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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 1: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic, christ

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Speaker 1: is to the country may be freezing, but the FBI

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Speaker 3: As both suspected killer Alejandro Costillo and alleged drug kingpin

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Speaker 4: We got the final read on third quarter GDP showing

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Speaker 4: now at four point four percent. That is a huge

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Speaker 4: President Trump said a large armada of US warships heads

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Speaker 5: Nearly a month after antigovernment tests began in the country.

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Speaker 6: Today, state officials will ask a judge to extend a

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Speaker 6: halt the deployment of federal agents into Minnesota after three

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Speaker 6: On January seventh.

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Speaker 7: We did not see the President today, but he was

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Speaker 7: active on social media, calling on democratic governors and mayors

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Speaker 7: He also accused the mayor of Minneapolis and governor of

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Speaker 1: Our goal was to apprehend.

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Speaker 7: Criminals, but there's growing uproar over ICE tactics and administration

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Speaker 7: claims without evidence, that the latest shooting victim, Alex Pretty,

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily. Today is January twenty six, twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: Anno domini, And as you can see, we have decamped Washington,

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Speaker 1: the Scott Adams Memorial, the Scott Adams Celebration of life,

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Speaker 1: and it was incredible honor for me to be there,

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Speaker 1: incredible honor to visit with his family, to visit his home,

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Speaker 1: incredible patriots and incredible people to say goodbye and see

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Speaker 1: man who gave every last measure of devotion to his

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Speaker 1: What we see in Minneapolis is the rise of a

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Speaker 1: communist insurgency. This is the Battle of Minneapolis. And what

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Speaker 1: And for all you people out there that want to

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Speaker 1: a minute. That been out there night after night, braving

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Speaker 1: We're gonna dig into this a little bit more, and

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Speaker 1: I want people to lock in. You need to lock

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Speaker 1: in right now. This was not a peaceful protester This

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Speaker 1: was not a legal observer. This was an agitator. This

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Speaker 1: was an instigator. Stop using leftist framing. Stop using the

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Speaker 1: language of the left. All of this context matters. And

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Speaker 1: And our favorite guy for that, he wrote the book

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Speaker 1: The Law of Self Defense. It's Andrew Branka from the

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Speaker 1: Andrew Branca Show. He joins us, Now, Andrew, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man. How about yourself? I'm doing well

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Speaker 1: with your your commentary. Your analysis has been going hyper

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Speaker 5: I just can't tell. So people keep sending me images

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Speaker 5: Right, shots are being fired, right, it would be reasonable for.

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Speaker 1: that's called the personal responsibility of Alex Pretty. The behavior,

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Speaker 1: Andrew bra Cup, where can people go to follow you

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Speaker 1: All right, take care Andrew Branca. Make sure you go

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Speaker 1: check out that book, folks. The law of self defense.

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Speaker 1: Know the law if you're carrying, if you were Gonnat

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Speaker 1: Jack Pasobac, Human Events daily.

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Speaker 12: About influencers. These are influences and they're friends and mine.

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Speaker 1: Make the switch today. All right, folks, So we talked

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Speaker 1: This isn't just about Minneapolis. This is about Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: This is about remigration. Are we going to be allowed

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Speaker 1: Who governs? Will we be governed by the mob? Will

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Speaker 1: This is about the fraud of Minneapolis, the fraud of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: It's about Tim Walls. It is about everything that they

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Speaker 1: the hill. Take the hill. If we can't take Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: how are we ever going to make its Chicago to Detroit,

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Speaker 1: to Philly, to Baltimore, to LA to New York. No,

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Speaker 1: Now you've got the road to all of them. The

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Speaker 1: road to Vienna goes through Minneapolis. And what's to Antifa

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Speaker 1: saying you run out there. We've got the reports up.

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Speaker 1: They're saying that they want to make Minneapolis their Fallujah.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. And they go back and they

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Speaker 1: look at the Battle of Fallujah as the time when

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Speaker 1: the tide was turned in the Iraq War, when the

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Speaker 1: insurgency really kicked off. It's our Cowie Solder, all of

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Speaker 1: them coming up through the Battle of Fallujah Solder City.

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Speaker 1: Is that what we want? Do we want them to

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Speaker 1: do this? I say, bring it on. If that's what

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Speaker 1: you want, bring it on. Tim Walls knows this a

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Speaker 1: disaster for him. Why is this not happening? Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, he could issue an executive order right now,

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Speaker 1: right now and say work with ice. He could just

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Speaker 1: say work with ice. Let him into the prisons, let

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Speaker 1: him into the jails. That's all you'd have to do.

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Speaker 1: Piece of paper, you could tweet it done. This is

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Speaker 1: all on Tim Walls. He's doing this on purpose, and

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Speaker 1: don't think for a second that he's not, because he's

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Speaker 1: trying to test you. This is about testing the administration

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Speaker 1: testing the resolve of the patriot movement, testing the resolve

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Speaker 1: of MAGA. Are you going to fail that test? Are

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Speaker 1: you going to let the likes of Tim Walls and

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Speaker 1: these scum win, These people who laughed when Charlie was murdered,

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Speaker 1: who celebrated, who cheered? Is that what you want? You're

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Speaker 1: gonna let them win? And then they're putting up stuff. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was the supporter of the Second This isn't

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Speaker 1: about the Second Amendment. It's about ice raids. It's about remigration.

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Speaker 1: It's about sending these people home. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: to the illegals, there's a much safer way. There's a

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Speaker 1: much safer option if you want to deal with that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, than any of this stuff. Just leave,

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Speaker 1: Just go home, get out. There's been more arrests right

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Speaker 1: here in Florida and Texas than there were in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: But the government is working with the federals. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's safer. Lock in patriots, lock in the right back

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Speaker 1: human events.

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Speaker 8: Faily continues, Hey Jack is Jack? Where's Jack? Where sing?

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Speaker 1: Jack?

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Speaker 9: I want to see you.

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Speaker 8: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 8: You know, we have an incredible thing We're always talking

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Speaker 8: about the fakes and the band, but we have guys

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Speaker 8: and these are the guys should be getting bullasushi.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pacific, we are back live. We're here

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Speaker 1: West Palm Beach and we're covering down on the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Minneapolis. So I wanted to bring up two veterans

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Speaker 1: of the Battle of Minneapolis, two actual legal observers, by

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Speaker 1: the way, uh, the two guys who are out there

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Speaker 1: who are working hard on the ground, not to tell

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Speaker 1: us the truth about what's happening in these riots, but

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Speaker 1: also what's going on with the Somali invasion. It is

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Speaker 1: human events Field correspondent Kevin POSOBC and the black Conservative preacher.

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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, you do it pretty well, So walk

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Speaker 1: me through, and Kevin, we'll start with you, us through

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Speaker 1: what happened with this this hotel situation last night, the

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Speaker 1: standoff that led to one it looked like a border

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Speaker 1: patrol guard or or or excuse me, Youure of Prisons

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Speaker 1: guard who's out there standing in the breach.

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Speaker 11: Yes, so we got we got early reports that you know,

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Speaker 11: Antifa cells came and said there were two ICE agents

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Speaker 11: staying at.

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Speaker 13: This hotel in Saint Paul and that you know, they

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Speaker 13: were starting to raid.

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Speaker 11: We saw last week where they would protest out front

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Speaker 11: of hotels, but tonight they up at a level and

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Speaker 11: broke through into the lobby and started trashing the refrigerators,

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Speaker 11: breaking windows, spray crating f ice all over the windows,

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Speaker 11: and beating the trash cans. It was like a mob

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Speaker 11: from from the beginning, and so there was a response

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Speaker 11: I believe it was from corrections officers, and so that

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Speaker 11: escalated very quickly. Is about two dozen people, and then

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Speaker 11: at one point an agent came out out with what

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Speaker 11: I believe.

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Speaker 13: Was a shotgun and was able to clear the lobby

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Speaker 13: of people.

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Speaker 11: But then as we see, like someone threw either an

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Speaker 11: empty tier gas canister at him or just a block

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Speaker 11: of ice something jagged enough to slice his fingers open.

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Speaker 13: And so that also escalated things.

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Speaker 11: And I wanted to point out Jack that Minneapolis Police

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Speaker 11: they did respond, but it was about two hours after

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Speaker 11: And keep in mind this is only like across the river,

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Speaker 11: maybe five to ten minute drive from their precinct downtown Minneapolis.

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Speaker 13: And you know when they finally.

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Speaker 11: Arrived, it was I mean, they had ems trucks, about

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Speaker 11: a dozen squad cars, and I believe state troopers as

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Speaker 11: well a riot squad. But this, this, this is getting

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Speaker 11: out of control. These people are organized. There was black

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Speaker 11: block Antifa there, so it's bad.

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Speaker 1: And let me let me go to a preacher. So

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Speaker 1: you've done a lot of work over in Portland. You've

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Speaker 1: been covering down there with my colleague, our colleague Katie

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Speaker 1: Davis Court and so many others. What you're seeing on

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Speaker 1: the ground now in Minneapolis, These things that I've been

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Speaker 1: seeing online that some of the information I've got, are

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Speaker 1: we now seeing organized Antifa groups and insurgents flood into

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis from other parts of the country, I believe.

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Speaker 10: So, you know, being here in Minneapolis versus Portland, Portland

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Speaker 10: looks like a cakewalk compared to compared to hear and

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Speaker 10: what I'm seeing in a few minutes ago you mentioned

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Speaker 10: being governed by these people, and going back a little bit,

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Speaker 10: especially with cam exposed over the past couple of days

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Speaker 10: the signal gate, you know, we were being followed, tailed, stopped.

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Speaker 10: I'm talking about ten cars following us, tracking us. They're

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Speaker 10: just saying wear ice, telling us that we're ice because

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Speaker 10: we're wearing masks. Imagine that. And then if we up

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Speaker 10: out the car, they start blowing the whistles.

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Speaker 1: As you're saying, these are organized surveillance teams, spotters observers

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Speaker 1: that they've got all over key areas and they're coordinating

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Speaker 1: in these signal chats.

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Speaker 10: Correct, And it's key areas, but a big portion of

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Speaker 10: the city. It's not just like a small though area.

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Speaker 10: Is a big portion of the city where these people

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Speaker 10: are standing on every single corner waiting all day long,

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Speaker 10: including going to restaurants and being in restaurants waiting and

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Speaker 10: watching to see if ice comes in there.

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, looking at all of this, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking your opinion in terms of your analysis.

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Speaker 1: We know that Alex pretty was out there, he was

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Speaker 1: involved in this. We now know that there was a

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Speaker 1: mobilization alert that was sent through the signal network that

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Speaker 1: he was a member of. Does it seem like he

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Speaker 1: was one of when they say legal observers, that's what

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Speaker 1: it actually is. He's a spotter for this insurgent network.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's the role he was playing.

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Speaker 10: I do believe that's the role is playing, and that's

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Speaker 10: still impeding on what they're doing because once you're spading,

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Speaker 10: you start communicating so that other people get to the

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Speaker 10: area within ninety seconds. I mean, and these people really

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Speaker 10: show up quick, and I'm talking about by the masters

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Speaker 10: and by the numbers, because they start blowing the whistles,

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Speaker 10: they start hawking their car horns and getting the neighbors

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Speaker 10: and the community's attention to respond because ICE agents are there.

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Speaker 12: To do their job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so what you're what you're describing as a

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Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy, this is a criminal conspiracy to impede operations

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Speaker 1: of law enforcement. This is not going out and holding

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Speaker 1: a sign or chanting or something like that. They're taking

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Speaker 1: active steps in furtherance of the conspiracy to obstruct justice

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Speaker 1: and obstruct law enforcement. Kevin.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so yeah, not only that.

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Speaker 11: But these watchers, these community watchers, it's it's it's getting chaotic.

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Speaker 11: Like they got leaked with signal Gate. Now they're trying

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Speaker 11: to get organized again. But as we saw last night

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Speaker 11: coming up on the scene, like there's innocent bystanders that

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Speaker 11: are like in lobbies, actually scared. And then we had

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Speaker 11: people coming up to us like oh my gosh, like

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Speaker 11: what happened, like just like totally oblivious. So you keep

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Speaker 11: that in mind too. I mean, we're doing what we

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Speaker 11: came down here and as far as like cooperation from

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Speaker 11: Jade Vance's message last week, it's it's it's it's getting

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Speaker 11: confusing with everybody trying to get in, and then people

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Speaker 11: want to get in, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 11: like they are following Ice and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 11: like you know, it's getting very dangerous for people that

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Speaker 11: might just want to be there to like blow a whistle.

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Speaker 13: It's like that's why I said this isn't a game,

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Speaker 13: or they could.

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Speaker 1: Well and I think I think Renee Good and Alex

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Speaker 1: pretty just found that out.

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Speaker 13: They sure did, They sure did.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly it. And yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 11: God forbid that like with us, like we're just for orders.

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Speaker 13: We got called in. They thought we were Rice. But

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Speaker 13: what if they call in and it's like a gang

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Speaker 13: member or something, or a.

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Speaker 11: Sex defender or like whatever, and they just you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean, because we had to stop at one

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Speaker 11: point and get out, and a couple of the other

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Speaker 11: clips went viral for that because we got out and

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Speaker 11: confronted these people saying like hey, like.

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Speaker 14: Stop, please stop stalking us and harassing us. And with

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Speaker 14: that to piggyback off what Kevin is saying when we

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Speaker 14: got out. They're asking us for our credentials, they're asking

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Speaker 14: us for our ID.

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Speaker 10: And to prove that we live or don't live here

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Speaker 10: in Minneapolis. So they don't even want illegals in their

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Speaker 10: own area because we are outsiders, right.

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Speaker 13: Right, imagine that. Yeah, they tried to flip the tables

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Speaker 13: on us.

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Speaker 1: Well, and and and of course what they're so it

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Speaker 1: sounds like what they're doing though, is there creating there

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Speaker 1: They have uh, they have taken effective control of the street.

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Speaker 1: They have taken operational control of the streets. And and

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Speaker 1: by the way, so I just want to say this again,

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Speaker 1: all of this is going on the Minneapolis Police Force,

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Speaker 1: the State Police, the National Guard of Minnesota. Are are

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota State Police, the National Guard in Minnesota? Are

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Speaker 1: they doing anything? Are they responding to this criminal conspiracy

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Speaker 1: in any way? Oh?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean the National Guards here, but they're they're

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Speaker 11: busy passing out donuts from Dunkin Donuts, a corporation by

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Speaker 11: the way that you know he brought that up. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: last last week we went and got pizza and donuts

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Speaker 11: for everybody, but it was from mom and pop shops

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Speaker 11: American small businesses.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, they got that there. That's National Guard. That's

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Speaker 13: what they're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: When when and and preacher, I'll go, I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to you. You've seen these them organized on on the

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Speaker 1: streets in Portland. Have you ever seen them massed up

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Speaker 1: in numbers like this the way you're describing, going block

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Speaker 1: by block, bring the entire city, No, sir, I.

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Speaker 13: Mean in Portland.

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Speaker 10: You know you had the twenty twenty when they're destroying

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Speaker 10: and breaking businesses, and that's what they were focused on

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Speaker 10: the most. But the organization is not nothing in comparison

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Speaker 10: to what I'm seeing here in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: So they've evolved their organizational capabilities. And look, keV, you

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Speaker 1: and I have been seeing this, going back to Chaz

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, going back to the DNC in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen in Philadelphia and other places and stuff that we've done.

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Speaker 1: So what we're seeing is the evolution of tactics, techniques,

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Speaker 1: tactics that they have. It seems to me by the

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Speaker 1: We've seen that throughout their social media and of course

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Speaker 1: with then a Good and others. But it would also

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Speaker 1: seem to me that they probably have staging locations as

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Speaker 1: well throughout the city where they're waiting for, you know,

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Speaker 1: for one of these alerts to go off, so that

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Speaker 1: they can move in a large group like that. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to caver you one, I will say, but

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Speaker 1: we're out of time for the segment. I will say,

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Speaker 1: stay safe, stay warm. keV. I know, I know Mom

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Speaker 11: You can follow me on x and Instagram at Kevin Pasovic.

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Speaker 1: All right, and Preacher you can follow me on.

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily continues.

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Speaker 12: Betty spent my friend right from the beginning of this

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pizevich, we're back live Human Events Daily. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: we're dealing with the communist insurgency. You know, I've written

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Speaker 1: the book with Joshua Lysac, The Unhumans, The Secret History

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Speaker 1: of Communist Revolutions and how to crush them. But I

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Speaker 1: also wanted to get on someone who lived through a

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Speaker 1: communist insurgency and a communist revolution. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: She Van Fleet to the program, the author of Mao's America.

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Speaker 1: She how are you.

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Speaker 12: Very well? Very well, Thank you so much. I so

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Speaker 12: look forward to it on the interview. I just read

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Speaker 12: you well Twitter this morning. I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 9: It is absolutely one hundred percent communist insurgency, nothing less.

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Speaker 1: So when you see what's going on in Minneapolis, does

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Speaker 1: it remind you of the cultural revolution in China?

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Speaker 9: Ed It reminded me of communist revolution, including culture revolutions.

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Speaker 9: But they did the same thing before they got power.

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Speaker 9: They absolutely created crisis and then they mobilized the masses

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Speaker 9: against the city government, which was the nationalist They played

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Speaker 9: the same game over and over until they got into power.

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Speaker 9: The Culture Revolution is just mouse Mouth's way to get

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Speaker 9: to get the back, to get back the power that

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Speaker 9: he believed that his political rival had. It's all about

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Speaker 9: power and.

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Speaker 12: That is just that simple.

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Speaker 1: So talk to us about how they create the crisis

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Speaker 1: and then they use the crisis to destabilize the country.

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Speaker 9: Well, for the Culture Revolution, the crisis is that there

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Speaker 9: are people in position of power they want to do.

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Speaker 9: They want to take us back to capitalism. That's what

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Speaker 9: I was called, that's what I believed. So what do

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Speaker 9: we need to do, the young kids, the Red Guards.

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Speaker 9: We should go and get those people in position, including teachers, principles,

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Speaker 9: get them out of power, and then.

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Speaker 12: They eventually Mao want to replace them with his own people.

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Speaker 9: And but before the boxes, before the victory of CCP

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Speaker 9: taken over China, they did the same thing. They credit crisis,

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Speaker 9: they and they and then they mobilized people. There's one

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Speaker 9: example I think a lot of people don't know about.

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Speaker 9: So in nineteen forty six, they really want to weaken

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Speaker 9: the American support.

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Speaker 12: Of the nationalist government, so they created crisis.

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Speaker 9: What's that they accused that two Marines raped Chinese student

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Speaker 9: from Beijing University and not to be manufactured doesn't matter.

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Speaker 9: They mobilize ten thousand people in Beijing and demonstrated on

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Speaker 9: the streets and all sort of chaos to demand that

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Speaker 9: the United States get out of China. And when they

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Speaker 9: si get out of China, they don't want the government

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Speaker 9: a US come to support the nationally. It's the same

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Speaker 9: playbook that played over and over and over. Now we

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Speaker 9: see it unfold here in America.

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Speaker 1: And so when when you have an individual like a

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Speaker 1: Renee Good, like an Alex Pretty, someone who goes in

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Speaker 1: and is totally a true believer in these situations, uh,

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Speaker 1: they actually want those people to be killed because then

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Speaker 1: they can turn them into a martyr and then they

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Speaker 1: can use their that that act to try to smear

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Speaker 1: the government that's currently in power.

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Speaker 9: Exactly, they need martyrs. And there's a lot of matys

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Speaker 9: in China, and I grew up learning about their stories

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Speaker 9: until later I found out it's all b s and

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Speaker 9: those people are victims. They are true believers turned into

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Speaker 9: useful idiots. And the communists here they want more crisis,

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Speaker 9: they want more deaths. They're absolutely rooting for more violence

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Speaker 9: and deaths, and that's how they're going to use that

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Speaker 9: for their political gains.

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Speaker 12: It's all about power.

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Speaker 1: It is all about power. And so when we talk

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Speaker 1: about the I just had my brother on he's there

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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, as well as Black Preacher who's there with

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Speaker 1: him working on this and cam Higbee. We see now

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Speaker 1: the levels of organization. These are cadres, these are trained,

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Speaker 1: they're organized, their planned. Isn't that exactly how the organization

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Speaker 1: of the Red Guards was.

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Speaker 9: Yes, of course in China in cultural revolution, and they

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Speaker 9: had one thing going that is mouth is behind was

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Speaker 9: behind them. Mouth absolutely openly told everyone that he was

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Speaker 9: there Red commander in chief.

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Speaker 12: Because of that, the Red Guards was giving this.

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Speaker 9: Power to destroy, to beat people, torture people, even kill people.

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Speaker 9: That is what kind of revolution the mouth was lunching.

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Speaker 9: So they read Guards destroyed everything until they're destroyed by mouth.

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Speaker 12: And this is the part two of the story of.

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Speaker 9: The communist story that the new American useful idiots never

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Speaker 9: learned because it's never taught.

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Speaker 12: And my father is an example.

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Speaker 9: He joined the revolution in nineteen forty nine thinking that

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Speaker 9: he you know, that he was doing something great, until

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Speaker 9: afterwards he realized he was the target of the revolution

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Speaker 9: solely because he was from landowner family and so it

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Speaker 9: happened over.

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Speaker 12: And over and over the ills idiot, never and well never.

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Speaker 1: No, it never does, and it's only useful for those

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Speaker 1: in power or those who want to take power. I

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Speaker 1: have to ask, by the way, that seeing as we

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Speaker 1: are talking about Minnesota, Tim Walls, he spent many times

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Speaker 1: taking trips to China all the way back to I

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Speaker 1: believe even during the Tianneman Square protests and right after

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Speaker 1: Tianneman Square massacre, Tim Walls himself was taking trips to China.

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Speaker 1: Now I spent time in China. Everybody knows. I'm very

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Speaker 1: public about that. Although I have a slightly different stance

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Speaker 1: on the CCP than it comes to Tim Walls. Do

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Speaker 1: you think Tim is doing this on purpose and deliberately

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Speaker 1: because he may have learned about this history as well.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, he is a communist, There's just no doubt about it.

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Speaker 9: And he lied about being there in Tiamen Square. He

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Speaker 9: went after that the massacre on the year after, but

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Speaker 9: he made that June fourth nine as his wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 9: He is absolutely a communist, and he knows the playbook.

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Speaker 9: It is open playbook. You create a crisis and then

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Speaker 9: you use that mobilized people mass mobilization is the key

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Speaker 9: feature of communism. They get all these people involved and

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Speaker 9: then then use them as ponds and to create a crisis,

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Speaker 9: and then they use that against their political enemy. And

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Speaker 9: in culture during the cultural revolution is mouths right political opponents.

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Speaker 9: In before it was the city government, the nationalist government,

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Speaker 9: and today in America it is the Trump administration is

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Speaker 9: pro democratically elected government.

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Speaker 12: So they're doing exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 9: But the people don't realize that that is because we

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Speaker 9: have lost the control of educational system for decades. Those

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Speaker 9: people's brain was washed so clean that they just can't

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Speaker 9: think critically anymore. They don't want to think. They don't

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Speaker 9: even want to think. You can't give them the fact.

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Speaker 9: They don't want to look at the fact. So we're

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Speaker 9: in the moment now it is absolutely almost impossible to

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Speaker 9: change those people's mind.

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Speaker 12: So it is very, very challenging. And so a lot of.

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Speaker 9: People here in America were just like when they hear

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Speaker 9: when they see someone hurt, they absolutely think this is

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Speaker 9: a state violence. It is an pr war, and the

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Speaker 9: Trump administration has to win this war, have to. We're

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Speaker 9: already past the rubicun there's no way back. If we've

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Speaker 9: stepped down. They know exactly what to do next. When

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Speaker 9: they are cornered, they will launched a mass mobilization and

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Speaker 9: then they will push back and so basically eventually we're

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Speaker 9: talking about twenty six election.

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Speaker 12: They can use all this.

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Speaker 1: And they will deploy it again. Shee Van Fleet, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your time today. Where can people

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Speaker 1: go to follow you?

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Speaker 12: Please follow me O ex I to it every day,

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Speaker 12: I see them every day. It's an x van Fleet.

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Speaker 1: I love following them, I love following you on their

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Speaker 1: faith and general woman, ladies and gentlemen. As always you

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Speaker 1: have my permission to re assure