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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Also

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Speaker 1: someone you were very close to, Angie Stone. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: and she tragically lost her life in an automobile accident.

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Speaker 2: And then you had to sing. You sung at the funeral.

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Speaker 3: Singing both of them. Yeah, that's pretty hard, and you know,

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Speaker 3: and they wanted me to go and view her body

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Speaker 3: and that before going to view it, I was just like,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see her all messed up and

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Speaker 3: mangled up. I just don't want to see that. It's

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Speaker 3: hard enough that you know she's gone and the way

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Speaker 3: she left right, And so she's like, no, just come please,

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Speaker 3: And I went and she looked amazing. I'd never seen

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Speaker 3: anybody laid the rest looking so peaceful, and she had

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Speaker 3: a smirk on her face, like I told y'all, I'm

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Speaker 3: serious man, in all Angie Stone fashion.

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Speaker 4: It was just good to be able to be there

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Speaker 4: for her family.

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Speaker 2: Man. What's one of your favorite Anngie story?

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Speaker 3: So me and Angie were working on the duet that

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Speaker 3: we had and uh, we were in New York City,

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Speaker 3: down in the village and it was we had let

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Speaker 3: out the studio at four am and it was a blizzard. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so we had to all get in the same cab.

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Speaker 3: First we had to get a cab that wanted to

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Speaker 3: pick up black Tails up and so we end up,

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Speaker 3: you know, slipping the sliding in the snow and and

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Speaker 3: that was one of the funniest things because you know, Angie,

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Speaker 3: she almost busts up.

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Speaker 4: But and uh, we laugh about it. And just being

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Speaker 3: We did a silk and sandpaper tour, so we always

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Speaker 3: would bring that that that Blizzard snowstore in New York City,

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Speaker 3: and you know, Country Country wasn't used to that.

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Speaker 1: Angie and DiAngelo have, so I mean, thanks. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be tough for him to lose his mom tragically,

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Speaker 1: now tragic passing up his father and now he's motherless

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Speaker 1: and fatherless.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine imagine it. I can't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to want my kids tore ever have

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Speaker 3: to go through that or anyone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just prayed for him.

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Speaker 3: I make God comfort him in a way, send him

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Speaker 3: the best person that can help mend that.

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Speaker 2: Did you go to the Drake and did Drake D'Angelo

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Speaker 2: show in Toronto?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah I did. Yeah, Actually I went with Drake

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Speaker 3: or DiAngelo? Okay, Yeah, I was down there working with

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Speaker 3: Drake and uh he was like d'angelo's in town.

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Speaker 4: It was like, let's go.

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Speaker 3: So we all, you know, got in this big, big car,

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Speaker 3: Bendy or Rose whatever, one of the big car. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: tall him to be and we went and we and

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Speaker 3: we saw The show Man. Yeah, it was it was

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Speaker 3: pretty cool. It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: You one of these unique artists, uh that you can

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Speaker 1: really cross over, Like you mentioned, you can do rap,

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Speaker 1: you collabor you know, Jada Kiss and Drake and some

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Speaker 1: of these others. Is that something that you always strived?

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Speaker 1: Did you always wanted to like, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: collabing with other R and B. Yeah, you're that's easy

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Speaker 1: because we've seen that so much. But to see the

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Speaker 1: also of appeal what you have.

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Speaker 3: You know, I always knew that I love music and

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Speaker 3: I understood it if I heard it. If it's a

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Speaker 3: rap song, I know how to be Anthony Hamilton on it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the country songs I've done with Josh Turner and genrech

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Speaker 3: from Big and Rich, I'm a country boy. I know

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Speaker 3: I love it, so, you know, it's just it's an

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Speaker 3: extension of who I am. I never feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: out of my character, right, So it's just it's fun.

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Speaker 3: Would you do a country I have absolutely, I have

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Speaker 3: so many country songs and I'm actually working on one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it's so impressive because not a

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Speaker 1: to Beyonce because she's at the top of it. She's

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Speaker 1: at the top of the here, she's here, she's a pantheon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she said, you know what, I'm gonna do something else,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You have to be brave and in today's society because

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Speaker 3: it's it's people that want to control your destiny and

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Speaker 4: When he's like, no, I know who I.

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Speaker 3: Want to be and I know all the many means

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Speaker 3: I want to be, So you just have to go

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Speaker 3: for When.

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Speaker 1: You was at I think Drake calls his house the Embassy,

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Speaker 1: you go there and you're recording. Do you get do

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Speaker 1: you ever get an awe? When you meet people? You've

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Speaker 1: met a lot of famous people. You you had a car,

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Speaker 1: and you met mister Mandela and you met all these

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Speaker 1: Do you ever get do you ever get an odd?

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Speaker 2: Do you ever like?

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm just a country boy from North Carolina and

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Speaker 1: here I am, I'm I'm I'm I'm ill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember the first time going to Prince

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Speaker 2: In Gennazas huh in Minneapolis? I went.

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Speaker 4: I went to the Gennazi's house.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah.

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Speaker 3: I went to the what's the name of the studio?

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Speaker 3: Pays the park, pays the park. I went to Paisley Park.

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Speaker 3: But his house is in La So after the award shows,

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Speaker 3: he has these big jam sessions. So he had Stevie

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Speaker 3: trying to party. I'm trying to get a little drink

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Speaker 3: the Lord's Prayer. He was like Anthony, he must have

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Speaker 1: Is it Is it true that he wouldn't let people

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Speaker 4: So DeAngelo was supposed to go.

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Speaker 3: We were supposed to go meet Prince year the go

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Speaker 3: He had food, he had drinks, and just I think

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Speaker 2: What was it like meeting U, mister Mandela.

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Speaker 1: We know his story twenty plus years on Robins Island,

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Speaker 1: what he fought for, the having the work and the

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Speaker 2: He forgave his oppressors.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I was supposed to have met him, and he had

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Speaker 3: I sat in his house on his couch and I

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Speaker 3: spirit of the spirit of who he was. Yes, it

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Speaker 4: It was very strong.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever get nervous around famous people?

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Speaker 3: I think it's harder for me to sing at award

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I feel like it's so much judgment.

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Speaker 3: They're judging me, you know, and I don't get a

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Speaker 3: chance to You don't get a chance to warm it up, right,

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Speaker 3: So with my shows, I could coast warm it up

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Speaker 4: You gotta be able to use me off the bustle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's one of the challenges that

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Speaker 3: took the longest, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got an opportunity to perform in front of

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, a few A few times I've been to

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Speaker 3: as well. After that. That was that was pretty surreal too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they take your phone, so you ain't in

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, came and talked.

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Speaker 3: To me, and I took my son, one of my sons,

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Speaker 3: and I met Michelle a few different times.

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Speaker 1: Getting to your writing, is it only natural? Can you

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think a hip record can change anybody's life, whether

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Speaker 2: You wrote write on Dannielle Jones you know What's up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, co wrote that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm always fascinated is that when you write a song,

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Speaker 1: do you have anybody particular in mind? When you're cool,

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Speaker 1: when you like, if you just write a song, do

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Speaker 1: give this piece to.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you do a lot of times,

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Speaker 3: just like this sounds like r Kelly, This sounds like Beyonce,

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Speaker 3: This sounds like her or Jazmine Sullivan. You hear that

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Speaker 3: person's voice because the music represents a different, a certain sound. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And for the Dannielle Jones, we actually went in to

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Speaker 3: writers that wrote for Jahim and so they had a

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Speaker 3: really nice sound. But I didn't know that song was

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Speaker 1: So when you go So, let's just say, for the

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Speaker 1: sake of argument, I'm an R and B singer and

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Speaker 1: I call people there and I was like, look, I

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Speaker 1: want you guys to help me write something for my album. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we invite where you invite five, six, seven people

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Speaker 3: I think you start throwing out ideas, okay, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: that's challenging because you know their ideas can can kind of,

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Speaker 1: Do you do you like for them to say, look,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do to Anthony Hamilton every time. So and

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Speaker 4: I think I was so excited that it outshine the pressure.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get this. You better not feel this way.

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Speaker 3: Don't mess this up.

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Speaker 2: Man, Man, I wouldn't you know? And did like research

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Speaker 2: you like? Man? That's Anthony Hamilton? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you get surprised? Do people get surprised when they

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Speaker 2: Man, I ain't know you wrote that. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Uh, you got to win your Grammy with Al Green,

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Speaker 1: Right because because in the South, I mean, al is it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey yeah put that Al Green on absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I want I want my picture now, o ol Our Green,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of the collabs that you've been with,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that is that when you got into this business?

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of direction that you wanted to, like,

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to work with all the people who

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Speaker 1: So do you ever getting impressed because you're like, like

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Speaker 4: And pressed me right here on shame, I appreciate that this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, they like when we have conversation, Yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: But like when you hear somebody say, like, man, you

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Speaker 3: I've been watching Jazmine do that since she was eleven

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Speaker 2: What is Anthony Hamilton's mindset?

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Speaker 3: I want them to like it. I want them to

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: What's a Tina Marie Peter Marie?

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Speaker 1: You want that kind of passion when when when when

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's kind of the collapse. That's kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want that synergy, man. You want the energy

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Speaker 3: You want people to feel the energy that you're creating

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Speaker 3: from because that's ultimately what's gonna sell the record right

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Speaker 2: Give me your dream collab man, Wow.

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Speaker 3: be late though, I mean I wait on. I mean

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00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wait on him.

443
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: Just go ahead, Lauren Hill, go ahead, take a yeah,

444
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: but know you go see on Thursday.

445
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 2: Fright.

446
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm gonna be right in that way and on

447
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: the same outfit because I picked it out for her.

448
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: You have released unreleased songs with John Legend, Todd Dolland

449
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: and Jaques. Yes, yeah, you're ready for him to come

450
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 1: out of it brus.

451
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 3: I think that John Legend, definitely, it's a big record.

452
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: You a Legend on one.

453
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's a song actually he wrote it, and

454
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 3: it was a song that he sent me a few

455
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 3: songs and that one stood out to me, and I

456
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 3: can't wait for the world to hear that one song

457
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 3: with Jack.

458
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 4: Queeze's it's pretty dope.

459
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Anti Tie is just so that he's a

460
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,360
Speaker 3: he's a maniac with the pen.

461
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: Do people have a call it? You say, no, I'm good,

462
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 1: but you're more more pleasant than that. But you know what,

463
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm busy. I gotta you know what, let me check

464
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: my refrigerator life, I get back.

465
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: With you, you know what I have And one that I

466
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: really regret not really making time for. It wasn't the

467
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: fact that I didn't like what they were doing, but

468
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: I was just touring so hard.

469
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 4: Pit Bull really got I'm I.

470
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: Ain't on to it right now. Pit Bull, give me

471
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: one more chance, give me, give me, give me one

472
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 3: more chance. So yeah, I just love what he's done, man.

473
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 3: And at that moment, it was early in his career

474
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 3: and I was moving around a lot. But that's one

475
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 3: of the ones I just keep kicking myself about.

476
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: You did I think a video did a song with

477
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 2: the Baby Charlotte?

478
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, homeboys? Yeah?

479
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: So what's what's it like?

480
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, because you know there's something about a homeboy,

481
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: there's something about someone from North Carolina. Absolutely, he's from

482
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You're from you're from you know, right here

483
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. So what what was that? What was

484
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: that endeavor?

485
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 2: Like?

486
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 4: You know what?

487
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 2: Man?

488
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 3: You know, working with the baby like he was on fire.

489
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: I mean he came out and I heard about his name,

490
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: but when he came out, he hit he was on fire.

491
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, I know he's gonna have

492
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: a lot of energy. Yes, he's got that baby energy.

493
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: But was gonna speak to a similar lingo when I

494
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: was in the studio when it was after the Grammys.

495
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: We went into the studio saying on a song with him,

496
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 3: and we went into the studio after that and we

497
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: wrote blank, and I started saying a word that only

498
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: North Carolina people will say, she's gonna make me blank.

499
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: You're gonna have me pulling out a pistol, and certain

500
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: words like well, you're gonna make me blank? He knew

501
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: what that is, right, You're gonna make me go acting

502
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: donkey or if you shell shal as hell. So these

503
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 3: lingo we start talking about just being in Charlotte and

504
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: just a certain conversation that we have and certain lingos

505
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 3: that we have.

506
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: So we just just.

507
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 3: You know, bonded on that being North Carolina, and I

508
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 3: think that opened the door for him to just trust me.

509
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you and Jodysy are related. When did

510
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: you When did you realize that you guys were after

511
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: you guys had made it or you knew you knew

512
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: each other like growing up did when you had family

513
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: function they came and you were there, You're like, oh,

514
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: we related.

515
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: I think, you know a few times my family tried

516
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: to tell me, you know, they you know, just kidding

517
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: them through the truesdalees. I was like, okay, cool, but

518
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: I didn't you know, I ain't paid no attention.

519
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Right.

520
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: But then as as time going I started looking at him.

521
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: I said, well, they kind of looked like my people. Yeah,

522
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: and it wasn't a two case. He said, well, you know,

523
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: becauzins Truesdale and I was like, well maybe maybe maybe

524
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: it's some truth to it. Yeah, And so my you know,

525
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: I started asking around and was like, yeah.

526
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you ended up opening from there.

527
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: Yep.

528
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: The first tour I ever been on was the tour

529
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 3: with Joe to see the Freaking You tour, right, and uh,

530
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: you're talking about I thought I wanted to be in

531
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: the music business. I thought I wanted to be around

532
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: the girls.

533
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 4: But the.

534
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: Know, women that will come to those shows and the

535
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: after parties and the ha.

536
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I picked the right profession.

537
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was. I was a little nervous.

538
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: I was like, boy, this is a little more than

539
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: what I Oh, it was a lot.

540
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: It was a lot.

541
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: I mean, they were able to just get there back then,

542
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: I think people had access to be in your space. Yes,

543
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: a lot more yes than they do now. And I

544
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not ready. I wasn't I had to so.

545
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: What so what was it? I mean, I mean like

546
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: I got I mean, we got family. You know, we

547
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: toured and I got opened up. I mean, you said,

548
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: that's your first tour. You don't want to mess up,

549
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: even though you know we might be related, but I

550
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: still want I'll still want to do right.

551
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: By absolutely, absolutely, and even still now we shared some

552
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: of the same stages because Casey was like, Anthony, my cousin,

553
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna have to, so we all joke about it.

554
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: One of the guys in the tones as our cousin

555
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: as well as a guy in the middle j. So

556
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: it's always a friendly competition of family competition, you know,

557
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: because he's a bad boy and I learned a lot

558
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: from him. But yeah, you you know, you want to

559
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: make them proud and you want to represent them, and

560
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: uh it's fun too.

561
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: But you know what the thing is that you're trying

562
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: to make a name for yourself. You want to represent them,

563
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: but you know, you don't always want to be the

564
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: opening act. You want to be the closing you want to.

565
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: You don't pull the curtain the curtains.

566
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I can shut the curtain now. I can shut

567
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: the curtains now.

568
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: You know it's I made it.

569
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: I made a name for myself when it comes to

570
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: hitting the stage, I perform really hard. I give a lot, yeah,

571
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: and it's kind of hard to come behind me. If

572
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: you don't have the same passion, you can't measure up.

573
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a problem.

574
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: If I get who would you like to go on

575
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: tour with? Wow, I'm gonna get it's a tour, it's

576
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: three of y'all.

577
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: Ah, it's three shoot. I think that one of those

578
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 3: tools I've done really Maxwell.

579
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: And Joe, Maxwell, Anthony ain't gona lie. I mean I

580
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: think I done saw Maxwell like eight times a concert. Yeah,

581
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: in incredible every time.

582
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: He is unbelievable. Absolutely, I'm trying to figure out how

583
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 2: you still moved like that.

584
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 4: I'm I'm about to say them needs. He didn't get

585
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: them needs from t move needs.

586
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: You know, incredible man, and Joe's absolutely flawless and vocals

587
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: is always on point.

588
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: You know.

589
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: Another great tour Fantasia, I we do really well.

590
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: Wow, Fantasia you next, yeah, man, man, another tour. It's

591
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: so many out there. Man, I like to do her,

592
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: me and her and uh oh yeah, it's a young

593
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: guy coming up. His name is uh e J the

594
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: Chosen Voice. He's a young I mean he sounds like

595
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 3: Johnny Johnny guitar Watson, but.

596
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: Johnny Taylor.

597
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, this young guy man, look him up, man,

598
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: he's incredible.

599
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: Oh you know who? I would like to see you

600
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: do a song with Michelle and deggio Cello.

601
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Love her and I was trying to work with her too,

602
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: and she was ready and I don't know what happened.

603
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: I think my manager got me busy, and you know,

604
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: but still I love you too, Michelle.

605
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: I had to learn how to say that.

606
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see you fancy you got all that fancy education.

607
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: But I've seen her probably she's eight ten times and

608
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: from Colorado to La to Atlanta, the variety of playhouse.

609
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: I saw a little small intimate things.

610
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when I when I like something, I'm going, yeah,

611
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm going and and I love I love that soul.

612
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: You know, I don't got old now.

613
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: I can't be in all that noise bouncing around that I.

614
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: Just want to sit down, yeah, and enjoy yourself.

615
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Have a good old time.

616
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, go to chat you know Atlanta, go to chat

617
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: thing part Oh.

618
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: Man, that's a man.

619
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: You know another spot that is good too. It's in

620
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: La what's the one that's outside Yeah yeah, yea yeah,

621
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: Hollywood Bowl?

622
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah nice? Yeah. Man. I saw Max Well there so

623
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: John Legend there.

624
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've seen a little bit of John there.

625
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: I think I was there for a minute. It was

626
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: some kind of function going on, but I saw a

627
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: chance of rapper there.

628
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: Really.

629
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: Oh he's incredible too, man.

630
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check that out.

631
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned you were like in transition from like ninety

632
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: three to O three, and then you signed with Social Death.

633
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: You signed with Jermaine Dupre who had a party, who

634
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: was up on.

635
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: The air stuff.

636
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Yes, yeah, so what was that? So

637
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: how did how did where did you? How did Jamaine

638
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: stumble upon you?

639
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: His father?

640
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: His father heard me singing at a Grammy brunch really yeah,

641
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: and this is when you know, I didn't have a

642
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: deal or anything, and I was just like I had

643
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: been working with Mark Batton, who allowed me to come

644
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: produced Charlotte Charlene and Can't let Go. He produced Coming

645
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: from where I'm From, but he would let me come

646
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: down and just sing it right for free because he

647
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: was just a fan of my boy.

648
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: And that's how these the songs came about.

649
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: So the Grammy Brunch they invited me to sing, and

650
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: before I went on stage, I'm sitting in the back

651
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: and Komora Lee Simmons was staring at me and I

652
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, this just feels weird. And I didn't

653
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: even know who Michael Marten was. Isaac Hayes introduced me

654
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: on stage. I sang Coming from where I'm From like

655
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: it was the last song I ever had a chance

656
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: to sing, because at this moment I was ready to

657
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: give up again. The moment I got off stage, Michael

658
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: Malton came and say, hey, I have somebody I know.

659
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: I think you should talk to.

660
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: My son.

661
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: I said, okay, my son is Jermaine Duprix. I said,

662
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: oh wow.

663
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: He said, we just had a conversation about this type

664
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: of singing and this type of music. Do you mind

665
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: having you know, if I hook you all up or whatever.

666
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, But mind you. I had met Jermaine Duprix

667
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: back in the day where he was running around and

668
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: taking chriss cross around right, and I want to his

669
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: attention because I wanted him to know like I want

670
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: to sing. But he was busy. He wasn't rude, but

671
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: he was just busy. I was saying I have never

672
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: signed with him. I told him this, saying I never

673
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: signed with him. I was just in my feeling. God said,

674
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: if you want to make God laugh, make plays and

675
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, one.

676
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: Of the best collaboration. We're still great friends right now.

677
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 2: Wow.

678
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, samply.

679
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: M, you okay with letting the young artist jump on

680
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: something of yours?

681
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, I think it's you know.

682
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: You ever tell him? No, you ever told anybody?

683
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 6: Though?

684
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I had to. I think they

685
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: come to me with the right stuff.

686
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: If you come to me talking about killing shooting, I'll

687
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: kill you twice.

688
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: I may not want my music on that know what

689
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: I mean?

690
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: But uh or anything that's being disrespectful to any any

691
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: walk of life. But for the most part, I think

692
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: they do me.

693
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: Well.

694
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are some of the young R and B

695
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: artists that you that you that you like that you

696
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: know what I can I can?

697
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: I can rock with this.

698
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: I love her. I like Gibbeyon, I like Friday. What's

699
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: his name is? Lucky Day?

700
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: Okay?

701
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: I think he's a bad boy. He's a great writer. Wow.

702
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Who else I like? That's a few really good ones.

703
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: October London came out right, he came out with the

704
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: Marvin Gaye.

705
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Snoops Guy in it.

706
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Snoops Guy. Yeah?

707
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Who else?

708
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: I really like him right now?

709
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: Leon? I like Leon Thomas. I like what he's doing.

710
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: There's a few out there. It's really really good.

711
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: B BJ Chicago kid, that's my boy. Man, he's dope.

713
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: He's a dope.

714
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: It's a dope. Brother.

715
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: When you're driving around, do you listen? What do you

716
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: listen to? When when Anthony is in his car and

717
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: he's driving around? Yeah, what are you listening to?

718
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Man? You know what?

719
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: I make these playlists with different artists on it. I

720
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: might listen to Gunner okay. Uh, I may then I

721
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: go to Tupac and then I you know, I may

722
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: go to al Green.

723
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: Right, So it just depends on what mood I'm inn.

724
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: You know.

725
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: I do like to have an open playlist because you know,

726
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: I want to be able to have these different emotions

727
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: and it be all right right, you know. And now

728
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: ain't no better place than in your car. You be singing,

729
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: I'll be singing the hell. Hell, I might even say

730
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Charlayne if it come on at the right time. Yeah,

731
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: I get it to you at the real life.

732
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever been have you ever been

733
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: on like a taxi or uber and your song come on?

734
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely it didn't look at the mirror.

735
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: That's you. That's your part right there.

736
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just start singing, and you know, they don't know.

737
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: Sometime I tell them. Sometime I don't, right, yeah.

738
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: But if you if you start singing, it's like, man,

739
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: you sound good.

740
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you sound good.

741
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: I say, yes, that's that's absolutely actually my song, right yeah.

742
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Streaming. What are your thoughts on streaming? Because I get

743
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: different you know, different people say different things. Some people say,

744
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, you make good money. Some people say, oh,

745
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: you try to kill it.

746
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: They I mean they trying to kill us. I mean

747
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: it's just it's just robbing. You're just robbing you man.

748
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: You have to you have to spend so many times

749
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: to get anything.

750
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: Worth taking home.

751
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Man.

752
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they really did us in with that one.

753
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: And I'm shocked and disappointed that we didn't stand.

754
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: Up and speak out.

755
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the actress and actresses did I think it

756
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: got too far gone?

757
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's probably not gonna because I don't know

758
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: if we're ever gonna be able, you're gonna ever be

759
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: able to sell the hard copies like you once did.

760
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't think excuse me, the.

761
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Tower Records are gone now all you have a little

762
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: specially Bobby Pop shop.

763
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: They still sell vinyls. Yeah, yeah, but what used to be.

764
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: It used to be a thing, and you know, we go.

765
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: And listen to it in the headphones, you put it

766
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: come on, man, Yeah, I missed that Virgin Records and

767
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: the Tower and you know, yes, those are the good days.

768
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: Now it's just m.

769
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: And you get you get the eight track, you get

770
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: to record and everybody had to be quiet because you

771
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: can hear it in the background, the eight track.

772
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: That those were the times, man.

773
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: The great time. That's what made me want to be

774
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: a part of the music business. Now it's just you know, you,

775
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: you you make your living and you and you and

776
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: you make uh make your fan base happy and enjoy yourself.

777
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: But in terms of the music, how how it feels,

778
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: it's pretty sterile, pretty disconnected.

779
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: If you ask me, you were struggling artists go to

780
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 6: New York and that's less than seventy bucks in your pocket. Yeah,

781
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 6: what made you so convinced that you were gonna make it?

782
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: Because I not making it wasn't a knock option. No,

783
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: I had to because I had been living in and

784
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: breathing it and it was in my blood too deep,

785
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: Like that's who I am. It's like me dying. Did

786
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: you ever want to quit a few times but not

787
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: enough to really do it right?

788
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: You know?

789
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: Who could you call it when you were having those

790
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: moments where things weren't going your way and there are

791
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: times that you felt like giving up? Who was someone

792
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: that you could call and they said, Anthony, it's just

793
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: right around the corner.

794
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: My best friend Chop, who used to drive me from

795
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: Charlotte to New York and numerous times drive you.

796
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: We met in barber school, So I'm a barber.

798
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: You know.

799
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: I went to school to cut hair and do man

800
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: and women's hair. Yeah, he used to drive me. He

801
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: had a white BMW back then, and we get in

802
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: there and we drive all the way up to New

803
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: York singing playing yeah anybody Yeah? Edie came my friend

804
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Mma Montgomery Edie came. Yeah, those two they saw the gift.

805
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Hello, this might be internet because you know, you can't

806
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: believe everything on the internet. You can't believe everything you read.

807
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: Now, Aunt joe An, Aunt Joe Anne too.

808
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon brought you to call your first Yeah, man.

809
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick Cannon did. Yeah, now you bet.

810
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Nick.

811
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: On the video set, he did a song called can

812
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: I Live, paying respect to his mom for not aborting him,

813
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: and so a song called can I Live. So they

814
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: wanted me to be you know, I did the song,

815
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: but they wanted me in the video. The night of

816
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: the video, I was supposed to have flown out on

817
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: the Red Eye and so you know it's gonna be

818
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: really quick. We're gonna get you in and get you out.

819
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: I was there for hours and you know, didn't complain,

820
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: ended up getting wed. It was a scene that I

821
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: wasn't really supposed to be in the water. I'm wet.

822
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: Never complained, and he kept saying, he's like, man, he's

823
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: just being so grateful and gracious. I want to do

824
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: something special for him. And so I have been eyeing

825
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: this old station wagon gold and it's like he loves

826
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: that car. And don't you know, Nick wrote that man

827
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: to check that night for that car. That was my

828
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: first car ever owning. Nick bought my car, my first

829
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: car before I could buy.

830
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: It, a station wagon. Hu.

831
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen seventy one, same year I was born. Damn,

832
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: it's a it's a had the wood.

833
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: No, not this one. But I do like him. I

834
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: did want the word panel it. I wanted the truck,

835
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: the wagon there.

836
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: But it's a station wagon seventy one gold and it's beautiful.

837
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: I had to repaint it.

838
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: You still got it.

839
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, it's beautiful.

840
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: You still got it.

841
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: Really, Oh it's beautiful.

842
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna never let it go.

843
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Huh.

844
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna let that one car.

845
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: Nah. You've had a lot of cars since then, but

846
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: you go keep that one.

847
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had too many, I haven't had.

848
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: My first car that I bought was a Dodge d Rango,

849
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: and then after that I got an Infinity, a huge one.

850
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Then I finally got the big Boy. Now, yeah, the

851
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. But uh, he had not a lot

852
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: of cars. You know, my ex wife had a few, right,

853
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: But nah.

854
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's kind of hard for you having anything.

855
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: Now you got six kids.

856
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got you got a little buss,

857
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: you got a sprinder man.

858
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 4: See what happened when you come to club yeah with

859
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: six boys?

860
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: Man. Look, yeah, that's why I sing I ain't you available?

861
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I'm available and tomorrow too.

862
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: Uh.

863
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Well, obviously you've been in the music game for two decades.

864
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: Make good money. What is the one thing that you

865
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: learned about money?

866
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: Wow?

867
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: The more you make, the more somebody needed. Well, you know,

868
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: money is one of those things like it's it's great

869
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: to have, but if you don't know how to maneuver

870
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: with it, then it's almost not it's almost like not

871
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: having it. You don't know how to invest it the

872
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: right way, then it's just it's sitting there and it's

873
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: not really doing a lot for not.

874
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 4: Working for you, like not working for you like it's

875
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: supposed to.

876
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm looking at these people like, man,

877
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: how is it that they have so much wealth?

878
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: The right deals, the right investments is very important.

879
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know.

880
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: What do you think your best purchase? What's the best

881
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: purchase that you had?

882
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

883
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: My home, my home, yeah, my first house under a million.

884
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

885
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: You know, my financial vial at the time is a

886
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: black system like you don't need no else under a

887
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: million and wove the wood and all that it kept,

888
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: still still in it, still in it. I'm about to sell it.

889
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: The boy I got some equity.

890
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: C celebreak. I'm about to see the hell out of it.

891
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: Excuse my friends. Yeah, I think that's the That was

892
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: very a very smart move. Yes, and uh, I.

893
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: Always got to have a place to call home.

894
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 4: Man, it takes a lot of the stress away.

895
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. Yeah, one place you don't need fifteenth.

896
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: Places, no, no, no, no.

897
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: I tried that having a place in La And yeah,

898
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: it's just it's just way, it's just too much.

899
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 4: It's just too much. It's like stop.

900
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Did you see a single Kevin McCall like ebt?

901
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: Wow?

902
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: That was heartbreaking man, such a great writer, and he

903
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: had a promising future. Yes, you know, I just think

904
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: sometimes my personal stuff getting the way of of of

905
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: you know, our growth and relationships are important.

906
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you gotta chaish those relationships.

907
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's it's like you said, I mean, when

908
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: you make so much and not how much, And I

909
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: tell people it's not how much you make, it's how

910
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: much you keep. So there have been a lot of

911
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: people that's made a lot of money, but they can't

912
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: keep any of it. So what have you actually done?

913
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: What have you actually compid? Yeah, I'm afraid of that.

914
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to be.

915
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: Poor no more in no in, no way, no no form,

916
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 3: poor spirited or you know, just just want to be better.

917
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: You an American Gangs? Did you get to meet that?

918
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: You get to meet Denzael? What?

919
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: I met Denzel at the seventy fifth anniversary of the Apollo?

920
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: Okay?

921
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 4: And don't you know? He remembered that?

922
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Really?

923
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: He asked me on the set of American American Gangster.

924
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: I bet you don't know. I bet you don't know

925
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: the first time we met. I bet you don't know it.

926
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: I said, yes I do. He said where was it?

927
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: I said, the seventy fifth anniversary at the Apollo. That's right,

928
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: that's right? Did that? It's good to have you here.

929
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: It's such a class act.

930
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: How is it?

931
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we get an opportunity. We've never been on

932
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: set with him. All we see is the finished product.

933
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: But to be there and to watch him jump in character,

934
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I hear. He's very serious about it. He takes his

935
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: profession to the up teeth absolutely. And you know, people

936
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: are there excited and want the pictures? He said, no, no,

937
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: we're not here for no pictures. We're not here for pictures.

938
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: We're here to make this amazing movie.

939
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: We're here to be great and all that classy though,

940
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: But you don't feel offended, right, and he goes and

941
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: he nails it.

942
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: But what makes what do you think it is that

943
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: makes him special? Because we've seen him do Malcolm X

944
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: and he looks like Malcolm. We've seen him do Hurricane,

945
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: we see him do American Gangster. We've seen him uh

946
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: in Spike Lou Spike Leeds movie Inside Man, and we've

947
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: seen him Devil in Devil in Blue Dress, and we've

948
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: seen him in so many things.

949
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eli, yeah, oh man, what is it that makes

950
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: him special?

951
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: He keeps a little piece of Denzel in it. Nobody

952
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: else can be that.

953
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: I think that's his special sauce that Denzel the swag,

954
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: you know, even when he's.

955
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: Uh the what's the gangster movies? Equalized it?

956
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

957
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: Oh I caught on to those. Oh my god, I

958
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: didn't know they were so good.

959
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I remember the TV show that used to

960
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: come out. He used to come on.

961
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: Wow, I had no idea, but there's always a swag,

962
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: there's always a personality that only he possessed, and he

963
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: knows how to become the character. Well, you forget he's Denzel.

964
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: I was so mad at him in training day.

965
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Did he play that bag of what?

966
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: I just didn't. I just didn't like him. I was mad.

967
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: I was like, man, God, he's such an evil man.

968
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: But he was so great.

969
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: Jake, I'm gonna get that money.

970
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: How do you transform yourself into this character?

971
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: That deep man?

972
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: And he what he's able to do is he make you.

973
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: He will make you believe that he's that.

974
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 4: Yes.

975
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean when you watch him in Malcolm Max, you

976
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: couldn't tell me that was Malcolm mack He. I mean,

977
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: they did a great job with Bacol. It would make up,

978
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: but the way he spoke.

979
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: Bodied it incredible.

980
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: He's incredible. And you also on the set of Empire

981
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 2: with the Terrence Howur.

982
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

983
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, terres is a buddy of mine. Terrece likes music too.

984
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: He plays the guitar.

985
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, what is that when you singing what's

986
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: the name of that song? When he was in Memphis.

987
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah that movie Hustle. Yeah, yeah, I mean

988
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: he loves music. He's a music head man, and he's

989
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: a character. Every now and again, every couple of years

990
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: he called me, he found my number and called me.

991
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: There's been a couple of years, Terrs. Where you're at, uh,

992
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: but he normally keeps in contact.

993
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Man, you was on the Chappelle Show. Yeah, what's you

994
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: know what I think? Look that you can have a

995
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of guys, but the way he's able to tell

996
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: a story. Yeah, he he's at the top of the

997
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: He's at the top of the food chain right now.

998
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: He is the top he is at. Absolutely, he's such a.

999
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1000
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: He's such a technician when it comes to taking comedy

1001
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: and making it more than just comedy.

1002
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: Yes, because he could.

1003
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you take real life events, you

1004
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: take your events and you make them funny.

1005
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: He's so the way he could weave incredible.

1006
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: He's he's he's he's the goat. He absolutely Chris Rock

1007
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: is another one who's in credit out.

1008
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: I love Rock.

1009
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: I saw both of them at the Radio City Music

1010
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: Hall and.

1011
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: They were hotly Wood Bowl a couple of years ago. Out.

1012
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's a really great if you can see

1013
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: those Kevin Hard I was disable to you know, go

1014
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 3: check out the show and hang out backstage with him.

1015
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: Incredible.

1016
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: Oprah Mm hmm, you're on the show. What called they

1017
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: called me Dad? You on oprah show?

1018
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: Oh?

1019
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: I did, absolutely, I almost forgot that. Yeah, me and

1020
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: my younger three? Yeah, yeah, that was that was big.

1021
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: That was So what's the age range? So you got

1022
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: the older three? That's what howard of the oldest?

1023
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: My oldest is turned thirty seven?

1024
00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: What?

1025
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thirty seven too. I don't know.

1026
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: So you got an early start, early early.

1027
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 4: Which clock are you counting? So look, I was I

1028
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: was very young. I was probably sixteen.

1029
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh yeah, yeah, you so saying, okay, she was

1030
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: older than me.

1031
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: I think I need to bring up on charges. How

1032
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: far can you go back?

1033
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: Not that far?

1034
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: You better watch yourself.

1035
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 3: But no, it was my high school high school, sweet

1036
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: all right? So yeah, thirty seven, uh, thirty four and

1037
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: twenty eight, and then Mike's wife had my my twins

1038
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: about to be fifteen in a couple of days, and

1039
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: my baby boy is thirteen. All I'm with you, yeah,

1040
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: but well four of them in Charlotte, Arlotte. Anthony Junior,

1041
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: he lives in Charlotte, but then in his own home.

1042
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: But my younger three with me, like seventy five eighty

1043
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: percent at the time.

1044
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: When I'm home, they.

1045
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: Drive you carpool dad you you all that?

1046
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: Huh every morning? Yeah, except for this morning. I had

1047
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: to come here and the club. Yeah. So when like

1048
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: you said that, when you're on the road, your ex

1049
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: will take them. Yeah, yeah, they go there, right, and

1050
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: sometimes she takes my little dog.

1051
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: Really what a nice lady.

1052
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: Having six boys, that's a huge responsibility. What do you

1053
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: Because you said and I find this, I see this

1054
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: a lot, is that when the father is not around,

1055
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: you try to make sure you're more around because you

1056
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: try to get away. You you know what it was

1057
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: like not to have a dad, and you don't want

1058
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: your kids to feel like that.

1059
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1060
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: I work really hard to make sure that they know

1061
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm present, Like I go to school meetings, you know,

1062
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: I try to help with homework.

1063
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: My brain my brain different.

1064
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna fail.

1065
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: My base player his daughter, you know, been to to

1066
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: ring my boys for years. So I'll make sure you

1067
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: got everything that you need, right, But you know, I

1068
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: just want them to know like it matters, Like I'm

1069
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: just not gonna shove money in your hand.

1070
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: In right, and say that's gonna make it okay.

1071
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Now that's not gonna make it okay because they're gonna

1072
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: resent me later on when money can't you know, offer

1073
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: them and fix it.

1074
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it can't fix it.

1075
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Some things money can fix, but they're gonna be they can't.

1076
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: There're gonna be some things that money can't fix.

1077
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1078
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're married. You mentioned you're mad.

1079
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: What fifteen years ten together, thirteen fourteen?

1080
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: How hard is it to end the marriage when kids

1081
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: are involved? Because I'm not so sure kids really understand.

1082
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: They're just like, okay, mom and dad together, and then

1083
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: now mom and dad not together.

1084
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: You know that that's one of the things that make

1085
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: you want to fight a little harder because.

1086
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to break it up.

1087
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: Break that up. You want them to have that perfect family.

1088
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: I think we all dream of having a perfect family,

1089
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: mom and dad in the house. But you get to

1090
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: a point where it's like, do I want them just

1091
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: in the house around something that's not as healthy as

1092
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: it should be.

1093
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard, Yeah, it is.

1094
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: It's hard when you like staying together just for the kids,

1095
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: because yeah, while we want to do the right thing,

1096
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: but we're miserable. I mean, how long are you going

1097
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: to be miserable. I'm not going to say that you

1098
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: were miserable, but I'm just saying.

1099
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 4: No, I get it, I get it.

1100
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 3: I don't want them to think it's okay to accept

1101
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: anything that's not you know, up to what you what

1102
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: you deserve, right, Yeah, you know the quality of life, man,

1103
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: it starts with the relationships you allow yourself to be

1104
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 3: in as well.

1105
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: Would you get married again? Absolutely? Yeah, you have more kids.

1106
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: That wasn't sure. That wasn't so quick with that.

1107
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: You know what it depends. I know I'm praying. I

1108
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: was like, Lord, what is going on?

1109
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: You trying to hold on? That means you'd be going

1110
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: to the high school graduation at seventy one. They're like,

1111
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do that, a little market, shouldn't grandfather, But

1112
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: I have I have on sneakers.

1113
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: That's my grand My grandfather knows my daddy.

1114
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: I wear some sneakers. I'll be going Ordan, I'll be

1115
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: wearing some sketches. Yeah, yeah, I know you're a snigger

1116
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: here too.

1117
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gonna the schedule.

1118
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: I might have to I might.

1119
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Have to go.

1120
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: I might have to I might have to go to

1121
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: some special shoes. You know, that's that's a hard one

1122
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, you know, because it's like starting you're

1123
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: still on the road, still on the road, and you know,

1124
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: changing pathers and all that stuff, the hard parts that I.

1125
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: Made it through. Yeah, you don't want to do that again.

1126
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: So that's when you're dating or trying to be in

1127
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: a relationship at this age. You know, whoever you choose

1128
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: to today, you have to take all that in consideration.

1129
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm taking in consideration. She still a child bearing years.

1130
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

1131
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: Move right along.

1132
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: What's the dating seemed like for Anthony Hamilton?

1133
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you a difficult date?

1134
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm pretty simple. I like good food and good conversation.

1135
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna have a good wine. Make it

1136
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: a good one. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

1137
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: Dating is different.

1138
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: It's dating different after you get after you've been married

1139
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: for the length of time that you've been married.

1140
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you off the market for a minute.

1141
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: So it's dating different now than when you first Let's

1142
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: just say when you first started and you were dating.

1143
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: Is it how much different is dating now that it

1144
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: was then?

1145
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: Well, you want to be able to go somewhere and

1146
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: be regular, Yeah, I think that's the harder part, being

1147
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: able to go somewhere and sit down and have a

1148
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: meal without interruptions and uh, you know, and choosing people

1149
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 3: that that you feel have really good intentions.

1150
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, that's that's weaven through that hard. Yeah.

1151
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 3: And then I don't want to talk about my favorite

1152
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 3: color and all that. I don't I don't care about

1153
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: the ain't no color. I just yeah all that. Uh yeah,

1154
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 3: you get up to a certain age, So so what.

1155
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: You got to talk about something at where you talk

1156
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: about what you like to cook, what's your hobbies, what

1157
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: place you like to go?

1158
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know you do it, but.

1159
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: Just just.

1160
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 4: Where I'm wearing it. Cut the conversation now, I'm just kid.

1161
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: You know, you get to know people, listen to their

1162
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: stories and you share stories and you know, yeah.

1163
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: How long do you date before you bring someone around the.

1164
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: Kids or No, I think that takes that's a that's

1165
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: a very very protective space for me.

1166
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1167
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't just let anybody in my house. I

1168
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: don't even have parties and stuff in my house because.

1169
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna go back and tell mama. You

1170
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: know that.

1171
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: No, I mean, if you ignorant. I mean, yeah, you

1172
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: know she has a right to know. Who's a round up?

1173
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely because I want to know, Yes, because I pull up,

1174
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: like what's going on? But yeah, you know you, I

1175
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 3: think the spirit has starting to speak. Some might take

1176
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 3: a little more time and some don't ever make it,

1177
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: and then others just like this person is pretty decent.

1178
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: The energy is good. And you know what makes you

1179
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: take more time? When they're trying too hard to be

1180
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: a part of your kids, be in a space when

1181
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: am I going to meet the kids? Neville? Yeah that

1182
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: that that that bothers me. When you're trying too hard.

1183
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: The relationship with your parents. How different are you with

1184
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: your kids than when your parents work with you?

1185
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: There's some similarities because I'll bust you about to tear

1186
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: your tail up, but.

1187
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 4: You know I want to. I want to give you

1188
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 4: a voice.

1189
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: You know, at a certain age you should have to

1190
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 3: be able to express yourself. And I hear of you

1191
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: and and just take that and start to guide you

1192
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: based on who you are, as opposed to making you

1193
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 3: be who I think you should be. So I think

1194
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: back then they didn't know no better.

1195
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: No now we have. It was no reason you no

1196
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: reason what a child.

1197
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they tell you what you were gonna eat, and

1198
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: they tell you what you were thinking, They tell you

1199
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: what you were doing.

1200
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't no, Well what would you like to do today?

1201
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1202
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gonna do what I tell you to do,

1203
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: eat what I put on the table.

1204
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. I got a liveit of that in men.

1205
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: So I try to keep a good balance, be friendly

1206
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: without you know, blurring the lines of.

1207
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: The respect, because I think to now now, in today's time,

1208
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: we got too many parents want to be friends.

1209
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 4: That's where you go round.

1210
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm not your friend, your friend down the street. Yeah,

1211
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: our dynamic won't ever change, no matter what. You're always

1212
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: gonna be dead and you're always gonna be the child.

1213
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I told him I was born first for a reason.

1214
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah you know.

1215
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: And uh, you know. We can have a good time.

1216
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: We can hang out, have fun and watch movies and

1217
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 3: all that. But when I tell you to do something,

1218
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: I need for you to do it, yeah, and do

1219
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: it with excellence.

1220
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: But you know what we couldn't ask.

1221
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: We couldn't ask our grandparents why when they said do something,

1222
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: we couldn't snack?

1223
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 3: Why get smacked in the mouth. I done got smacked

1224
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: in the mouth so many times.

1225
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: Suck it.

1226
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 3: What I didn't know that was cussing. Oh, I didn't

1227
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: know that was cussing. So all that's cussing. Those a

1228
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: curse word. I didn't know that until that backhand, that

1229
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: back end mouth. Yeah, my mom my little mama didn't

1230
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 3: play my grandma. She was with the switches. My mom

1231
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: was with that back end. She had a main, quick

1232
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 3: backhand close.

1233
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1234
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 4: Man, So I learned to run really fast.

1235
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: Because the thing is anthrom the way you and I

1236
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: was brought up. You can't raise kids like that. You

1237
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: going to jail, absolutely, you know, you know the jail.

1238
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: But I'd be so upset at times. I might call

1239
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: the police so they can watch. But you know, being

1240
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: kids now, they have a lot of rights. Yeah, too many.

1241
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: I think.

1242
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they have too many rights. And they

1243
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 3: know it, yes, and they manipulate you, to manipulate the

1244
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,959
Speaker 3: system and so on. These kids now they look crazy. Yeah,

1245
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 3: I love y'all. Y'all look crazy. They look crazy.

1246
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that I think it's fourteen. You had

1247
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: to make a decision that you was gonna give. You

1248
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: got adopted by a family friend.

1249
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 4: From when I went to school.

1250
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, really. Yeah.

1251
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you told did you how did you

1252
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: break that news to your mom?

1253
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 4: It was actually in the court?

1254
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: Damn, you didn't tell her before me.

1255
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 4: I just was over there already. Yeah, It's like, I'm

1256
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just gonna go over here.

1257
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: And she said no.

1258
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: At that moment, I think she was just trying to

1259
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: figure out what was pushing me to that, and so

1260
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: she really, you know, really didn't have a say. I

1261
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: just kind of just kind of left.

1262
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: Did you and her have a conversation before it got

1263
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: to the point that you wanted to leave or you

1264
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: felt that you needed to leave? Were there ever any

1265
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: conversations between you two?

1266
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: That was just anger in me?

1267
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: You're so angry you couldn't talk.

1268
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just felt like you, being a parent, you

1269
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: should know better, you should be able to, you know,

1270
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: do a little different, and so I just I was

1271
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: just mad because I couldn't. I couldn't help everybody, right,

1272
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: you know, you know, I just saw a lot of

1273
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: people needing their lives to be different, and so I

1274
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: couldn't change that.

1275
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: So I just followed all that up there.

1276
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: But you had some trauma, you dealt with some trauma

1277
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: earlier at the age of seven, you saw your uncle

1278
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: shoot your cousin's husband.

1279
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Yeah a nice man too.

1280
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Had you ever experienced death before? Did you know what

1281
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: death was?

1282
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: I knew by going to the funeral, but I didn't

1283
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: really know.

1284
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: Right that was the first time seeing something like that.

1285
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: That was what caused him to get so upset.

1286
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1287
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: I have no idea uncle uncle, uncle Jay was He's

1288
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: a hunt and do all that stuff, so he was

1289
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: a wild man anyway. I just think, you know, they

1290
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: had words and then he didn't like it, and I

1291
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: think he had been on the bottle, so I think

1292
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: they have probably had a lot to do with it.

1293
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: But I don't even think he made a lot of time, really,

1294
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1295
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: Back then they ain't send people to Yeah. I don't

1296
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: know what happened. I don't know what it was. But

1297
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: back then people ain't really geting no time, like they

1298
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: get you shoot somebody like that, Now you going to jail?

1299
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, until they stopped making coffee that I

1300
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: can still see that. You never get that vision, no,

1301
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: you never. It wasn't like a bunch of blood or anything.

1302
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: I just remember them laying a pillow under his head.

1303
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: After I heard the shot, I saw it.

1304
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was outside or inside.

1305
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm side. We were in my grandmother's house looking at

1306
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 4: the screen door.

1307
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: I heard him arguing the next day. You know, a

1308
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: gun goes off.

1309
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard him yelling, come you come outside, and

1310
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: he came outside.

1311
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if I would have.

1312
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Nah no, back then that's what you know, you asking

1313
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: for it, meet me such and such. Yeah good, I'm

1314
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna drive right on past.

1315
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm not. You know, my ego is intact. Yeah, yeah,

1316
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: I'm staying in the house, right. You know, it's a

1317
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 3: smarter you.

1318
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you got your start, you went to

1319
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: barber barber school.

1320
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: You good? You good with them clippers? Oh?

1321
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. I might not look like it because I choose.

1322
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: You know, just just started making me groceries. I'm gonna

1323
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: keep it. I don't want them to miss mishandle the

1324
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: check and send it to the smooth face guy.

1325
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: Uh but yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm still You know, I

1326
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 4: got six sons. You know, you want to say some money, but.

1327
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh you cut that, so you cut off you cut

1328
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: the hair.

1329
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, four of them have blocks now okay, but

1330
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: they still want to fade in and shape shape up

1331
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, so.

1332
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: You're good with the raid. Uh oh yeah you did

1333
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: you raisor Shavee, did you do absolutely?

1334
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: You had to to to finish school fifteen hundred hours. Yeah,

1335
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: so I did perms. I did Jerry curls back then.

1336
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: There they were. Yeah.

1337
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the little smelly curre. I put the little paper

1338
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: on that thing. Oh yeah, that looked like something, but.

1339
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: It's Jerry Carroll. That's Jerry Carell, right yeah man eight

1340
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 4: oh that little that strap for that strap.

1341
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: Man, you have to yeah, you had to. You had

1342
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: to learn to do that taper fade. Yeah, and uh,

1343
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: I think the curl, the curl. You had to be

1344
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: able to do a curl.

1345
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: You still you ain't gonna let that go? You clean

1346
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: this up?

1347
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: You know what?

1348
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: Sometime I sometime I do, and sometime I then it

1349
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: gets boring. Then I want to you know, grungey no

1350
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: shave you know, man, it's like, uh, this is a

1351
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: Carolina dirt.

1352
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta known for the struggling beard. Now, huh.

1353
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: Your cat used to be mad at me when coming

1354
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: from where I'm from, came out and I end up,

1355
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: I cut it right.

1356
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 4: It was so upset. It's like, man, that that's the struggle, right.

1357
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: It represents a struggle for a lot of people like

1358
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: you look like you struggle like me, and uh, really

1359
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: people were really upset.

1360
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 4: It's like, fine, I grow it back.

1361
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: Or whatever whatever is doing growing up a pearing, I'll

1362
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: period back.

1363
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

1364
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm getting an opportunity to sing for your state team,

1365
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: the Hornets, the national anthem.

1366
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan on the team. Yeah you ever made Michael? Oh?

1367
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Michael. He's supported me from from there one. A

1368
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: lot of the tours and stuff, sponsored a lot of

1369
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: a lot of.

1370
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: Things for me. And uh, I've been getting some Jordan's

1371
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 4: for yeah.

1372
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you had a couple of pair over there.

1373
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you're a sneakerhead. I was like, I

1374
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: got if he try it.

1375
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that.

1376
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: I see that I had a few pairs one of

1377
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: ups look at you. Oh yeah, oh these are things.

1378
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 3: So I know you got a few pair, but DC,

1379
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: these are the ones Jordans. I won one through thirty. Yeah,

1380
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: but you only could pick two colors, right, So if

1381
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 3: it's black and white all thirty pairs, it's gonna be black.

1382
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: And White, so Me, Carmelo, Anthony, Brigitto, Barrett, and Kawhile

1383
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: Lennet was on the team. So we had to outdesign people.

1384
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: So we out designed them. We did the the number

1385
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: one because they used to make his feet bleed, so

1386
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: we created a number one called the Bloodline. But I won.

1387
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 3: We won our team one, so we all got thirty pairs.

1388
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: So this is one of us.

1389
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1390
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody has the chocolate with the bubblegum bottoms. So

1391
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: I got thirty of these. If y'all want to buy

1392
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 3: a big I'm the thing, and these are camellos. I

1393
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: was like, I know you ain't got DZ no, but

1394
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: I've said you got some, you got some.

1395
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: Joint Yeah, I got some, but I saw I sold some.

1396
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: I think, Uh, what was that November of twenty.

1397
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 4: Four you did?

1398
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I sold like three hundred pair.

1399
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 4: God dog, you sold three hundred, so you still got.

1400
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: Probably like two seventy five maybe another.

1401
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 4: Three cook god yeah, you got me beat. Yeah. I

1402
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: got hats though, or you a hat guy?

1403
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1404
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 4: Like I like my hats, God Dog, So you sold

1405
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 4: three hundred pack?

1406
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think three twenty three thirteen three twenty

1407
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: three wow.

1408
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 3: You know sneakers now they go yeah and they're yours.

1409
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you ain't even gotta do this no more.

1410
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: You got I just you know, the thing was us like,

1411
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: you know what, somebody need to get some use out

1412
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: of these I'm not wearing. I wear the same sneakers

1413
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: all the time.

1414
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: Me too.

1415
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: You know, now after you get so much stuff, man,

1416
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: it's like it's just hard. I realized now I'm started

1417
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: buying the same old jean jacket, just a different or something.

1418
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: So you realize just cut it out.

1419
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, Anthony, thank you for coming by,

1420
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: thank you for performing, thank you for telling your story. Absolutely,

1421
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely certain how audience is gonna love this, because

1422
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: love when we sit down and have a conversation, you

1423
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: talk about this song, you performed the song.

1424
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: Man. I can't thank you enough.

1425
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you absolutely, thank you. Appreciate you.

1426
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 4: Before I go, I have a gift. It is for life.

1427
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: It's a young designer out of Charlotte, North Carolina, and uh.

1428
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: He knows about your career and I want you to

1429
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: have this for life.

1430
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1431
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: His name is Dub Dub yeah.

1432
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 3: Man number three, and uh he's a designer out of

1433
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: Charlotte and an amazing musician.

1434
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, bro for life all my life.

1435
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 5: Grinding all my life sacrifice, want to slice all my life.

1436
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life.

1437
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 5: My life, grinding all my life sacrifice thatssell, play the

1438
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 5: price and want to slice. Got to brow the dice,

1439
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 5: swad all my life. I've been grinding all my life.

1440
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 6: Mm hmm