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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio, and welcome back to the Drive. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and well, Matt,

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Speaker 2: it's time to do exactly what Bob Blabriola doesn't want to.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about We're gonna use the

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Speaker 2: Pro Footballnetwork dot Com drafter today, just a little different

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Speaker 2: look in there. And we're up at twenty one with

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Speaker 2: our mark draft today.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna say Russell Wilson's our quarterback? Okay, there's somebody,

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Speaker 3: but somebody's somebody that's a veteran. Okay, we got a

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Speaker 3: veteran quarterback. We got Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: We don't need a quarterback, but if we'd like to

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Speaker 2: have one, but we don't need one, all right, So

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Speaker 2: we're up at twenty one. I'm just gonna go through

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Speaker 2: the picture before us, just to give you idea. What's

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Speaker 2: their Cam Woard, Travis Hunter, Membo Abdul Carter, will Johnson,

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Speaker 2: Mason Graham, Shadur Sanders, Shamar Stewart, Will Campbell Ashton, genty

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Speaker 2: Tat McMillan, Mike kel Williams, Kelvin Banks, Tyler Booker, Tyler Warren,

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Speaker 2: James Pierce, Malachi Starks, Derek Harmon, Nick Emuwari and Matthew

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Speaker 2: Golden are gone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, didn't. I mean it's hard to pay pay attention

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Speaker 3: or keep tracked. But I did not hear Grant's name. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a good start.

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Speaker 2: You did not hear Grant's name. You did not hear

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Speaker 2: Walter Nolan's name. You did not even hear Tyler Williams name.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, which would be a fallback option, Alexander and right,

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Speaker 3: So I mean there are d lymen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So we do have a trade offer.

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Speaker 2: We've got two. Actually, the bills are on the phone.

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Speaker 2: They're offering thirty and sixty two for twenty one. Fair

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Speaker 2: that would get us back into the Sacondah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Buccaneers are offering fifty three, eighty four, next year's

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Speaker 2: two and next year's three for pick twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I if I'm moving back, I wanted I

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Speaker 2: got to get it.

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Speaker 3: I want to be within ten picks.

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Speaker 2: I got to recoup that second round pick. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: even getting an early third round pick, as we said, sure,

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Speaker 2: you know, for make up for what we lost with

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Speaker 2: the deal for DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't want to get into this too

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Speaker 3: heavy with Labs, but I think the value of this

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Speaker 3: draft is day two. Yeah, and yeah, I'm with them too.

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Speaker 3: I want a difference maker d Lineman as bad as anybody.

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Speaker 3: But there's a bunch of them. There's you know, right

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Speaker 3: right right now.

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Speaker 2: If I had to move back to thirty and instead

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Speaker 2: take Darius Alexander, I'm still good.

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Speaker 3: With that, right right right. He was one of the names.

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Speaker 3: Like when I moved back to that Browns pick, It's like, well,

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Speaker 3: I could live with him. And then two picks later

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Speaker 3: I took a nose too. So like I've attacked the

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Speaker 3: D line pretty heavy, right, we might do too. So

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Speaker 3: you want to take the Bill's offer? Can we get

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Speaker 3: more out of them? Probably not on this one. They

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Speaker 3: don't usually, Okay, Yeah, I'm fine with that. If i'm them,

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Speaker 3: I might come up for Grant, but.

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Speaker 2: That might be who they were trying to come up with.

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Speaker 2: We have another offer here, but we're just going to

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Speaker 2: reject that because we're going to pick so they came

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Speaker 2: up to get actually Chavon Revel.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, if he's healthy, he's going to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're the only ones Skett player that had him in

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Speaker 3: the first I think he's as talented as pretty much

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Speaker 2: He is a really good player.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. Need to get cleared.

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Speaker 2: G Hud Campbell went, Eggca went, Gray's Abel went, Johnny

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Speaker 2: Barron went, Colston Lovelin went, Josh Simmons went, Nick Scurton went,

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Walker went take Grant, You take Grant. Yeah that

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Speaker 2: worked out great, fantastic, and we recouped our second round pick.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, if the pick before that, our one right

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Speaker 3: here would have been Grant and we end up with Nolan. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: but this is better, right, Yeah, that worked out fall.

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Speaker 2: This one goes to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like it all right.

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Speaker 2: We are now up at sixty two. Okay, top player

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Speaker 2: available Jackson Dart, who they have as their forty fifth

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Speaker 2: ranked player, which is why I'm not on we're taking

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Speaker 3: It right right, right, and with the intention of I'm

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Speaker 2: He's gonna learn how to call plays and stuff. Oh

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Speaker 3: Be a nice edition.

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Speaker 2: He might be a little light to play in this defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean it'd be a nice value at that point,

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Speaker 2: He's a one hundred and seventy nine pounds cornerback of

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Speaker 2: but good player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Mbow the offensive tackle letter Purdue, Isaiah Bond. You

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Speaker 2: don't need that now. Tate Ratlets to guard out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Jenkins is there. Darius Alexander is still there.

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Speaker 3: He's different than Grant. He's different really attacking the D line.

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Speaker 2: Darian Porter is there, Treveon Henderson is there. Jalen Noel

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Speaker 2: tackle out of Texas. We already have one of those noses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some guys there that I think it comes

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Speaker 3: down to four names for me. Okay Alexander Okay, either

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's those four guys.

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Speaker 2: Now we pick again at eighty three. This is pick

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Speaker 3: What's a little weird about this one is if we're

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Speaker 3: going to double down on d line, usually the second

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Speaker 3: part of doubling down is the nose. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: to find an Alexander replace him. The thing that Grant's

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Speaker 3: that's why I like him more than Nolan. That's why

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Speaker 3: I like him, you know, number one for that situation.

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Speaker 2: And when I say, when I say he can do both,

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking. You're going to play him as a

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Speaker 2: three four defensive end. They play like twenty five percent

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Speaker 2: of their snaps into three four. When they're in a

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Speaker 2: three to four, he's going to be on the nose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But when they're in their nickel and dime, when they

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Speaker 3: Line up anywhere between the tackles. Yeah, He's not gonna

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Speaker 2: I think he's perfect for that.

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Speaker 3: Grant, yes, okay, again you could take another nose, but

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Speaker 3: that I don't know that we're doing that. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to do that, you do that

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Speaker 2: in the sixth round or something like that. Somebody's there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just can't believe he's still there. That's the the

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Speaker 2: Timmins Woodley draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if we had Nolan not Grant, then third round

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at noses still. But you know, so that

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Speaker 3: makes me have Alexander in this mix because well, you're

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Speaker 3: really attacking that. I like both Ohio State running backs,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know. I like both the Highsted running

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Speaker 2: Let me just see how many running what else is

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of running. So you

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Speaker 2: got Judkins, Treveon Henderson, DJ Giddens at a K State,

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Speaker 2: I should say, out of a Virginia tech Oli Gordon Damian Martinez.

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Speaker 2: So there are some backs there at the defensive tenn.

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Speaker 3: There always will be, yeah, but they're not as good

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Speaker 2: Course, Darius Alexander defensive tackle out at Toledo, Alfred Collins

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle out of Texas, Omar Norman Lott defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: They're all defensive tackles out of Tennessee, Schmart Turner aut

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Speaker 3: My point is, though, if we don't go detackle here,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure we will until the end of the

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Speaker 3: draft or at all. Right, you know, which is fine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we got the guy we wanted. We but

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Speaker 3: if you really want to attack that part of yours,

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Speaker 3: it's the beauty if you.

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Speaker 2: Get Grant he kills two birds with one stone, or

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Speaker 2: potentially does he does right, and I can then afford

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Speaker 2: to take a guy later who is just a nose

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Speaker 3: I still think Alexander is my vote.

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Speaker 2: I can't argue with you, and that the only way

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Speaker 2: I would like. I do think there's a I think

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Speaker 2: there's three backs still available, and then there's.

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Speaker 3: Act the other one yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Then there's a little bit of line of delineation.

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Speaker 3: And then you're either you know, then they're just okay,

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Speaker 3: you might take two right or whatever. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure if taking two is still work.

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Speaker 2: But I think Alexander stands above these other defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: Guys, and there's one of those A badass trench team

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Speaker 3: for a lot of years. This is how you do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, and that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 3: I mean to me, that completes the defense. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I agree done on defense. If with these two picks,

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Speaker 3: I agree, someone's insanely that shouldn't be there, you know.

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Speaker 2: Darius Alexander it is. OK. Let's see if any of

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Speaker 2: those backs make it to us here at eighty three,

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Speaker 2: Bronco's on the phone. We're gonna reject trade offers. At

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Speaker 2: this point. We made our one trade.

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Speaker 3: Then I wasn't super thrilled about taking my third string

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Speaker 3: quarterback at that point either.

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Speaker 2: Guess who is still available here? Top player still on

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Speaker 2: the board. Okay, when Sean Judkins.

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Speaker 3: I think you run the podium then absolutely, and these

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Speaker 3: backs will fall. Yeah, you know, like I think I

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Speaker 3: had like the sixty six pick in that mock that

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Speaker 3: Labs was talking about, and people ask me, you know

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Speaker 3: what percent of chance he gets there? And I thought forty.

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Speaker 3: I mean he could go early mid two. But how

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Speaker 3: many teams are taking aback with their first two picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not that many. Okay, So we're now up at one

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Speaker 3: twenty three and the needs are filled.

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Speaker 2: The needs are yeah, right, the needs are filled. Now

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Speaker 2: we can look quarterback. Yeah, now we can look offensive

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Speaker 3: I always like in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Now, maybe a cornerback to throw into the mix, which

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Speaker 2: you're pretty if it's a good one. Yeah, top guys

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't turn my nose up at a good receiver too,

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Speaker 3: but usually there aren't good receivers in this neighborhood anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually that's pretty right up, it's pretty thin. The

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Speaker 2: Curtis Rourke, Max Brosmer, Brady Cook, cam Miller. Okay, most

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Speaker 3: I'd go that direction, Lunt, Grant.

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Speaker 2: We have would talk much about Nelson Wisconsin. Said it before,

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Speaker 3: No scouting. The helmet's not a bad thing with that instance,

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Speaker 2: Right, he's like six seven three twenty Yeah. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: played he's played guard, he's played tackle.

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Speaker 3: And he might need to be a guard in a year.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. Yeah, I wouldn't object that at all. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if you would take him here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so. Quincy Riley cornerback out of Louisville, Jacob

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Speaker 2: Tommy Hill from Nebraska, Jabar Mohammed from Oregon, Noel Williams

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Speaker 3: There's quite a few of those I like. I don't

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Speaker 2: Or would you take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Elgersma, oh yeah, I'm fine with that too. You need

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Speaker 3: however he gets there seventh round or later. Take your time,

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Speaker 3: a nice army. Oh I'd love to bring him to

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Speaker 3: CAP Yeah, size the whole deal. Which, Hey, if we

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Speaker 3: I'd be fine with that too.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to do here?

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Speaker 3: O line? Okay, what do you like? We take Grant

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Speaker 3: all the time, and he doesn't have the same first

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Speaker 3: name as our first round pick, but we could take

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Speaker 3: any of the alignment.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Holland Pierce is good, yeah, which conn Nelson

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Speaker 2: would be fine. I think Colin Pierce is a pure tackle.

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Speaker 2: I don't see him kicking inside at all. Jackson Jackson

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Speaker 2: Slater is there from Sacramento State.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this player might have to be a starting guard

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Speaker 2: If you're looking at that thing this year, Jackson Slater

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a problem.

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Speaker 2: Or it could be Grant and you kick Grant inside.

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Speaker 2: But Slater's actually done it, had a good Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to fight on any of them. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna hopefully doesn't play a tackle at all. For

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Speaker 3: you this year, but injuries happened and development and guys,

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Speaker 3: is what I want to do, seemal who might leave

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Speaker 3: and bring you back a fourth round compic next year?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, who do you want to take care Pierced Lunt,

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Speaker 2: Grant Wedding, Rivers, Nelson.

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Speaker 3: Not Rivers. I don't know Rivers as a tackle. They

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Speaker 3: think Nelson for something different or Okay, again, that's the

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Speaker 3: fact that what we're taking on is here is a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in this instance, all right, we're back up now

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Speaker 2: three big guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're done there. Yeah. I considered receiver, I consider quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I consider Receiver's not great here, there were some corners

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Speaker 3: that weren't bad names.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, corners a little deeper. So you get Jabar Mohammad

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Speaker 2: out of Western Kentucky, Justin Wally out of Minnesota, Jalen

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Speaker 3: I like Frasier, I like uh Stout. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if do we need another little little corner. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's probably a gunner. Like the second name there,

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Speaker 3: who I'm forgetting. No Williams, No Williams. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 2: Fraser is the freakiest athlete of that group, I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that thought that he could be here

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Speaker 3: this year Trice where two years behind him. He's got upside.

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Speaker 3: Maybe in a year from now he's pushing for a

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Speaker 2: Let me just see the top rated players. Well, Jamari

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Speaker 2: Calbwell is still there, but we're not taking any but

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Speaker 2: JJ Pegas is still there.

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Speaker 3: You know, the beauty of this class.

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Speaker 2: Shuck is still there.

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Speaker 3: Stealing.

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard is still there. Seth McLaughlin the center out

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Speaker 2: This was the defense. Yeah, cal McCord is still there.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like McCord. I mean, I think he

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Speaker 3: has some Rudolph similarities. I mean, I I don't know

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Speaker 3: but he'll sit back there and rip it. I'm fine

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Speaker 3: with McCord.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take McCord here, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'd love to see a lot of preseason

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Speaker 3: snaps from man Cal McCord.

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Speaker 2: It is, and we're back now at one eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Elijah Roberts, Simon Barrow defensive tackle out of Miami and

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Speaker 2: Nis Peebles out of Virginia Tech. Mitch Evans a tight

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Speaker 2: end out of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Camp Mitch Evans.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a little redundant at this point.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking here. Tim Smith is still there, like

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Speaker 3: there's there's always the tackles. The tackles are just so deep.

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Speaker 3: Two we got her, big time, dude.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Zoh Frasier is still there. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he does not do anything all year, probably,

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Speaker 3: but slave is unlikely to be back, right, who knows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, all right, Now we're up at two twenty

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Speaker 2: nine and bj Adams cornerback at a UCA F Caleb

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Speaker 2: Ransaw cornerback out of Tulane, Mac Williams cornerback. I guess

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Speaker 2: I'm just scrolled on cornerbacks. Cam Jackson is still there,

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle out of Florida. Patrick Jenkins defensive tackle out

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Speaker 2: Jacob Gideon center out of Western Michigan.

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Speaker 3: B J.

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Speaker 2: Adams, cornerback at UCF onlook outside linebacker here.

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Speaker 3: It is a deep edge class and there is a

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Speaker 3: spot that you could throw one in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has some special team potential, So Johnny Walker

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Speaker 2: edge at of Missouri, Baron Soyl Sorell edge rusher out

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Speaker 2: of Texas. R j Oben edge rusher at a Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Amaud Hassen out of Boise State, Elijah Austin out of Miami, Florida,

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Speaker 2: Joshen Davis from Wake Forest, Ethan Downs from Oklahoma, Elijah

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Speaker 2: love any of those names.

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Speaker 3: Sorell's the one I know and like the most, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's the next Turbig or high Smith.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is the Notre Dame tight end still there this round?

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Speaker 3: We were just something with that?

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Speaker 2: Or is that that was the last round and he

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Speaker 2: is not Gavin Bartholomew, Cayden Preks PRIs scorn, Benjamin, You're.

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Speaker 3: Sick I'm gonna scat back.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't be the worst idea.

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Speaker 3: I know. We got Judkins. But you know gatingwell type.

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Speaker 2: Lea Quinn Allen is there, Trevor at n I would.

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Speaker 3: Take one of those two guys. I think they're NFL players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take Lea Quinn Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's a good receiver.

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Speaker 2: Need two guys return kicks.

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Speaker 3: Figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you're not gonna have Judkins probably return your.

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Speaker 3: Number one back. Yeah, he's gonna take enough of beating

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Speaker 3: it throughout the course.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we are now complete, and we got to

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Speaker 2: trade it back for Kenneth. Got Kenneth Grant. Okay, that

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Speaker 2: bar worked out wonderful. Maybe that's realistic, maybe it's not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's crazy his nose. At sixty two,

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Speaker 2: we got Darius Alexander, so we doubled down on defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: At eighty three, we got Quinn Shawn Judkins. At one

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Speaker 2: twenty three. We took Jack Nelson, the offensive tackle out

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Speaker 2: of Wisconsin. We got Cal McCord at one fifty six,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback out of Syracuse, Zah Frasier developmental cornerback out

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Speaker 2: of UTSA at one eighty five, big size speed prospect,

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Speaker 2: and then Laquin Allen, running back out of Syracuse in

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Speaker 3: Thing with like a laquin Allen is I think most

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Speaker 3: I mean just there's so many bad value, right, and

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Speaker 3: maybe doesn't do anything this year. Maybe Warren's not back

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Speaker 3: next year, you know. I mean, like, you don't know,

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Speaker 3: you don't know, right, he's a good football player. The

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Speaker 3: you're getting late. Yeah, I don't hate it. It's not

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Speaker 3: my favorite one.

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Speaker 2: Get on, I think there's value. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: have favorite ones now that we traded that. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: traded away that second round pick.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, it's awfully difficulty ad Metcalf to that pack, like,

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Speaker 3: oh that was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think if you were able to pull

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Speaker 2: way back to thirty, maybe it's back five spots or

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Speaker 2: four spots, and you can pull something like this off

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Speaker 2: where you reacquire either again a second round pick or

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Speaker 3: Just if you end up with two thirds, and then

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Speaker 3: you take one of those thirds and next year's third

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Speaker 3: and move up into the middle of two.

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Speaker 2: Give you that, right.

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Speaker 3: It's always hard to trade.

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Speaker 2: Up in these because you also know that you have

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Speaker 3: Next year, saying right right, yeah, so no, they have options.

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Speaker 3: I love having DK Metcalf, but I hate having the

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Speaker 3: good twenty one to eighty three as long as the

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Speaker 3: meat of this draft. Yeah, you know, but we'll see again.

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Speaker 3: Trading to act it makes a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But if you told me they got Kenneth Grand at

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Speaker 3: I'll take that. Yeah, Barreon desert between there and rown three.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolli. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: Golds in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, and this is the drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: us your comments on there. Again. I go on there

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Speaker 2: pretty frequently and answer questions or whatever. Amazing to me

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Speaker 2: how many people don't realize they just look at the

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Speaker 2: comment and don't look at who actually made the comment.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, like somebody's somebody mentioned something about shuck

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Speaker 2: and then somebody else said, well, it was reported a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago that you know he was he

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Speaker 2: visited the Steelers. I'm like, yeah, I reported it.

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Speaker 3: It was me.

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Speaker 2: I had that before everybody else. Yeah, so I'm aware.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, along those lines. Don't expect a lot of

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Speaker 3: visit news. I mean, this is heavy pro days.

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Speaker 2: There won't be any Yeah, there won't be any visits

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Speaker 2: the rest of this week. The coaching staff and there

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Speaker 2: all thirty two teams are on the road right now.

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Speaker 2: Alabama's pro day was was today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, so there's a lot going on right

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Speaker 3: speaking of Alabama's progay, So last night the Steelers dined.

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Speaker 2: It comes out well, the Steelers dined with Jaylen Milroe.

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Speaker 2: Here's how those things work. I don't exactly know how

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Speaker 2: they work. I'm curious. They very rarely, unless they're a

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Speaker 2: small school, take just one guy out right. They didn't

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Speaker 2: just take Jaylen Milroe out to dinner and have twelve

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Speaker 2: guys sitting around and going, okay, well, how's he eating

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Speaker 2: his food? What they do is they'll invite a handful

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Speaker 2: of an six or seven or eight or however many

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Speaker 2: guys a to see who's the alpha in that group,

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Speaker 2: how they interact with their teammates and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like I can remember Mike Tomlin talking about going to

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Speaker 2: the Iowa Pro Day a couple of years ago. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and everybody would hey Jack talking about Jack? What appetizers

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Speaker 2: were we ordering?

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Speaker 3: Jack?

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Speaker 2: What's you know? He was the alpha?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. And that doesn't mean he can run and

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Speaker 3: hit and tackle and write everything. But you understand how

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Speaker 3: they all.

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Speaker 2: The other right right, in a group full of guys

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Speaker 2: that you're looking at, going okay, who's the guy here?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's somebody you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Expect right right right? Or ask that guy, or you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe he's not even a good player. That's That's why

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Speaker 3: he contributes to the team. What I don't understand is

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Speaker 3: why are the Steelers so good at getting the best

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Speaker 3: players to go to dinner with them as opposed to

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Speaker 3: thirty one other teams? I think, or don't don't the

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Speaker 3: other teams do this? I mean, is this has gone

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Speaker 3: back super generations.

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Speaker 2: Some teams do and some teams don't. I do know

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Speaker 2: that guys will double book. I'm sure dinners. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Milroe was busy last night. Yeah, as we're all there,

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Speaker 2: they have a meeting, but he's.

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Speaker 3: Eating steak after steak steak either.

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Speaker 2: But the Steelers do like to take these guys to dinner.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you never even talk football, Joe, Sure, sure,

504
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Speaker 2: you're talking about life. You're watching them. You know, what

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Speaker 2: do they order? How do they treat the waitress? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know that kind of stuff, or they, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of stand offish at this whole thing? Are they

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Speaker 2: you know, what's the what's their demeanor? Like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I was the kid, I would be

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Speaker 3: a little uncomfortable slash nervous. I mean it's a different environment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the reason they choose to do

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Speaker 2: that a you get to know a lot of different guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know why they choose to do it. I

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Speaker 3: don't know how why the other thirty one don't compete

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Speaker 3: with them.

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Speaker 2: For these guys a lot of time, Like how many

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Speaker 2: head coaches go on the road to the pro day.

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Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: think that. So we keep talking about this stupid mock

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Speaker 3: draft I did earlier that Labs brought up. I took

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Speaker 3: Harmon with the first pick in a very very early

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Speaker 3: second rounder. And so many comments today they didn't go

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Speaker 3: to Oregons pro day. Know whether they're gonna take Harmon.

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Speaker 2: They didn't go to Washington's pro day. It took Tano

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Right, And Mike comic can only be one spot at

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Speaker 3: one time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he likes to hit the spots that he

529
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Speaker 2: goes to Bam every year, he goes to Clemson, every year,

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Speaker 2: he goes to Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Every thing is there's only so many flights and so

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Speaker 3: many possibilities. You're going to be one place at once.

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Multiplicity, right, right, I like pizza exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're sayding to Washington, and you're making it

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Speaker 3: sound like there was no representatives from the Steelers at

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Speaker 3: Oregon Pro Day, they have various scouts that are there.

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Speaker 3: Someone the position terifis there, but absolutely the D line

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Speaker 3: coach or the area scout or somebody might be there.

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Speaker 3: But it's not Mike Tomlin who everyone wrecked. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't mean And oh, by the way, folks, they

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Speaker 3: video those things and you can watch them on video

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Speaker 3: and talk to how things went.

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Speaker 2: How do you run? I see how he looked and

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Speaker 2: he looks like an athlete. Yeah, what was his interview? Like?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and there's just more value to being there because

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Speaker 3: you can take them to dinner. And again they don't

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Speaker 3: typically at once.

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Speaker 2: They don't typically fly to the West Coast for these

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Speaker 2: things because we'll.

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Speaker 3: It takes more time. You probably have another.

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Speaker 2: One tomorrow scheduled, right, you know in fact that that

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Speaker 2: you got to go to Columbus every year, right of

554
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Speaker 2: course you go to Penn State just because it's easy.

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Speaker 2: They have they go to pitt again. They'll do that

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Speaker 2: West Virginia. They'll they'll be at those those pro days

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Speaker 2: just because it's it's easy.

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Speaker 3: Of traild ass the other day, you know, after signing Thornhill,

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Speaker 3: why would the Steelers be at Malachi Starks pro day,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, he's he's not the only guy.

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Speaker 2: He's one of seventeen dudes at Georgia.

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Speaker 3: The kind of crazy. If they're not at Georgia.

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Speaker 2: It's like Ohio State this year, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: State, which happens to be a two hour h eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Guys at the Combine this year, or whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: You're go, There're sure who a Georgia target would be

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Speaker 3: for the Steelers off the top of my head, but

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Speaker 3: you still go.

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Speaker 2: You go, because not only do you get to see

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Speaker 2: those guys, who's the quarterback throwing to or who who's

571
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Speaker 2: there working out with He's okay, that guy looks pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Well he's eligible next year. Okay you follow that away.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, too, like it's it's certainly

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Speaker 3: true for Tomlin. But if if it was me and

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Speaker 3: I'm a new low level scout that's been in the

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Speaker 3: league three or four years, and I see my buddy

577
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Speaker 3: who's working for the Chargers, and we're gonna compare notes

578
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Speaker 3: and talk about things. You're gonna tell them trade secrets.

579
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Speaker 3: But you sit there on the sidelines in your chat.

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Speaker 2: The other thing you do is maybe you have a

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Speaker 2: good relationship with Kirby Smart or whoever. And you say, Kirby,

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Speaker 2: you played Jackson Dart last year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure, what'd you think of those guys? Right?

585
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Speaker 3: What was it? What was it? What was it?

586
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Speaker 2: Like?

587
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Speaker 3: We were scared to death of them, but then we

588
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Speaker 3: figured out this chink in his armor or boy, we're

589
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Speaker 3: so happy he didn't do this to them. We're glad

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Speaker 3: he's out of college now. Yeah, you're eligibly right, right, right, No,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot to learn. Yeah, you go to Georgia's

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Speaker 3: pro day. Yeah, And the fact that if Mike Tommin

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Speaker 3: was not at Oregons does not mean that they're not

594
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Speaker 3: drafting at Duck, right, I mean that's they're off the table. Yeah,

595
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Speaker 3: it's just I mean it's going to be some there's logistics.

596
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Speaker 3: It's a six hour plane flame, right, And that's why

597
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Speaker 3: there's no one going to be in the rest of

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Speaker 3: the week, because there's no one there to host them, right,

599
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Speaker 3: to show them around, you know. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, take

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Speaker 3: them a Penn's game and that me and you do it.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what's next. We haven't talked much about

602
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Speaker 3: this quarterback class. Yeah, in terms of we've talked about

603
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Speaker 3: it a lot.

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Speaker 2: Well, this idea that Jackson Dart is suddenly rising up

605
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Speaker 2: the boards and it's going to be I think Mel Kuiper.

606
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Speaker 2: We'll do Kuiper's draft tomorrow, just to pull back the curtain.

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Speaker 2: Had a ninth overall the Saints. The Saints. We did

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Speaker 2: the draft that's going to come out tomorrow on Steelers

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Speaker 2: dot Com, and Mike pursued ahad him as the twenty

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Speaker 2: first pick to the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday we did DJs who had first.

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not either. I always understand take a shot, get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and even just through the Steelers' eyes, take a bite

615
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Speaker 3: the apple, take the bite the apple. You might hit,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean they're hard to find. I mean

617
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Speaker 3: we went spilled it out early in the year or

618
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Speaker 3: the week about all their draft picks and why they

619
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Speaker 3: took them, and this is why it went this way.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't. I don't think he's a bad prospect. And

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Speaker 3: trust me, if the Steelers took him, I would dig

622
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Speaker 3: into him heavier and I would probably find things I'd like.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he's he's probably a top forty five prospects. Yeah,

624
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Speaker 2: and as I've said numerous times, you know in this show,

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Speaker 2: once you get past the top ten, and I don't

626
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Speaker 2: even love the top ten, but once you get past

627
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Speaker 2: that top ten, throw a blanket over the next sixty guys.

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Speaker 2: They're all gonna be graded similarly.

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Speaker 3: And he's in it. But like I if this was

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Speaker 3: you know, Saints Audio Network, I wouldn't be like, man,

631
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Speaker 3: we should consider Dart at nine. I mean, it seems

632
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Speaker 3: there's ability there, but it's not overwhelming nobility like in

633
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Speaker 3: some ways, I would much rather take a risk on

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Speaker 3: Milrow or I mean that someone that has.

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Speaker 2: If I'm going to take your human trade, yeah, if

636
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Speaker 2: I'm going to take that shot at something like that,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take Shuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, he's the better athlete's the better he's got,

639
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Speaker 3: the better arm, he's more talented.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not even on board but taking Shock at

641
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Speaker 2: twenty one, right, right, right.

642
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Speaker 3: And again for the price start in the first round,

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Speaker 3: or mil Row in the third Milroe, right, you know

644
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Speaker 3: what I mean, that's the first risk and it could

645
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Speaker 3: hit bigger and.

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Speaker 2: Again you don't might lose, but you don't have a

647
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Speaker 2: second round pick this year. That's the big That quarterback

648
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Speaker 2: that you take isn't going to play for you at

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Speaker 2: all this year.

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Speaker 3: I assume even if it was Shredoor Sanders, right, I

651
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: assume he'd be number three on opening Day. And I

652
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: like the mid round guys more and more. I like

653
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: them Accords and those dudes.

654
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: I just don't see Rocks, And I mean I get

655
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: taken by of the apple one trying to get one.

656
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: And I get it because.

657
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: If you hit, nobody cares where you took the right

658
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. I mean, we're all aware of

659
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: how it could pay off. I don't know that Dart

660
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: can be a top fifteen quarterback though, right, you know

661
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: what I mean?

662
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: And to me, that's there. And we haven't talked a

663
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: lot of mill Roe lately.

664
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: I like him more than I did coming out of

665
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl.

666
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: But I think if there's a guy there in this

667
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: draft outside of Cam wod right who has the potential

668
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: to maybe be a top ten quarterback planet to the line,

669
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: it might be.

670
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: A mill Row, it might be Milroe. I mean, he's

671
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: a remarkable runner.

672
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: He ran a four to three seven. Now that was

673
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: their timing down there, which means okay, instead he's a

674
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: four to four to two or a four four five.

675
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: Everyone on the planet says he's a four to three guy.

676
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he's really fast. He might be on

677
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: his tape. He's a rocket ship.

678
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: He might be a better pure runner than Lamar Jackson.

679
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: He might be better than anyone on the planet right now,

680
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: right in terms of just running with the football. He's

681
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: a rocket ship, and he could break tackles. And he

682
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: is so fast. He's faster than Lamar. He's faster than

683
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: the fields if he's crafty. I mean, Lamar starts and stop.

684
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lamar is a better Lamar coming out of college,

685
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: and certainly now is a better passer.

686
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: Times a thousand.

687
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

688
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar was a pro style offense. And just

689
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: because he's such a good athlete. They I mean when

690
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: he missed, he missed bad. But some thoughts on Milroe.

691
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: I hated how small his hands were at the Senior Bowl.

692
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, they were too small.

693
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: And then I liked how how small his hands were.

694
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: Big they were at the combine. So I don't know

695
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: how big his hands were.

696
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: Well, and people asked, how could that happen? Well, obviously

697
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: whoever was holding.

698
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: The ruler didn't. One of them wasn't very good.

699
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: They're one of them didn't do their job quickly. So

700
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: one of the things that probably happens now is either

701
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: bring Jalen Milroe in for.

702
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: A visit or assume it is pro day. Somebody pro day.

703
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: Somebody measures it again and sees, okay, what is it

704
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: exactly because you're measuring from here to here. I'm holding

705
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: up my hands.

706
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: Now, you probably screwed it up. At the senior.

707
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: You can make that big by stretching, by hand exercises

708
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: and stretching and that kind of stuff, but not by

709
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: an eighth or a quarter three quarters of an inch

710
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: right right difference.

711
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: You're not gonna do fifteen percent larger or whatever.

712
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: Twenty year, I think it was like almost twenty Like

713
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: it was too much. There was too much variance.

714
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: Somebody screwed up. And there were some weird arm lengths

715
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: this year too that people they might need to evaluate

716
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: the evaluators. But anyway, he's a really poor short intermediate

717
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: thrower and he misses a lot of layups. Now, he

718
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: was much better the first half of the year than

719
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: the second half of the year. And from what I've

720
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: been kind of figuring out, some defenses learned how to

721
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: play against Bama in general, they made life a little

722
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: bit more difficult for him, and frankly, he didn't have

723
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 3: Saban And I know, no one's crying for Bama, but

724
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: the people around him were not typical Bama.

725
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, got a lot of guys transferred when saving a lot.

726
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: Of people got out of there. I mean, they do

727
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: have a young receiver who's a star, but it wasn't

728
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: like Rugs waddle Vante. I mean they weren't just coming

729
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: out of the woodwork like Ohio State, and protection wasn't

730
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: great and everyone's keying on Milrow and maybe he even

731
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: had an injury later in the year. I don't know that.

732
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: The other thing that happens with running quarterbacks they can

733
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: fall into some bad habits when they're running too much.

734
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

735
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know you're all right. First reason it's there.

736
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: My job is a tuck and run. Well, then all

737
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: of a sudden somebody breaks open and you try to

738
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: throw in your feet aren't set and you sail the

739
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: ball into the stands.

740
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: And like Brady's the poster boy for this, but repeatable

741
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: mechanics can be harder. When you just took a face

742
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: mask in the hip, you know the play before you know,

743
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: and that doesn't excuse it because he misses so many

744
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: short intermediate stuff. It's bad. I mean, that's what he

745
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: needs to fix. But he's a academic all American. I mean,

746
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: he's very, very bright. He is a very a good

747
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: deep passer. He's a rocket ship of a runner. And

748
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: some quarterback people that I've listened to and paid attention

749
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: to the variety of him, think that he might be

750
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: a little too muscle bound. I mean, a big thing

751
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: now in the quarterback world behind the scenes is elasticity.

752
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: You have a loose arm, you know, Mahomes and these

753
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: guys have the loose arm where he's pretty tight and

754
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: muscle bound and big, and Levice had some of that,

755
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 3: you know, some of these guys.

756
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: That's the one thing that bodybuilder. It's one of the

757
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: things I like, actually like about Shuck. Did you see

758
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: the different arm angles that And he's still able to

759
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: make accurate throws on the move.

760
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: With different releases and like a short stock like a

761
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: short stop, Yeah, exactly, mill Road does. He's like a

762
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: third baseman like Boom, you know, and it can get

763
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: a little off, and I wonder, I mean, it sure

764
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: sounds like he works hard and if he could get

765
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: a year with the quarterback guru on the side. And

766
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: also if you watch his hip, he doesn't that front

767
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: foot doesn't always go a little left to the target.

768
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a right handed thrower, you don't

769
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: want to point that first foot directly at your target

770
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: because then you come out a little right, you know

771
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. But if I can just always repeatedly

772
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: put it slightly to the left, he doesn't always do that,

773
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: and that's correctable, you know. I mean, I'm not saying

774
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: he's going to be lead the league and completion percentage,

775
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: but there's a lot to work with it.

776
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: I just think of the guys, yeah, the guys in

777
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: this draft, he might have the highest upside.

778
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, him in ward or yeah. And if you can

779
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: take that bite in the third round and you liked

780
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: him at dinner and all that stuff, right, I'm warming

781
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: back up.

782
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: That makes that makes more sense to me than you know,

783
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: when we were talking about him, talking about him before,

784
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: we were talking second round potentially a first round guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

785
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: he's not that. He's not that, but you knew he

786
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: was fast and we were talking. It doesn't change my opinion.

787
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: And that he ran a four to three seven at all.

788
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: I knew he was fast four to six. I mean,

789
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: like you knew he could fly. And we were talking

790
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: off the air, and I'm sure some people are like, yeah,

791
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: that sounds great. If Fields is your quarterback, you know

792
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: you'd have a running offense.

793
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: I get that. But if it's Rogers, Rudolph and Milrow,

794
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: he could still be active and take five snaps a game.

795
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: I would certainly be very tempted to do stuff with him.

796
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

797
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: A it helps his progression as a quarterback and b

798
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: helps my offense.

799
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he would move the football for you

800
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: and cheat coded Lamar rookie year total package.

801
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: You've already got that stuff in your system. Yeah right right,

802
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: we've seen it. You just now have a better athlete

803
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: with which to run it. No offense to Justin Fields, And.

804
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: Frankly, you don't care as much if he gets hurt either,

805
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: because you don't go to Allen. I mean, you go

806
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: to Rudolph or Rogers Wo or whoever. I'm intrigued. I mean,

807
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: he's a weapon, because even if Rogers and Rudolph your

808
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: top two quarterbacks this year, that doesn't mean a year

809
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: from now you don't want a real athlete. The fact

810
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: there that that's still not the big long term plan

811
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't be number two. Right, it's a beauty

812
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 3: of Rudolph as you can.

813
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: Take that, but absolutely, absolutely it's.

814
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: Harder to do without a second round pick. Of course, right.

815
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: Now, there are also people out there Steeler should trade

816
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: for Joe Milton, and it's a similar conversation. It's a

817
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: similar conversation.

818
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: It costs you, well, they both will cost you a pick.

819
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: He's going to cost you. The rumor or the word

820
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: is it's going to be a third round pick. So

821
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: it's a fourth Okay, Yeah, I don't like him as

822
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: a prospect as much as I like Milrow.

823
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: I don't know as much about him, but I don't even.

824
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: I watched him at the Senior Bowl, and yes, he

825
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: can throw the ball a mile a mile right, right right.

826
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: The problem with him is that if he's throwing the

827
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: ball to the running back, he throws the ball at

828
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: the same speed that he was throwing the ball eighty

829
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: yards down the field to right.

830
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: And knocks him over. I mean, Richardson does some of

831
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 3: that too.

832
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Or sales it into the stands. He's just I know,

833
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: And again he's he's another and he's.

834
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: Allowed to get better. I mean, over the last course

835
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: of the year, he's probably improved in some way.

836
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: But he's also another year older, he's another year into

837
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: his contract.

838
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather take the.

839
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Bite out of the young guy who I can completely

840
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: mould myself. Yeah, yeah, and do it that way between

841
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: the two. It's not close to me.

842
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: Is there a price that I would give up for

843
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: Milton that the New England might consider?

844
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: I'd give him a six back, that's the use on him.

845
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, what if I give him a next

846
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: year fourth? Because I know I got a bunch or

847
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: conditional you know, I mean, if he plays two hundred

848
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: snaps something small turns into a fourth.

849
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: But are they gonna do that? Like he's costing them?

850
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: Think he likes to go.

851
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't have to go.

852
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: Who's their backup?

853
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: Though?

854
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: They have somebody Josh Dobbs stops. I have a real

855
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: backup now. Yeah, Brissette's gone. Well, say he's a real backup.

856
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs is like two and fourteen, is it? But

857
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna make the team. Yeah, he's gonna make the team.

858
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: But he's not exactly mister you know, no, call him

859
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: in off the right, I'd rather set Yeah, I it's intriguing,

860
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: but you can only have three, right, one of them's here,

861
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: the other guy's probably going to be thirty five plus,

862
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: So it leaves you one spot to pick a new

863
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: young guy, you know, is it Rourke in the sixth round?

864
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: And that's something you can do after the draft if

865
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: you get shut out. Yeah, if you don't get a

866
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: quarterback in this draft that you like, you get you

867
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: get through this go. There was just nobody at every

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Speaker 2: pick that we now you trade next year, Okay, we'll

869
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Speaker 2: give up a fourth next year.

870
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, all your picks or whatever too.

871
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: And see what he's see what he has?

872
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least pursue that angle at Leastyeah, I get it.

873
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 3: I know he comes up a lot and we usually

874
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Speaker 3: shut it down. I'd have the conversation. But if you're

875
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Speaker 3: talking like you need a third round pick back for him,

876
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: like that's in it for me? Right, I don't even

877
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Speaker 3: know that I'm interested in the fourth?

878
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I he could have just drafted him last

879
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Speaker 2: year if if they liked him, he was a sixth

880
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Speaker 2: round pick, right, right, it's a ninth quarterback taken.

881
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Speaker 3: I know, he had a good preseason game and he

882
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Speaker 3: did okay against the building.

883
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Speaker 2: Those guys in every draft, Like, you know, is he

884
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: all that different than the Missouri kid Cook?

885
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean bigger, stronger, faster, higher upside. I mean

886
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Speaker 3: the thing is the thing that's the same as Milroe

887
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: is maybe he puts it all together in the planet's

888
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: a line. Maybe maybe, and he's your you know, and

889
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: you found a dude.

890
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: But he's such people. The Patriots take him in the

891
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: sixth round and people, well the Patriots could be the

892
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Speaker 2: next Tom Brady. That's not gonna happen, right, no matter

893
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: what team he was right, right, right? I mean you

894
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: got to pursue every angle. But I don't think.

895
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: That's not logic.

896
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: That can't be the answer.

897
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, that's that could be your answer

898
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: as your third wild card.

899
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Speaker 2: Again, if you get shut out in the draft, you

900
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: don't get there's nobody at any spot that you like,

901
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 2: and you you trade for for him after the draft,

902
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: I get it, right, But doing.

903
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: Those guys three on game day, Rudolph's the two. Rudolph

904
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Speaker 3: is the two, right, and that's the beauty of him. Yeah, yeah,

905
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: I mean I know what I'm getting on game, trying

906
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Speaker 3: to win a game. Here.

907
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

908
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. This is the Drive on the Steelers

909
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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Matt and I will be back to finish

910
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Speaker 2: up the show right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

913
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

914
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Houston Texans must have been listening to

917
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: the show yesterday.

918
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Speaker 3: Matt totally adds up. I mean they're in that situation

919
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: where Cam Robinson shouldn't still be out there again, not

920
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: that he's some superstar, and their O line situation is

921
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: as dire as or is in the league. I would say, yeah,

922
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: it's ten us at best, you know.

923
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Speaker 2: So they signed Cam Robinson to play left tackle for them,

924
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: trading out Laramieunsole to do that.

925
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I don't know where he may end

926
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Speaker 3: up bumping into guard or whatever. Just gimme guys that canough.

927
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Speaker 2: I'll say this about Laramie Tunsol last year. Yeah, nineteen penalties. Oh,

928
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: He led the league with nineteen penalties. He only played

929
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: seventeen games, right, all right.

930
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: Right, some of them are pre snaps, them were holds.

931
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Speaker 3: I mean, he had a time.

932
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: It's a rough, rough season.

933
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Speaker 3: I mean, I get them trying to make over that room,

934
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: but you can't just make over an O line in

935
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Speaker 3: a day, no, you know, in that apro.

936
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Speaker 2: The Steelers tried to do that in twenty twenty one

937
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: and it didn't work out real well.

938
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Speaker 3: It's brutal, I mean, and a lot of that I

939
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: thought was scheme and their ability to pick up blitzes

940
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: and protection issues and all those type of things. And

941
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Speaker 3: you know they're going to draft O line. But man,

942
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 3: I just see Rocky Waters.

943
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Speaker 2: I never criticized the Steelers though, that's that's so I hear. No,

944
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: they screwed up in twenty twenty one by trying to

945
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: revamp it in the hatch line a patchwork offensive line. Now,

946
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: that wasn't exactly the plan going into it, to start

947
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Speaker 2: Dann Moore at left tackle when Kendrick Green is sure sure,

948
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Speaker 2: but that's realifications, Rightah, That's how it ended up, how

949
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: it ended up at the end. You know, you didn't

950
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: expect David di Castro to retire either, but even with

951
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: David di Castro in there, that was going to be

952
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: a subpar line Rocky Waters. Yeah, and that's all place

953
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: you want to be. No any other news in the league.

954
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 2: I don't think much happened in the last A lot

955
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Speaker 2: of the signings have slowed down a lot. Although Llo

956
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: Weatherspoon back with the Rams. Good for him.

957
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Speaker 3: That's been a good marriage with the two of them. Yeah,

958
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: I could still see them doing a corner in round

959
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: one possibly, but I didn't realize you mentioned earlier in

960
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: the show the West plays both souths Rams. I'm just

961
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Speaker 3: taking the over on their wind total now whatever it is. Yeah,

962
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Speaker 3: I think nine and a half.

963
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, win ten games.

964
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know staffords against those teams and that division

965
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Speaker 3: is all that good. And look like they're going.

966
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Speaker 2: Back go six and two and those just in those games, right,

967
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the ten wins.

968
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Speaker 3: They're gonna go three and three in the West. Yeah,

969
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Speaker 3: I'm sure, if not better, that's double digit wins on

970
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: right there. Yeah. No, I like where they're at for

971
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Speaker 3: the short term. Yeah, I mean even adding like Punaford,

972
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: you know to already good d line the Rams to

973
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Speaker 3: me are clearly the best team in that division.

974
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see how it works. And that's when

975
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: you start looking at projected records and things of that nature.

976
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Speaker 2: You got, you do have to factor those kind of

977
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 2: things in. Oh absolutely, look at the look who they play.

978
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: Don't just say, well, that's been a really good team.

979
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Speaker 2: You never know.

980
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: You never know right now, you know me? I mean

981
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: we get closer, I start paying attention to strength of

982
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: schedules and that kind of stuff, especially once the Vegas

983
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: schedule comes out.

984
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Speaker 2: I want to know, you know, not only strength of schedule,

985
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Speaker 2: but where are they playing those games? When are they playing?

986
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Speaker 3: I mean I harped on it like crazy that the

987
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: Ravens set an NFL record for having more rest than

988
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: their opponents by fifteen days. You know, like that shouldn't happen.

989
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: No two facts, we get it, right. The fact that

990
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Speaker 3: you get it is a huge benefit. Take the over

991
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: runner wins, you know, yeah, absolutely. Anyways, that's going to

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Speaker 3: do it for our show today. So for my partner Williamson,

993
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Speaker 3: or the Matt Williamson as it were, for Justin Miller

994
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Speaker 3: here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and getting

995
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Speaker 3: us Bob Lavriola today also making sure we sound okay,

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Speaker 3: and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video looks good

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Speaker 3: or as good as possible on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Give us a thumbs up on the YouTube channel. We

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Speaker 2: like that. I'm Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening

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Speaker 2: to this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.