Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Joe Leaving. Okay, so, if you're one
Speaker 1: of the many folks out there creating music and you
Speaker 1: want to know if the song you've been working on
Speaker 1: is you know, working, you may want to run it
Speaker 1: by Alo Black's kids, because that's what he does. In
Speaker 1: the latest home edition of the show, he explained that
Speaker 1: when he was recording his new album All Love Everything,
Speaker 1: he'd play the music for his two young children in
Speaker 1: the car on the way to school, and if later
Speaker 1: on he heard them humming it around the house, he
Speaker 1: knew he was onto something. The home edition of Inside
Speaker 1: the Studio is all about letting you inside the creative
Speaker 1: process of musicians during Lockdown, and although Alo told our
Speaker 1: Quarantine correspondent Jordan Runtog that All Love Everything was recorded
Speaker 1: before the pandemic, he also said it's exactly the kind
Speaker 1: of music we need right now. It's it's all about
Speaker 1: love and togetherness. If you want to know about his
Speaker 1: process during the pandemic, one of the main things you
Speaker 1: should know is that although he's still working on songs
Speaker 1: right now during Lockdown, he does it after puzzle and playtime.
Speaker 1: Kids come first. Alo Black also told us about his
Speaker 1: social justice work and why he asked Bob Dylan to
Speaker 1: change the lyrics to one of his most famous songs.
Speaker 1: Here's a fact checking side note. I'd never heard the
Speaker 1: story that Alo told about Gene McDaniels one album, Headless
Speaker 1: Heroes of the Apocalypse getting banned by the nix It administration,
Speaker 1: but for sure I've heard the one about Spiro Agnew,
Speaker 1: Nixon's vice president, calling up Atlantic Records and complaining about
Speaker 1: the lyrics. Anyway, if you enjoyed this episode, be sure
Speaker 1: to check out the I Heart Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts.
Speaker 1: It's called Rivals Music's Greatest Feuds, and it is available
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hello everybody, My name is
Speaker 1: Jordan Runtud, Been enough about me? My guest today is
Speaker 1: a musician and activist who burst onto the scene with
Speaker 1: songs like I Need a Dollar, the Man, and Wake
Speaker 1: Me Up. His collaboration with a VICI because work fuses
Speaker 1: elements of hip hop, soul, folk, and E d M,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't care much for genre labels. Instead, he
Speaker 1: says his music fist into a theme that he calls
Speaker 1: am a I am that stands for affirmation, inspiration, and motivation.
Speaker 1: That's the message behind his new album, All Love Everything,
Speaker 1: his first collection of new songs in seven years. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy to welcome La Black. Thank you. It's so
Speaker 1: great to talk. We met many years ago when I
Speaker 1: was at VH one and you or are you ought
Speaker 1: to know Artists of the month. It is so great
Speaker 1: to talk to you again. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: taking the time today. How are you? Thank you? I'm
Speaker 1: very good. Oh man. Well, it has been seven years
Speaker 1: since your last album, or should I say your last
Speaker 1: non Christmas album? Uh, and that time you've become a father.
Speaker 1: How much is family influenced all of everything? Well? Um,
Speaker 1: family has been the supreme influence on all of everything
Speaker 1: because the album is about family. The first song on
Speaker 1: the album is called family, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: songs are about my wife. There's a song called Nothing
Speaker 1: Left but You. There's a song called Glory Days. There's
Speaker 1: a song called the title track All of Everything, and
Speaker 1: then there is the first single that we released, I Do,
Speaker 1: which was dedicated to our tenure anniversary. Now, your personal
Speaker 1: life isn't something that really tackled much in your music.
Speaker 1: Was that a struggle for you at all to go there.
Speaker 1: You know, I, UM have always tried to be kind
Speaker 1: of a generalist in the way that I write my
Speaker 1: songs and make songs about motivation and inspiration, and I've
Speaker 1: avoided being deeply personal. So this was quite different, and
Speaker 1: I found it liberating in a sense that I got
Speaker 1: to share my relationships and the way that I engage
Speaker 1: my family with my fans, finally kind of humanizing who
Speaker 1: I am in a way that I had done before.
Speaker 1: The video for I Do is so special, as she said,
Speaker 1: it was the tenth anniversary You're reproposing with the help
Speaker 1: of your children. That was so special. How did that
Speaker 1: idea come about? Oh? Wow? Well, you know, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about what I could do for my tenth anniversary,
Speaker 1: and um, I had been writing a song with some
Speaker 1: really talented songwriters who are very good at doing romantic ballots.
Speaker 1: So I figured, why not try making a romantic ballad
Speaker 1: with these talented songwriters, and I think it worked out.
Speaker 1: They helped me put something amazing together. And then I
Speaker 1: was playing the song you know for my kids as
Speaker 1: I was driving them to school pre pandemic, and uh,
Speaker 1: and they sort of let the secret out. The bag,
Speaker 1: but they were like, oh, what's the song about. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a song I made for your mom. And then
Speaker 1: they started singing around the house and my wife would
Speaker 1: ask him, well, what are you singing and they say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the song Daddy made for you. So the song
Speaker 1: was no longer a secret. But what we were able
Speaker 1: to keep secret was the surprise engagement and wedding and
Speaker 1: that was beauty. I mean, you had her her mother
Speaker 1: fly up from Australia and everything. She had no idea.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she had no idea. She's certainly was surprised
Speaker 1: by seeing her mom. My mom was there, her best
Speaker 1: friends from Australia. Her one of her best friends friends
Speaker 1: is a designer named Weave, and she was able to
Speaker 1: create an amazing wedding dress for the occasion. So everything
Speaker 1: was very very secret and private. Even me taking the
Speaker 1: kids out of school to do the surprise engagement was
Speaker 1: completely a secret and surprising. Beautiful. Do you often play
Speaker 1: your songs you're working on to your kids. I play
Speaker 1: a lot of the music that I'm working on to
Speaker 1: my kids. They hear it either on the way to
Speaker 1: school or um just in the car when I'm taking
Speaker 1: them somewhere. They they're lucky they get to hear everything early.
Speaker 1: They give notes like I need a little more reverb. There,
Speaker 1: need a little more, not more reverb. They definitely tell
Speaker 1: me which songs are better than others, and and I
Speaker 1: can recognize it right away when they are either requesting
Speaker 1: it or singing it. I guess that's true. I guess
Speaker 1: kids know a hook better than anyone. I guess they
Speaker 1: really do. They know good song. Tell me about the
Speaker 1: album's title, all of everything. What are the significance of
Speaker 1: those words? All love? Everything is to me painting love
Speaker 1: over everything that we do, from music and my art,
Speaker 1: to family and two friends and even the activism that
Speaker 1: I do, like leaning into life with love. It's just, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, an interesting phrasing, but combining two separate phrases,
Speaker 1: all love, which is how we'd probably say something to
Speaker 1: someone when there's like when someone apologizes, instead of saying
Speaker 1: I forgive you, say 's all love right or um?
Speaker 1: And the either idea is that everything we do should
Speaker 1: come with love. So and love everything from the ecology
Speaker 1: to your family and friends, you know, just love everything
Speaker 1: and building off of that. Your music incorporates so many
Speaker 1: different elements from soul, E d M. Folks, you name it,
Speaker 1: but you've said, you know, I don't really work in
Speaker 1: a genre. I work in a theme, and that theme
Speaker 1: is aim, affirmation, inspiration, motivation. Can you describe that a
Speaker 1: little more to me? Yeah? So in people ask me
Speaker 1: what kind of music I make, It's hard for me
Speaker 1: to pinpoint it because I use all different kinds of
Speaker 1: genres in order to communicate the message of the song.
Speaker 1: I grew up making hip hop music, so I've sampled
Speaker 1: from everything, and then I started learning to make everything.
Speaker 1: One through line, though, is thematic is that I make
Speaker 1: songs that are motivating, that are inspiring, songs that can
Speaker 1: be the soundtracks you living your best your life and
Speaker 1: achieving your dreams. And that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to be the light within the darkness of
Speaker 1: the music industry or the media that you consume on
Speaker 1: a daily, weekly, monthly basis. Probably one of the best
Speaker 1: songs on your new record, illustrate this is My Way,
Speaker 1: which is all about self determination and fighting for your
Speaker 1: goals and dreams. Tell me about that song, Where did
Speaker 1: that come from? For you? My way is certainly about
Speaker 1: fighting for your your goals and your dreams. It's part
Speaker 1: of the aim theme for sure. It's a song that
Speaker 1: makes me think about my time as um developing artists.
Speaker 1: I was always engaging my art as a pastime, as
Speaker 1: a hobby, and never looking at it as this is
Speaker 1: gonna be my career move. I was in business a
Speaker 1: business consultant for quite some time in college as an intern,
Speaker 1: and then when I graduated, spent two years as a
Speaker 1: full time business consultant, and then I got laid off.
Speaker 1: So this was my first real a bout with adversity,
Speaker 1: and it was that that moment I had to decide
Speaker 1: what it was I was going to do with my life.
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I could go back to school, get
Speaker 1: another degree, I could get another job, I could go
Speaker 1: into academia and teach. But music kept choosing me. It
Speaker 1: kept on showing me that the ten thousand hours I
Speaker 1: had put in were valuable, and so I was able
Speaker 1: to use my expertise and my skill and my passion
Speaker 1: as my career. And I hesitate to use any genre language.
Speaker 1: But as you said earlier, you started off making hip
Speaker 1: hop records. What sort of led you over to the
Speaker 1: type of music that you make now? Well, I was
Speaker 1: inspired by singer songwriters, are r and B artists, folk artists,
Speaker 1: soul artists who would touch the heartstrings in a different
Speaker 1: way than what I was able to do with hip hop,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to make music like them. So I
Speaker 1: started listening to more of artists like Stevie Wonder and
Speaker 1: Nina Simone, Marvin Gaye and Aretha Franklin, and more artists
Speaker 1: like Joni Mitchell and James Taylor, Cat Stephen and Elton
Speaker 1: John And these were very inspiring singers, and most of
Speaker 1: them write their own songs, so that was also inspiring.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to tell stories in a way that
Speaker 1: could really affect people and last a lifetime. So many
Speaker 1: of the songs on your new records seemed Taylor made
Speaker 1: for this moment we're in right now of pandemic and protests,
Speaker 1: But I know, I think all of it was completed
Speaker 1: before the fact, long before COVID hit. I'm thinking specifically
Speaker 1: renew Single, Hold On Tight. Did the pandemic alter your
Speaker 1: choice of singles in any way or just or how
Speaker 1: you put together together the record in any way? No,
Speaker 1: the pandemic um ironically is just it's a coincidence. It's
Speaker 1: just that, you know, the music that I ended up
Speaker 1: putting on this project fits with this time where we
Speaker 1: are experiencing a huge social issue, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: my songs can be comfort for people during this time.
Speaker 1: But many of the songs were written within a four
Speaker 1: year period prior to the album. I compiled the songs
Speaker 1: that best fit the theme that I wanted to describe
Speaker 1: or that I wanted to share around love and togetherness,
Speaker 1: and then they were all recorded prior to the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and I think mixing and mastering happened right around when
Speaker 1: the world shut down, so the song selection was already chosen.
Speaker 1: It's just a real amazing coincidence that it's the kind
Speaker 1: of music I think we need right now. Have you
Speaker 1: been writing much music well at home in in lockdown,
Speaker 1: if you've been feeling productive musically, Yeah, I'm still writing
Speaker 1: songs and getting involved in songwriting sessions with other artists
Speaker 1: through virtual conferences, but um, for the most part, trying
Speaker 1: to focus on family because you know, the day is
Speaker 1: is only so long, and I've got two kids and
Speaker 1: my wife who all need attention to and and love,
Speaker 1: So I try to do my sessions later at night,
Speaker 1: after dinner and and time with my kids and time
Speaker 1: with my wife. What do you all like to do together?
Speaker 1: Anything and any any new traditions formed during this period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: after dinner is um, you know, the kids take a
Speaker 1: bath and and then we do family time. So during
Speaker 1: family times a lot of puzzles and games that we play,
Speaker 1: you know, and go fish and then and then my
Speaker 1: wife and I may find after the kids go to bed,
Speaker 1: we may find something on television to watch, or just
Speaker 1: kind of have a debrief of all of the current
Speaker 1: events that are happening, either in our lives or in
Speaker 1: in the world at large. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: earlier this year. You were one of I think forderd
Speaker 1: and fifty artists to sign an open letter to the U. S.
Speaker 1: Congress calling for police reform in the wake of George
Speaker 1: Floyd's murder. One of the major points outlined was putting
Speaker 1: it into a system of qualified immunity, which effectively stops
Speaker 1: police officers from being held accountable for their crimes in
Speaker 1: civil law suits. I wanted to ask you more about
Speaker 1: qualified immunity, why it's harmful, and what people can do
Speaker 1: to put a stop to right So, the movement right
Speaker 1: now that has been growing since the murder of George
Speaker 1: Floyd by the police in Minneapolis is one that has
Speaker 1: gained support from all kinds of allies and co conspirators
Speaker 1: and accomplices. Black people have been screaming that there is
Speaker 1: a problem for decades, if not centuries. It's now becoming
Speaker 1: a much bigger voice with the addition of white allies.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I've identified through the
Speaker 1: help of my friend Brandon Paradise, who is a legal expert,
Speaker 1: a legal scholar at Rutgers University, is that qualified immunity
Speaker 1: is a Supreme Court doctrine, the highest court in the land,
Speaker 1: that blocks any accountability, civil accountability for police officers who
Speaker 1: violate your civil rights. And so when you have a law,
Speaker 1: a rule, a doctrine that is so strong, it is
Speaker 1: ultimately creating and supporting this culture of abuse. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of things that we are trying to change,
Speaker 1: and some people are asking for removing chokeholds and removing militarization.
Speaker 1: But even if an officer still uses a chokehold, it
Speaker 1: may be against the law, but he can never be
Speaker 1: punished for it because he's immune. So until we remove
Speaker 1: the immunity and install accountability, this culture of abuse will continue.
Speaker 1: So many of these elements very state to state. This
Speaker 1: sounds like one of the few top down changes that
Speaker 1: can be made at a federal level. Right qualified immunity, specifically,
Speaker 1: as a federal statute, this is a doctrine coming from
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. It's an interpretation of an actual civil
Speaker 1: rights law which was meant to protect citizens, has been
Speaker 1: perverted by a judge, potentially a racist judge who knew
Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing when he created the judgment,
Speaker 1: and it has become precedent, so all the lower courts
Speaker 1: must follow it for federal cases. On a state level,
Speaker 1: every state has their own measure of immunity for police
Speaker 1: or other state agents, and in California, we're trying to
Speaker 1: overturn that. Unfortunately, the police unions use their money to
Speaker 1: either demean and belittle candidates who are standing up for
Speaker 1: citizens and to support other candidates who are just puppets
Speaker 1: for the police unions. UM. Some states have made this change.
Speaker 1: Colorado has made the change. They have passed a law
Speaker 1: to remove the immunity from police on civil cases. And
Speaker 1: the reason why it's important is because you know, district
Speaker 1: attorneys will never really charge police officers in a criminal case,
Speaker 1: so you won't get any justice on the criminal side. Um,
Speaker 1: we're hoping to at least get justice on the civil side.
Speaker 1: And you've been speaking to so many people, people like
Speaker 1: Harry Belafonte's legend of the civil rights marches in the
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties. What kind of insight did he share
Speaker 1: in at the present moment on making these kinds of
Speaker 1: positive social changes. For Harry Bellefonte, my relationship with him
Speaker 1: has been extremely instructive and very inspiring. What I understand
Speaker 1: from him is that we cannot stop. It's about constant vigilance.
Speaker 1: The darkness in the world will continue to try to
Speaker 1: swallow up the light, and we have to continue to
Speaker 1: be the light and continue to fight for justice and equality.
Speaker 1: And speaking of civil rights marches, he recently performed a
Speaker 1: really beautiful version of Blowing in the Wind, which Bob
Speaker 1: Dylan performed at the March on Washington in there. What
Speaker 1: led you to that song? What would have impact does
Speaker 1: it have on you? Well, Harry Belafonte has you know,
Speaker 1: a part in that as well. So he's recorded version
Speaker 1: of Blowing in the Wind, He's recorded the instrumental to it. Um,
Speaker 1: he has not recorded his vocal yet, and this was
Speaker 1: decades ago that he was supposed to do it. He
Speaker 1: never did it. So his daughter, who's a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Gina Belafonte, contact of me and said, Dad would like
Speaker 1: for you to sing his version of Blowing in the
Speaker 1: Wind that he never got around to. And I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to do that, but can we
Speaker 1: contact Bob Dylan and ask for a lyric change. The
Speaker 1: answer is not blowing in the wind. If we continue
Speaker 1: to say that, then that's just like saying, oh, racism exists.
Speaker 1: The answer is somewhere out there, will never find it. No,
Speaker 1: the answer is right here within. So I asked for
Speaker 1: the lyric change, and he obliged, probably the first time
Speaker 1: he ever obliged the lyric change. And I'll record that soon.
Speaker 1: So the answer, my friend is not blowing in the wind.
Speaker 1: The answer, my friend is right here within. Wow, I
Speaker 1: did not realize any of that. I didn't realize that, Harry.
Speaker 1: I wonder why he didn't get around the recording it.
Speaker 1: That's so fascinating. Yeah, I don't know why either, but
Speaker 1: I know that, Um, it's something that inspired Sam Cook.
Speaker 1: That song inspired Sam Cook to write change is going
Speaker 1: to come, and it's a really important song. I just
Speaker 1: believe that we need to be at this point more
Speaker 1: specific and not so general, like when Marvin Gay said,
Speaker 1: what's going on? You know you can ask that question.
Speaker 1: But one of my favorite soul artists Eugene McDaniels, he
Speaker 1: wrote an album in one called Headless Heroes Are the Apocalypse,
Speaker 1: which was banned by the Nixon administration, which is why
Speaker 1: you don't really know. Nobody knows who this guy is,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't asking what's going on. His album literally
Speaker 1: talked about police brutality, him being beaten by police in
Speaker 1: a supermarket. His album talked about genocide and colonialism, with
Speaker 1: a song called the Parasite talking about the Native Americans,
Speaker 1: the plight of the Native Americans. So, you know, I
Speaker 1: tried to find ways with my music and the music
Speaker 1: that I listened to and that I want to share,
Speaker 1: to be specific at this point. Some symbolism is important.
Speaker 1: We all need it. It helps to inspire us. But
Speaker 1: more than symbolism, we need action. If you're out in
Speaker 1: the streets protesting, then you need to convert that protest
Speaker 1: to policy and polls you did in your own life.
Speaker 1: You're You're working on the ground for so many causes.
Speaker 1: You're also involved with a really wonderful program called Music Units,
Speaker 1: which is a nonprofit program that provides musical education to
Speaker 1: UM schools in New York, l A, Chicago, and I
Speaker 1: think other places as well. You've been a role model
Speaker 1: to so many who have been some of your role models,
Speaker 1: either musically or otherwise through about your life. Musically, I'd
Speaker 1: say Bill Withers rest in peace. You know. I had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet him and become a friend. His
Speaker 1: vocal style and music, songwriting, all of that was really
Speaker 1: inspiring to me UM and instructive. It gave me a
Speaker 1: sense of how to use my voice. I really do
Speaker 1: appreciate Quincy Jones and all of the music and artist
Speaker 1: lives that he's touched has been quite inspiring to me.
Speaker 1: Has been part of my development for sure. Listening to
Speaker 1: Sinatra and all the crooners over time. I know that
Speaker 1: that Quincy worked with Sinatra. UM, listening to Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: as a youngster, and listening to some of the R
Speaker 1: and B music that Quincy was instrumental in making in
Speaker 1: the in the eighties and nineties. For me, another inspiration
Speaker 1: would be, of course, the three Ms Mandela Mahatma Gandhi
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King. These three individuals are my m icons
Speaker 1: of civil rights and activism. A few months back in
Speaker 1: the spring, you were part of a twenty four hour
Speaker 1: live stream honoring the life of of vich your collaborator
Speaker 1: that you worked with on on Wake Me Up. I
Speaker 1: was wondering, is there anything that you learned from him
Speaker 1: that that you take with you when you're making music. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Vici was an amazing musician. He had a huge dedication
Speaker 1: to craft. And what I recognized in what he did
Speaker 1: was that he didn't rely on the lyricists or the
Speaker 1: vocalist to make the song catchy. It's icing on the
Speaker 1: cake for him. What he was doing was making instrumental
Speaker 1: music that was catchy in and of itself. And when
Speaker 1: you add on a great lyric and a great vocal melody,
Speaker 1: then you have way more elements that make the song
Speaker 1: even better. But if you listen to a song like
Speaker 1: Wake Me Up, there was a musical melody that you
Speaker 1: can sing that you know exists and you it's it's
Speaker 1: part of the attractiveness of the song. And then there
Speaker 1: is the lyric, which stands alone, and then there's the
Speaker 1: vocal melody, which stands alone. And when you combine all
Speaker 1: of these elements, it really makes for great, great timeless music.
Speaker 1: I loved your your track that you did on his
Speaker 1: posthumous album tim S O S. Yeah, s OS was
Speaker 1: a tough song to sing. I had received it because
Speaker 1: the label and the family had informed me that his
Speaker 1: notes mentioned he wanted me to sing s OS and
Speaker 1: it was unfortunate that I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: work on that particular song with him. I wonder if
Speaker 1: if just the idea of even writing a lyric s
Speaker 1: O S would have made me ask some questions, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know it's there's there's no way to tell
Speaker 1: at this point. The last few months have been hard
Speaker 1: on all of us for so many different reasons. Has
Speaker 1: there been a favorite distraction for you when when you
Speaker 1: just need to unplug and reset for a moment, if
Speaker 1: it's going for walk, meditation, watching something on Netflix, is
Speaker 1: what's your favorite way to sort of just recharge? Favorite
Speaker 1: way to recharge is just hanging out with the kids.
Speaker 1: They definitely are a great way to avoid whatever is
Speaker 1: going on in the real world, and they don't have
Speaker 1: a care about any of the stuff that's happening. Of course,
Speaker 1: they are aware that there's a pandemic. They know we
Speaker 1: have to wear masks. But when they're in play, they're
Speaker 1: completely present, and so we play together and that takes
Speaker 1: me into their world, so I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about my world. Something very zen about play. My My
Speaker 1: girlfriend has been taking clown classes, which I, on the
Speaker 1: surface I thought sounded funny, but she's sort of explaining
Speaker 1: to me how they're all these sort of like you know,
Speaker 1: zen the art of clowning. You know, it makes you
Speaker 1: present in that exact moment. I feel the same about
Speaker 1: play too, I suppose. Yeah. I think music does that
Speaker 1: for me. Songwriting sessions. You know, I dive into a
Speaker 1: songwriting session and I forget about everything else because I'm
Speaker 1: just creating a whole new world through the story that
Speaker 1: is in the song. Has there been a silver lining
Speaker 1: of this this time for you right now? Well, I
Speaker 1: think the silver lining is that from a personal and
Speaker 1: a social standpoint, we're all learning how connected we are.
Speaker 1: It used to be, uh, don't touch me, you'll give
Speaker 1: me cooties. Now it's if you're breathing next to me.
Speaker 1: I could get cooties, and it just shows that we
Speaker 1: are quite connected as a as a human organism, we're
Speaker 1: connected with the ecology. I think in the first months
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, you saw waterways clearing up, skies clearing
Speaker 1: up across the world that we're usually quite polluted. I
Speaker 1: think humanity is recognizing something very important here and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that my album can be part of that recognition
Speaker 1: connection togetherness. I hope we can carry that through when
Speaker 1: when this is all over. And my my last question
Speaker 1: I've been asking everyone, this is my my last question.
Speaker 1: If you could snap your fingers and have everything go
Speaker 1: back to to normal, whatever your definition of normal is.
Speaker 1: Pandemics over, virus is gone, what would be the first
Speaker 1: thing that you would do? If I it's not my fingers,
Speaker 1: have everything go back to normal, first thing I would
Speaker 1: do was get on a plane to Australia with my family.
Speaker 1: My wife were as raised in Australia and Sydney, and
Speaker 1: I would go and visit a family that we haven't
Speaker 1: seen for so long. As a beautiful lanceller, Alla Black,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. Today's such a pleasure.
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