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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lowie. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and I don't often do this

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Speaker 2: with Matt. Yeah, yeah, but I gave him some homework

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Speaker 2: and now.

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Speaker 3: I got home in the dog days of summer.

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Speaker 2: I often just to pull back the curtain. We often

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Speaker 2: don't talk about ahead of time what we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about, right, because we want to show to be conversational,

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Speaker 2: like we're just hanging.

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Speaker 3: Out and talking about us and jolling out right.

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Speaker 2: But the conversation I wanted to have today is the

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Speaker 2: top twenty five most important Steelers going into the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five season. Yeah, and this might cover two segments.

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Speaker 3: Here, I bet it will. We've got a lot of

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Speaker 3: names to talk about. So I don't know what your

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Speaker 3: process was. This was mine. I took a blank Excel

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Speaker 3: spreadsheet and I just started writing the or jotting down

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Speaker 3: any name that I thought might be in the conversation,

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Speaker 3: knowing I had to get about half the roster on

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Speaker 3: there given take, you know, and then I put him

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Speaker 3: into three categories, A, B, and C. A's are really important.

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Speaker 3: C's are lower and important was a weird word to me.

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Speaker 3: I kind of looked at it like, who can you

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Speaker 3: at least afford to lose, you know, so kind of

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Speaker 3: like we did this last year. Pickens might not be

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Speaker 3: the best player, but he was a tough Lewis right

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Speaker 3: right right, I mean just on the roster construction. So

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Speaker 3: I ended up with twenty six names when I did that.

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Speaker 3: So my just missed was Johnston the punter. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: just missed for me, okay, because I think he's really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And people probably like, well, you're fine with weightman, but

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Speaker 3: if it's week two and weightman's playing for the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't do you any good. You got lucky with

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Speaker 3: weight man. Chances are not going to keep two and

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Speaker 3: have that backup.

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Speaker 2: Chances are a weight man, he's either going to get

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Speaker 2: scooped up if they have to release him, or somebody's

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Speaker 2: going to trade for him.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the plan. You could get a pick

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Speaker 3: out of him, wonderful, you know, even if it's a seven, right, okay,

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Speaker 3: better than nothing right, yeah, which I think you will.

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Speaker 3: I would give him a seventh for him in a heartbeat,

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Speaker 3: or and if I'm Omar, I'd try this trick. I'll

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Speaker 3: give you a seven and weight man for a six,

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Speaker 3: you know, right, you know that's that type of move.

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Speaker 3: So that's worth a roster spot just going into the camp,

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Speaker 2: So at twenty five, okay, I have Darnell Washington.

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Speaker 3: He's on my list, but I'm not too far away. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I have made some rude off. Let's do it this way. Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's go twenty through twenty five for each of us.

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Speaker 3: All right, give you your your bottom five then or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So at twenty I have Isaac Samlu okay. At twenty one,

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Speaker 2: I have Deshaun Elliott. Okay, twenty two I have Mason McCormick.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three is Caleb Johnson, twenty four is Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five? Do are not Washington?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Not very similar? Okay. I have a lot of

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Speaker 3: those names on the list. The guards aren't going to

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Speaker 3: be mentioned for a while because I worry about the depth,

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Speaker 3: not that they're the best players. That's a hard thing

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Speaker 2: I don't worry so much about depth of guard as

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Speaker 3: If I were to lose one. I mean you'll see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to lose one, teerer guys, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Whose both of them at the same time, that would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with that logic, maybe I have those two a

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Speaker 3: Wilson did not make my list. Washington was twenty three. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he plays a lot of snaps. He does. I mean

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Speaker 3: I have twenty three. I have Elliott at twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, that was my thinking.

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Speaker 3: I think Elliott's a really good player. You know, I

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Speaker 2: He's on my list, I'm higher, I get it.

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Speaker 3: But another that's another one, Wilson and Elliott. I kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could live with a whole thinking with with

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Speaker 3: So I do a mail bag on my DK podcast

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Speaker 3: and for some reason a million people ask me today

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Speaker 3: about Wilson and Queen and Hulcombe. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: linebackers are on everybody's mind, but a lot of people

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Speaker 2: The other thing is that you know Holcomb can also.

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Speaker 3: Do it exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: I find it interesting you didn't have Roman Wilson on there.

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Speaker 2: Did you have Caleb Johnson on your twenty five?

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Speaker 3: He's coming up? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So I had Roman Wilson on my twenty five because

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Speaker 3: I didn't because I don't know this second that he's

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Speaker 3: I think he will. I hope he will, you know,

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Speaker 3: But is there a difference there? I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 2: I just think he's he I mean, he's a former

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Speaker 2: third round pick. They had plans for him when they

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Mini camp was impressive, but he should be

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Speaker 2: So I just think that that's That's where I'm at

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Speaker 2: At sixteen, I have Calvin Austin Okay. Seventeen I have

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Speaker 3: Wow, we don't have a lot of correlation here, So

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Speaker 3: make my list, okay, okay. At nineteen I had Caleb Johnson. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Haven't him at twenty three. At eighteen, I had Queen Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have him a little higher, which I get, and

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Speaker 2: hope he's indispensable because he's playing so well. But I

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Speaker 2: I have Warren Okay, I have him and Johnson pretty close.

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Speaker 3: I have him higher, okay. And then fifteen sixteen was

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Speaker 3: Ciamalu McCormick. Okay, And if I were to redo this,

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Speaker 2: And it's not all about who you can live without.

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Speaker 3: That's why I haven't mentioned the first round pick yet. Okay,

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Speaker 3: why you did have Wilson though, you know Roman a

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Speaker 2: The state, and I had Calvin Austin is sixteen. I

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Speaker 2: know you had him lower, just because right now he's.

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Speaker 3: The two pretty important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think he took a big

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Speaker 3: I like where he's at in his career. Arc. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not a knock on him. I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well again, I kind of said, I don't know who's

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Speaker 3: ahead of Wilson and Woods. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that your three receiver set would be terrible with those

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Speaker 3: two in Metcalf compared to be worse. All these guys

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Speaker 2: Let's do our top. I guess I would let's.

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Speaker 3: Not go to let's do after ten like eleven and

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Speaker 3: the lower so eleven through fourteen. I have Jalen Woard

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Speaker 3: have a lot of overlap here. Eleven, I have Roderick

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Speaker 3: Jones okay, and I wanted to put him higher, but

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Speaker 3: I have him much higher, which I understood, But I

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Speaker 3: just think everyone above him on this list is noticeably

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Speaker 2: That wasn't necessarily what we're looking for.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, but if he's my worst of

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Speaker 3: my five offensive, things don't go well for him, and

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. We're going through our top five

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lowie. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and we're going through our top twenty

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Speaker 2: We've given you our eleven through twenty five. Do we

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Quickly?

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Speaker 2: Not go ahead and give your eleven through twenty five.

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Speaker 3: All right, eleven, Roderick Jones twelve, Boswell thirteen, Benton fourteen, Harmon.

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Speaker 3: You see I clustered them, and then I clustered Siamalu

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Speaker 2: So I have at eleven, Jaylen Warren, twelve, Patrick Queen thirteen,

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's a fair amount of differences. So yeah, we

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Speaker 3: on this at all elaborate. Let's not do five at

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Speaker 2: So at ten, I have Chris Boswell.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I had him at twelve, so that's actually quite close.

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Speaker 2: At nine, I have Alex Highsmith.

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Speaker 3: I do too. Oh that's the first one I think

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Speaker 2: At eight, I have Pat Fryarmouth.

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Speaker 3: Okay. At seven, I forgot Friarmuth. He's on my list.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's stupid. I put Washington on there, but I

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Speaker 3: because he should be right in this neighborhood. Oh, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I gave you one, you give me one job.

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Speaker 2: And it's in a team that uses three tight ends.

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Speaker 3: So right right, Okay, Well, I'm gonna he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: It's seven.

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Speaker 3: They don't grow on trees.

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Speaker 2: They don't grow into trees. Yes, you can move Fulton

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Speaker 3: I valued corners more than you did. You valued tackles

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't discount We're not saying those guys aren't important,

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Speaker 3: more better than Kaz could you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Things like that, if they were to add a receiver,

433
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Speaker 3: would it change things to you? Like a true number two?

434
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Speaker 3: It depends on who he is. Yeah, yeah, I guess

435
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Speaker 3: that's on an easy conversation. If it's Amari Cooper something

436
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: like that, would Austin still be on your list? But

437
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Speaker 3: Roman Wilson, I think Austin would. I don't regret not

438
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Speaker 3: having Roman Wilson off.

439
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Speaker 2: But he was a just missed because the other thing

440
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Speaker 2: that Austin does is he's your punt returner and he

441
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Speaker 2: gives you know, some explosiveness there.

442
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, that has value. It's an interesting conversation. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So just going over the top twenty five lists as

444
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Speaker 2: a whole. At one, I have Cam Hayward two, TJ

445
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Watt three, DK metcalf four, Roger Jones five, Make Fitzpatrick six,

446
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers seven, Troy Otane. I value those tackles a lot,

447
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: and we really, you know, they need those two guys

448
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: to hit Matt.

449
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: They're the biggest two of the biggest X factors on

450
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Speaker 3: the team without questions. Yeah, well he makes that important. Yeah. Eight.

451
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: I have Pat Fararmouth nine, Alex Highsmith ten, Chris Boswell eleven,

452
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Speaker 2: Jaylen Warren twelve, Patrick Queen thirteen, Joey Porter Jr. Fourteen,

453
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Speaker 2: Zach Frasier fifteen, Keanu Benton sixteen, Calvin Austin seventeen, Darius

454
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Speaker 2: Slay eighteen, Peyton Wilson nineteen, Derek Harmon twenty, Isaac Saamalou

455
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Speaker 2: twenty one, Deshaun Elliott twenty two, Mason McCormick, twenty three,

456
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Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, twenty four, Roman Wilson, and twenty five Darnell Washington.

457
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Speaker 3: I wonder how many names you have that I don't

458
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Speaker 3: and I have that you don't. I know, Roman Wilson's

459
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: one that you don't or that I don't have on

460
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Speaker 3: my list. Well, now that you're bumping Mason Rudolph off, yes,

461
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: and it's only one, then I must have somebody you don't. Oh,

462
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: Herbig didn't make your list? My list all right? Mine

463
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: one through twenty five Rogers, cam Watt, Metcalf, Porter, Minka Faltanu, Frasier,

464
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Speaker 3: high Smith, slayh Roderck Jones, Friarmouth, Boz Benton, Harmon, Ciamalu, McCormick, Warren, Queen,

465
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Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson, Herbig, Peyton Wilson, Elliott, Washington, Austin Rudolph, and Johnston.

466
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: Got the poop, got the boot because you screwed up

467
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: the assignment I did.

468
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Speaker 3: On the on the tight ends. I was mad at

469
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Speaker 3: myself at the very end, I'm like, I forgot about

470
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: Washington he should be on there, and didn't even think

471
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Speaker 3: of the guy ahead him on the depth chart. Yeah.

472
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Speaker 3: I even pulled up our lads, like like I needed

473
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Speaker 3: for this team, you know, like I don't want to

474
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: miss anybody. You don't miss anybody again, missed all the

475
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: tight ends. Yeah, yeah, it happens.

476
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: But it's a it's an interesting list, And I think

477
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Speaker 2: if you did this assignment for a lot of teams,

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd come up with twenty five

479
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: players as good as he's twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like the fact that I might even

481
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: giving a hard time for not having Herbig on there.

482
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Speaker 3: Herbig's them. It's a really good player. I mean, it's

483
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Speaker 3: one of the better edge pass rushers in the league.

484
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Speaker 3: You know Conston, yeah, Exactually he might be the best

485
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: punter in the league, you know, right, Like you would struggle.

486
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Speaker 2: To come up with twenty five you'd be naming.

487
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Speaker 3: Starters right right, right, But like, I'm sure the Ravens

488
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: could come up with twenty five easy. Bengals and Browns

489
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: not so much so much. I mean, obviously important means

490
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: a lot, but that doesn't mean the players is.

491
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Speaker 2: Good, right, you know what I mean, Like, I'm just

492
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: talking about the quality of player that's on that list.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point.

494
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: When we talk about, you know, overall, the overall roster,

495
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about. This is a quality roster.

496
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: It is if you get twenty five high quality players

497
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: that are going to play a ton of snaps, that

498
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: in itself has value. Yeah right. I would bet almost

499
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: every team has all five offensive linemen listed. Yeah, unless

500
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: you're like really bad at like well, now I think

501
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: about it, No, because some teams are so bad at

502
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: right guard that three guys are competing for the spot.

503
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: They all stink, And what's the difference who wins it?

504
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Right? Maybe the fact that

505
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: you have all five O linemen is like, well, thest

506
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 3: we have something that not anybody else does. You know,

507
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: last year, the old line would have been an interesting one,

508
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: Like would her Big have been on there at that

509
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: point he was a starting center, you know, Daniels would

510
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: have McCormick probably wouldn't have made it. You would think

511
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: foul Tawnu and Fraser would be on there. Like every year,

512
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: your first and second round pick would probably make it.

513
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: You know, Steeers gonna have a second round pick this year.

514
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: I wonder if you do this every year, how many

515
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: rookies make it too? I mean always, I would think

516
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: the first round picks is going to be in your

517
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Speaker 3: top twenty.

518
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Speaker 2: Five, right right, So interesting little way to look at things.

519
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: We do this pretty much every year.

520
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: But it's like power ranks, so I urge our listeners

521
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: give it a try, right right. Yeah, it's not just

522
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: who's the best player, you know, don't just give me

523
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: their PFF grades or some nonsense, you know what I like?

524
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put some thought into it, wor right? What

525
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: do they mean to the team?

526
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

527
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: What does the position mean to the team?

528
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it something you could find on the streets

529
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: and live with, you know, or bump up Harrison and

530
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: then find a guy in the street to be his guys.

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Speaker 3: That's why I had.

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Speaker 2: For example, the tackles ahead of the cornerbacks. Yeah, you

533
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: can find street level free agent cornerbacks who can go

534
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: out there and be a.

535
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's still one of the rarer positions though.

536
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not safety your linebacker, it's not.

537
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: But you know, there are lots of reclamation projects at cornerback.

538
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: There's at least somebody on the street right this minute.

539
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: There's so much fluctuation from year to year. Yeah, at

540
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: the position tackles, you have it or you don't, right.

541
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Speaker 3: All right, you couldn't get one today. No, you know,

542
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: you could get a corner that would that will end

543
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: up in the league, yeah, you know, or even make

544
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: a trade.

545
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's nobody to strain you a tackle

546
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: now start.

547
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Speaker 3: They don't get traded, right, yeah, right right, No, the

548
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: tackles are the rare spot.

549
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Speaker 1: In the world.

550
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's quiet theory. Yeah. Anyways, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: That was fun. It is he is Matt Williamson. I

552
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Speaker 2: am Dale Lolli. You're listening to the Drive. You're on

553
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

554
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Speaker 2: more right after.

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Speaker 1: This at He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

556
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Speaker 1: Williams on your twenty four to seven home of the

557
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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt the two Ohio teams. Yeah,

560
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: both angling for some they have some stadium issues going on.

561
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, We've been talking about that a lot this week.

562
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: So Cleveland had in that county, Ogi County the art

563
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Modell Law, which which said that.

564
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: Basically if.

565
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 2: The team was going to be sold or how did

566
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: it work, if the team was going to be sold,

567
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: they had to offer or move I should say, they

568
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: had to offer the team to up for sale. You

569
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: had to put the team.

570
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: Up for sale they want to move. Okay, a law

571
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: because of what happened with art Modell. For you people

572
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: are too young. They left in the middle ofite basically

573
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: became in the Baltimore. They let them.

574
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: They knew a year ahead of time that they were leaving.

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00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: So the Ohio legislator legislation, I should say, passed a

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Speaker 2: law as part of an amendment to the state state

577
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: budgets that will allow Ohio pro sports team who play

578
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: in tax supported facilities to move within Ohio when their

579
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Speaker 2: leases expire.

580
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: So they could go to Acrid or Columbus or something

581
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: like that.

582
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Speaker 2: As we know, the Browns and they're supposed to complete

583
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: the purchase today, have bought our buying land in suburban

584
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: brook Park, which is out by the on the western side.

585
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: Of the city, and.

586
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: They want to build an indoor stadium. Yes, the city

587
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: of the Cleveland was fighting them on this because that's

588
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: not in city limits or that's not in the city.

589
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's still be called the Cleveland Browns. Yeah,

590
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: but right, right, right, it's kind of like a Giants

591
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: in Jersey thing, right, Well, it's not not out of state. Yeah,

592
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of football teams who

593
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: are called whatever aren't in the downtown.

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Speaker 3: They're not the Foxborough Patriots, right right, right, right, So

595
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: basically the legal issue has been removed because they're staying within.

596
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: They're staying within, yeah, right, so they.

597
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: There's no loopholes or whatever, so they're going to do

598
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: it right. Cincinnati also has an.

599
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: Issue Cincinnati's leases up with pay Court Stadium, but according

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Speaker 2: to Jason Williams of the Cincinnati Enquirer, they have a

601
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: deal in place to keep the club playing at Baykoor

602
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: Stadium at least until the mid twenty thirties.

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Speaker 3: Okay, these conversations are hard for me because I don't

604
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 3: understand legislation. I live under a rock. I only know

605
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: about football. If you are leasing the state, okay, you're

606
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: the county that Cincinnati's in, or you're the city of Cincinnati.

607
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: So talk to me like, I'm a first grader and

608
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: I have this stadium and I'm leasing it to the

609
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. If the Bengals decide they no longer want

610
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: to be my occupant, what goods the stadium going to

611
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: do me anymore? Not a lot? Yeah? Okay, I mean

612
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: like Springsteen comes down and great, I put him in there.

613
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 2: But maybe Cincinnati, you know, the University of Cincinnati, Yeah,

614
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: would use it or whatever.

615
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: But I mean really only have like one client, I guess,

616
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: is my point. It is like largely how could they

617
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: not make a deal, you know what I mean? Or

618
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't the team hold more power in this situation.

619
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Speaker 2: Like well, unless you can get somebody else to build

620
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: you a new one where you have plans to build

621
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Speaker 2: a new one. The lease was set to expire after

622
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Speaker 2: this season, which is why that was such a pressing issue.

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Speaker 3: But back to your original conversation, Bengals in the city

624
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: can't come to a conclusion they want to move the

625
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: Bengals to Saint Louis. They couldn't have done it before

626
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: they would have to put them up for sale. First. No,

627
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: that was that was a Cleveland room, a lot Okay,

628
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: that's on the Ohio rule. I don't believe, okay, okay, okay,

629
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Speaker 3: So they could move them to Saint Louis if they wanted, Yeah, okay, okay,

630
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: I just didn't know who has the rights to do

631
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Speaker 3: those things. I mean, the league would have to approve it.

632
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bengals had. The Bengals had until June thirtieth

633
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: to extend their current lease. Okay, so they're running out

634
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: of time on this. I just wonder how negotiations go.

635
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: It's kind of like I have this car and there's

636
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: only one person can drive it.

637
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

638
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: So at the same time, you know, the teams always

639
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: want upgrades, Yeah, things of that nature.

640
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: There's things that you want, like Soldier Field got a

641
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: massive facelift that I'm sure the Bears didn't pay entirely for. Yeah.

642
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: So in five years, we expect the Browns will be

643
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: playing in a dome in a different community near Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: in the Cleveland suburbs and Cincinnati, probably to be in

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Speaker 3: the same building. Yeah, maybe with some innovations.

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Speaker 2: I think the Brown Stadium is set to open in

647
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm just guessing on five years. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: down the Rock. I mean, that's going to be their

650
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Speaker 3: long term home sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: But neither are moving out of the state of Ohio, gotcha,

652
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: which also can be called the state of confusion.

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Speaker 3: Any mixed feelings about a dome in Cleveland. I don't

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: like it. I assume they look at it like we

655
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: can get a Super Bowl. Now. I don't know how

656
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: much money that matters, but it has to be pretty big. Yeah,

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: I mean I would at least have a retractable they could,

658
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't know that I see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they just.

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Speaker 2: Every year the super Bowl, right, but every year we

661
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about it all the time. There

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00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: are a couple of games in Cleveland that are weather

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Speaker 2: affected in a major way.

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Speaker 3: Massively, maybe more than any city in the in the league,

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Speaker 3: because it's right on the lake, right right, and it

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00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 3: hits you quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're moving Inland.

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Speaker 3: I guess they wouldn't be right on the not right

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Speaker 3: on the lake anymore. I'm sure wind will be less

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Speaker 3: of an issue then like that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm sure they're looking at this as

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Speaker 2: well from a parking standpoint. Oh that's you know, getting

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Speaker 2: in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not the Cleveland Stadium

674
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: was the Brown Stadium was tough to get in and

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Speaker 2: out of. It could be, but the parking city parking

676
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Speaker 2: situations not great.

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Speaker 3: Really. I would say that I had an employee spot,

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Speaker 3: i'dn't have to worry about that. But I mean, I

679
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Speaker 3: don't know that park.

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Speaker 2: You're parking right along the lake in the winter time, Oh.

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Speaker 3: It had to be horrible walking and out and that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: There were times when I saw the waves in the wintertime,

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Speaker 2: like the first two rows that park right along the lake.

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Speaker 2: Those cars were covered in a sheet of.

686
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Speaker 3: Ice and ice water splash lake. Wow. Totally different conversation.

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Speaker 3: Well not totally, but some of them people out there

688
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: want to revoke my Pittsburgh tough guy weather card. But

689
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Speaker 3: I kind of think Green Bay, Minnesota, Cleveland, Buffalo in

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Speaker 3: a perfect world should have a retractable roof that if

691
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Speaker 3: the day you were up there, when you couldn't even

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Speaker 3: get out of your hotel room, put the roof up.

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Speaker 2: But the problem that comes, Okay, you can put the

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Speaker 2: roof up, but fans can't get to the game.

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Speaker 3: Well there, I guess that's that point too, right.

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Speaker 2: And if you put the roof up, did you get

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00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: so much snow. But the game happened either way, but

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Speaker 2: it happened a couple of days later because nobody could

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Speaker 2: get there.

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Speaker 3: Nobody could get there, So that particular day that they

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Speaker 3: played the game, it wasn't the craziest weather ever.

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00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: No cleaning up after the weather, Like what if Minnesota

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Speaker 2: didn't have a dome.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that to be humanly health, Okay,

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Speaker 3: to play some of the games.

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Speaker 2: When I was up there for the week for the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I don't know that the temperature ever got

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Speaker 2: out of the out of these single digits, and oftentimes

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Speaker 2: it was negative.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I bet yeah. And I bet that's not their

711
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Speaker 3: most difficult December January on record either. No, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's way worse, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, but the Browns and Bengals both staying in

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Speaker 2: their respective cities.

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Speaker 3: Brown's definitely with a new building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's get to another break. That's going to

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Speaker 2: do it for our number one of the drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

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Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this