Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's just you.
Speaker 2: I Smell pop Culture with Eastern Allen and iHeart radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi friends, it's I Smell pop Culture. My name is
Speaker 2: Easton Allen. You heard Scott saying it earlier, he said
Speaker 2: my name. That's the coolest part of the show for me.
Speaker 2: I love hearing Scott Patterson say my name. We are
Speaker 2: going to be hanging out and talking about pop culture
Speaker 2: because I smell it.
Speaker 1: I smell pop culture. Do you smell it? You can't
Speaker 1: hear it, you can't taste it yet. And here's what
Speaker 1: we do on this show.
Speaker 2: If this is your first time hanging out with us,
Speaker 2: we Gilmer Girls does all these great pop culture references.
Speaker 2: They really make the world of Stars Hollow feel like
Speaker 2: a real place by linking it to our world. They're
Speaker 2: referencing movies, TV shows, music, celebrities. All these things get
Speaker 2: referenced in the show. And we're not just going to
Speaker 2: list them off. Here's what we're going to do. We're
Speaker 2: going to dive deeper. We are going to talk to
Speaker 2: the people that make these pop culture references real. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk to people behind them, and we're going
Speaker 2: to find out how they became a pop culture icon.
Speaker 1: So this week we're going back to the nineties. People.
Speaker 1: When you think about nineties sitcoms, what comes to mind?
Speaker 1: What do you think about?
Speaker 2: In my opinion, if you talk about the nineties and
Speaker 2: you talk about a sitcom, there is one show that
Speaker 2: comes to mind. There is one, and that is Full House.
Speaker 2: Think about full House, that theme.
Speaker 1: Song everywhere you look.
Speaker 2: And then the font, the full House font. That's ninety
Speaker 2: sitcom font. So many of the themes in Full House
Speaker 2: are just so iconic of that era, and it's a
Speaker 2: show that you can continue to revisit over and over.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Andrea Barber. She played Kimmi
Speaker 2: Gibble on Full House. She was in every season. She
Speaker 2: was there from the beginning. She's the funny, kind of
Speaker 2: weird girl that lives next door. She's DJ Tanner's best friend.
Speaker 2: And we are going to talk to her today. And
Speaker 2: here's the reason why full House was mentioned in Gilmore Girls,
Speaker 2: not once, but twice. And I'm going to tell you
Speaker 2: what those references are. The first one is in season six,
Speaker 2: episode sixteen. This is when Bridesmaids revisited. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to be before I read this off to you. I'm
Speaker 2: going to come out front and say I think this
Speaker 2: joke sucks. I don't like this at all, and I
Speaker 2: has not aged well and I think even at the
Speaker 2: moment it was not cool to do.
Speaker 1: But I hear it is. I'm going to say it.
Speaker 2: Laura is like watching Gigi, and Gigi's watching full House,
Speaker 2: and laurle I says, oh, full House. You know, I
Speaker 2: think the Olsen Twins way less now than they did
Speaker 2: on that show. Huh, not cool to do. I don't
Speaker 2: like that joke.
Speaker 1: So they were referenced again on season seven, episode five,
Speaker 1: The Great Stink.
Speaker 2: Logan and Rory are walking down this and Rory says
Speaker 2: that Bobby called them an adorable couple. Bobby is Logan's
Speaker 2: a coworker, and Rory did not like that compliment. She
Speaker 2: said that adorable is what you say about a Full
Speaker 2: House rerun. You don't say that about a couple. She
Speaker 2: did not like being called adorable, But full House is adorable.
Speaker 2: That's what we love about it. And you know who
Speaker 2: else is adorable? Kimmy Gibbler. We love her as the neighbor.
Speaker 2: We love everything Kimmy stands for, and we are going
Speaker 2: to talk to Andrea Barber. She brought Kimmy to life.
Speaker 2: And now Andrea is here, it is I smell pop culture. Andrew,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for doing this. It is so
Speaker 2: nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 3: What an intro. That's fantastic. I'll come on the show
Speaker 3: anytime with that kind of.
Speaker 2: Intro strap in. It's only going to get better from here.
Speaker 2: So there are a lot of fictional neighbors out there
Speaker 2: in sitcom land, and I have to say, Kimmy is
Speaker 2: my favorite. Wilson on Home Improvement, You're out. Kimmy Gilbler
Speaker 2: is the best.
Speaker 3: You know, She's definitely more flavorful than Wilson, that's for.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely absolutely so. Before we dive into the full
Speaker 2: house of it all, the if people haven't seen Full House,
Speaker 2: and if you haven't, what on earth is going on
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 3: Right right?
Speaker 2: Kimmy Gibler is DJ Tanner is a best friend. And
Speaker 2: your friendship is so fun It's so funny, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's just it's something I love to watch. And Gilmore
Speaker 2: Girls is like, at its core about the relationships between
Speaker 2: mothers and daughters and other female friendships. Would you the
Speaker 2: friendship that Kimmy had with DJ would is that something
Speaker 2: that was inspired by anything in your personal life, Like
Speaker 2: do you have close female friendships like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it was inspired by I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously I was very close with Candice Cameron Bray growing up,
Speaker 3: just because we spent a lot of time together on
Speaker 3: the set. I was also close with Jody Sweeten as well.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if it was inspired. The writers
Speaker 3: did mine our lives for storylines, so whether it was
Speaker 3: getting your first pimple or stuffing you're broad to make
Speaker 3: your boobs look bigger or things like that, you know,
Speaker 3: they would kind of like mine our personal lives for ideas.
Speaker 3: Because it was a bunch of men. There was a
Speaker 3: bunch of male writers who didn't have kids writing for
Speaker 3: this show. This family show.
Speaker 1: Incredible, kind of hysterical.
Speaker 3: I don't know, if you know the premise, the original
Speaker 3: premise of Full House was supposed to be. It wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to be a family show. It was supposed to
Speaker 3: be house of comics with three comedians, just you know,
Speaker 3: kind of like a bachelor pad almost so Jeff Franklin
Speaker 3: quickly pivoted in a different direction when ABC was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we need a family show, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me change this pitch on the spot, you know,
Speaker 3: in the in the middle of the pitch meeting. So
Speaker 3: thus full House was born. But yeah, so the friendship
Speaker 3: between Kimmy and DJ. I love this friendship because not
Speaker 3: many Tanners liked Kimmy Gibbler. She was you know, they
Speaker 3: kinda gave her a hard time. Granted she deserved some
Speaker 3: of it because she was a bit of a wild card.
Speaker 3: She never rang the doorbell, she never knocked. She just
Speaker 3: barged in and said what was on her mind. But
Speaker 3: DJ was there for her. Like through it all, they
Speaker 3: remained best friends, and the Tanners were kind of a
Speaker 3: surrogate family for Kimmy Gibbler. You know, she just wanted
Speaker 3: to be a member of the Tanner family.
Speaker 1: I mean, who would want to be you know, we
Speaker 1: all you.
Speaker 3: Know, it felt This is the number one thing I
Speaker 3: hear from fans. It's like they feel like they were
Speaker 3: the Tanners were the family that they wish they had
Speaker 3: had growing up. They felt like it was an extension.
Speaker 3: They were an extension of the family, and they were.
Speaker 3: You know, our fans are very loyal, were very lucky.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: I mean you started You're in the first episode of
Speaker 2: Full House. I mean like you were like a recurring
Speaker 2: character for the first few seasons, right, but then like
Speaker 2: you you were there from the beginning when you were
Speaker 2: ten years old when you started that rule.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's from ages ten to eighteen. So my entire
Speaker 3: awkward adolescence is captured on tape.
Speaker 1: Textbook. Formative years is spent on the set.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, which, yeah, I'm surprised I came out of
Speaker 3: that unscathed. But no, it's I mean it's fun. You know.
Speaker 3: Jody Sweeten and I have this rewatch podcast how rud
Speaker 3: Tannerto's also on iHeartRadio, and so we're watching the show
Speaker 3: for the first time, and it's so great. It's like
Speaker 3: watching home movies together and make fun of each other's hairstyles,
Speaker 3: the bad bangs, the terrible perms, the shoulder pads. There's
Speaker 3: so many shoulder pads, you know, in the early nineties.
Speaker 3: It's just it's fantastic. So yeah, it's it's it's a
Speaker 3: blessing and a curse to have all of your formative
Speaker 3: years for the world to see. It's fun when you
Speaker 3: get to look back and you can kind of laugh
Speaker 3: at yourself and make fun of yourself at the time,
Speaker 3: I don't know if I was laughing at about it
Speaker 3: at the time, but now I can look back with
Speaker 3: fond memories and think, oh, yeah, we were silly. It
Speaker 3: was a good time.
Speaker 2: It's a you know, I know, people that act as
Speaker 2: children have there's so many different experiences that come out there.
Speaker 2: And I'm ten years old, I mean, doing this, I'm curious,
Speaker 2: what was that like? Because you probably it must have
Speaker 2: been cool to be on it. You're on a TV set,
Speaker 2: you're in a studio, you're on TV. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: got to be insanely cool. But also you're ten, you're eleven,
Speaker 2: like your friends are going to the park and you know,
Speaker 2: stuff like that, Like what was that like for you?
Speaker 1: Did you love it? Did you dislike it at times?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: And yes?
Speaker 3: Like that's this is a this is a multifaceted question
Speaker 3: with multifaceted answers At ten years old. Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: still enjoying it. You know, I still had a great
Speaker 3: balance of real home life and then set life. My
Speaker 3: parents were great about that, making sure I still went
Speaker 3: to regular school, regular public school. On my hiatus weeks.
Speaker 3: I still had, you know, my friends at school, I
Speaker 3: still went to like school dances. Once I got to
Speaker 3: high school, I went to my prom. You know, I
Speaker 3: had all that stuff. So I remained as grounded and
Speaker 3: as normal as possible. But yes, you know, Full House
Speaker 3: was on the air for eight seasons, which is a
Speaker 3: long time. So somewhere in the middle of that, I
Speaker 3: did get really burned out and I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to do this anymore, Like I just want
Speaker 3: to hang out with my friends after school. It wasn't
Speaker 3: so much Full House. It was the audition circuit because
Speaker 3: as a child actor, it's like every afternoon after school
Speaker 3: getting on the freeway, sitting in traffic, doing these auditions
Speaker 3: that you probably won't get because it's all a numbers
Speaker 3: game and you get a lot of rejection. And I
Speaker 3: was just tired of it. So my parents were great,
Speaker 3: They said, you know what, you can quit anytime you want.
Speaker 3: You can't quit on the one oh one freeway in
Speaker 3: the middle of traffic, but with a well thought out
Speaker 3: letter to your agent, you'd stop it anytime. So I
Speaker 3: called up my agent, Judy Savage, and I told her
Speaker 3: I need a break, and she said, great, why don't
Speaker 3: you take you know, three four, five, six months, whatever
Speaker 3: you need and then just call me when you're ready
Speaker 3: to get back into it. So I thought, great, So
Speaker 3: that whole hiatus whatever. I was probably fourteen fifteen years old,
Speaker 3: that whole hiatus period of three or four months when
Speaker 3: we were off off from taping Full House. I was
Speaker 3: just a kid and it was great. And after six
Speaker 3: months I was like, Okay, I'm ready to get back
Speaker 3: to work. I'm refreshed, I'm recharged. And it was a
Speaker 3: good It was a good balance. I had a very
Speaker 3: good balance in my life. So shout out to my
Speaker 3: parents for that.
Speaker 1: That makes me so happy to hear that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: You have incredible parents.
Speaker 2: But also everyone listening out there, let this be a
Speaker 2: reminder of the importance of taking breaks. I mean, my goodness,
Speaker 2: like that whatever juvenating period for you. And I'm so
Speaker 2: impressed that you had the foresight at such a young
Speaker 2: age to like know, like, I have to do this
Speaker 2: for this time and then I can give back to
Speaker 2: it if I want to.
Speaker 3: Oh. Thanks, Yeah, it's important, especially in whole hustle culture.
Speaker 3: Now it gets different. Being a child actor in the
Speaker 3: ninety it is very different than it is now. I
Speaker 3: can't imagine being a child actor. Now with just the
Speaker 3: presence of social media changes the whole game. But back
Speaker 3: then it was really I feel like child actors in
Speaker 3: the nineties, it was a hobby for us. It wasn't
Speaker 3: We weren't, you know, paying the mortgage for our parents
Speaker 3: with our paychecks. You know, it was really all that
Speaker 3: money went into a trust fund, and it was just
Speaker 3: fun for us. And that's why I stuck with it
Speaker 3: as long as I did. Plus, I was under contract
Speaker 3: with full House, But besides my contractual obligations, it was
Speaker 3: really the people. I mean, I wouldn't be I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be doing a rewatch podcast with Jody if I didn't
Speaker 3: love it. We would never have come back for Fuller
Speaker 3: House if we didn't absolutely love it to our core.
Speaker 3: And so it was a great, great experience. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: take those breaks, people, take those breaks if you need them.
Speaker 3: That is such a good lesson.
Speaker 1: Where did you this film? Full House? Like? Where was
Speaker 1: that shot?
Speaker 3: In Los Angeles? Two different locations. We started out at
Speaker 3: Lori mar which I believe is now Sony Studios in
Speaker 3: Culver City, and then somewhere in the middle of the
Speaker 3: run of the show, we moved to Warner brother there's
Speaker 3: Stage twenty four, So right there in Gilmore Girl's land. Yes,
Speaker 3: walked past that little gazebo you know, every single day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we were there stage twenty four, and we came
Speaker 3: back for Fuller House to stage twenty four at Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3: So it was a very full circle moment to be
Speaker 3: on that same stage, same dressing rooms. It was like
Speaker 3: coming home again.
Speaker 1: That is awesome.
Speaker 2: Stage twenty four also the Friends stage for the Friend's
Speaker 2: iconic I mean, my god. So if you're going on
Speaker 2: that Warner Brothers tour, and if you listening to this podcast,
Speaker 2: you either have or you have plans to because it's
Speaker 2: all Gilmore so Gilmore heavy, but there's also a lot
Speaker 2: of full House history there. That's Stage twenty four. Write
Speaker 2: that down, everybody.
Speaker 3: It's a magical stage. Yep. Good things happen on that stage.
Speaker 2: So and you were saying, you're talking about Fuller House,
Speaker 2: and that's another similarity that we have to Gilmore Girls
Speaker 2: is because Gilmre Girls came back for a revival many
Speaker 2: years later as wellmazing. Yes was that So that was
Speaker 2: a fun experience for you. Did you enjoy What was
Speaker 2: it like stipping back into that role after a decade
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was so rewarding, like it was great. Jeff
Speaker 3: Franklin are the creator of both full House and Fuller House,
Speaker 3: our executive producer. I think he didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, it's been thirty years. I don't know.
Speaker 3: He was like, do you guys need acting lessons? Like
Speaker 3: it had been like twenty years for me. I had
Speaker 3: stepped away from Hollywood. I hadn't acted in twenty years,
Speaker 3: So I was kind of like, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think I still don't It's like riding a bike, right,
Speaker 3: I can still do it, And it was. It was effortless. Again,
Speaker 3: you do something for eight years of your childhood, it's
Speaker 3: like learning a language as a child. You're like a sponge.
Speaker 3: You just absorb it and it's with you for the
Speaker 3: rest of your life. So that's how Kimmy Gibler was
Speaker 3: for me. She's just inside of me all the time.
Speaker 3: She just lias dormant now and then, but then she
Speaker 3: comes out and emerges. But it was great. It really
Speaker 3: felt like coming to your childhood home, walking through the
Speaker 3: set for the first time again after thirty years. The
Speaker 3: couch was there, the oo plaid curtains and couch, and
Speaker 3: like all the weird nautical decor. Why why it had
Speaker 3: a nautical decor. I don't know. Maybe it's the San
Speaker 3: Francisco Bay, I don't know. Besides that, yeah, it was
Speaker 3: so rewarding to come back as an adult and play
Speaker 3: the same character that I did for eight years as
Speaker 3: a child, because I know now as an adult how
Speaker 3: fleeting that is. Like, nobody gets eight seasons of a
Speaker 3: show anymore. You're lucky if you get a second season
Speaker 3: or a third season on any of these platforms. But yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's about the people. Like the Full House cast,
Speaker 3: we're family. I know it's so schmaltzy and cheesy, but
Speaker 3: we really do love each other so much. We are
Speaker 3: in each other's lives forever. And yeah, it was it
Speaker 3: was great. I would come back again, all of us,
Speaker 3: without even hesitation. We would come back and do a
Speaker 3: fullest House, which I don't know if anybody wants that.
Speaker 3: I know the diehard Full House fans want that, and
Speaker 3: we would love to do it, just to have an
Speaker 3: ex used to hang out and get to do it
Speaker 3: all over again and sit on that tiny blue couch
Speaker 3: that does really doesn't fit more than two people, but
Speaker 3: we somehow crammed a whole family.
Speaker 1: On that couch.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that that was the experience you had, because,
Speaker 2: like as viewers, I mean, the experience, it was so
Speaker 2: such similar way to describe it, it's like it felt
Speaker 2: like going back to a safe place and a place
Speaker 2: that we as viewers again have so many fond memories,
Speaker 2: and so hearing that like to make it was such
Speaker 2: a pleasant thing, it makes it even better.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I know, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's very special, right, the poll of nostalgia is
Speaker 3: so strong, and I don't know, especially with nineties the
Speaker 3: nineties television shows pop culture, there was something very comforting
Speaker 3: about shows from the eighties and nineties. It was a
Speaker 3: simpler time. It was before nine to eleven, it was
Speaker 3: before social media, it was before cell phones, and I
Speaker 3: think people kind of miss the simplicity of those times.
Speaker 3: So you're right, it's like comfort food. She shows like
Speaker 3: full House and Gilmore Girls and then the reboots that
Speaker 3: it makes you feel good inside, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people you know in their in their forties now they have,
Speaker 3: they have kids, they're raising kids, and they're introducing these
Speaker 3: shows to their kids too and making it a family
Speaker 3: watching experience all over again. And I love it. I
Speaker 3: think that's great. I think we should get back to
Speaker 3: like the T G i F Fright Night, Family on
Speaker 3: the Couch. You know, this is this is something that's
Speaker 3: missing from society. Now, let's bring it back Easton, Let's
Speaker 3: bring back T G I F.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're bringing back t G I F.
Speaker 2: There's so many great Kimmy moments on Full House. The
Speaker 2: ones that stand out to me practicing bagpipes or the fence.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: The other one I love is when you had a
Speaker 1: pet ostriche.
Speaker 3: Yes that might have been that was Was that the
Speaker 3: same that might have been the same episode?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it was, and.
Speaker 3: Why I don't know how those things are related, bagpipes
Speaker 3: and ostriches, but it made sense.
Speaker 2: That's a tie of and the beauty of Kimmy Gibbler.
Speaker 2: Anything can happen. And so that was a puppet ostrich.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, it was the fakest looking like this is
Speaker 3: where you really gotta suspend belief, Like I'm sure they
Speaker 3: spent a lot of money on that puppet, but it
Speaker 3: just looked terrible. But yeah, they wanted Kimmy to have
Speaker 3: a pet Ostrich and she was kind of driving Jesse
Speaker 3: nuts during this episode, like between the Ostrich that was
Speaker 3: poking him and his it laid it have a mullet then,
Speaker 3: but his you know the hair watch the hair, huh.
Speaker 3: And then the bagpipes again, of course Kimmy Gibler has
Speaker 3: bagpipes because of course got to annoy the neighbors with
Speaker 3: the loudest instrument possible. Yes, so you know, we we
Speaker 3: had we had a little nod to that episode in
Speaker 3: Fuller House when we finally saw the Gibbler House for
Speaker 3: the first time, the one and only time we saw
Speaker 3: inside the Gibbler House. They were like, let's put some
Speaker 3: Easter eggs in there. So I'm like, okay, let's have
Speaker 3: some bagpipes in the corner. They couldn't find an Ostrich,
Speaker 3: but they had like a portrait of an Ostrich and
Speaker 3: like all of those old tiny portraits of an hostage
Speaker 3: up there, there was a Unice cycle in the corner.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just It's a great episode for
Speaker 3: fans that know Full House like the back of their hand.
Speaker 3: There's so many good little Easter eggs there.
Speaker 2: I love I love that. That was really the first
Speaker 2: time you see Kimmy's house. I didn't realize that. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: The only time we saw inside the house. We never
Speaker 3: met Kimmy's parents. Yeah, one of my biggest regrets in
Speaker 3: life is that we never met Kimmy's parents. If I
Speaker 3: could cast them myself, that my next question. She said,
Speaker 3: I would cast Martin Short as mister Gibbler and Jane
Speaker 3: Lynch as Missus Gibbler all star cast.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, slam dunk, Oh my god, that'd
Speaker 2: be so good. Andrew Barber is hanging.
Speaker 1: Out with us.
Speaker 2: This is the Eismo pop culture podcast. We have so
Speaker 2: much more to get into. We have so much This
Speaker 2: is a full house over here, people, and we have
Speaker 2: We're diving into it.
Speaker 1: Stick around. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 2: It is the icemo pop culture podcast on I am
Speaker 2: all In. My name is Easton Allen. I'm here with
Speaker 2: Andrea Barber, Kimmy Gibbler on full House and we are
Speaker 2: diving into the iconic moments from full House. There are
Speaker 2: so many and the reason we're kind of talking to
Speaker 2: you today is because full House was mentioned several times.
Speaker 3: On Gilmour Girls, amazing.
Speaker 2: Gilmer Girl's famous for pop culture references that they're they're
Speaker 2: mentioned at least twice Fullhouse is mentioned. I'm honored when
Speaker 2: you are, like as an adult, when you're like just
Speaker 2: watching a movie or watching TV and like a character
Speaker 2: is watching Full House or like talks about it. How
Speaker 2: does that feel for you?
Speaker 3: It's the coolest feeling ever. It really makes me feel
Speaker 3: like I've made it in life. We know more than
Speaker 3: any award or professional recognition. If we're mentioned in some
Speaker 3: popular shows or like on Jeopardy Yes, or in the
Speaker 3: New York Times crossword puzzle, Like, I literally get so excited.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's amazing. I just thought, wow, because sometimes
Speaker 3: you feel like you're in a little bubble, Like I'm
Speaker 3: just in my little full House bubble. You know, it's
Speaker 3: just it's just us and our our die hard fans.
Speaker 3: But no, suddenly we're being referenced on Gilmore Girls and
Speaker 3: oh we do exist outside the full House universe. It's
Speaker 3: very flattering. It's great. It makes you. It makes you
Speaker 3: realize how universally loved full House is. If we're I mean,
Speaker 3: depending on the reference, I'm not sure what you're talking
Speaker 3: about Maybe it was a negative reference. I don't know,
Speaker 3: because the show does get made fun of a lot too.
Speaker 3: Full House is just famous for being corny and cheesy,
Speaker 3: and the critics hated it. We made the show for
Speaker 3: the fans, not for the critics. I'll just say it
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 2: I love that, and as a fan, I mean I
Speaker 2: love full House. I don't think it's corner cheese. I
Speaker 2: think it's it's since here. It's fun and it's comforting,
Speaker 2: like we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3: It's it's great food.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. The reference one of them. I'm going to
Speaker 1: say this. I don't think this is a great thing
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 3: It's tell me, please tell me.
Speaker 2: One of the references, as Laura the mother is a
Speaker 2: they're watching full House, and then she says, I think
Speaker 2: the Olsen Twins way less now than they did on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: Ah. Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1: That is not cool to say.
Speaker 2: But then there was another one, another reference where a
Speaker 2: character says, oh, they're an adorable couple, and then Alexis
Speaker 2: Plodel Rory says, adorable is what you say about full House.
Speaker 1: That's not what you say about a couple.
Speaker 3: Oh so very appropriate. Yes, that's true. Full House was adorable. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: And you know what, we take all the cheesy references
Speaker 3: like we we know, we know exactly what our brand is.
Speaker 3: We are not offended with people call us overly sacharin
Speaker 3: or you know, too sweet or cheesy. That's okay. We
Speaker 3: embrace it. We embrace the cheese. That's what we do.
Speaker 3: That's it's it calm from the nineties, that's what It's
Speaker 3: practically mandatory to be cheesy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'll go as far to say this, you're not just
Speaker 2: us thatcom from the nineties. I would argue that full
Speaker 2: House is the sitcom from the nineties. I mean when
Speaker 2: you see like a parody of like a sitcom from
Speaker 2: the nineties, it's just full House, like they're just they'd
Speaker 2: use the font.
Speaker 3: The intro where you smile at the camera.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is it. It's it's wild to think about, Like,
Speaker 1: if you could distill it down to one show, it's
Speaker 1: gotta be I'm saying it's full House.
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree. I happen to agree with you. No,
Speaker 3: because it had all the elements. It has the family,
Speaker 3: it has the ridiculous storylines, it has the laughs, but
Speaker 3: it has the heart and I think yes, once our
Speaker 3: producers figured out that that was the magic behind the
Speaker 3: show was those heart scenes, especially between Uncle Jesse and Michelle.
Speaker 3: That's what made the show magic, you know, That's what
Speaker 3: people really responded to, are those heart moments and the
Speaker 3: relationships between you know, the dads and the girls, or
Speaker 3: the uncles and the nieces. That's it's all about the relationships,
Speaker 3: and people respond to that type of chemistry, just like
Speaker 3: on Gilmore Girls too, you know, they're responding to the
Speaker 3: chemistry between the mother daughter. People get get invested, you know,
Speaker 3: their hearts get invested in these characters too, and we
Speaker 3: care about these characters. We want to know what happened
Speaker 3: to them, where did they go, what are they doing now?
Speaker 3: You don't get them shows these days because no networks
Speaker 3: and streamers, they don't give the show time to develop
Speaker 3: or breathe. You know. It's like if you don't hit
Speaker 3: the ground running after the pilot episode, you don't get
Speaker 3: the numbers, you're canceled. And it's like, but people want
Speaker 3: to invest their emotions into these characters. You want to
Speaker 3: get attached to them, and that's why people are so
Speaker 3: attached to characters and shows from the nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so curious, like when you Okay, sorry, I
Speaker 2: have a couple questions here about when when you started
Speaker 2: Full House, Like first first started film, how did that work?
Speaker 2: Did you film like the first ten episodes? Like like
Speaker 2: what was the schedule? And then it's versus when it
Speaker 2: started airing? How did that work?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, there was about a three week delay. Okay,
Speaker 3: very different because you know with streamers and now you
Speaker 3: shoot the whole season. Yeah, so you don't get any
Speaker 3: feedback before you've already like, okay, well we've released it
Speaker 3: into the air. Let's see how people respond. But no,
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty seven, when Full House started on ABC, yeah,
Speaker 3: we would tape about three weeks before we would air
Speaker 3: that particular episode, so we were probably three or four
Speaker 3: episodes in by the time it started airing. The first
Speaker 3: season kind of bombed, Like I told you, the critics
Speaker 3: hated it. It took until season two to really find
Speaker 3: our footing and get people to pay attention. And the
Speaker 3: critics still didn't like us, but at least the bands did.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's helpful though. It's helpful, and
Speaker 3: maybe that's a key to our success too, because had
Speaker 3: we just taped the whole first season before releasing it.
Speaker 3: We might not have got it. Might have been House
Speaker 3: of Comics, you know, it might just this raunchy bachelor
Speaker 3: pad type of story where the kids are just kind
Speaker 3: of afterthoughts. But it was the audience reaction that made
Speaker 3: our producers stop and listen and say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 3: it's really about the kids. I mean, it's about the
Speaker 3: adults in the kid It's about the family. It's just
Speaker 3: about the family unit. It's not just the guys being
Speaker 3: bumbly idiots not knowing how to change a diaper. It's
Speaker 3: about their love for the family and this loving, these
Speaker 3: loving relationships. So thank goodness, thank goodness for ABC and
Speaker 3: for network TV. Back in nineteen eighty seven, we had
Speaker 3: that type of release schedule so much.
Speaker 1: I'm so surprised. I'm surprised it's that fast of a turnaround.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Like I just assumed everything was made like, oh,
Speaker 2: you make the whole season and then and then if
Speaker 2: there's like an audience reaction to someone like it's going
Speaker 2: to take like at least a season to correct that.
Speaker 2: But like you could, Yeah, I mean you're getting feedback
Speaker 2: and you're still making that first season that's pretty that's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's unheard of now, so yeah, I'm not surprised you're
Speaker 3: surprised because yeah, they don't do it like that anymore.
Speaker 3: But there were definite advantages to that, and God bless
Speaker 3: our editor for being able to that. Turnaround time was
Speaker 3: very quick.
Speaker 2: And this guy's working with like tape and you know,
Speaker 2: like the stuff like like you don't have computers like
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 1: Now that's incredible.
Speaker 3: Oh, totally.
Speaker 2: Something else we love about Kimmy Gibbler the wardrobe. I
Speaker 2: mean it's the wardrobe is incredible. Every outfit she's in
Speaker 2: is something that I want to wear.
Speaker 3: Now amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm curious what was the like, what was the process
Speaker 2: like for developing her like clothing style? Did you have
Speaker 2: any input on that? What did you think when they
Speaker 2: showed you some of those outfits?
Speaker 3: Oh? I hated it. Yeah, this was the dark spot
Speaker 3: in my childhood. Oh no, well no, no, I'm exaggerating.
Speaker 3: I did, but I did hate the wardrobe. Like you know,
Speaker 3: Candace and Jodie were wearing these cute outfits and I
Speaker 3: was I was like, it looks like I'm wearing underwear
Speaker 3: on the outside of my pants, Like this looks ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And you know, Jody and I just interviewed one of
Speaker 3: our uh, one of our former executive producers from the show,
Speaker 3: Dennis Rinstler, and he told me their process for picking
Speaker 3: out Kimmy Gibbler's outfits. They would do these rack checks,
Speaker 3: you know, before we would tape anything, and so the
Speaker 3: wardrobe department would give them several options of what Kimmy
Speaker 3: could wear this week, and Dennis Rinstler said, whatever was
Speaker 3: the worst looking outfit, whatever was the most horrifying, that's
Speaker 3: the one they would pick. And I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 3: but he apologized. He's like, I felt bad because you
Speaker 3: were a teenage girl and you probably didn't want to
Speaker 3: wear those, and I'm like, no, I didn't. And I
Speaker 3: probably could have spoken up and said, hey, guys, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not really comfortable with this, but I was a
Speaker 3: very shy teenager, not like Kimmy Gibbler at all, and
Speaker 3: so I just was like, I want to be a
Speaker 3: team player. I'm not gonna make waves. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: wear this and grin and bear it. And most of
Speaker 3: the time the outfits were fine. There was only a
Speaker 3: couple occasions where I'm like I'm not comfortable in this,
Speaker 3: but I did wish that I could just wear the
Speaker 3: cute outfits because at the end of the season, the
Speaker 3: wardrobe people were like, you can take home anything you want,
Speaker 3: and Candice and Jodie would be taking home like armloads
Speaker 3: of clothes and I was like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go home. Thanks, that's okay. I
Speaker 3: appreciated it. In Fuller House. I feel like this was
Speaker 3: the Kimmy Gibbler's redemption because then she had quirky clothing,
Speaker 3: but it was cool. It was like almost like a
Speaker 3: Carrie Bradshaw type of it was a little eccentric, but
Speaker 3: it was fashionable. And that's I loved the Fuller House
Speaker 3: Kimmy Gibbler wardrobe. That was Chef's kiss. Loved it ten ten,
Speaker 3: no notes, loved it.
Speaker 1: It was some great outfits in Fuller House.
Speaker 2: And the other thing I wanted to bring up about
Speaker 2: Kimmy that I really really admire is that she's Kimmy
Speaker 2: is weird, like she is a weird kid, but she's
Speaker 2: so confident and she just embraces who she is. And
Speaker 2: that's something when I watch those scenes back, I'm just
Speaker 2: like what a great role model, especially for kids watching
Speaker 2: this show, to be like, you can be weird, you
Speaker 2: can be bizarre and out there and people are going
Speaker 2: to love you. If you just have to love yourself
Speaker 2: and be confident in who you are, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with you. And I just think I think embracing weirdness
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest things we can do as humans.
Speaker 2: And all our favorite every great artist is a weird person,
Speaker 2: and that includes Kimmy Gibler, and I just admire that
Speaker 2: so much, and I think that's such an incredible role
Speaker 2: to play on TV for kids to see. So I
Speaker 2: wanted to thank you for bringing that to life because
Speaker 2: it's amazing.
Speaker 3: That means so much. Thank you for saying that. It
Speaker 3: took me a really long time to even recognize that.
Speaker 3: It took me until well, probably until the almost the
Speaker 3: Fuller House days, So it took me until I was
Speaker 3: in my late thirties, and fans would come up to
Speaker 3: me and say that thank you for teaching me that
Speaker 3: it's okay to be weird. So suddenly, like all the
Speaker 3: kids that felt like outcasts in high school, they would
Speaker 3: come out if the would work and be like, thank
Speaker 3: you for teaching me that it's okay to be different
Speaker 3: and it's okay to you know, march to the beat
Speaker 3: of your own drum. And I'm like, yeah, you know what, Kimmy,
Speaker 3: I never would have said this as a teenager. Kimmy Gibbler
Speaker 3: is a role model, but she really is. She teaches
Speaker 3: you about self love and confidence and just embracing all
Speaker 3: of your quirks and yeah, it's just about being confident.
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, you know what, we could all use
Speaker 3: a little bit of Kimmy Gibbler inside of us. And
Speaker 3: she's even taught me some things about just embrace yourself,
Speaker 3: embrace the things that make you different, because that is
Speaker 3: your superpower. And so it's a great lesson, such a
Speaker 3: feel good lesson. I love it. I love this character
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we love her too.
Speaker 2: The Full House we're talking about how Full House is
Speaker 2: like the nineties sitcom that includes the theme song.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a theme song. It's so good.
Speaker 2: I'm just you can be completely honest here, how sick
Speaker 2: of it are you at this point?
Speaker 1: You're not?
Speaker 3: Not? No, It's like you'd think I would be. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: it's just it's catchy, it's iconic. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: listen to it every day. I think that helps too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but even the cast, when we're hanging out and somebody
Speaker 3: says something cheesy, we'll break out of a da da
Speaker 3: da da da. You know, we just be kind of
Speaker 3: poke fun at it because it's so silly. It's like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, let's end every lunch with a hug and
Speaker 3: a sappy songs. It's funny. So no, I don't. I'm
Speaker 3: not sick of it, not yet. But if I had
Speaker 3: to listen to it every day, I might give you
Speaker 3: a different answer.
Speaker 2: Andrea Barber's with us. This is I Smell Pop Culture
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Speaker 2: Everybody, It's I Smell Pop Culture.
Speaker 1: My name is Easton Allen.
Speaker 2: In case you're just joining us, you know, I like
Speaker 2: when people just download a podcast and then hop in
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Speaker 3: You play on Full House well a fan?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna get into your podcast here in a second.
Speaker 2: But I I have some very selfish questions to ask
Speaker 2: about Full House.
Speaker 3: Great, yeah, hit me with them.
Speaker 2: I am just a massive Beach Boys fan, like like massive,
Speaker 2: and I rewatched they were on like two or three
Speaker 2: episodes of Full House and I rewatched it recently and
Speaker 2: I watch Actually, there's there's one where the Tanner family
Speaker 2: joins them on stage.
Speaker 1: I think there. I can't remember where they were.
Speaker 3: I think we're playing a USC they were Colisseum. Yes,
Speaker 3: there was a USC game going on and so we
Speaker 3: were saved. Why not let's have a beach Boy concert
Speaker 3: and throw the Tanners up there. Well, it's just a
Speaker 3: random Friday night, you know, casu right.
Speaker 1: As you do.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I watched it hoping. I was like, wait, was
Speaker 1: Kimmy there?
Speaker 3: Jimmy was not.
Speaker 2: There, just the Tanner family and made me so sad.
Speaker 2: But uh, like were you when they did those Beach
Speaker 2: Boys episodes? Were you around it all?
Speaker 1: Like? Like how did that? What were those like shoot days?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was in. I remember being on the
Speaker 3: in the living room set with them, So I'm sure
Speaker 3: I was in at least one of the episodes with them.
Speaker 3: And it's always exciting, you know, there's a little like
Speaker 3: hush hush, you know, whisper of excitement on the set
Speaker 3: when they when they come around, and they were like,
Speaker 3: they're John Samuis's friend, Like they're really close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a beach boy now you know,
Speaker 1: Yeah he is.
Speaker 3: He tours with them and he plays the drums like
Speaker 3: they're they've been close for decades. But it was still
Speaker 3: all very exciting for the rest of us, you know,
Speaker 3: to have them on the show, and it was it's great.
Speaker 3: They're they're good team players, and they're good sports and
Speaker 3: they don't mind laughing at themselves. It's so funny to
Speaker 3: have musicians on the show. Yeah, because like they get
Speaker 3: really like they're so like they're so talented and they're
Speaker 3: so outgoing, except when it comes to scripts and memorizing lines,
Speaker 3: like suddenly they like clam up. It's like, no, you
Speaker 3: can do this. It's like it's performing, just like you're
Speaker 3: on stage at a concert. You're performing. You just have
Speaker 3: words to say instead of lyrics to sing. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they always would get a little bit nervous about that,
Speaker 3: but that's okay. It's not a live show. Yes, the
Speaker 3: beauty of taping multicam is that you you get to
Speaker 3: mess up, and you can do it all over again.
Speaker 3: So once they realized that, you know, the pressure was
Speaker 3: off a little bit. But it was always exciting having
Speaker 3: them around. It was a big boost for all of
Speaker 3: us on the stage, and for sure all of the
Speaker 3: fans too. They loved it. It's iconic, it really is.
Speaker 2: So I read that you have done over twenty six
Speaker 2: half marathons.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, that sounds about right. I've lost count
Speaker 3: such a runner I was. I was past tense, I
Speaker 3: was a runner. I haven't run in several years, but yeah,
Speaker 3: in my there was a solid ten year stretch there
Speaker 3: where I yeah, I did probably close to thirty half marathons.
Speaker 3: For full marathons, Wow, in a handful of ten k's
Speaker 3: and five k's, it was. I loved it. Yeah, what
Speaker 3: was wrong with me? My knees? That's what's wrong with me? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was fun. That was a great time.
Speaker 1: What really quick?
Speaker 2: What advice do you have if someone wants to get
Speaker 2: into running marathon? Marathons are I mean it's twenty six miles,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a that's a big I've only done
Speaker 2: half marathons.
Speaker 1: Personally, I'm too afraid of the twenty six.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a totally different ballgame. Yep.
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, how do you When I've done the half marathons,
Speaker 2: I have finished, and I always think to myself, if
Speaker 2: I was doing the full, i'd be halfway through.
Speaker 1: This is nuts.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've given everything at this point totally.
Speaker 2: So much of it is mental. What do you like?
Speaker 2: Is there something you like a mantrae you repeat to
Speaker 2: yourself for like what's going on in your head when
Speaker 2: you are halfway through or a third of way through
Speaker 2: and you're starting to feel like, oh God, like I
Speaker 2: have to do this much more like what goes on
Speaker 2: mentally for you during that?
Speaker 3: Yeah. The best advice I have is advice that I
Speaker 3: heard or read from other runners, professional runners, or otherwise,
Speaker 3: is just to run the mile that you're in. So
Speaker 3: when you're on mile one, don't be thinking about mile thirteen.
Speaker 3: You really and that's a great lesson for life to
Speaker 3: just focus on what's at hand. Don't be worrying about
Speaker 3: what's to come two hours from now or next week
Speaker 3: or whatever. Just focus on the mile that you're in.
Speaker 3: So I would I would do that. Mile one always
Speaker 3: feels great, Mile two not so much. But you just
Speaker 3: ride those waves and I'm like, okay, I'm at mile
Speaker 3: six now. Now it's starting to hurt. But that's what's
Speaker 3: supposed to happen. So that's what always happens. I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna push through or maybe take a walk break or
Speaker 3: you know, have some those little running those gels that's
Speaker 3: energy gels that you take. You know, it's you just
Speaker 3: you learn to listen to your body. But just don't
Speaker 3: get ahead of yourself. You gotta just run the mile
Speaker 3: that you're in. It's the best I that's the best
Speaker 3: I advice I have. And also just you get used
Speaker 3: to pain, like that's what running is. It's just being
Speaker 3: comfortable with pain or just being comfortable getting with getting uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: You develop a lot of tolerance for pain when you
Speaker 3: are a runner. So again, excellent model for life. You
Speaker 3: just stick with it. Eventually the pain will end and
Speaker 3: you'll be stronger at the end of it because of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that run the mile that your and
Speaker 2: that's that's really great advice, like you said, for life
Speaker 2: and for get out there on the streets. You have
Speaker 2: your own podcasts are Rude Tanner Ritas where you recapp
Speaker 2: in Full House, you're hosting it with Jodie Sweeten, who
Speaker 2: played Stephanie Tanner.
Speaker 1: Has that been a fun experience for you?
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, we're having a blast. I mean just
Speaker 3: Jody and I hanging out. We always have fun. We
Speaker 3: always make it funny, and the show is very much
Speaker 3: just like two girlfriends chatting over coffee. That's literally what
Speaker 3: we do every week. We get our coffee and then
Speaker 3: we chat and they're like, oh, yeah, we have to
Speaker 3: recap an episode as well, but we're very real. It's
Speaker 3: just us. We're unhinged a lot of the time. There's
Speaker 3: lots of non sequitursins that we go off on. But
Speaker 3: it's been great. We've developed this huge appreciation for Full
Speaker 3: House that we never really had because we didn't watch
Speaker 3: the show growing up. We were working, we were taping
Speaker 3: on Friday nights, so we weren't and this is again
Speaker 3: before the age of streaming, so you either have to
Speaker 3: record the episode on your VCR back in the day
Speaker 3: or you missed it. You miss it, it's all done.
Speaker 3: Maybe catch it in a rerun months from now. But
Speaker 3: that was it, so we were always too busy being
Speaker 3: on the show. To actually watch the show. So Jody
Speaker 3: and I are having a blast again. We make fun
Speaker 3: of each other in our hairstyles and our wardrobe. But
Speaker 3: this show still holds up. Like after we watched the
Speaker 3: pilot episode, I was like, this might be the best
Speaker 3: pilot in the history of sitcoms because it still holds up.
Speaker 3: There's so much heart. You know exactly who these characters
Speaker 3: are from the very first scene. They're very well defined.
Speaker 3: You know, Uncle Jesse is the honk, Joey's the funny
Speaker 3: guy with all the voices, Danny Tanner is the clean freak.
Speaker 3: They're just very well defined. There's funny moments, there's heartfelt moments.
Speaker 3: I think I even cried at one point. It's got
Speaker 3: it all. Appreciate the show like a fan does. It's great.
Speaker 3: It's also I think funny for our fans that are
Speaker 3: listening to Howard Tanner Rito's because they know what's They
Speaker 3: know the show way better than we do, so they
Speaker 3: know what's coming up. So Jody and I will be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I wonder, why don't they just do this or why
Speaker 3: don't they do that, And the fans like, just wait,
Speaker 3: it's coming.
Speaker 1: They know it.
Speaker 3: They're so they're so excited about it. So it's been
Speaker 3: great to get to watch it through new eyes basically,
Speaker 3: which sounds weird because we were on the show, But
Speaker 3: there's a lot that we don't remember or we need,
Speaker 3: you know, reminding of, So this has been a great
Speaker 3: way to just jog those memories, relive the good times,
Speaker 3: cringe at the bad times and the bad fashion, and
Speaker 3: overall just develop a great appreciation for what we put
Speaker 3: together all those years ago.
Speaker 1: That is awesome. That makes me so happy again. That's
Speaker 1: how Rude Tanner Ritos is an iHeartRadio podcast. You can
Speaker 1: get it wherever you listen to podcasts. Andrea, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for doing this. This has been so much fun.
Speaker 1: You're the coolest person in the world.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you so much. You're You're awesome.
Speaker 3: I am just thrilled. This was such a fun conversation.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I love talking about the nineties. I
Speaker 3: love talking about nineties TV. This is one of my
Speaker 3: favorite topics. So anytime you want to chat nineties, you
Speaker 3: give me a call.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Thank you again, have a great day.
Speaker 3: Thanks boss.
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