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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it'll blow up curious how your Pro

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a lot of fun, you know, just

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Speaker 4: To just spend a few days with those guys. Man,

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Speaker 4: it's so much fun. And you know, the flag football

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Speaker 4: game is it is what it is, but uh, it's

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Speaker 4: it's just more fun to be around those guys and

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Speaker 1: It does let you, like, I know, hitting is fun

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Speaker 1: and it's part of the gay at all, but like

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Speaker 1: the athleticism. Like sure, I'm a big flag football player,

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Speaker 1: Yeah for the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Like I love the sport.

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Speaker 1: Like it's got to be a little bit of change

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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, you're different, You're thinking a little different.

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Speaker 4: You're like, man, I'm not gonna run through this guy.

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Speaker 4: I gotta you know, juke, I gotta stop. I gotta

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Speaker 4: do something a little different. So that aspects a little different.

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Speaker 4: But man, what a fun game. So many great players,

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, all the guys that we got to play with.

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Speaker 4: Was it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Pretty favorite is one of the big guys. Yeah, out

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Speaker 4: Yeah then they you know, let the offensive lineman run

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Speaker 4: what a what a cool game.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Cole Cometa earlier, and I've just

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Speaker 1: been curious because I grew.

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Speaker 2: Up, I was high school.

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Speaker 1: Me and my buddy were like, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be You'll be the tight end, I'll be the fullback.

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Speaker 2: Let's kill it. By the time the rosters came out,

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Speaker 2: I was the center. He was a guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, damn it so much more.

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Speaker 1: Is there like a fine line between tight end and

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Speaker 1: fine line between tight end and wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a fine line between the two. You know,

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Speaker 4: there's different types of tight ends. There's guys that you know,

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Speaker 4: there's a little fine line. Maybe we're more athletic than

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Speaker 4: Maybe we're a little skinnier whatever it is, and then

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Speaker 4: there's a little fine line between the receiver and tight end.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're a little bit bigger, we can we

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Speaker 4: whatever it is. But a lot of it's a lot

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Speaker 1: Cole admitted that he was a little closer to maybe

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Speaker 1: crossing the line being an offensive lineman when he was younger.

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Speaker 1: Was there were you always like tight end or did

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Speaker 4: I was kind of you know, I was kind of

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Speaker 4: be an offensive lineman, that wasn't you know, part of me.

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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, as part of the tight end position,

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Speaker 4: you got to be able to do it. And uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of glad that it's a hybrid

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Speaker 1: As somebody who obviously got targeted so much, obviously caught

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned record setting for a tight end, what

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Speaker 1: is that I watched the game and it's just like

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Speaker 1: that guy's not open, and yet you're throwing the ball

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both. You know,

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Speaker 4: you have to understand where you're coming from what uh

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Speaker 4: you know what what your job responsibility is on that thing.

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Speaker 4: But a little bit of it is getting open as

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Speaker 4: a as a receiver, and a little bit of it

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Speaker 4: is the quarterback trusting what you're going to do and

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Speaker 4: you guys being on the same page. So you have

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Speaker 4: to build that chemistry that relationship to you know, know

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Speaker 4: what he's going to do, what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I think that's something that's pretty important. And

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously me Jakobe Kyler. We all had a

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Speaker 4: pretty good connection last year, so it's pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: What was it like playing with Jacob because I'm from

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Speaker 1: South Florida, he came down there. It just looked like

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Speaker 1: he absolutely steadied everything, and it's just like, why isn't

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Speaker 4: He's he's unbelievable, man, just the person, he is, the player,

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Speaker 4: he is everything about him. Man, He's he's very unique,

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Speaker 4: very special, and uh, I'm just very honored that I

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Speaker 1: This Super Bowl, you've got two teams probably defensive oriented, right.

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Speaker 1: I think most people look at these teams and say

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Speaker 1: their defense is what really shines. The quarterbacks have been

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Speaker 1: pretty good. What are you looking forward to the most

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Speaker 2: To find the juice in this Super Bowl. I think

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Speaker 2: it's just, you know, it's a defensive super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's exactly what you said. Both teams

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Speaker 4: I think I'm pulling for a big tight end game

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Speaker 4: and a lot of touchdowns out of the tight end.

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Speaker 2: Has there ever been a tight end BMVP of the

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Speaker 3: Not until this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Maybe this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hunter Henry might score five touchdowns. Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 4: It'd be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Brandon Aubrey of the Dallas Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: Tim Howard just an absolute legend of soccer. Before we

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Speaker 1: talk about respect, the football's here. What are you guys

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Speaker 1: doing with Verizon?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're here with Verizon because no one gets you

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Speaker 5: closer to the biggest sporting events on Earth, and that

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Speaker 5: includes super Bowl coming up and then a couple months

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Speaker 5: later at the World Cup.

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Speaker 1: You know what, that actually makes sense to me now

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Speaker 1: because I was just reading one of them, like.

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Speaker 2: Making the bridge from the super Bowl to the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of exciting.

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Speaker 8: No, Tim huge, and you know in soccer, our sport,

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Speaker 8: his former sport, people talk about about the Super Bowl

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Speaker 8: being the biggest sporting event, and then when the World

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Speaker 8: Cup comes, we often liken it to like forty Super

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a good time in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this event. It's it's wild to me.

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Speaker 1: It's my first time I'm here, and it's just crazy

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Speaker 1: that this just for one game, not a series, not

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But Brandon, I was just wondering, You've probably told the

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Speaker 1: story several times over the last year or so, but

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Speaker 1: just your venture from you know, soccer to football to

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Speaker 1: American football and what made that sort of decision for

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Speaker 1: you and how great has it been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wasn't good enough at the professional level

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Speaker 5: to be a professional soccer player, so it was time

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Speaker 5: for me to give it up. I got cut from

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Speaker 5: an MLS team, signed with the USL team, and then

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Speaker 5: at the end of that season that USL team disintegrated.

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Speaker 5: I was looking for another contract and just wasn't enough

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Speaker 3: As they go his his listen my goal, my goal

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Speaker 2: That was the evidence, right, Yeah, it was just to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so it could have went anywhere, and everybody would

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you a question because I like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to mention my nephew, he's like he wants to

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Speaker 1: Curious if you are and I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: No, I love it. I love points. I much prefer

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Speaker 5: not that's definitely not a chip shot. It's not something

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Speaker 5: I'm a Texas guy. I was born in Saint Louis,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious because I'm a little bit of a fitness freak,

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Speaker 1: Last thing for me for you guys, I've been bothered

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Speaker 2: Options, there's so many options out there. You barely touch

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Speaker 1: You know, because I'm handball would have been at least

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Speaker 2: What you what are your options? Well, I just gave

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Speaker 1: No, that's good tim Anything you want to say about

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Speaker 8: Out, well, I think it's important to know that they

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Speaker 8: and that's a massive, massive deal. Getting getting people pitch

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Speaker 3: It's priceless.

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Speaker 1: How crazy is it going to be for you during

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be It's gonna be wild. But like I'm

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Speaker 1: Tim Howard, thank you so much for spending the time

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Speaker 1: with us here, and have a good rest of your

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