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Speaker 2: O la gadal. What's good everybody? This is the L

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Speaker 2: give a warm L Huddle. Welcome to James Rode Rodriguez,

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Speaker 2: a man.

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Speaker 3: Viva football, SI.

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Speaker 2: Movn And I see that you got your friend there

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Speaker 2: that's joining us on the podcast, but won't be saying much.

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Speaker 2: Really there he is.

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Speaker 3: And when I sit like this your bait, you'll just

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Speaker 3: get his butt.

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Speaker 4: So he got a little dog but to help brighten

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Speaker 4: your day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's his name?

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Speaker 3: That is Claude. He's a Frenchman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Claude. And and I know for you you've been

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Speaker 2: involved with your Road Dogs Foundation, which really is dedicated

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Speaker 2: to rehabbing and rescuing medical bulldogs and puppies with birth defects.

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Speaker 2: Why is that such an important cause for you?

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Speaker 3: I adopted the master if I had before Claude. His

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Speaker 4: He was also a fringeman from this amazing woman, Nikki,

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Speaker 4: who who started and runs road Dogs, and you know

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Speaker 4: her her mantra is at every you know, every dog,

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Speaker 4: not unlike every child you know, deserves deserves a shot at,

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Speaker 4: you know, some sort of life. And so she's basically

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Speaker 4: dedicated her work to you know, the puppies that nobody wants,

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Speaker 4: the seniors that get left behind, you know, the smashed

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Speaker 4: faces that have you know, medical you know disabilities that

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Speaker 4: And I just think it's it's just so moving that

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Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's not necessarily for the squeamish.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she has to, she has to endure a

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Speaker 3: Of loss doing what she does.

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Speaker 4: And I just have a ton of I just have

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Speaker 4: always be grateful to her because she gave me a

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Speaker 2: So yeah, was was Frock named after the character in

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Speaker 3: No, No. Frank was named Frankie when I adopted him. Ah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: he just didn't seem like a Frankie to me.

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Speaker 4: He was a little more dour and brooding and than

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Speaker 3: That's how that happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, right on, man, keep it up. I mean Road

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Speaker 2: You were born and raised in San Antonio, so inevitably

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Speaker 2: the question is, how in the hell did you become

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Speaker 4: Well, my entire family, the Mexican side, they're all in

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Speaker 4: you you know, you were given some sort of cowboy paraphernalia,

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Speaker 4: Started watching football very early on, I liked Earl Campbell.

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Speaker 3: But I really stuck to it.

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Speaker 4: Those early oiler teams when I was a kid were

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Speaker 4: And you know Earl was just running over people. But

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Speaker 5: We had that the whole run and shoot thing for

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Speaker 4: The playoffs and then you know, invariably we would lose,

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Speaker 4: to show for it, I have no regrets, none, whatsoever

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Speaker 3: It's been a good it's been a good ride, and and.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like, when you're a long suffering fan,

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Speaker 4: be the sweetest fruit sure out there to get. So

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Speaker 4: someday I will experience something that Cowboy fans have not

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Speaker 4: because you know, if they were that they were alive,

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Speaker 3: Know, they took it for I think they probably took

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Speaker 3: it for granted. I never will, and I just.

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Speaker 2: Got a long time for them, James, A long time.

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Speaker 3: It's true, It's true, and it's been you don't like,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, I.

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Speaker 4: Used to love watching the Cowboys be bad, and now

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Speaker 4: they've been bad for so long that it doesn't even

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Speaker 4: get it.

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Speaker 3: You're me. Now, I just want one, you know, before

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Speaker 2: That's it, just one, James, You've had some really painful

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Speaker 2: losses to endure. What was the most painful for you?

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Speaker 2: Was it the thirty five to three game against Buffalo

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Speaker 4: I would say that the thirty five to three loss

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Speaker 2: Love Dishman, loved Dishman.

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Speaker 3: It was a good team man.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was such a magical ride.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that I ever.

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Speaker 4: I didn't go into that season thinking, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: But it was not expected that was a sort of

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Speaker 4: And you know, as much as everyone looks likes to

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Speaker 3: It's not like it's like we win if he gets

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Speaker 4: Overtime and stop that offense again probably, And who knows.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, that's what a lot of times people when

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Speaker 2: so I think sometimes sports fans forget that stuff.

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Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, that's why it doesn't haunt me,

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Speaker 2: Well, that makes sense. What was your first memory? Would

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Speaker 2: What was the first memory?

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Speaker 3: You just nailed it?

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Speaker 4: Because when I was that, when I was that little,

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Speaker 2: Horseshoe on it at the Astrodome.

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Speaker 4: That running style was just so brutal. Obviously he paid,

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Speaker 2: Well, well, let me let me go through through your

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Speaker 2: twitter here. Okay, we're gonna call this part of our

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Speaker 2: I will read you a couple of your tweets, and

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Speaker 2: you tell me what you were thinking at the time

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Speaker 2: when you typed it out.

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Speaker 4: Cool cool fer Fair warning, I was hacked a while ago,

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Speaker 4: so if it's too recent, it might not actually be me.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's actually from from twenty twenty two, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you were hacked backed me. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, so let's start. This was an early September.

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Speaker 2: You had said, new year, same story, let's tighten up

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Speaker 2: and go to work. Now, what I take away from

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Speaker 2: that tweet was the mentality that the Titans are seen

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Speaker 2: as these underdogs. Is that what you were meaning to

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Speaker 2: say with that tweet?

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Speaker 4: Try to give my boys some bulletin board material. Nobody,

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Speaker 4: nobody thinks you can can.

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Speaker 3: Get it done. Everybody's doubting you.

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Speaker 4: Every year, regardless of what kind of offseason the Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this, no one's offseason got exciting than

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Speaker 4: the Indianapolis call. That's this is Indies years. They're obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know, the pick to win it every year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's the same old broken record. So that's what that tweetment.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you know, Okay, all right, so let's keep going.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, James, one more tweet from you, and

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Speaker 4: He was he was our passion game, you know. And

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the business of football. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: So you are you are at times.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: What's up? Tighten up?

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Speaker 5: Everybody knows Night two is where the real action happens.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even watch yesterday. Did I miss anything good?

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Speaker 5: In the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, our Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 2: Tackle Ohio State. Welcome. What was that like?

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Speaker 3: Pure bucket list?

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Speaker 4: Three of my best buddies from high school and I

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Speaker 3: Back in that green room. It was just it was

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Speaker 4: And you know, getting sixty nine out of all the

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Speaker 2: It really is. Really were you at all concerned or

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Speaker 4: It's a lot because you realize you have the responsibility

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Speaker 3: I was so stoked.

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Speaker 3: And there were some there, which is great. You never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about a dream come true. Now you are,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Brandt, my co host son Good Morning Football. He

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Speaker 3: He spent some time up there. He vamped.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he did know he was going sports to earth. Dude,

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Speaker 2: you would absolutely bonkers up there because Kyle had told him, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun.

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Speaker 4: And they kept playing the little the little jingle to

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. I think they played it like

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Speaker 2: J Mack wasn't gonna let go. Man, this was his time,

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Speaker 2: Talking about this year's draft, the Titans decided to draft

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Speaker 3: Again, I'll echo what I said before.

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Speaker 3: So I'm totally fine with the pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he's such a rational fan. Jamis to stop it,

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Speaker 4: There did come a point where I was scratching my

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Speaker 3: That would have been a lot tough tougher to swallow.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that we got him, you know, in

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Speaker 2: It brings a lot of swag. Man, he brings a

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And these are kids we have to remember.

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Speaker 4: And as long as he shows up and is respectful

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, we're probably looking at a future of of

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Speaker 4: Just must not have had those guys anywhere close, you know,

440
00:23:54,006 --> 00:23:55,646
Speaker 4: to the top of their board, you know, like the

441
00:23:55,966 --> 00:24:00,126
Speaker 4: Tyler Scott's, the at Perry's, like those guys whose college

442
00:24:00,126 --> 00:24:05,926
Speaker 4: production was like, you know, legit guys, tall guys that

443
00:24:05,926 --> 00:24:08,486
Speaker 4: could come down, you know, making tested catches, I mean,

444
00:24:08,806 --> 00:24:12,206
Speaker 4: guys that we need on that team, right that they

445
00:24:12,246 --> 00:24:15,486
Speaker 4: passed over time and time again. So they they must

446
00:24:15,486 --> 00:24:17,726
Speaker 4: have been following their board and they must not have

447
00:24:17,766 --> 00:24:22,766
Speaker 4: thought much of this of this receiver class. Uh and

448
00:24:22,886 --> 00:24:27,006
Speaker 4: uh unless unless they plan on I don't know, hosing

449
00:24:27,086 --> 00:24:29,726
Speaker 4: up Kenny Galladay or something.

450
00:24:29,926 --> 00:24:32,046
Speaker 3: It it feels sort of like what it is is

451
00:24:32,446 --> 00:24:32,766
Speaker 3: what we.

452
00:24:32,766 --> 00:24:36,926
Speaker 2: Got right right Well, honestly, it's it's clear by talking

453
00:24:36,966 --> 00:24:39,526
Speaker 2: to you, you know your stuff, you know your football.

454
00:24:39,926 --> 00:24:43,366
Speaker 2: I know that you were in a celebrity fantasy football

455
00:24:43,486 --> 00:24:47,286
Speaker 2: league with a bunch of guys. Des Bryant was one

456
00:24:47,326 --> 00:24:51,446
Speaker 2: of them. I think the Miz was in there a

457
00:24:51,486 --> 00:24:56,006
Speaker 2: bunch of other celebrities. Do you play fantasy football with

458
00:24:56,246 --> 00:25:00,726
Speaker 2: some of your castmates? From a million little things and psych.

459
00:25:02,246 --> 00:25:06,926
Speaker 4: I take fantasy football various seriously. It's probably the closest

460
00:25:06,926 --> 00:25:10,206
Speaker 4: thing to like a vice or a side hustle that

461
00:25:10,286 --> 00:25:11,046
Speaker 4: I have so.

462
00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:13,446
Speaker 2: See in multiple leagues that I'm assuming just.

463
00:25:13,326 --> 00:25:19,206
Speaker 4: By that segue, I play high stakes how many against

464
00:25:19,726 --> 00:25:23,406
Speaker 4: you know, those those guys and gals who basically treat

465
00:25:23,446 --> 00:25:27,006
Speaker 4: it like professional poker, you know, in the n f

466
00:25:27,006 --> 00:25:30,486
Speaker 4: f C and the ff PC, and and then I

467
00:25:30,526 --> 00:25:33,406
Speaker 4: also have my charity leagues that I do. Uh, I

468
00:25:33,486 --> 00:25:35,846
Speaker 4: do one in the n f f C to to

469
00:25:35,966 --> 00:25:39,206
Speaker 4: raise money for pediatric cancer. And then I've been doing

470
00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:43,206
Speaker 4: Michael Fabiano's for the last couple of years.

471
00:25:42,286 --> 00:25:44,606
Speaker 3: Yea, FABS is awesome.

472
00:25:44,726 --> 00:25:47,366
Speaker 4: He has slain it as a sponsor for his league

473
00:25:47,366 --> 00:25:50,166
Speaker 4: and everybody gets to play for a charity, and that's awesome.

474
00:25:51,366 --> 00:25:56,486
Speaker 2: Well you, I mean, clearly you are really into fantasy football.

475
00:25:56,526 --> 00:25:59,486
Speaker 2: Did you ever win at all any of these leagues?

476
00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:04,286
Speaker 3: That's the that's the poison that keeps me coming back.

477
00:26:05,366 --> 00:26:10,286
Speaker 4: Of course, I had some really big years early on

478
00:26:11,246 --> 00:26:15,606
Speaker 4: when I first started in the NFFC and I made

479
00:26:15,646 --> 00:26:18,206
Speaker 4: some real money and so I you know, I convinced

480
00:26:18,206 --> 00:26:21,366
Speaker 4: myself that I really was one of one of the

481
00:26:21,406 --> 00:26:25,486
Speaker 4: best high stakes fantasy football players in the world. And

482
00:26:25,806 --> 00:26:29,966
Speaker 4: it's been a it's been some really lean years since then.

483
00:26:31,926 --> 00:26:35,286
Speaker 4: But I can't stop now, you know. It's you look

484
00:26:35,366 --> 00:26:38,126
Speaker 4: so old man to it. It's in my blood, it's

485
00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:41,606
Speaker 4: just part of my DNA. But I have not had

486
00:26:41,646 --> 00:26:44,686
Speaker 4: the success, I would say, in the last six seven

487
00:26:44,766 --> 00:26:46,846
Speaker 4: years that I did when I first started.

488
00:26:47,886 --> 00:26:48,646
Speaker 3: It's tough, man.

489
00:26:48,726 --> 00:26:52,486
Speaker 4: It's tough to compete with with these players that pretty

490
00:26:52,566 --> 00:26:54,366
Speaker 4: much do it as a job, you.

491
00:26:54,326 --> 00:26:57,726
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, I mean they're they're on it right,

492
00:26:57,766 --> 00:27:01,766
Speaker 2: They're reading things and they are combing that waiver wire

493
00:27:02,046 --> 00:27:06,086
Speaker 2: looking for the best fines and saying, oh, oky, DeAndre Hopkins,

494
00:27:06,766 --> 00:27:08,806
Speaker 2: he's not going to be starting the season, but he'll

495
00:27:08,846 --> 00:27:13,366
Speaker 2: be coming off that list and then you gotta stash him. Right.

496
00:27:13,886 --> 00:27:16,806
Speaker 4: It's it's I always feel like I'm about ten minutes

497
00:27:16,846 --> 00:27:21,166
Speaker 4: behind everybody, and that's really all it takes. Yeah, same

498
00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:25,246
Speaker 4: thing with baseball too, like because I also do fantasy baseball,

499
00:27:25,286 --> 00:27:27,126
Speaker 4: and it's like the fab results will.

500
00:27:26,926 --> 00:27:28,486
Speaker 3: Come in and it's just bless you.

501
00:27:28,766 --> 00:27:31,566
Speaker 2: You do a baseball fantasy league too, I do.

502
00:27:32,166 --> 00:27:34,926
Speaker 4: I do, And it's just too often that, you know,

503
00:27:35,006 --> 00:27:38,326
Speaker 4: you see the first and M on the list of

504
00:27:38,446 --> 00:27:42,086
Speaker 4: fab and I'm like, I've never heard of that guy,

505
00:27:42,486 --> 00:27:45,446
Speaker 4: Like how how could he have gone for six hundred

506
00:27:45,486 --> 00:27:48,366
Speaker 4: and fifty dollars? And it's usually some kid picture that

507
00:27:48,446 --> 00:27:51,126
Speaker 4: got called up and I missed it. But these people

508
00:27:51,166 --> 00:27:52,446
Speaker 4: do not miss it.

509
00:27:54,446 --> 00:27:56,726
Speaker 3: There's I mean, it's not like in your home league.

510
00:27:56,526 --> 00:27:58,806
Speaker 4: When you're the best player and you know you can

511
00:27:58,886 --> 00:28:02,246
Speaker 4: kind of just you're toying with people and dominating.

512
00:28:02,366 --> 00:28:04,806
Speaker 3: You go up to the high stakes leagues.

513
00:28:04,566 --> 00:28:07,406
Speaker 4: And you realize, oh my gosh, I'm I am those

514
00:28:07,446 --> 00:28:09,366
Speaker 4: poor bastards in my home league.

515
00:28:09,406 --> 00:28:15,126
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about like toying with people. It felt

516
00:28:15,166 --> 00:28:19,286
Speaker 2: like you were toying with people's emotions in that finale

517
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:23,926
Speaker 2: of a Million Little Things. I mean, talk about a heartbreaker, man,

518
00:28:24,046 --> 00:28:26,166
Speaker 2: I mean that gets you right there in the heart.

519
00:28:26,406 --> 00:28:29,846
Speaker 2: You were such a beloved character. How did you prepare

520
00:28:30,086 --> 00:28:32,766
Speaker 2: for that? And what kind of reaction have you gotten

521
00:28:32,886 --> 00:28:33,406
Speaker 2: since then?

522
00:28:34,806 --> 00:28:38,086
Speaker 4: Well, the good news is I knew that was coming

523
00:28:38,126 --> 00:28:41,206
Speaker 4: for quite some time. It wasn't like it wasn't thrust

524
00:28:41,286 --> 00:28:45,486
Speaker 4: upon me, like it's a great story about Ray Wise,

525
00:28:45,726 --> 00:28:49,406
Speaker 4: who played Leland Palmer and Twin Peaks, and you know,

526
00:28:50,166 --> 00:28:52,646
Speaker 4: David Lynch brought him into a room with just a

527
00:28:52,726 --> 00:28:57,326
Speaker 4: lava lamp, like the week before they were shooting the

528
00:28:57,406 --> 00:29:00,246
Speaker 4: last episode of season one and nobody knew.

529
00:29:00,166 --> 00:29:03,686
Speaker 3: Who had killed Laura Palmer. And he set Ray down

530
00:29:03,726 --> 00:29:07,126
Speaker 3: and he was like, Ray, it's you. It's always been you.

531
00:29:07,326 --> 00:29:11,646
Speaker 4: Ray just he kind of just melted because he had

532
00:29:11,846 --> 00:29:14,646
Speaker 4: this much time to process the fact, you know, that

533
00:29:14,726 --> 00:29:16,086
Speaker 4: he had killed his own daughter.

534
00:29:17,766 --> 00:29:20,046
Speaker 3: Luckily, I knew that, you know, Gary, this was the

535
00:29:20,046 --> 00:29:22,486
Speaker 3: way Gary was going to go out for a while,

536
00:29:22,686 --> 00:29:23,846
Speaker 3: for multiple seasons.

537
00:29:23,926 --> 00:29:26,406
Speaker 4: And you know, we really it was just about making

538
00:29:26,446 --> 00:29:29,406
Speaker 4: sure that it felt earned and that we were able

539
00:29:29,446 --> 00:29:32,886
Speaker 4: to sort of hit every point along the way of

540
00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:36,606
Speaker 4: telling the story so that, you know, when we did it,

541
00:29:36,646 --> 00:29:39,366
Speaker 4: we felt like, you know, we were we were doing

542
00:29:39,446 --> 00:29:41,686
Speaker 4: it for the right reasons. We were doing it authentically,

543
00:29:41,726 --> 00:29:44,406
Speaker 4: We were showing reverence and respect and not just kind

544
00:29:44,446 --> 00:29:48,086
Speaker 4: of drum up, you know, the most emotionally manipulative you

545
00:29:48,086 --> 00:29:51,006
Speaker 4: know finale that we could. So we would check in

546
00:29:51,046 --> 00:29:54,966
Speaker 4: with each other periodically. The show creator and I, you know,

547
00:29:55,006 --> 00:29:56,806
Speaker 4: over the last few seasons to make sure that we

548
00:29:56,846 --> 00:29:58,406
Speaker 4: felt like we were still on track with it.

549
00:29:59,206 --> 00:30:00,726
Speaker 3: So I did have it was a long play.

550
00:30:01,806 --> 00:30:05,406
Speaker 4: I was obviously sworn to secrecy, but but I knew

551
00:30:05,446 --> 00:30:06,006
Speaker 4: it was coming.

552
00:30:06,366 --> 00:30:10,166
Speaker 3: And uh, it's still like once you shave your head.

553
00:30:09,926 --> 00:30:13,526
Speaker 4: And have your eyebrows covered up, and you know, and

554
00:30:13,566 --> 00:30:18,726
Speaker 4: you're spending hours in make up to become someone who

555
00:30:19,286 --> 00:30:22,806
Speaker 4: you know, who looks that ill, it's still uh, still jarring.

556
00:30:22,926 --> 00:30:26,606
Speaker 4: It's it's still triggering you. It hits you pretty hard.

557
00:30:27,006 --> 00:30:31,006
Speaker 4: How many people have fallen to this awful, awful disease

558
00:30:31,046 --> 00:30:33,886
Speaker 4: and how many families have had to say their goodbyes

559
00:30:33,926 --> 00:30:38,206
Speaker 4: and and uh, you know, you it's a lot, and

560
00:30:38,206 --> 00:30:40,966
Speaker 4: and you want to sort of represent it, uh, you know,

561
00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:45,006
Speaker 4: like I said, with as respectfully and truthfully as as

562
00:30:45,006 --> 00:30:49,206
Speaker 4: you possibly can. And and then you just feel incredibly

563
00:30:49,366 --> 00:30:51,966
Speaker 4: appreciative that at the end of the day, you know,

564
00:30:52,046 --> 00:30:54,926
Speaker 4: you get to go take that makeup off and uh,

565
00:30:55,366 --> 00:30:58,446
Speaker 4: and you get your eyebrows back and and you just

566
00:30:59,406 --> 00:31:02,526
Speaker 4: you know, you really you realize how how how beautiful

567
00:31:02,526 --> 00:31:04,606
Speaker 4: every day is and how you can never take them

568
00:31:04,606 --> 00:31:05,166
Speaker 4: from it.

569
00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:10,246
Speaker 2: It was powerful and you were terrific, and I think

570
00:31:10,286 --> 00:31:13,206
Speaker 2: you blessed a lot of people with an awesome performance

571
00:31:13,246 --> 00:31:17,886
Speaker 2: that will resonate for a long time. And then you're

572
00:31:17,926 --> 00:31:25,326
Speaker 2: on another wildly popular series slash franchise in Psych. I

573
00:31:25,326 --> 00:31:28,566
Speaker 2: mean not one, but two franchise. I mentioned off the top,

574
00:31:29,486 --> 00:31:33,766
Speaker 2: what is it about Psych that really resonates with people?

575
00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:40,326
Speaker 4: You know, It's been something of a phenomenon to me.

576
00:31:40,406 --> 00:31:42,806
Speaker 4: I mean, certainly none of us thought that when we

577
00:31:43,126 --> 00:31:47,366
Speaker 4: made this tiny little pilot for the then fledgling USA

578
00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:48,006
Speaker 4: network that.

579
00:31:47,966 --> 00:31:51,046
Speaker 3: It would become you know what it has become.

580
00:31:52,366 --> 00:31:55,526
Speaker 4: I think the spirit of the show sort of speaks

581
00:31:55,526 --> 00:31:59,126
Speaker 4: for itself. It was created by Steve Franks, who, in

582
00:31:59,206 --> 00:32:05,486
Speaker 4: many ways, you know, kind of embodies positivity.

583
00:32:07,366 --> 00:32:11,126
Speaker 3: His approach to life is just it's so it's so.

584
00:32:11,206 --> 00:32:15,806
Speaker 4: Beautiful and and aspirational, and it comes it comes through

585
00:32:15,886 --> 00:32:18,606
Speaker 4: in his writing and his approach to, you know, to

586
00:32:18,966 --> 00:32:21,406
Speaker 4: making a show. And then you put together a group

587
00:32:21,486 --> 00:32:25,286
Speaker 4: of people who all just really hit it off and

588
00:32:25,286 --> 00:32:28,046
Speaker 4: and came to love and respect one another. And so

589
00:32:28,646 --> 00:32:32,126
Speaker 4: just a ton of love went into making that show.

590
00:32:32,806 --> 00:32:38,246
Speaker 4: And and we also realized, somewhat surprisingly that we were

591
00:32:38,286 --> 00:32:43,326
Speaker 4: being embraced as a series that families could come together

592
00:32:43,366 --> 00:32:48,166
Speaker 4: and watch like together, like so many people told us

593
00:32:48,206 --> 00:32:49,686
Speaker 4: over the run of the show, like, you know, the

594
00:32:49,726 --> 00:32:52,926
Speaker 4: only time I see my teenager is when we watch

595
00:32:53,006 --> 00:32:54,686
Speaker 4: psych That's.

596
00:32:54,526 --> 00:32:55,366
Speaker 5: So cool to hear.

597
00:32:56,046 --> 00:32:56,766
Speaker 3: I think that's it.

598
00:32:56,926 --> 00:32:59,566
Speaker 4: I really do feel like that's the key, Like you know,

599
00:32:59,766 --> 00:33:03,326
Speaker 4: we've managed to we threaded this needle of like, oh,

600
00:33:03,886 --> 00:33:07,006
Speaker 4: people our age and appreciate this because all the references

601
00:33:07,046 --> 00:33:10,926
Speaker 4: remind us of our childhoods. But a teenager can appreciate

602
00:33:10,966 --> 00:33:13,286
Speaker 4: it because these two fools are having such a good

603
00:33:13,286 --> 00:33:15,726
Speaker 4: time and it reminds them of them and their best buddy,

604
00:33:17,246 --> 00:33:20,686
Speaker 4: and so you have like multi generational sort of viewing

605
00:33:20,726 --> 00:33:25,526
Speaker 4: experiences happening. And then the show kind of got passed down.

606
00:33:25,166 --> 00:33:28,286
Speaker 4: And that's why I like when twelve year olds now

607
00:33:28,486 --> 00:33:31,486
Speaker 4: come up and recognize me as Sean.

608
00:33:32,286 --> 00:33:36,326
Speaker 3: It just blows my mind, like you're twelve, Like you

609
00:33:36,326 --> 00:33:37,406
Speaker 3: have no idea.

610
00:33:37,086 --> 00:33:40,246
Speaker 4: What we're talking about on that, But I think what

611
00:33:40,366 --> 00:33:46,206
Speaker 4: resonates is sort of the spirit of silliness and you know,

612
00:33:46,286 --> 00:33:49,686
Speaker 4: two grown ups running around acting like children and two

613
00:33:49,766 --> 00:33:53,206
Speaker 4: best friends living out sort of a childhood dream and

614
00:33:53,326 --> 00:33:56,966
Speaker 4: doing it without you know, any blood or guts or

615
00:33:57,686 --> 00:34:00,766
Speaker 4: f bombs. Or nudity. I think all of those things

616
00:34:00,806 --> 00:34:05,126
Speaker 4: sort of came together and made a stew that felt

617
00:34:05,206 --> 00:34:06,606
Speaker 4: very right for a lot of people.

618
00:34:07,086 --> 00:34:10,246
Speaker 2: It's it's awesome what you guys have done and what

619
00:34:10,286 --> 00:34:15,726
Speaker 2: you've created, and you also honor other genres as well,

620
00:34:15,806 --> 00:34:20,086
Speaker 2: genres that you like, genres that people relate to and

621
00:34:20,446 --> 00:34:25,446
Speaker 2: really gravitate to. What can you tell us about now

622
00:34:25,566 --> 00:34:28,606
Speaker 2: the what will be the fourth movie? Now? What? What

623
00:34:28,726 --> 00:34:31,326
Speaker 2: can you tell us about where things stand there?

624
00:34:31,966 --> 00:34:32,206
Speaker 4: Yeah?

625
00:34:32,286 --> 00:34:33,966
Speaker 3: I mean I wish there was more to report.

626
00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:38,486
Speaker 4: We there is a there is a script.

627
00:34:38,806 --> 00:34:39,006
Speaker 2: You know.

628
00:34:39,166 --> 00:34:42,126
Speaker 4: At one point we were toying with the idea of

629
00:34:42,206 --> 00:34:47,886
Speaker 4: maybe doing three and four back to back, just because

630
00:34:48,126 --> 00:34:51,406
Speaker 4: it's so difficult to get all these to get everybody's

631
00:34:51,406 --> 00:34:55,486
Speaker 4: schedules lined up and sure and and find a pocket

632
00:34:55,526 --> 00:34:59,766
Speaker 4: of time. That ended up not happening because it was

633
00:34:59,886 --> 00:35:00,846
Speaker 4: it was during COVID.

634
00:35:00,846 --> 00:35:04,246
Speaker 3: It was difficult. It would have been weird. Frankly.

635
00:35:04,286 --> 00:35:08,006
Speaker 4: I mean know that that fourth script probably wasn't as

636
00:35:08,206 --> 00:35:11,046
Speaker 4: cooked as much as it needed to be on top

637
00:35:11,086 --> 00:35:11,646
Speaker 4: of everything.

638
00:35:11,726 --> 00:35:14,526
Speaker 3: So the good news is, I think I think the

639
00:35:14,566 --> 00:35:15,126
Speaker 3: script is.

640
00:35:15,086 --> 00:35:20,126
Speaker 4: Better now, and now it'll come down to, like you know,

641
00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:28,686
Speaker 4: the peacock finding some dough and getting everybody's schedules aligned again,

642
00:35:28,806 --> 00:35:31,326
Speaker 4: which you know, we can always we can always figure

643
00:35:31,326 --> 00:35:33,086
Speaker 4: that part out because it doesn't take us long to

644
00:35:33,126 --> 00:35:34,766
Speaker 4: shoot these things.

645
00:35:35,246 --> 00:35:37,646
Speaker 3: You know, we're we're very early.

646
00:35:38,926 --> 00:35:43,286
Speaker 4: Into a writer's strike, so it won't be happening anytime soon.

647
00:35:43,926 --> 00:35:45,566
Speaker 2: It's too bad. It's too bad.

648
00:35:46,126 --> 00:35:49,846
Speaker 4: But maybe uh, you know, maybe into this year, next

649
00:35:49,926 --> 00:35:53,006
Speaker 4: year it comes together. And then you know, the Psych

650
00:35:53,086 --> 00:35:55,766
Speaker 4: fans are so great and they're so patient, and and

651
00:35:56,286 --> 00:35:58,166
Speaker 4: you know they always let us know that the appetite

652
00:35:58,206 --> 00:35:58,726
Speaker 4: is still there.

653
00:35:58,806 --> 00:36:03,086
Speaker 3: So that's an easy part of the pitch to the peacock.

654
00:36:04,206 --> 00:36:06,766
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this. It's basically the same dance that we've

655
00:36:06,806 --> 00:36:08,766
Speaker 4: done for every movie. You kind of have to go

656
00:36:08,886 --> 00:36:12,646
Speaker 4: in and remind them, you know why Psych is important,

657
00:36:12,766 --> 00:36:15,606
Speaker 4: and you know how the brand has been around for

658
00:36:15,646 --> 00:36:19,166
Speaker 4: so long, and and how you know it's reached so

659
00:36:19,206 --> 00:36:22,606
Speaker 4: many people, and and you know there's there's always turnover

660
00:36:22,886 --> 00:36:26,046
Speaker 4: at these places, so you know, you're always pitching a

661
00:36:26,086 --> 00:36:29,206
Speaker 4: new group of execs who may or may not have

662
00:36:29,286 --> 00:36:30,166
Speaker 4: ever watched Psych.

663
00:36:30,726 --> 00:36:33,806
Speaker 3: That's what happens when you last as long as we have.

664
00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:38,286
Speaker 4: You know that old guard is you know that that

665
00:36:38,286 --> 00:36:41,286
Speaker 4: that was there with us in the beginning are all gone.

666
00:36:41,766 --> 00:36:45,446
Speaker 4: So if you're getting passed off to new people and

667
00:36:45,486 --> 00:36:47,806
Speaker 4: then kind of singing for your suffer a little bit.

668
00:36:47,926 --> 00:36:50,326
Speaker 4: But it's worth it to us because we love our

669
00:36:50,366 --> 00:36:53,166
Speaker 4: fans so much. And it's also it's also worth it

670
00:36:53,246 --> 00:36:55,926
Speaker 4: to us because those movies are basically like little many

671
00:36:55,966 --> 00:36:58,166
Speaker 4: family reunions and they're blast.

672
00:36:59,766 --> 00:37:03,486
Speaker 2: It's it's a blast to sit back and watch it

673
00:37:03,526 --> 00:37:07,966
Speaker 2: and also see the traject of your career. And when

674
00:37:08,286 --> 00:37:12,686
Speaker 2: you started you had your name of James Rode and

675
00:37:12,726 --> 00:37:17,766
Speaker 2: then you added James Rode Rodriguez. Talk about the self

676
00:37:17,806 --> 00:37:21,006
Speaker 2: discovery that you had to get to that point. I

677
00:37:21,046 --> 00:37:23,566
Speaker 2: know at one point in time, I had a couple

678
00:37:23,566 --> 00:37:26,246
Speaker 2: of bosses that wanted me to change my name to

679
00:37:26,326 --> 00:37:31,286
Speaker 2: Guillermo uh, And that was something that they thought, Hey,

680
00:37:31,566 --> 00:37:33,206
Speaker 2: what do you think about that? Are you Is it

681
00:37:33,286 --> 00:37:35,406
Speaker 2: something that you're comfortable with now? In the neighborhood that

682
00:37:35,446 --> 00:37:38,926
Speaker 2: I grew up in, people called me Guillermo, but that

683
00:37:39,246 --> 00:37:43,806
Speaker 2: wasn't my name. And with that process for me, I

684
00:37:43,966 --> 00:37:47,766
Speaker 2: just learned a lot about myself and just about my

685
00:37:47,966 --> 00:37:52,886
Speaker 2: background and about what I want in the future. What

686
00:37:53,006 --> 00:37:57,446
Speaker 2: was that self discovery process for you to get to

687
00:37:57,486 --> 00:37:59,926
Speaker 2: the point that you finally did well.

688
00:38:00,526 --> 00:38:06,166
Speaker 4: It was heavily fueled by the pandemic, which sort of

689
00:38:07,286 --> 00:38:15,486
Speaker 4: forced life to slow down. And you know, I generally

690
00:38:15,526 --> 00:38:18,166
Speaker 4: lived my life very fast. I've got ten things going

691
00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:18,766
Speaker 4: on at once.

692
00:38:18,846 --> 00:38:22,206
Speaker 3: It's sort of it is who I am and it's

693
00:38:22,246 --> 00:38:23,006
Speaker 3: how I thrive.

694
00:38:23,246 --> 00:38:26,086
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, I found myself with a

695
00:38:26,126 --> 00:38:29,926
Speaker 4: whole bunch of time, a whole lot of stillness and

696
00:38:31,126 --> 00:38:34,126
Speaker 4: reading and thinking about stuff that I hadn't honestly thought

697
00:38:34,126 --> 00:38:35,006
Speaker 4: about in years.

698
00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:37,286
Speaker 3: And I was talking to my.

699
00:38:37,326 --> 00:38:41,246
Speaker 4: Dad, and you know, he was telling me stories about

700
00:38:41,246 --> 00:38:45,486
Speaker 4: my grandparents that I had never heard. And I just

701
00:38:45,526 --> 00:38:49,246
Speaker 4: woke up one day and was like, why am I not?

702
00:38:50,406 --> 00:38:53,006
Speaker 4: Why am I not representing? Like I knew why I

703
00:38:53,406 --> 00:38:58,086
Speaker 4: initially I had dropped Rodriguez. And it's because I was

704
00:38:58,126 --> 00:39:00,846
Speaker 4: a kid coming out of college who had no idea

705
00:39:00,926 --> 00:39:06,286
Speaker 4: how the business worked. And you know, a casting directors

706
00:39:06,326 --> 00:39:11,126
Speaker 4: and a TV executive who had absolutely no malice whatsoever,

707
00:39:11,246 --> 00:39:15,446
Speaker 4: were like, hey, you know, you would probably behoove you

708
00:39:15,566 --> 00:39:18,646
Speaker 4: to have a wider name because you look white and

709
00:39:18,686 --> 00:39:21,406
Speaker 4: it might confuse people. And this was in the nineties,

710
00:39:21,566 --> 00:39:24,086
Speaker 4: and I don't even hold it against them. I think

711
00:39:24,126 --> 00:39:26,566
Speaker 4: they were just trying to help me. And at the time,

712
00:39:27,086 --> 00:39:29,206
Speaker 4: I would have done anything like they could have said,

713
00:39:29,246 --> 00:39:31,966
Speaker 4: you know, top off, if you chopped.

714
00:39:31,726 --> 00:39:34,926
Speaker 3: Off your pinky toe, they might give you a leg up.

715
00:39:34,926 --> 00:39:37,286
Speaker 4: It's these auditions like I probably would have done it

716
00:39:37,326 --> 00:39:41,046
Speaker 4: because I didn't know anybody, and the idea of becoming

717
00:39:41,086 --> 00:39:46,326
Speaker 4: successful in this business was so daunting and beyond something

718
00:39:46,366 --> 00:39:47,286
Speaker 4: that I could wrap.

719
00:39:47,086 --> 00:39:49,406
Speaker 3: My head around that I was taking every piece of

720
00:39:49,406 --> 00:39:50,206
Speaker 3: advice I could.

721
00:39:50,286 --> 00:39:54,046
Speaker 4: So I did it, and the next thing I knew,

722
00:39:54,086 --> 00:39:58,206
Speaker 4: I was working and I built a career. And then

723
00:39:58,406 --> 00:40:01,646
Speaker 4: you know, twenty years in, I'm sitting there going, man,

724
00:40:02,926 --> 00:40:06,446
Speaker 4: if I was starting my career today, a nobody would

725
00:40:06,446 --> 00:40:10,006
Speaker 4: give me that advice because they wouldn't be caught dead,

726
00:40:10,246 --> 00:40:14,406
Speaker 4: you know, saying right and b It wouldn't have It

727
00:40:14,406 --> 00:40:17,486
Speaker 4: wouldn't have occurred to me that there's anything weird about

728
00:40:17,566 --> 00:40:20,366
Speaker 4: being Rodriguez either, because there have been so many people now,

729
00:40:21,766 --> 00:40:25,286
Speaker 4: especially in the LATINX community, that you know, have have

730
00:40:25,446 --> 00:40:28,006
Speaker 4: kept their names and represented and it just it wouldn't

731
00:40:28,046 --> 00:40:32,646
Speaker 4: have even been something to think about. And so, you know,

732
00:40:32,766 --> 00:40:35,166
Speaker 4: the good news is that I was you know, I

733
00:40:35,246 --> 00:40:38,886
Speaker 4: better late than never, Uh, Yeah, I wish I had

734
00:40:38,926 --> 00:40:42,286
Speaker 4: done it sooner. I would have loved for my grandparents

735
00:40:42,286 --> 00:40:45,806
Speaker 4: to have still been around, you know, to enjoy my

736
00:40:45,926 --> 00:40:51,126
Speaker 4: work as as Rodriguez. But you know, my dad is

737
00:40:51,446 --> 00:40:52,326
Speaker 4: is still here.

738
00:40:52,246 --> 00:40:55,126
Speaker 3: And uh, I know it meant a lot to him.

739
00:40:55,166 --> 00:41:02,486
Speaker 4: And and I think, you know, as best as I

740
00:41:02,526 --> 00:41:05,926
Speaker 4: could have could express like, you know, how how I

741
00:41:05,926 --> 00:41:08,646
Speaker 4: could I could totally see that, you know, how it

742
00:41:08,646 --> 00:41:12,086
Speaker 4: could be perceived as like this, you know, this woke

743
00:41:12,326 --> 00:41:16,686
Speaker 4: thing that I did, you know, with an agenda behind it,

744
00:41:16,766 --> 00:41:18,886
Speaker 4: Like the truth is, I just felt really bad.

745
00:41:21,366 --> 00:41:22,246
Speaker 3: It caught up with me.

746
00:41:24,366 --> 00:41:26,246
Speaker 4: I had some time to think about it and really

747
00:41:26,246 --> 00:41:30,726
Speaker 4: look inward, and and it just became crystal clear that

748
00:41:30,806 --> 00:41:34,486
Speaker 4: there was simply no reason for me to not use

749
00:41:34,526 --> 00:41:38,326
Speaker 4: my name anymore. And so I did it, and I

750
00:41:38,366 --> 00:41:41,526
Speaker 4: did it, you know, probably twenty years too late.

751
00:41:41,726 --> 00:41:47,406
Speaker 2: But what was what was the reaction of other people, say,

752
00:41:47,606 --> 00:41:51,086
Speaker 2: in Hollywood and in the entertainment industry when you did that.

753
00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:54,926
Speaker 4: I would say it was ninety eight percent very positive

754
00:41:55,886 --> 00:42:01,606
Speaker 4: and very supportive. Again, you know, Hollywood especially, I think,

755
00:42:03,286 --> 00:42:06,566
Speaker 4: loves to put itself out in front of any sort

756
00:42:06,566 --> 00:42:12,966
Speaker 4: of movement, and sometimes that's authentic and sometimes it's it's nonsense,

757
00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:18,766
Speaker 4: but you know it. Nobody's gonna not support someone reclaiming

758
00:42:18,886 --> 00:42:23,046
Speaker 4: their heritage on any sort of public platform just because

759
00:42:23,086 --> 00:42:27,886
Speaker 4: of the optics. But there were non Hollywood people, I

760
00:42:27,926 --> 00:42:31,406
Speaker 4: think there was. There was the two percent of people

761
00:42:31,446 --> 00:42:35,446
Speaker 4: that will, you know, really question like why now, and

762
00:42:35,526 --> 00:42:36,806
Speaker 4: rightfully so, like I.

763
00:42:37,406 --> 00:42:40,366
Speaker 2: But James, part of it, though, is that you know

764
00:42:40,446 --> 00:42:45,086
Speaker 2: you're established now, Like you are established and successful and

765
00:42:45,126 --> 00:42:49,286
Speaker 2: you've had longevity, so it's not like you needed it

766
00:42:49,606 --> 00:42:55,766
Speaker 2: to boost your career anymore than it's already boosted right

767
00:42:55,806 --> 00:42:57,326
Speaker 2: by the work that you've done.

768
00:42:57,686 --> 00:42:57,966
Speaker 3: Yeah.

769
00:42:58,046 --> 00:43:00,006
Speaker 4: I can tell you that changing my name has not

770
00:43:02,326 --> 00:43:04,446
Speaker 4: has not gotten me a single extra job.

771
00:43:05,446 --> 00:43:05,846
Speaker 2: Yeah.

772
00:43:06,126 --> 00:43:08,566
Speaker 4: But the flip side of that coin that you're talking

773
00:43:08,606 --> 00:43:11,726
Speaker 4: about is like, well, sure you waited. You waited until

774
00:43:11,766 --> 00:43:14,486
Speaker 4: you were successful and you had a career and you

775
00:43:14,526 --> 00:43:16,166
Speaker 4: were established, and then it.

776
00:43:16,166 --> 00:43:19,166
Speaker 3: Was okay to be Rodriguez. So I get both sides

777
00:43:19,206 --> 00:43:20,486
Speaker 3: of that argument. Yeah.

778
00:43:20,686 --> 00:43:25,246
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well do you feel like the weight of the

779
00:43:25,406 --> 00:43:33,446
Speaker 2: representation now in Hollywood and having the name now attached

780
00:43:33,446 --> 00:43:33,646
Speaker 2: to you?

781
00:43:34,286 --> 00:43:38,206
Speaker 4: I mean, it hasn't changed a ton, except in the

782
00:43:38,206 --> 00:43:44,846
Speaker 4: way that I feel I was never hiding my Latino

783
00:43:44,966 --> 00:43:47,726
Speaker 4: ness I mean, I was, I was nominated for almost

784
00:43:47,806 --> 00:43:51,286
Speaker 4: and Emochin Awards, and I presented, and I was doing

785
00:43:51,406 --> 00:43:55,246
Speaker 4: I would do the occasional interview with you know, a

786
00:43:55,286 --> 00:43:58,566
Speaker 4: publication that you know, it was sort of you know,

787
00:43:58,606 --> 00:43:59,806
Speaker 4: it was Latino driven.

788
00:43:59,886 --> 00:44:02,286
Speaker 3: It was like it wasn't a secret. I just I

789
00:44:02,366 --> 00:44:05,046
Speaker 3: just wasn't throwing my name out there. Yeah.

790
00:44:05,486 --> 00:44:08,366
Speaker 4: So now I just think, you know, there's there's an

791
00:44:08,366 --> 00:44:11,486
Speaker 4: element of pride that comes along with it, and it

792
00:44:11,526 --> 00:44:16,406
Speaker 4: feels it just feels better for sure. Yeah, you know,

793
00:44:16,766 --> 00:44:18,526
Speaker 4: A million little things was the first time that I

794
00:44:18,606 --> 00:44:22,166
Speaker 4: ever played a Latino in my career, and I give

795
00:44:22,246 --> 00:44:24,406
Speaker 4: DJ Nash credit for that because he said.

796
00:44:24,166 --> 00:44:27,206
Speaker 3: Hey, why why don't we use why don't.

797
00:44:27,046 --> 00:44:29,286
Speaker 4: We use this from your real life, Like let's make

798
00:44:29,326 --> 00:44:31,486
Speaker 4: you half Mexican, Let's give you a Mexican father.

799
00:44:31,686 --> 00:44:31,806
Speaker 3: Like.

800
00:44:32,446 --> 00:44:34,366
Speaker 4: It was the first time that I that I was

801
00:44:34,406 --> 00:44:37,606
Speaker 4: ever able to sort of marry the ideas of identity

802
00:44:37,726 --> 00:44:42,846
Speaker 4: and my art into one character. And that was really

803
00:44:42,846 --> 00:44:45,966
Speaker 4: cool too, man Like, that was cathartic thing that brought

804
00:44:46,006 --> 00:44:49,326
Speaker 4: me a lot closer to who I really am. And

805
00:44:49,406 --> 00:44:52,686
Speaker 4: I think I thank him for that for sure. But

806
00:44:52,766 --> 00:44:56,486
Speaker 4: as far as like the pressure of representation, Like I'm

807
00:44:56,526 --> 00:45:00,126
Speaker 4: out there nine times out of ten, Am I going

808
00:45:00,206 --> 00:45:03,486
Speaker 4: to get a role that's written for a Latinos?

809
00:45:03,486 --> 00:45:03,766
Speaker 3: Still?

810
00:45:03,806 --> 00:45:06,686
Speaker 4: Probably not because is there's gonna be guys that just

811
00:45:07,606 --> 00:45:11,126
Speaker 4: look more Latino than I do, and and that's and

812
00:45:11,166 --> 00:45:14,286
Speaker 4: that's okay. Like I I probably wouldn't cast me either,

813
00:45:14,446 --> 00:45:18,406
Speaker 4: but I'm certainly willing to talk about it now and

814
00:45:18,766 --> 00:45:23,806
Speaker 4: uh and and carry the flags as best as I can, sure,

815
00:45:24,446 --> 00:45:26,326
Speaker 4: because we need as much representation as.

816
00:45:26,166 --> 00:45:27,926
Speaker 3: Hollood, as Hollywood as we can get.

817
00:45:28,086 --> 00:45:32,086
Speaker 4: Like I would, I would say as as many sort

818
00:45:32,086 --> 00:45:36,126
Speaker 4: of diverse diversity initiatives are that are happening right now,

819
00:45:38,246 --> 00:45:42,966
Speaker 4: you know, the LATINX community is still I think needs more.

820
00:45:43,206 --> 00:45:46,606
Speaker 2: So Yeah, yeah, Well, what what was it like for

821
00:45:46,766 --> 00:45:49,966
Speaker 2: you growing up where you're at half of your family

822
00:45:50,086 --> 00:45:54,126
Speaker 2: that was Mexican. You mentioned earlier in the podcast that

823
00:45:55,366 --> 00:45:59,326
Speaker 2: they were all Dallas Cowboys fans, Like, what was it

824
00:45:59,406 --> 00:46:05,006
Speaker 2: like culturally for you growing up with with having off

825
00:46:05,046 --> 00:46:08,646
Speaker 2: that side being Mexican and growing up in San Antonio.

826
00:46:10,126 --> 00:46:13,566
Speaker 4: It was interesting because we were the only ones in

827
00:46:13,606 --> 00:46:16,286
Speaker 4: San Antonio. Everyone else was in Dallas, and so it

828
00:46:16,406 --> 00:46:21,406
Speaker 4: was basically a once or maybe twice a year holiday

829
00:46:21,446 --> 00:46:25,686
Speaker 4: family gathering, and I was also the oldest grandchild, so

830
00:46:25,806 --> 00:46:30,486
Speaker 4: for a while there were no other kids, and it

831
00:46:30,566 --> 00:46:33,526
Speaker 4: was just like once a year I would be reminded like, oh, right,

832
00:46:34,246 --> 00:46:37,326
Speaker 4: this is this is half of me. And they all

833
00:46:37,366 --> 00:46:41,526
Speaker 4: speak Spanish to each other and they love you know,

834
00:46:41,566 --> 00:46:43,686
Speaker 4: Tejano music, and this.

835
00:46:43,446 --> 00:46:48,366
Speaker 3: Is part of me. Slowly but surely, over the years, a.

836
00:46:48,326 --> 00:46:54,006
Speaker 4: Lot of the siblings started marrying off, and more white

837
00:46:54,046 --> 00:46:57,446
Speaker 4: people came into the mix, and it became sort of

838
00:46:57,446 --> 00:46:59,806
Speaker 4: a more more of a melting pot. And then cousins

839
00:46:59,806 --> 00:47:02,406
Speaker 4: started getting born, and we really are more of a

840
00:47:02,886 --> 00:47:06,926
Speaker 4: mixed a mixed bag. But but when I was very young,

841
00:47:07,166 --> 00:47:09,886
Speaker 4: not so much. You know, it was it was me

842
00:47:10,166 --> 00:47:14,606
Speaker 4: and my mom, who's about as Caucasian as you can be,

843
00:47:16,206 --> 00:47:21,006
Speaker 4: and then a family of Mexicans. And then you would

844
00:47:21,046 --> 00:47:23,766
Speaker 4: go home and we didn't speak Spanish in our household,

845
00:47:23,926 --> 00:47:28,206
Speaker 4: and you know, I grew up on an Air Force

846
00:47:28,286 --> 00:47:33,366
Speaker 4: base and there weren't a ton of other Latino children,

847
00:47:33,486 --> 00:47:36,806
Speaker 4: and you kind of would almost, you know, forget, you

848
00:47:36,846 --> 00:47:40,406
Speaker 4: just sort of normalize the fact that your life feels

849
00:47:41,246 --> 00:47:47,206
Speaker 4: more white than it does you know, Latino, mm hmm.

850
00:47:47,406 --> 00:47:49,286
Speaker 3: Until the next Christmas.

851
00:47:49,166 --> 00:47:53,126
Speaker 2: You know, right, right, No, exactly, That's what m J

852
00:47:53,206 --> 00:47:55,966
Speaker 2: and I we always talk about our backgrounds and how

853
00:47:55,966 --> 00:47:58,926
Speaker 2: we grew up. I mean we had you know, big

854
00:47:58,966 --> 00:48:02,206
Speaker 2: families and then you know, learning how to speak Spanish

855
00:48:02,246 --> 00:48:06,006
Speaker 2: and then some of the the traditions and such. But

856
00:48:06,686 --> 00:48:09,406
Speaker 2: you know, for us and even just the point of

857
00:48:09,446 --> 00:48:13,406
Speaker 2: this podcast is just we want to highlight the Latinos

858
00:48:13,406 --> 00:48:17,406
Speaker 2: who are out there, who are successful and who are

859
00:48:17,526 --> 00:48:22,646
Speaker 2: seen as an inspiration and looked upon for what they

860
00:48:22,726 --> 00:48:26,846
Speaker 2: do and how they've done it. And you certainly are that.

861
00:48:27,046 --> 00:48:30,606
Speaker 2: I mean, you honestly are killing it right now, have

862
00:48:30,766 --> 00:48:33,686
Speaker 2: been killing it. And this has just been such an

863
00:48:33,846 --> 00:48:39,166
Speaker 2: enlightening conversation. Just so generous of you to give us

864
00:48:39,206 --> 00:48:42,286
Speaker 2: the time to talk to us. We covered a lot today,

865
00:48:42,406 --> 00:48:43,766
Speaker 2: my friend, we covered a lot.

866
00:48:44,286 --> 00:48:47,766
Speaker 3: We kept real and honestly, look, the pleasure is mine.

867
00:48:48,206 --> 00:48:50,806
Speaker 4: You know what a huge football fan I am. I

868
00:48:50,846 --> 00:48:54,046
Speaker 4: think it's dope. As you're out there, you know, crushing

869
00:48:54,046 --> 00:48:56,286
Speaker 4: it in your own right. And I was happy to

870
00:48:56,326 --> 00:49:01,006
Speaker 4: come together and talk about being Latinos with you.

871
00:49:01,086 --> 00:49:06,886
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate it. Please come back again on

872
00:49:06,926 --> 00:49:10,606
Speaker 2: the lheld the podcast when we also have MJ as well.

873
00:49:10,686 --> 00:49:13,126
Speaker 2: I know she would love to talk to you as well,

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Speaker 2: and we can dissect more of the Titans, what we

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Speaker 2: think of their offense and Will Levis. Maybe you'll be

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Speaker 2: just say this guy ain't cutting it. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I'll be interested to.

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Speaker 4: See if he actually sees the field this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Tannehill stays healthy. And because that division is not great,

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Speaker 4: you know, as long as if we're striking distance from

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Speaker 4: like a wild card, I can't imagine him bringing in

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Speaker 4: the kid. But dude, as soon as we fall out

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Speaker 4: of it, I think you got to get him in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean why not and think about that

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Speaker 2: with the division of having Anthony Richardson potentially Will Levis right,

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Speaker 2: C J. Stroud, I mean he got some young guns

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Speaker 2: and then obviously Trevor Lawrence stack Man, right, Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: we could be looking at a bright future. Honestly, James,

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Speaker 2: this has been an absolute pleasure man, Honestly, come back again,

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Speaker 2: really proud of what you've been doing. And I really

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the combo.

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Speaker 3: Thanks again, appreciate it well, thank you, sir.

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