's time and

731
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: time Again, if you look throughout history, over militarizing does

732
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: not yield the result that you think it does. It

733
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: actually ends up leading to more crime, to more poverty,

734
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: to worse results because you're not actually addressing the root

735
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: causes of those things that you claim to be trying

736
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: to alleviate by over policing. So it just it's the

737
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: most frustrating thing to hear, Oh, we're gonna address directly

738
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: homelessness by coming in and kicking people's tents over when

739
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: what you need to do is provide affordable housing. I mean,

740
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: in what world do people like hear this news and

741
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: like celebrate that as the right approach, Like it just

742
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: it's so bizarre to me because I know there's millions

743
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: of people, but you know, I live in Florida. A

744
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: lot of people over here who see this and celebrate

745
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: it and think that it makes sense, And I don't.

746
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: My brain can't fathom how it could make sense to you, Like,

747
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense.

748
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Speaker 1: Awesome. I mean, I'm not gonna paint with a broadbrush,

749
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: but there's definitely people from my husband's family, and like

750
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: I've heard people on the news from immigrant backgrounds who

751
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: are like very pro Trump.

752
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

753
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Came in the right way. Everyone else should to one

754
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Speaker 1: hundred percent.

755
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: And it's not even just I came in the right way,

756
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people who didn't come in

757
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: the right way who still support it because they now

758
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: are unquote safe. So it's really selfish as hell. Also,

759
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: anybody who's curious about this, especially in light to like

760
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: a lot of immigration issues and Latin American countries and

761
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: the history with authoritarian dictatorships, I would highly recommend reading

762
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: the book called Defectors. It is so good it really helps.

763
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: It helped me understand why so many Latinos in the

764
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: US have been supportive of Trump. One of the main

765
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: ideas that stuck with me was how much of this

766
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: like in my mind, I think back to Dominican Republic.

767
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: We had a really bad dictator, Druhido, who was extremely

768
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Speaker 2: racist and anti black, and so a lot of times

769
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Speaker 2: when people talk about, oh, well Dominicans they don't like

770
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: being called black and stuff, you have to understand that

771
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: this stuff is deeply rooted and been passed down from

772
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: generation to generation because of this dictator through Heido, who

773
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: would literally send troops out into the streets to question

774
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: you about your pronunciation in Spanish if you looked black,

775
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: if you were you know, black feenal type, and then

776
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: if you couldn't pronounce it properly the Spanish way, they

777
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: would they would kill you in the streets with machetes. Okay,

778
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: this was this is literally the history that we So

779
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 2: when you, when your great great grandparents grew up in that,

780
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: they're going to say anything they can to not affiliate

781
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: themselves with blackness, because they can die if they claim

782
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: to be black or if they're associated with blackness because

783
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: of thru Hidio. So anybody who wants to learn about that,

784
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: highly recommend you search it up online. It's called the

785
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: Parsley massacre because the word Parsley in Spanish just pronounced

786
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: pete Hill. And if you can't say bedehiel the right way,

787
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: quote unquote right way, you you would there was literally

788
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: a massacre for it. There would just be dead black

789
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: bodies on the street to show people this is what

790
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: happens when you're when you're not Dominican, when you're not

791
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: Spaniard enough, when you're not whatever through Hidio wanted people

792
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: to be, and that has been ingrained generation to generation.

793
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: Is fear.

794
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: So people will say, oh, but why y'alls anti black?

795
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: It's like it is a fear that was literally that

796
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: you would were going to die if you are associated

797
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: with blackness. So that is huge in dr but let

798
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: alone think of other countries like Colombia Venezuela, where there's

799
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: there's so much history of anti blackness through violence and

800
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: authoritarian like dictatorships. So that book helped me at least

801
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: understand where some of it, not saying that it's justifiable,

802
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: not sying that I agree with any of it, but

803
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: for my brain to be like, how the hell did

804
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: this happen? How did we get to this? That book

805
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: really shed light on kind of like the thought process

806
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: on that side and how they identified Trump as like

807
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: a leader who they are familiar with that type of

808
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: leadership because it looks a lot like what they've seen

809
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: in the past in their home countries.

810
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Speaker 1: America is a very safe place to be anti black,

811
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Like we make it very hospitable, hospitable to the racists.

812
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can I think that if that's the like,

813
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: if that's the way that you sway, then you're going

814
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: to find your people, You're going to find your enclave

815
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: you're going to find your communities and it's it's a

816
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: fucking tragedy but it's sad, sad but true.

817
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but thanks for mentioning that I saved all that

818
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 3: step ago read later.

819
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And if you want to talk about it,

820
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: hit me up because I've been like trying to see

821
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: who else is reading the factors so I can talk

822
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: about it with people because I'm like mind blown.

823
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: I might share with my husband because yeah, the number

824
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: of times my mother in law has said some bullshit

825
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: to me, I don't boundaries.

826
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Speaker 2: Yes, the author for that book is Paola Ramos if yeah,

827
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: she's blown up on Instagram right now because she's doing

828
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of interviews with like news about the book.

829
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, Defectors by Paola Ramos highly recommend it.

830
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Speaker 1: So there was one sort of bright spot that well,

831
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: not really a bright spot, but I was trying to

832
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: find I found some like joy from watching it. Started

833
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: out when I saw a TikTok of like a young woman,

834
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: a young black woman with like multicolored braids. She had

835
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: like the I'm so sorry, what is the scarf called

836
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: from Palestine? Do you know what it's called?

837
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: Oh, the checkered one. Yeah, I know you're talking about it.

838
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm blamed. She's waving one of those. But she

839
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: was released from she was leaving a courthouse. She had

840
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: been held overnight in jail, and they were all like

841
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: chanting her name and she and I was like, what

842
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: happened to this girl? Like why is she? And she

843
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: was being lifted up by the crowd, And anytime I

844
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: see a black girl being happy, I was like, I

845
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: need to learn more. So it turns out her name

846
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: is afeni and Afeenie was arrested. She's actually a community activist.

847
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: She works with this nonprofit called Harriet's Wildest Dreams, and

848
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: so a lot of Harriet's Wildest Dreams members they have

849
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: like big beautiful earrings with Harriet's face and that iconic

850
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: silhouette on it. So they had been because of the

851
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: curfew installed in DC. They were Harriet's Wallowedest Dreams volunteers

852
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: were like hanging out at the metro stations to see

853
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: if any youth were going to be arrested or like,

854
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, just to like have be witnessed to any

855
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: interaction between the police or these other law enforcement national

856
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: guard whoever and the youth and so she was watching

857
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: these three young kids being cited for fair evasions. I

858
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: guess they were trying to jump the turnstile and she

859
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: was filming them, and in the process she swiped her

860
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: past to get through the turnstile. The police then tackled her,

861
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: sprayed her with pepper spray, and arrested her. Said she

862
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: was resisting arrest, which if I've been pepper spray, I

863
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: probably would have been not so happy either, And they

864
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: arrested her and it was all caught on camera, and

865
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Speaker 1: they were trying to say that she was evading. She

866
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: was doing she was committing fair evasion even though she

867
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: had swiped a pass. There's some like, there's some rumblings

868
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: that the past she swiped was like a youth pass

869
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: and she was a little bit older than the path

870
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: past technically required. But nonetheless she was like brutalized and

871
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: thrown to the ground while trying to just witness, you know,

872
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: and protect some young kids, some young black kids, who

873
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: are being cited for fair evasion. But she was released

874
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: and she gave like a statement, and I want to

875
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: play a clip of that right now. I want to

876
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: play a clip of just the chance and the excitement

877
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: of her being released, and she does not give her

878
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: last name, which I think is pretty safe. But I

879
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: can tell you TikTok thinks that she is Tupac Shakur's mother, apparently,

880
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: because that is Tupac Shakur's mom. That is not her.

881
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Her name is not a Foenie. Secure, just give just

882
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: calling her a fenie for her own protection. But now

883
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I'll play clip with that now. Yeah, well, the one,

884
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: I guess. The other silver lining is like this is

885
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to be happening across the country. Like

886
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: DC is special because it is the seat of the

887
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: federal government, and like Trump is able to do this,

888
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: he can't do this. He can't just call the National

889
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: Guard into any city against their consent. But still, like

890
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: the mayor of DC is suing. Isn't the mayor of

891
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: DC issuing him over this whole ordeal because it just

892
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: sets like a really dangerous president does.

893
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. And even see like the governor of Maryland,

894
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: he just came out and was like, I will not

895
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: be authorized this as the commander chief of the National

896
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: Guard here that he won't allow because I think he

897
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: said these former military So it's like it's you see,

898
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: people who are former military, being like, this is not

899
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: what we Isn't that what we serve for. Isn't that

900
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: what we spend on same way for our family to do,

901
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: to walk around and just cause problems and be in

902
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: places that they're not even needed because they know they

903
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: know it's not like it's just a show. They know

904
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: it's not there for a real reason or need.

905
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like anytime you have more cops

906
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: coined these neighborhoods, black and brown bodies are going to

907
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: be injured, torture, damage, arrested in some way, Like it's

908
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: just gonna happen. I don't see if anything. I mean,

909
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: they've arrested hundreds of people already, Like even law enforcement

910
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: himself have been like targeted by people because it's just

911
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: causing like tension anxiety. No one likes like these images

912
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: that we're seeing of like these people in like all

913
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: this riot gear and this stance of you know, when

914
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: when I was trying to think of my favorite synonym

915
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: for Trump, I think cheeto dust Mussolini. I think that's

916
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: credited by Lovey I Ja love her cheetah dust Mussolini.

917
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: But seeing his that whole like military parade that he

918
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: had back around his birthday. Yeah, and how this is

919
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: just another He's literally a big fat toddler, like playing

920
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: with his g I Joe's and just wants things to

921
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: go boom boom, like the way that my kid really

922
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: wants to play with NERF guns but I won't let him.

923
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: He just wants to, you know, feel powerful and play

924
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: with his toys, and unfortunately it's going to cost lives

925
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: and livelihoods in the process.

926
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean we've all seen those videos like growing up,

927
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: and how much time have we see those videos from

928
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: those dictatorships, authoritary and governments where they have been military

929
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 3: or brades and you're just like, that's wild, that'll never

930
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 3: happen here. And then here we are, here, we are

931
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: in a situation where you have this. I don't know,

932
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: it's just it's so chaotic and like you're saying, it's

933
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: so nerve racking for you know, like, thankfully it's not

934
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: too bad where I'm at right now. But I think

935
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: about where I grew up in the large Mexican community,

936
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: and we have like the whole ice rays we're kicking

937
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: off over there, and I think about all my friends

938
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: and family people in the neighborhoods I grew up in,

939
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: and it's like you just have this fear now that

940
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: at any point in time someone could just come up

941
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: to you and just bother you. And the thing is

942
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: like with their face covered. And to me, that's the

943
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: worst part, is like you're not even bold enough, brave

944
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: enough to show your face. You have to cover your

945
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: face up, and people supposed to just complying with that. Like,

946
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: why would you feel comfortable with someone with a group

947
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: of people with their faces covered coming up to you

948
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: telling you to get out of your car? Why would

949
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: anyone feel comfortable.

950
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: On These images are so scary.

951
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: I think people from other states feel comfortable. People like

952
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: my family in Georgia who did vote for him, my

953
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: mom's side, the family, I think they're going to be

954
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: like they'll because they feel removed from it until it

955
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: happens in there.

956
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, because when it comes into your neighborhood,

957
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: I mean, who really truly feels safe and protected when

958
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: troops come into the neighborhood Because I've honest you, it's

959
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: not us like I you know, when I travel outside

960
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: of the US, that's when I really start to see it.

961
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: But recently It was so scary because it happened recently,

962
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: like last two years ago. For my birthday, we took

963
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: a trip to Mexico City, and it was so cool

964
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: to be mexicost beautiful. I love Mexico City, but I

965
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: definitely noticed the like policing is so much heavier, like

966
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: just people walking around with big, old like guns shotguns.

967
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? These are like military

968
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: weapons and they just standing in the park just like

969
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: standing guard. Like kids are running and playing and these

970
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: people with these giant guns. I'm like, this doesn't look

971
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: this doesn't look right. But I realized that that is

972
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: is so normal outside of the US to see people,

973
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: you know, police guarding a park or public area with

974
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: military grade weapons and it just looks it looks normal

975
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: to them. To me, it was so jarring to see.

976
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: And recently I was at the airport, probably a couple

977
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: of months ago now, and it was when they first

978
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: started really pushing to the transition to real ID real ID.

979
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh you have to have a real idea or you

980
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: can't fly. Oh my gosh. So the first time I traveled,

981
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: I didn't have my passport on me, but I had

982
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: my my Uh what is the little card for Global Entry.

983
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: I did Global Entry, so I had my little Global

984
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: Entry card, which it looks like a passport card, but

985
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: it's not a passport. It's a Global Entry card, which

986
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: I thought it's issued by the federal government. Global Entry

987
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: is a federal program. So I was like, oh, that

988
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: should be like a real ID. The person gave me

989
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: a hard time, was like, this is not real. I

990
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: d compliant. I was like, I swear when I researched it,

991
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: it said it was that's the only reason I impact

992
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: my passport. Long story short, they were like no, and

993
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: they gave me this red piece of paper. I think

994
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: I still have it in my closet or it's a

995
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: real red piece of paper that says next time you travel,

996
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: if you don't have your real ID, you will be detained,

997
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: like you will not be able to travel. And so

998
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: it was like a warning of red paper that was

999
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: like a warning. So since then I've had my passport.

1000
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: But the point of my story is I was getting

1001
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: on a plane. Usually you see like the TSA agents

1002
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: and like all the officers, like when you're putting your

1003
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: bags in through TSA and then once you go to

1004
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: get on the plane, like that. That's pretty much it.

1005
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: You just see the people that work for the airline. Well,

1006
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: for the first time, I was walking onto the plane.

1007
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm walking down the runway getting on the plane, and

1008
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: there's two agents right there, like standing, I've already gone

1009
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 2: through TSA, I already scanned my boarding pass, I'm about

1010
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: to step my foot onto this plane, and they're standing

1011
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: right by the entrance to the plane, just leaning against

1012
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: the wall there, just the most intimidating presence, just to

1013
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: be seen, like hey, we're here. It was so blaming. No,

1014
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: it was in I kind of want to say Georgia,

1015
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: but I feel like you put that in my head now.

1016
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: It was downside. It was definitely in south. It was

1017
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: either North Carolina, Georgia, Texas, because I do travel a

1018
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: lot to southern states, especially for financial education work I'm doing.

1019
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: But it was, yeah, it was down south. And I

1020
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: was just like, do you.

1021
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Think it was because you were flagged at security for

1022
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: not having the real ID.

1023
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, it might have been that, but they

1024
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: looked like they were just stationed there and like they

1025
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: had They were there before I got there, they were

1026
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: there after I got in the plane. Like it was

1027
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: just I think they just started to assign them to

1028
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: stand there so that if to look for what, I

1029
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: don't know, suspicious behavior, people sweating people. Now, I don't

1030
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: know what are they looking for exactly. Peace already got

1031
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 2: through TSA, you already got through, you're on, you're about

1032
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: to get on your plane and get in your seat.

1033
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: So at that point, what exactly are they looking for? Like,

1034
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: I just think it's like this, I don't know what

1035
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: it is. It's like to put it in our brains

1036
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: that like they're everywhere and they're watching and you can't

1037
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: get away with anything. Like I just think it's just

1038
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: just a weird shift that has It's not been a

1039
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: very American thing up until like all of a sudden,

1040
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: now it's trying to be normalized.

1041
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I just it's really, well, you're not going to see

1042
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: them Amar a Lago, You're not going to see them

1043
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: at the you know, uh, the the Trump Links over

1044
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: here in the Bronx, you're not gonna hear. You're not

1045
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna see them, and the Hampton's foray not going to

1046
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: see them, you know, in these like very you know,

1047
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: rich Tony neighborhoods. I can assure you of that, but

1048
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: you will see them in black and brown neighborhoods. You

1049
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: will at our own detriment. Hey, ba fam, We got

1050
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: to take a quick break, pay some bills and we'll

1051
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: be right back. But moving on, there was a story

1052
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: that really it like sent shivers down my spine a

1053
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: little bit because this is one of my biggest fears

1054
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: as a homeowner. I just had this, like I would

1055
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: say before, it was like unjustified or what the irrational

1056
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: fears that there's like some piece of paperwork somewhere that

1057
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose my house over, or that like

1058
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: it's not really mine. I don't know, just like this,

1059
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: it just never really felt real. I guess now it does.

1060
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: But it's really sad story. There's a man in Brooklyn.

1061
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: His name is Phil Moore Brown, which just come on now,

1062
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: mister Phillmore, not mister Fillmore. A Brooklyn homeowner. He spent

1063
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: decades paying off his mortgage and his home was valued

1064
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: at eight hundred thousand dollars and he lost it to

1065
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: foreclosure because of an unpaid water bill. It was a

1066
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: debt that he says he never knew about.

1067
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: Y'all hear about this story, No, I read about it

1068
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: when he sent me this on the link, and so sad.

1069
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: So the city so this was an unpaid water bill,

1070
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: which the city runs the water. So there's the city

1071
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: had a lean against his home because of this water debt,

1072
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: which is somehow he did not understand it. I was trying.

1073
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: My husband was like, well, didn't he get letters in

1074
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: the mail? Like, didn't he know? I'm like, I don't know.

1075
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Whatever reason he didn't know. He had set up a

1076
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: new water account that he was paying and he was

1077
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: current on, but the city still had him as owing

1078
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. So they sold that debt to a trust,

1079
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: which then triggered a foreclosure when that debt went unpaid.

1080
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: So Brown he continued, was paying his current bills and taxes.

1081
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: He never saw warnings about the old bill. Tell me,

1082
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: this man found out about this when strangers with legal

1083
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: access they had legal paperwork for the house, came with

1084
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: tools and tried to enter his home.

1085
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1086
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: And so now he's trying to fight back, and I

1087
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: hope that he gets some kind of relief. I hope

1088
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: that there's like New York is supposed to be the

1089
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: toughest place to kick renters out, like squatters rights and

1090
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: all that. But to see a homeowner who's been like

1091
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: paying his taxes, Yeah, can he get a refund of

1092
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: all his damn property taxes?

1093
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: Now?

1094
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Come on?

1095
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1096
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: It's so sad.

1097
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: And the fact that, like it's not even a lot

1098
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: of money. Water bills in New York are not that high.

1099
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Like my dad's water book for this house in Brooklyn,

1100
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: he has a two family home, is only like a

1101
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: couple thousand dollars a year. So even if he hadn't

1102
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: paid it for four or five years, we're talking about

1103
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: what six thousand, seven thousand dollars, Like you lose an.

1104
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Home equity to cover it.

1105
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: Like, as I'm saying, the value of the home is

1106
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: millions of dollars and the debt is less than ten k.

1107
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: Make it make sense that you would lose a multimillion

1108
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: dollar home for less than ten thousand dollars dead, Like,

1109
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: it's just wild. And to me, it's one of those

1110
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: things where it's like taking advantage of older people that

1111
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: happened so much in brownstone buildings in Bedsty because so

1112
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: many of those brown stones are older black family like

1113
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: grandma and grandpa who live alone who don't have anybody

1114
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: there to explain to them what's going on, and they

1115
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: get taken advantage of and they end up losing their

1116
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: property to stuff like this where people just show up

1117
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 2: and say, oh, look, my name's on the deed now,

1118
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: and what are you supposed to do. You don't have

1119
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: money to hire a lawyer. You don't really understand even

1120
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: what's going on. Like it is the most heartbreaking thing,

1121
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: this one. I didn't know about this story until you

1122
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: sent it to me, but I was like, oh, because

1123
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: it's in Brooklyn, Like I'm from Brooklyn, and I feel

1124
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: like my mom and dad would be victims like that

1125
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: because they wouldn't understand like all the systems or the

1126
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: notices coming. They wouldn't know, you know, like there's so

1127
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: many older people that just get taken advantage of because

1128
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 2: they don't understand a lot of these systems. They're lucky

1129
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: enough to have even like gotten a real estate property

1130
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: name early on, and now they're kind of, you know,

1131
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: like easy targets for these predators that are looking for

1132
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: people to take advantage of when it comes to these

1133
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: places like Brooklyn, where properties back back when I was

1134
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: born in the eighties, late eighties, a property in Brooklyn

1135
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: that was like fifty sixty k today easily worth two

1136
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: million or more. So that kind of appreciation that happens

1137
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: so fast like that and at crazy rates. It's an

1138
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 2: easy place to go and you know, be a predator

1139
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: because you know that these properties are worth so much

1140
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: and they're probably older people living there who don't really

1141
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: understand what's going on.

1142
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that unpaid what was that five

1143
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of water bills? Like, how does is

1144
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: that enough to make you completely lose your home and

1145
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: not get any real seats from it? I see, I

1146
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: guess it was like you taking a court to get

1147
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars okay, but the result being oh, you

1148
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: have to sell your house. We're going to We're going

1149
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 3: to just take your house and sell it and get

1150
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: way more than they might we need. That didn't seem

1151
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: like that makes it any sets at all.

1152
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: I know.

1153
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: But that's the thing with those legal loopholes. It became

1154
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: a lean on the property. Once. Once there's a lean

1155
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: on the property, that's right, all bets are off, Like

1156
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: you can lose the property just because of the lean.

1157
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: But it just it's seemed like there has to be

1158
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: something that like within the mathing math and like they

1159
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: should take it from the equity or like you know,

1160
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: negotiate with him where he has to take a heelock

1161
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: or like something. But like he could pay it. It's

1162
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: not that And he said he would have paid it

1163
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: if you knew.

1164
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably had an in savings. That man took

1165
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: care of his finances. That man had a house that

1166
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: was paid off. He was paying his bills, he was

1167
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: paying his taxes, He had a more you know, he

1168
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: had the mortgage paid off. But we all know in

1169
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: New York, you're still paying them.

1170
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: I asked property, you.

1171
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: Know, like he and or at least like once the

1172
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: community finds out we're raising five thousand dollars for mister Fillmore,

1173
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: like come on now, like it's not that much money,

1174
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: but it I don't know. Have y'all bought a home

1175
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: before they bought not me, not in my name. So

1176
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: the word lean was was something that I mean, I

1177
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: knew of it. But then when I was buying my house,

1178
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: they do a title check when they whether the person

1179
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: who's buying the home, typically will do the title check.

1180
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: I forget which one of you pays it someone pays it.

1181
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: But that's a very thorough search of county, state, local

1182
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: records to see if there's any leans on the property

1183
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: before the bank, because the bank does not want to

1184
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: loan you money, as if you're getting a mortgage. They

1185
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: don't want to loan you money for a home that

1186
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: it could just be taken away from you and then

1187
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: they made never get their money back. So they do

1188
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: this title check. But I was like, other than that,

1189
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: how does a person find out if there's any leans

1190
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: against you? So and it's actually pretty convoluted, like the

1191
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: most obvious way that you may find out if you

1192
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: have an old, old debt on your record, it may

1193
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: be on your credit report. That's not always the case.

1194
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: I know when I got my first place in New York,

1195
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I had an unpaid water bill from my place in

1196
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: college that me and the girls just lost sight of.

1197
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: My name was on it. That wasn't showing up on

1198
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: my record until my land my future landlord did a

1199
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: check and on his end, he's like, oh, you have this,

1200
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: like you have this debt back in Georgia. And there's

1201
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: third party search tools that you you could check for liens, So.

1202
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: You're just gonna wake up one day and go, let

1203
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: me just check today to make sure I don't have

1204
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: a lien on my product.

1205
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: Just check one.

1206
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: Let me just check today to see if I have

1207
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: a lian. You never know I might have a lien.

1208
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 2: Let me just check today real quick. Like who's gonna

1209
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: wake up and think to do to check.

1210
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: For a leak?

1211
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: Like?

1212
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: But the real these like property, these investment buyers, these

1213
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: and these you know, real estate investors quote unquote whoever's

1214
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: buying these foreclosed properties. They sure are, and they're like,

1215
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: oh goodie. They see opportunity. They don't want to go

1216
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: knock on a door and find out mister Fillmore lives

1217
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: there and give him a heads up. Hey, mister Fillmore,

1218
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: did you know that your house came up on this

1219
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: search and just for five thousand dollars you could save

1220
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: yourself your home. No, they're like, oh, we're gonna get

1221
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: a great deal on this. Fuck mister Fillmore, you know

1222
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: that's what they're thinking. No one's doing that for these

1223
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: poor people. In New York specifically, there's something called the

1224
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: Automated City Register. This is a great The acronym is

1225
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: acris A c R is the Automated City just information

1226
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: system where you can search property records in Manhattan, Queens,

1227
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and the Bronx. You could again this costs money,

1228
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: like you have to hire a title search company. You

1229
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: can ask a real estate agent to do you a solid.

1230
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: You can check your credit report and then just hope

1231
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: for federal leans like this is usually tied to tax debt.

1232
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: You can go to the IRS dot gov. Good luck,

1233
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: because they've laid off like a bajillion of them. We'll

1234
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: find out. I feel like we need to do.

1235
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: It, really is though. I feel like what the investigative

1236
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: journalism piece of this is is for us to figure

1237
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: out who exactly is the trust, who's in that trust?

1238
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: Who are the group of investors who bought the home

1239
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: at the auction in the foreclosure, because they're the ones

1240
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: that bought the debt right from the city. If I

1241
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 2: am understanding this correctly, right like the home was put

1242
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: up there, so then they're the ones who have the

1243
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: opportunity to take corrective action and undo the injustice that

1244
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: was done, even if they didn't purposefully or intentionally seek

1245
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: to harm him. They once they understand that they did,

1246
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: and once you have a bunch of film crew people

1247
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: up in your face with cameras and microphones, asking did

1248
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: you know that this is what you're doing? Do you

1249
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: know that unintentionally this is what you're doing to him?

1250
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: Are you going to help fix it? Are you going

1251
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: to take the steps to do it right? Then if

1252
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: all this pressure is on them, the problem is it

1253
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: seems like it was a trust, so they do trusts

1254
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: to like basically not make it easy for people to

1255
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: find out who whose name right, because it's a trust,

1256
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: it's not an individual. So investigative journalists need to go

1257
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: up in there and find out whose names who are

1258
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: the investors who own that trust, so we can you know,

1259
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: not I don't want to say shame them, but like pressure,

1260
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: positive peer pressure.

1261
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Some people need to be shamed.

1262
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: Use it the right way, but yes, but shame them

1263
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: and positively pressure them to do the right thing. On

1264
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: field more brown behalf come on, like it's just doing

1265
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: We just need to do the right thing. It's getting

1266
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: ridiculous with these real estate things that are like go

1267
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: viral on TikTok, people taking advantage of loopholes and putting

1268
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: you just like really, this man could be your daddy

1269
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: or your granddaddy, Like come on, have a heart, just

1270
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: do the.

1271
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: Right thing exactly. I mean, this is like, I mean,

1272
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: one of the many reasons why for me, like housing

1273
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: should never have even gotten into the investment territory, right,

1274
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: that should never it should never be considered this is

1275
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: a way to make money, Like I get it. Like

1276
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you had a house and you moved

1277
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: and you want to rent it out, like okay, maybe,

1278
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: But then when it becomes the thing where it's how

1279
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: many properties can acquire how can I maximize them the

1280
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: most profit out of these properties? It turns something that

1281
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: is just a thing that we all need, an essential

1282
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: part of being alive, is a place to live, and

1283
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: it turns it into something that becomes a way to

1284
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: make money. And once you do that, it completely changes

1285
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 3: the way it's seen and completely takes the humanity out

1286
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 3: of it, because now it's not about people, not about

1287
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: just a service a place at home. It's about money

1288
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: and it changes everything here.

1289
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Speaker 1: That's right.

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00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Well, mister Fillmore, I'm gonna be following your story. I

1292
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: hope you get some kind of relief. I'm glad that

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: the local news is covering it. You shout out to

1294
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: our local journalist. I had dinner with a whole bunch

1295
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: of metro reporters in the New York Times. I know

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00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: they already probably know, but I'm gonna email them. What

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: can y'all do?

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: New York Times moaning?

1299
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: Get them moan it all right? Are y'all whiskey drinkers?

1300
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: Tea cup?

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00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: I was in Kentucky recently. Apparently Kentucky is like the

1302
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: place to go for whiskey.

1303
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: Right, yes, apparently apparently.

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00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: I was in Kentucky and everybody was whiskey here, whiskey there. Oh,

1305
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: you have to have whiskey you're in Kentucky. I was like,

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00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: whiskey and Kentucky are connected. Okay, I didn't know.

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00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. Miami girl, you work out. I was like, okay,

1308
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: well what about you, Chris, you like a little whiskey

1309
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: in your teacup.

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 3: You know, I don't drink very often, but when I do,

1311
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: I do like a whiskey or bourbon every now and then.

1312
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: Classy madly. I have way too many bad hangovers from

1313
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: the dark liquor, so I try to stay away from

1314
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: the dark liquor, and I don't really drink in general. However,

1315
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: I do follow black owned business controversy and news and

1316
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: the founder Fawn Weaver, who is the founder and CEO

1317
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: of Uncle Nearest Whiskey. So this is a whiskey brand.

1318
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: Have you heard of Uncle Nearest? It's the big, big brand.

1319
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Has a really incredible backstory. The name Uncle Nearest came

1320
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: from a formerly enslaved man called Nathan Nearest Green and

1321
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: he was formally enslaved. And he's the first known African

1322
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: American master distiller. He actually taught Jack Daniel, Yes of

1323
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: the whiskey fame, how to make whiskey and never got

1324
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: credit for it. Of course, So Fawn Weaver, who founded

1325
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Uncle Nearest, discovered his story and then founded the company

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: named it in his name. And what's going on? What's

1327
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: going on now? Speaking of debt going unpaid, So a

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: lender for Uncle Nearest has filed lawsuit against the founder

1329
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: of the company saying that Uncle Nears defaulted on over

1330
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight million dollars in loans and misrepresented

1331
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: its barrel inventory and yes, and also claims that loan

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: funds were improperly used to purchase property in Martha's vineyard.

1333
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: So now Fawn Weaver and her husband Keith, their backs

1334
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: are up against the wall trying to deny these allegations,

1335
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: but they suffered a huge loss in court. A judge

1336
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: has appointed someone who's called a receiver, who is taking

1337
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: operational control away from the Weavers, which means they can't

1338
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: sell company assets. And while things are sort of frozen,

1339
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: this receiver, who's like a babysitter for their finances, essentially,

1340
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: is gonna play a big role in deciding what are

1341
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: they going to have to liquidate to pay back this

1342
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight million dollars now Fawn Weaver. She

1343
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: actually came out on Instagram. I want to play a

1344
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: clip of Look am I playing my clips?

1345
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: So to a girl?

1346
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: So Morning News coded.

1347
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 5: Y'all know I'm under a gag order because so many

1348
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 5: have reported it. But here's what I know. I can

1349
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 5: say two points and make sure to share this since

1350
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 5: lies tend to spread faster than the truth. Number One,

1351
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 5: keep clearing the shelves. Every bottle you move, tells our

1352
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 5: distributors and partners the same thing. We've built one of

1353
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 5: the strongest and most resilient brands in American history. Number two,

1354
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 5: don't believe the fake news. Some reports claim I no

1355
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 5: longer own Uncle nears that I'm not running it.

1356
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. I've built this company. I own

1357
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: this company.

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01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 5: I run this company, and my leadership team, who have

1359
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: all been with me for six to eight years, are

1360
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 5: right here building alongside me. Our team remains unshaken and unmoved.

1361
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: That ever changes, you'll hear it directly from me, and

1362
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: I know you will respond accordingly. All major challenges are

1363
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 5: inevitable in ownership. That's why so many tap out. And

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01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 5: my number one piece of advice to would be entrepreneurs is,

1365
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 5: if you are of the quitting kind, don't start, because

1366
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 5: entrepreneurialism will give you one hundred reasons a day to quit.

1367
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 5: But strong leadership doesn't pan it. It keeps a steady

1368
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 5: hand and moves forward.

1369
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: But I saw her statement just came out yesterday on

1370
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: IG and she's she's standing on business. I mean, she's

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01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: very much like, this is some bullshit. We had a

1372
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: terrible CFO. He's the reason that this happened, apparently, and

1373
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: that she's using the hashtag, the hashtag clear the shelves

1374
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: and asking fans of the brand that this is just

1375
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: a part of entrepreneurship. And she says, if you're the

1376
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: quitting kind don't start. Entrepreneurship will give you a hundred

1377
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: reasons to quit every day. Well, and she's got one

1378
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: hundred and eight million reasons to think about quitting. Now.

1379
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: This is bit, this is bad.

1380
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: So basically you're saying her CFO kind of just did

1382
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: them dirty, essentially.

1383
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, So she's saying like it's behind the

1384
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: scenes and that yes, they're blaming it on the CFO

1385
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: who's no longer there but buying property, you know in

1386
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: mar this vineyard which Martha's Vineyards having a moment right now.

1387
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys it is.

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01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: I am, first of all, I was supposed to go

1389
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: to Martha's Vineyard for my birthday this year. Oh really

1390
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: because Okay, randomly, Jamil and I found out about this

1391
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: twenty five for twenty five challenge from Jet Blue, which

1392
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: is you have to go to twenty five new airport

1393
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 2: destinations on a Jet Blue flight operated flight between July

1394
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: first and December thirty first of twenty twenty five. And

1395
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: so we fly Jet Blue a lot just because like

1396
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: Caribbean up and down the Eastern seaboard and so and

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: we live in Miami. For Lardoe Airports, So like we

1398
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: just travel Jet Blue a lot. I have the Jet

1399
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: Blue credit card. So I was like, oh, we should

1400
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: do this because like it'd be easy for us. It

1401
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't cost more than like two thousand dollars. And the

1402
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: result of it is if you hit those twenty five

1403
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: destinations in that timeframe, you get twenty five years of

1404
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: mosaic status. So like bottomless drinks on planes meals first

1405
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: priority boarding, free check backs, Like all of those.

1406
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: Get lounge access. Do they have lounge I mean we

1407
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: get launched the airport, free food.

1408
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all this great drink.

1409
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 1: So I got to you gotta lounge access, Chris, gotta

1410
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: get one of them.

1411
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: Now with all these cards, with all these credit cards,

1412
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like people have lounge access

1413
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: way more now with all these all these different credit

1414
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: cards that give you access. But anyway, long story short,

1415
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: we had booked our flight to Martha's Vineyard for my

1416
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: birthday and then my good friend from college told me

1417
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: she was gonna be in Nantucket and she got a

1418
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: house for like a week and was like, hey, girl,

1419
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: like we're gonna have people coming and going. Would love

1420
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: for you to join us. So we switched our trip

1421
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: from Martha's Vineyard to Nantucket.

1422
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: Wait, when's your birthday?

1423
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: August thirty? First, I'm a Virgo baby, Oh you're.

1424
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: Also an August baby. You didn't tell me no.

1425
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: Ate August virgo. Literally, if my mom had pushed me

1426
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: out like two hours later, I would have been a

1427
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: September virgo.

1428
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: But I was born late night August baby. Yes, well,

1429
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: you would have missed the black ay, black, black black

1430
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard. That's that's everyone. I think this this news

1431
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: hitting the Martha's Vineyard like the blackady black blackness. It

1432
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: hits like early August. There's the African American Film Festival,

1433
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: there's the African American Book Fast of Martha's Vineyard Book Festival,

1434
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: which is brand new. It's only been around a couple

1435
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: couple summers now, manifesting my invitation for twenty twenty whenever

1436
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: the hell my book comes out. I don't know, but

1437
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: my dear friend is there right now, and I keep

1438
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: getting invited to Martha's Vineyard events. But until somebody's copying housing,

1439
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a family home. And on the on

1440
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: the vineyard saying don't come from an old beautiful black

1441
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: wealth unfortunately, but I do love to see people living

1442
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: their best black luxury lives. So the fact that this

1443
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: came out and that they specifically mentioned that they allegedly

1444
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: use corporate funds loan funding to purchase a property on

1445
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: the vineyard, it's just like an extra like little It's embarrassing,

1446
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: even if it even if it's you know, whether or

1447
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: not they're in the wrong, or it's really the CFO

1448
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: who did it? Like all that, Sometimes I do feel

1449
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: like like, am I wrong? Just just thinking of this

1450
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: as they took out a lot of loan month, they

1451
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: took out a lot of loans, they did not pay

1452
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: them back on the on the schedule or whatever, and

1453
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: they need to file bankruptcy what they need like they're

1454
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: getting a receivership. Maybe this is like one step before bankruptcy.

1455
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not pulling that lever yet. But god

1456
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: damn our own president filed bankruptcy? How many times?

1457
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: How many times? And how many other businesses have been

1458
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: bailed out?

1459
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: And many tell me why Toys r uss is back

1460
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: after what dying? How many debts by banker?

1461
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1462
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: Yes, players is back. Sears. I heard an ad for

1463
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: J C. Penny JC Penny is back.

1464
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: You're like, meth bye still in business?

1465
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Did you say Series is Sears back?

1466
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: The girl you said Sears?

1467
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: I used to work at Series back in the day,

1468
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: and I stopped.

1469
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: Sears Catalog when I was little.

1470
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: But this is, like, it's a part of business. Like

1471
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: businesses leveraged, they don't pay it back, they go into bankruptcy,

1472
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: they come back all the time. But am I wrong?

1473
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: And just kind of it's just it's a big headline,

1474
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: it's a it's a beloved brand, and there's so much

1475
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: like affinity for this brand and what it stands for

1476
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: and all that, and it just sucks to see this happen.

1477
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: But I'm like, if we elected a bankrupt like sexual

1478
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: assault sexual assaulter and a felon, and we made him

1479
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: our president, like you, we give von Weaver like a

1480
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a break here, like for her to

1481
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: untangle this mess.

1482
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I think everybody deserves a chance, right like.

1483
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: And I feel like if her, if the business, if

1484
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: what she's saying is true about that MESSCFO, which is

1485
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: honestly very believable. I you know, I my book that

1486
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: I published in twenty twenty three was through a hybrid

1487
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 2: publisher called scrib Media. When I was going through the

1488
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: process of doing my audiobook recording, they had a massive,

1489
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: like scandal where they ran out of money and we're

1490
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: essentially to shut down the business and a bunch of

1491
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: people who were putting their books out with Scribe, We're

1492
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: like wait, what, Like they just left authors in limbo,

1493
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: people who paid thirty four couple one thousand dollars. It

1494
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: was massive. Somebody came in and bought the business and

1495
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: just revived them, like just gave them a second chant.

1496
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: Like now the business is up and running. It's totally normal.

1497
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: Like nobody even associates them with that scandal anymore. Now

1498
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: they have like all these big name authors putting books out,

1499
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 2: and you know, some people had to pay a little

1500
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: bit more to finish their projects, but like, you know,

1501
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: they're fine now. And I feel like this happens with

1502
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: business all the time. And that particular scandal, it ended

1503
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 2: up coming out that the CFO was the reason why

1504
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: all of this happened, because he was like lying and

1505
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: manipulating people and like moving money places shouldn't have gone,

1506
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: and like personally benefiting from the business. Like all kinds

1507
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: of scandalous messy things. So for her to say, like, look,

1508
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: we had a really messy CFO, like, I believe that

1509
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: is very believable. I would say it's worth saving and

1510
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: giving them a second chance. Now if it happens again, okay,

1511
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: then I don't believe in third This is all I'm

1512
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 2: gonna say. But I do think it's worth an attempt

1513
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: at really like bringing the community together for what the

1514
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: company represents, especially with the story behind the brand and

1515
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 2: what it represents, especially in alcohol and distilleries. We're such

1516
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: a white dominated industry. So I feel like it's worth

1517
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 2: a chance. And then you know, of course what happened

1518
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: if it was just a one time thing and that

1519
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 2: was a mistake, and hopefully they hire genuinely better people

1520
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: moving forward and learn from that mistake. But with businesses

1521
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: at that scale, yeah, it's really it's really hard. I

1522
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: honestly would give the benefit of doubt and say, like,

1523
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: people come together, say the business.

1524
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Sellency, even if she even if they did use the

1525
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: loan cap the loan funding for a home, like the

1526
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: way that like even when with my laptop, for example,

1527
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,480
Speaker 1: when you get into business, you find all these loopholes,

1528
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: all these little like yeah, all the time, all these

1529
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: little you know, and Mario the little green tunnel, do

1530
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: do do do do like, and you know, go down.

1531
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: I go to our kids.

1532
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: Espectually pretty good and you just.

1533
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: Go to like things and you go to these different

1534
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: portals and there's like all these coins and grab them all.

1535
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: No one knows about this deal. And it's like if

1536
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: you have these cheat codes, they can and they can

1537
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: be and there they sometimes they try to market them

1538
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: to every day people. People will be like, go buy

1539
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: a van and find get an LLC van and put it. Oh,

1540
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: put that new iPhone, put the new car on your

1541
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: company business. It's a it's a write off. Like there's

1542
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: all this misinformation and you know, information that applies in

1543
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: some cases, and I think it and the more the

1544
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: bigger you are, the more money you have, the bigger

1545
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: the falls can be, the bigger the f ups can be.

1546
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: And but I can absolutely see how someone gave some

1547
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: bad advice, one made a bad judgment call. They were

1548
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: told it was legit, and then you know, only to

1549
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: find out maybe it wasn't so kosher that they did

1550
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: it this way. I think a little room just the

1551
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: order that the order, the errors are just very very expensive.

1552
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't I don't know enough about it,

1553
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: and I definitely want to learn more because I feel

1554
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: like if there, if if it makes sense and there's

1555
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: just some wrong doing on behalf of the former CFO, like,

1556
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: then I would say that deserves a second chance. But

1557
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: if it's a little bit more than that and you

1558
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 2: try to look and there's really no justification and what

1559
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: was done was clearly shady on multiple people's party and

1560
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: there's really no cleaning it up, then in that case,

1561
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 2: like Okay, y'all were shady, and now you got to

1562
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 2: come up with the money, liquidate whatever you have to liquidate.

1563
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: That's the name of business. That's just how it goes.

1564
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: But I feel like, maybe they can be president one day.

1565
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 2: Listen, it wouldn't be.

1566
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: All no, maybe they'll be the ambassador to Europe, to

1567
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: the UK, to Russia even why not?

1568
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1569
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: Why not?

1570
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: But you know, it's like I think it's it's like

1571
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why it's so tempting to want

1572
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 3: to outsource, like the like the like your money tasks. Right,

1573
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: I think this is like a business huge scale, but

1574
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 3: even on a personal level, I think so often like

1575
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 3: people hear I'm saying even sometimes I'm like, I don't

1576
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 3: want to do this. I wish someone would just do

1577
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 3: this for me. But then the further you remove yourself

1578
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: from that information and knowing what's going on, you're still

1579
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 3: gonna be held liable for it, right, And as that's

1580
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: the hard part, like yourunning a business, I'm sure it's

1581
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine running a business of that scale,

1582
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: how difficult that is and how much stuff you have

1583
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 3: to do on a day to day basis. But if

1584
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: you also aren't tapped into what's going on with your

1585
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 3: finances and you're letting someone just run everything, it's like

1586
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 3: it puts you in such a vulnerable position where now

1587
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 3: you can be caught off guard, like saying that's what happened,

1588
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 3: saying they didn't know anything about this, and they but

1589
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 3: they were clearly like trusting this person. And that's when

1590
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 3: it's like you got at least keep you know, a

1591
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 3: little bit of yourself in on what's going on, and

1592
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 3: maybe they weren't. It just it still wasn't enough. They

1593
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 3: need to know even more. But that's the danger and

1594
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 3: letting someone else run all the financial science.

1595
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: You've been victimized by someone you hired to help you,

1596
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: and you really just want to.

1597
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 3: I've had an accounting man, I'm cleaning up stuff in

1598
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 3: an accountant from like three years ago, messed up because

1599
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: I trusted them. I was like, didn't seem right, but

1600
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: I was like, they said this was right. And then

1601
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 3: I'm still cleaning it up. And yeah. It's like you

1602
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 3: when you when you let go of the reins and

1603
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: someone else you trust someone else to be like, oh yeah,

1604
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 3: they got this.

1605
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 2: That's why I have trust issues, y'all. That's why I

1606
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: have trust issues.

1607
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: I think trust issues are a healthy shall have a

1608
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: few trust.

1609
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: Levels, very high Gazell level.

1610
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: Gazell level. We'll see how this continues to play out.

1611
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: But Fan Weaver ain't going down like that on her

1612
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: In her post, folks always want to play mondanight Monday

1613
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: night quarterback, she says, But until they get on this

1614
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,440
Speaker 1: field and help create the touchdowns, how do you verbalize

1615
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: monkey covering eyes? Monkey covering you know? Evil? See there

1616
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: you go?

1617
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: Okay, monkey covering eyes?

1618
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 1: Well, if I drink with ye, I go get a bottle.

1619
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: But I don't, so y'all, y'all go do that for work.

1620
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: Clear the shells has should I clear the shells.

1621
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: It's just the timing is off. If it was like, oh,

1622
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: maybe Labor Days coming up, my people might do Labor

1623
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: Day for Labor Day, barbecues, cookouts, bring bring up bottle

1624
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: on Glenaras.

1625
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: Yes, that's such a good I Yes, Labor Day is

1626
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: coming up, and Nellie's birthdays coming up. I'm saying, all right,

1627
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: next up. I wanted to do a quick This was

1628
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: pretty sad, y'all know. I have been and on these

1629
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: internet streets and on this own podcast talking a lot

1630
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: more about Gaza, and this was a really sad update

1631
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: because the one like source of comfort for me has

1632
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: been reading gofund me camp's. This sounds weird, but there's

1633
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: many to try to like cope with the heaviness of

1634
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: what's happening in Gaza. I've been going on GoFundMe and

1635
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: just reading the stories of victims who have been injured

1636
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: and their families who've been transported to like Europe and

1637
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: usually in the US as the ones that I'll read,

1638
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, and they'll end up in these like in

1639
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: the Midwest. I sent my mother one because this family

1640
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 1: had ended up in Saint Louis and the daughter who's

1641
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: like three had, you know, had amputations of both legs

1642
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: and one of her arms. And but you'll read their

1643
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: stories and you'll see that the least are getting medical

1644
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: care here and able to find some kind of reprieve

1645
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: from the war happening in their home, which of course

1646
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: is devastating. But in a sad update, the US State

1647
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: Department has suspended all visitor visas for people from Gaza,

1648
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: which includes Palestinian children who are in urgent need of

1649
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: medical care. And they've said that this is so they

1650
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: can do a full review of the visa issue one's process,

1651
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: particularly with visas concerning temporary medical slash humanitarian aid that

1652
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: had been granted in recent months. And the suspension has

1653
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: come after criticism from of course, far right activists who

1654
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: claimed without evidence that some Palestinians receiving these visas had

1655
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: ties to terrorist organizations and it sounds like the same

1656
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: justification they have to bombing them in the first place.

1657
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: Medical humanitarian groups have condemned the suspension, and the freeze

1658
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: affects all visitor visas from Gaza while the State Department

1659
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: evaluates procedures. And yeah, and this means that there's children

1660
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: and there are dozens who are awaiting medical care that

1661
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: them and their families are probably stuck in Jordan or

1662
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: Egypt or some other hopefully safe but still in need

1663
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: of care, surgery, rehabilitation. They have buns of.

1664
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: Stuck in mid transit, stuck in purgatory.

1665
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I hope there's I hope there's groups that

1666
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 6: will that will go there and rush to the aid,

1667
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 6: like you know, go to Jordan, go to these places

1668
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 6: where they're because I just feel like this in the past,

1669
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 6: at least has been like a bunch of like doctors

1670
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 6: without Borders and groups like that that've been like, Okay,

1671
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 6: let's rally and like bring people where they're needed. And

1672
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 6: I feel like there's this fear of like going into gassap.

1673
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 6: But if you know that there's now pockets of folks

1674
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 6: that were stuck in mid transit and need help, like,

1675
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 6: maybe that's an opportunity for people qualified medical professionals who

1676
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 6: are looking to do that kind of humanitarian.

1677
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: Work to go there. It just it feels like there's

1678
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: an opportunity to provide help. But it's just heartbreaking because

1679
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 2: no matter what the policy changes are, you're going to

1680
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: have people who are going to say, oh, it's justified, Oh,

1681
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: we're doing this for this X y Z reason, and

1682
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: it's impossible to get them to admit that with the

1683
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 2: real reason why you know, they're doing this even even

1684
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: to babies, which is like you know, I the other

1685
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 2: day I was like looking at a video on Instagram

1686
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: of this mom who was like she was just sitting

1687
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: down eating a plate of food and her baby was

1688
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: sitting next to her, little tiny little baby, like not

1689
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: a toddler, like a baby in diapers, And every time

1690
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: the mom would take a bite, she'd like make eye

1691
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 2: contact with her baby, and the baby would just giggle

1692
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: and they would both just crack up, and then the

1693
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: mom would go take another bite, and then the baby

1694
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: would look at mom and they would laugh again. It

1695
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: was the cutest thing in my mind. I just kept

1696
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: picturing like like why do people watch these videos hurt

1697
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 2: them like them coming, Oh, this is adorable, but then

1698
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: they can't understand that that's exactly this kind of peace

1699
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: and love that mothers and gods that want to be

1700
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: able to provide to their babies. Like why is it

1701
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 2: that we lose our humanity when we're looking at certain

1702
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: babies or certain mothers or certain people but like I

1703
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 2: see that video and I see there's no difference between

1704
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: that mother and baby and her mother and baby and Godsend,

1705
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: Like there's literally no difference. So it just like it

1706
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: breaks my heart to hear this, and I just I

1707
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: hope creates an opportunity to be able to provide help

1708
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: in places that are not maybe you know, that are

1709
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: mid transit for these folks and not like right in

1710
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: the place where a lot of people don't want to

1711
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 2: like you know, go right to where the chaos is,

1712
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: but like maybe tertiary or secondary locations around it can

1713
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: still get some aid and some help and support.

1714
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: Just what is the hole that Israel has over the world?

1715
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: Like what is it? What the what is it? Yeah,

1716
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: it's you know, And I'm willing to just like say

1717
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: the wrong thing here because no one's going to tell

1718
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: me that I'm I'm an anti semi. You won't tell me

1719
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: that because I know for sure my heart and that

1720
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm not. And my kids, you know, they will learn

1721
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: about the Holocaust and they'll learn about what's happening in

1722
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: Gaza too, and I'll have to find words to describe

1723
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: and help them understand, and you know, and I I'll

1724
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: do my best. I think like all of us will

1725
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: to like try to put words to what's going on,

1726
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: but it just makes it makes such little sense. And

1727
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I definitely grew up and went to school,

1728
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 1: went through journalism school all that, always kind of feeling

1729
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: like and like there was this message being funneled like

1730
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: fed to us. And I'll never forget Tanahassei Coates's book

1731
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: that came out last year. I'm blinking on the name now,

1732
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: but it was all about It was a lot about

1733
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: what's happening in Israel and Gaza and the war there.

1734
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: And he really put words to my experience, which was

1735
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: that we just had this like feeling I just grew up,

1736
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: like they really brainwashed you into thinking that it was

1737
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: way too complicated.

1738
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: Well yeah, he says that in a lot of the

1739
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: press interviews too. The book is called The Message. He

1740
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: talked a lot about that in his interviews too around

1741
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: the book, where there were a little bit of controversial

1742
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: interviews where people put him on the spot like do

1743
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: you really feel like because you spent four days in

1744
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: the Godza strip that now you're qualified to talk about this?

1745
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,520
Speaker 2: And he was like, I look, I am just calling

1746
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 2: it what it is, and it's like you can spend

1747
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: four years there, four days there, doesn't matter. When anybody

1748
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: who goes and sees what's happening, you can you can

1749
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: call out in justice when you see it. And I

1750
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: mean that book was incredible. I listened to the audiobook

1751
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: version of it, but yeah, definitely highly recommend it. And

1752
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: I think no matter how much controversy people say that

1753
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: like he created with that book, like I think it

1754
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: helped a lot of people see that. The message point

1755
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 2: in plan and clear is that we've been convinced that

1756
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: we shouldn't talk about it because we're not informed, we

1757
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: don't understand. It's so layered, it's so complex, it's too

1758
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 2: complex to talk about. And he was just saying like

1759
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: that is BS just calling BS on that that specifically,

1760
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: and that's it, which I think is very powerful.

1761
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: I just see pain causing more pain. I see fear.

1762
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: I think of Israel. Israelis as so deeply afraid of

1763
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: having another Holocaust and at willing to do at any

1764
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: cost to protect themselves. And I think it was what

1765
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: you're saying earlier on Elli about like understanding the psychology

1766
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: behind why someone's done something. But that doesn't justify it, right,

1767
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: I think we feel a lot of things. I mean,

1768
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 1: it's it's not lost on me that Miss Rachel was

1769
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: out here, you know, doing the day, like holding the

1770
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: weight of the emotion and the feelings of you know,

1771
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: witnessing all of this on her on her shoulders and

1772
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: doing such a beautiful job. Love you, Miss Rachel. But

1773
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: you know she talks a lot about regulating feelings and

1774
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: helps kids understand their feelings. And i'mlike, someone needs to

1775
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: sit down do this for adults, sit these with our leaders,

1776
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,879
Speaker 1: with these leaders, and help them work through their feelings,

1777
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: because feelings are not always fact. And the justification of fear,

1778
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: like the justification for brutality is it's then it's it's

1779
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: it's nothing. There's there is no justification for what's happening.

1780
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: None that sits right with me. Not revenge, not protection,

1781
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: none of it. There's there's no excuse for it. And

1782
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I wish, goddamn there was a march. Yesterday. I was.

1783
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to drop my kids off

1784
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: at Grandma's, which for me involves getting on an eight

1785
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: am flight to Saint Louis and flying those those baby

1786
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: kids all the way to Saint Louis and then flying

1787
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: right back to New York. So I missed there was

1788
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: a march in the city for Gaza, but I will

1789
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: post a link again in the show notes, y'all to

1790
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: where there's a great organization that I've been following. And

1791
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: their acronym escapes me now, but I've been following them

1792
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: on ig and they do a really great job of

1793
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: posting anytime there's going to be a protest or march.

1794
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: They do all they do noise rallies, they do virtual

1795
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: like zoom meetings where they'll have hundreds of people join

1796
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: these zoom calls. And I highly recommend too go on

1797
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: go fund me, and I just donated to a family

1798
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: from Gaza, who Oh my God, and have someone hold

1799
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: your hand while you're looking at these they're really challenging.

1800
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: When you see babies missing limbs, and you see babies

1801
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: crying and babies you know who have lost dozens of

1802
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 1: their entire family in these airstrikes. Like it's very challenging.

1803
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: But with one people say what can I do? What

1804
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: can I do? Yes, we can protest, but I also

1805
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: think if there's there are these beautiful communities and small

1806
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: pockets of America right now, who are welcome welcoming these

1807
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: people into their homes and being host families and providing

1808
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: for them and helping them find some semblance of comfort,

1809
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: and so if we can support that in any way,

1810
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: GoFundMe does, I think a pretty decent job vetting a

1811
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: lot of these fundraising efforts, but definitely do your due

1812
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: diligence and look into them and make sure that you

1813
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: know that they're legit before you make your donation. But yeah,

1814
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: that's just something I've been doing recently.

1815
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, It's so hard. I wish I could just

1816
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: like give all my money to all these charities. I

1817
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: feel like there was a time when I had like

1818
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: quarterly donations set up to an organization and then all

1819
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this thing started happening, and I was like,

1820
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I can't like watch and do nothing.

1821
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: So I like I felt so bad, but I was like,

1822
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: that's how much money I budgeted to like get every

1823
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: quarter to donation. And so I had to call that

1824
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: other charity organization and say, I'm so sorry, I'm gonna

1825
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: stop these contributions. And then when you do that, if

1826
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: anybody's ever given to like any or you know, Save

1827
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: the Children or like Planned Parenthood or any of these.

1828
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: They'll ask you, you know what, can we ask you

1829
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: why it is that you're stopping the contribution. And I said,

1830
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use this exact same donation and move it

1831
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: to to give it to At that time, I was

1832
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: doing International Rescue Committee and they were like oh, and

1833
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: then they immediately try to explain to me how they're

1834
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: also using these donations to funnel money to families and

1835
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: god they need. And it's like, I just feel you

1836
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: just feel so badsin like there's so many I want

1837
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 2: to be able to give all of y'all money. I

1838
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: don't want to have to be like pick and choose,

1839
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 2: and it just like breaks my heart. But yeah, I mean,

1840
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: do your research, because I definitely have a few friends

1841
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: who have called out some organizations on their social media

1842
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: saying these are scams. They look like they're doing good work,

1843
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: but they're not. You really got to like do your

1844
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: due diligence when you're choosing where to donate your money,

1845
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: because worst case scenarios, you've been giving money and then

1846
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, some scandal works out the money

1847
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: never actually reached the intended people. That's why really like

1848
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 2: gofund me because you can actually you know, see who

1849
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: you're giving it to, a real people receiving the money

1850
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: most majority of the time. Obviously they could be scams

1851
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: on there too, but also just.

1852
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, it did reponize making my donation. That GoFundMe

1853
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: has some kind of like guarantee, which doesn't change the

1854
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: fact that people are and it could be potentially like

1855
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: a small sliver. I don't want to like disswaye people

1856
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: from donating, but could be enriching themselves, you know, wrongly,

1857
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: But that they offer like a guarantee. So if you

1858
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: do find that you've donated money to a scam, then

1859
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: they will like refund you or redirect.

1860
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: The funds to direct the money.

1861
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: Yes, a legitimate fund. So you mentioned i r C.

1862
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: That's a great organization. I've heard lots of I mean

1863
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: I've they go way back. I used to volunteer with

1864
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: them in college. Say the Children's another one, and then

1865
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: the pc RF Palestinian Children's Relief Fund they are pc RF. Yeah,

1866
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: they're the organization I've been following because I've been worried

1867
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: about these babies.

1868
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: Babies.

1869
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really that's a real feeling, Chris, do you

1870
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: feel that way, like the overwhelm of I think we're

1871
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: probably all feeling that way. It's like like you were

1872
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: saying earlier, decision paralysis, analysis paralysis, like where I have

1873
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: these like fifty dollars where and the world's on fire.

1874
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: This is like a tiny this is not even a

1875
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: drop in the bucket. This is like molecules, right, But

1876
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: still like to break through that noise and just make

1877
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: a decision, just send it somewhere and make peace with

1878
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: you not being able to do everything.

1879
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 3: Right because I feel that too, you know, sayings like

1880
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 3: you just there's all there's so many things you want

1881
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 3: to support, especially in the time where now, whether it's

1882
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: supporting the people and guys, and whether it's trying to

1883
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 3: keep PBSS support PBS or NPR or any of the

1884
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: just so there's always something that needs some support. And

1885
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: I think it is really hard to find where to

1886
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 3: put that that effort. But I think, like you said that,

1887
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 3: you just got to find something, you do something, You

1888
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 3: do one thing because we're all as individuals, we all

1889
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: have restrictions on what we can do financially, and you

1890
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: got to just find one thing and then not beat

1891
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 3: yourself up for not being able to help everyone, because

1892
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 3: I mean, if I think, if you're a good person,

1893
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: if you have any empathy, any type of heart, you

1894
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: obviously feel when you see these things, you feel the pain,

1895
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 3: you feel like you want to do something, but you

1896
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: will have those limitations. And I think it's important but

1897
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: difficult not to beat yourself up for being able to

1898
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: do something small and not being able to do everything,

1899
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 3: because that's just the reality. And even if it's something small,

1900
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 3: you're doing something right. It's better than nothing at all.

1901
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: I just hug your people, hug your babies like you're

1902
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: both auntie and uncle. You' all know what it's like

1903
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to have these like tiny humans and like they're no

1904
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: different just because they speak a different language and like

1905
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: look differently and they live somewhere else. It's yeah, it's

1906
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for holding my hand virtually while I

1907
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: went through that. It actually wasn't as scary and painful.

1908
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's painful, but I'm not catatonic with crying,

1909
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: which is a good thing.

1910
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do what we can, that's the thing. Even

1911
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: if it's like a hyper local Like I have a

1912
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: good friend out in SF who's like il he's like,

1913
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: I step outside and I see so much pain in

1914
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: my own neighborhood. So like I stopped contributing to these

1915
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: international organizations and I just started going to the restaurant

1916
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: nearby and getting extra takeout boxes. And every time I

1917
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: prep my meals, I prep extra meals, I go outside

1918
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 2: and I just hand them out. It's like, whatever small

1919
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: thing you can do, right, it doesn't have to be

1920
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: like I'm going to save the world, because like, ultimately

1921
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: that's how you end up crying in a corner because

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Speaker 2: you feel like you can't. You can't do what you

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Speaker 2: set out to do. You can't save the world. But

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Speaker 2: if you set these micro goals and go, like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to make a difference in this

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Speaker 2: person's life. I'm going to make a difference putting this

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Speaker 2: small donation to work, that can actually make you feel like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'm doing my part. I'm what I can right,

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Speaker 2: what I can with what I can, and that's really

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Speaker 2: all we can ask of any individual person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and thanks so much to Bafan too for supporting me,

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Speaker 1: because y'all know I was I was not worried about

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Speaker 1: like getting pushed back because Honestly, I know this community

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Speaker 1: is so amazing. I wasn't so worried about talking about

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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff more. I was worried about y'all

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Speaker 1: wanting to hear it. I was worried about y'all like

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Speaker 1: being okay with letting me go there on a show

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Speaker 1: that is really meant to be you know, it's meant

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Speaker 1: to be about us and empowering us, and yes, helping

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Speaker 1: to build wealth, and yes, helping to build security. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we don't have basic human rights, health safety,

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Speaker 1: clean food, water, drink like, you know, a shelter, these

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Speaker 1: basic then what are we even talking about? Like how

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Speaker 1: is anybody going to be free if we aren't all free?

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Speaker 1: And so y'all have been so supportive, and I did

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Speaker 1: want to point out one listener, Paalanda, who sent me

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Speaker 1: a message and she said, thank you for using your

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Speaker 1: platform to speak out on what's going on in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: I have no words for the anger and frustration I

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Speaker 1: feel as I watch this country continue to fund and

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Speaker 1: encourage this genocide. And that's just that's just like a

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Speaker 1: sample of some of the messages that I've gotten from

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Speaker 1: y'all BA fans. So I feel better just having y'all

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Speaker 1: here to talk with me and to do this with

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Speaker 1: versus doing what I was doing before, which was like

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Speaker 1: deeply depressing and by myself and doom scrolling and kind

1957
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: of feeling like what do I do? And this is

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Speaker 1: the answer. I've got a platform, freaking use it, lady.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And helping people realize that we're not all like we're

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Speaker 2: not insane, Like you're not insane. If you're sitting at

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Speaker 2: home and you're like what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 2: You're not alone. Everybody we're all into like when we

1964
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Speaker 2: commserate together and like wonder together, like there's just you

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01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: just feel so much more in community rather than being

1966
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Speaker 2: at home by yourself wondering what is there is everybody

1967
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 2: else wondering? It's like, yes, everybody else is, and you're

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Speaker 2: not insane at all. You have a heart and everybody

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Speaker 2: else is thinking the same thing. And it's weird to

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Speaker 2: let some like social pressure to not talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So I respect Mandy that you literally gone on social

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Speaker 2: media just like cried to your heart out, just be

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Speaker 2: like what's going on, like as a mom, but also

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Speaker 2: just as a human who cares about other humans. Like

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Speaker 2: we need more of that. And honestly, I think that

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Speaker 2: that's why be a fan goes so hard for you,

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01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 2: because it's like genuine and outpour of how much you

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01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 2: care about people, and honestly, you can't. You can't fake

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Speaker 2: that shit. You just can't.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean so many of us are doing

1981
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Speaker 3: that like on our own right, like it at home,

1982
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Speaker 3: just like struggling with it. And I think when you

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Speaker 3: open up like that, you you create a space for

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Speaker 3: other people to be like, Okay, I'm not feeling alone

1985
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Speaker 3: and like just sitting there talking with you two, like

1986
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Speaker 3: I feel it's not like I'm like, oh, the world's

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01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 3: amazing now, but you feel that kind of like Okay,

1988
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying by myself, yes, it's still crazy, so crazy,

1989
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Speaker 3: but at least it's not crazy. And then I'm by

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Speaker 3: myself thinking about this. It's like it's it's so important

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Speaker 3: to make those connections.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of hope for humanity.

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Speaker 1: We're we're auntie uncles and Mama's like, we gotta. I

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Speaker 1: think it's important because the kids one day are going

1995
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Speaker 1: to ask us, what did you do? Chris? What are

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Speaker 1: you going to say?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I was on Brown Ambition here.

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Speaker 2: Don't listen to this episode.

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Speaker 1: Close to this episode, I'm going to post a link

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Speaker 1: to everything I've talked about in the show so far.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to post a link to I think

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Speaker 1: John Stewart did a really beautiful interview with an actual

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Speaker 1: Palestinian advocate. I think he was a writer who had

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01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: on this show. They did, I mean a really beautiful interview,

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Speaker 1: and I thought that was really incredible. John Stewart himself

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Speaker 1: being Jewish and creating and using his platform to actually

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Speaker 1: bring a Palestinian voice and ba fam. I'm also working

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Speaker 1: on getting a Palestinian We've had a Palestinian guest on

2010
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Speaker 1: the show before, but it's now it's been two years

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Speaker 1: into this war and it's still ongoing, so we'll try

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Speaker 1: to spotlight some more voices on Brown Ambition as well.

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Speaker 1: I did want to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: statistic that I've been seeing in the news about there's

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Speaker 1: this number. I don't know if you guys have seen it.

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Speaker 1: It's all over my feet about how three hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: black women have lost their jobs in just the past

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Speaker 1: few months. And I was trying to find out, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where's this data coming from and it's actually it's coming

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Speaker 1: from the labor department, and I wanted to I wanted

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Speaker 1: to bring it up because I've seen a lot of it,

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Speaker 1: and I do think obviously black women like we are

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Speaker 1: so much more susceptible to losing our jobs during economic downturns.

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Speaker 1: We just tend to over index in the types of

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Speaker 1: roles that are easily cutable, you know, service industry roles.

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Speaker 1: And during the pandemic, we saw this. We were in

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Speaker 1: food and beverage and tourism and you know, but even

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Speaker 1: more so today in these corporate roles that are being slashed,

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Speaker 1: we over index and DEI organizations at corporations, which have

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Speaker 1: been very easy targets. Yes, there's also fewer working mothers.

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Speaker 1: There's been a steep decline in the number of working

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Speaker 1: moms who've left the who've left corporate nine to five life,

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Speaker 1: which yeah, I did it. It makes sense as companies

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Speaker 1: have issued more return to work orders.

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Speaker 2: And I just wanted to know support for working mothers,

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Speaker 2: let's call it what it.

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Speaker 1: Is like even little like none, literally none. But I

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Speaker 1: did want to use this as a chance to just

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01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: say that there is something that we can do about

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Speaker 1: three hundred like, and the number is actually not three

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. It was just updated. I know we talked

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Speaker 1: about the Labor Department data that came out. It comes

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01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: out each month, and then they get the data so

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01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: quickly that sometimes the data is not fully accurate because

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Speaker 1: not all companies have reported how many jobs they've added,

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Speaker 1: so they try to just they try to like estimate

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Speaker 1: how many jobs were added last month. So this the

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Speaker 1: jobs numbers that came at the end of July actually

2049
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Speaker 1: updated for May and June, and there was even fewer

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Speaker 1: jobs that were added, so it was even worse than

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Speaker 1: we had thought. But I wanted to just say, if

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Speaker 1: you're hearing this and you're wondering, okay, three hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: women of color, black women, who are you know without jobs?

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Speaker 1: And I know women who have been unemployed for months

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01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,440
Speaker 1: and are so talented, it's so tough be a referral

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Speaker 1: for someone like go to your network. I think we

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01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: need to stop expecting the candidates, like job seekers, to

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01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: be the one to put all their business out on

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01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: LinkedIn and to be pouring their heart out police begging

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Speaker 1: for assistance. If you work, if you are fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: to work for a great company that is hiring and

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01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: you have or even if you do, or you don't

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Speaker 1: have an internal referral process or a formal process, or

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Speaker 1: even if you don't get a referral bonus. Like one

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01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: thing that you can do that's entirely free is tell

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Speaker 1: your network, Hey, I work here. Here are the jobs available.

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Speaker 1: I am happy to be a reference or a referral

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Speaker 1: for any qualified candidates. You can email me directly, because

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Speaker 1: we need help breaking through that brick wall of the

2070
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Speaker 1: job market right now. And I mean I've seen it,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm working with women every day and it has

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01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 1: never been more challenging to be a career coach than

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01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: it is right now. Although I feel like none of

2074
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Speaker 1: the advice I've ever given changes at a time like this,

2075
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: it just becomes harder to implement because there's fewer opportunities

2076
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: out there. So what I really would love to see

2077
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: is way more people telling me from my community that

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01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 1: they are sending people cold dms and asking for referrals

2079
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: and actually getting a response, Like y'all need to be

2080
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: checking your LinkedIn inboxes, you need to be telling your network.

2081
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: You need to especially be looking for women of color

2082
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: in your network. And if they're struggling. If you see

2083
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: that they don't have a job, or you see someone

2084
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn who has been brave enough to tell their story,

2085
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 1: like offer whatever assistance you can. It doesn't cost much.

2086
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: And I do think that there's you know, small things

2087
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: that we can do to lift each other up during

2088
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: times like this, and women like we are just less

2089
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 1: likely to have access to the network that can lead

2090
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: to great opportunities to have to get our foot in

2091
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: the door in the first place. So like, any help

2092
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 1: you can give in that regard is amazing, It's welcome,

2093
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 1: and this is the time to do it. Like five

2094
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: alarm fire bell, if I had it, I would be

2095
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: it'd be going off because I'm really really concerned.

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01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 2: Bye, anybody who has a community, an audience, or like

2097
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 2: even just something like a blog or a newsletter, like

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01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 2: at a section for job openings, Like I feel like

2099
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: that's a big thing where we have we already have,

2100
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: we're well resourced, we already have so many connections and

2101
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: so many but we're just not putting the information out

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01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 2: there right Like for me, that's an easy one. Like

2103
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: if I add job openings to the emails that I

2104
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 2: send out, like boom somebody might you know, just putting

2105
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: it out there, and it doesn't take me a very

2106
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,600
Speaker 2: long time. I get a bunch of people sending me

2107
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 2: stuff on linked sending me stuff you email. What takes

2108
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Speaker 2: me five minutes to copy and paste all those links

2109
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: into one section and add it to my social media

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01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: or add it to a newsletter. Like it's the visibility

2111
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 2: is the problem because oftentimes these types of jobs, or

2112
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Speaker 2: these connections career moves, Amandy, you say this all the time,

2113
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 2: is like somebody making a referral. It's a warm intro,

2114
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 2: it's you have to know somebody. So putting those things

2115
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 2: out there for people to find, usually they're not they're

2116
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 2: going to be like high internal high, or like oh

2117
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Speaker 2: we didn't really post it, we're going to hire somebody,

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Speaker 2: or even if we posted it, we're still going to

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01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 2: hire somebody that we want that we already had an

2120
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 2: eye on for that job anyway. So we really have

2121
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 2: to go above and beyond to make sure people are

2122
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: seeing what's available when it is, because it's already so

2123
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 2: hard making those connections. But yeah, I think I think

2124
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. Like being the one who reaches out,

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01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 2: I have not done that, and I personally know for

2126
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 2: black women girlfriends of mine who are without work right now,

2127
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 2: for in different completely different cities, completely different cities, some

2128
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 2: from college, some from high school, like friends. It just

2129
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 2: it's it's all happening. And it's not even just black women,

2130
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 2: like I know a lot of black men also. I've

2131
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: got an email to emails recently from two of my

2132
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: black male friends, one from undergrad and one from another

2133
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 2: a teaching program, that both sent me an email saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: if you have any opportunities, you know, I was my

2135
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 2: position was shut down. I'm not returning to work. So

2136
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 2: it's like, it's just let's be here for each other

2137
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 2: because the reality is it's very hard. People go to

2138
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 2: a dark place when they lose their dog. There's a

2139
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 2: lot of shame in it. I'm not gonna be like,

2140
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: oh okay, everybody, that's my job, who's gonna help me

2141
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 2: find the next one? I'm going to be like feeling

2142
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 2: really insecure about that. And a lot of people just

2143
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 2: rather not put that information on blast. They don't want

2144
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: to tell anybody. So it's much easier for us to

2145
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 2: go out there and say, hey, here's job opening, there's opportunities,

2146
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 2: let me know rather than us expecting them, like you said, Mandy,

2147
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 2: us expecting them to be the ones to say, hey,

2148
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 2: any help, you know, help me out, because there's a lot.

2149
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot behind.

2150
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: That, it really is. I've had a friend who's he's

2151
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 3: been looking for work for over a year now and

2152
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 3: it's just and I'm being here in San Francisco. Fact

2153
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 3: I'm in like layoff Central because every day I come

2154
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 3: across somebody else who just got let go and they're

2155
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 3: trying to find work and it can be so disheartening.

2156
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 3: I say it with my friend, like it's like it's

2157
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 3: hard to keep your spirit up and like the energy

2158
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 3: of like, oh, yeah, I'm searching for a job. After

2159
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 3: you do this for six months, I can understand why

2160
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 3: you're just like, you know what, I'm over this, even

2161
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: though like you gotti find work, but you just feel

2162
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 3: you feel done because that's that's hard.

2163
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then you're bringing that energy into an interview if

2164
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to get one, and then it's like, oh,

2165
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, they didn't really fit the culture, like

2166
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: they don't have that Jean sa like what do you expect? Yes? Absolutely,

2167
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: and thank you all. Yeah, I think that if there's

2168
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: it's just a call to action for anyone listening. If

2169
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to be employed, like turn around, Like

2170
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: even if you don't think that you don't have to

2171
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 1: be a CEO. You don't have to be a director

2172
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: or senior director. Even if you're just like entry level

2173
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: mid level, there can't there's someone that you can help.

2174
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: You can like whether it's like going back to your

2175
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: alma mater and saying like, are there any you know,

2176
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: graduating seniors who are looking like I may have some

2177
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: leads for some entry level positions, or like going to

2178
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: a networking event, like we all have something to offer,

2179
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: but we need it to be coming from both directions,

2180
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: especially at a time like this. Yeah, And I do

2181
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: feel like it is because of that shame and because

2182
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: there's so much of it, like it can kind of

2183
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: start to feel you see the post and like it

2184
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 1: doesn't hit you the same. But I'm just saying, like,

2185
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 1: look at those posts like talk to your friends and

2186
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 1: and and thanks you all for sharing about your friends

2187
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 1: that have been unemployed. I get the same messages and

2188
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: it's like I've had a friend who bought a career

2189
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 1: coaching session with me for a friend as a gift.

2190
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: I have not even heard from that friend, and I

2191
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: know why I've had you know, it's really sad. I've

2192
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: had people offer to pay for sessions with my coaching

2193
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 1: for me, for the friends who have been unemployed, just

2194
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: out of the goodness of their heart and they're trying

2195
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: to be a good friend. But more often than not,

2196
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: the people who end up getting gifted a session never

2197
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. And I my guess is that

2198
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: when you're in that situation, it doesn't feel good to

2199
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: have someone like have to pay, you know, someone else

2200
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: to like help you out. Like it can be like

2201
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: a pride thing. It can be a shame thing.

2202
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't need no sponsor. I'm going to figure

2203
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 2: this out. I got you know. It hurts.

2204
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it can hurt. And I think so the

2205
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: way that you offer help, like offer it with compassion

2206
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: and like even and they may just want that you know. Ever,

2207
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: girl can go a long way, yeah you know, or

2208
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: I saw this opening for you can go a long way.

2209
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: Let me sit down and help you with your resume

2210
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 1: and cover letter, this that and the third like there's

2211
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: something that you can do.

2212
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 2: Also just like doing it alone, like I you know

2213
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: I if I offered that session to my friend, I

2214
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 2: would also offer my time. I'd be like, hey, I'm

2215
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 2: going to book this session. Do you want me to

2216
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 2: come with you want to do the session together, like

2217
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: a group of three of us, we can two heads

2218
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 2: are better than one, Like let's all jump on this

2219
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: zoom and like help you out, girl, because it just

2220
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 2: it just feels it feels already. Let you're so alone

2221
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 2: and you're it's like such a negative environment. Then you're

2222
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 2: by yourself, and then it festers, and then you also

2223
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 2: have to like be brave enough to like hop on

2224
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 2: this zoom call with this coach that somebody else paid

2225
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 2: by yourself. It's like by yourself again. It's like I

2226
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 2: think it's really nice if you offered to pay for that,

2227
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 2: but also join them, if they are open to having

2228
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 2: you join the call too, because then it feels like, hey, look,

2229
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 2: all of us are here to do this thing with

2230
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: you and for you because we love you, care about you,

2231
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: like we're gonna figure this thing out versus like, okay, girl,

2232
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 2: I booked it for you. Go ahead and figure out

2233
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: when you're available, jump on there and do that thing yourself.

2234
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 2: Like it just feels to be who So yeah, just

2235
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 2: be there for your people. Be there with your people too.

2236
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,799
Speaker 2: Don't just be there for them, be there with them, yeah, because.

2237
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 3: That can be hard, right, I think sometimes to just

2238
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 3: having that conversation because my friend who's been dealing with that,

2239
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 3: like he didn't even want to bring it up, and

2240
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 3: so sometimes I can't have to be the one to

2241
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 3: introduce the topic. But you can't do it like in

2242
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 3: a judging way because he probably don't tell the story,

2243
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 3: but I'm telling. Anyways, we were in a group chat

2244
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 3: with another friend and we were talking about like his

2245
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 3: job search and like what he been doing. We're giving

2246
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 3: some tips on his resume and his LinkedIn profile. And

2247
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 3: then the next day that other friend was like, oh, hey,

2248
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 3: if you do this, if you apply for a job,

2249
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 3: I'll do this type of thing. And he was like,

2250
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 3: I don't need you to babysit me. He got like

2251
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 3: angry because obviously, like you're trying to like talk down

2252
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 3: to him, like yeah, and I think to be really

2253
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 3: careful because already in a very sensitive spot. You brush

2254
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 3: your tea right right, I'm not a child, So it's like,

2255
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 3: you know, you got to be careful, like you don't

2256
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 3: like you may want the best for this person, but

2257
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 3: you also have to remember they're an adult and you

2258
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 3: know they got they got feelings about this, and you

2259
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 3: have to be you know, thoughtful when you talk to

2260
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 3: them about this episode.

2261
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your livelihood.

2262
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: Bro.

2263
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 2: It's like you feel raw, like you're like uh oh,

2264
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 2: like everything. You can be extra sensitive around that time.

2265
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 2: So you have to be like offering and saying, hey,

2266
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 2: what whatever you feel like you need, like throw out ideas.

2267
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 2: But you really do have to be like extra sensitive

2268
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 2: because this is such a raw time. It's like raw,

2269
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel like doing anything. I just want to

2270
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 2: be alone. I don't want to tell anyone. I don't

2271
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 2: want anyone in my business. There's so much it's loaded,

2272
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 2: and so we have to be really considerate of all that.

2273
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 3: For sure, I really do.

2274
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: Well. Hopefully you guys have friends as good as Chris

2275
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 1: and Yannelly.

2276
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Try my miss, I'm a lucky girl.

2277
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm a lucky girl. Aba, fam. We got to take

2278
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: a quick break, pay some bills, and we'll be right back.

2279
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 1: All right, y'all? Should we do brown boost break?

2280
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 2: Let's do it?

2281
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: She thought about it. I'm gonna go first. I think

2282
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: that's best. So y'all have some extra noodle time. You

2283
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: can pretend like you're listening to me. You don't have

2284
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: to the usual. It's fine, even though I did give

2285
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: you seventeen extra minutes by not knowing where my microphone was.

2286
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing at time, Christopher. I'm

2287
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: going to do a boostand a break. I want to

2288
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 1: do a quick break and I'm not going to go

2289
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: on to it because who needs to give this woman

2290
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: anymore shine than she already has? But I could not

2291
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: help but notice that I saw a headline that Iggy Azalea,

2292
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: yes the Iggy Azalea, Australian hip hop wanna be Black

2293
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: culture co opting flop, has decided she's going to rebrand

2294
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: herself as a business girly and is launching her own cryptocurrency's.

2295
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 2: Three years late. Like, what are you doing? People were

2296
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 2: doing that alone, that's yesterday's news. What are you doing?

2297
01:46:54,520 --> 01:47:00,919
Speaker 1: Girl? Her best? She's her best. Maybe the Australian economy

2298
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 1: also is bad if she even still lives there, So

2299
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: that's that on that. The boost I want to do

2300
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,480
Speaker 1: is for my nic Landrians.

2301
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 2: This is really a boost right now. This is really

2302
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 2: a boost right now?

2303
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't yes, listen no for Nick? Alandria should I

2304
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: don't need to do the backstory, do I? If you know,

2305
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't give.

2306
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: A little, Chris is like remind me again, I.

2307
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Don't know how to stop myself. Okay, fine, but you

2308
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: invited me Love Island, which, yes, it wrapped probably a

2309
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: month ago. Now it's season seven. It's been enough time

2310
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 1: that I should be over it by now. The reason

2311
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: it's going to come up ris this couple Alandria and Nick,

2312
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: who didn't but they were the runner ups. They did

2313
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: not win the season, but it doesn't matter because they

2314
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: are winning the economics of Love Island battle. Like if

2315
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 1: there is a competition for the best leveraging of the

2316
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: platform that a reality show can get of you, like,

2317
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: they would be winning it because they have mona tie,

2318
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 1: they have so many brand deals. They didn't even win

2319
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: the show, mind you, they didn't even win the show,

2320
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: but they are both so fucking lovable and adorable and

2321
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,799
Speaker 1: what you've seen.

2322
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 3: I remind myself.

2323
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: Because they were Jimmy fallon last week. Like, so it's Nick,

2324
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 1: who is this like Fort Lauderdale Miami boy and he

2325
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: has fallen in love with this Alabama queen Olandria, and

2326
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: their love story just unfolded. And don't even if you

2327
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 1: don't have to go back and watch the show, you

2328
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: can watch so many edits on TikTok. But nicke Alandrian's

2329
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:45,839
Speaker 1: they were they were a niche ship on Love Island,

2330
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: and I was one of the early adopters. But now

2331
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: there's a whole Nicolandria economy. Okay. So they have a

2332
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 1: brand deal with this bikini company, Kulani Kulani Kini's, Kulani Keeney's.

2333
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: They're filming. They filmed the whole ad can Pain in

2334
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: Greece in the way that these marketing teams are on it,

2335
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: like the girls are working to get nick Alandria paid,

2336
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 1: and I love that for them. So they have a

2337
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 1: bikini line with Koulani Kini's already. They have an agua

2338
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: to Keffer. I don't even know what this is. I

2339
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a coconut water, if it's a kombucha,

2340
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Keffer is giving like

2341
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: like you know, that's the kind of like yogurt drink

2342
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 1: that you get whatever. But they have they have a

2343
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: brand a beverage deal with Kefer Augwa to Keffer. Landria

2344
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: is modeling for the New York Times. She has modeled

2345
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: for They have a So the whole thing is so

2346
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Nick is white, Landri's black. If you didn't get it,

2347
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: now you get it. And the show became a writing

2348
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 1: joke that when they would make out on the show

2349
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: and they.

2350
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:46,799
Speaker 2: Had this sexscus.

2351
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: That Nick would walk away looking like he had chocolate

2352
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: on his face because he had her whole whip como

2353
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: on his face.

2354
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 2: And anyway, it was very cute.

2355
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: And he started to reveal and press interviews that he

2356
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 1: was carrying around on her lip combo because they love

2357
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 1: each other so much, they're always kissing, get it, And

2358
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: so he would carry around her lip combo to have

2359
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: it ready for her. And so then she revealed her

2360
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: lip combo was by that brand NIX, like the drug

2361
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: store brand, not anything fancy. And now they have a

2362
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: whole campaign and she has a lip combo brand, a

2363
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: lip Celandria.

2364
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 5: Okay, I see what they did there, and it.

2365
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 1: Just brings me so much joy. And I have not

2366
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: bought a bikini. I haven't bought the lip combo. I

2367
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: don't even know what the water is. I don't care,

2368
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: but I just think that they're really setting I think

2369
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: an incredible example of how you can be a reality

2370
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: star who can leverage brand deals but not be an

2371
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 1: asshole about it, and still like they've never lost sight

2372
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 1: of the fan base that has given them this platform,

2373
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 1: and they are both so humble and so sweet and

2374
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,640
Speaker 1: are constantly talking to us on the internet, and I

2375
01:50:55,720 --> 01:51:00,759
Speaker 1: just love it so much. I am, however, pulling back.

2376
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: I got a little bit too into it. I was

2377
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was almost I read one fan

2378
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: fiction oh and I said, it's too much. Pull it back, girl,

2379
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: you have a whole book to read. I could feel

2380
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: myself really using the parasocial have y'all had like a

2381
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:22,759
Speaker 1: parasocial relationship at all, Like where people on the internet

2382
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: become so yeah, so real that you are like you

2383
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 1: get upset, like you are like if they have a

2384
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: bad day, you have a bad day like that. I can't.

2385
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: I got kids, I have too much going on. So

2386
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 1: I have pulled back, But I am finding a lot

2387
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: of joy in their success and for a dark skinned

2388
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 1: black woman like Alandra to be getting finally the opportunities

2389
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 1: and to see the way that Nick loves her and

2390
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: has been such an incredible example of a man who

2391
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: can stand behind, next to alongside his woman and like

2392
01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 1: really help propel her career. Is just so cute, Daniel Nicolandria,

2393
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 1: if you ever want to come on the podcast, You're

2394
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,560
Speaker 1: always welcome. I don't know why you showed up on

2395
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:11,440
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus' mom's podcast. That was so random.

2396
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 3: Cyrus mom podcast. I don't even know who her mom was.

2397
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: She's a birde stoner and that's what she talked about

2398
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 1: a lot. She taught that. You know, she was real

2399
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: country with Landria. It was weird, but I'm just saying.

2400
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: Landry was like I like a country man, not a

2401
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 2: country stoner.

2402
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Random, so polite though I don't know. She was probably like,

2403
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: why am I this one?

2404
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 2: Why y'all book? She was probably like, agent, where are

2405
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 2: you at? Why y'allook me on here? Why y'all do

2406
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: this to me?

2407
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: She signed with an incredible like management team. Now they

2408
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: though they styled her within an inch of her life

2409
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 1: for their press tour, they have been stopping them.

2410
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 2: I've been seeing that for both Shelley and and Olandr

2411
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: have been looking freaking fly Like I'm not even gonna lie,

2412
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 2: they look like money everywhere.

2413
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: Start to step it up. I don't know what she's

2414
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 1: cooking up over there, but I'm hoping because Landry and

2415
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 1: her need to be raised.

2416
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 2: The problem is that the problem is that Love Island

2417
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: is about love, right, So like the fact that she

2418
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 2: left with a couple, where's a at ace left poor

2419
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 2: Shelley for to be by her own lonesome. It's hard

2420
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: to get these deals there where the union he had

2421
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 2: to get back to us, okay, but I don't see

2422
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: him with her out here in these streets the way

2423
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 2: these other couples are, you know, like when you see

2424
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 2: Brian and Amaya, they everywhere together holding hands, doing ads,

2425
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 2: doing this, and that you see Nick and Olandria the

2426
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 2: same thing. Shelley's out here by herself all the time.

2427
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 2: So it's very hard, I think, for her to get

2428
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 2: those type of deals because it's not a couple from

2429
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 2: Love Island the way. You know, it's hard to do

2430
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 2: by yourself. Although I will say one of them an

2431
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 2: got no shame in doing the hoodies out here about

2432
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 2: her damnself making money, So there's a way to do it, but.

2433
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 3: It's hard question for you multiple seasons, okay, So there's

2434
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 3: multiple seasons, right, so what is what season seven?

2435
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 1: Seven?

2436
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, this seasons? How long is your shelf life after

2437
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 3: your season? Like, do people just forget about you after

2438
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 3: when the new season comes out? Or do you still

2439
01:53:58,439 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 3: are you still going to be doing it now?

2440
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 1: They haven't. They've they're turning it into a franchise. Now

2441
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 1: they have Beyond the Villa.

2442
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, look for you, Chris. This show

2443
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: was never this like obsession in the mainstream media until

2444
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 2: season six. Season six was really when the cast members

2445
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 2: became influencer, celebrities status, like truly it was season six.

2446
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 2: So then season seven they were just like, oh, we're

2447
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 2: just gonna do it all over again what happened in

2448
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 2: season six. So you know, it's just very recent these

2449
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,719
Speaker 2: last two seasons where these people are getting brand deals.

2450
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: They're straight up influencers, celebrities, creators all that like from

2451
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 2: the show. So they now created the Beyond the Villa

2452
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: for the cast members of season six. They're probably gonna

2453
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 2: do the same thing with season seven, right, but it's new.

2454
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 2: It's all new. So it's kind of hard to know

2455
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 2: about the shelf life situation because it kind of still

2456
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 2: just running on season six, and season seven.

2457
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: I will just raise you a Kardashian. I a single

2458
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: three minute sex tape. I don't know how long it

2459
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: was I made that up. I don't know.

2460
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 3: I was like twelve, you don't know.

2461
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't truly I was like twelve, but it was.

2462
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 2: Just one Kardashian. It was like five of them after.

2463
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: So it's like we know, but like there's like love.

2464
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care, Like I think it's how you.

2465
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: I think anyone has the potential to be a Kardashian

2466
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 1: if they get like a huge enough platform, you just

2467
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: have to be able to leverage it. I mean, like,

2468
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Kardashian hasn't done it perfectly. I'm

2469
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: not even a fucking fan of them. I was like whatever,

2470
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, with this reality show, I

2471
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 1: think if you you can make fun of them and

2472
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: say that they're a joke and they're one hit wonder

2473
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: and that they're just a reality start blah blah blah.

2474
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: But I think the way that Nick and to bring

2475
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: it back to Nick Landria as I will, I think

2476
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 1: that the way that they are approaching it is with

2477
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: that in mind. It is like we're building. We are

2478
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: this is, this is this could be a viable career.

2479
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: We care a lot. We don't want to f this up.

2480
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 1: We want to do it thoughtfully, We want to take advantage.

2481
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Nick is out here traveling, like talk about

2482
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: leaving Landry alone. Here, He's in, He's in Seattle, he's

2483
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 1: in he's on the East coast, He's going back and forth.

2484
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 1: He's a different He's like doing all these like DJ

2485
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: parties and stuff, and he's still like supporting her. It's

2486
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: like insane. They're going so hard. Orlandria has familyators.

2487
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 2: I really do feel like that's the Serena and Cordel

2488
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 2: template though, you know, because like Serena and Cordell, Cordell

2489
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 2: talked about it. He talked about getting a brandial with

2490
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 2: jees Its then got a brandyo with Jesus and it

2491
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 2: was like a joke. It was Serena was making fun

2492
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 2: of him for that, and then now he got a

2493
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 2: brandyal with cheese It. Like, I feel like Serena and

2494
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: Cordell had every brandial in the books, Like they had

2495
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 2: makeup brands, clothing brands, they were doing travel content. Like

2496
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 2: I feel like they created the template and now we're

2497
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 2: seeing it like used by other cast members who like

2498
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 2: have that genuine like appeal to younger audience.

2499
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

2500
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: I feel like we got to give credit words due,

2501
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 2: which is Serena and Cordell.

2502
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 1: I didn't stand them as hard as Nicolandrias.

2503
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 2: I just like Serena and Cordell.

2504
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: I love them too. I'm so glad they could be

2505
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: on the Villa. I forgot how much I love them.

2506
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: I haven't watched The Villa, but I might just for

2507
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 2: just for Serena and Cordell. They were just so cute.

2508
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 2: I like them a lot more than these season seven people.

2509
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: But that's just me, even Niclandriu.

2510
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, even because here's my opinion. I told you this

2511
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 2: is my hot take. I don't think they actually really

2512
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 2: like each other like that. I think Nick likes Orlandria

2513
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 2: on birthday. I think Nick Nick likes Orlandria way more

2514
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 2: than Orlandrio. She ain't checking for him. She said it

2515
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 2: on the show that her type is a big black

2516
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 2: buff man from the South. She said it, and it's

2517
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 2: the opposite.

2518
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 1: His type is brunettes.

2519
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 2: Okay, and all the girls he was kissing was brunettes. No,

2520
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 2: but this girl dirty blonde brunette saying whatever, but they

2521
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 2: look the same. It's different when you describe a whole

2522
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 2: man that is the opposite of the man that you girl,

2523
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 2: that's not.

2524
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: But I think, no, no, no, no, she's only twenty seven.

2525
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 1: But I think if you ask a lot of people

2526
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: what their type is, the fact that she's mature enough

2527
01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: to go outside of that type that she thought she

2528
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: wanted and.

2529
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: Step outside of my.

2530
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 1: Like Decater, Alabama, there's no white guys checking for like,

2531
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, she said it really thoughtfully. Whenever her interview,

2532
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 1: She's like, she wasn't sure. She was so weary of

2533
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: Nick in the beginning, because where she's come where she

2534
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: comes from, if a white guy likes you, he's fetishizing you.

2535
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: He likes you because you're a sex object, like and

2536
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: she she she is sexy af like and she's serio

2537
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 1: of that. And I think that that No, I think

2538
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: that I think I completely understand why it may seem

2539
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: that way. She's like, so, you know, a little bit

2540
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: like reserved about it, and it's like a slow burn.

2541
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 1: But he like their love story. And this is the

2542
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: not the delusion. This is the level of like intensity

2543
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: that I have followed their relationships since they left the villa.

2544
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 1: Trust me, girl, they're going all the way. There will

2545
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: be I hope.

2546
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 2: So, but I doubt it. I feel like when it

2547
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, I will be like, I'm not even gonna

2548
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 2: say I told you so. I'm just be like I'm sorry.

2549
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 1: I can't to prove you wrong. Okay, let's have a

2550
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 1: bet when they get married, when it's their wedding day,

2551
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: you have to wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but what

2552
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: do you set my kids for the day?

2553
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,919
Speaker 2: Okay, happy to But then what happens when they get divorced?

2554
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 2: What you're doing for me?

2555
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait? I thought we're just saying are they going

2556
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 1: to get married or not they break up? If they

2557
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 1: break up, a.

2558
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 2: Big fancy wedding gig, that's going to.

2559
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: Make it get married. If they get engaged. How about

2560
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 1: they get engaged and married, then you got a babysit

2561
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 1: my kids for the day. If they break up, I

2562
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: will I will force myself to visit you in Miami.

2563
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 1: That seems like a punishment.

2564
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a punishment.

2565
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: I will punish myself. I will come stay with you

2566
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: for free.

2567
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna have to pay for us to get

2568
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 2: a hotel on the water on Miami Beach, mid Beach,

2569
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 2: not not South Beach.

2570
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm way more expensive in the night of babysitting.

2571
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean, think about emotional toll babysitting.

2572
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:03,240
Speaker 1: Though usually a babysitter you can't drugs.

2573
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 2: You make an exception for me. You're desperate.

2574
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,720
Speaker 1: Think about it. I will, I'll do something.

2575
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to figure this out. But there's a

2576
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,520
Speaker 2: deal in the works. There's a deal in the works

2577
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 2: because I feel strongly that it's not real, genuine love

2578
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 2: at the root to the core. But look, I hope

2579
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 2: that they are. I hope they're in love for real,

2580
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 2: but I feel it in my gut that they're not.

2581
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 2: But you know what, you might be right. We won't see.

2582
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 2: We will see. That's the deal in.

2583
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 1: The making here so much.

2584
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 2: Okay, wait for my brown booths. You' all ready for

2585
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 2: my brown booths.

2586
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Never should have asked that question. I got so much.

2587
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 2: He's like, she's like na seeing for who she really is. Okay,

2588
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 2: my brown booths. I finished watching a show that I

2589
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 2: had started a little while ago, but I didn't finish

2590
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 2: it because a bunch of stuff came up. It's on Netflix.

2591
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 2: It's called Forever, So we were talking a little bit

2592
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 2: about Martha's Vineyards having a moment especially for by culture.

2593
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 2: Forever if you have, i'ven't seen. It came out a

2594
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 2: little while ago. It's not like a new Ish show.

2595
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:07,320
Speaker 2: But when I tell you, my heart was so full

2596
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 2: just watching this show. I feel like there are shows

2597
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 2: on TV that highlight black like families or black people

2598
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 2: in black culture, that are genuinely like about that, and

2599
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 2: then there's some that are like, it's like they're on

2600
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 2: a stage performing blackness for a white audiences. I don't

2601
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 2: know how to explain that, but I don't know. I

2602
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 2: grew up in Bushwick and bestI Brooklyn, where, like you know,

2603
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 2: a majority of the community was black, a little bit

2604
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 2: of Puerto Rican Dominican in there too, but majority black.

2605
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 2: So I feel like when I'm watching these shows, like

2606
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 2: for example, Going Back in the Day, Living Single, Okay,

2607
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 2: that's genuine blackness. That's not a performance for a white audience.

2608
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: Right. I'm terrified about this line of your where you're going,

2609
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 1: but I'm happy.

2610
02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 2: But bosth of y'all can probably think of a show

2611
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 2: that feels like that, feels like it's for black people.

2612
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 2: But it's actually just performative for white people.

2613
02:01:58,880 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: And I.

2614
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 2: Hate to say it because you know, I love Tracy

2615
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 2: Ellis ross thru to my core, but it just doesn't

2616
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 2: feel like it was the same as Living Single and

2617
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 2: the same as Forever. Okay, so back to Forever on Netflix.

2618
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 2: Long story short, go watch it if you haven't seen it.

2619
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. If you are a millennial, it's so

2620
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 2: beautiful if you have like nostalgia for like millennial times.

2621
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 2: Also if you have like a teenage niece or a

2622
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: teenage nephew, or like a child who's like a preteen

2623
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 2: or teenager. The story essentially, the story goes that the

2624
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 2: girl in the film, the relationship is like a really sweet,

2625
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 2: innocent first love type of thing. High school girl and

2626
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 2: a high school boyfall in love. It is like young

2627
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 2: black love. But she had a little bit of a

2628
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 2: scandal where you know, a picture of her got or

2629
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:45,839
Speaker 2: video or pictures.

2630
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: I haven't heard. Is this like the first episode?

2631
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? But the point is you this brings up this

2632
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 2: really important topic of conversation that I think a lot

2633
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 2: of young people today need to be talking more about,

2634
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 2: like and having honest com stations with an adult they

2635
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 2: trust about this because there's so much pressure to like

2636
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 2: take a cute picture and send it to your boyfriend,

2637
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 2: or send me a nude or send me a this

2638
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 2: or that, And yet it feels like we're not talking

2639
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 2: about it as I don't know, it's weird, but maybe

2640
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 2: that's just me because my niece and nephews are a

2641
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 2: little bit on the younger side. But anyway, I feel

2642
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 2: like if I wanted to talk to my niece, she's

2643
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 2: a little young, but when she's the a of age,

2644
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 2: I would want to invite her over. We're gonna have

2645
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 2: a sumber party for the weekend and we're gonna binge

2646
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 2: watch forever because it allows us to talk about this

2647
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 2: topic in a really wholesome way, in a way that's healthy,

2648
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 2: I think. And it is just such a beautiful representation

2649
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:35,680
Speaker 2: of like Black Americans. They go to Martha's Vineyard, they

2650
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 2: highlight like they showcase, like you know, they're black vacation.

2651
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 2: It's just so beautiful. I just feel like for me,

2652
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 2: I just got to sit back and like really enjoy

2653
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 2: a beautiful display of black love, like young love. It

2654
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 2: a little bit nostalgic for like, you know, growing up

2655
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,919
Speaker 2: around a certain time. And also it addresses really relevant

2656
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 2: issues that I think we need to talk about with

2657
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,760
Speaker 2: like technology and social media today. So that's just my

2658
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 2: little plug for forever. I finished watching it and I

2659
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 2: give it a ten out of ten highly recommend. It

2660
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 2: was so cute.

2661
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: I love that on my list. I have to the

2662
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: kids are away for two weeks. I need. I have

2663
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: so much to catch up on.

2664
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 2: You. You're gonna binge it like you're gonna live the episodes?

2665
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 3: Is it?

2666
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:14,880
Speaker 2: Oh man? How many episodes? And let me look it up.

2667
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. I'm telling you, you're gonna be

2668
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 2: like legge.

2669
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 3: Let me see.

2670
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 2: I have a friend who's on the Gilded Age, my

2671
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:26,440
Speaker 2: friend Tiffany. She went to high school with me. She

2672
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 2: was in Hamilton. She was the bullet in the SF

2673
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 2: Bay cast and I had her on my podcast a

2674
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 2: while ago. But yeah, she is in the show. I

2675
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 2: saw her on her social media. On her Instagram, she

2676
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 2: posted behind the scenes and all these things. I was like,

2677
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 2: look shot after who gets the pad? Okay, wait, how

2678
02:04:45,160 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 2: many episodes?

2679
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:48,240
Speaker 1: So does everybody know yan Ellie went to the Fame

2680
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:48,839
Speaker 1: high school.

2681
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:54,120
Speaker 3: I didn't know this information.

2682
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. It's the age is it's like, it's

2683
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 2: the show, It's the the show. The original play Fame,

2684
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 2: and then the movie Fame was based off of the

2685
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 2: high school that I went to, which is Laguardi.

2686
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 3: Were you were you in the.

2687
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 2: I was not. I was an art major, but everyone

2688
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 2: thinks that I should have been a drama major, and

2689
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 2: I think so too.

2690
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 1: You're doing it now, I mean, yeah, kind of.

2691
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 2: I feel like I've always been a performer because I

2692
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 2: was always in a performing arts environment, but my major

2693
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 2: was like was visual arts. For whatever reason, I just

2694
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 2: always did art. Oh eight episodes, so each one is

2695
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 2: like an hour, so eight hours. You could do that

2696
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 2: in two three days.

2697
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 1: Terrible.

2698
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 2: It's just super cute. I'm telling you, like, I'm still

2699
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 2: thinking about it and I finished it like four days ago,

2700
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 2: but it's just like it's just I kind of want

2701
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 2: to rewatch it because it was so cute. I just

2702
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 2: feel like it's such one of those feel good shows

2703
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:49,360
Speaker 2: and it's very rare to find a show with really

2704
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 2: good writing acting, like you know it just I think

2705
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 2: everything was just done really really well. So Plug for

2706
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 2: Forever on.

2707
02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 3: Netflix almost like the show reckon Dation.

2708
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 2: Don't tell Nobody, I said, don't tell nobody what I

2709
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 2: said about Blackish.

2710
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: Though that you know, I never loved I loved the

2711
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 1: characters in Blackish than I loved. I loved Diane, and

2712
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:16,800
Speaker 1: I loved Racey Yellis Fross, I loved the rest I

2713
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: could oh, oh my god. And Jennifer Lewis.

2714
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lewis I love in everything. I love her and everything.

2715
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 2: I just still feel like.

2716
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:26,200
Speaker 1: The breastfeeding episode, if you know, you know, oh my.

2717
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 2: Okay, also good. I feel like they had all the

2718
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 2: right ingredients and when they mix it together, it just

2719
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:34,960
Speaker 2: didn't make a good tasting dish. You know what I'm saying.

2720
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.

2721
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 2: But anyways, forever doesn't disappoint just saying.

2722
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 3: Okay, well you know my my brown boost. Then it's

2723
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 3: kind of in vain. You got to let me right

2724
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 3: into it. So it's not a TV show, it's a movie.

2725
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:51,800
Speaker 3: But you're talking about Hamilton. I came across this show

2726
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 3: a while ago. You know this movie a while ago.

2727
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 3: It's called A Nice Indian Boy and it stars Have

2728
02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:00,160
Speaker 3: you seen this? Have you have you seen this movie?

2729
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 1: My girls? Darna guard gonna say.

2730
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 3: She was in the movie You have a Karan Jathan

2731
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 3: played the King and King George and Hamilton the original cast.

2732
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah or no.

2733
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 1: Was he was f Yeah, the dude and Frozen.

2734
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 3: I had no idea. I've never seen Frozen.

2735
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 1: Sozen you baby said you didn't watch Frozen? She was?

2736
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 3: I think she was young for it. So I've seen

2737
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:32,480
Speaker 3: I Sa. I've seen ma Wana like ninety thousand times, Okay,

2738
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 3: and now I've seen Kpop Demon Hunter about twenty five times.

2739
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 2: Now you've got to watch Frozen Frozen. You'll get Jonathan.

2740
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 2: You've played Christophe. He's so good.

2741
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: There you good?

2742
02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alice fun He's in this movie. It's amazing. It's

2743
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 3: like one of the movies. It seems off the bat

2744
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be cheesy, but yeah, so much hard.

2745
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 3: It's such a fun story. It's an interesting story, so

2746
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 3: well acted. I can't say enough about it.

2747
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 1: He played the nice Indian boy. We should shout him out.

2748
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 3: Koran so I think I'm sorry I from pronounce his

2749
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 3: name correctly. I've seen him in most recently in Deadpool.

2750
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:09,160
Speaker 3: He was in all the Deadpool movies. He's hilarious, funny

2751
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 3: and everything I've seen him in. But He's great lead

2752
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 3: in this movie. You have to deal with the dad

2753
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 3: eamics of like the pressure of him needing to get

2754
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,200
Speaker 3: married but also being gay and not knowing if his

2755
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:21,000
Speaker 3: father is going to accept him, dealing with the concept

2756
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:23,280
Speaker 3: of like arranged marriage and do they his parents really

2757
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 3: love each other and how does he feel about that?

2758
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 3: You deal with, you know, uh, dating outside of your

2759
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 3: race and the complications that come with that, and how

2760
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 3: his family accepts it, and his sister's in a relationship

2761
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,640
Speaker 3: that she didn't really want to be in, and you know,

2762
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 3: it's it's there's so many layers to it. The acting

2763
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 3: is so good. I love this movie. It's one of

2764
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 3: the movies. When I finished it, I was like, I

2765
02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:41,920
Speaker 3: didn't know anything about this movie, and I loved it.

2766
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:42,840
Speaker 3: One of my favorite movies.

2767
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't know people do that's brave. It's hard to

2768
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 1: get me to watch new ip and like, un you

2769
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 1: know something that is new and yeah something.

2770
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 2: It's a risk, but when it comes highly recommended, I

2771
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 2: give it a chance. I jotted down because I'm always like,

2772
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 2: if Jamie and I will be watching something, we'll run

2773
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 2: out of episodes and then we'll be like, oh, what

2774
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 2: are we gonna watch next and then we just like

2775
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 2: will scroll and be like this is so risky, Like

2776
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 2: should we just should we just click something and watch

2777
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 2: it without a recommendation, Like I can't do it.

2778
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 1: I have to.

2779
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 2: It has to be recommended to me by somebody, because

2780
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 2: I've been burned watching stuff that I thought was going

2781
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 2: to be good and it's just just waste time.

2782
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 1: The same movie.

2783
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 3: It's a movie, it's on Hulu. It's it's like a comedy.

2784
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 3: It's to say it's a rom com. I put it

2785
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 3: in that category.

2786
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just adorable. I could just love, you know.

2787
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 1: And then you can watch Zarna's comedy special before or

2788
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: after it. It is hilarious, so good. That was my

2789
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 1: latest date night. We got to go see a screening

2790
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 1: of it with a bunch of white folks on the

2791
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: Upper East.

2792
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh okay, not all right?

2793
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:50,040
Speaker 1: An interesting crowd. What is it now? I have anxiety

2794
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: when I get into a room and it's just white people.

2795
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:55,480
Speaker 1: Now I've lost it. I've lost my my tolerance for it.

2796
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 1: When I got on the flight yesterday I come into

2797
02:09:57,560 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 1: New York from Saint Louis, and I was the very

2798
02:09:59,320 --> 02:10:04,280
Speaker 1: last person to because CPE time and I board as

2799
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:11,560
Speaker 1: a plane and it was just a sea of you know, faces,

2800
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 1: and I was so uncomfortable. Oh what is that?

2801
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 3: I think you do kind of lose it, Like I wouldn't.

2802
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,160
Speaker 1: Go to any of my Wisconsin family reunions anymore.

2803
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 3: You gotta get reacted, you gotta get reacclimated after if

2804
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 3: you spend that time where you like the only black

2805
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 3: person or only brown person, after a while you kind

2806
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:30,160
Speaker 3: of like, Okay, this is what it is.

2807
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:32,400
Speaker 1: Talk to us all day. It's really nice.

2808
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, does it come and go? Does you do you

2809
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 2: feel like comes in waves or like your tolerance or

2810
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 2: do you feel like it just like I just clock it.

2811
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 1: So much more now. I think when I was in corporate,

2812
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 1: I was more used to it, you know. But even

2813
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 1: in corporate, like my team itself in New York, we

2814
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:50,680
Speaker 1: were very diverse. So i'd go to when I went

2815
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:53,880
Speaker 1: to Charlotte to our head to our headquarters, I would

2816
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 1: feel it. But like, yeah, maybe now I'm just like

2817
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 1: because I know that, it's just it doesn't feel safe.

2818
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 1: That's what I feel. I feel a lack of safety.

2819
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know that.

2820
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 1: There were so many I mean, every single eyeball, every

2821
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 1: on me, every single one. It was deeply uncomfortable walking

2822
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 1: down that aisle.

2823
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:15,520
Speaker 3: I do have a question. Did you make a plane

2824
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 3: late where you like so late that No?

2825
02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: I saw the plane itself was delayed, and they said

2826
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 1: we had enough time to myself over and I found

2827
02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 1: a corner to do the edit a show in edit

2828
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 1: some clips.

2829
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:27,320
Speaker 2: But she was gonna say she went to get something

2830
02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 2: to eat.

2831
02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 1: Of course, No, girl ate for free at the land

2832
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 1: my podcast.

2833
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 2: That's why you were late.

2834
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:38,680
Speaker 1: I was editing some clips. They said come back by

2835
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 1: four ten. I got back at three forty five. I

2836
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 1: didn't know they were done boarding.

2837
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:44,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was well, you know sometimes when they

2838
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 2: say there's a delay and then they end up moving

2839
02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:48,200
Speaker 2: a little faster, so you always got to play a

2840
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:48,800
Speaker 2: little earlier.

2841
02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was. It was odd, but I'm

2842
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,000
Speaker 1: so glad you showed her that movie out the Crowns.

2843
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 3: Great movie. I highly recommended. And it's a comedy so

2844
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:00,120
Speaker 3: it's not that long too. So yeah, a big time.

2845
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:02,600
Speaker 2: And shout out to Zana Guard because I love her.

2846
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's she's the best. She's like the

2847
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 1: most delightful human.

2848
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:07,960
Speaker 2: I love her so much.

2849
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:11,080
Speaker 1: I bought I was such an awkward person fan when

2850
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 1: she invited She was so kind to invite me to

2851
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:16,120
Speaker 1: the screening of her special and I before I went,

2852
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to get a her gift.

2853
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: I went to Home Goods and I bought her So

2854
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:25,480
Speaker 1: if you read her book, I don't have to listen

2855
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:25,880
Speaker 1: to her book.

2856
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:26,680
Speaker 2: It's okay.

2857
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 1: Listen to it. The audio book, y'a on Nelly, Oh my,

2858
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 1: I have a I mean, if you wanted to read

2859
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:35,720
Speaker 1: it in her voice, yes, she reads it. Oh yes,

2860
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 1: and Jennifer and Jennifer Lewis you want to talk about

2861
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 1: a good audio book?

2862
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:42,320
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lewis, I read, oh so good.

2863
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:45,760
Speaker 1: Her first Yeah so? But Zarnagogue anyway, her is her

2864
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 1: book is This American Woman and Anyway. In the book,

2865
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 1: she tells a story of her daughter buying her this

2866
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: like water, fancy water picture from like for like spa

2867
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,640
Speaker 1: water you put like your cucumber slices in it and that,

2868
02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:59,840
Speaker 1: and she bought her this gift and instead of putting

2869
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:02,839
Speaker 1: like beverage in it, her daughter filled it with notes

2870
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:06,680
Speaker 1: of courage and inspiration from her friends to get Zarna

2871
02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 1: to pursue her career as a comedian because she's only

2872
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 1: been a comedian for like five years, which is insane.

2873
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:15,120
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I was like, I'm going to get

2874
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: her a little picture, and so I got her like

2875
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 1: a little water jug, like a little tea infuser, like

2876
02:13:19,720 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 1: you put the tea. It's so cute. It's pink and

2877
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:26,960
Speaker 1: had a gold lid. Anyway, handing a gift to someone

2878
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 1: that you don't know in a green room of strangers

2879
02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 1: is like one of the single most awkward experiences.

2880
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're probably like.

2881
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:40,480
Speaker 1: Like I've all crinkled because I've driven it down from Westchester.

2882
02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:43,040
Speaker 2: But it's also a good gift because you read her book,

2883
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:44,880
Speaker 2: so it's kind of sweet.

2884
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,160
Speaker 1: You didn't know that yet. I was like, I promise

2885
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: it's not weird when you open it, you're.

2886
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 3: That's a great way to answer a gift promise.

2887
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:55,680
Speaker 1: Handed her a piece of garbage, I was like like,

2888
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 1: and I was like asking her to throw it away. No, No,

2889
02:13:58,040 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 1: she was sweet about it. She was like she was

2890
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:01,640
Speaker 1: just like, oh, a gift.

2891
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 2: You didn't have to give me a gift, like I

2892
02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:03,720
Speaker 2: think she.

2893
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,200
Speaker 1: I could think she was anxious about it because she's like,

2894
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 1: oh god, this woman has probably given me something terrible,

2895
02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:11,760
Speaker 1: but she DMed me later she said she loved it

2896
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:15,680
Speaker 1: so like thank Gussie, that was a good so sweet.

2897
02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:18,560
Speaker 1: But even if it weren't for that, like her her

2898
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,000
Speaker 1: book This American Woman, and go listen to her interview

2899
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 1: on the show if you haven't yet, y'all.

2900
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm pulling up the Libby app right now because I'm

2901
02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:26,560
Speaker 2: about to get that on my list.

2902
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh I wonder if it's available.

2903
02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:29,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm literally checking right now.

2904
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:32,680
Speaker 1: Love a lippy all right, ba fan, This was a

2905
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,960
Speaker 1: doozy of an episode and I just got an error

2906
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 1: from riverside saying that my video didn't record, so who

2907
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:41,080
Speaker 1: knows if you'll see it on YouTube or now. This

2908
02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 1: is an audio exclusive exclusive. Thank y'all so much for

2909
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:52,000
Speaker 1: spending time with me. All right, ba Fan, until next time,

2910
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:54,280
Speaker 1: we will see you when don't I see you on

2911
02:14:54,360 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 1: Friday for the ba QA, on Sunday for the wash Day.

2912
02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:59,920
Speaker 1: Wou saw almost every other day. I'm here in your

2913
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,560
Speaker 1: You're welcome. I hope you're liking it. Also, if you're

2914
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:05,560
Speaker 1: not liking it, please tell me because this is a lot.

2915
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:07,640
Speaker 2: Of works so much.

2916
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 3: It is a lot of work that's doing a lot

2917
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:10,000
Speaker 3: of episodes.

2918
02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:13,600
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I do. I'm doing the number.

2919
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hire an intern. I don't even have

2920
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 1: time to hire an intern. I need help, y'all. My

2921
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 1: summer intern's done. I need a fall one. I need it.

2922
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 1: I could probably, I think, I genuinely if I had

2923
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:26,440
Speaker 1: the money, I would have two full time staff, like

2924
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 1: just helping with the show. There'd be one on clips,

2925
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:33,879
Speaker 1: there'd be one on production, maybe even three.

2926
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:36,960
Speaker 2: No, seriously, the more the better because there's so many

2927
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 2: parts of it, the admin part, the logistics, and there's

2928
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:41,400
Speaker 2: also like the just sit up in hard work like

2929
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:43,800
Speaker 2: pull out clips. Although I do use AI a lot

2930
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,080
Speaker 2: for my short clips now and it's so much of

2931
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:46,560
Speaker 2: a time.

2932
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:51,000
Speaker 1: Saying frivor side AI is t it's very good.

2933
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 2: I've using clap AI and restream AI and they both

2934
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:57,280
Speaker 2: have been awesome at taking like a one hour and

2935
02:15:57,320 --> 02:15:59,000
Speaker 2: a half long video and just turning it into like

2936
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:02,400
Speaker 2: eighteen one minute reels or bites or clips. It's amazing

2937
02:16:02,480 --> 02:16:04,880
Speaker 2: and it puts capture on it and everything so worth it.

2938
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:06,600
Speaker 1: Okay, what are those called again?

2939
02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:10,200
Speaker 2: Clap k lap clap dot AI and then restream if

2940
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:12,680
Speaker 2: you use restream or Riverside and restream are similar where

2941
02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 2: they let you stream, but restream one automatically creates little

2942
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:17,520
Speaker 2: shorts when you're done.

2943
02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:20,840
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Riverside does it? Two? Riverside is not that?

2944
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:23,040
Speaker 1: Are those free apps? Or are they No?

2945
02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to say they're free, probably like one

2946
02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:26,800
Speaker 2: hundred and something dollars for like the subscription.

2947
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:29,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha, that's about Riverside.

2948
02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2949
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm always down to share with the BA fam. More

2950
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:37,160
Speaker 1: places to get clips if you need yourself. What's it

2951
02:16:37,240 --> 02:16:38,840
Speaker 1: like to not have to do everything and put on

2952
02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:41,280
Speaker 1: the internet? The other day?

2953
02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:42,959
Speaker 2: I know we wrap it up, but I have to

2954
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 2: say it. The other day, I Jimial and I hired

2955
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 2: this woman to come into our apartment and clean everything,

2956
02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:49,760
Speaker 2: deep clean for us. And she was here for four

2957
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:51,600
Speaker 2: or five hours. She got here at nine thirty in

2958
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:54,680
Speaker 2: the morning, she left at three pm. And when I

2959
02:16:54,800 --> 02:16:58,640
Speaker 2: tell you, it was under two hundred bucks. She was amazing.

2960
02:16:59,040 --> 02:17:01,320
Speaker 2: And all that time she was cleaning, I got so

2961
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:04,520
Speaker 2: much work done. And then I was like anxious that

2962
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:06,199
Speaker 2: morning when I woke up because I still had to clean.

2963
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:07,280
Speaker 2: I had all the stuff that I had to do,

2964
02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:09,600
Speaker 2: and just being able to cross that off the list

2965
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:12,959
Speaker 2: and open the microwave and see no crust, no sauce, Like,

2966
02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:15,800
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, she cleaned everything. It was like amazing.

2967
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:18,119
Speaker 2: I was like, this woman, she changed my life. So

2968
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to keep doing that. And I feel

2969
02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:23,480
Speaker 2: like the return on that investment is so worth. It

2970
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 2: saved me five hours of time, and the money that

2971
02:17:27,320 --> 02:17:29,080
Speaker 2: I could make in five hours is much more than

2972
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:31,040
Speaker 2: the cost of her cleaning for five hours, So that

2973
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:34,080
Speaker 2: just makes sense mathematically. So I'm never going back, never

2974
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:34,560
Speaker 2: going back.

2975
02:17:34,720 --> 02:17:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm just shocked your place even took five hours. It

2976
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:38,879
Speaker 1: was it To me, it felt immaculate.

2977
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:41,520
Speaker 2: It was like clean on the surface, you know, like

2978
02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:43,680
Speaker 2: when I wipe everything and clean it up. She went

2979
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:47,360
Speaker 2: into the crannies and crevices. Okay, she got the dust

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Speaker 2: from places I didn't know there was dust collected. She

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Speaker 2: did that type of cleaning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it was amazing. All right, let's wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: Mama's hungry to eat something. Get the food all right,

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Speaker 1: y'all until next time, fan Bye, okay va fam, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening to this week's show. I

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Speaker 1: want to shout out to our production team, Courtney, our

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Speaker 1: editor Carla our fearless leader for idea to launch productions.

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Speaker 1: I want to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and

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Speaker 1: Cameron McNair for helping me put the show together. It

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Speaker 1: is not a one person project, as much as I

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Speaker 1: have tried to make it so these past ten years,

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Speaker 1: I need help y'all, and thank goodness I've been able

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Speaker 1: to put this team around me to support me on

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Speaker 1: this journey and to y'all bea fam I love you

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Speaker 1: so so so so much. Please rate, review, subscribe, make

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Speaker 1: the latest updates on upcoming episodes, our tenth year anniversary

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Speaker 1: celebrations to come, and until next time, talk to you

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Speaker 1: soon via bye.