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Speaker 1: Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. What is up, everybody? We have another edition
Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys for you guys today. Of course I'm Taylor,
Speaker 1: joined by Nick, Rob and Brian. So, guys, whether you're
Speaker 1: watching or listening today, we've got a great show for you.
Speaker 1: We are breaking down the Cowboys and the Broncos this week.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys knew this, well I'm
Speaker 1: sure you did, Mick, but the Cowboys have not been
Speaker 1: able to win at Denver since nineteen ninety two. Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: as you feel it weren't even born yet. Whoa, that's
Speaker 1: a Statick, you know that. Mick joining us today. I oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta have this thing here at your or pay attention,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. We are on the getting organized,
Speaker 1: that's what you do before the show. Well, they haven't
Speaker 1: beaten them since ninety five. Yeah, so at Denver at
Speaker 1: Oh I'm saying any time, No, I know, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Thank you Jason, because by the way, Jason,
Speaker 1: it's four straight that they've lost to them too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let's get into it in the SWBC Mortgage studio. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys are looking to get that win no matter where
Speaker 1: they are. But they are at Denver their first road
Speaker 1: game of the twenty seventeen season. And I thought an
Speaker 1: interesting thing that happened yesterday in the locker room because
Speaker 1: I think this will make a difference in the game turnovers.
Speaker 1: Did you hear what Anthony Brown said about what this
Speaker 1: team considers their goal for turnovers? I heard coach say
Speaker 1: something about forty takeaways. Forty takeaways? Huh? Last year Kansas
Speaker 1: City led the league with thirty three? Am I right?
Speaker 1: I think that sounds right. Yeah, you get forty, you're
Speaker 1: probably leading the league every year. You're winning a lot
Speaker 1: of games. It averages out to two point five per game.
Speaker 1: Oh so that's not Louisiana math Hey the year before,
Speaker 1: when did they finish? Remember they had like thirty something.
Speaker 1: I remember maybe it was twenty fourteen. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: a time when they had twenty fourteen because the four
Speaker 1: and twelve season, I think that was like at eleven
Speaker 1: one time. Yeah, I think it was a history making league.
Speaker 1: Low a couple of years ago. Absolutely, yes, So does
Speaker 1: can this team do that? We will have to see
Speaker 1: you think, so, you think I mean forty I think
Speaker 1: is okay, that's I understand the lofty goals there, but
Speaker 1: it is it's thirty realistic, thirty two realistic? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: So what did they finish with last year? I'm looking
Speaker 1: it up right now. We'll get you. Man, it was
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty maybe it was one of them twenty
Speaker 1: So it's more than that, wouldn't you anyway? I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if you look at the
Speaker 1: way they created a lot of turnovers in the preseason,
Speaker 1: you know, the fumbles and things had cost fumbles, recover
Speaker 1: then recover them all. Yeah, they had one game where
Speaker 1: they had five that they they caused and couldn't get
Speaker 1: on one of them. But you know, is you talked
Speaker 1: about this defense yesterday? They're capable? Yeah, I think so,
Speaker 1: because I think are we just dreaming here now? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. I mean, one game is
Speaker 1: one game, right to be consistent. But I think what's
Speaker 1: going on up front can help what will end up
Speaker 1: havinging in the back end if those guys can continue
Speaker 1: to apply pressure, and then once you get back David
Speaker 1: Irving and uh Demontrey Moore got some nice rotation, and
Speaker 1: with the addition of Price and Paya, I think you
Speaker 1: could make an addition, I mean a difference up there.
Speaker 1: They were very close to getting two takeaways the other night,
Speaker 1: which you average that out, that's thirty two for the season.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I almost had that fumble recovery with
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith with the swipe. They kind of had it.
Speaker 1: They tied for nineteenth last year, and takeaways with twenty
Speaker 1: they go. Mickey was right right in the middle of money.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that finally a player is coming out
Speaker 1: there and giving us some heat with their words and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we're ready to go after these goals and get them. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what they Mickey's right, though, I think that
Speaker 1: if you find a way, this is gonna be not
Speaker 1: so much on the defense, it's gonna be on the offense.
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna sound weird to say it that way,
Speaker 1: but if the offense can continue to provide pressure on
Speaker 1: defenses to have to throw the football, you know, if
Speaker 1: you get into a game all of a sudden and
Speaker 1: Dallas is scoring and continues to score. This is the
Speaker 1: Denver game is gonna be a great example of this.
Speaker 1: I put as much pressure on that quarterback Simeon to
Speaker 1: have to match me to score. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys they get into a game all of
Speaker 1: a sudden where it's four drives, three touchdowns, make him
Speaker 1: have to make him have to play play in a
Speaker 1: game where he has to put the ball up. I
Speaker 1: think that's overall with the NFL. You get a quarterback
Speaker 1: that has to force throws to get his team back
Speaker 1: in the game. Don't just drive the bus, right Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get some turnovers. Yeah, because if
Speaker 1: you're not scoring, they'll just play cozy football. Oh there's
Speaker 1: no question about no sense taking a chance, right because
Speaker 1: you say, okay, this possession, well we'll live to Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, well we'll put punch ball live for another possession.
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're scoring, the quarterbacks got to
Speaker 1: start taking chances. I remember talking to Romo about that
Speaker 1: when you know they were so so, and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't give up a possession. I gotta go for it, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta take a chance. He goes, Okay, I threw
Speaker 1: an interception on third down, big deal, But I had
Speaker 1: to do it because we're we're behind by behind, Yeah,
Speaker 1: behind behind by a couple scores. So yeah, you put
Speaker 1: pressure on the posing offenses by scoring yourself, right, not
Speaker 1: kicking field goals. Yeah, I just that's to me, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be if they want to get some reasonable goal
Speaker 1: of thirty or whatever. For I mean, forty I don't
Speaker 1: think is realistic, but thirty, I think it's going to
Speaker 1: come down to, can you put enough pressure on your
Speaker 1: opponents to have to play football with you? Hey? And
Speaker 1: if you do, you got a shot. I'm all for that.
Speaker 1: Let's get into a new game here. We're going to
Speaker 1: have on our Wednesday and Thursday shows. Wednesday being today,
Speaker 1: we're going to be discussing the Cowboys offense versus the
Speaker 1: Broncos defense. So I asked these guys to give me
Speaker 1: one guy on the opponent's defense, Bronchos defense this week
Speaker 1: that they'll be looking at us and to tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit more about him. So I'll start, since
Speaker 1: you know, we'll get this game going and tomorrow we'll
Speaker 1: switch it. They'll tell me guys on the Broncos offense
Speaker 1: that we need to know about. So you're talking about
Speaker 1: them scoring. Dez Bryant might be a big help for
Speaker 1: this Cowboys offense this week. I think that he will
Speaker 1: be hungry. He's a good receiver when it comes down
Speaker 1: to having to beat up certain secondary guys. Sure the
Speaker 1: guy I'm looking at him to kind of beat up
Speaker 1: in his match as a keep to leap. I think
Speaker 1: that a keep Delibe obviously is an aggressive kind of guy.
Speaker 1: He's from Texas, so I think he's he's looking to
Speaker 1: have this matchup be a little bit of a personal thing,
Speaker 1: personal from Garland. Yeah, which I like to see because
Speaker 1: then you get a real energy and Dez feeds up
Speaker 1: that after we saw it last week. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be upset with his performance that he had week one
Speaker 1: and want to go in here hungry. But to keep
Speaker 1: de leip you gotta know that he likes to play
Speaker 1: that that tight with the receiver. Yeah, so his Dez
Speaker 1: this is going to be good. I think there will
Speaker 1: be fireworks again. But he's good with following the receiver
Speaker 1: but then looking at the quarterback right, so keep Delibe
Speaker 1: will want to be focused on Dak seeing his adjustments.
Speaker 1: He's the leader of their corners. I think, yeah, big
Speaker 1: guy in their super Bowl will win. So this is
Speaker 1: a guy. This a good matchup there, Tay are good, good,
Speaker 1: good thoughts and all very correct. I think this is
Speaker 1: one of those things where to Leib, Dez has a
Speaker 1: chance to get really pissed off in this game, and
Speaker 1: I mean pissed off in way maybe frustrated, because what
Speaker 1: happens with Talib, Like you said, he plays such tight
Speaker 1: coverage that he gets away with holding. He gets away
Speaker 1: with a lot of holding, and you know, and we've
Speaker 1: seen when Dez gets into a match with somebody that
Speaker 1: is tries to be just as physical with him, then
Speaker 1: it's a you know, it becomes a frustration factor, especially
Speaker 1: if the referees call the game very very loose. You know,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get his due of going down the
Speaker 1: field and having the opportunity to go get the football.
Speaker 1: We've seen Dez with a lot of contested catches are
Speaker 1: having to make contested catches. That's what Talib will do here.
Speaker 1: So this is this is one of those games that
Speaker 1: could go either way for Dez. It could be a
Speaker 1: high watermark game, you know, productive super be hungry, or
Speaker 1: it could be a Volcano game where he just erupts, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean erupts in a pissed off way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we saw he got into it with the Giants, Corners,
Speaker 1: Jenkins and all them last week. That's a good matchup
Speaker 1: tape because as good and we'll talk about a certain
Speaker 1: pass rusher here in a minute, but as good as
Speaker 1: they are upfront, that no fly zone that they talk about,
Speaker 1: that secondary is might be the strength of their defense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you think about what they've been able to do
Speaker 1: holding quarterbacks Philip rivers one hundred eighty five passing yards
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, they've got guys who can make plays,
Speaker 1: make plays on the ball. And it's not just to leave.
Speaker 1: It's it's Harris, it's Roby, who had an interception the
Speaker 1: other night too. Yes, all right, well you hinted at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's your guy? You're gonna tell you? Yeah, Rob. I'll
Speaker 1: go with another Texan, a proud aggie who is probably
Speaker 1: the best overall pass rusher in the NFL, one of
Speaker 1: the best we've seen in a long long time, and
Speaker 1: that's von Miller. I don't know if there's anybody in
Speaker 1: the NFL that can match his combination of first step, power, agility,
Speaker 1: and he's rounding out his game too. I think he's
Speaker 1: become better in coverage. They've tried to do things to
Speaker 1: be better against the run, but the main thing for
Speaker 1: him is that first step. And they'll move him around.
Speaker 1: They'll start him on the week's side, they'll move him
Speaker 1: to the strong side, he'll play left, he'll play right.
Speaker 1: So there's a chance Tyran Smith season Lyle Collins will
Speaker 1: see him as well. And he's just he has the
Speaker 1: agility of like a skill position offensive player. I mean,
Speaker 1: he moves like a like a running back out there. Um,
Speaker 1: it's that first step that they've got to be careful of.
Speaker 1: He's got over twelve tackles or up sacks per per
Speaker 1: season over his first six seasons in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: he's just a blur. I mean there's a play in
Speaker 1: preseason a couple of weeks ago when they played Green
Speaker 1: Bay where they tried to ship him on the left
Speaker 1: side and he spins inside, makes an inside move against
Speaker 1: the tackle and just moves away from the I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just he's he's a blur out there. So I
Speaker 1: kind of do I kind of do Miles Garrett, come
Speaker 1: on selfish their defensive end. Yeah, Soda wishes he was
Speaker 1: still there. I'll tell you this quarterback. I like what
Speaker 1: Rob's talking about there absolutely, I think you know that's
Speaker 1: gonna be. I don't see them wasting snaps against Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith with with von Miller. I think that von Miller
Speaker 1: goes the other side, even though it needs right. I
Speaker 1: think you'll see both. But I would be real cautious
Speaker 1: to find the broncos of having to play von Miller
Speaker 1: down after down after down against Tyrn Smith. That's good.
Speaker 1: Collins is his match. I think Colleges they're gonna beat
Speaker 1: up on the right tackles. I think they're gonna try.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna try. Yeah, and but you know
Speaker 1: this is where And to Rob's point, if you look
Speaker 1: at he's got thirty seven career sacks at Sports Authority field,
Speaker 1: twenty three of them have come in the last three years.
Speaker 1: So if you talk about home sack, they take great
Speaker 1: advantage of the home field they have with the crowd noise.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to the tackles are gonna have to be right
Speaker 1: on the screws to get this one taking care of
Speaker 1: because again, you're getting some long yarded situations are bad
Speaker 1: down in distant situations like Rob was talking about last
Speaker 1: week with the Giants, then all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 1: screaming off the corner. This guy is not as good
Speaker 1: of a run player as he is a pass rusher,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where you got to hammer him
Speaker 1: when you get that opportunity. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: you got to do when you play three four defenses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got those skinny little defense outside linebackers who are
Speaker 1: essentially defensive ends, and you got to keep them occupied
Speaker 1: stopping the run. Right, Just think they're gonna pin their
Speaker 1: ears back the one area of their defense where they
Speaker 1: haven't been dominant. Do you think this will be a
Speaker 1: game where Dak will really rely on his mobility making
Speaker 1: sure that he gets the runs. I mean, we've seen
Speaker 1: him do it. If he can't find that open pass
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a run play, he's gonna go for
Speaker 1: it himself. Well, I think he has to be careful though.
Speaker 1: This is a defense that can rally to the football. They're,
Speaker 1: like coach Garrett said, are they're a good tackling defense.
Speaker 1: So you have to be careful about. We know, pick
Speaker 1: and choose when you're gonna run. But like what you said,
Speaker 1: Mickey was talking about, you've got to take the football
Speaker 1: at these guys. I make Von Miller play backwards. You know,
Speaker 1: I've seen him die. I see him in the San
Speaker 1: Diego game retreat. You know he does not want to
Speaker 1: take on and offensive tackles face to face a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's that's he's a he's a backup
Speaker 1: and then you know, let somebody else. That's why they
Speaker 1: got those defensive ends. They added some bulk to their
Speaker 1: defensive ends so they could play the run better. They
Speaker 1: were twenty eighth in the league last year in run defense.
Speaker 1: So you have got to hammer Vaughan Miller every chance
Speaker 1: you can take to hit him, hit him, slow him up,
Speaker 1: whatever you have. See more of that, Chase Green pulling
Speaker 1: to the right. Yeah, whatever you have to do to
Speaker 1: beat him up, beat him up. Yeah. No, I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You're talking about these defensive ends and
Speaker 1: you have one two bra And why don't you tell
Speaker 1: us about yours, mister Derrick Wolfe. Yeah, Derek Wolfe is
Speaker 1: And I mentioned about Derek Wolfe and Jared crick are
Speaker 1: the two crick didn't play last week in this game.
Speaker 1: But Jared Wolfe is a guy. When the Broncos got him,
Speaker 1: he was a slender built defensive end, probably at two
Speaker 1: eighty five. Well, they've bulked him up. They've average added
Speaker 1: twenty thirty pounds to his frame. He doesn't look as quick,
Speaker 1: but he plays as a head up defensive end. He's
Speaker 1: he's lightly you know, you'll see him what they call
Speaker 1: five technique, so he'll be up over the top of
Speaker 1: the tackles right there. So get ready for some of
Speaker 1: those battles. He's a much better run player that he
Speaker 1: used to be able to rush the passer. Now he's
Speaker 1: more of a kind of a guy that's hard to
Speaker 1: move in there, slide down inside. If you run the
Speaker 1: ball inside, he's not gonna let you do that, you know.
Speaker 1: But he's a he's a protector of Miller and these
Speaker 1: outside linebackers because he can hold up at the edge.
Speaker 1: But they had to bulk him up. And he's looks
Speaker 1: way heavier than he than he has and and and
Speaker 1: so I think Dallas is catching these guys really at
Speaker 1: the right time, especially him, because you look at he's
Speaker 1: trying to learn how to play with the extra weight.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not as quick and as fast and
Speaker 1: getting off the football, and I think that's going to
Speaker 1: play the Cowboys advantage. But what I has seen is
Speaker 1: the power at the point, extend the hands, get off blocks.
Speaker 1: Can't allow him just to control. If you're gonna run
Speaker 1: the football, We're gonna run it at Miller. But you
Speaker 1: can't allow these Bronco defensive ends to control the game
Speaker 1: inside if you're going to continue to do that. And
Speaker 1: they have another inside guy because Rick has been hurt. Right,
Speaker 1: he didn't play. Uh, they started Shelby Harris, right, but
Speaker 1: off the bench comes not a Texan, not an Australian.
Speaker 1: Adam Gotsis. Yes, ended up playing thirty one plays at
Speaker 1: the defensive end spot in their three four right alignment.
Speaker 1: Ended up with five tackles in thirty one plays. That's
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. And he's only a second year player.
Speaker 1: So he's a guy I just thought, interesting story. He
Speaker 1: played eight years of Australian rules football. Guy for the
Speaker 1: Monash Warriors, by the way, not the Sydney Swans. He's
Speaker 1: from Melbourne, so keep an eye on this guy. He's
Speaker 1: Awthorne Hawks. And as Brian said, they were trying to
Speaker 1: add some bulk now. Replacing Krick was Shelby Harris, right,
Speaker 1: and he was on our practice squad here he was, Yes,
Speaker 1: I thought that name week sixteen seventeen, so he was
Speaker 1: through in the playoffs and he was the guy that
Speaker 1: blocked the field goal at the end, I believe, yes,
Speaker 1: But Delby Harris, both of those guys got Street free agent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they both got penetration and got up in the air
Speaker 1: and he was able to block the Black the field
Speaker 1: goal that would have tied the game, sent it into overtime. Right,
Speaker 1: was a three point game, three point game point So
Speaker 1: keep yeah, keep an eye on these guys inside because
Speaker 1: go back. Cowboys need to run the football. That's part
Speaker 1: of what they do. And the Chargers only got sixty
Speaker 1: four yards rushing, so the Cowboys need to be able
Speaker 1: to move those guys. Now when they go to their
Speaker 1: four man line in nickel, you know, some of those big,
Speaker 1: bulky guys come out. And that that's when I said
Speaker 1: they had Shaquille Barrett as the other outside body taken
Speaker 1: over taking over force guy named Sean Shane Ray Right,
Speaker 1: we know, well right mass ye right, Yeah, he heard himself.
Speaker 1: So that that so I don't know how good beartt is.
Speaker 1: That gives the Cowboys a break because now that you
Speaker 1: don't have the bookend guys, because with Ray and uh
Speaker 1: von Miller coming, you got your hands full where being
Speaker 1: gone there where as he was he was, I mean
Speaker 1: he was the guy that took over for where when
Speaker 1: he went when he left. So um, yeah, that that
Speaker 1: defensive fronts pretty significant. So the Cowboys have to do
Speaker 1: a good job run blocking, uh, take care of these guys.
Speaker 1: Send the Australian back to Australian football. You know, a
Speaker 1: great story though, I like hearing about that. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm gonna play that the Giants defense. I
Speaker 1: feel like watching them play is better than what the
Speaker 1: Broncos played with it. That makes me feel a lot
Speaker 1: better after what we did to Cowboys second I did.
Speaker 1: But no, I feel like though that if you look overall,
Speaker 1: you know that now of course they've got von Miller
Speaker 1: that there's no doubt. I mean, that's that's one player.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you could find a way, if you
Speaker 1: get if you continue to get what we've seen from
Speaker 1: Collins on the rise, you know, I think that You've
Speaker 1: got to find a way. Mickey said it, run the football,
Speaker 1: be successful at it. This team is still trying to
Speaker 1: find their way a play and that I know the Chargers.
Speaker 1: See the Chargers got behind in this game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: once you get behind, then you make them a one
Speaker 1: dimensional football team. And they weren't able to do the things.
Speaker 1: Dallas has got to stay on schedule and make this
Speaker 1: Denver defense have to be physical down after down after
Speaker 1: down and take advantage of your offensive line. Beat up
Speaker 1: on these guys when you can. You buy into the
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Speaker 1: from our break, we'll discuss Rob's question and we will
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Speaker 1: way to bring us back in excited. And before we
Speaker 1: get to your question about high altitude, because these guys
Speaker 1: have been simmering on that thought, Nick, why don't you
Speaker 1: update us on some player availability and what coach Garrett
Speaker 1: had to say earlier this morning. Well, they're going to
Speaker 1: continue to say that Orlando scared Scandrick's day to day
Speaker 1: after he had his surgery to fix the fracture in
Speaker 1: his hand. But I would imagine he misses today today,
Speaker 1: he's going to miss this week. I can't imagine he's
Speaker 1: going to even try to practice I think at the
Speaker 1: earliest next week. So that'll open up a roster spot
Speaker 1: for another corner. And it looks like Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to being ready. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he has a role on the defense, but maybe
Speaker 1: special teams, so that would certainly help out. And I
Speaker 1: think the other guys that were kind of left the
Speaker 1: game or temporarily or limped around, Bryce Butler, Terrence Williams,
Speaker 1: Cheeta Awoozier, I think those guys, they may be limited
Speaker 1: him practice, but I think that they end up playing
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I don't think anybody has suffered anything significant
Speaker 1: enough to keep him out. So from an injury standpoint,
Speaker 1: that's good. You know, you hate to lose Scandrick obviously,
Speaker 1: but Anthony Brown and Woozier got a step up. Let's
Speaker 1: Sam step up. You're talking about a Woozier played college
Speaker 1: football at the University of Colorado, decided to go back
Speaker 1: to Colorado, and it gets us into your question, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine with the outside. Yeah, it'll be okay, right,
Speaker 1: But what about it was a fair question. I thought
Speaker 1: that Archer asked Jason Garrett a few minutes ago about
Speaker 1: particularly the running game. Was Zeke sixty plays? He played
Speaker 1: sixty out of seventy four offensive plays, had a bunch
Speaker 1: of carries twenty something carries. Do you guys buy into
Speaker 1: the altitude and maybe having to watch Zeke in terms
Speaker 1: of his workload because of the change up there in
Speaker 1: the thinner air one of those one of those deals
Speaker 1: is that it's in that book of questions. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: comes up every eight years now every time they play
Speaker 1: in Denver. But it's a fair question. No, it is. No,
Speaker 1: but it's not like you're going it's not like you're
Speaker 1: going into the mountains and going ski at nine thousand feet.
Speaker 1: I think it's worse, You're right. I think it's worse
Speaker 1: for teams that are like in the NBA when they
Speaker 1: come off a back to back, when they make you
Speaker 1: play in Utah the night before, which is hard enough
Speaker 1: as it is, and then turn around and play in
Speaker 1: Denver the next night. I think that's I think the
Speaker 1: key word here for Garrett was hydrate. Yes, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: we all know that nobody in life really hydrates enough.
Speaker 1: And I'm I think we're all guilty of you know,
Speaker 1: we just say hydrate and we don't. They try to yas,
Speaker 1: that's a soda that he's drinking, not water. It is
Speaker 1: not Oh it is water. Fool everybody, doctor. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, though, I think that. To me, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things I know from experience. We played a game,
Speaker 1: a college game one time in Wyoming, and Wyoming is
Speaker 1: like eight thousand feet nine thousand feet. You do notice it,
Speaker 1: you really really do. But if you're kicking somebody's ass,
Speaker 1: you don't notice it. You know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: you're running the football and you know it's out. Altitude
Speaker 1: is only an excuse when you're getting beat. You know,
Speaker 1: you using locker room exactly. You go out there, you play.
Speaker 1: Are your players better than their players? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 1: So I thing in Mexico there exactly the same of Denver.
Speaker 1: Actually some parts are a little bit higher. Obviously. I
Speaker 1: know most people know this mile high city. It's because
Speaker 1: of the mile high altitude Denver. I mean, Denver is
Speaker 1: a great city. All that stuff. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate, Because
Speaker 1: you're talking about losing. Plenty of teams and I'm not
Speaker 1: putting down on New Mexico have come into played a
Speaker 1: three hour college football game and come out on the
Speaker 1: winning side, one of those being Kellen Moore, Chris Butler,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who were in the Mountain West.
Speaker 1: It does not affect you at all unless you're losing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if your team is bad, altitude sucks. It's really in
Speaker 1: your head. It's I think it's the same thing as
Speaker 1: playing on Thanksgiving here. When the Cowboys were good, they
Speaker 1: want on Thanksgiving. When they weren't good, they didn't win
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. Right, all the teams coming in, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this advantage, unfair advantage. We got to travel on a
Speaker 1: short week. Yeah, well, all right, go ahead. But the
Speaker 1: Cowboys when they were bad, they lost them. If you're running,
Speaker 1: if you're doing a triathlon this weekend and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be out at Denver, definitely affect good luck. But I
Speaker 1: think for certain players, I think you see a lot
Speaker 1: of times with the Dez he wears that mask where
Speaker 1: it has the oxygen. They understand they need to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be a couple of guys who
Speaker 1: are doing that pregame. Yeah, well that's you're right, and
Speaker 1: coach said at the you know, Colorado Springs is where
Speaker 1: the Olympic Training Center is high altitude trainings. They talk
Speaker 1: about Kenyons as being some of the best distance runners
Speaker 1: in the worldwide because they live in a high altitude environment.
Speaker 1: But I've my experience of only of playing in altitude conditions.
Speaker 1: When our team wasn't better, we lost and it didn't
Speaker 1: matter we were playing in New Orleans below sea level
Speaker 1: or in Denver, Colorado with it over a mile high.
Speaker 1: If your team is good, you find ways to win.
Speaker 1: But let's get back to what you're saying about Zigelia.
Speaker 1: You know, how is he going to do in this game?
Speaker 1: The Chargers have Melvin Gordon. They don't have this offensive
Speaker 1: line though, take exactly. But what I mean, yeah, the
Speaker 1: physical side of the running game I think is important here.
Speaker 1: The tight ends they're willing to you know, the what
Speaker 1: did the Chargers do. They drafted two three guys last
Speaker 1: year to play on the offensive line, and none of
Speaker 1: those kids they all got hurt in training camp. I mean,
Speaker 1: they tried to remake their offensive line, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it as well. If you get behind against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: It plays right into what they would Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: you find Yeah, you find a way to you find
Speaker 1: a way to make it an even game. I will
Speaker 1: take my chances with Dak Prescott playing against Simeon, I'll
Speaker 1: take my chances all day. I will take my chances
Speaker 1: that that that the Tyrant Smith and Lyle Collins can
Speaker 1: block one of the best path rushers in the National
Speaker 1: Football because I have one of the best left tackles
Speaker 1: in the National Football League playing there, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to that's my neutral That's how I'm going to neutralize him.
Speaker 1: Would you limit Zeke? Would you what do you mean? No,
Speaker 1: I'm knocking to Rob. How would you limit Zeke this week?
Speaker 1: Or how would you play? What? Limit? Number of cars?
Speaker 1: I mean? Would you know he got how many touches
Speaker 1: did he get? Yeah? He had five catches? Why he had?
Speaker 1: He almost thirty touches in the game. That's a lot,
Speaker 1: I mean, especially for a guy that he you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a lot of preseason work. He's been
Speaker 1: going through a lot of stuff off the field, but
Speaker 1: obviously he was ready to go sixty snaps. I would
Speaker 1: just I would play him. I would just play him
Speaker 1: as you normally would and bank on him being a
Speaker 1: pro and being ready in terms of conditioning and because
Speaker 1: you're gonna need him in this game, Brian, Brian's right.
Speaker 1: The one advantage I think you do have is that
Speaker 1: offensive line and be able to run the ball against
Speaker 1: a three four defense, which really they've shown cracks the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. If there's one weakness that's been
Speaker 1: that one. How was that confusing, did you, Mickey? Because
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would limit him and not
Speaker 1: limit somebody else. He was talking about the high altitude
Speaker 1: of it. No, no, but I'm saying everybody else is
Speaker 1: playing in high altitude. You know, maybe we can go
Speaker 1: to UFC and train in that little room. Yeah, talking
Speaker 1: about you give him the ball down after down it weary,
Speaker 1: You do get it? Okay, let's move on. Let's move
Speaker 1: on Zeke. Now, who will be the undercover weapon? We
Speaker 1: talked about Dez Bryant, but receivers this week Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: got some of the action. Terrence Williams. Mickey told you guys,
Speaker 1: he's going to be limited today. Will he be able
Speaker 1: to have the same production as he did in Week one?
Speaker 1: Fair question? It is I think somebody's got it. You've
Speaker 1: got to find somebody to step up in this game.
Speaker 1: I mean you really, really really do. If running the football,
Speaker 1: I think it's all about balance, but you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make some plays in the passing game as well.
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from Terrence Williams, I really
Speaker 1: really do. And I think the player that you attack
Speaker 1: for the Broncos is Robie the nickel corner. I think
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna yeah, they're gonna kick. You know,
Speaker 1: they're gonna kick U Harris inside on the slot. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be you know, you might lose Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: there for a little bit, but that's okay. But somebody
Speaker 1: else has got to win. We talked about Bryce Butler.
Speaker 1: Gotta finish. He had one one big play, three targets,
Speaker 1: had a couple other opportunities. Got to be better than that.
Speaker 1: You know, Bryce, We're gonna talk about him, brag on
Speaker 1: you and get you to this level and say, hey,
Speaker 1: he's good, he's good to go, he's gonna make plays,
Speaker 1: he's a finisher. We'll go finish. So if the ball
Speaker 1: comes your direction, go finish. So but they're gonna need
Speaker 1: and I like Williams. I do like Terrence Williams in
Speaker 1: these types of games, even though he might be a
Speaker 1: little bit banged up. Him running routes. Yeah, him running routes,
Speaker 1: he finds a way to find space. And that's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do in this game. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to find space, but you're gonna have to find
Speaker 1: it quickly. See. The other thing that I think affects
Speaker 1: when you play at three four defense is they've got
Speaker 1: to cover the Cowboys tight ends. So you can't just
Speaker 1: be thinking, Okay, these guys are all pass rushers. You know,
Speaker 1: if you line up Witten to von Miller's side, you
Speaker 1: know what's he doing right, because is the safety coming
Speaker 1: in and covering Witten? And if that's the case, then
Speaker 1: they're not double team in Dez. You know he gets
Speaker 1: single coverage. So those three four guys, now, you know,
Speaker 1: make them play your tight ends underneath and you can nibble, nibble, nibble,
Speaker 1: and they'll have to change what they do and not
Speaker 1: be as aggressive in the pass rush. But again, if
Speaker 1: you're in Nickel, they're going to go to a four
Speaker 1: man line right just like everybody else does, and balance
Speaker 1: them up and yeah, so to me keep an eye
Speaker 1: on the defense, the tight ends underneath forced those inside
Speaker 1: linebackers to have to play pass coverage. How did you
Speaker 1: think that James Hannah did in his first game back. Well,
Speaker 1: the offense did pretty well, so I thought they did
Speaker 1: a good job of going two tights helping out their outside, uh,
Speaker 1: their tackles on the outside. And I don't think the Giant,
Speaker 1: you know, JPP was a load, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he ruined the games. No, yeah, Olivier Vernon didn't ruin
Speaker 1: the game, right, So they controlled those guys. They got
Speaker 1: to do that again. Yeah, this is gonna be. They
Speaker 1: got in thirteen personnel in the last game ten times,
Speaker 1: and seven times it was on first down. I mean
Speaker 1: it might be some more thinking about Okay, let's load
Speaker 1: up and again, like we're talking about, make von Miller
Speaker 1: and these outside linebackers have to play, make the inside
Speaker 1: linebackers run his point about the tight ends. This is
Speaker 1: one of those games where you get Jeff Swain going.
Speaker 1: I mean, Hannah had some productive catches in the preseason.
Speaker 1: We saw him in some practices actually do pretty well
Speaker 1: when they were doing the compete drill one on one.
Speaker 1: He has the capability of getting open. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of him getting open. But this is the type
Speaker 1: of game that maybe that Witton Swain those guys can
Speaker 1: kind of help you a little bit. It looked like
Speaker 1: to me watching the Los Angeles Charger game a little
Speaker 1: bit they had problems. The Broncos have problems covering backs
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. There were a couple of times
Speaker 1: where Gordon was i'd open, they just couldn't get the
Speaker 1: ball to him in the flat. So you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of space. I mean, one time he throws out
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and he just looked like Rivers wanted to
Speaker 1: cry afterwards because there was so much space on the outside.
Speaker 1: But you know, they were able to make some loose
Speaker 1: plays that maybe we're talking about Zeke get him going
Speaker 1: a little bit in this passing game. Throwing a football
Speaker 1: five catches in the game the other night. That's actually
Speaker 1: a career high for him. And we talked all offseason
Speaker 1: training camp about maybe Zeke can increase his touches without
Speaker 1: being a load, you know, overworking him in the running
Speaker 1: game because of the passing game. Took a thirty yard
Speaker 1: swing pass down the field and we saw what he
Speaker 1: did in Pittsburgh. He can be kind of that blitz
Speaker 1: buster for you. At times, the screen has been their
Speaker 1: blitz busters. Yes, that's that'd be important against a team
Speaker 1: like the Giants and Denver two possible, And they tried
Speaker 1: running the screen a couple of times. The one time
Speaker 1: they tried to fake it and Dez didn't run his route,
Speaker 1: confusion there was sure because that's where that's where that's
Speaker 1: that's where Dak was looking. That's defeated. It's like I
Speaker 1: didn't run the he just kind of still well the
Speaker 1: one third down and twelve play they were able to make.
Speaker 1: They threw the screen to beat the slot or the
Speaker 1: safety blitz or corner blitz, and it got Williams out
Speaker 1: the gate. Now, if they got that one block, they scored.
Speaker 1: So we've seen a priests in the training camp. That's
Speaker 1: how they've used to beat teams that will blitz. They
Speaker 1: will use that screen to their advantage. Hey, I like you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the way they're running a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: Like they went three tights, but they still threw the ball.
Speaker 1: Third team personnel right, they went two wide receivers in
Speaker 1: a tight end. I think it was to the right
Speaker 1: side and they threw the bubble screen to Terrence Williams.
Speaker 1: So not let thing teams think, Okay, here's how they're
Speaker 1: lined up. This is what they do, no kind of
Speaker 1: change it up. And I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 1: Lenahanna did a good job of not letting teams anticipate
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do just because that's how you lined up. Hey,
Speaker 1: I like hearing all this. We have a Twitter question,
Speaker 1: and you guys can still call us the numbers two, one, four,
Speaker 1: eight seven into twenty one or two call us Kent.
Speaker 1: We'll get those calls. But we do have a Twitter
Speaker 1: question people asking you know, I think Mickey did a
Speaker 1: good point about bringing up the tight ends, but could
Speaker 1: someone like rod Smith have an impact in this game
Speaker 1: just a carry standpoint, Look at you increases carries, That's
Speaker 1: what they're asking him. They don't. They So what people
Speaker 1: would like is they don't either McFadden or Morris. They
Speaker 1: want to go away from that and just go with
Speaker 1: the physical game of rod Smith play physical play. No, no, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And he actually got the three snaps three or four
Speaker 1: snaps on offense that I saw, But they put him
Speaker 1: in there more on a third down than they did
Speaker 1: playing as any other down. So yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I just I'm to the point where I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: loading the wagon up on Zeke. I'm just gonna load
Speaker 1: the wagon and I'm gonna keep and I'm gonna run
Speaker 1: him and I'm gonna I'm gonna hopefully the oxen will
Speaker 1: make it across the river before we all drowned. But
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna load him up and i'm gonna make I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make Denver second dairy and their linebackers have to
Speaker 1: cover or tackle him down after down after down after down.
Speaker 1: If you want to come a guy with down in
Speaker 1: the in the box with the safety and try and
Speaker 1: play that way and play that extra guy, fine, but
Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt you on the back end somewhere. So
Speaker 1: I'm loading the wagon Smith. Yeah, it makes sense. We
Speaker 1: saw him physically finished games. But I'm going with it.
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm danced with the guy danced, you know with,
Speaker 1: and it brought me. And you're gonna make sure he
Speaker 1: doesn't go into those shops with have the Red Cross
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, Yeah, Okay, that's your job. Mickey, you're
Speaker 1: green cross Mickey Green Okay, hold his hands cross on
Speaker 1: my mind? Yeah yeah, Kenat knew what color the cross was. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a different shape between that in a hospital,
Speaker 1: because there can be some bad things can happen on
Speaker 1: how you look at it. Oh, they're both medicinal. Okay, Nicky,
Speaker 1: aren't they you crazy? You tell us? Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you think they? Or we have a caller on the line,
Speaker 1: Mark in New York. What is your question? Hey guys,
Speaker 1: this is Mark from Staton Island. But actually I moved
Speaker 1: to Florida, so we're just is that a good move
Speaker 1: or a bad move? This week? Nick, let me tell
Speaker 1: you we just got power back yesterday. It's really my
Speaker 1: first experience, and it was pretty darn thing, you know,
Speaker 1: thinking this thing was one hundred miles away because I'm
Speaker 1: on the East coast and looking at just hearing the
Speaker 1: hurricane shutters rattle, you know, and you can't see, and
Speaker 1: it's dark. It's just really intimidating. So but thank god
Speaker 1: everything is okay. And yeah, and we got a power
Speaker 1: back yesterday, So today's a catch up day. So I
Speaker 1: couldn't watch my boys against the Giants, But I'm looking
Speaker 1: for replays. I just haven't had the time to sit
Speaker 1: down and watch it. Obviously we've been busy with other things.
Speaker 1: But from what near as I could tell, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I call about several issues. But Rod Marinelli, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if this man had you know, four
Speaker 1: or five good to great players. I mean, what he
Speaker 1: does with the personnel he has, to me is unconstable.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it. Your thoughts. He
Speaker 1: gets every ounce of out of the town he has.
Speaker 1: There's no question he likes his orphans. He does. And
Speaker 1: your next one, Mark, I think that he lost him.
Speaker 1: We lost him. How is it? Well, Mark's safe? Mark
Speaker 1: for sure? Yeah? No, yeah, And you know Marinelli, it's funny.
Speaker 1: He he likes to call those guys the orphans, but
Speaker 1: he has a lot of He has a big hand
Speaker 1: in getting the orphans here. You know, he's the one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's many scouting meetings that
Speaker 1: they have where they don't ask him his opinion of
Speaker 1: who would you like to select? So before you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful of calling him the orphans because
Speaker 1: he that's his guys, you know, And and he's done
Speaker 1: a great job, and yeah, absolutely would you love to
Speaker 1: have Simeon Rice and Looger McFarland and Sap and John
Speaker 1: Lynch and Brooks and Ronde Barber. Heck, yes, he has
Speaker 1: had some of those guys. Yeah, yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: that to me, I'm interested to see how this defense
Speaker 1: now will play with it when you start getting Lewis
Speaker 1: back a woozier going a little bit, Scandrick healthy, if
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown can continue to do what he's gonna do
Speaker 1: and Nolan Carroll doesn't screw things up, you know, and
Speaker 1: the safety play we got some young safeties too. I
Speaker 1: think if he gets I think if he gets that
Speaker 1: secondary go and then we're going to see a better front.
Speaker 1: And you know, those are guys that I can say
Speaker 1: that he had a he had a hand in. Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll didn't miss a snap the other night. Yeah you're
Speaker 1: surprised by that. No, he's a veteran guy. And you
Speaker 1: know what, Demarius Thomas will be a good matchup for
Speaker 1: him this week. Hey, because Thomas doesn't run great. After
Speaker 1: you lost Scandrick, I mean kind of forced to Yeah,
Speaker 1: well more anti Brown. Anthony Brown was the one that
Speaker 1: had to take up the share of the word saying,
Speaker 1: so Carol had I mean he had to Carroll's your
Speaker 1: starter anyway, He's gonna play nickel, He's gonna play all
Speaker 1: all packages. So yeah, the one the guy that was
Speaker 1: amazing was Anthony Brown. The fact that he went in
Speaker 1: the slot and played thirty five times. And I know
Speaker 1: it wasn't Odell Beckham, but still Shepherds. Still, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And by the way he told us yesterday too, wasn't
Speaker 1: just college. He never played slot in high school. He's
Speaker 1: been an outside corner his entire life. And a year
Speaker 1: ago he gets out there on the Ox and Ard
Speaker 1: fields and they're like, oh, go play inside, and he
Speaker 1: had done it, and he's really impressed the coaching staff. Hey,
Speaker 1: hats off too. Yeah, we're gonna take our final break
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Speaker 1: fans today, and we talked a lot about this, guys
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys offense are gonna have to account for
Speaker 1: when they go to Denver. Chris Harris junior a keep
Speaker 1: to leap two of the cornerbacks, elite cornerbacks in this league.
Speaker 1: Or von Miller. Who's the biggest challenge Sunday Surprise, surprise, Yeah,
Speaker 1: von Miller was a one. Our fans are getting smarter
Speaker 1: and smart smart. I don't know though, But think about this.
Speaker 1: It's actually it's actually a fair It's a very fair question.
Speaker 1: Where did Talib show up? Was he second? Well, of
Speaker 1: course at eighty percent? Make you do the math? Who
Speaker 1: was second? Shane Ray did say what the percentage was?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: I would have written in Shane Ray, who do you
Speaker 1: feel better? Okay, let's put it this way, whole question Okay,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith verse Tyren Smith and Collins verse Von Miller
Speaker 1: one U Talib Akim Talib against des Bryant or Harris first,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley? Who do you feel? Who do you feel
Speaker 1: I can really take you out? That's kind of where
Speaker 1: I was going initially. That's a better Oh wow, think
Speaker 1: about that, think about them, you think about the matchups.
Speaker 1: Who gives you the best chance to win the matchup? Well?
Speaker 1: I think Tyron he neutralizes Miller. I want to see that.
Speaker 1: But like you said, they may just put him on
Speaker 1: the coins Collins, Colin. You don't trust Collins at all? Day?
Speaker 1: Do you trust him? No? I think he's getting better
Speaker 1: and better. He is two weeks into his job. Did
Speaker 1: a nice job against Mac. He did JPP a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. He's been pretty good. I see where you're
Speaker 1: going with Oh, you surely see where I'm going with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gave the fans a little credit. No, they're not
Speaker 1: thinking because what are the matchups that you can possibly win.
Speaker 1: You can win the Tyron Smith matchup. You can win
Speaker 1: Chris Harris Junior you can win, well, he hits in
Speaker 1: the slot against Beasley, you can potentially win that. Like
Speaker 1: Beasley has the upper hand, and that Bryant and Bryant
Speaker 1: first to leap. And I wouldn't underestimate Collins if especially
Speaker 1: if they can give him some ship help at times,
Speaker 1: which I would imagine they would do. Only think Brian
Speaker 1: could beat till. I'm just saying, which one do you? Now?
Speaker 1: Now put that poll up? Which one do you feel
Speaker 1: the worst about? What's the worst matchup you feel about?
Speaker 1: There you go, there's your Paul for tomorrow. There we go.
Speaker 1: Nobody's answered my question a head, so I'm kind of thinking, thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: I take a little faster. This show's only fifty more
Speaker 1: minutes long. I feel more confident in Colby's the out
Speaker 1: of all three of those. I think Cole Beasley and
Speaker 1: Chris Jarris Junior is going to be You're gonna not
Speaker 1: even worry about that wash. I think not wash, But
Speaker 1: I think that's your most confident in Cole Beasley outmatching
Speaker 1: Chris Harris Junior. Okay, now I know what you're saying
Speaker 1: about Tyrn Smith and Lyle Collins, and yes, Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: has proved himself against JPP and Mac. But okay, yeah, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Cowboys tackles. Cowboys tackles first, First Miller. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm still going von Miller because he's still arguably the
Speaker 1: pound for pound, the best player in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: don't care who you have, and you have good personnel,
Speaker 1: but it's still one of the best left tackles in
Speaker 1: the league. You do, but it's still it's still a
Speaker 1: concern because he's gonna move around, he's gonna line up
Speaker 1: in different spots, and he's gonna make up play it promised.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna chip him. Mickey told me he's gonna
Speaker 1: play with more tight ends. So I just told you
Speaker 1: about to play in preseason where he sat Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: when they try to chip him and he just spun
Speaker 1: the other way and before Rogers knew what he was
Speaker 1: on the back. Let me ask you two questions and
Speaker 1: just whatever you think at the top of yard. Do
Speaker 1: you think Dez brand is one of the best wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: top ten. Top ten. Where do you rank a Keeb
Speaker 1: to leave in corners? That's what I'm saying now, you're
Speaker 1: probably top talking about one of the top ten corners
Speaker 1: in the league. Will they trust a Keeb to lead
Speaker 1: to cover des one on one or is that safety
Speaker 1: hovering over in the way doing double team? I think that, Mickey,
Speaker 1: We've got to figure out a way to stop the
Speaker 1: running game for the Cowboys. We better have a safety
Speaker 1: playing down. Okay, one's down and one's on Daz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did somebody else Beasley and they're outside linebackers, were
Speaker 1: they because you saw what the Giants started doing with
Speaker 1: their one linebacker right he was kind of cutting off
Speaker 1: their slam route. Yeah, and they and so through behind
Speaker 1: him one time, right because the linebacker kind of came
Speaker 1: in a little bit more. And so that's one of
Speaker 1: the things that I kind of goes unnoticed, Like Generis
Speaker 1: Jenkins gets credit for one on one coverage while on
Speaker 1: some of those deep ones, yeah he was in one
Speaker 1: on one, but a lot of times they eliminate the
Speaker 1: slant by how they line up, and so Dez is
Speaker 1: his alternative is Okay, I gotta go down the field.
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see how they play that.
Speaker 1: I would love to see just des one on one
Speaker 1: the whole time with a cornerback. Do you have an
Speaker 1: answer feel worse about with those three matchups? I think
Speaker 1: he feels worse about to leave covering Dez. I do
Speaker 1: he thinks he can take him out of the game.
Speaker 1: I do, and frustrate him. And that's what you know,
Speaker 1: that's what's happened. We all love Dez. Yeah, but question
Speaker 1: But if you're being but if you're being realistic, what
Speaker 1: is the one thing that you you know because you
Speaker 1: feel I feel like that Tyren Smith or Collins can
Speaker 1: handle Miller. I really do. I worry about Collins for
Speaker 1: the whole game. If that's the side they choose to
Speaker 1: put him on the entire game. You know what I
Speaker 1: do with him, I put a tight into his side
Speaker 1: and make him, make him line up at least wider.
Speaker 1: I him line up wider. I have confidence in which
Speaker 1: I really do. By the yeah, make him, make him,
Speaker 1: make him play a whole man removed because a couple
Speaker 1: of times I thought, I'm sorry, I thought Olivier Vernon
Speaker 1: was a linebacker. They had him so far outside. Absolutely
Speaker 1: make him. Don't don't let him have a path to
Speaker 1: the quarterback. They about wanted him to have a three
Speaker 1: step run at at at Tyrant. There's just always a
Speaker 1: chance over sixty plays, he's gonna wreck something. You know,
Speaker 1: Von He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna put your quarterback
Speaker 1: on the ground. He's gonna cause a fumble, He's gonna
Speaker 1: do something. Somebody just somebody just tweeted there while you're
Speaker 1: talking about this, there's much talk this Paul Williams. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he lives in the Denver area, but
Speaker 1: he says much talk on Denver radio that Von Miller
Speaker 1: has had zero sacks in the last five games. So
Speaker 1: what we double team Obviously they're talking about regular season games. Yeah, yeah, See,
Speaker 1: this is the thing about with von Miller though, and
Speaker 1: we talked about home. It's a huge advantage for the
Speaker 1: Broncos to play the when they play at home, they
Speaker 1: have a great, one of the best home field advantages,
Speaker 1: and if you get behind them, it gets even better.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what it is. It's about because
Speaker 1: it's loud. It is loud. It's like going to Minnesota
Speaker 1: for a playoff game in two thousand and nine when
Speaker 1: you know the Cowboys offensive line couldn't get off the
Speaker 1: dining line of scrimmage because they couldn't hear, and the
Speaker 1: defense is just running right by them. Don't think, don't
Speaker 1: think Von Miller will not be jacked up for this game.
Speaker 1: I would give I would give the Cowboys the advantage
Speaker 1: in this though, because these guys they beat lambeau Field
Speaker 1: last year and they beat Pittsburgh. Absolutely. The running game
Speaker 1: travels and hopefully, well that's that, and Pilot running the
Speaker 1: running game controls von Miller. That's how that works. Okay,
Speaker 1: von Miller is just the link right here, but we
Speaker 1: do have a caller who is also our link. Gordon,
Speaker 1: give us your question. What's going on. You guys do
Speaker 1: an awesome job. Thanks for taking my call on two things.
Speaker 1: One is not what you do, is what you're doing't do.
Speaker 1: And the fact that Des didn't get frustrated like Brian
Speaker 1: would say Tornado, Des didn't didn't show up that helped
Speaker 1: us side. I think these guys are really buying into
Speaker 1: what's going on over there. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: you would have seen Dez flipping out on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: yelling his green man, talking to the referee. The fact
Speaker 1: that he gets right back, he goes back out there
Speaker 1: again because he asked, was opened a couple of times,
Speaker 1: got held a couple of times, and asked the bad
Speaker 1: passes thrown to him. But the fact that he wasn't
Speaker 1: a distraction really helped his team on the lot. Also, Brian,
Speaker 1: you do a wonderful job. I have a quick question
Speaker 1: for you. I went to that green Bay game and
Speaker 1: number eighty eight for green Bay started off as a
Speaker 1: running back and slammed it over. Yes, they took Shawan
Speaker 1: Lee out of that game so many times. Every time
Speaker 1: he was sliding over, Shawn Lee would move and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there like and I see him get caught up,
Speaker 1: So I want to know what you feel about that,
Speaker 1: and you guys do awesome job based to take up
Speaker 1: a call. Thank you good questions shun Lee by movement
Speaker 1: right is what he's asking. Did they change his number? No,
Speaker 1: it's still eighty eight. How do they get away with that?
Speaker 1: Because he was there starting running back again now he's
Speaker 1: he came in the league. He came in the league
Speaker 1: with number eighty eight, and that's without that's how they
Speaker 1: get away with it. Yeah, not a big deal. Packers
Speaker 1: and packers to cheat, No, but but that's but that's
Speaker 1: part of that. That's part of understanding though, that's part
Speaker 1: of understanding. You know, when you go into a game
Speaker 1: personnel and what teams like to do, you know, and
Speaker 1: that that you know, if you could get somebody out
Speaker 1: of the way. I broke it down on film on
Speaker 1: the interception Brown. The Giants tried to get Brown to
Speaker 1: stretch on the outside to h with Shepherd to go
Speaker 1: wider and so they could throw the ball behind. But
Speaker 1: he didn't do it. So sometimes by alignment, you can
Speaker 1: get people to do things just by maybe flashing there
Speaker 1: at their eyes on the pick you're talking about right
Speaker 1: on the pick? Yeah, stay at home. Yeah, he stayed
Speaker 1: home instead of going, instead of widening with the flat route.
Speaker 1: Then they you know, he was able to make the interception.
Speaker 1: So the Giants went empty and they sent their running
Speaker 1: back out into the slot and Shaun Lee went and
Speaker 1: covered him. That's what you do. And what else Who's
Speaker 1: gonna Who's gonna go cover that guy, especially if you're
Speaker 1: in I mean, it's not like it's a faulty defensive
Speaker 1: alignment that Shaun Lee has to go cover the running back. Right. Hey,
Speaker 1: I like what you're saying. And you brought up earlier.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about Denver Front seven and how
Speaker 1: they compared to the Giants. Somebody says, Okay, if they
Speaker 1: do compare, how can we expect the same dirty runs
Speaker 1: from twenty one? Roger wants to know, how do you
Speaker 1: expect the same runs? Can we expect the same kind
Speaker 1: of dirty I think that I think with the Broncos
Speaker 1: and that than the three four, I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: have I think they're gonna have more success running in
Speaker 1: the football than they do against the Giants. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be dirty runs in this game. I
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys blocking these guys straight up, I really
Speaker 1: really do. It's again I keep saying this, if it
Speaker 1: turns into a passing game, then they're gonna probably take
Speaker 1: an ll you know, if it turns into that, that
Speaker 1: type of a thing. But if they could stay ahead
Speaker 1: of the change, I feel like they could block this
Speaker 1: three four front. You know, Pittsburgh three four front, difficult
Speaker 1: front able to run the football just inherently is a
Speaker 1: three four. It's easier to run on gaps, gaps, more gaps.
Speaker 1: The advantage is from a pass rushing standpoint is you
Speaker 1: don't know where that fourth or fifth rush the fifth rusher, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, against the run, there's you know, you could
Speaker 1: count it off and then if you do, you get
Speaker 1: hats on hats. But yeah, I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be dirty runs in this game. I think, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're not gonna be some tough runs, but
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I like the Cowboys chances to
Speaker 1: run the ball here. I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: San Diego wanted to run the ball. They popped a
Speaker 1: couple of runs, but their offensive line is not good enough.
Speaker 1: You gotta lean on this offensive line in this game.
Speaker 1: You want to take on Miller out of the game.
Speaker 1: Run the football, make him have to be a run
Speaker 1: defender the whole day where his ass out, and specially
Speaker 1: run it when you go three ye yes, because now
Speaker 1: he's a hand on the ground right pensive end, go
Speaker 1: right at him. They want to if they want to,
Speaker 1: if they want to get guys up the field, take
Speaker 1: advantage of that, if they want to get those outside linebackers,
Speaker 1: take advantage as if you notice one of the things
Speaker 1: that Cowboys were doing to see because the Giants started
Speaker 1: a lot of blitzing, they started going empty or they
Speaker 1: started going four wide, and so now you could see
Speaker 1: where the blitz is coming from. Because I had more
Speaker 1: guys to cover, you couldn't sneak a safety in, or
Speaker 1: you couldn't say, oh, I'm giving up my linebacker to
Speaker 1: go ahead and blitz and leave one guy uncovered, and
Speaker 1: it's up to DAC to be able to find them.
Speaker 1: So there's way to formation guys out of them at
Speaker 1: blitzing and not knowing where that extra rusher's coming from
Speaker 1: if they're in base. And I would wonder how many
Speaker 1: times the Cowboys actually lined up in base because they
Speaker 1: were a lot in three wide and two tight ends
Speaker 1: in that game. Again, it's the Giants. Now it's a
Speaker 1: different opponent. You know, when you were talking about the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and throwing the ball, does the L two never
Speaker 1: affect the quarterback because the ball sails out of him.
Speaker 1: I've heard people talk about then makes a different kicking game.
Speaker 1: And I don't know about a mile high if it
Speaker 1: affects the quarterbacks. Now, if you were playing at nine
Speaker 1: thousand feet, you know, in veiled Colorado or something, then
Speaker 1: it's a different story. Because I've played tennis in that
Speaker 1: and it's like, boy, I never served better in my
Speaker 1: entire life. If I get it over the net, are
Speaker 1: going to finally have our big tennis That's right this
Speaker 1: weekend in Colorado. Let's see that. The funny thing is
Speaker 1: is when you come back, you just feel like you're
Speaker 1: just serving like crazy. We're hitting golf balls way yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, gravity takes
Speaker 1: effect here back here at home. It's just not good
Speaker 1: for you. But another question from Twitter, how is Ryan
Speaker 1: Switzer going to implement this offense this week? Well, we
Speaker 1: need to see last week, you know, we thought maybe
Speaker 1: he would get involved. He was the jet sweep stuff
Speaker 1: that plays. Yeah, that the screen stuff. There was a
Speaker 1: couple of packages, empty packages. I heard they were looking
Speaker 1: at primer. I think until it's gonna be a game,
Speaker 1: game to game type of thing with him. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're expecting Ryan Ryan Switcher will make an impact
Speaker 1: on the kicking game before he'll make an impact I
Speaker 1: think as a receiver, Yeah, yeah, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to give you secure catch and then you know, hopefully,
Speaker 1: and it might not be this weekend because we were
Speaker 1: talking about the ball getting knocked out of the you know,
Speaker 1: the park, But yeah, I think he's gonna be. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be more as a as a returner than it
Speaker 1: is as an offensive player. From a depth perspective though,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's something to keep an eye on this
Speaker 1: week with Terrence. And then there's reports also that Bryce
Speaker 1: might be a little gimpy with the ankle this week too,
Speaker 1: in practice, so I mean they might have to call
Speaker 1: on him. Get some reps. Yeah you're ready? Oh or
Speaker 1: Brown Brown there's a name Mick for Friday's show and
Speaker 1: we'd start predicting the inactives. Now, everyone keeps talking about
Speaker 1: this home field advantage and we just said, you know,
Speaker 1: Dak and Zeke. Getting their big wins last year and
Speaker 1: being kind of a team. I just don't think that
Speaker 1: that really affects them anymore. As much as people like
Speaker 1: to talk about no I mean and both both played
Speaker 1: in the SEC. I mean, Dak Prescott was really good
Speaker 1: on the road. I remember games. You know, he's gone Georgia,
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge. I mean he's been some games once plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's playing some big games. Zeke of course, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that doesn't bother these guys this. You know, it's
Speaker 1: the noise that's the difference. It's not just being on
Speaker 1: the road. Yes, you know. And I forgot who said it.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was Dak last year. I can't remember who said.
Speaker 1: It's something about the home field advantage in a crazy crowd,
Speaker 1: and they said, yeah, it's fine unless they let him
Speaker 1: on the field, right. Yeah, I thought Minnesota was the
Speaker 1: loudest game. The Cowboys had a tough place to play. Yeah, tough,
Speaker 1: you're talking about it last year. But the way that
Speaker 1: they've made their new stadium, it's it gets very louder
Speaker 1: Stimber Scott, very passionate fans. And then two they helped
Speaker 1: their team. They know when to help their team. But
Speaker 1: you've got to take their their crowd out of this
Speaker 1: and successful play staying ahead of the chains. Right, you
Speaker 1: start running the ball five yards of pop, six yards
Speaker 1: of pop makes yeah, make Simeon have to play down
Speaker 1: for down, score for score with you, and you'll take
Speaker 1: a crowd out of a football game. And at least
Speaker 1: it's not a night game. Right, that's true and ready
Speaker 1: for the game. Right, And if they want to get
Speaker 1: their fans rilled up, show a shot of DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 1: because he will be honored at this weekend's game. Obviously
Speaker 1: warmly welcomed by both Cowboys fans. Mixed feelings about this
Speaker 1: whole thing. Mixed feelings, a little bit awkward you or
Speaker 1: him me about him being honored before this Denver, come on,
Speaker 1: is cheap, this is money. It's where I hate. This
Speaker 1: is where old man get off my lawn. Bitte's cutting
Speaker 1: me off. No finish, hurry up the lawn. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be in their ring of honor. It's time for Brian's minute.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. He's gonna be DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 1: and in the Denver Bronco Ring of Honor. Think about that.
Speaker 1: You want a super Bowl there? It's Okay, if I
Speaker 1: have him on the Legend show here, sure, why not.
Speaker 1: He's a legend right to work out the Dallas cow
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll run out the midfield, run out there. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys so much for another awesome episode of Talking Cowboys.
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