WEBVTT - RHONJ Reunion: Did Melissa just save her job? 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.480 Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.440 the King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:13.080 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.200 years a production experience. Once a week from Reality with 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.680 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:25.079 entertainment industry recap our favorite reality shows. Every visit unforgettable 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:31.000 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.040 Rain drives Yes. On today's episode of Reality with the King, Honey, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.800 we are talking about the most talked about reunion. No, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.120 not fat the pump rules, honey, although we could get 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.800 into that, but no, let's also get into the Real 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:51.199 Housewives of New Jersey Part two reunion or should I 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.280 call it Teresa Versus Everybody? Yes, So I could not 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.440 do this episode alone. I am joined by Gibson John 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.360 who is the hoss Honey that we should talk podcast. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:04.760 Give it up for Gibson. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.720 This is I'm so happy to be here. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.280 I mean, you're you're part of the creation of this show, so. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.000 I feel I feel honored that you want to have 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.440 me on Nah. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.520 Thank you gifts and no, we follow each other on Twitter. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.120 I enjoy all of your interviews with the reality stars, 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.160 especially the housewives. You were also part of Bravo Con. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:25.280 You moderated a. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.720 Panel too, right, I did two in the first Bravo 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.160 cons and I did one with Melissa, and then there 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.440 was some other there was Giselle and Ashley and Emily Simpson, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.000 and then the next day I did one with Dolores 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:36.600 and Teresa. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.080 So I've I've you know, I've been in the belly 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:39.559 of the beast. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.360 Oh well, give us some scoop, honey. How was her experience. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.640 I've had nothing but good experiences with the Jersey ladies, because, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.720 you know, living in New York, they and you know, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.760 you go to events here and there, there's Bravo things whatever. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.520 They're popping out everywhere. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.120 When when you're when you're in New York, and so 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.400 when you're sort of in this sort of insular world 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.800 of you know, people who interview them, people who interact 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.560 with them, like they know how to play the game, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.760 they know who they need to be friendly with and 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.360 converse with. And you know, I talked to some of 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.720 them every single season. So I've had nothing about good experiences. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.600 I remember for the Teresa and Dolores one, it was 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.920 on the third day of Bravo Con and it was 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.760 at ten thirty in the morning. It's the first event 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.040 of the day and it's been like a long weekend. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.880 It's the first one and you know, they they got 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.000 stuck in traffic on the way from their hotel after 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.560 doing glam so it was going to start a little late, 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.160 but Teresa, But Teresa and Dolores came in so apologetic. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.720 It was out of their control. There was tech traffic, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.560 but they were like, all right, let's go. When they 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:39.880 came to the door of they were on stage in 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.960 two minutes. Part of the conceit of the event was 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.640 to be making pasta sauce. It was like it was 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.400 like it was like the Sunday Sauce with Dolores and Teresa. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.280 As I interviewed them, they were like cooking. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.520 On a hot plate as I was interviewing them, and 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.160 they hadn't the producers of the panel didn't turn the 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:02.040 hot plate on, so we were cooking like tomato sauce 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.519 on a cold hot plate for thirty minutes. But they 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.639 were game. They were just like they're they're pros. You know, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.560 they can they can roll with the punches and and 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.519 I've always had good experiences with them, I really have. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:15.919 I love that now those are my girls. I love 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.480 his Jersey girls. And I also loved watching part two 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:25.440 reunion because let's just get started with the good shit, right, Gibson. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.760 It was a blove ath. I mean, it started off with, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.320 of course, Teresa versus Melissa. But what was so interesting 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.440 about their beef at the top of the reunion was 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:44.800 Jacqueline Larita's text that she sent to Jackie Golschneider last year. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.240 And this is the gag. Jackie was not even on 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:54.760 the stage, okay, and Melissa and I think Margaret even 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.880 had the text message, but Melissa read the text message. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:05.040 I'm like, wait, if Jacqueline text Jackie, Jackie, you shady bitch, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.240 I love it. So Jackie clearly sent the text message 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.200 screenshot it sent it to Melissa, and I believe Margaret 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:18.920 and Melissa read it. And look, that was really interesting 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:24.640 and also bad when you think about the reconciliation, Gibson, 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:30.800 that Jacqueline and Teresa had this year. Okay, how do 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:36.440 you reconcile feeling like this woman is trash? Had a 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.640 face lift, a no job, et cetera, et cetera, Like 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.920 really read her for filth last year to only turn 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:48.279 around this year, have a ponderosa literally and met for 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.880 a couple of hours in Vegas. So what did you 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.960 think about all of that? Is Jacqueline being two face? 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.480 You think, I. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.480 Think it's just everybody looking the other way for the 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.040 sake of playing the game. Think that I kind of think, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.120 you know, I think, like you said at the top 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.200 of this, it's kind of like Teresa versus everybody. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:07.640 Like it's kind of the feeling. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.800 You know, she obviously has some of her allies, but 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.840 I think Teresa like knows that she has to look 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.320 past some of this stuff and to to have people on. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.320 Her side, you know what I mean. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.120 And I think I mean, her and Jacqueline have the 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.200 longest history, and it's hard to put myself in their 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.240 in their shoes, in their mindset, but I think when 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.479 you're in their positions, it's like you have to let 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.080 things be water under the bridge. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.800 You have to let bygones be bygones to move forward. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.080 And you know, I don't know what Teresa's endgame is 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.039 with with this, like new newfound friendship and and sort 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.080 of association with Jacqueline is. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:42.599 But if I was. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.799 If I were Jaqueline, I'd be pissed that that text 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.479 was read and it's not. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:47.279 It's not a good look. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.000 It really is not really and I don't know what 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.760 her end game is either, honestly. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.600 No listen, and I love Jacqueline. Jacqueline's my friend. Jacqueline 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.760 was also on the podcast. When I saw the text 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.080 on the full screen, honey, because Melissa said to the 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.880 producers so they could make sure to post that shit. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.520 So when I saw and I'm reading it with my 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:12.960 twenty twenty vision, I am gagging because, look, Jacqueline obviously 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.840 said it right. You can't say it was doctor. You 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:20.039 can't say, you know, artificial intelligence wrote this for me. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.240 And we'll get into all of that in terms of 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.960 people being yeah, well, we'll get into later about all 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.120 the Housewives or Andy Cohen being hacked. It's like, wait, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:35.160 what's happening here? But Jacqueline feeling that way at the time. Look, 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.800 they weren't friends, and Jacqueline, obviously, according to her, she said, 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.920 I clearly I'm not bitter, poking fun of the fact 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:47.000 that she sounds bitter, right, So obviously it was a 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.480 chess move on Melissa's part to show that here you 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:56.080 are befriending a woman at a three hour ponder rosa 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.040 who literally three hundred and sixty five days ago, we 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.679 felt this way about you, and all of a sudden 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.680 you're believing her when she says that Joe and Melissa 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.360 allegedly called the FEDS on them or were friends what 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.480 people call the Feds on them? Do you think Melissa 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.840 and Joe had anything to do with the FEDS being 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:21.880 called on Joe? 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:23.440 No, I do not. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.520 I think that the blame game there, I think is 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.720 there's one person to blame and it's Joe Jude, and 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.680 I just don't. I just think it's like it's kind 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.880 of the who, like the whole question about who turned 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.080 her in or what have you. I have the same 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.880 feeling about that versus I mean, as I do, you know, 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.520 talking about how Melissa got on the show, I'm kind 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.520 of just tired of talking about it. And like the 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.560 story just constantly is like evolving, and it's like this 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.360 happened a decade ago, Like we just no wonder why 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.040 they can't move forward, you know what I mean that 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.080 it's we're looking back and then we're also changed in 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.240 the story A lot, and it's like, no, I don't 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.320 believe Joe and Melissa are involved at all. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.200 You know, And I mean for years she was saying 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.040 as Caroline Manzo. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:07.600 So I'm just. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:09.680 I don't know. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.080 And I think that, honestly, Melissa using that text was 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.160 a really savvy chess move and I think that like 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:15.640 it also makes her. 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.400 I think I think you can read it as like her, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.680 you know, going being. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.800 A low blow by reading it out, but like, honestly, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.920 it makes her look good in my opinion, because she's 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.600 never said that that stuff that mean about Teresa. She's 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.000 never said stuff that mean. And the stuff that Jaquan 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.880 was saying in that text brutal. I'm sorry, that was 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:35.920 a savage text. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.040 It really now Listen, listen, listen, because I know a 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.440 lot of people think I'm a Melissa gorga hater, which 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:47.000 by the way, I'm not. I will admit that was 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:52.520 a fucking house spots and playbook chess move. And you 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.760 have to give props where props is due. It was good. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.920 I listen, I was gagging Teresa was she was? 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:01.679 She was y. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.160 You know, it wasn't to hear that from a woman 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.200 who you were friends with for so many years. And look, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.640 Teresa's not stupid. She knows Jacqueline felt that way at 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.720 one point in time, of course, but I think this 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.480 was the timeline of damn bitch, you said this last 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:22.000 year and I just had a ponderosa with you. But 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:26.160 I will also give Teresa props. She gaged, but she 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:30.120 also did not flip it and say, well, f you, Jacqueline. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.920 I think she knew, like, look, you thought that way 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.720 before we had a chance to reconcile. So I'm not 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.360 gonna be mad at you for things you said about 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.800 me when we were in a bad place. But yeah, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:48.079 but overall, it was a great f you from Melissa 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.840 to Teresa. Yeah, and I. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.000 Think that's honestly one of Teresa's one of the qualities 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.240 that works best for her on the show is like 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.000 she there's something she can never look past, as we 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.000 know that they being brought up. But there are also 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.840 sometimes when she is just like I'm impressed by her 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.880 ability to just like look past something like that, you 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.320 know what I mean, Like somebody's reading you an essay 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.600 from somebody who recently became friends with again saying the 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.400 meanest things anybody could say, and you're like, I know 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:16.920 she felt that. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.959 You know, it's like to look past that. I would. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.880 She's a bigger person than I am. I guess like 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.720 I would not be able to look past that. So 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.240 I'm impressed by her ability to do that. 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.040 Sometimes, yes, add great, now she looked past it. Now 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:32.200 we can't look past the fact that Andy Cohen, the 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:36.360 host and executive producer of the Real Housewives franchise, is 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.640 being called out by the fans, the tree thuggers, the 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.920 Jennifer Aiden fans, and all of Brava in terms of 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:51.640 the fandom for these aren't their words, not my because 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.640 as a host upper reunion, I'll tell you what it 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.800 feels like, the host of re union show where everyone 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.360 is talking of each other. But first people were saying 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.640 that Andy was yelling at the women and he was 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.080 over them, and they felt he was very mean to 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.920 Jennifer Aiden. They felt he was very dismissive to Teresa. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.800 When you were watching it, what were you thinking, did 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.240 you think Andy was being mean? 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.840 No? I didn't. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.360 I think it's I think he is probably the easiest 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.800 person to criticize because he has it's an impossible task 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.720 to host that reunion and leave with everybody happy and 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.360 all of youers happy. If he had been yelling at 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.959 Melissa or Margaret like that, the fans of Teresa and 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.400 Jennifer would have no problem with it. I'm sorry, like 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.200 they're only they're only. They only have a problem with 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.560 it because he's yelling at their favorite housewives. And it's just, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.040 you know, I I don't know what it's like to 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.280 host a reunion, but I could imagine how hard it is, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.959 and I would probably lose my shit sometimes too, And 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.800 I think that it just comes with the territory, you 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.640 know what I mean. And like, I'm not, I'm just not. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.360 I'm not in the business of criticizing what Andy's doing 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.200 on that show, because ultimately it kind of has to 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.800 be a wash, I think, because and if the women 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.440 had a problem with it, you know, maybe they would. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.599 I don't actually maybe they wouldn't speak up, but you know, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:09.680 he's their boss. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.200 But you know I didn't. I did not. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.199 I was not watching that and thinking, wow, he's overstepping, 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.520 like you know what I mean. There have been there 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.640 have been bigger moments in him yelling anyway, So I'm 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.760 not sure why there's so much outrage over it, right 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.600 now what do you think. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.160 Yeah, no, there's a lot of outrage. So look, I'll 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.600 speak as someone who is an executive producer of the shows, 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.200 and I also host a few of the shows I 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.600 created and executive produced. So let me tell the world this. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.600 This is what it's like to host a reunion show 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.680 that's very intense with a type acast who sometimes hate 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.120 each other and they're going for blood a lot of times. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:53.440 What you may not see is these ladies do talk 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.240 over each other, yeah, and it's hard to calm them down. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.680 So I host a reunion of a show called Bill 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:05.960 Collect on the Oprah Winfroy Network. These are six very strong, 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:13.400 opinionated women. One incident happened where two of my cast 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.320 members they just would not shut up. They were screaming 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:23.680 at each other. Familiar right exactly, And I'm relatively like, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.600 you know, a good person who's able to like calm 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:31.000 a situation, Gibson. In this case, they would not stop talking. 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:37.320 So listen, because I'm a little bit more conscious of like, uh, 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.439 this may look bad if I do. Yeah, answer, I 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.280 purposely don't, although I want to. It got so bad, 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:49.679 Gibson I had to leave my host seat. Approach the 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:54.520 cast member put my hands on her shoulders and say, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.160 I'm begging you. I'm looking at you in your eye. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.800 Can you please respect me and stop? And she's like this, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.760 she's dodging me, like like I'm literally in her face, 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:15.360 like I'm begging you. Can you stop? Believe? And she 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.440 said fine, I sit back now, and they started doing 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.080 it again. So look, so I want people to know this, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.760 whether or not you thought he yelled, whether or not 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.920 you thought it was appropriate, unless you know what it's 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.479 like to sit in a room where two strong females 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.240 are yelling at each other and you're there for twelve hours. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.800 It's very difficult. It is. And I will give Andy 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.320 his props in terms of there isn't a right or 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.320 wrong answer in terms of how to calm a situation down. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.400 You just you're there trying to get through the day, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.600 and it's a very hard job to do. It really 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:54.400 is very hard. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.760 And there was that moment in part two where he 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:02.040 starts like yelling the question he's asking and just to 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.760 just to be heard, and Rachel Fudo is literally like 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.800 thank you Jesus, like thank you for Gelly, because I 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.760 literally nobody can hear anybody talk, so you know, I 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:12.800 they I don't. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.200 Think they have a problem with that. I really don't. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:15.960 So I don't know why everybody else needs to have. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:16.440 A problem with that. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.960 And that's a good that's a good point you made. Listen. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.080 I don't think the women have a problem with it 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.960 at all, because I and this is other thing, because 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.800 a lot of people are like Andy should be fired, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:30.040 he should be replaced. Let me tell y'all something. The 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.280 reason why number one is not gonna happen, girls and 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.520 guys and they it's not gonna happen. Number two. The 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.800 reason why he's good at hosting the reunions is because 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.520 he has a relationship totally with the ladies. And and 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.240 I will say this again as somebody who holds reunions. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.840 Not everybody's capable of getting the women to be vulnerable 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:58.760 when they need to be, and not everyone's capable of 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.600 calling the women out in a respectful way. And they 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.920 answer the question because you know more than what they're leading, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.800 what they're trying to say, right. And number three, there's 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.680 a respect level that these women have when it comes 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.520 to him. And although it may look disrespectful that they're yelling, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:23.400 they're not disrespecting him. It's not even in their minds 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.560 that they're disrespecting him. When they're not, like, stop yelling 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:31.640 over each other. They are just It's sort of like 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.680 being at brunch with your friends and you have too 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.520 many mimosas and two your best friends are yelling and 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.920 it's your birthday brunch. You're like, bitch, can you shut up? 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.200 It's my birthday. They don't. They're not disrespecting you. It's 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.360 a family affair. And I think we have to understand 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:50.160 Andy isn't just this journalist who's hosting the show and 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.760 then he goes about his life in the Hamptons. He's 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.400 integrated in the show. It's a family affair. He had 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.400 a baby shower and had all these women there, a host, 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.160 going to be a guest. But I think we have 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.840 to look at things from that standpoint. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.479 I mean, I just read his book and it's like 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.920 you you realize where he just takes you through every 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.320 day it was life for a year, and like you 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.000 realize how much he's corresponding with these women day in 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.160 day out there texting all the time. They're always corresponding, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.679 And I mean, taking a silly moment from the reunion 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.119 when they were talking about Margaret and like giving a 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.399 blowjob Joe in the car or something like that, and 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.960 they were talking about how, you know, they would first 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.440 start hooking up in the car and it was kind 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:29.880 of the elephant the room, and Andy called it out. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.040 He was like, well, Margaret, like you guys were married 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.720 when you first got together, right, and like and he 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.560 not already can get away with thinking something like that 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.680 to Margaret, but she took but she took it because 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.600 she Again, there is that trust, that relationship of like, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.480 he's not pointing this out to be shady, he's pointing 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.359 it out to like, you know, clarify the situation and 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.760 try and try to get it deeper in. So I agree, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.360 I think there's a level of respect, there's a level 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.160 of trust. And if he has to lose his shit 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.520 a couple of times of reunion taping again for ten 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.800 or twelve hours, they get it and they know it 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:58.920 just kind of part of the gig. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.760 Yeah, And like you said earlier, the women don't care, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.000 but one moment apparently cares a little much. So one 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:14.000 of Jennifer Aiden tweeters that follows her tweeted that Andy 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.639 was rude to Jennifer. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.160 Oh, I did see this, yes, and. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.080 Intimated something along the lines of, Jennifer, Andy is always 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.680 rude to you all the time. Jennifer responded and said, 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.080 not all the time, just most of the time. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.000 Now, that was ballsy to tweet that. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.800 That was ballsy, Gibson. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.080 What are we taking from that? 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.240 And there's a lot to take from that, I mean, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:46.320 I mean, to me, obviously, it indicates that Jennifer is 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.280 in line with what the fans are saying about, or 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.320 what her fans and Teresa fans are saying about how 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.399 Andy's behaving at the reunion. I guess, but I'm trying 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.639 to I'm trying to parse through whether, like whether she 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.280 felt that way before she saw the fan reaction, or 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.840 if the fan reaction informed how she felt about it. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.080 Oh no, so I can answer that. Okay, this isn't 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.679 the first time she said this, got it? 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:07.119 Okay? 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:07.320 Well? 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.159 Then, so two years ago she was on Watch What 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.040 Happens Live and one of the fans tweeted, he doesn't 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.320 like you, and she kind of agreed to it, and 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.840 I believe, and rain drops tell me if I'm wrong. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.639 I believe. On another Watch What Happens Live? She also 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.280 intimated the same thing to his face, like I'm something like, 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.720 I know I'm not one of your favorites. Something she 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:35.280 doesn't feel like he either likes her. But based on 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.480 the reunion, because I'll tell you my opinion, Yeah, because 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.679 I'm going to be very honest with you again about 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.560 being a creator and executive when you're creating shows that 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.199 deals with these women or men in some cases that 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:52.040 have high personalities. When you watch his interaction with Jennifer, 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:58.240 especially this reunion, did you see anything that made you think, like, hmm, 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.680 not that he doesn't like you, but that he definitely 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:09.000 isn't he a fan of yours like he is to 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.239 Melissa or Esa. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.399 I think that he's really easily frustrated by her because 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:14.840 I think you know what I mean. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.400 That's a good answer Gifts to continue. 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.439 Yeah, I just I think that Jennifer Aden is an 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:20.280 amazing housewife. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:21.840 She's really good at her job. 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.560 Yeah, but I almost she's kind of to me like 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.040 a a housewife like two point oh or three point zero, 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.280 where like she she doesn't she acts differently than a 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.320 lot of the ogs. I think it's kind of like 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:39.080 her behavior is like she's always on one hundred. It's 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.480 like kind of like housewives on steroids. Sometimes it's like 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:46.160 a lot all the time, And you know, I think 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.280 sometimes that's amazing. I think sometimes I would like Jennifer 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.199 to tone it down a little bit. Sometimes I would 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.520 like to see like more levels of energy from her. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:21:00.480 And I think, you know, I think that that's when 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.199 somebody is like that. And I'm trying to think of 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.359