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Speaker 1: Flurring Rage taking over. Here's Paul CALVISI I'm ready. I'm

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Speaker 1: role as a special team's captain is however I can

424
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Speaker 1: help you, I want to, and I don't want to

425
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Speaker 1: tie him up too much either. You're still gonna be

426
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: able to play on all the teams, even though they're

427
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Speaker 1: counting on you for such a big role off the edge.

428
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Speaker 1: I'm prepared to do it. I love special teams. I've

429
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: said in countless times. I think kickoff is the most

430
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: football play out there. That's why we start games with them.

431
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: So again, that would probably be a Jeff Rogers question,

432
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Speaker 1: but um, I'm ready to do it. A big happening

433
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: in your off season obviously, was the three year contract

434
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Speaker 1: extension for someone who was an undrafted free agent auto

435
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: Division two school. What'd that do for you? We know

436
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: financially what that does for you, but what does it

437
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: I don't know for your mindset, your confidence, what was

438
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: that like that moment um. It's just awesome to be

439
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: with the same organization for another three years. You know,

440
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: as as an undrafted guy, you never really know when

441
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get that tap on the shoulder, Hey,

442
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: bring your iPad up. So I think it's really special

443
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: for it to be with the Arizona Cardinals. You know

444
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: that that contract wouldn't mean as much if it wasn't with,

445
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, the team that took a chance on me.

446
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: I think that's so awesome to still be here and

447
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: excited to uh continue to work. We never asked you

448
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: what it was like at Sioux Falls or West Virginia stated.

449
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Rodney Gunter right he went to

450
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Delaware State, and he told us it was twenty fifteen,

451
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: he was a rookie. They'd have maybe three four hundred

452
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: people at a game, and then he's playing in the

453
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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game on international TV. Though, What was it

454
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: like at D two for you and and and it

455
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: just I mean, was there a shock factor coming to

456
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: the NFL? Yeah? Absolutely, Um West Virginia State, it was

457
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: family and three drunk volleyball girls. That's that's who we

458
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Speaker 1: could count on for attendance. Um, that's what I always

459
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: tell people. U Souo Falls. We had a little we

460
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a crowd, but um, I

461
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: remember I think it was our first open practice, or

462
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Speaker 1: my first red and white practice of being completely amped out,

463
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: because there were more people at that that scrimmage than

464
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Speaker 1: I had ever played in front of since probably high school.

465
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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardack I guest on the on the Big Red Rage. Um.

466
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Speaker 1: When you see your Week one opponent Patrick Mahomes, and

467
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: they just posted a stat that in four Week one

468
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: games in his career he's four and oh a thirteen touchdowns,

469
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: zero picks, and a passer rating to one thirty four.

470
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Speaker 1: It's never too early to talk about your first opponent.

471
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? And just just the

472
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Speaker 1: prospect of going against one of the great quarterbacks in

473
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Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, just a wonderful opportunity to test kind

474
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Speaker 1: of all the work and preparation that we've put in.

475
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a great, a great way

476
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Speaker 1: to come out of the off season, preseason into the

477
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Speaker 1: regular season, coming out hot. I asked my j Sanders,

478
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Speaker 1: is there a quarterback you really want to sack. He immediately,

479
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Speaker 1: without hesitation, said, Tom Brady, is there a guy maybe

480
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Speaker 1: on your list, you know, atop of the list. You're like, Man,

481
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: I'd like I'd like to get to that guy. Whoever

482
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Speaker 1: our opponent is that week. I'm trying to get home

483
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Speaker 1: each and every week. I'm as hungry as I am.

484
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: You know, when we play Tampa as we do Kansas City.

485
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Speaker 1: You know that's good. We wrap it up here with

486
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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardek. By the way, we asked Justin Pugh about

487
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Speaker 1: your head coach, speaking of contract extensions. He just mentioned

488
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: how Cliff, how much more comfortable Cliff is, how much

489
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: more assertive he is in meeting rooms, on the field,

490
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: on and off the field. Just dude, what have you

491
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Speaker 1: seen from from your head coach year in his fourth year?

492
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just to reiterate pew Um, just the

493
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Speaker 1: leadership aspect of things, Just just being able to like,

494
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: that's my guy, that he's always been the guy, but

495
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: definitely got everybody rallied behind him, and you can feel

496
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: a difference this year. He just counts on you guys.

497
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: He's not someone who's gonna take it upon himself to

498
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Speaker 1: really motivate this team. He's counting on you guys to

499
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: be self motivated as professionals, right, isn't that basically his

500
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: approached to this whole camp in a lot of ways. Yeah,

501
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's as a professional. I don't

502
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: think it should be on anybody other than you know,

503
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: who's stepping on that field to get going. Obviously, leaders

504
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: on each side of the ball is very important, but

505
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're on the field,

506
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: so we're the ones that should be accountable for that.

507
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: What was the attendance again for West Virginia State? Who

508
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: was in attendance for those games? That was simply family

509
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: and four drunk volleyball girls. Yeah, that's good. That's good, Dennis,

510
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Speaker 1: Thank you as always, all right, thank you, all right,

511
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Speaker 1: there you go, Dennis Gardeck, our guest on the Big

512
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Red Rachel be back. Right after this first down of

513
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals forty three snap two McSorley play fake sets

514
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: up in the pocket, looks deep, fires over the middle,

515
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: cop fight Dorch at the thirty yard line, turns right

516
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: to the twenty five and dropped of the twenty two.

517
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Speaker 1: Greg Dorch. We watched it every day in practice, even

518
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Speaker 1: all last year when he was on scout team. He's

519
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: got a tremendous ability to make plays. I've said it

520
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: throughout camp. His biggest deal was just getting our offense

521
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: downpat where he knows it inside and out is coming

522
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: forward and play fast within our system and consistently do that. Yeah, Titans.

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Speaker 1: DB's found out the hard way yesterday at the joint practice.

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Speaker 1: Greg door Chad heck of a practice. So did Andy Isabella.

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Speaker 1: It is a big red rage presented by santan Ford

526
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. You go on Twitter

527
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: and anything time you mentioned to Greg Dortch, you show

528
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: one of his highlights, someone always comes back with you

529
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: got dorched. And there have been a lot of guys

530
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Speaker 1: who have looked bad going against Greg Dorch in this

531
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Speaker 1: training camp so far, Wolf, how impressed have you been? Yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: I know he's been Fantastict Dorch the torch right. He's

533
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: been a guy that has led the team in targets

534
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: the first two games. Andy Isabella very very close second

535
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Speaker 1: as well. But Greg Dorch has competed, no doubt, so

536
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: is Andy Isabella. Those two guys have had great training camps.

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00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: He gets separation Greg Dortch. He just he I haven't

538
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: seen him really drop it past yet and maybe one.

539
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: Literally he's got great hands, he makes the plays, he's consistent,

540
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: he met the media. Was one of the most memorable

541
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Speaker 1: press conferences on his that I've sat through in a

542
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: long time, where he said, in a quote, I'm not

543
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: a big guy. I'm rarely not even supposed to be here.

544
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: I went undrafted, I was cut five times my first

545
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: couple of years. Just the perseverance, you know, just the

546
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: mental fortitude to keep going with his career and when

547
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: they list him, list him at five to seven a

548
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: buck something. I mean, honestly, even our radio engineer, after

549
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: I did the postgame interview Wolf after Baltimore, he said,

550
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: paul there's not many guys that you look out eye with. Yeah,

551
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: you're right. You know what's really interesting as well, Paulie.

552
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to just gloss over that, because

553
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: you do give us that belt highs back there on

554
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: a game day basis. Let me just say that I

555
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: think the wide receiver room in the running back room

556
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: are the two most contested rooms on this entire roster.

557
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a surprise to anybody that

558
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: really has been following the Cardinals and knows that the

559
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are loaded at running back and wide receive. Ever,

560
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Speaker 1: and I really do believe that because if in fact

561
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella and Greg Dortch are going to continue to

562
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: develop the way that they have shown in this preseason,

563
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be quality football players in the NFL. They

564
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Speaker 1: are not saying they're going to the Pro Bowl, Paul.

565
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that all of a sudden, the Arizona

566
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Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to win the Super Bowl because of

567
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Speaker 1: Greg Dortch and Aye Isabella. I'm not saying that. What

568
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: I am saying is Andy Isabella and this training camp,

569
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Speaker 1: to me is the most improved player year to year,

570
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Speaker 1: most improved player that I've seen. And Greg Dortch has

571
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Speaker 1: exceeded his output in games in the first two preseason games.

572
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this and I'm thinking to myself

573
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Speaker 1: right now, how many wide receivers. Is Cliff Kingsbury gonna

574
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: keep six? That's what I say, six. Traditionally that's what

575
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: he keeps. But think about it. You want answers to

576
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: questions going into camp. The question was, okay, Andy Isabella

577
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Speaker 1: Greg Dortche, are they really gonna make the Final fifty three?

578
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a question anymore. Based on your

579
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: big four DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown, Rondelle More, AJ Green okay,

580
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: and then Antoine Wesley would make this team. We'll make

581
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: this team. Is he gonna start on pop? What exactly

582
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: is the deal with a hip slash groin injury? We

583
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: don't know. But because of that, because of DeAndre Hopkins

584
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: being suspended the first six games, because of I don't

585
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: know the mystery around Rondale More, what is his status exactly? Yes,

586
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Greg Dortche and Andy Isabella I think are gonna be

587
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: on this Final fifty three at least to start the season. Yeah,

588
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: don't you right now? Well, I do kind of feel

589
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: that way, PAULI. So much of it has got to

590
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: do with Tweezy Antoine Wesley exactly what it is that

591
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: his status is and what's gonna happen there? Man, As

592
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: you know special teams, it matters so much. And that's

593
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: the reason why Greg Dorche, you know, you gotta believe

594
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Greg Dorch is definitely gonna make this team. Well, I'll

595
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: put it this way. As a kick return, he has

596
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: been fantastic. In fact, just listen to a j Green

597
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: after the joint practice here in Nashville what he had

598
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: to say about Greg Dortch and Andy Isabella. I'll tell

599
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: everybody about dortsche Man. He's just like his field for

600
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: the game, his hands, his mentality every day is unmatched.

601
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: It don't matter who you put. You put a first

602
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: running from him. We know what's gonna happen. Like he's

603
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna eat him up. Um. That's his mentality

604
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: each day. So Andy Dortsch, those guys, man, I go

605
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: home and to him, I watch every day about how

606
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: they work. Howdy do un complain? They has come out

607
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: there and work each day. Man, That makes me want

608
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: to work every day. You know what I mean. That's

609
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: a seven time Pro Bowl receiver says he goes home

610
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Speaker 1: and tells his wife how much he appreciates watching Greg

611
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Dortche Andy Isabella on the way they work. So that's

612
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: saying something. I will say this. In that Baltimore game,

613
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Speaker 1: the last preseason game, Andy Isabella had those three at

614
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: least three first down catches. One was a sliding grab

615
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: and then he drew this ball. Then the thirty seven

616
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: yard Pi, he drew and it was all a national TV.

617
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: And I said in the talk back to our producer

618
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: Jim Amhandro, he's made a team. It may not be

619
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, but he's gonna be in week one

620
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: on it because other teams are watching this and if

621
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals cut him, he will get signed instantly. But

622
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Speaker 1: you have another theory as to what might happen to

623
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Speaker 1: and Andy Isabella and another team. And it's only because

624
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella is progressing so well. As I said, I

625
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: believe he's the most improved Arizona Cardinal year to year

626
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: on the roster. Right now, boy, I'll tell you he's

627
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: got the attention. This is a guy that is a

628
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Speaker 1: smart guy, A guy that was an engineer, PAULI, a

629
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Speaker 1: guy that was a math major, and now all of

630
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Speaker 1: a sudden, a guy that can run a four to three. Paul,

631
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Speaker 1: can you run a four to three? Because this guy

632
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: can run I can't even do the math. This guy,

633
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Speaker 1: I'm over two. This guy can run a four or three.

634
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, look at him catch

635
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: the ball away from his body. Look at him catching

636
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: the balls. His hands are so much better. Do you

637
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: see what he does. After every practice ball he goes

638
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: to the jugs machine. Boom boom, boom boom. I don't

639
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: know how many he catches, Pollie, but it's not twenty.

640
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how many catches. It's not sixty. I

641
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: don't know how many he catches, but it's a lot, Paul,

642
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: he catches a lot of balls after every practice. Right now,

643
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: I love his work ethic. He's going to get the

644
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to play somewhere. It looks like the light bulb

645
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: has gone on in the shed for Andy Isabella right now.

646
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: That's good because the Arizona Cardinals have the option of

647
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: keeping him, of course, or now all of a sudden, Paul,

648
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: we know that the corner room is a room of

649
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: interest with the Cardinals, and not for great reasons. The

650
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: corner back room is going to be an area where

651
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: maybe a pick and a player. I feel this is

652
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: just me pure speculation. I feel a kime time trade

653
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: coming on at some point in time for a corner Well,

654
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: if teams a watching Andy Isabella, you know you gotta

655
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: figure they're interested. Other teams don't have nearly the receiving

656
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: depth the Arizona Cardinals do, and then when you're what

657
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury has to say about Isabella. All right, this

658
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: is the head coach on Isabella's camp. So far, I

659
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: couldn't be more impressed with the way he's attacked this camp.

660
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's practiced every single day, doesn't miss a rep.

661
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, can play inside outside, and he continues to

662
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: run by people out here in these preseason games and

663
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: has had some huge fast in afference calls and made

664
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: some big catches on third down. So I gotta give

665
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: him a ton of credit for how he's worked and

666
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: we'll see how it all shakes out. He keeps getting

667
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: behind secondaries, he did it against Tennessee. And then speaking

668
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: of press conferences, you know, after the game against Baltimore,

669
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: he told the media just how much he thinks he's

670
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: grown about tenfold just as a man. These are his words,

671
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: I've grown and matured. And then he said he hit

672
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: zoom out. He said it might be too late here,

673
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: but I know in the future that the lessons I've

674
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: learned here playing will take me a long way in life.

675
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: And he says that this is the best football he's

676
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: been playing. He has complete confidence. Well, if remember a

677
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. We haven't on the big red rage.

678
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: And the big thing for him was confidence. He needed

679
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: to know that he belonged in the NFL and then

680
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: he can make place. It looks like he's reached that stage.

681
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: And then he went on to say and and he

682
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: just sort of said a matter of factly, but it

683
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: really resonated that they might have stacked the odds against me,

684
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: But that doesn't phase me. They can do whatever they want.

685
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: They ain't going to break me. Andy Isabella, how about

686
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: that right there, Paul. I mean, honestly, I see him

687
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: as a Cole Beasley, a Cole Beasley type of Danny

688
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: mndola type. As a matter of Wes Welker, Paul, that's

689
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: a Wes Welker who's running a four three. I don't know.

690
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean right now, I'd be really really I'd be

691
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: up pacing the room if our Steve Kaying And I

692
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: was thinking about trading that kid, because those guys you

693
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: just name, they're not burners. They're not a secondary in

694
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: the dust. We have seen him do repeatedly get behind coverages.

695
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: Yet he could run all that short and intermediate stuff

696
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: that maybe Wes Welker and Danny Amendola and guys like

697
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: him have for a long long time. So once again,

698
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: d Hop, Hollywood Brown, Rondale Moore, AJ Green, they're on

699
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: this team. And then Antoine Wesley, what's his status physically?

700
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, He's made this team. So there's Andy Isabella

701
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: in the crosshairs. Yep, what do you do if you're

702
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Steve con Gonna be really interesting, remember final cuts August thirtieth,

703
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: and Cliff Kingsbury said today after this final preseason game

704
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: against the Titans, it's going to be sooner than later

705
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: they make their decisions and make it known to the guys.

706
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: Hey Cardinals season tickets available now. Go to asy Cardinals

707
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: dot com slash season for more info. What are we

708
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: watching in this third and final preseason game that is

709
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: next on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

710
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: in Gilbert. You know the people at Jack we're worried

711
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: to see if Wilfley was coming back today to see

712
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: if he was gonna eat him a house at home

713
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: that Adrian that was just egregious of gratuitous, wasn't Wilfley

714
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: has really taken advantage of this whole day when Rome,

715
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: you know you act like a Roman when in Nashville,

716
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: go on down and get you some marbaecue. Not only

717
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: did he order the combo plate, which might as well

718
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: have been the family platter, he then got a side

719
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: of the pulled pork. Absolutely. I mean, this guy is

720
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: a definition of a barber's disposal. I mean he's ever

721
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: doing his saye. That was exactly twelve years ago here

722
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: in Nashville at a different hotel, a different addition to

723
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: the big Red Rage presented by Santan Board and Gilbert.

724
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: We are Santan Pard. That was Adrian Wilson, who still

725
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: gives you a hard time to this day. Yeah he does, Paul,

726
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: what's your point. I mean the worst day of my

727
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: life when he got his fifth Pro Bowl, right, that

728
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: was which day of mine which you spoke into existence

729
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: by taunting him repeatedly for many years that he would

730
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: never get to four. Not only did he get to four,

731
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: he got to five. And so there you go. That's

732
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: called speaking into existence and the karma of it all.

733
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: That's also back when you were really putting the full

734
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: into former fullback. Let's just say that. So we'll see

735
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: where does it stand this year. The trip to Jack's barbecue,

736
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Dave Pash said earlier on a text message, what is

737
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: it up to eight at this point? Wolf, you've been

738
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: here a few days. No, Paula, you've actually been to

739
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Jacks more than I have. It's true. I'm just trying

740
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: to avoid the next interview here and the Buddha Baker

741
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: interview that got a little sideways for yours truly. As

742
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: you'll hear in the middle of this, there was a

743
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Hard Knock promo featuring Buddha Baker in the weight room

744
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: and he picked up a couple of heavy dumbbells, and

745
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: I was trying to compliment him. As you'll hear here,

746
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: it didn't really come out that way as intended. And

747
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: speaking of feeling the wrath, Adrian Wilson to you was

748
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker to me, here's Buddha on the Hard Knox promo.

749
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: Oh to shrugs, Yeah, I think I saw myself. Yeah

750
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: that was one tens, baby, So I was pretty heavy

751
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: than your body weight. Ah, you got jokes? One ten,

752
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: come on much? Okay? Combined? Yeah? Okay, feel better now.

753
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: I I when he said one tens, I said, okay,

754
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: thinking he's combining them to twenty more than his body weight.

755
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: But it didn't come out that way, at least he

756
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: didn't hear it that way. And so then he's so

757
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: back at me. Okay, he's like he's like, oh, funny guy,

758
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, and he's looking at Paul pencil neck. And

759
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: then he threw in a fudge in there, you know,

760
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: and to keep it clean and family, uh you know,

761
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: so you oh yeah, yeah, we found that out more

762
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: than once on the Big Red Rage. So I gotta

763
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: find Bododha. I gotta explain myself, but yeah, I felt

764
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: the wrath well as you know my ads shake case.

765
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: He calls it a purse. I said, Boodam, it is

766
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: not a purse. He also said that the great thing

767
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: about joint practices there his words now is that the

768
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: same old jokes you use all the time, but you

769
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: have a new audience when you go against another team,

770
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: so you get some cheap laughs that way, when you

771
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: have a new it's out there. So dude, all right,

772
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: So Buddha Baker has his spot all sealed up. We

773
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: know that, but what about backup safety? To me, that's

774
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: a big question mark because we've seen some erratic play

775
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: behind Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson so far Tay Daily

776
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: at a pick six yesterday, but he's pretty far down

777
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: in the depth chart and just makes you wonder going

778
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: into this final preseason game. In fact, he was the

779
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: question of Cliff Kingsbury. Here you go, the head coach,

780
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: how many spots are still up for grabs. There's quite

781
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: a few. There's some good position battles, and I know, corner,

782
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: like we've talked about all along, We're going to see

783
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: how that shakes out. And you know, running back, it's

784
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: the deep room. You can see all this. You guys

785
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: are making plays, so's there's there's some good battles going on. Yeah,

786
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: that really is. It is some good high competition going

787
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: on right now in the wide receiver room, I would say,

788
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: and the running back room in particular. We already talked

789
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: a little bit about the wide receiver room preseason, especially

790
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: the last game. Paulie, you want to look at who's playing,

791
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: who plays, and who gets the vast majority of the reps,

792
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: especially now that there's not any preseason game number four

793
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: for the most part, you've got two weeks off before

794
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: your first game. I really do believe that who plays

795
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: and why are you playing him. I'll give you a

796
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: perfect example on this. Sometimes you're playing a guy. You're

797
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: giving him a lot of reps because you want to

798
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: see him, You want to take a look at him,

799
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: because you want to make sure he's either your guy

800
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: or he's not gonna be he or a guy right,

801
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: So you're giving him the opportunity. Many times, you might

802
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: be giving him that opportunity so you can showcase him

803
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: in a trade. You can actually showcase him to another team.

804
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you're just giving him the opportunity to go out

805
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: there because you know you are going to cut him

806
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: and give him a lot of reps so that a

807
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: team might look at him and want him that running

808
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: back room. Think about it, James Connor, he's not playing.

809
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: He's obviously your word Corse. Pro Bowl running back Jonathan

810
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: Warred up he was gonna make the team anyway. Now

811
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: you have count to Ingram the rookie, you have Eno

812
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: Benjamin right, and you have Daryl Williams. Well, I think

813
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: those three guys are gonna split a lot of carries

814
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: against the Titans because they need to figure out there's

815
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: only two spots for three guys. Yes, Now, whether one

816
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: gets traded or not, I don't know, but that is

817
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: a heated competition. That is a heated competition, and punt

818
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: pro holds the key. Who's on the first team. Punt

819
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: Pro paul look at that always because you don't want

820
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: to train new guys for that first game against the

821
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Paulie look to see who is starting

822
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: on the punt pro when that game starts, right, and

823
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: that really tells you an awful lot about, Oh, you

824
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: know what, we think. This guy is gonna be our

825
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: right guard, this guy's gonna be our left tackle, and

826
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to mess with that continuity because of

827
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: how important punt pro is to a football game. Zamon Collins,

828
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, are they gonna play against the tight? Good question?

829
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury didn't quite answer it said it'll be a

830
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: game time decision because Marco Wilson, as of right now

831
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: absent Antonio Hamilton. And there's some mystery as to what

832
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: exactly is the deal with Antonio Hamilton. They're not offering

833
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: up that information right now. Marco Wilson, who needed the refs?

834
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, if he's your number two corner,

835
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: can you afford putting him out? There, Zavin Collins, if

836
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: you see him out there? What does that mean exactly?

837
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: We'll see special thanks to Dennis Gardeck. How about Dennis

838
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Gardeck saying I feel like I'm playing fast again. Yeah,

839
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: it looks like it doesn't him? Yes? And then music

840
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: to your ears when he said kickoff is the most

841
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: football play out there without a dog ball special Thanks

842
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: to Dennis Gardeck. Gardeck the Barbarians Special. Thanks as always,

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