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Um and 27 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: I have like little knickknack injuries just from we're not 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: wanting shoes. Yeah, bare feet. The bottoms of your feet 29 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: must be raw by now. The bottom of the skin's gone, 30 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: but like the toes and the top of my feet, 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: my back, yeah, all of that, my butt, my eyeballs, everything. 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: You've had to have some pretty heinous injuries over the years, right, Ah, Yeah, 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: there's been some pretty grueling ones. I'dly have never broken 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: a bone ever, never broken a bone, but I did 35 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: snap my a c l in half and twist up 36 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: my meniscus more times than they could count and fix. Basically. 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: That happened when I was fifteen. I was using the 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: World Championships and it went, wait, so, how do you 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: is that like a move like a spin or a 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: pivot or a push? It was. It was jive, which 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: you know a lot about, which is a very intense 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: like jumpy movie dance. Yeah, it's it's a very intense dance, 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: but also just competing the World Championships is intense. You know, 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: you're leading up to it during seven days a week, 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: training NonStop, and it's it's hours and hours on end. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: And then you get to the day and the semifinal 47 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: would have been probably eight nine rounds in. We'd already 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: done now, competed and danced eight or nine times that day, 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: and so your body is tired. And we got to 50 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: the final dance in the semifinals and that was the 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: jive and I did this jump thing where he would 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: we would jump up and jump back down and I 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: just must have landed the wrong way and I felt 54 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: something give and I came off the floor and it 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: had blown up like a grapefruit. And I was sitting 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: there with the medic and we were in Austria, so 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: there was no English really going between us. It was 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: just kind of hand signals, but was basically telling me 59 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: that I shouldn't dance. And then my dance partner came 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: running in and told me that we made the final. 61 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: And no one was going to tell this fifteen year 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: old that she wasn't going to dance in the final 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: the World Championships, and so I made them drain the 64 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: fluid out of my name my knee, put courter zone 65 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: in it, and I went out and danced half a 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: dance and to many gave out. So you didn't get 67 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: through it? No, gosh, no I didn't. I barely finished 68 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: the first dance and then I got off the floor 69 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: and they had to hook me up to this machine 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: and um with the electric pads and stuff to try 71 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: and figure it out. I got flown back to Australia 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: and had a full A C O reconstruction. So how 73 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: do you as a fifteen year old competing in the 74 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: World Championships that normal? It's like gymnastics where there are 75 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of fifteen year olds that are starting to 76 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: be good. Or were you young for your age? Yeah? 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I was young for my age group, but it was 78 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: youth so it was under twenty one, so I was fifteen. 79 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: There was one year olds there, so it was yes, 80 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: in a sense, I was ahead of my age. My 81 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: dance partner was two years older than me. He was 82 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen at the time, I think, so there 83 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: was Yeah, there was a lot of fifteen or sixen 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: year olds there, but predominantly everyone is a lot older, 85 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: When was it for you that you started to go, oh, 86 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of better than everyone, because there had 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: to be that point no, because you are obviously a 88 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: great dance sir, and there had to be a point 89 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: of separation. A lot of my athlete friends, even my 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: musician friends, through work or talent and usually mixture of both, 91 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: they started to go oh, I was seventeen and I 92 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: could start to see myself growing faster than my peers. 93 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: So when was that for you? I think that, to 94 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't even know if I've really ever 95 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: had that moment, if I'm being real with you. When 96 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: I was fifteen and competing in the World Championships, I 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: started to resent dance a little bit. I didn't see 98 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: it for what it was it was. I felt like 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: it was my parents putting me in it, and I 100 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: knew I was good at it. You know, I was 101 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Australian champion going too the World Championships. There's a certain 102 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: confidence and cockiness that goes with that. But I was 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: always searching for something else, this freedom that I thought 104 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: that I wanted, and so when I busted my knee 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: and I had these two years off the dance floor, 106 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: That's when it became my choice to want to go 107 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: back to dancing. And when I went back two years later, 108 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: I had dropped very far from the top of the leaderboard. 109 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: I had to retake train my body how to do 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: what it was doing, and so I felt like I 111 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: was always behind everybody else. And so perseverance and hard work, 112 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: moved myself to London on my own at eighteen, started training, 113 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, working three jobs just to be able to 114 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: afford to dance, to try and catch up to everybody, 115 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: and it probably it took me a good few years 116 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: after that. I would have been in my mid twenties 117 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: when I was like, okay, alright, I'm pretty I'm pretty 118 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: damn good at this and kind of happened. Then, Yeah, 119 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: it took a lot. What is it with you? Then 120 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: that separates you because I just see a bunch of 121 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: elite athletes. You guys are so good that it's like 122 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: walking to the land of giants. And okay, so one 123 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: giant three ft taller than the other, you're still all 124 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: fifteen ft tall. You know, That's what it seems like 125 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: in that that space when we're all working and I 126 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: don't know who's amazing and who's amazing plus one right, 127 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: because I've never seen it before. It's like watching I'll 128 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: make a different analogy someone through a hundred and three 129 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: mile in our fastball and a ninety seven mile in 130 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: our fastball. Both point zero zero zero one. For some 131 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: of the population can do right. But there's a difference 132 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: if you watch enough baseball that you can see it now. 133 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough dance to know the difference. So 134 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: what is it about you now that makes you throw 135 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: the hundred and three fastball? Oh? My god, life experience. 136 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I think what separates all of us on that show 137 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: is that we learned how to not just be dancers, 138 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: but be communicators, to be mentors, to be teachers. There's 139 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: there's an art form to that as to why we 140 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: are the twelve chosen few to be a part of 141 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and to be elite and to 142 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: be able to throw a hundred and three. It is 143 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: so much more than just you learning how to dance. 144 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: It's being able to understand a person and to put 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: to be honest with them first before what you want 146 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: in that moment. That's what makes a great coach. You've 147 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: got to mold to the person in front of you. 148 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: And there have been a lot of great dances that 149 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: have come on this show and not lasted because they 150 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: haven't had the ability to do that. It's a it's 151 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: a completely different world. I've been so far out of 152 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: the competitive ballroom world now that I'm like a hybrid 153 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: of you know, ballroom and commercial dance and TV and 154 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: cre aiding and storytelling. It's been I couldn't imagine going 155 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: back to just being a dancer because I am obsessed 156 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: with being a creator and a mental As a coach, 157 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting because I will watch just because I coach 158 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: people at different things, but I'll watch you coach me, 159 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: and I can tell when you're really frustrated and you 160 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: don't want it to come through, and you're trying so 161 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: hard not to be frustrated, but you do a great 162 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: job at the time of not letting it show and 163 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: just keeping your head down and you keep pushing you, 164 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: which keeps pushing me. That's a that's a real quality 165 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: trait that there aren't a lot of great coaches. When 166 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: did you get good at actually figuring people out? I 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: think I've always been good at figuring. Like Dick Season one, Yeah, 168 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: did you could you figure them out pretty quickly how 169 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: to coach them. Yeah, because I have experienced to let 170 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: people throughout my life with drug and substance abuse, you know, 171 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: in the history of trying to get clean, trying to 172 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: go to rehab, and trying to get their life together, 173 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: so you know, like his situations, so you kind of 174 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: worked around him. Yeah. That I learned that you you 175 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: have to work with the person in front of you, 176 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: not no two people are the same. So as a coach, 177 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: I can't coach you the same as I coach Josh Norman. 178 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, you're You're two completely different people. That required 179 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: two different styles of teaching. Uh. And Andy Dick was 180 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: was my first partner ever on the show. Was like, congratulations, 181 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: zero pro you have Andy Dick. I had no idea 182 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: who he was until I saw his face and thought, 183 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: oh gosh, what am I in for this season? And 184 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: he was very broken on the inside and had a 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: lot of demons. But through dance and through him and 186 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I working together, we really got through a lot of stuff. 187 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: But you know, it was a huge learning curve for me. 188 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: That was my first experience of having to put another 189 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: person ahead of my creativity, ahead of my dancing and 190 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: learning how to be the support for that person. But 191 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I actually loved that. I spent my whole life being 192 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: the one that was on stage, center front and dancing, 193 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: especially while I was touring. So it's really beautiful to 194 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: give that moment to someone else. Now, so how do 195 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: you how do you get on Dancing with the Stars 196 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: of the pro Like? What's that? What do they what 197 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: do they find you people? I mean now in the 198 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: days of like so you think you can dance, it's 199 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: it's a really great recruiting tool. Basically, you know, you 200 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: can see these ballroom dancers from across the planet, so 201 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: or you know, across the country, go on this show 202 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: and really pick who you want. That's how we got Whitney, Lindsay, Jenna, 203 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them we got from that show. 204 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: But back before then, before so you think, was really 205 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: that massive. You couldn't audition for Dancing with the Stars. 206 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: They just had to know about you. They had to 207 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: know your name within their circle for you to even 208 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: get a look in. And the way that they found 209 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: me was I was dancing on Broadway in two thousand 210 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: and nine and we had Max Tchmikowsky come and star 211 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: in it as our as our celebrity dancer, and so 212 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: he was on Dancing with the Stars at the time. 213 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: He was pro. He was a pro. So he's Vow's 214 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: brother Valen Jenna Vowed Tchmilkowsky on the show Dancing with Nancy. 215 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: That's his older brother. Yes, yes, they're both amazing people 216 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: their family to me. But anyway, Max has been on 217 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: since season three, I think. So he came out and 218 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: starting the show. The whole of the Dancing with the 219 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Stars production team came out to support and see him, 220 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: and also, you know, quietly recruit a couple of us 221 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: from that show, and that's where they found me, Sasha 222 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: Peter who isn't on this season but was on previously, 223 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Emma Artem, a whole lot of us came from there. 224 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: So when you get the call and they say come 225 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: do Dancing with the Stars, is that like Saturday Night 226 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: Live for dancers? Is that? Yeah? Kind I mean it 227 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: is now. Back in the day, the purists didn't want 228 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: to have anything to do with it Dancing with the 229 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Stars for the last two to three seasons. Maybe here 230 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: we are at season twenty seven and still going strong. 231 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: It was it was thought to be that you were 232 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: selling out if you went to do a Dancing with 233 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: the Stars from the competing world. But now everyone wants 234 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: to be a part of it because it's incredible what 235 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: it's done for dance. It's put ballroom dancing back on 236 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: the map and in the living rooms of people a 237 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: cross America. More and more dance schools a film now 238 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: are full of people going to take ballroom dancing lessons 239 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: because they see it on Dancing with the Stars. It's amazing. 240 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: What kind of kid were you? So you're four or five, 241 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: six years old? What was that about? Oh my god, 242 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: I was so many different, so many different levels when 243 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: I was growing up. I feel like I went through 244 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: so many different stages as of four or five and 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: six year old, I was this sweet little blonde hair, 246 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: blue eyed pig tails running around couldn't I couldn't tell 247 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: a lie if you begged me, I could. I was 248 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: always just my heart on my sleeve. And Australia growing 249 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: up in Wogga Wogga, I was part of the I 250 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a map, what part of that Wagga Wogga. 251 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: So there's the East Coast and you know as Sydney 252 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: is and Melbourne is, right Sydney is sort of in 253 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the East Coast, say, it's a little 254 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: lower than that, and then Melbourne is at the bottom. 255 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: If you draw inland and meet those two points, that's 256 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: where you would find Wogga Wogga. It's inland. But in 257 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: between Sydney and Melbourne. No, there's a huge lake, a 258 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: massive massive that we would ski every uh summer as 259 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: kids and it was amazing. My nan used to live 260 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: right across the road from the lake. We call it 261 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Burgess Beach, be out there every day. So you're a kid, 262 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: your parents are together at four at the time. Yeah, 263 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: kind of on enough, but at the time you have 264 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. No, I have a half brother from 265 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: my dad's first marriage who I was really close with 266 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: as a kid, but through family falling out see, and 267 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: I haven't spoken for a very long time. That's always 268 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: a weird thing because I have a half brother I 269 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, it's crazy, right, and it's like half 270 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: of my blood and lungs and hair, and but I 271 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: don't know my real dad. I just you know, I 272 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: just met him again recently. Yeah, that's a weird thing 273 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: to have someone that you like share half your genetics 274 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: with and don't know. Yeah, it's well, I mean I 275 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: think for me what was tough is he was my 276 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: He was my brother growing up, you guys had a 277 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: brother and relationship. I remember that I would hide in 278 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: the closets when I knew he was coming home from 279 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: work so we could play hide and seek. He was 280 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: my brother. I knew no different, but you know not, 281 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have a falling out, but our 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: family didn't hear my dad, and so I just ended 283 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: up that we lost touch and that hurt because I 284 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: lost him when I was about fifteen sixteen. So your 285 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: mom and dad split, you go with one of them, 286 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: leave both of them. My mom and dad were on 287 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: and off together when I was really young, and then 288 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: they stuck it out and they stayed until I left home. 289 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: And I moved out of home when I was seventeen, 290 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: and they lasted maybe six months after that. Where'd you 291 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: go after I moved out for a little bit while 292 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: I was in Sydney, and then a few months later 293 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I moved to Melbourne. Um, and I was living in 294 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Melbourne on my own and then packing my bags and 295 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: moved to London. Were you dancing in Melbourne? Yeah, I was. 296 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: That was when I started to get back into dance 297 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: after I had been a rebellious, crazy teenager for a 298 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: couple of years there and got all the freedom in 299 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: the world that I thought I wanted. And when I 300 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: got back into dance, I had to relocate to Melbourne. 301 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: So you go to London to do what all the 302 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: world's best coaches were there the time, back in the 303 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: days of uh like Blackpool, which is basically our World Championships, 304 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: which is this little like little almost casino town in 305 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the UK, and they host the biggest ballroom dancing competition 306 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: in the world. It's bigger than the world really. Because 307 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: of the World Championships you only get two couples from 308 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: each country. At Blackpool you get all of them. There's 309 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of couples that compete and 310 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: you go there every year, and so that was kind 311 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: of the hub of borrom dancing. All the best coaches 312 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: lived in London at this little studio called Semily, and 313 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: you would be practicing every single night from eight pm 314 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: for eight pound and you would go in and you'd 315 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: do hr eight sambers, eight rumbers, eight drives, eight whatever. 316 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: But you would also see the top six in the 317 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: world practicing right next to you. I mean, that's inspiration 318 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: right there. And then throughout the day you would go 319 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: and have your dance lessons from some of the best 320 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: in the world. So in London, your goal was what though, 321 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: years old, what's the plan? I thought it was going 322 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: to be world champ. That was my goal. I never 323 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: had a dream of being in television. I never even 324 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: thought that I'd end up in in this kind of world. 325 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: I was going to own a dance studio, go back 326 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: to Australia, teach dance, give back to my community. What 327 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: does the world champion mean? Though? Like? What did you 328 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: want to wrestling? Belt me? No, at the time, it 329 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: just sounds like it's what you want to do, right, 330 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: You just want to be the best in your field. 331 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: But doing money, no, not even really. I mean ball 332 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: room dancing, you don't earn that much money. You spend 333 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: a lot of money. But at the time, again, that 334 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: was my art form, it was my craft. It was 335 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: it was what I was passionate about, and so I thought, 336 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I want to be the best at it, and to 337 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: be the best, you have to be the world champion. 338 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: You did get hired to go and do shows for 339 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: certain events, but that's not enough. They're not going to 340 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: make a ton of money doing that. Um. And I'm 341 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: really grateful that I ended up in the direction that 342 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: I have to give me, you know, an opportunity to 343 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: explore other things too with my creativity. But at the time, 344 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I didn't even know all this existed. So you moved 345 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: the States for a job, I moved to So I 346 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: left touring when at the end of two thousand and ten, 347 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: I went to London and charreographed a movie over there. 348 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: It's basically the European version of Step Up called Street 349 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Dance Too, and h I choreographed that and from there 350 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: I came over to Dancing with the Stars in August 351 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. And what's it like when you 352 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: first enter Dancing with the Stars Because there are a 353 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: lot of other dancers that have been there, And I 354 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: see Brandon this season, it's his first time, and he's 355 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: a little deer in headlights. Yeah he is. He's like, 356 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, Hope I did okay. And I'm like, dude, 357 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: you're a freaking pro. He's amazing. He's amazing. He just 358 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: doesn't see it yet. And so your first season, do 359 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: you feel like you have something to prove and do 360 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: they give you one of the hardest Not Andy Dick specifically, 361 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: but anyone that comes, I guess not Brandon because he 362 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: has somebody really good. Well, yeah, Brandon has been around 363 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: for a little bit, and I think he's such a 364 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: good match with his partner because he has He's a 365 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: very well rounded dancer. He does hip hop, he does contemporary, 366 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: he does jazz, and that's what to Nase is great 367 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: at two, So a really good match where some of 368 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: our other male dancers haven't studied those forms of dance. 369 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: They're just straight ballroom. Um. So the show really tries 370 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: to match you with who they think best works. But 371 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: my very first season on the show, I wasn't with 372 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: a celebrity partner. I was on the Troop. Yeah, I 373 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: started in the truth. When they originally wanted me in 374 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, there was no troop. They wanted to 375 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: be me to be a pro straight away. But then 376 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: when I could finally join them in two thousand and eleven, 377 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: there was this thing called the Troop and they said, 378 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: we want to introduce you to our fans so they 379 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: get to know you before we lose one of our 380 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: old fan favorites at the time. So I did that. 381 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: But my very very first episode, they asked me to 382 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: choreograph the opening number because I just came off choreographing 383 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: a movie, and I said no to it. I said 384 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: no because it was like, Okay, here's this new kid 385 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: coming in. None all of them have egos and attitudes, 386 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't. I knew some of them, that not 387 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: all of them, and I didn't want to just come 388 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: in as this kid on the Troopers at bossing everyone 389 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: around you. Stand here, let's go. So I actually said 390 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: note to it because I was so intimidated by it 391 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to come out and and I 392 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: don't know, I just felt like it wasn't gonna be 393 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: a good look for me. Probably would have been a 394 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: good look, I don't know. Stupid decision, but at the 395 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: time I was way too intimidated to do it. So 396 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: how many seasons did you Troop? Three? I didn't know this, 397 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: So you're on the Troop for three seasons, meaning for 398 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: someone like me, we don't know what that means. That 399 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: means you're one of the extra background dancers. Yeah. See, 400 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: at the time when I was on the Troop. It 401 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: was amazing because we also had a Tuesday show every week, 402 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: but celebrities didn't dance on it. The Troop did. We 403 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: would do all the opening numbers. I was choreographing opening numbers. 404 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: We didn't have Mandy Moore. We'd have as by the way, 405 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Mandy Moore is not the singer Mandymore. It's choreography. Yeah. 406 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: We had a little big town come on. We had 407 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of incredible artists come on. Kiss was one 408 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: of them, which was really cool for me. And I 409 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: would choreograph the dances for them. We would do group 410 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: numbers and I would choreograph, and I would meet the 411 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: band and or the group or the singer, and you know, 412 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: put these pieces together and every Tuesday we dance and perform. 413 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: I was living my life. Troop was so different years ago. 414 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Now the Troop basically gets to be background and all 415 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: of our dances. They really don't get an opportunity to 416 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: shine and show how incredible they are, which is such 417 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: a shame. So you're talking about people getting teamed up 418 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: with the pros because of who they are, meaning who 419 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: the pros are and what they can teach. How in 420 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: the world did we get teamed together in your mind 421 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: because we're both single? What do you think? I don't 422 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: know that. That's the only reason I don't know that answer. 423 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: It's I mean at the end of the day, that 424 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: the show matches you up based off ability. Yes, you 425 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: have quite a story to tell, and to be honest, 426 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm one of the best storytellers on the show. That's 427 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: not saying I'm the best choreographer. We're all amazing at 428 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: what we do. But I have such a love for 429 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: telling stories and especially people's stories. And I think that's 430 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: a huge part of it, because I'm a nurture and 431 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: they know I'm going to tell your story well. But 432 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: I do think at the same time, in knowing I'm 433 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: the only single girl on the cast, they always pain 434 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: me up with some when in the hopes that maybe 435 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: it will spark a little something they want. Once they 436 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: got it right, and it was Robert and Kim and 437 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: they ended up getting married and having twins, and there 438 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: there's a shark, yeah, the shark tank guy, and they 439 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: are honestly a match made in heaven. It was this 440 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: was they were supposed to meet Ah and all these 441 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: people at the show of My Family too, so they're 442 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: just trying to, I guess, help me out. So let 443 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: me ask you this then whenever they put us together, 444 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: and you see, it's me and I have no experience whatsoever. 445 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: And we spent the first week together. And you can 446 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: say this now because I think we're getting in a 447 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: better place to where I think we can do some damage. 448 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: And I'm getting better and you're getting better at teaching me. 449 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: We're not close to the good ones yet, but we 450 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: have things they don't. Absolutely, But are you like that 451 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: we don't have a chance. No, not at all. Really, Yeah, gosh, 452 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: there's been Honestly, I've only had a couple of partners, 453 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: with the exception of the fact that a lot of 454 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: them have been athletes. There has only ever been Nick Carter, 455 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: who had dance experience, and Charlie White, who had dance 456 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: experience and he was an athlete too, athlete, he was 457 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: an ice ice dancer, you know. Other than that, I 458 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Jane Tinchcliffe turned up. All he does is sit in 459 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: a car and drive for a living. Never had dance experience, 460 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: you know, it shouldn't have had any coordination. There's been 461 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people that turn up and I think, oh, gosh, 462 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I've got my hands full. But never do 463 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: I think we've got absolutely no hope because the beauty 464 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: about this show is you never know what's going to happen. 465 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes you think it's going to be the best dancer 466 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: that wins, and it isn't. That person just falls by 467 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: the wayside, and they're really people are really loving to 468 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: watch the one that inspires them or motivates them, or 469 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: the one that's had the most growth. You never know 470 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: what fans are looking for every season or Dancing with 471 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the Stars, so you can absolutely, absolutely the best dancer 472 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: cannot win. For example, when Rashard Jennings one minds you 473 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: he's amazing. Don't get me wrong, he's going to his 474 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: athlete too. He's an athlete and he's a great dancer. 475 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: But Normandy was on that season who is a who 476 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: is if not better into nach do you know what 477 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: I mean? She's She was just phenomenal. She was with 478 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: val they did the most incredible pieces all the season. 479 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: The third David Ross beta about how okay to be fair? 480 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Shot is again a great athlete move okay, David Ross 481 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: couldn't but then didn't win like second compare someone though, 482 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: in this world of Dancing with the Stars to me, 483 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: who has no super athletic experience like I played in 484 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: high school, a little bit in college, but not even 485 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: at a high level. So no athlete and never danced 486 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: like I looked at the list I went to every 487 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: single person, every one of them. But why are you 488 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: trying to find someone like you? There's no one like me? 489 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: That's that's a good thing and a wow, there's never 490 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: been anyone to win this show, Like there's a reason 491 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: things continue to happen in history, right, um, but in 492 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: the history of the show, no one coming from my 493 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: background has ever won the show. And to you, you 494 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: gotta be like, oh, man, like, are you kidding? I 495 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: got you? Could you have a one yet? No? I've 496 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: come close. You've been a second three times. Three times. 497 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: You're one of two people just doing statistics at the end. Yeah, 498 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: if you just say you're gonna be one and one 499 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: three different times, you would bet all your money that 500 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: one of those three times you're getting hit statistically speaking, 501 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and you haven't hit. I know. This is what is 502 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the nickname that that they said, Leonardo Dicaffrie of Danger. 503 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: But he finally won. He finally went eventually after what 504 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: ten years? I don't have ten years left. You and 505 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: I have to win this season. I feel like we 506 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: have to win this season. Like I'm even you know, 507 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: looking at the trajectory, like if we just get so 508 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: much better each week, and sometimes you won't get better. 509 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes you like to take a step back, take two 510 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: more steps forward. But I think we can do it. 511 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: But we have got to hit it right every week. 512 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: We have no room just to really fall back, No, 513 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: we don't. You just have to show growth every week. 514 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: There is they cannot be fullback, especially for us because 515 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: we are starting pretty far behind everyone as far as 516 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: dance ability goes, you know, and like you said the 517 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: flu though, Listen, I've seen you push through being sick already. 518 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Let's not forget that. I see you pushing through injuries 519 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: and pain. If you get no end, what if you 520 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: get hurt? I'm exactly the same, h Mike, what do 521 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: you think about all this? You're listening? Like, what what's 522 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: your bigger You've been watching us every day. We haven't 523 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: had a day off, you know, we haven't. I mean, 524 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: I've already seen you guy a lot better. Yeah, and 525 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 1: it's crazy to see you go from being just like 526 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: kind of dreading doing it, like because you know, when 527 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: you're not really good at something, you get kind of blustered, 528 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: and now you're like more comfortable. What do you think 529 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: about that statement? Yeah? I agree. I agree that you 530 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: are getting more comfortable and that you're getting confidence in 531 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: yourself and that you actually hear me when I say 532 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: good job, or you believe me when I say I'm 533 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: proud of you. It's you've come in leaps and bounds, 534 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: not just in dance, but I think in human ways, 535 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: in being able to be vulnerable in that room and 536 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: this actually this week, dude, you could not have done 537 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: this dance, even forget physically emotionally, three years ago, three years, 538 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: three weeks ago, three years ago. Definitely, it feels like 539 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: a started, doesn't it. I feel like I've known you 540 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: my whole life. I'll tell you that, I feel like 541 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: I've known you my whole life, and so that makes 542 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: it easier for me to tell your story. But in 543 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: knowing you and knowing who you were three weeks ago, 544 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: four weeks ago when we started, there is no way 545 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: that you could have been this open and this vulnerable 546 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: in dance. And that's what I think is so beautiful 547 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: about this, and that's what people are going to love 548 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: to see. We have never I have never spent as 549 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: much time with someone so often, so quickly, because it 550 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: was Bobby Sharna, Sharna, Bobby. You're together now every day, 551 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: every day, and when you're not, you're texting or you're talking. 552 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: I've never spent I just it would be almost impossible 553 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: for me to do with somebody I didn't like. Yes, totally, 554 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: it will. It is nearly impossible. Trust me, I've had 555 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: to do it, you know, and it's it's soul destroying 556 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: when you feel like you have to be in that 557 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: space with that person and to be creative with them. 558 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: You know, that's really really hard. But we have every 559 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: now and then you get paid with someone on this 560 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: show where you have a very special connection with For 561 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: the most of the part, it is easy. Yeah, you 562 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: go in, you do jump, and it's good and you 563 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: you have a lot of fun. You get close, but 564 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: not all the time do you stay connected after the season. 565 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: There have been a couple of my life where I 566 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: really have. One is Noah Galloway. One is James Hinchcliffe. 567 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty dang sure that you are not going 568 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: to be in each other's lives for a very long time. 569 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a tough one. You're going to 570 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: be rid of me as soon as I've done. I'm 571 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: a tough nut. I'll tell you this though, that I've 572 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: never touched a human as much. I know. Yeah, it's 573 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: a lot to get used to. Nobody touches me. Nobody 574 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: touches me, like, don't touch I'm not I don't touch hands. 575 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm a germophobe. And then all of a sudden, it's 576 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: just like getting dunked into a bucket where it's like 577 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Shanages holds hands and then your hands are on It's 578 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: it's a whole world. I can't even think about it. 579 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm never not touching you though, right the whole time. 580 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: It's something even when I'm sitting next to you, I'm 581 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: linked into you while my shoulder is next to you. 582 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: There is a closeness that comes with dance because there's 583 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: a you know, you become very familiar with each other 584 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: and so that touch becomes something very very normal, and 585 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a sexual thing. It's just 586 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: a friendship and a beautiful in a connection and a 587 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: an intimacy in a different way because you and I 588 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: are spending all of our time with one another. We 589 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: got to know each other very very deeply, and you're 590 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: letting me tell your story. That's a whole lot of 591 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: trust right there. It'd be weird if we weren't able 592 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: to hold hands, but we couldn't do don't hold anybody 593 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: in hand and your mind. I know, Mike. I got 594 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Dammy's hand the other day just because I was like, 595 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: hey man, I grabbed her hand and walking and she 596 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing? Like, I don't know, man, 597 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Charlie's got me into the whole bubble. It's a whole 598 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: new thing. Well, and there's a bit of trust for 599 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: you to come here and do and have me to 600 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: ask you about your life because it's just you and 601 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: me and two microphones right now. And I could walk 602 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: you down any path I wanted and say tell me this, 603 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: tell me who you hate, tell me. But there's there's 604 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: trust here that you trust me not to take you 605 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: somewhere that's not good for you. Yeah, of course I 606 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: trust that. I wouldn't do this if I didn't trust you. 607 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Why witch you got and I have nothing? I was 608 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: asking Sharna earlier Mike, because she's had a bunch of 609 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: pro athletes like because and someone like Antonio Brown who 610 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: plays for the Steelers, one of the best wide receivers, 611 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: one of the best athletes in the NFL. Like you 612 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: worked with him, Yeah, I did. I can't imagine like 613 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: somebody that like he's like a Greek god, like his body, 614 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: how he moved, how fast he is. Like when you 615 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: get someone that is that just athletic, chiseled, muscular, it's 616 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: like art. Yeah, I mean, it's it's phenomenal what you 617 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: can do when it comes to athletes, right, they're so 618 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: coordinated and and uh ready to learn. A body has 619 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: been through the ring already with what they do for 620 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: their career and then you know, pushing it to do 621 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: something beyond its limit. They used to being coached and 622 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: pushed and so it's a it's a whole another level. 623 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: And I work with them in a completely different way 624 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: to the way that I work with you. With them, 625 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: it's a different experience, but it is amazing. It's equally 626 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: amazing to work with you too. You know, there's sometimes 627 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: athletes come on but they don't really have a story 628 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: that they want to share. It's all just gold chains 629 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: and money. That's what I wished my way my story. 630 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Gold chains and money, two things I don't really give 631 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: a crap about. Yeah, exactly, I wish that was my story. 632 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: Got no depth to that. Gold chains and money. It's 633 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: a couple couple gold chain, just a couple of I'm 634 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: pretty sure you could get them. I don't really want to, 635 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: I just wish I wanted them. I think we were 636 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: talking earlier like I wished I wanted to be cooler. Yeah. 637 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to be any cooler. You 638 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: are cool just the way that you are. What's cooler? 639 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: What would be cooler? Gold chains of money? Yeah? Yeah, 640 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: just show up, blinged out out. Just get diamonds all around. 641 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: The had to be glasses, just full diamond glasses. Okay, 642 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: let's let's do best and worst. We'll talk about we'll 643 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: do each other. Okay in this game. Best and worst 644 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: in this game, well done. Best and worst thing about 645 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: working with me on this show. We'll do best first, 646 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: go ahead. Best thing is getting to know you as 647 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: a human. Not to be sentimental and cheesy, but very 648 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: very true. Okay, and what's the worst. The hardest thing 649 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: about working with me on this show. Uh, the wild 650 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: card that you are on Mondays, sometimes your energy goes 651 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: kind of about out the window. And we've only had 652 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: two weeks. To be fair, the sample size is very 653 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: small sample sizes. So you're asking me again like I 654 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't I shouldn't have interrupted. I'm sorry. Let me ask 655 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: you what's the hardest the worst part so far? You 656 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: being a wild card on Monday Nights. But you should 657 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: ask me again in a couple of weeks, because I 658 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: have a feeling that it's going to change. I think 659 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna change to um, you got really mad at me, 660 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: and mad people will hear this for a whole for 661 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: a year, two or three years to come. But what 662 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: happened was last week and week two we did what's 663 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: called a fox dance foxtrot foxtrot, fox trot, And on 664 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: the foxtrot I did okay, And at the end we 665 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: were let's we were the last act. We were the 666 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: last act. I felt and it was a slow dance 667 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: and I felt pressured to and you had choreographed this 668 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: beautiful dance. We got to the very end and I 669 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: didn't sit down on the bench. Instead, I flast I 670 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: was going to kill you. You were you were so pissed, 671 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: you were so mad, so hard with the rose. When 672 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: you sat next to me, I forgot that I was 673 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: on live television. Even outside of that. Yeah, I was pissed. 674 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: You were so pissed, just genuinely, and I was disappointed 675 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: in myself and the fact that I didn't like for 676 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: you to be mad at me. I wasn't mad at 677 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: what I did, and I told you that, but I 678 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: hated that you were upset with me. I hated it. 679 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: I was so upset with you. But do you know why, 680 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Because it's not that it's not that I was offended 681 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: that you would do that to my choreography. It's not 682 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: that I was I felt like you did something wrong 683 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: to me. It was I didn't want people to look 684 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: at you and think, oh, he's not taking this seriously. 685 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: He's just a goofball, having fun out there whatever, and 686 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: not care about you. Because people take this show very seriously. 687 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: They are so passionate about getting behind their favorite and 688 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: voting to help them go and win or help them 689 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: on their journey, and if they see that you're not 690 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: taking it seriously, then their votes go to someone else. 691 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: But I know how passionate you are, and I know 692 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: how much you work, and I know what it took 693 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: for that week for us to just get through those 694 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: two dances. And at the end of that freaking week 695 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: it was like me and meltdown status, especially for me. 696 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: On Friday, I wanted to kill you. You couldn't even 697 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: finish the last move I wanted. I wanted to punch 698 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: you if I really you know you did and you 699 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: walked off as we finished our TV. I left you 700 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: and she left like she walked, and I was like, 701 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: that's gone, and this is this is my thought process 702 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: at the time. I thought, I think America is gonna 703 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: like what I did, and I thought I was the 704 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: last act, and I felt pressure could be with the 705 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: last act on the show. And I felt that it 706 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: was a slow dance. It would have been a fast dance. 707 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't have done that. I felt like 708 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: there was energy, good energy, um, but I didn't like 709 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: for you to be upset. So I was walking this 710 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: line aside of my head. And so you came over 711 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: and I apologized hard and sincere as possible. You were 712 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: still mad, but yet and you shouldn't have and I 713 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: haven't said to you should be mad, and then we 714 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: went back. It was here's the problem that was bothers 715 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: into me, Mike, is that if you're fighting with your girlfriend, 716 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: you have to fix it so she can still be 717 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: your girlfriend. You know, Sharne is not my girlfriend. I 718 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: still gotta fix it. And I was like, I gotta 719 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: fix this. I gotta like I getta. But it did 720 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: because I knew we would be together for a while, 721 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: and we said and we talked and I explained why 722 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I right or wrong did what I did. And I 723 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: promise I was never gonna surprise you again. But what 724 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: if I would have said to Searn, I want to 725 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: plause at the end of this dance, what would you 726 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: have really said? I mean mean, who told you not to? 727 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: I would have told you it wasn't the time to 728 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: do it. I know you would have. But then I 729 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: text you later that night and I was like, I 730 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: trust you implicitly, do you and don't change right? No, No, 731 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: you did, And I'm gonna get to that because we 732 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: had we just had a talk where we started understanding. 733 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that was a great thing for our growth 734 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: as together. Probably when we sat in the trailer for 735 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: five minutes and we're just like all guts out, we 736 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: were just I think that was good for us because 737 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: we both had to one let one wall down and 738 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: to kind of establish, hey, we both have a thing 739 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: that we're doing here, right. I think that was good 740 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: for us. And you would have said no, I know 741 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: you would have said. I would have said you said no, 742 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: and then I would have done it. You would have 743 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: got double piste because I would have done it and 744 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: you would have already said no. I do not like 745 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: being in the dock about things. I do not like it. 746 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: No one does. But do it again, and I'm not 747 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: doing it again. Not again. I actually punched you on 748 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: live tele and you would at this point, I know 749 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it again, but I will say that, um, 750 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: I promised you that I'm not gonna do anything like 751 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: that any more. Surprises, yes, most surprises. So and this 752 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: next dance is serious and it's perfect timing, and you 753 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: picked a great serious what do you call it? A contemporary? Yeah? Contemporary? Well, 754 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's really your story. So the dance, this 755 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: is all this is you. Yeah, this is what I do. 756 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: F you designed all of telling the story, by all 757 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the movements, and but you're also known you. You're gonna 758 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: say this because you already kind of jumped around it. 759 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: You're also known around that place as the best choreographer. 760 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: Like that's what they know you as. Like they say, Searn, Oh, 761 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: she's the best choreographer of the group. That's what they 762 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: tell me. They're like, you got lucky because you don't 763 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. But she knows what she's doing, 764 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: not just how to dance, but how to create and 765 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: inside of you know, the square or whatever they call 766 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: the ball or I don't know what that is. And 767 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: ball room is not like just ball room dancing. Does 768 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: that count? Is like jive? Is that ball room? Yeah? 769 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: So well, specifically, ballroom dancing is made up of ten 770 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: different dances, which is two different styles as the standard 771 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: style and the Latin American style. Standard is waltz, tango, 772 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: fox struck, quickstep, Viennese waltz, and then the Latin American 773 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: side of things is chatch our, rumper, samba, pacative land. 774 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: I've any of that means, yeah, that was all just Chinese, right. 775 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: I was asking her about the Vietnamese waltz, Na, what 776 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: is it? What do you want to do? What's your goal? 777 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: In five years. What do you want to do my 778 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: goal in five years. I love to act. I love 779 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: to I'm getting I've gotten back into singing over the 780 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: last twelve months as well, and I really enjoyed that too. 781 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: But I've had this feeling I'm gonna end up in hosting. 782 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: I love talking for a living and enjoy talking to 783 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: people and conversing with people, and I want to continue 784 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: to build on this platform that I have because I 785 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: really like that I get to have a voice and 786 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: I get to inspire people and I get to create 787 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: change with it if I want to. And I don't 788 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: take that for granted. And I see things in my 789 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: future where I get to um make a difference specifically 790 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: for women, best and worst. Let me do you real quick. 791 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: The best thing is that you figured out how I work, 792 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: meaning I just want to work. There's no And at 793 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: first it was like, hey, you gotta like stop doing 794 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: math probabilities in your head, Bobby, you like, stop stop 795 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: walking to the corner, because I'll be like right foot 796 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: the apple dashed forward seven nine. But I think you 797 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: know now that when I show up, I'm there, I'm early, 798 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm ready to work. I'm working when I get home 799 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: and we just work. You don't have to coddle me. Nope, 800 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: you don't call me no, I definitely don't even But 801 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: when I'm tough on you, even sometimes I'm still like, 802 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I'm not being nice to say. What 803 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: do I say when you say that you don't need 804 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: me to be Yeah, I'm like, I don't need you 805 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: to be nice, Like you treat me consistent, And that's 806 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: the most important way you can treat someone because I 807 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: just know that if you're then if you become in consistent, 808 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: it's true. Like if you're consistent with me all the 809 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: time and you do go oh, hey that's really bad, 810 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: stop doing that. I know it's really bad. Or if 811 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: you go, hey that's really good, I still flinch, but 812 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: I know it's good. I say things are awful, Yeah, 813 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: look that was awful. Why do you do that? What 814 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: is that? And I'm like, we're going so good? Tell 815 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: me what that was? Why do I not like that? Um? 816 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: So that's the best thing is I think consistency is 817 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: currency and I love it. I'm totally as long as 818 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: you're the same, and you are. Um. The worst thing 819 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: is that you're just late. I know. It just drives 820 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: me up the wall, up the freaking wall, because you're 821 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: earlier every time. There. I mean, I gotta wreck. I 822 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: got a car wreck, and I was six minutes late, 823 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: and so always ten minutes late. Yeah, well so okay, 824 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: and we'll work on that. I'll work on that. Way. 825 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: We've been to this for forty minutes. That went really quick. 826 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: Oh we could do three hours. I'm an expert at 827 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: this and you're good, so we we'd be good. We 828 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: do this all the time anyway, just with no microphones. 829 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: We'll do it again again. This is like a human 830 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: time Shanna Burges dot com. What can they see and 831 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: find out there? Shana dot com. We'll lead you to 832 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: actually my shop that has a whole lot of my 833 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: dance cardio workouts, which a really favorite thing of mine 834 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: that I'm doing right now to help people get to 835 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: move and understand how to dance and gain confidence in 836 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: their body. It's something that you can attest soon now too. 837 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: And having just danced for a little while, a whole 838 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: bunch of merchandise that is female empowerment inspired and just 839 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 1: all things me basically, a little bit of a blog, 840 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, and we're gonna go and 841 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: we're flying to California right now because it's a sad Saturday. 842 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: All sense of days has gone with a Saturday. Yeah, 843 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: uh we go and Monday we're on again. Hopefully we'll 844 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: make it to the next round. And thank you all. 845 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: Please keep voting, like that's how we're going to get 846 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna get. Sure we're not to Nach or 847 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: DeMarcus like people that have quickly a natural ability. Yeah, 848 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: like it's going to be my people, and then we're 849 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: gonna get better as my people help us. Like that's real, 850 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: that's really gonna be it. So uh good, Jeff, Fine, 851 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: this is good for you, This is amazing. Let's do 852 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: it again, all right, Shawnabrow just episode one forty one, 853 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: one forty one. Thanks for listening to the Bobby Cast. 854 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. M