Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi my friend.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited, me too. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that we've never crossed paths.
Speaker 2: Okay, we My producer and I were just talking about
Speaker 2: this because in my mind, I'm like, no, we're friends.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and then she's like, when's the
Speaker 2: last time you saw Deranda? And I was like, the
Speaker 2: lines blur because I watch her on TV. I'm a
Speaker 2: big fan, and I was like, I can't remember. We
Speaker 2: stop it. We've never met in person.
Speaker 1: God, I was gonna say this because I thought it
Speaker 1: would sound weird, but I thought we'd met before too,
Speaker 1: because I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, and then you couldn't place it.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have met.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: Here we are finally, So this is this is great.
Speaker 1: This is very exciting for me. You know, you are
Speaker 1: part of my history. Oh my gosh, you're a friend
Speaker 1: of my historyan Hannahs and you know we've we've we
Speaker 1: all grew up with you and your family. So this
Speaker 1: is real good great.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Well I adore you. I loved you
Speaker 2: on Real Housewives of New York and I'm just going
Speaker 2: to tell you right now. I am such a fan
Speaker 2: that when the og cast was gone, I was gone, Wow.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's a you know, it's a touchy situation.
Speaker 1: I never liked that. Listen. I think it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: always hard when they try, don't you find, even with
Speaker 1: these series, when they replace people and put a new
Speaker 1: person or try to, you know, remake this, you can
Speaker 1: never replace nostalgia, you know, nostalgia. I would say it
Speaker 1: about New York City. I you know, New York City
Speaker 1: is going through a rough time right now, but for me,
Speaker 1: I'm living in nostalgia. So nostalgia will always be the
Speaker 1: New York City that I've lived in twenty years. And
Speaker 1: he can't replace that, right, And I think it's comforting.
Speaker 1: It's comforting. People grow up with you, they have references
Speaker 1: they you know, and more than ever, God knows we
Speaker 1: need comfort right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, I'm sorry to hear about your family home.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I was one.
Speaker 2: I'm shocking. I literally found out on I was watching
Speaker 2: like some news thing on my phone. We were all
Speaker 2: locked into our phones trying to figure out what was
Speaker 2: going on, and I was like, well, cost a beach.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's my family's beach. And then I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I found out there and I texted my mom
Speaker 2: like is this true, and like yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it just goes to show you. But
Speaker 1: you know, it really puts these times and our lives
Speaker 1: put things in perspective. We worry so much about stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff,
Speaker 1: and one day it's all gone and you just got
Speaker 1: to keep on moving, right. I mean, it's heartbreaking, but
Speaker 1: really that's the truth of it. It's just stuff.
Speaker 2: It's so true. Going back to Real Housewives and the
Speaker 2: OJ like, I just got to say, I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel I'm in the same boat with you, just because
Speaker 2: you know, there was the original nine O two and
Speaker 2: oh and god bless c W did we were Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills nine O two and oh. In two thousand and
Speaker 2: nine they did c w's nine O two and oh
Speaker 2: whole new cast and it was a great show, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't nine O two and oh.
Speaker 3: Well that's you had to take it that And I
Speaker 3: think when you start off like they did and you
Speaker 3: just say, okay, season thirteen it's these girls, and then
Speaker 3: season thirteen they're gone and this now you don't love
Speaker 3: these girls.
Speaker 1: I think the audience gets very confused, and then there's
Speaker 1: this bizarre sense of loyalty that people you just lose.
Speaker 1: You may even it goes far to say you may
Speaker 1: get people that just make a decision. I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want the new I know I do
Speaker 1: that in my life, like when something a new ownership
Speaker 1: of a restaurant or they changed, I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go there anymore. It's sort of a
Speaker 1: human reaction. And I always said, and you know, I
Speaker 1: hope I don't get in trouble when I say this,
Speaker 1: but you know, it would have been really because these
Speaker 1: girls are the new New York. I mean they are
Speaker 1: I don't know what that girl looks like anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: just turned sixty, and you know, the New York that
Speaker 1: they're raising their children in and working and doing that.
Speaker 1: But it should have been called something more like the
Speaker 1: Girls of New York or the Girlfriends of New York
Speaker 1: or the something, because then I think it really would
Speaker 1: have allowed more of an easy jump. You know, that's
Speaker 1: a big jump from those girls. I mean it was
Speaker 1: even a big jump for me to join it sixth season.
Speaker 1: You know, I came in you know, halfway through the
Speaker 1: seasons and you know, those grinds very established.
Speaker 2: I was hesitant to accept you because I'd been a
Speaker 2: fan from season one.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I had to lake up because you know,
Speaker 1: I knew I knew all these girls for like one
Speaker 1: hundred years. When we know each other's kids and we
Speaker 1: live I don't know if you know the Upper East Side,
Speaker 1: but we need to live on the Upper East Sides,
Speaker 1: like these are the people in your neighborhood. So we
Speaker 1: really were, you know, all connected, and so I think
Speaker 1: it made it easier for them and made it easier
Speaker 1: for the audience because we had the connective tissue, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know any signs. I know Burke Dwarfs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I know. You know what my model
Speaker 1: is in life, toy, I will go to dinner with
Speaker 1: you before five o'clock above Burkedorfs. After five o'clock. Do
Speaker 1: not invite me to anything past Burgdorf Goodman. I refuse.
Speaker 1: If it's fast Burgdorff Goodman, I do not go that.
Speaker 2: I love that. I need to find that version in
Speaker 2: la I just don't go out. I have five kids.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's unbelievable. You have five kids, Oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, except for single now. So I guess I
Speaker 2: got to start going out again. I got to recreate
Speaker 2: myself at fifty one.
Speaker 1: Do Yeah, that's the thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean you unfortunately went through having to start over again.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I mean how old are your kids?
Speaker 2: Seventeen, sixteen, thirteen, twelve and seven.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Tori.
Speaker 2: Derenda. Yes, it is.
Speaker 1: I mean you have one that's on the leg out
Speaker 1: and still one that are very little.
Speaker 2: They're never leaving, none of minor leaving. And if I
Speaker 2: beg them too, No, I'm kidding. I'm that mom. That's like,
Speaker 2: I just want to compound one day so we can
Speaker 2: all have like properties. I agree to live together.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that's why I love I always have
Speaker 1: that fantasy about keeping bluestone manner forever, because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can build a house for Hannah, and because I
Speaker 1: have eighteen acres and we can just you know, Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't know if Hannah has
Speaker 1: that fantasy, that's where the glitch goes.
Speaker 2: How old is Hannah now?
Speaker 1: She's thirty one, but she's at back at school she's
Speaker 1: gonna PhD so you know you can't. You know, she's
Speaker 1: God knows her hand. It's gonna end up. I'll probably
Speaker 1: end up in some condo outside of Palm Beach or
Speaker 1: something like with all the other all the other New Yorkers.
Speaker 2: Not something sexy though we are you dating?
Speaker 1: I haven't been dating. I've tried. I haven't been dating
Speaker 1: lately because I've been so busy and so disinterested. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is I want to want to date.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I want to dance and date.
Speaker 1: I love people. I don't have any bad feelings towards men.
Speaker 1: My experiences with both my partner's husbands, but it was
Speaker 1: very good. I just think what happens is well. First
Speaker 1: of all, I think when you when you get you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, it just turns sixty. Yeah, your tolerance
Speaker 1: goes down like we used to be, like, you know,
Speaker 1: just bullshit. Not that I was ever overly tolerant, and
Speaker 1: also too, I think because I became so fiercely independent
Speaker 1: after Richard passed that and created this really fun world
Speaker 1: like I have a fun free world that really I
Speaker 1: come and go as I please, like I am a
Speaker 1: lone wolf and I managed to seek out these other
Speaker 1: people that I've known for twenty or thirty years, maybe
Speaker 1: either gotten divorced or just been part of my life
Speaker 1: or our partnered and we're kind of a gang. And
Speaker 1: we vacation together. And that's maybe not a good thing,
Speaker 1: because sometimes when you're too comfortable and too happy, you
Speaker 1: do two things. You don't seek out food and you
Speaker 1: gain weight. You know, a hungry animal is a successful animal.
Speaker 2: Right, comfortable and happy sounds good to me. Have you
Speaker 2: ever gotten in one of those dating apps?
Speaker 1: Yes, I have. I was on what's the one called?
Speaker 1: I was on for the.
Speaker 2: League that talk to me.
Speaker 1: The league is a good one. The league is like
Speaker 1: the LinkedIn of of dating apps. It's a little more curated,
Speaker 1: and they're they're very like, you know, career type, like
Speaker 1: a LinkedIn I tried. I applied to Raya like a
Speaker 1: year ago. I have every recommendation in the world, but
Speaker 1: I'm still on a wait list.
Speaker 2: What I know. Let me talk to somebody about this.
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. We could swipe together, yeah, exactly, And
Speaker 2: I say, no, not everybody.
Speaker 1: It's someone the other night said I should go on Hinge.
Speaker 1: But I don't like how would someone like you or
Speaker 1: me go on a hinge like I just that that's
Speaker 1: a page six article.
Speaker 2: Which is why Riah is supposed to be. It's so
Speaker 2: secretive and I don't know the dating apps. I'm I
Speaker 2: was married for eighteen years, together for twenty like there
Speaker 2: weren't dating app and then when I had single friends,
Speaker 2: I had so much fun. I'd be like swiping for them, yes, no,
Speaker 2: great grade. It was all fun and games because it
Speaker 2: was their shit right. And now people are like, you
Speaker 2: got to get on dating apps. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to. No, I don't want like I don't come
Speaker 2: from that generation. I guess where you meet somebody online?
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I don't judge anybody that does it.
Speaker 1: I will say this when I do put in the effort,
Speaker 1: and I do put the word out because you know,
Speaker 1: and I you know it does I do start dating,
Speaker 1: Like dating for me is not. I don't find dating like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't meet people, you can't do that. It's so hard.
Speaker 1: I think there's always people to me. I think you
Speaker 1: have to have an openness, you know, but that just
Speaker 1: life takes over. You get busy, you're I'm sort of here,
Speaker 1: I'm in the Berkshires, I travel, I get focused on Hannah,
Speaker 1: I get focused on work. I have elderly parents, and
Speaker 1: I just life sort of takes up a lot of
Speaker 1: my space. So I'm not I am making excuses. I think,
Speaker 1: if I to be honest with you, I would like
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five to prioritize it. But I think
Speaker 1: I have to literally prioritize it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm feeling a show here. Should we call Bravo?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, But thinking about it, I said to my
Speaker 1: friend Greg last night, I'm going to make sure that
Speaker 1: I'm in the city Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursday nights, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to start meeting new people and accepting dates
Speaker 1: because I'm always like, oh, I ninety around Wednesday, will
Speaker 1: and won't be there next Thursday. You know, people get
Speaker 1: this interested. So I'm just going to focus on being
Speaker 1: in the city, committed to it, not just for that,
Speaker 1: but just for life. Because when you're always all over
Speaker 1: the place, people are like, oh, she's probably up in
Speaker 1: the Berkshers. Oh she's probably you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I can find one in the city, one in
Speaker 2: the Berkshires.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Berksches. You know, I'm sort of.
Speaker 2: Like I've never been. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like the woman on the hill. I
Speaker 1: think people are afraid to come to my gate. And
Speaker 1: you know what if I had, if I started dating
Speaker 1: in the Berkshires, it would be the talk of my
Speaker 1: town and my parents would not have I I'm still
Speaker 1: twelve in my parents' eyes, so they still trenda sincla.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I was on the phone. Ryan's
Speaker 1: on right now, my my agent, and I was in
Speaker 1: the car with him, and he's so used to me.
Speaker 1: Is Derenda, you know, running around doing New York, and
Speaker 1: my mother called that. I put on a speakerphone and
Speaker 1: I think it changed his whole attitude with it, because
Speaker 1: they're like, now, God bless you. Now be careful out
Speaker 1: there in La your father and I love you. We
Speaker 1: were working. You know, someone thinks of me, someone that
Speaker 1: has this caretaker like that, because it's in their eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm still little.
Speaker 2: I love that, and you're the cariage taker. But you
Speaker 2: need we all need someone that takes care of us. Still, wait,
Speaker 2: would you date down? No, Down's not the right word.
Speaker 2: Age shut down, younger.
Speaker 1: Not so much. I don't want to date someone so
Speaker 1: much younger, like fifty, oh fifty, I do fifty, but
Speaker 1: not like forty. I went up.
Speaker 2: No, I went out forty five, forty eight McCalla day.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe that, Yeah, okay, you went out with.
Speaker 1: People or not. I would date a little older because
Speaker 1: I make care a little bit older. But you know
Speaker 1: what my mother always said about dating older man. When
Speaker 1: you marry an old man, you get an older man. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean my my soon to be ex husband is
Speaker 2: eight years older than me. No, It's fine when we
Speaker 2: first were together, but now I'm looking at him, he
Speaker 2: looks great, but I'm like, now he's older.
Speaker 1: Now, how young would you date?
Speaker 2: I get it, this is bizarre, but I guess this
Speaker 2: is a thing. Now I get hit on by like
Speaker 2: young guys. Oh that is now like twenty five to
Speaker 2: early thirties. And I'm like, when are they looking for
Speaker 2: a mommy? It like it's I don't know, and yeah,
Speaker 2: people are like, oh that's the thing. Yeah. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: don't you know things they don't know what they're doing
Speaker 2: at that age, they don't know what they want, like
Speaker 2: uh huh. So I would say forty and over.
Speaker 1: It's just I went out for a teeny dwy a
Speaker 1: little bit with someone in their thirties. I wasn't very
Speaker 1: vocal about it, but I'm talking like a couple of days,
Speaker 1: and it is a very big especially when you have
Speaker 1: a child that is starting to fall much. You know,
Speaker 1: there's too much life that you have. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think short term it's fun, it's probably long term
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be sustainable. You know, I'm too much of
Speaker 1: a grown up. Like I'm a dense grown.
Speaker 2: Up, right, but you're a fun grown up.
Speaker 1: I have fun, but you know I don't. I have
Speaker 1: a lot going on. I've seen a lot, I've done
Speaker 1: a lot, and I don't really suffer fools very well,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't want to teach,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to teach anymore. Like the teaching
Speaker 1: phase of my life is ended.
Speaker 2: Oh teaching?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, they don't really when you're that young,
Speaker 1: you're still good. But have a lot of patience for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Well, you just taught me a lot
Speaker 2: about dating right now. I wasn't even going to talk
Speaker 2: to you about that, but okay, can we talk traders now?
Speaker 1: Yes? Go ahead. How disappointing. Huh oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing. I hadn't watched it, but
Speaker 2: I started watching it to see you and then you
Speaker 2: were gone. So but then, sorry to say, I fell
Speaker 2: in love with the show. Now I'm like a faithful fan.
Speaker 1: Well it's a great show.
Speaker 2: I didn't reat show and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It's a great show regardless of me being on it
Speaker 1: or not. And it's just so sad. I feel so
Speaker 1: sad that I because I was very excited to you know, listen,
Speaker 1: I had planned for I had the close like you
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe, you know, to not be part of it,
Speaker 1: and just the comaradity of it. You know what it's
Speaker 1: like when you're filming with people and just being in Scotland,
Speaker 1: be in that situation. So I believe me, I cried
Speaker 1: about it for weeks. You can talk to Ryan. I
Speaker 1: was heartbroken because it is such a fun experience and
Speaker 1: when are you going to be able to do that again?
Speaker 2: You're not, So can you talk me through the process,
Speaker 2: because I kind of would love to be on it
Speaker 2: one day. Uh So you get a call, you get
Speaker 2: to offer you fly to Scotland. Do you know, you
Speaker 2: don't know anyone that's going to be there. Nothing was
Speaker 2: anyone on your flight that you're like.
Speaker 1: Everyone comes in at different times. Oh okay, and once
Speaker 1: you're there, you're It starts the minute you land, but
Speaker 1: you're you're in that world and you do that. For
Speaker 1: anyone that says you know or you're privy, just stuff,
Speaker 1: it's just not true. You're not privy to anything. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes the show so beautiful is
Speaker 1: that they're able to keep that the integrity of the show.
Speaker 1: Even when I got murdered and had to go home,
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to Like I had to really slither home,
Speaker 1: and I went right up to the Berkshires and went
Speaker 1: off grid because I wasn't allowed to post. I was
Speaker 1: at allowed to do anything because remember they had announced
Speaker 1: the cast, So for the remaining time, I had to
Speaker 1: stay completely under the radar, Like I didn't even want
Speaker 1: to go How long until the show ended filming?
Speaker 2: Like how long is that?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Like, not only were you murder and
Speaker 2: eliminated from the show, but then you can't even go
Speaker 2: on Instagram? What uh?
Speaker 1: This way? I didn't go to a restaurant. I didn't
Speaker 1: go to Instagram. I didn't go I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I literally went to the Berkshires and stayed like low
Speaker 1: key and if I because you got to, which I
Speaker 1: think probably makes it harder for people because they announced
Speaker 1: the cast that David started filming. So honestly, if they
Speaker 1: see me in New York City at La Galou having
Speaker 1: dinner on a Wednesday night, it's not these fans are
Speaker 1: They're like they figure things out in two seconds.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hello Reddit, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Hello, read it exactly.
Speaker 2: So my friend Pedro Parks was on it and she
Speaker 2: told me like she went into it with a mood
Speaker 2: board and all the fashion. She's like, I had no
Speaker 2: idea what I'd have to do that. I'd be like.
Speaker 2: She's like, they did ask me like can you swim?
Speaker 2: And I was like, why do I need to swim?
Speaker 2: She's like so yeah, So like how many outfits did
Speaker 2: you bring?
Speaker 1: I brought about? Well, I brought more than needed, but
Speaker 1: I brought about I mean, I broke out. I lived
Speaker 1: in London ten years. So when I lived in London,
Speaker 1: I had the best stuff, like the best. I had
Speaker 1: the original Alexander McQueen stuff, a ton of Vivian Weissman.
Speaker 1: I brought all my old alayah. I bought some of
Speaker 1: the stuff from the Hunting company that you know they
Speaker 1: had like those great jackets parties, you know, the outdoor
Speaker 1: kind of clothing company I had.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me drooling over the microphone?
Speaker 1: I mean, all my beautiful, beautiful kill I had. I
Speaker 1: had a Libertine jacket that I never wore that was
Speaker 1: to the floor long jacket that all like a beautiful
Speaker 1: trench that yeah, I mean you pack to dress and
Speaker 1: I literally got to wear that one. Two outfits my
Speaker 1: outfits alone were I mean, I have all the pictures.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to put up an instagram of
Speaker 1: all the euphans you.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, people want to see that
Speaker 2: you have to all the outfits that were planned.
Speaker 1: And I know, and then I read. I studied, I've
Speaker 1: told as I said on the Tonight Show the other night,
Speaker 1: I read the Art of War. I studied. I did
Speaker 1: Hannah help me write out things and strategies and situations
Speaker 1: and sayings I had. I went through a whole role
Speaker 1: of type dress, taping everything to my wall in my
Speaker 1: bedroom and literally like four days later, a month taping it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait what is that when they do
Speaker 2: the things like like a stakeout it, yes, with the
Speaker 2: pins pins, Oh my god, what is it?
Speaker 1: Really? I really felt that that. I think to like
Speaker 1: spend time with the other players, because you know, when
Speaker 1: you're you're even when you're filming. You can film, but
Speaker 1: you're not you're not hanging out afterwards. As soon as
Speaker 1: you're done filming, you go back to your rooms.
Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, no, there's no hanging out. I mean not that
Speaker 1: I knew of because I wasn't there, but they're pretty
Speaker 1: strict about that too.
Speaker 2: Really, so no, like socializing in from of the like
Speaker 2: amazing fireplace in the library, and like having a content.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know because I left so early,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just think they built of comaradity
Speaker 1: that you you know how it is, even when you
Speaker 1: film something or you do anything, you walk away with
Speaker 1: it with the comaradities that no one else understands. And
Speaker 1: I feel like I missed out on that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the gaming, that's time I was dying to sit around
Speaker 1: the round table. I think I would have been very
Speaker 1: good around the round table.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, were you hoping to be a trader.
Speaker 1: Oh. I was open to whatever they were going to do,
Speaker 1: but I thought they would have made me a trader.
Speaker 1: I was surprised when I wasn't made a trader, but
Speaker 1: I I was open to either. I think that might
Speaker 1: have lasted a little longer if I was a trader.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, it's such a different thing
Speaker 1: than filming for Housewives or just filming in general. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a whole different game because it's it's a
Speaker 1: game of chance. It's like there's no real rule book,
Speaker 1: which you think, you know, if someone decides they want
Speaker 1: you gone, you're gone.
Speaker 2: That doesn't feel fair because when I started watching it,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's like a game of chess,
Speaker 2: like in life. It is very good at life chess.
Speaker 2: I was like hmm, But then yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: But everybody should do it once. You should do you
Speaker 1: should do it. It's it's a really beautiful experience. Like
Speaker 1: I truly felt bad when I went home. I was demastating,
Speaker 1: ging me feel bad again.
Speaker 2: No, oh my god, do you don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about anymore. I have a few more questions though, oka
Speaker 2: do you feel like they were like, oh, the real housewise, okay, getting.
Speaker 1: The mass and I don't I think, I mean, it
Speaker 1: was so early on, no one even at that point,
Speaker 1: no one really we didn't even really have a chance
Speaker 1: to get to uh, you know, know each other. So
Speaker 1: obviously there was something. You can't blame them, because the
Speaker 1: whole point is that you try to get rid of
Speaker 1: the people that you think are going to be a
Speaker 1: threat or strong And let's face that, I'm a strong character, right,
Speaker 1: so it's this it's a terrible compliment in some ways.
Speaker 2: Like do you think you would have gone home that
Speaker 2: night if you hadn't gotten fired up? Was it in
Speaker 2: the kitchen?
Speaker 1: Maybe? I think that I just I don't I think
Speaker 1: that who knows, maybe, But I think I'm just a
Speaker 1: strong character. I think that you have to be much more,
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you're under the radar. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing about the housewives, going back to the question,
Speaker 1: they really are characters.
Speaker 2: Their standouts mm hm.
Speaker 1: And they are buddy but you know they are definitely
Speaker 1: they hang out together and they're definitely more. There's more
Speaker 1: commodity with them and stuff. So you look at you know,
Speaker 1: it was me and then who was second?
Speaker 2: Thebai I didn't feel like she was a threat. Now
Speaker 2: she's pretty to look at, but I didn't and then drop.
Speaker 1: And so left right now and the Housewives is just
Speaker 1: Dolores mm hmm. But she trust she's very good. Doris
Speaker 1: is like a good theilers is very good at keeping
Speaker 1: her her cards. Trust she'll be I think she'll be good.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, you have theories. We don't know.
Speaker 1: I have theories, but no one's called. No. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: They keep the intake and it's fine. And I don't
Speaker 1: ask because you know, are.
Speaker 2: A scandabal still there.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I haven't caught up cripp out.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they take him out?
Speaker 1: Well, because it's not really.
Speaker 2: He's not really a threat, right, No, no, no, after
Speaker 2: everything that happened, that's the thing, like.
Speaker 1: Who's the threat? Who is? It doesn't But if you're yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, that's that's it. But I have to say,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get murdered, be the first one to
Speaker 1: get murdered, because you get a lot of attention, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, be the first one.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like when I did Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 2: I was like, what eliminated first? And then everyone's like,
Speaker 2: but wait, you know there still up to me, and
Speaker 2: did you love it? I loved it? Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I never wanted to do it because I was so
Speaker 2: scared of performing in front of live audience sorry my
Speaker 2: dog's barking live audience on TV. I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, and dancing like I feel like I'm I
Speaker 2: can I can only to move. I'm not great with choreography,
Speaker 2: but I can style like nobody's business. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: got in there and I gave it my all. When
Speaker 2: I commit, I commit, and I learned so much about
Speaker 2: myself and I was having such a great time and
Speaker 2: then just like that, gone and everyone still says you
Speaker 2: were robbed.
Speaker 1: Yeah you were just quick. But you know what a great.
Speaker 2: Randa Medley you were robbed.
Speaker 1: Again, Like I would love to it would be great
Speaker 1: just to do it, because what a great experience, and
Speaker 1: all did.
Speaker 2: You get a great experience I did? I was like,
Speaker 2: and I don't work out. I haven't worked out since
Speaker 2: like the nineties. And I was like, wow, I got
Speaker 2: some muscle memory because my muscles came back just like that.
Speaker 2: And then I was gone and it went away just
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: It's like Erica Jaye right now, her body's like this
Speaker 1: because she's been doing all the dancing. Dancing is the
Speaker 1: best thing.
Speaker 2: And it gives you joy. I found there's something about it.
Speaker 1: That just I don't want to do it just for
Speaker 1: doing those workouts and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You should do it. You should do it.
Speaker 1: I would love to do it. I used to teach aerobic,
Speaker 1: so I got the whole beat thing down. But that's
Speaker 1: what I really want to try to push to do
Speaker 1: next is Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you got the Olivia Newton John thing down.
Speaker 1: I was like a little step and everything else.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'd love to see you in leg warmers.
Speaker 1: I oh I have them.
Speaker 2: But you know what I got to tell you, no
Speaker 2: one's talking about anybody else on that show except for you.
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry your time was cut short. But people
Speaker 2: are still talking about still devastated by it. So that's
Speaker 2: the good news, right, good news. I know you wanted
Speaker 2: to play the game. You were there to play.
Speaker 1: I really was, and I'd be good at it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have a Trader's All Stars.
Speaker 1: They should, Yeah, they should have a Traders All Star
Speaker 1: and bringing back the best. I mean, Phedro was just
Speaker 1: incredible on the show. Should I said to someone the
Speaker 1: other day, Phaedri should never not be on TV. She's
Speaker 1: just TV gold.
Speaker 2: She really is. She's life gold. Like I loved wing
Speaker 2: on Dancing with the Stars. We would gosh on the
Speaker 2: downtime and even coming back for the final we would
Speaker 2: sit there and nobody gossips like Vaedor and it's been
Speaker 2: in a good way.
Speaker 1: She did the Ultimate Girls Troop two of Bluestone Manor
Speaker 1: at my house, so she was up there for that.
Speaker 1: What this is a couple of years ago and she
Speaker 1: was just amazing. It was just amazing. Did you she
Speaker 1: did stay in the shark room?
Speaker 2: She did?
Speaker 1: Yes, she loved it.
Speaker 2: Why does no one want to want to stay in
Speaker 2: the shark room?
Speaker 1: I think she loved it.
Speaker 2: I would love it. Yes, Oh my gosh, tony rooms.
Speaker 2: Well there is bedrooms.
Speaker 1: Oh bedrooms. There's one, two, three.
Speaker 2: I have a motive here. I'm asking for a reason.
Speaker 1: Do three, four, five, six like seventh?
Speaker 2: Oh great, so all my kids and I could come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go. It's an eighteen acres so they can
Speaker 1: wander away and never be in trouble. It's beautiful. I
Speaker 1: love it. I don't go this time of year as
Speaker 1: much because you know, and I have my I have
Speaker 1: my brother's staying there right now. So just because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of need someone to stay in
Speaker 1: the house and those type of things. But it's cold.
Speaker 1: I'll start going against her the next month. I like
Speaker 1: being in New York January February because it's kind of easy.
Speaker 1: It's easy to look what it's cold.
Speaker 2: I just got home from New York last night.
Speaker 1: Really I did, oh wow, you then you you don't
Speaker 1: know cool? Oh no, it's been very it's been a
Speaker 1: very cold and daunting. It's been a daunting winter.
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't know how you packed for Scotland. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you had steamer trunks because I just
Speaker 2: picture that with you or something. But I mean just
Speaker 2: me going for like five days. The coats I brought,
Speaker 2: what's the thing? I knew, but I had to keep
Speaker 2: doing a wardrobe change like midday just to feel like
Speaker 2: I used them, and then packing them. You can't. It's
Speaker 2: you can't roll them. You know. Everyone's like the packing rule.
Speaker 2: That's what we do in LA. It's like New York, like.
Speaker 1: No, No, I think I had like four or five
Speaker 1: suitcases for Scotland, big ones, like big because you have
Speaker 1: to because you you really have to layer there because
Speaker 1: June is a funny month. So my first husband was
Speaker 1: scot is Scottish, so I went to Scotland a lot
Speaker 1: when I was when we lived in London. We used
Speaker 1: to go like every weekend. And the thing about June
Speaker 1: is it can be super warm in the morning and
Speaker 1: forty five in the afternoon. Mm hm.
Speaker 2: My soon to be exis Scottish as well. And I'd
Speaker 2: been there. Yeah, I had blood sausage.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I say, yeah there. Dare I say I
Speaker 1: did have it once to.
Speaker 2: Anghi Hagis and I had haggis had at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to try it once if you go
Speaker 1: to Scotland, but once only.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can say that stuff the right of passage
Speaker 2: if you're there, Wait blue so bluestone manner. You've put it,
Speaker 2: You've had girl trips there everyone on TV. But would
Speaker 2: you ever do it as like an Airbnb experience exclusive experience?
Speaker 1: Well I did. I did a collab with Airbnb for
Speaker 1: two one night's stays. If they put it on for
Speaker 1: a uh you know, it was like a collaborations with
Speaker 1: AIRBB at one hundred and seventy seven thousand people applied
Speaker 1: to it. They crashed their site because you know, blue
Speaker 1: Stone Matters become like the Disney of Bravo. So when
Speaker 1: I when I'm home up there on.
Speaker 2: The way seek Disney and Bravo.
Speaker 1: Yep. Literally, people are like, come to my gate and
Speaker 1: just sit there and look up at that. Luckily, it's
Speaker 1: kind of there's a gate you have to go up
Speaker 1: and up and up, so it's a little bit protected
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, and you know, we're working on
Speaker 1: getting a show up and going about it. Hopefully that's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the work soon.
Speaker 2: Oh that would be great. Pump's gonna be so jealous.
Speaker 1: I think, like Savander Pump does pretty well for ourselves. Well.
Speaker 1: Worried about a little older Riddo Medley.
Speaker 2: Yeah boy, Okay, I'm gonna go back to the Real
Speaker 2: Housewives for one more second.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, and maybe this is something I don't know.
Speaker 2: Have you been on the show, the new one?
Speaker 1: Yes, no, they don't.
Speaker 2: They asked you to come in for a cameo.
Speaker 1: Noh, I get that really yeah.
Speaker 2: What they really want to clean slate come on, I
Speaker 2: think I think.
Speaker 1: It will vokes. It's just a little voke, too much comparison.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think they need to let these
Speaker 1: girls just really stand on their own without you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because imagine if they said, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: next week episode Luendel Steps is going to be on.
Speaker 1: That's going to be the focus for the audience. They
Speaker 1: need to these girls need to.
Speaker 2: Yeah that yes, yes, do you think or has there
Speaker 2: ever been talking.
Speaker 1: For the third person in the last two days that's
Speaker 1: asked me this question?
Speaker 2: It really yes, it seems such a question.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming is there ever a world? Do they combine
Speaker 1: the two at some level? Was that it? No?
Speaker 2: No, I'm thinking a reboot of the OG.
Speaker 1: So they try a new.
Speaker 2: Show, but with you guys like coming back, like you know,
Speaker 2: I limited series at least, I don't know, give me
Speaker 2: a movie something.
Speaker 1: I think what they should have kept doing and I
Speaker 1: miss and I love to was the girls trips like
Speaker 1: the one we did Saint bart Once a year they
Speaker 1: get all the old girls back together. So me, that
Speaker 1: was great because it allowed everybody because you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are all over the place. Now, it
Speaker 1: allowed the It would have allowed the audience to see
Speaker 1: us all together once a year, get their dose of
Speaker 1: that and keep it moving. Right.
Speaker 2: Wait, maybe I met you in Saint Bart's. I was
Speaker 2: on Sonya's yacht. That's where I met Sonya.
Speaker 1: No, that wasn't okay, No, No, I think we think
Speaker 1: we know each other because we have so many connective tissues.
Speaker 1: And it says if we because if you, if you
Speaker 1: lived in New York, we know each other. If I
Speaker 1: lived in London, we know each other. So it's one
Speaker 1: of those assuming knowing things.
Speaker 2: Right, if you lived in London, we wouldn't know each other.
Speaker 2: We would in London. Did you mean la la la la?
Speaker 2: We don't. Yeah, well whatever, we know each other. Now. Wait,
Speaker 2: so have you watched I know it's in the second
Speaker 2: season the new show.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I have a radio show every week of
Speaker 1: Radio Andy at that group. Yeah, Reality Check. So I
Speaker 1: do watch it. You have to, Yeah, I have to
Speaker 1: watch it. I've watched all the shows, just a different show.
Speaker 2: And that's okay. It shouldn't have the same title, but
Speaker 2: that's fine, just my opinion.
Speaker 1: And I think that they you know, they've got there.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so hard for me to know.
Speaker 1: I don't have this thing that it was them or us.
Speaker 1: I think things. They make decisions, you know better than anyone.
Speaker 1: You work at TV a long time. They make decisions.
Speaker 1: That's the decision, and they go forward with it, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's a good decision sometimes is that What will
Speaker 1: be interesting now is to see what next year is
Speaker 1: going to look like. Okay, wait, did you watch the finale?
Speaker 2: I don't watch it anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't watch it? Yeah, it's fit because you know,
Speaker 1: the response hasn't obviously, I think probably has been as
Speaker 1: positive as they would like it to be. So let's
Speaker 1: see what they what's going to happen next season.
Speaker 2: They didn't do this ship to Beverly Hills. Why New York?
Speaker 2: I know, imagine a whole new group of girls in
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. I can't no, because that's called selling sunset.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's that was a really big, big, big, very upset
Speaker 1: about it. I think people still are sort of like
Speaker 1: stunned by it. I think that's part of the reason
Speaker 1: that there's such a difficulty excepting because I think people
Speaker 1: are still stunned that it happened. Because You're right, it's
Speaker 1: never happened again, and I don't think they would do
Speaker 1: it again. I think it was you know, I think
Speaker 1: that was like a one.
Speaker 2: And done of all the casts of all the cities.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll do it. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1: Let's see there there's the ongoing question right now, like
Speaker 1: will they do that to New Jersey? Right? Are they
Speaker 1: going to do the same thing? And I hope not
Speaker 1: because learning curve for the audience is exhausting. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot for an audience to fall in
Speaker 1: love with you. That learning curve is all right, it's
Speaker 1: not an instant no, it's not an instant no.
Speaker 2: And you know what, you can keep plugging in newcast
Speaker 2: to different shows. And I'm a lot better at all
Speaker 2: because I this happened with one else, so I keep
Speaker 2: bringing it up. But it's like, you know, you can't
Speaker 2: recreate magic. You can put different people in, but it's
Speaker 2: never the same. So I'm not a Real Housewives franchise fan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the only two I have watched since the beginning. It's
Speaker 2: the only two. Well, I guess I only have one
Speaker 2: to watch now is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New York. I'm friends with Teresa, so
Speaker 2: I have watched New Jersey sporadically, but no, nope, I
Speaker 2: was all or nothing and like New York was my
Speaker 2: And maybe it's because I'm from LA. Like I'm from La,
Speaker 2: so I responded to Beverly Hills, but I really fell
Speaker 2: in love with the women. And then New York is like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I never lived in New York, but
Speaker 2: it's kind of the other you know, La. Well, but
Speaker 2: your cast was just magical and.
Speaker 1: The cast was and what was great is it really
Speaker 1: did allow people to see a little piece of New
Speaker 1: York because if you don't live in New York, you
Speaker 1: don't know how it works. And we were real. I
Speaker 1: mean we're real New Yorkers, Like we live in the city, live,
Speaker 1: play work, raise our children here, like this is our playground.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it takes a very sort
Speaker 1: of as I just said to someone who want to
Speaker 1: he's a very unique person to live in this kind
Speaker 1: of environment and love it like I love New York City.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Like they didn't do this to Sex and the City.
Speaker 2: Imagine I correct direction because the fans wouldn't accept it?
Speaker 2: Who can calm down here? So on the New Cast,
Speaker 2: God saying who do you think? Like, who would you
Speaker 2: say is the Direnda? I can't even ask you that
Speaker 2: because you can't there's your one of the kind.
Speaker 1: It's that. And I still think there's act like.
Speaker 2: You're literally one to be kind, You're Dinda Medley, and there's.
Speaker 1: Like I just sure, I mean who would be the
Speaker 1: new So? I mean I think they're all just who
Speaker 1: would be the new Luis were the new?
Speaker 2: In which incarnation of her?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: There's just no who falls in the bushes on that show?
Speaker 1: That would be the o G girls. They were individually
Speaker 1: characters like they really were. It's just it's just like
Speaker 1: they are on Sea. I always say, if you see
Speaker 1: me be a lowandering Ramona out in the wild, we're
Speaker 1: the same people. So but they collectively they were just fantastic, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god? That's why they say.
Speaker 2: Who do you think is the messiest? On the New Cast?
Speaker 1: The one that's in so much trouble? Brand? I think
Speaker 1: Brand is really she's She's the one that really I
Speaker 1: think has gotten is stirs up a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: but she'd miss it. Hm. The one that I think
Speaker 1: is really that I feel like is a very good
Speaker 1: how like I kind of relate to the most as
Speaker 1: far as like she seems to me like on point
Speaker 1: of knowing what she's doing and kind of got it
Speaker 1: got it down. Is Eric?
Speaker 2: Okay, I know all these names, so I haven't seen
Speaker 2: the show. You know what, I'm gonna go against my
Speaker 2: word and I'm gonna watch an episode I get. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna see how I feel. Fine, I'll go into it
Speaker 2: open minded.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, listen, I don't speaks. I'm messy everywhere, so
Speaker 1: you might as well try it. Give it a go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right that desserts staying on the kitchen table.
Speaker 2: Okay, and before we go, uh, you make it nice.
Speaker 2: I make it messy. Help me find the error of
Speaker 2: my ways.
Speaker 1: And which way i'm mess category.
Speaker 2: Oh, you've helped me in many categories today figure out
Speaker 2: so much they didn't even plan on. But I'm just
Speaker 2: you make it nice. I can make it nice too,
Speaker 2: But I am notoriously kind of messy's wrong, disorganized.
Speaker 1: I think of you as a messy person. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't know like messy. See, I have a connotation
Speaker 2: of messy being like dirty or like I'm not like that.
Speaker 2: I think of you that you but not caught mess. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think that you are outspoken and curious, which I
Speaker 1: think those are good things.
Speaker 2: True. I'm talking more about my living quarters. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like it. So, for instance, we got evacuated. We were
Speaker 2: gone for a week. We came home and I thought
Speaker 2: our house had been burglarized. I thought I'd been looted,
Speaker 2: and then I realized, oh my god, this is just
Speaker 2: how we live. And we were in airbnb for a
Speaker 2: week and it was pristine. I kept to pristine. So
Speaker 2: I came back home and with all the devastation and
Speaker 2: everyone losing so much, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I more than ever now, I just want all this
Speaker 2: stuff gone. That takes me in power.
Speaker 1: Everything myself. And you have seven children, that's hard. And
Speaker 1: you have seven children and you have a career five
Speaker 1: five five sorry five children, and then you have a
Speaker 1: career and.
Speaker 2: That's you have seven bedrooms.
Speaker 1: But come on, now, give yourself a break. You have
Speaker 1: five children, you've just been evacuated. You're doing it. I
Speaker 1: mean you're now did you get divorced, You're getting divorced.
Speaker 2: I'm getting divorced.
Speaker 1: Is he's still actively involved with all the kids and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, so.
Speaker 2: That's we compared quite well.
Speaker 1: So that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But still it's a lot of fun kids. I even
Speaker 1: known Hannahcoff's back home when she's one.
Speaker 2: They're a little bits, they are, But no one seems
Speaker 2: to cut that break. People come from my house there's like,
Speaker 2: you gotta get your shit together, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't have help. Well, don't I do it all myself.
Speaker 2: I'm a chef, I'm an uber driver.
Speaker 1: So what came to my house and say you need
Speaker 1: to get your ship together? I said, you need to
Speaker 1: leave through the front door, don't use the back door,
Speaker 1: so I can make sure you leave, so.
Speaker 2: I see, you know I'm too nice help me? Yeah, no, no, okay,
Speaker 2: Oh you're doing that's the first step. You got five
Speaker 2: beautiful kids, and you're doing your up every day. They're safe,
Speaker 2: healthy and alive. I would not get myself all worked
Speaker 2: up about that. I could clean up the house a
Speaker 2: little bit, though. Really I want to see this house,
Speaker 2: but I, oh my god, I could never have you
Speaker 2: in my house unless we're filming it. And that sounds
Speaker 2: like a great episode of something. Okay, oh it's not. Well,
Speaker 2: there's no like piles with like dead animals buried at
Speaker 2: the bottom that I know of. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we need to get the cameras in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just going to show you real quick because
Speaker 2: we are friends. Now. This is wow. I'm really letting
Speaker 2: you in. Like here you see piles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not. It's just more like yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's like just clean up stuff.
Speaker 2: It just needs to be cleaned up. I just don't
Speaker 2: have the time, It's correct. Okay, So I had a good,
Speaker 2: solid week where I did nothing.
Speaker 1: You got to get your troll down the kitchen and
Speaker 1: help you. That's you've got map Hower there.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, if you want to speak to them, they