Speaker 1: Welcome to decisions decisions.
Speaker 2: I don't think you should say decisions decisions. It sounded
Speaker 2: like you was talking to Kursky. You definitely say to welcome.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the new podcast.
Speaker 2: You want to say together the decisions and decisions, decisions decisions?
Speaker 1: Do you just try to say without a most decisions.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I wasn't fro the moon. I mean we
Speaker 3: still came home. But also I'm celibate right now, so
Speaker 3: I'm not going to moan. But decisions, decisions were made,
Speaker 3: people to not go anywhere, and we're back on on
Speaker 3: Monday or whenever.
Speaker 1: You're listening to this guy damn episode. So we want
Speaker 1: to give y'all, y'all new schedule. Yeah, let's let's start
Speaker 1: it right out the gate, y'all.
Speaker 2: So I'm weezy, She's Mandy, and we're decisions decisions on
Speaker 2: Mondays on Tuesdays.
Speaker 1: If you want to hear us be little or just weezy,
Speaker 1: because I'm celibate.
Speaker 2: When Mandy's ready to fucking suck a dick again, she'll
Speaker 2: be She'll be available on Tuesdays.
Speaker 3: Not available on Tuesdays, horrible decisions will be available.
Speaker 1: I'm sell it Monday. What's my price. What you selling
Speaker 1: me for Mondays? Here's your schedule.
Speaker 2: Monday's Decisions Decisions is available on the Black Effect Network
Speaker 2: and wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. That's right,
Speaker 2: it's an iHeart radio show. Will be available Mondays. On Tuesdays,
Speaker 2: Horrible Decisions will only be available on patreon dot com
Speaker 2: Backslash Horrible Decisions, and on Wednesday, another brand news show.
Speaker 1: You've Got Decisions.
Speaker 2: It is going to be our listener letter, our mail
Speaker 2: segment and every single Wednesday. We know, back in the
Speaker 2: day when we were doing Horrible Decisions, you easy couldn't.
Speaker 1: Think for the outline and we never got to y'all this.
Speaker 1: You were trying to fight me what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, damn, can we get through the allline
Speaker 3: so I could talk to the audience.
Speaker 2: But now we got it. Just a segment, just be
Speaker 2: all on Wednesdays, that's right. So you can send in
Speaker 2: your question, SUS sentiment and a DM sentiment an email.
Speaker 2: Will put that in the description of this episode. But
Speaker 2: every single Wednesday, we'll be digging into your questions. And
Speaker 2: we felt like y'all needed some dedicated times.
Speaker 1: We would have three.
Speaker 2: Minutes laugh and We're like, girl, I don't know fucking
Speaker 2: new niggas anyway.
Speaker 3: Literally, there was no thought into the whole mail, and
Speaker 3: so I'm really glad you guys will get about twenty
Speaker 3: to twenty five minutes of us really pulling out.
Speaker 1: All the juice, all the tea.
Speaker 2: But there was thought all the decisions decisions.
Speaker 1: Mandy and I have been talking about this since about
Speaker 1: right around July, yeah, sometime, so this ain't new.
Speaker 3: We by the way, someone did bring up they was like, oh,
Speaker 3: y'all been playing this because we ain't got braces on
Speaker 3: the cover art.
Speaker 1: That's funny. We did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been writing our book and if you guys
Speaker 2: got to check out the Essence article that came out
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 1: While we were writing the book, it was kind of like, yo.
Speaker 3: We're just trying to do I guess let's let's let's
Speaker 3: let's express that to them because I know we talked
Speaker 3: about horrible decisions going behind the paywall, but I do
Speaker 3: want to get into our reasons eight years later for
Speaker 3: doing this rebrand and name change. And then while you
Speaker 3: answer yours, there was a question put a poot onto
Speaker 3: our Patreon that I would like both of us to
Speaker 3: answer because it was really interesting. Okay, but yeah, if
Speaker 3: you want to explain a little bit about writing this
Speaker 3: book and what led us to kind of changing wanting
Speaker 3: to rebrand, well, if.
Speaker 2: You're on Patreon, you got to watch our full little
Speaker 2: commercial video we did in La all together and it
Speaker 2: really was simple and silly, but kind of the reasoning.
Speaker 2: So over the last eight years, Horrible Decisions is a
Speaker 2: show exploring kink's de stigmatizing, talking about sex and launchiness
Speaker 2: and teaching people so much about what they didn't know
Speaker 2: about their personal sexuality and others.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I think over this time of almost a decade of it,
Speaker 2: we've grown in so many ways that we realized. Even
Speaker 2: the last year, we've been talking so much more about
Speaker 2: navigating non traditional relationships. And that's where we figured out
Speaker 2: through even writing the book. Damn, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: serious shit in this book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in.
Speaker 2: Between all the fun threesomes and the orgies and the
Speaker 2: electrocution and all that other sit there is a lot
Speaker 2: of serious shit. So how is Horrible Decisions in alignment
Speaker 2: now with this book that we just wrote. And so
Speaker 2: that is when the discussion of a rebrand started to begin.
Speaker 2: Not to mention y'all have known if you're an og
Speaker 2: listener of horrible decisions, that advertisements just ain't that easy
Speaker 2: when you've got horror in the title.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all, by the way, shut out, shout out to
Speaker 3: the really shout out to the fans, because they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: y'all really gonna get some money now.
Speaker 1: I love that y'all root for us to make more money.
Speaker 3: That felt good, but it has it's been a difficult
Speaker 3: battle with even though we know what this brand and
Speaker 3: what horrible decisions has meant to so many of you
Speaker 3: and your lives and your relationships and your confidence. On
Speaker 3: the back end, it's been us fighting with advertisers and
Speaker 3: brands to even let them know, No, this is an
Speaker 3: important show. This isn't a bullshit show. There's meaning behind it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things behind this, and we needed
Speaker 3: to just have a little bit of feet and a
Speaker 3: yellow cover art to feel less. I mean, not only
Speaker 3: that for me personally, I do think that. I mean
Speaker 3: and I've really really really enjoyed you guys, like growing
Speaker 3: on this journey with me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that we're.
Speaker 3: I've navigated sex very much in the open with you guys,
Speaker 3: but I'm in a place now at thirty four, leaving
Speaker 3: my Jesus here, getting out of my first relationship and
Speaker 3: finally healing from that to where I'm like, damn, what
Speaker 3: does the beginning of dating.
Speaker 1: And shit look like? How do I express that?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm open to a non traditional style of
Speaker 3: being with someone.
Speaker 1: I do want to shout out to ash Ashland.
Speaker 3: She said something and it really really touched me because
Speaker 3: I was like, ooh, bit you right, And I want
Speaker 3: to share this on the pod and this is a
Speaker 3: reminder to all of you listening, and it's a reminder
Speaker 3: to myself. I'm gonna write this on a goddamn sticky note.
Speaker 3: She said, here's a reminder that we cannot shame ourselves
Speaker 3: into change. We can only love ourselves into growth. And
Speaker 3: I think that I loved her. This is Ashlynd who
Speaker 3: wrote me this, and I think just from some of
Speaker 3: the Patreon content I have been battling with with of
Speaker 3: course working through the shame of some of the survival
Speaker 3: sex and decisions I made around sex and working through that,
Speaker 3: and I just love that she shared this. And again,
Speaker 3: that's why I love our goddamn horror hid However, we
Speaker 3: see this is an interesting one, and I do want
Speaker 3: to say answer this all right. I love y'all and
Speaker 3: we'll watch regardless. But don't y'all think the name change
Speaker 3: is kind of walking back the purpose of the pod.
Speaker 3: It felt like the pod was about reclaiming the word
Speaker 3: horror and embracing our sexuality, regardless of the misogynistic society
Speaker 3: we live in. It feels like all the people who
Speaker 3: have slept shamed the pod and women in general are
Speaker 3: now winning. Y'all literally took the word horror out of it.
Speaker 3: But please tell me I'm wrong. Maybe y'all understand. When
Speaker 3: the episode drops and I literally told her this is
Speaker 3: from MERK, and I did tell her I would respond
Speaker 3: to this and to listen to Monday's episode. So I
Speaker 3: want us to talk about I actually.
Speaker 1: Wish I had something that was like more eloquent to say,
Speaker 1: but like, oh, y'all know, nothing I say is ell.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't want to
Speaker 2: if I'm walking anything I'm planning on still sorry, I
Speaker 2: just had a threesome in the episode right before we
Speaker 2: went behind a bay wall. I mean, my life isn't
Speaker 2: changing at the end of the day. We're trying to
Speaker 2: break down barriers and be liberating into all this shit.
Speaker 2: And like I said in that article, got to do
Speaker 2: seventeen things to make a million dollars when a bitch
Speaker 2: is making five times that.
Speaker 1: With have to listen.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we are in a place where we have grown
Speaker 2: such a community that has literally fed us out of
Speaker 2: corporate So I'm looking to work not as hard niggers,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like we do a lot to be
Speaker 2: able to survive in this space. Merchandising, outreach, Patreon, crowdfunding
Speaker 2: on top of having effect and now you even see
Speaker 2: it double the episodes, bro. Yeah, Like, let's keep it
Speaker 2: a buck here, live touring, doing all of this shit.
Speaker 1: When I meet counterparts in a different world that aren't
Speaker 1: working as hard. So I know for a fact that
Speaker 1: what we're doing is amazing. It's not gonna stop. You
Speaker 1: got it every Tuesday. But like if an advertiser won't
Speaker 1: pay us fifty grand because we have whor in there,
Speaker 1: take it off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to me, that's that's another thing. I
Speaker 3: know that eight years ago we were like reclaiming the
Speaker 3: word hohrror, like black people did the N word, and
Speaker 3: I thought that we could make it something more liberating. However,
Speaker 3: patriarchy still has us in a choke hold, and unfortunately
Speaker 3: the negative stigma associated to that word.
Speaker 1: We we lye and I didn't have the power to.
Speaker 3: Change like literally what that word means in a grand
Speaker 3: scale in context, and so for that I was just like,
Speaker 3: that word can still be liberating within the whore hive,
Speaker 3: which we still use that it's still our community, but
Speaker 3: in terms of really elevating this brand and allowing these
Speaker 3: conversations to be broader and really go outside of the
Speaker 3: whore hype, which is what we want. We don't want
Speaker 3: to be judged or shamed with the decisions we make
Speaker 3: in the bedroom or with our.
Speaker 1: Relations algorithm algorithmically, yeah, just se you guys, we can't
Speaker 1: come up searching, like we can't make money on YouTube, but.
Speaker 3: You already we had our plaque on YouTube hit one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand subscribers and literally AI and whatever fucking thing
Speaker 3: they have our our YouTube plaque, says w D Pod
Speaker 3: with Mandy and Weezy, Because we couldn't even put horrible
Speaker 3: decisions on our own plaque.
Speaker 2: And it's like frustrating because it's such a good Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I mean, you know, we love puns and like
Speaker 2: the show, and honestly, thank god, we're not getting rid
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, but to grow, you know, we literally
Speaker 2: we've hired a team to figure out how we can
Speaker 2: do this. Like, it's just difficult, bro, It's difficult. It's
Speaker 2: frustrating to know that people that have less views make
Speaker 2: This is my lucky number right here, Mandy whatever, I'm
Speaker 2: this number and I'm talking about something. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's gonna come to fruition. I'm not joking, So I
Speaker 2: feel like we're about to blow.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I you do blow, you're probably gonna blow
Speaker 1: to night. Oh like, what do you mean you're about
Speaker 1: you liked? Sure you blue last night?
Speaker 2: We can't get We pay for production of this show
Speaker 2: for video, just so you guys can enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It is, oh yeah, because we all make no money
Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course Joann be looking at dim numbers.
Speaker 3: It's our audio numbers. I do just want to say
Speaker 3: two for Thank God for the audio numbers. I mean,
Speaker 3: but that's the thing that just goes to show too
Speaker 3: how many people are loud and wrong, And clearly y'all
Speaker 3: were loud and wrong about us ending the show this again.
Speaker 3: Weezy mentioned we talked about this in the fucking summertime.
Speaker 3: This has been in the making. Shout out to my
Speaker 3: marketing degree and us really planning.
Speaker 1: This out strategically.
Speaker 3: And you know, I just also wanted to share with
Speaker 3: you guys a few names, that's all.
Speaker 1: Just a few names.
Speaker 3: Are those of you who felt a way about our
Speaker 3: announcement and our departure and are coming back and ending
Speaker 3: the chapter and reopening another chapter. I'm just gonna give
Speaker 3: you guys some names. Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Brett Barre,
Speaker 3: Serena Williams, Share Jay Z, Garth Brooks, Eminem y'all love.
Speaker 2: These people which we can't sing or throw football out.
Speaker 1: We'd be on tourlight these niggas.
Speaker 3: It's some of the same venues maybe, Okay, now go back, no, no,
Speaker 3: not these venues. Let me see did Rick Ross and
Speaker 3: some of these other niggas act like they was sorry?
Speaker 1: Go back to what we do be in the same
Speaker 1: venues as Rick Ross? We do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Any you know what Donald Trump? You bitches, I'm good
Speaker 1: at all. I know I'm adding that name. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you all of these individuals announced their retirement and
Speaker 1: a close of a chapter, and when them mother suckers
Speaker 1: came back, y'all voted the one nigga back in the presidency.
Speaker 1: He said he was done with politics. Y'all haven't got
Speaker 1: that nigga backing off. I wonder if people thought, hold
Speaker 1: on four four.
Speaker 3: Four, y'all niggas like that album. He came back after
Speaker 3: he said he was done and dropped the album. Serena Williams,
Speaker 3: y'all still was going to the US Open when that
Speaker 3: bit shine deer. Don't nobody really go to the US
Speaker 3: But who we rooting for? Serena Williams ain't there?
Speaker 1: You feel me? Niggas was at the US Open for
Speaker 1: Serena to retire again. Eminem, y'all let that nigga back
Speaker 1: in the super he retired. Pilgrim. He's a pilgrim. No,
Speaker 1: you ain't. Eminem is a pilgrim.
Speaker 2: When you've never seen that tweet where it's like this
Speaker 2: girl like me and my nigga, they't like, Well, he's white, so.
Speaker 3: He's your pilgrim. Okay, yes, sorry, let me you be
Speaker 3: calling yo the white guys.
Speaker 2: You gotta say white nigga say way I'm never calling
Speaker 2: a nigga a white nigga.
Speaker 1: You just gonna call it. I didn't just say he
Speaker 1: a nigga. I said eminem. We did I call him?
Speaker 1: I said the N word for eminel van d. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can hold it back. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I think the way that.
Speaker 3: I love calling people crackings, so I would rather call
Speaker 3: him a cracking nigga.
Speaker 1: Did what off Florida as any who?
Speaker 3: I just want y'all know we did not mean to
Speaker 3: play with your emotions. However, Rihanna Benn said she ain't
Speaker 3: giving you no more music.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he retired. Y'all, y'all not getting a song.
Speaker 1: You can't compare to jay Z and Rihanna. Let them
Speaker 1: be mad, but you got me fucked up. Do you
Speaker 1: know how many times you set up here and said,
Speaker 1: I'm the beyond bitch. We is go see here, compare
Speaker 1: it to us? I am? Mind you.
Speaker 3: We had over twenty five thousand comments and a thousand
Speaker 3: fucking think pieces from all of our peers.
Speaker 1: Oh, y'all was wrong anyways.
Speaker 3: I just want y'all to know that I love the
Speaker 3: audience and I take it in stride that you guys
Speaker 3: actually do view us, view us like a jay Z
Speaker 3: and a Soreena. Because baby, we was in y'all's mouths.
Speaker 3: Y'all was in the comments. We are as big as them, bitch.
Speaker 1: I don't like that.
Speaker 3: You're trying to be humble like we not them girls.
Speaker 3: What of the podcasts? What do they talk about?
Speaker 1: And you sold a show yesterday? We sold out? Hold on,
Speaker 1: wait wait wait on a Tuesday, bitch got the club
Speaker 1: going up on a Tuesday. Niggas used a PTO and
Speaker 1: flew in.
Speaker 3: Half of the audience on a Tuesday was not even
Speaker 3: from London.
Speaker 1: L a oh. I don't know why they say.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the girl that really came up. It
Speaker 2: was like I had a really long commute. I'm in
Speaker 2: New York for my for my first time by myself
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 1: We were like, where are you from? Girl? She said, Jersey.
Speaker 1: Don't do that, Connecticut, Jersey. I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 3: But when I lived in Lebronx, I used to be
Speaker 3: able to talk to a nigga in Connecticut because they
Speaker 3: was closer than a nigga in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: That's God. That is no.
Speaker 3: Tony Hawk was Tony hall was was incredible. I do
Speaker 3: want to shout out to all of the fans, all
Speaker 3: of the Whore High members, everyone who made sure to
Speaker 3: be a part of that very very very special night.
Speaker 1: It was cute.
Speaker 2: It was and Mandy and I like, uh, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's funny because I saw something like, oh, maybe they
Speaker 2: got back together real quick and just decided they was
Speaker 2: gonna break up and then then and I'm like, it
Speaker 2: did one night only. I will say that us having
Speaker 2: that show and this is why that was really fun.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 3: Don't listen to them because they not. There's still a
Speaker 3: big pot in our space. But Queen's Flip called me
Speaker 3: before we went on stage because they knew we had
Speaker 3: a show, and they were like, wait, I thought it
Speaker 3: was over. Niggas called me on airic for on the
Speaker 3: Joe Buna podcast to talk about what the fuck is
Speaker 3: going on with us, and I'm like, this is too
Speaker 3: where Joe you be loud and wrong and this is
Speaker 3: where as other podcast is too. Don't listen to that, nigga.
Speaker 3: He is entertainment, he'd be lying. They called, and I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, nigga, rebrand decisions decisions horrible.
Speaker 1: Behind a Paywalt.
Speaker 3: Then Flip thought we went behind on Patreon because of Joe,
Speaker 3: and I said, actually, wit what Weezy and I have
Speaker 3: been on Patreon since twenty seventeen. Clocket in terms of
Speaker 3: where we've been on Patreon, I think I wanted like
Speaker 3: he tried to think that we were trying to copy
Speaker 3: Andrew Schultz about Flagrant, I mean about Patreon. So I
Speaker 3: want y'all to know us going behind Patreon. If you
Speaker 3: decide to become a Patreon member and really get into
Speaker 3: horrible decisions, you guys will have content dating back to
Speaker 3: twenty Bro.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest with you. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: this quat because now I'm a little irritated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am really out of the podcast fear.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have made jokes about
Speaker 2: me saying that as a podcast studio owner, but I
Speaker 2: kind of find it to be infectious. I really kind
Speaker 2: of hate it, and to think that we've taken anything
Speaker 2: from someone when I've literally watched one of our games
Speaker 2: at Life not I've actually seen the shit we do
Speaker 2: at three live shows. I've continually continuously seen podcasts that
Speaker 2: are bigger than us do things that we've done right
Speaker 2: the merch.
Speaker 1: By the way, we had a call with Patreon.
Speaker 3: Patreon even allowing merch to be a part of Tears
Speaker 3: came from They literally said on the phone, we saw
Speaker 3: what you guys were doing with giving merch to patri
Speaker 3: and we added it to the platform. It's just that
Speaker 3: how long we have been on Patreon, that we they've
Speaker 3: integrated stuff that we started eight years ago.
Speaker 2: Bro, I might take a dress outfit a little style
Speaker 2: tip from a bitch, but I ain't never had to
Speaker 2: do that horrible like, I'm sorry, Like this show eight
Speaker 2: years is a long fucking time. You can check your
Speaker 2: favorite pods and see when they started, and I've never
Speaker 2: had to steal shit from a bitch.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When you are a listener of a certain pot, you
Speaker 2: think anything you hear somewhere else has been influenced.
Speaker 1: People really aren't free thinkers. No, they're not.
Speaker 2: People don't somewhere where the fuck I took my black
Speaker 2: and white nails from, Like everybody thinks it's gonna come
Speaker 2: from somewhere else. And fortunately, being that this brand is
Speaker 2: so long standing, well technically it's episode one.
Speaker 3: It's gonna always nice. Episode three ninety nine. But we're
Speaker 3: gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we go, we go it.
Speaker 2: I want y'all to know there's over there's like six
Speaker 2: hundred episodes of content that we have. And this is
Speaker 2: not to say other people aren't taste makers. Of course,
Speaker 2: having been the first Spotify podcast, you know, shout out
Speaker 2: to Orian mal two, those three people doing that is
Speaker 2: very important culturally for black people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, podcasting, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily mean because someone's bigger than we've ever
Speaker 2: taken something. The way that we've been able to stand
Speaker 2: on our two feet yep, and create and still groundbreak
Speaker 2: with things just because you may not have listened to
Speaker 2: this show before is monumental for us and other women
Speaker 2: in the space and black women in the space. And
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now to be at in
Speaker 2: Cans for that international festival Loins and which we're gonna
Speaker 2: be at again and have iHeart and partners of iHeart
Speaker 2: talk about what we've created. Sit on panels, Nigga, I
Speaker 2: ran a fucking division at Audible. The jobs I've fucking
Speaker 2: had just because I did this podcast. You're not gonna
Speaker 2: tell me, because you're a nigga on the Internet that
Speaker 2: I ain't shit.
Speaker 1: Oh period, Like, you can't.
Speaker 3: Say that we trash and I still got more money
Speaker 3: in my four one K than you'r nigga's making about
Speaker 3: two years combined.
Speaker 1: And but we ain't gonna I.
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna get it because y'all was back to watch
Speaker 3: it like a bitch and a bitch over he got money,
Speaker 3: I got the things coming.
Speaker 1: By the way, we wait, black bag. But also also
Speaker 1: it's not over.
Speaker 3: We do have another announcement coming next week, you guys,
Speaker 3: We have another announcement coming. So sorry, get your heart
Speaker 3: palpitations back back right, bitches, Okay, and were back with
Speaker 3: the good ship, but we are about to give y'all.
Speaker 1: One announcement we don't have. I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 3: Oh that's well not Yeah, you fucked last night, you
Speaker 3: could be. No, are you ovulating or anything? Oh of
Speaker 3: course he did, but you talk about cream pine all
Speaker 3: the time. Oh my god, Mandy, Hey, wait what you
Speaker 3: when he got you sunflowers?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: If that was I did mention like after I was like,
Speaker 2: oh like he was like, does Mandy like anything? Because
Speaker 2: I grabbed I literally told him sunflowers after they were
Speaker 2: in his hands.
Speaker 1: Oh, after they were in his hand. Yeah, because then
Speaker 1: they told me the realty. Yeah, I mean bit yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben even and firm quick my best friend, and hit
Speaker 1: my assistant, and I love that. I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure there were sunflowers, but I can't believe it would.
Speaker 1: It makes me think that you don't fucking listen.
Speaker 3: Do you know how much I've talked about these goddamn
Speaker 3: getting ugly flowers from my ex?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Wait, I know your favorite flowers flower. I just felt like,
Speaker 2: what if I'm wrong and this bitch kids really mad?
Speaker 1: Again? Before we get on stay, no.
Speaker 3: No, no, I just don't like funeral home flowers. But I
Speaker 3: would have accepted funeral home flowers from your nigga, Like
Speaker 3: I would have accepted that. But I'm not accepting funeral
Speaker 3: home flowers from my nigga on balance.
Speaker 1: I day and look now you're triggering me. Let's get
Speaker 1: into hypothetically speaking, bitch, all right, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Are you so?
Speaker 2: Manny and I over the years have had so many
Speaker 2: times if you were at Sony Hall, we talked about
Speaker 2: this where we've been like how much would you do
Speaker 2: this for?
Speaker 1: What if this? What if that?
Speaker 2: And so many different icebreakers with guests we thought, why
Speaker 2: not do this every I think.
Speaker 3: I think, by the way, if y'all go back and
Speaker 3: listen to how much we would take to get shipped
Speaker 3: on or pissed on, those numbers were outrageous and not
Speaker 3: even real because you definitely got pissed on for.
Speaker 1: Three Wow, I goted not for love, bitch for love?
Speaker 2: Speaking of love, bitch, Oh what we'll call me a
Speaker 2: whole tep because I got the new tattoo.
Speaker 1: We decided it is very I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: All that shit that you talked about, waste, bead holes,
Speaker 3: this nigga eating and whatever you is hurt. You gotta
Speaker 3: stop talking about it. You got a whole steps to me.
Speaker 3: You got this little test you were giving whole tem bit.
Speaker 2: Me and mommy had decided to take one of our
Speaker 2: tasks that we liked. Right, so I've art on my stomach.
Speaker 2: He stole that and I took the lines on his neck.
Speaker 3: And you've been wanting this, You said that on the
Speaker 3: podcast that you've been saying you wouldn't want You've been
Speaker 3: probably since you first met him, and then you wanted it.
Speaker 3: So y'all wanted to it when when you first met
Speaker 3: you said, oh, I'm still yours, and then you could
Speaker 3: take this one.
Speaker 1: I thought I was doing something so original, y'all. I
Speaker 1: was at the tattoo shop.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I know people get each other's names,
Speaker 2: but have you ever seen someone steal another tattoo and
Speaker 2: brand them? So they were like, yeah, old time. I
Speaker 2: thought we were doing something so amazing. I wanted to
Speaker 2: fucking trot in the sand. I wanted to do it
Speaker 2: on a full moon. I was like, good, she's the
Speaker 2: same needle. I was acting crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh God, blood brothers, full moon and ship bro. I
Speaker 3: never want to hear you talk about whole teps and
Speaker 3: a negative.
Speaker 1: Because I don't eat.
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna eat no, no, no, that's that's vegans. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about hotep.
Speaker 1: Ho tep being it too. No no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1: You are the waistbeed girl. Oh yeah, don't do that
Speaker 1: alumin up. Don't do every other which way. So you
Speaker 1: are a hotep that wears aluminum dealdant. That's it.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm trying to But everything else is they
Speaker 3: say nigga with their friends. They feel like they should,
Speaker 3: they just don't say it on the internet. Hold on, wait,
Speaker 3: what else hoteps do that there are, Bro, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What do you mean we know?
Speaker 3: No, but she's a hotel. She is the same person
Speaker 3: that she'd be talking about.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I anyway have too many raves to be
Speaker 1: a hotel. They know at the raves, Bro, like black
Speaker 1: people started this music. That's you whatever, bitchypothetically speak, hypothetically speak,
Speaker 1: Oh shit, that's right. Okay.
Speaker 2: I made it up because I felt like, yeah, but
Speaker 2: you did this outline? Okay, I like this one. So
Speaker 2: would you rather have to watch before you have a
Speaker 2: mind blowing orgasm? A five minute clip of your partner
Speaker 2: and their acts sharing a very intimate moment. Could be sex,
Speaker 2: could be kissing, could be affirmations of them saying I
Speaker 2: love you okay for your orgasm? Or be celibate for
Speaker 2: a year? Mind you, every time you receive an orgasm,
Speaker 2: you have to watch a clip of the person that
Speaker 2: you're having it with with someone else, or I celibacy
Speaker 2: for a year.
Speaker 1: Do I have an orgasm and then I'm celibate for
Speaker 1: a year?
Speaker 2: Every time in the years, every time every time you fuck,
Speaker 2: you have to watch that person with someone else in
Speaker 2: a video.
Speaker 4: Does everything go back? To normal after one year. Yes,
Speaker 4: I'll be sold for a year. Damn, I'm not watching
Speaker 4: a five minute clip every time. I know at least
Speaker 4: twice five that's ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Hold on, wait you you suck that bitts. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm fine with it. What if I know
Speaker 1: that that relationship is over me, getting a peek into
Speaker 1: maybe how you showed up for your ex would kind
Speaker 1: of be re Try don't do that to me? Read
Speaker 1: anyy okay? Can we can we remember that? Also?
Speaker 3: I'm someone who can only because I saw it recently
Speaker 3: gets a spark of virality.
Speaker 1: But when I talked about me being okay with my
Speaker 1: partner watching my friend's OnlyFans page or if she was
Speaker 1: a porn starn our episode, so to me, though, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Intimate moments and intimate what have you heard? The same ship?
Speaker 1: Bro, I ain't gonna hold you only.
Speaker 2: You know on much Y'allake niggas is the same, right,
Speaker 2: But you don't think they'll start to infect your brand.
Speaker 3: I'll take them to the same restaurant, same bar. Oh noah,
Speaker 3: but I had to check this one. Bartender Nigga said,
Speaker 3: we're a big man at bro. The motherfuck you're doing that?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: He called it out, and I'm like, could I started
Speaker 3: bringing my new niggas to the bar?
Speaker 1: I like, and the motherfucker bartender was like, what happened
Speaker 1: to big Man? Can you say that you'll homework? No?
Speaker 1: He knew big Man was no. Maybe he thought they
Speaker 1: was your homework, which.
Speaker 3: Is bad because then date did he look gay? No, nigga,
Speaker 3: I bought a date. Why are you bringing up my
Speaker 3: ex while I'm here with another nigga?
Speaker 1: What you're doing? Like bartenders, Hey, hold on, let me
Speaker 1: talk to y'all real quick. Bartenders, servers, hostess with the
Speaker 1: most hold on, bottle girls, people in the front of
Speaker 1: the club. Now I'm talking to y'all real quick. If
Speaker 1: you see on the rouse, if you see.
Speaker 3: Me come to your establishment a lot, it's a certain person.
Speaker 3: And then I show up with another person, Do not
Speaker 3: ask about the motherfucker who is not with me.
Speaker 1: Wait, it is not all on. It ain't show business.
Speaker 1: And the person that I'm with now now you'd have
Speaker 1: made it awkward. They're trying to be funny.
Speaker 3: I don't think it is appropriate. Hold on, because bitch,
Speaker 3: he lucky. You got a tip that night. I do
Speaker 3: not think it is this appropriate if you sit here
Speaker 3: and ask me about where the gentleman is when I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here with another gentleman.
Speaker 1: Baby, let me get my shit off.
Speaker 3: This is why we have to have this goddamn podcast,
Speaker 3: because what if both of them, my nigga, now you
Speaker 3: make it awkward.
Speaker 1: They both know how to talk about one on horrible decisions.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, no, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna still talk about the same men. By the way,
Speaker 1: you just made me think of a memory. This one.
Speaker 2: My nigga thought I was really crazy. We were dating
Speaker 2: for a few months and he recommended this spot in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I'm like, have you ever been there? He said, no, cool.
Speaker 1: We walk in. I had to go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: really bad.
Speaker 2: When I got out of the bathroom, he was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't like to table, Let's move over there. So
Speaker 2: waitress comes up and she goes, oh, hello again, And
Speaker 2: I said hello again.
Speaker 1: Nigga, you've been here before, and he was like no.
Speaker 2: I was just sitting over there and was like, no, no, nah,
Speaker 2: that hello again sounded like you being this mother.
Speaker 1: Fucker just wanted to argue the way you really just
Speaker 1: be extra.
Speaker 2: Why because why you're gonna tell me you ain't never
Speaker 2: been somewhere but the bitch said hello again. Now you're
Speaker 2: coming back with the motherfucking toppers in the bread, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna ask this hop have you seen him?
Speaker 1: A fuck? I wouldn't be mad. I'm not mad if
Speaker 1: you've been here before. Do I not of mean nigga?
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at a nigga even No, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna hold you back to the hypothetical. If an orgasm
Speaker 3: is the orgasm that I be like craving, like that's
Speaker 3: really good, because I do prefer orgasming over not orgasming.
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear.
Speaker 3: If all I gotta do is watch you with your
Speaker 3: ex for five minutes before we fucked for about two hours,
Speaker 3: give me that fine out.
Speaker 1: I'm start thinking you want to help. No, that's not
Speaker 1: what the hypothetical was watching. That's what I'm saying, bitch.
Speaker 2: If I got to see that every time I'm about
Speaker 2: the fuck, I'm gonna start thinking about this bitch every day.
Speaker 2: You're bad perspiraling, Hey, you're bad like see like it's
Speaker 2: going unfair.
Speaker 1: They are broken up and we together in the orgasms
Speaker 1: are for me. I'm not having this dude being part
Speaker 1: of my relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because now now adding about to start calling oh
Speaker 2: this pussy good Frank.
Speaker 1: I would never call someone Wait why would because he
Speaker 1: watching the ex every time he about the fuck.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie y'all doing the most give me
Speaker 3: my orgasm for a little clip.
Speaker 2: Now in our new episodes, we're going to start doing
Speaker 2: reactionary clips. We're gonna start giving you our thoughts immediately
Speaker 2: when we see a video. That's right, since the holidays
Speaker 2: are coming and Thanksgiving just passed. I saw this and
Speaker 2: I was like, huh, I don't really like to do
Speaker 2: Dan wilds a little honey, but I don't know his
Speaker 2: name for.
Speaker 1: Whatever? The name Dan? What the RIGI are talking about?
Speaker 1: Dan Bid? Why do you think I know a rich
Speaker 1: white nigga? You've seen him? Name Dan? Who is that?
Speaker 1: Who is do you know? Okay? Do you want me
Speaker 1: to play? Okay, we're gonna play the clip.
Speaker 5: I took three girls home, four girls home for Christmas
Speaker 5: vacation and you know, introduce them all of my fucking
Speaker 5: family and parents and took turns fucking them. You know,
Speaker 5: it's like that was not a normal family dynamic. But
Speaker 5: that's what I want to do. So that's what I
Speaker 5: fucking did you know. It's like, you know, you can
Speaker 5: do whatever the fuck you want. Man Like, you'll figure
Speaker 5: out what you like what you don't like. But don't
Speaker 5: let society tell you what to do. Don't like you
Speaker 5: let your friends, you know, influence you.
Speaker 1: I love this clip. Okay, Look, look, I knew we
Speaker 1: were gonna have different thoughts on this. When I saw
Speaker 1: you pick this clip.
Speaker 3: I knew you was gonna be phony because I like
Speaker 3: I knew he was gonna be phony. I just knew
Speaker 3: he was gonna be phony. I just want to use
Speaker 3: that word. But I knew you wasn't gonna like it.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, but you're very non traditional in the
Speaker 3: things that you.
Speaker 2: Do, so so okay, I just know you'll take so
Speaker 2: go ahead and be problematic.
Speaker 1: It's been in a threattle.
Speaker 2: If you used to listen, Yes, I was in a threutle.
Speaker 2: My mom was accepting of it, right, Yes, my scissors
Speaker 2: mom wouldn't have been okay.
Speaker 1: Beard Bae's dad was.
Speaker 2: I don't know if his mom knew, but like, out
Speaker 2: of the three of us, if someone had a family
Speaker 2: member there wasn't accepting, which I would assume scissors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was her.
Speaker 2: If her parents were like, we don't want to see
Speaker 2: the two of them on Christmas and she wanted to
Speaker 2: be with her family, I absolutely think she'd be in
Speaker 2: her right to do so. I also think it's understandable.
Speaker 2: I think that sometimes we push it a little bit
Speaker 2: now when it comes to queerness and things like that.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but bringing a polycule to Christmas,
Speaker 2: I do think that you gotta ease people in and
Speaker 2: for him saying like, fuck it, this is the life
Speaker 2: I want to live, Like, I don't think it's family
Speaker 2: or fuck it when it comes to having a lifestyle
Speaker 2: that maybe a little much for them, Like, I just kind.
Speaker 1: Of believe in old people.
Speaker 2: If you're in your fourth quarter, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: push my wild shit on you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I hear you, I hear you know what?
Speaker 2: And again, decision decisions. We will be talking about how
Speaker 2: we navigate non traditional relationships. Yeah, and so as someone
Speaker 2: that's been non monogamist, as we both have been talking
Speaker 2: like this for eight years, Yes, I actually still have
Speaker 2: that opinion.
Speaker 1: I and I don't. And here's why.
Speaker 3: Listening to this I the reason why I loved him
Speaker 3: saying it is not that he's forcing his lifestyle onto
Speaker 3: these I'm bringing loved ones around it for a family, weekend, gathering, holiday, whatever.
Speaker 1: I am bringing my partners who you may only not
Speaker 1: accept because of the dynamic of our relationship that to
Speaker 1: me is not even near or close to the way
Speaker 1: in which you accept the abuser that I've been married
Speaker 1: to to show up. We've been together as the two
Speaker 1: person dynamic. You know, he lays hands on me. You
Speaker 1: know he's not a good father. But you accept a
Speaker 1: nigga who's actually not a good person in so many
Speaker 1: other dynamics, and he's allowed around because that's my husband,
Speaker 1: that's my boyfriend, that's the bab the father to my child.
Speaker 1: I feel like you going extreme. No, I'm not going extreme.
Speaker 1: The idea is that it's so uncomfortable for a family
Speaker 1: dynamic or friends to accept how I choose to be
Speaker 1: in a loving relationship. Well maybe because this clip wasn't loving. No no,
Speaker 1: no no. I chose to fuck for a girls on Christmas,
Speaker 1: But that means I love these these is my bitches
Speaker 1: and if I want to fuck on Christmas and then
Speaker 1: holding on a period on fucking, or even if they
Speaker 1: own their period on fucking.
Speaker 3: He's like to me, but but to me, he's fucking
Speaker 3: his partners on the holidays.
Speaker 1: Those are his partners.
Speaker 3: I think to me, we have accepted far too long
Speaker 3: actually bad partners that still get to come around, that
Speaker 3: still that don't pay the bills, that abuse, that use,
Speaker 3: that are genuinely not good people. But because you're in
Speaker 3: a dynamic now, your father, your cousin up, we often
Speaker 3: accept that person even though we don't like them, even
Speaker 3: though that they don't treat you well. This idea that
Speaker 3: we could accept them fucked up people, but you can't
Speaker 3: accept me coming in with two people that I love.
Speaker 3: You loved those two people and they didn't abuse you.
Speaker 3: When you were in that throuple, it was a really healthy,
Speaker 3: loving dynamic. This idea that I'm forcing it on to you,
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm bringing my friends around. I'm bringing people
Speaker 3: that love me.
Speaker 2: I do think forcing is when you say take it
Speaker 2: or leave it. I think you're giving an ultimatum. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the issue with a lot of scenarios
Speaker 2: in which people are talking too for me, it's elders, right,
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm speaking from a place of where my
Speaker 2: parents are older, so I kind of get it. And
Speaker 2: luckily my mom is so whatever right right now. Literally,
Speaker 2: my mom in my la crib lives above me. And
Speaker 2: so when I said we had a date with a
Speaker 2: girl who's coming over for dinner, my mom is like,
Speaker 2: do you not.
Speaker 3: Think it's a take it or leave it when the
Speaker 3: whole family knows that this person is doing awful things
Speaker 3: to you, But because he's your partner, you're still going
Speaker 3: to bring him.
Speaker 1: I think you're giving a hypothetical that isn't there. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying to me, and it just because.
Speaker 2: Someone's a good person doesn't necessarily mean that means your
Speaker 2: family has to accept them super fast.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, don't know me neither.
Speaker 3: But the idea that my partner's purio can't come over
Speaker 3: because of the dynamic of the relationship. If I'm in
Speaker 3: a monogamous relationship with just one other person, yet y'all
Speaker 3: know he's a fucked up person or she a fucked
Speaker 3: up person.
Speaker 1: Why does it have to be that well, be that
Speaker 1: out of it first? No, to me, that's the dynamic. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: say this, say that, just like this situation Christmas comes,
Speaker 1: you have three boyfriends. Your mom's like, I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to bring a wrye. Maybe it
Speaker 1: makes her uncomfortable, Maybe it's religious shit. Maybe she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to see you in this. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'mquet with it. My mom is cool with it, but
Speaker 2: I'm talking about if she wasn't. I would not give
Speaker 2: up my relationship with my mom because I'm in a
Speaker 2: non traditional relationship. I would have a receparate relationship with
Speaker 2: my family and hope they come around. But I think
Speaker 2: the do or die it's too bad. If you don't
Speaker 2: like it, I'm not coming. It's kind of off.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I hear you, but I don't think
Speaker 1: you're hearing.
Speaker 3: My parallel to me, the idea that we accept awful
Speaker 3: partners because they're in a traditional relationship.
Speaker 1: That's my thing. To me, it is a take it
Speaker 1: or leave it.
Speaker 3: I think a parent could be like, yo, I don't
Speaker 3: like your partner, he's an awful person, don't bring him around.
Speaker 3: I think that's the same way as you're uncomfortable with
Speaker 3: the fact that my partner's an abuser say parallel to
Speaker 3: you're uncomfortable with the dynamics of a non traditional relationship.
Speaker 1: To me, it is a take it or leave it.
Speaker 1: I think everyone has the right to My problem.
Speaker 3: Is, I guess one is my problem is, Yeah, one
Speaker 3: is actually harmful, I actually don't like this person. The
Speaker 3: other is just based on how I choose to live
Speaker 3: my life. One is judging and the other is like, oh,
Speaker 3: so you're only accepting my partner because we're in a
Speaker 3: traditional relationship. And I guess here's my problem. The normalization
Speaker 3: of us being in abusive relationships, of relationships with cheaters,
Speaker 3: relationships with people that actually do harm to us. That
Speaker 3: being accepted over non traditional relationships, to me has to
Speaker 3: be dismantled.
Speaker 1: I guess if that was the case.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's like, I don't know, just kind
Speaker 2: of watching a little bit of the difference in dynamics
Speaker 2: with one family being cool one not.
Speaker 1: I like him fucking his three girlfriends. I don't think
Speaker 1: happened at the fucking Thanksgiving Day table, like he fucked
Speaker 1: him in the room or at the hotel or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I do think that again, we talked about, or
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about PDA and how I
Speaker 1: and how I like portray it. I don't think you
Speaker 1: should be tonguing down your girlfriend and boyfriend in front
Speaker 1: of your family, But I don't think any i'd be
Speaker 1: telling niggas to get a room all the time. I
Speaker 1: think it's inappropriate in a monogamous relationship. So to me,
Speaker 1: I think there are levels of respecting people within the
Speaker 1: dynamics of your relationship. But not yes for me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when we have what people think are radical thoughts,
Speaker 2: and I would say it's rather cool to have three girlfriends.
Speaker 2: I do think that maybe three girl for a long time,
Speaker 2: they maybe do didn't know about the hill.
Speaker 1: Oh the family due the family donet met them all
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? Like, so I can't bring all
Speaker 1: three of our girlfriends over, like y'all ain't met all
Speaker 1: three of them already.
Speaker 2: I've just said I just went something slightly radical that
Speaker 2: I wanted to not be radical anymore.
Speaker 1: I think it is. That's that's all. We gotta have
Speaker 1: these conversations. Decisions, Mitch, y'all need to make the decisions.
Speaker 3: You want to accept that your son and daughter gonna
Speaker 3: have multiple partners, or you want to accept your partner
Speaker 3: being with an abuser, and I know, yes, extremes, but
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, damn.
Speaker 2: Bitch, ed, what would you do if you had two
Speaker 2: girlfriends and your family said, hey, this Christmas, like it's
Speaker 2: we don't want to see both them bitches, Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Just see my family. No, I would go see my
Speaker 1: family me too, without your partners.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what if you guys want to go
Speaker 3: to our Patreoch, you really We did a really interesting
Speaker 3: breakdown on the Jirog Carmichael Show, and it was very
Speaker 3: Truman like, but we both had a we had a
Speaker 3: difference in opinion around him coming out and him forcing
Speaker 3: his sexuality onto his parents and so y'all can see
Speaker 3: the dynamics there.
Speaker 1: And I think it.
Speaker 2: May be because he was sharing photos with the dad.
Speaker 1: I found that to be inappropriate. No, I mean I
Speaker 1: would I think I wouldn't show my mom photos of it.
Speaker 2: I felt like Gerard's gayness was And I really hated
Speaker 2: that episode because when I think back on it, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that like he should accept his parents
Speaker 2: not loving him. I just meant we got to dial
Speaker 2: it back with like I'm doing this here, like, for example,
Speaker 2: me telling my mom I'm gay. Here's my girlfriend scissors.
Speaker 2: It's very different from me, and like, look, this is this,
Speaker 2: this is that, this is the.
Speaker 1: App We're saying the same thing the same way. I
Speaker 1: think you should be able to doing. You can.
Speaker 3: You can exist a in a non traditional relationship without
Speaker 3: displaying like being over the top with it.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know me. Oh, if y'all don't like
Speaker 1: my the.
Speaker 3: Way I choose to receive love, yeah, fuck y'all, I
Speaker 3: ain't coming. I don't like y'all the way y'all cook anyway.
Speaker 3: Now I gotta see here and be around a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of niggas like family is not to me. And
Speaker 3: I've said this, my friends come first, the way I
Speaker 3: live life. I'm not gonna have y'all sit here and
Speaker 3: dictate who I'm with, how I love, how I receive love,
Speaker 3: because y'all are too ignorant to unlearn the things that
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Genuinely, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that this is also something else too, Right,
Speaker 2: we're from a different era. I don't know if my
Speaker 2: family necessarily hates me, but if it's gonna take them time,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna allow and give them grace for time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you have older parents, y'all. Y'all my parents, I
Speaker 2: think fifties sixties too. I understand that's still a different era, dude,
Speaker 2: polyamory even twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Like I actually do think to give people grace. I
Speaker 1: hate that home grace grace. I don't know why we'd
Speaker 1: be working at you even talk about it with the whore.
Speaker 1: I don't like that grace. I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 3: I don't like that grace. Don't need to come around
Speaker 3: all the time, girl, tell that hold back up.
Speaker 2: Honestly, this whole conversation when you ask me if I
Speaker 2: would be in a throttle again is why I said no.
Speaker 2: I own dating an African and you know, his family
Speaker 2: gonna judge wall maybe not, they're used to having I
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna judge, but you can like they're family.
Speaker 1: They do. But I'm like, literally, just his family is great.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that his family winning scept I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: just seeing again being part of a big family.
Speaker 1: I only have two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like, wow, kids, all this stuff, Like
Speaker 2: I can understand people, and some of them are religious.
Speaker 2: I can understand, Like you still want to have your
Speaker 2: family dynamic without exing them out because you guys don't
Speaker 2: agree on thing. This isn't like their fucking trumpers, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we don't agree on stuff, and there is something that's
Speaker 2: too much for you. Fine, Like I don't want to
Speaker 2: ever push you. You have to remember we're looking at
Speaker 2: it like love. They look at it like sexuality.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: I actually realized the difference between us, and maybe because
Speaker 3: you have that small dynamic of a family unit what
Speaker 3: I've learned, and maybe because this is how my mom
Speaker 3: was coming from an abusive dynamic with with her growing up.
Speaker 3: Once I was able to view family members as the
Speaker 3: adults and humans that they are, I no longer grant
Speaker 3: them the grace of because they are family members. I
Speaker 3: think we allow family members to get away with a
Speaker 3: lot of awful behavior and bullshit rhetoric because they're family.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I don't have I have a
Speaker 3: strained relationship with my sister, my dad, my great grandfather,
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of strained relationships because of how
Speaker 3: they show up as humans that I don't fuck with.
Speaker 3: And so if I don't fuck with how you are
Speaker 3: as a human being. Fuck family, bro. That blood is
Speaker 3: thicker than water. Bullshit, bitch, that's science. I guess think
Speaker 3: that should be then when it come out my goddamn coaching,
Speaker 3: I guess letting.
Speaker 2: It quiet disappointment, like I am talking about. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, family that you want to spend a holiday with.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't want. I don't even want to
Speaker 2: spend it with them. I was with the Sanders family anyway.
Speaker 2: And sex miss Carolyn damn bi Okay, sex history y'all
Speaker 2: like all them niggas.
Speaker 1: Uh, sex history myself that a lot, but the kids,
Speaker 1: but family care about it.
Speaker 3: We need to get you some. No, I'm waiting for
Speaker 3: the aliens. Well no, then I got mad, bitch. They
Speaker 3: said they was here.
Speaker 1: You want an alien dick? No, because then I'm mad.
Speaker 3: They said that it was really them niggas like in
Speaker 3: the ocean, so I feel like it really is octopus.
Speaker 3: I thought there was gonna be aliens that look like people. No,
Speaker 3: I don't want to fuck octopus.
Speaker 1: Bro. That shit pissed me off. Not the aliens being
Speaker 1: in the ocean. A lot, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of hands.
Speaker 3: I don't want that. You wouldn't take eight dicks over one.
Speaker 3: I want eight dicks. I don't want eight tentacles. What
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: You don't want tentacles? No, no, no. If we go
Speaker 1: back to horrorble, we're not gonna do that. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. We're not gonna do this.
Speaker 3: I like like you say it's alien dick, but you
Speaker 3: said my occopus.
Speaker 1: I would like.
Speaker 3: I literally said, I don't want him to have the tentacles,
Speaker 3: like I don't want the suction anyway, girl, dog girl.
Speaker 1: Sex history? What'll be talking about? So you want to
Speaker 1: be gay so bad?
Speaker 2: Let's go an have a new lesbian tattoo.
Speaker 1: I'm nah.
Speaker 2: We are going to be talking every single week about
Speaker 2: sex history, digging into something that we all know. It
Speaker 2: could be BDSM, it could be lesbians, it could be homophobia,
Speaker 2: it could be fucking Christmas, it could be anything, digging
Speaker 2: into the.
Speaker 1: Sexual history of it.
Speaker 2: And sometimes the history may go back to early two thousands,
Speaker 2: and in this case it's far back.
Speaker 3: You're taking us like before Christ or after death. The
Speaker 3: way I had to look up with BC and ADSA
Speaker 3: for BBC. Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't don't for real me, nigga, but you had a
Speaker 1: history class.
Speaker 2: She just says she ain't no you and it's not
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. Hello, Okay, So lesbianism. I wanted to get
Speaker 2: into the sex history of homosexuality between women because many
Speaker 2: times when we're talking about gayness if men, we talked
Speaker 2: about Greeks and it was fucking an ass. But during
Speaker 2: the Mesopotamia ERAa, which is seventeen hundred b C. Before Christ,
Speaker 2: when people were dealing with the gay shit together, we
Speaker 2: didn't see lesbians. We saw woman man, which was gender
Speaker 2: non confirming individual. So what I started to look up
Speaker 2: was that basically we can't figure out who lesbians were
Speaker 2: because they may have been butcher Wait no, yes, literally,
Speaker 2: they could have been women that just wanted to have
Speaker 2: a masculine appearance. So in Mesopotamia when they said women man,
Speaker 2: they're just like, oh, is this someone who's trans or
Speaker 2: just someone who was more masculine. That's why you don't
Speaker 2: see any lesbian relationships in that era for them.
Speaker 3: I think also based on the science that took place
Speaker 3: in like the nineteen forties and fifties, I think a
Speaker 3: leaning into religion. They viewed sex for women as just
Speaker 3: a reproductive act because they wanted them to be moms
Speaker 3: and wives and that's it. But also it took a
Speaker 3: long time for society to actually even realize that we
Speaker 3: were sexual beings that craved.
Speaker 1: Sex, hysteria, the vibrator.
Speaker 2: We'll dig into that for sure, now this one, I
Speaker 2: love nearing din in my heart. So in China, Chinese
Speaker 2: early history shows that sexual activity between women was accepted
Speaker 2: and actively encouraged. This is important because throughout history homosexuality
Speaker 2: is shunned, right, no Christmas dinner for you, your little horse man.
Speaker 1: Oh that sodom mean that was digging each other down
Speaker 1: in the goddamn while so female same sex relationship were
Speaker 1: described as a special term.
Speaker 2: I love this douchey, I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2: Duichi maybe it's duiche it maybe literally meaning that cheat
Speaker 2: eating how d u I s hi don't say, Well,
Speaker 2: it means paired eating, possibly referring to kanalinge. So literally
Speaker 2: the term breaks down is to eating at the same
Speaker 2: time vists me. So when the government UH started uh
Speaker 2: getting into different ruling and having discussions amongst homosexual women,
Speaker 2: this to me was crazy. There is a text that
Speaker 2: talks about the daughter of a slave from a handbook
Speaker 2: Kung Dongsui fifth century, describing their contact and the women
Speaker 2: are practicing scissoring. This is the first time that scissoring
Speaker 2: has ever been discussed in history. It is in Chinese
Speaker 2: text from the fifth century. It is called translated the
Speaker 2: pair dance of the female phoenixes.
Speaker 1: This makes sense.
Speaker 3: I feel like Asians do the most scissoring because I
Speaker 3: heard their their men dicks be small anyway, so they
Speaker 3: probably says it with men too, like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, that's probably a.
Speaker 1: Way of science. Is that science? No, bitch, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be funny. Oh, but I do idea.
Speaker 3: Hear that the penises over there aren't that big, and
Speaker 3: so scissoring might be a thing that women realize they
Speaker 3: like because they gotta rub on it a little dick.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's a good point. Now this this I'm just
Speaker 1: making this up, but I feel like it would make sense.
Speaker 2: Now here's some people that couldn't stay y'all homoseexu wolves,
Speaker 2: including me. In India ancient times, they called it a disease.
Speaker 2: So basically, what was going on with the lesbians. Right
Speaker 2: in the second and third centuries, they were having fines
Speaker 2: if they engaged in ayoni, which is non vaginal sex,
Speaker 2: which basically means scissoring or homosexual sex, because they what
Speaker 2: was the fine?
Speaker 1: It doesn't say it the line.
Speaker 3: You know how sometimes you see you, you see a
Speaker 3: parking spot, and you're not supposed.
Speaker 2: To be like, but you look at the fine and
Speaker 2: it's light. Bitch, I'm a park here anyway. I think
Speaker 2: the five the fine matters. Like if you gonna find
Speaker 2: me one thousand dollars, I might actually have to think.
Speaker 2: But if you only gonna find me twenty five dollars,
Speaker 2: that is I would eat some pussy for that fine,
Speaker 2: me too, like and at cornington the fine price matter.
Speaker 2: To the first century legal text called the man Scrinty,
Speaker 2: there is a very small fine upon sex between non
Speaker 2: version women. However, one who manually deflowers a virgin. So
Speaker 2: if you were fingering a bitch, you were sentenced to
Speaker 2: the loss of two fingers.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold you. I'm not that pressed finger
Speaker 1: pussy if I gotta lose to my finger. Girl.
Speaker 2: If two virgins are caught doing the doer, they would
Speaker 2: have to pay her double the girl's dowry and given
Speaker 2: ten whiplashes. The man fails to provide punishment for arable
Speaker 2: oral and manual sex like scissoring.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, Wait a second. This one's first century
Speaker 1: AD in India.
Speaker 3: So this one first century and so this punishment during
Speaker 3: this time is if you finger dowry.
Speaker 1: So it's a fine, double the dowry and ten whiplashes.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. I like to be spain again.
Speaker 1: What is my dowry? What is double? It?
Speaker 3: Like if I only got a ten dollar dowry, it
Speaker 3: go to twenty dollars and then you gotta spitch?
Speaker 1: What are you only making pennies on the dollar back? Then?
Speaker 1: Oh see, now you're talking about inflation.
Speaker 3: I'm literally talking about if I had to deal with
Speaker 3: these type of like punishments today, would I give up
Speaker 3: eating kuchi or fingering couchie for the sake of punishment?
Speaker 3: And these punishments outside of the cutting off of my
Speaker 3: two fingers because I like my rings, and then I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to wear my rings if I'm missing
Speaker 3: two fingers.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the fines or the whiplashes. Nigga,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Are you talking about. I'm really thinking
Speaker 1: about these punishing I said, I need to wear my jewelry. Okay,
Speaker 1: so last one. Yes.
Speaker 2: In Thailand, Uh, we love a Thailand we go So
Speaker 2: what I do?
Speaker 1: Oh? Was that fucked up? The way that will SAWAIDI ka,
Speaker 1: that's crazy? Hold on. When I speak Spanish, I like
Speaker 1: to do it a little. I don't like.
Speaker 3: I think it's all I think it's all racist, is it?
Speaker 3: It's very problematic, But.
Speaker 1: When I do French it ain't. If you could keep
Speaker 1: doing these accents, I'm gonna bring back the M word
Speaker 1: and our word bitch. Not all decisions decisions you ain't
Speaker 1: which we need this one. Okay, you're right, you're right,
Speaker 1: You're right. Bad I'm better put that on the paywall.
Speaker 1: You want to follow over the Sorry? Okay, so what
Speaker 1: did you just say? Okay, don't say it again, Fidget Spinner.
Speaker 2: So in Thailand, when they talk about homosexuality and entaire history,
Speaker 2: it literally means to play with friends. When they talked
Speaker 2: about lesbians, and one of the earliest references was from
Speaker 2: a king, I swear to God mad I don't know
Speaker 2: to say this, but Ramnaught, who reigned in fourteen forty
Speaker 2: eight did penalize lesbian relationships in the palace, but the
Speaker 2: women that were penalized were penalized with each other.
Speaker 1: I don't like with whipping. That's another word. We might
Speaker 1: have to work on you. So there were royal harm.
Speaker 1: You say penalized, No, I say penalized. Y'all edvany just horny.
Speaker 2: I'm not horny. I am celibrated. Penalized because the patriarchy.
Speaker 1: Bitch. No, see, I don't like that. It's penalized. No,
Speaker 1: it's not fun.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so the tie people, even though they was
Speaker 2: cooling it a little bit, playing with friends, they made
Speaker 2: them whip each other. I thought that was so hot.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit about lesbianism in the early days.
Speaker 1: I can tell you. In twenty twenty four, honey, it's
Speaker 1: been hot for me. Have you been gay this year? Yeah, bitch,
Speaker 1: I dated the couple and I ate her pussy like
Speaker 1: Asian pussy. Hu I did Filipino. Don't do that. I
Speaker 1: don't like. It's a difference. It's a different with Filipino.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. They want to Tashi, But I don't
Speaker 1: like that. You say agent like she said Philippe.
Speaker 3: Philipp don't do that. She don't even talk like that.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she don't. I'm just saying she knew all
Speaker 3: of the verses to camrauns.
Speaker 1: What is it? Is you sucking or not? Is you okay? No?
Speaker 1: Well that's wasn't her first clearly, and she was cool
Speaker 1: in the Philippines. In the Philippines, they know English like
Speaker 1: I fuck with the Filipinos. What Filipino karaoke? That's their ship? Bro,
Speaker 1: I don't like that. What are you talking about? Just
Speaker 1: don't talk about the Philippinos like that? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Have you seen them niggas sing?
Speaker 4: Dad?
Speaker 1: Don't let them motherfucker get selenia on. So don't just
Speaker 1: call them Asian because they're not just Asian. The Philippino anyway,
Speaker 1: we're trying to be like, come give out of your
Speaker 1: money and here we go. We gotta cut all this
Speaker 1: Agian shut out. No we're not. We're keeping it all
Speaker 1: we are so we're all plan to Express and all
Speaker 1: of the other Asian companies. Oh my god, dude, I
Speaker 1: make it worse. I'm talking about Asian I know.
Speaker 3: Listen the way I just am scared for them to
Speaker 3: add them goddamn terrorists on my she in bitch. Wait,
Speaker 3: let me see what I just wanted to still remain
Speaker 3: two dollars biggest, keep them motherfuckers working.
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