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If you ask 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: your kids and you're not trying to make them tell you, oh, 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I love wearing it. You see all the blue checks 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: out there saying, well, my four year old loves the mask. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: All these things. Well, Las Vegas rescinded its mask mandate. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Means you can go out into the casinos, restaurants, hotels. 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: They finally ended it. I think it had been an 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: effect since July of last year, if I'm not mistaken, 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: because they flipped the mask mandate on right as I 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: arrived in Las Vegas last year, if I remember correctly. 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: But I want you to listen to this Las Vegas 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: Elementary School as the teacher comes out and says you 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: kids no longer have to wear masks. Listen to the celebration. 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: You can see the video at Clay Travis on Twitter. 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: You can see it at Clay and Buck dot com. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Listen to this anymore. It's better with the visual just 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, it's still, but joyful children is I 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of you out there smiling right now, 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: but also angry like me, Buck, like you, because there 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: is so much talk about the right and wrong side 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: of history. I sometimes think we spend almost all of 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: our time on social media on issues talking about right 41 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: and wrong side of history. Make no mistake, every single 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: person out there who argued, particularly that kids needed to 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: be in mask for the last two years is on 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the wrong side of history. They will look like imbeciles 45 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: in the decades ahead for the choices that they made 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and what they did to kids. And when you hear that, 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Jen Saki was saying, yes two months ago, Oh, I 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: don't my kid doesn't mind being in a mask? Is fine, 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Kids don't mind being masked. We're human beings who wants 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: to breathe through a soggy, damp cloth on their face 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: all day. This was the most obvious lie imaginable. But 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: the Blue Checks and the Democrats and the Fauciites, they 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: all play. They acted like kids like wearing masks. I mean, yeah, 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: if you tell a kid wear your mask or you're 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna die, they'll probably wear it pretty handily. But it 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: was child abuse. They were abusing children, amen. And just 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: because kids are willing to do it when they're told 58 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: by adults. That's if you've forgotten what kids have to do, right, 59 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: They have to do what adults tell them to do. 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: I just loved hearing that reaction as Las Vegas eliminated 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: masks in schools shouldn't be a hard question to answer. 62 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: How many days a week do you wake up in 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: agonizing pain? Well, this is the solution. 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Great 79 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: to have you back, sir, Great to be with you 80 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: so you've got some updates for us, as I understand, 81 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: on the little something called natural immunity, which, despite what 82 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the CDC has led a lot of people to believe, 83 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: is a real thing that really matters. Well, the test 84 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: of time is caught up with the deniers. And we 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: did this giant study out of Johns Hopkins. My research 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: team invited people in, we tested their blood and what 87 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: we found is that if you had COVID in the past, 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: ninety nine point three percent of those people had circulating antibodies, 89 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and those antibodies were present almost two years after infection. 90 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: So the debate is over. Now it's time to just 91 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: recognize are we really following the science or are we 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: following politics? Because I hear about high level meetings in 93 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: the government among public health officials and the basically political meetings. 94 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: Should we agree to this or not? And it's like, 95 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: how about followed the data? So what's going to happen now, 96 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry. Are we just going to go like all 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: the people who were saying vaccine mandates mask mandates as 98 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: they're all just disappear, or are people just going to 99 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: pretend that never happened. I just don't know like where 100 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: we go from here? Right? Like I'm in La Bucks 101 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: in New York City. There are places that are saying, hey, 102 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: we have to see your vax card. Is it just 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: going to disappear? And then people are gonna be like, yeah, 104 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: well that as if it never happened, like in your mind, 105 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: where does it go from here? Well? People are angry. 106 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: They're not willing to just say, you know what, you 107 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: really screwed up society for two years. We're just going 108 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: to forgive you and move on. People want honesty, they 109 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: want some accountability. This was the biggest public health intervention 110 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: in human history. You had a Johns Hopton study come 111 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: out two weeks ago evaluating the effect of that giant intervention, 112 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: and basically the Fox in Wall Street Journal were the 113 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: only places that covered It's amazing people were seeing through it. 114 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: Doctor McCarry, what are we going to be able to 115 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: get a sense? Do you think it is possible for 116 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: us to get a sense of what the actual exposure 117 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: to the American people of this virus was. I mean, 118 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I remember in the early days there was zerology testing 119 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: being done to get a sense of just antibody levels 120 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: in the general population and in New York City alone 121 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: in June of twenty twenty, If I recall correctly, twenty 122 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: percent in June of twenty twenty of the city had 123 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: already had you had had COVID at that point in time, 124 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Do we have any way and do you think we'll 125 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: be able to get a sense as to how many 126 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: people in this country have actually had COVID at this point, 127 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: because it strikes me as a very important part of 128 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the data to see whether any of this mitigation stuff, 129 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: any of the lockdown strategies, had really any effect at all. Yeah, well, 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you're you're right. It was twenty percent just a couple 131 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: months into the pandemic of people in New York, and 132 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: then it was one in two Americans by the end 133 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: of the year, according to a Columbia University study out 134 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: of after year one. So and the people who are unvaccinated, 135 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: most of them had natural immunity. You know what people 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: don't realize is almost ninety percent of those truckers in 137 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Canada are vaccinated. The ones that don't, I can almost 138 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: guarantee you they've got natural immunity. So that's the reality 139 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: people are, you know, they want to move on. They 140 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: know that the realities of the data. Well, what do 141 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: you have any sense of what do you think is 142 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the percentage of the American people? Does anyone know or 143 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: can anyone do a study? I mean, do you think 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: eighty percent of the countries seventy percent of the country 145 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: has been infected? If do we have any any idea? 146 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: We don't. I think it's ninety to ninety five percent 147 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: have either vaccinated or natural immunity. Remember when Omicron was 148 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: ripping through the population, we were documenting half a million 149 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: to three quarters of a million cases a day, and 150 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: we're only capturing one in three to one in five cases, 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: so we were adding almost one percent of our population, 152 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: or half of one percent per day. In that group 153 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that has natural immunity, there's very few people left. And 154 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: when you talk about kids, and you know this rush 155 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: to get every six month year old vaccinated wherever, they've 156 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: all been exposed virtually, and it changes the calculus. They 157 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: won't break down these studies that they put out by 158 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: those who had the infection of the past. And that's 159 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: why if you remember Denmark had this study, nobody could 160 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: explain that the unvaccinated had lower rates of transmission. Well, 161 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: that's because they had more natural immunity Doctor McCarry, what's 162 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: going to happen in your mind with schools, What should happen? 163 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: What will happen? Obviously, we just played a clip of 164 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: Las Vegas school teacher announcing the kids don't have to 165 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: wear masks anymore. There has been discussions in some states 166 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: have already said they're going to mandate it, like California, 167 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: that kids have to all get the COVID vaccine. What 168 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: do you think will happen, What should happen as it 169 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: pertains to kids and COVID shots and masking going forward. Well, 170 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: I think most of the country is just saying we're done. Look, 171 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: we made tremendous sacrifices. We're not going to be playing 172 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: these games about if you get vaccinated then you can 173 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: stay in school like they did with masks. They see 174 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: through the phoniness of a lot of this stuff. They 175 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: know that population community is high, and they know that 176 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: healthy kids are virtually resilient to this severe illness. So 177 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: I think people are just going to reject it all, 178 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: except in the pockets of the country where you've got 179 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: people like Sonia Sotomayor, who truly believed that one hundred 180 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: thousand kids were in the hospital, and those politicians are 181 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: going to try to cater to those people. Speaking of 182 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: doctor Marty McCarry, author of The Price We Pay and 183 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: professor at John's Hoppers University Medical Center, Doctor McCarry, what 184 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: is the what is your assessment right now when when 185 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: someone says to you mr NA technology in the fight 186 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: against COVID, what do you want to say to them? 187 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just kind of wonder here 188 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: at is, what is the data really shown us in 189 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: terms of is it protective against infection from omicron at all? 190 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Is it only protective against hospitalization and death? Do we 191 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: have a sense as to at what level? You know? 192 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: That discussion has also fallen away as a lot of 193 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: the mask mandates and some of the mania seems to 194 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: be fading around it. Well, I hope one of the 195 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: takeaways there's people, I hope realize you cannot just believe 196 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: what pharma is saying. And they can do some amazing things. 197 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: They're good scientists there and they develop good products. But 198 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: when the messaging comes out, hey we have a new variant. 199 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Just take another dose of our vaccine that we invented 200 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: for prior variants. And by the way, we're going to 201 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: create another vaccine specific to omicron, but just take another 202 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: dose of what we have now until we come up 203 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: with another one and then take to help people see 204 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: through this, I mean, the vaccine trial in kids six 205 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: months through five years failed. It was a randomized control trial. 206 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: It failed. There was no difference. And instead of saying, hey, 207 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: let's scrap this and move on and try something different, 208 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: what they did is they told the FDA, please approve 209 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: this and just trust us. We'll get a third dose 210 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: by the time this is out there and that will 211 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: help you. I think people are seeing through this right now. 212 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: They want to move on. And it's not just this, 213 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: it's all of it. It was the whole group. Think 214 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: surface transmission, the barbarous hospital visitation policies, school closing, the 215 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: narrow dosing interval was too short, cloth masks, ignoring natural immunity, 216 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: boosting kids, all of it. People are sick of all 217 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: of it. Doctor McCarrell, what would you tell parents, because 218 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: there still our parents who are listening to us that 219 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: are trying to decide because there's a lot of pressure 220 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: being put on them, you know this, to go get 221 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: their kids vaccinated for COVID and this is may turn 222 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: into the next Battle Royale before all is said and done. 223 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: I've been open. I think my kids have had COVID. 224 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get that. I'm not anti vax, 225 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: but I'm not getting my young kids the COVID shot. 226 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they needed. I think they've likely had it, 227 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: given that both myself and my wife have had it. 228 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: What would you tell the average parent out there are 229 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: about their kids, especially young kids. Well, I would tell 230 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: them to follow the signus because in Fiser's own vaccine 231 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: trial and Kids through eleven it said that no kid 232 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: who had COVID in the past got COVID, so regardless 233 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: if they got the vaccine or not, they were immune. 234 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: So if they have natural community, nobody should be getting 235 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: a vaccine. If clear young unhealthy, for kids who have 236 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: a comorbidity, I do believe in vaccinating those. Those are 237 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: the high risk kids, and those are the kids that 238 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: benefit from the vaccine, Doctor McCarry, Before I let you go, 239 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: are we by the summer gonna have to think about 240 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff coming back, a lot of 241 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: these debates coming back in November December, or do you 242 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: think enough of the medical community and just the American 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: people in general have seen this for what it is, 244 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: not everybody, but enough that we're not going to have 245 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: to have these battles again. Because I worry, you know, 246 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm here in New York City that come November, right 247 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: after the elections, all of a sudden, they're going to 248 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: say time to put those masks on everybody, just in 249 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: indoor settings, just for a while, maybe too asks, Maybe 250 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: get a booster. We're gonna make you get a booster. 251 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna fire you. I mean, I can see it 252 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: all happening again. Do you think that's that's a concern 253 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: we should have. Yes. And I'll tell you I saw 254 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: this the school debate coming last spring, when the teachers' 255 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: unions were saying, we're just going to get to the 256 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: end of this year and then we'll be good for 257 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: the fall, and we believe schools should be open to fall. 258 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: And I said, well, wait a minute, they are going 259 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: to come up with new arguments, and you're going to 260 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: see a bumping cases in the fall, guaranteed, as like 261 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: we are with influenza and influenza and rhino virus and 262 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: every other virus that circulates year to year, and some 263 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: media outlet is going to report that we just had 264 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: a four hundred percent increase in COVID in you this 265 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: coming November, and that's going to be a headline, even 266 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: though the cases went from two to eight per hundred thousand, 267 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: and there's high population immunities. So yes, I think we 268 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: need to learn our lessons and prepare for a rational argument. 269 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: Actor Marty McCarry, author of The Price We Pay Johns 270 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: Hopkins University Medical Center, Doctor McCarry, all illuminating, sir, thanks 271 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,239 Speaker 1: for spending some time with us. You've been honestly amazing. 272 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Like I wish guys like instead of Fauci, which you 273 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: talked about Buck, like they're going to trot him out 274 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: as if he's a hero. I wish a lot of 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: the doctors like doctor McCarry who actually took risk and 276 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: spoke out on the data. 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That's 301 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: t the Number two T dot Org. Welcome back in 302 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're rolling through the Friday 303 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: edition and we are joined now by Senator Ron Johnson 304 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. Senator Aaron Rodgers won the MVP last night. 305 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that in your state. 306 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: And I did notice this, and it got almost no 307 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: attention after all the anti VACS negativity that he took 308 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: for not getting the COVID vaccine. He was sitting in 309 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: a crowded LA arena, went up on the stage, accepted 310 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: the award, and I didn't see a single media member 311 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: complaining about it. I just thought that was kind of 312 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: an interesting trajectory there. I don't know if you saw 313 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: any of that, but LA seems to have now that 314 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: the oscars are going to be allowed to happen without 315 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: COVID to require COVID vaccine required, no masks. I mean, 316 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: everything is falling apart now in the COVID narrative, isn't it. 317 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I think so. I'm listening to Aaron Rodgers in the MVP. 318 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: He deserves it for playing football, but also for defending 319 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: his personal health autonomy, for defending and pushing back against 320 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: the assaults and the tacks and the vilification they had 321 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: put up with it back down. I really appreciate that 322 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: about him. What's the latest from your perspective that you 323 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: are hearing and seeing. We love to talk with you 324 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: because you are one of the few actual politicians who 325 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: has looked at the data. Have you been surprised by 326 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: how quickly all these democratic governors are suddenly this week 327 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: ending mask mandates and ending many of their COVID restrictions, 328 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: and they're claiming the science changed. But do you think 329 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: it's just finally the poll numbers have gotten so bad 330 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: that they recognize that they're going towards a disaster and 331 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: they had to change something. Well, it doesn't surprise me 332 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, they politicized COVID from the start 333 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: and they they'll be politicizing it all the way through 334 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: the end. I personally think the greatest sin perpetrated by 335 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the COVID gods that you know what I asked. I 336 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: heard somebody start calling the COVID cartel. I think that's 337 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: maybe a best discover the health agencies, you know, big pharmouth, 338 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: the news media, the big tech social media giants. I 339 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: think the greatest sin was in blocking, sabotaging early treatment, 340 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: and nine half thousand people died. They didn't all have 341 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: to die. But then also not exercising caution when it 342 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: came to the vaccines, not not watching their own safety 343 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: surveillance systems. You know, I just got my update on 344 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: my chart on from vyors a one ft one million 345 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: adverse events twenty three thousand, six hundred and fifteen deaths 346 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: report on vyers associated with the QUARTERA vaccines. I know 347 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't prove causation, but thirty seven of those deaths 348 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: that's holding pretty solid, occurring to zero one or two. 349 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: It certainly concerns me. I don't know for the like 350 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: me why it hasn't concerned Fauci and Collums and Walinsky, 351 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: doctor Woodcock, doctor Marx. I mean, I think the thing 352 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: that will be that will be lingering will be the 353 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: vaccine injured. They need acknowledgment, by the way, because as 354 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: long as the CDC won't admit that the vaccine could 355 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: be associated some of their their harms, doctors won't treat them. 356 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: They just treat them like they're mentally ill or something. 357 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: This is a travesty. What is happening? What has happened? 358 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: In anybody that would look at nine hundred thousand dollars death, 359 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand deaths, the human told the economic devastation, 360 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: what we've done to our children? I saw that video joyous. 361 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: I love to see their smiles. What did we do 362 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: to our children? So anybody would take a look at 363 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: our response to COVID and call that a success, it's 364 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: out of his money. It's been a miserable failure, and 365 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: they need to be held accountable for it. Becaun Ron 366 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: Johnson and Wisconsin with us now, Senator totally agree with 367 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: you on that. I'm not as a New Yorker who's 368 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: been put through a lot of the madness of Fauciism, 369 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: really a concentration of lunatic, maniacal Faucii policies here, I'm 370 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: not willing to just move past it. I want to 371 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: know what you think of the Canadian Freedom Convoy and 372 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: also the continued chatter in this country about a similar 373 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: protests movement of Trucker is standing up not just about 374 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates, for basic freedom in the era of COVID. 375 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: I love it. They're standing up and they're fighting for freedom. 376 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: They're doing it peacefully. My wife said that they were. 377 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: People were complaining, they're hanking their horns. They stopped hanking 378 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: their horns. They're making a point, and it's a point 379 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: that again, the COVID cartel, the legacy media, the big 380 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: tech social media giants, they won't let it be made, 381 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: so we've got to make it on the streets. But 382 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, the people fighting for freedom are doing it peacefully, 383 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: they're doing it respectfully, and God bless him for doing it. 384 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: I hope we see more of that here in the 385 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: United States. Quote Honestly, Senator Johnson, I appreciate you running 386 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: for reelection. I know we've mentioned that before, but just 387 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: want to reemphasize that we're number one in the Milwaukee 388 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: market and I want people to come out and make 389 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: sure they support you because you've been willing to fight 390 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: battles that frankly, a lot of politicians have run and 391 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: hid from, and we needed more voices like yours instead 392 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: of fewer. What should happen. Let's presume that you and 393 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: the Republicans are able to take back the Senate and 394 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: take back the House. What should have happened to doctor 395 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Fauci and all of the people who have enabled him 396 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: from your perspective. Is it a nine to eleven style 397 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: true commission? Is it an investigation really in depth into 398 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Fauci and the NIH and all of the gain of 399 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: function research. What would you, if you are a part 400 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: of a majority in the Senate want to do as 401 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: you began twenty twenty three, expose the truth. And I've 402 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: spoken with the Sandra Paula, I've spoken with the Jim Jordan's. 403 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: It's what we are trying to do right now, but 404 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: we're being blocked. You know. I asked for all the 405 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: emails that were granted under four request, but all fully redacted. 406 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 1: So we took about four hundred pages of the four thousand, 407 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: said we want these unredacted. They're letting us review them 408 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: in camera about fifty at a time. It's taken us 409 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: six months. We're down the last fifty pages and they 410 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: won't show us that's what's under that. So we need 411 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: to expose the truth that the solution has to be. 412 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: We need to install doctors at the top of the 413 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: healthcare pyramid again right now there at the bottom. This 414 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: is we've got our healthcare system completely backwards right now, 415 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: right now, it's the COVID god, the Cartail's reigning supreme, 416 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: the pharmacuer companies, the healthcare agencies, then the hospital associations, 417 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: the medical journals. You know, we need doctors to take 418 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the hippocratic oath whose loyalty is to patience. You know, 419 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: they had to be at the top. They have to 420 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: be allowed to practice medicine, to be able to use 421 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: their full off flavor prescription rights without being harassed, without 422 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: their license being threatened or taken away. What has happened 423 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: is a travesty, and people have to recognize us. Nine 424 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. Not all those people had to die. 425 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: They would have had we embraced thoroughly explored early treatment. 426 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: There's literally a cornucopia of cheap, generic, repurposed drugs widely availament. 427 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: It could have been used. There is being used, They 428 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: are being used successfully. It could have been used in 429 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: a widespread fashion. Hundreds of thousands of people I believe 430 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: would be alive today had the COVID cartail not blocked 431 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: early treatment. And they're still blocking it. We're still gonna 432 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: need early treatment because so something's going away. Senator Johnson. 433 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: For people out there who may not understand how much 434 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: difference there is between being in the majority and being 435 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: able to hold Faucia accountable and not being in the majority. 436 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: How much of a difference would it have made the 437 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: last couple of years if Republicans have been in control 438 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: all the time, And how much difference will it make 439 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: for you in January of twenty twenty three compared to 440 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: what you can do now? How seismic is that change? Well, 441 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: I think it's preasing this And obviously I would have 442 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: held official Senate hearings as opposed to the events that 443 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm holding anyway, by the way, my events on 444 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: January twenty fourth, the COVID nineteen a second opinion, over 445 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: two million views on Rumble. That's the full five hour event. 446 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: We have a thirty eight minute to highroit reel that 447 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I put up on YouTube honestly just seeing how long 448 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: it takes them to remove it to have it yet, 449 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: so one point two million views on that. So if 450 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: you don't have five hours at least go to YouTube 451 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: and watch the thirty eight minutes to highlight reel. It 452 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: will open your eyes. These are emily qualified into eduals. 453 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: They are rational and in fact, the way if you're 454 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: going to get even a first opinion wouldn't you grab 455 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: a go to doctors who actually have the courage compassion 456 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: to treat patients as opposed to these knuckleheads that have 457 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: mismanaged COVID in the ivory towers and their little bureaucratic offices. 458 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane. Who we've listened to. Well, 459 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why anybody would keep listening to Fauci 460 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: and Wilinsky and Woodcock at this point. I nine hundred 461 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: thousand deaths, what we've done to our children. So no, 462 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: it's it's about exposing the truth. It's about holding people accountable. 463 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: But then it's about re establishing and putting doctors back 464 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: on top of the medical establishment pyramid. They they have 465 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: to be in charge. Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Sir, 466 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: we always appreciate you coming by, Clay and Buck, thanks 467 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: so much. Stay well. 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There 497 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: are some breaking news reports right now that Americans should 498 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: all evacuate Ukraine immediately according to White House right now 499 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: Jake sull Of, a national security advisor, putting out that statement. 500 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: And there's other reporting that a Russian invasion of Ukraine 501 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: is imminent, expected as soon as early next week, could 502 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: happen in a matter of days now, So we'll continue 503 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: to watch this. Nothing has happened yet with regard to 504 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: an invasion, but the Biden White House is obviously trying 505 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: to get ahead of this with the messaging and dealing 506 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: with what could what will be a pretty major fallout 507 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: at least in the international relations community. And we'll continue 508 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: to watch this for you. If we want to talk 509 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: to you about the freedom trucker revolution right what's going 510 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: on in Canada, because you're being lied to about it 511 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: even if you try to find out about it from 512 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: the Canadian media, which is overwhelmingly state funded. Imagine if 513 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: all we had in America really was NPR, but a 514 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Canadian version of NPR, and that's basically what our brothers 515 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: and sisters up north have. There are a couple of 516 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: news outlets. We had on one of the intrepid reporters 517 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: from Rebel News, but it's really a startup news organization, 518 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: doesn't get the state funding that others, doesn't have the 519 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: same reach the many the other Canadian media outlets do. Well. 520 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: You're being told that this is all a vaccine mandate protest, 521 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's really only a part of it. I would 522 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: recommend to you on the berry Y sub Stack, which 523 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: has now become really almost its own publishing, must read 524 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: What the Truckers Want by Rupa Subramania. I've spoken to 525 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: one hundred of the protesters gathered in the Canadian capital. 526 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: Subramania writes, what's happening is far bigger than the vaccine mandates. 527 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: The author here lives in downtown Ottawa Clay and one 528 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: of the things that's fascinating to read here and to 529 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: learn about from someone firsthand, is that this is about 530 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: much more than what you've been told in the media. 531 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: For example, This is a quote from the piece. The 532 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: convoy is spearheaded by truckers, but its message of opposition 533 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: to life under government control has brought onto the icy 534 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: streets countless once voiceless people declaring that they are done 535 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: being ignored, that the elites, the people who have zoomed 536 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: their way through the pandemic, had better start paying attention 537 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: to the fentanyl overdoses, the suicide, to the crime, the despair, 538 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: or else. Clay, this isn't just a protest about vaccine. 539 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: Most are the five of the truckers are vaccinated. This 540 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: is a protest about ending the government's tyranny around COVID 541 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: once and for all, which is why the apparatus here 542 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: and in Canada hates it so much. You know, I've 543 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: been thinking, and I'm sure you probably have two and 544 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: following this Canadian trucker protest, and we have so many 545 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: truckers who listen to this show. I mean, I bet 546 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: if we told you right now, hey, honk your horn, 547 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: if you are listening to Clay and Buck, all of 548 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, everywhere right major interstates, there'd be suddenly a 549 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of horns honking right now, because these guys have 550 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time to sit and think in their 551 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: individualist right. What I love about them is they all 552 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: are independent individualist who are responsible for so many different 553 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: things when it comes to the success of their different 554 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: trips that they are taking on a daily basis. But 555 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: you have time to sit and think and contemplate things, 556 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: and you also experience so many different parts of the country. 557 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: And the more I was thinking about it, the more 558 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: it made sense that trucking, which is a job that 559 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: in many ways is about being able to go to 560 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: so many different places and experience so many different things 561 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: and see the full fabric of whatever country you're in 562 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: or countries that you are traveling through, would be uniquely 563 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: as a profession, particularly offended by the notion that everybody 564 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: has to do something, and because of the fact that 565 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: many of them are independent contractors, who many of them 566 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: own their own trucks, that they would have the ability 567 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: to actually stand up against this right, because that's one 568 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: of the challenges that we've had with all these mandates. 569 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: And the United States hasn't been as bad anywhere near 570 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: as bad as Canada, thanks to the federalism that we 571 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: have here in the governors and frankly to the Supreme 572 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: Court standing up against Biden's unconstitutional mandate, unlike what's going 573 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: on in Canada. But it doesn't surprise me the more 574 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: I thought about it, that it would be this group 575 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: that would end up having the most significant battle for 576 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: freedom that we've maybe seen anywhere. Right. I mean, when 577 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: you think about what these Canadian truckers are doing and 578 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: the bravery involved in what they're doing spreading also all 579 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: over the world, it's about much more than just vaccine mandates, folks. 580 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: And that's what they don't want you to do. That's 581 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: what the apparatus of the Democrats, the media, the Trudeau tyranny, 582 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know that. It's one of 583 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: the reasons why Trudeau he's just smearing them out right. 584 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: Another thing again, hat tip to this Barry Ye Substack 585 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: and this excellent piece in it Clay. We mentioned we 586 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier in the week. So people are actually 587 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: finding out stuff of course, as always from listening to 588 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: this show that they won't hear on NPR or the 589 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: CBC or CNN or whatever. There are a lot of 590 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: people from very diverse backgrounds involved in the protest. There 591 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: are Sikh truckers who are standing side by side with 592 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: their brothers and sisters of the trucking community. There there 593 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: are immigrants from all over the world. There are Korean immigrants. 594 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: There are people who have come to Canada just like 595 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: a many immigrants come to America to find something better, 596 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: to find freedom, and they are appalled and what has 597 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: happened under COVID. This is from the piece. Some of 598 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: these truckers sound like Ivan forty six, who emigrated with 599 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: his wife Tatiana from Ukraine to build a new life 600 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: in New Brunswick, Canada. We came to Canada to be free, 601 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: he says, not to be slaves. We lived under communism 602 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: and in Canada we're now fighting for our freedom. That's 603 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: what these guys and girls and everyone who's showing up 604 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: to help them, That's what these people in the Freedom 605 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: Boy are really pushing for. This is using finally levers 606 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: that the system relies on to force the system to 607 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: stop being oppressive for I think about this, for what reason? 608 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: This is what we've been telling everybody. What has been 609 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: the benefit of all this, Of the chalk outlines around 610 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: people in public parks, of the arrest of paddle borders, 611 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: of masking up between bites, of double masking alone outside, 612 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: has there been any upside to any of this clay? 613 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: It's going to be and already is the biggest public 614 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: policy failure of our lives. And we talk about the 615 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: moments that crystallized how absurd it is. And I saw 616 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: you tweeting about some of these things earlier, But to me, 617 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: it's putting police tape, caution tape around our kids playgrounds. 618 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I just want you to think about what 619 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: we have done to kids masking wise, But how irrational 620 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: was it that in March and April, even in Tennessee 621 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: where I live, and even in suburban Williamson County, which 622 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: is one of the most irrational places possible. Everybody's got 623 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: their kids around the house here, got a lot of energy. 624 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: You're trying to find things for them to do. When 625 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: school suddenly shut down in March, Buck I just remember 626 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: taking my kids for a walk in the neighborhood and 627 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: getting to the local playground and it was covered in 628 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: caution tape. And you were not supposed to put your 629 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: kids on the swings, you weren't supposed to let them 630 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: go down the slide. They took basketball rims off of 631 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: hoops all over America Buck they had janitors that they 632 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: climbed up on ladders and unscrewed basketball rims to keep 633 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: people from being able to shoot basket, to play basketball 634 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: in public parks. They fill old fuck They filled up 635 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: skate parks with sand in California to keep skateboarders from 636 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: being able to use the skateparks. How can you possibly, 637 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: as a voter ever vote for anyone who countenanced any 638 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: of that behavior. This is why the midterms are so 639 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: important to me, because if there aren't consequences for idiotic, indefensible, authoritarian, 640 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: imbecilic decisions, then what's the point of having elections? Like 641 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: you have to hold these people accountable and you can't 642 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: let them do what they're going to try to do 643 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: and argue, well, we just didn't know. It was better 644 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: that we took those took those decisions than to have 645 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: had too much risk. It was the experts. We just 646 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: passed it onto the experts. That's always been a central 647 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: lie of all of this. They didn't have to listen 648 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: to any of the quote experts. These were politicians who 649 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: are making these decisions. They're making it based on political considerations. 650 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: The original poisoning of the well of truth around COVID 651 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: was the need to defeat Donald Trump in twenty twenty. 652 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: That then was all that the left, all that the 653 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: apparatus needed to justify maximum fearmongering, maximum hysteria creation. And 654 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: then it really became, I think later on clear to 655 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: them that they had to just keep writing it because 656 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: they couldn't really control it, They couldn't really direct it anymore, 657 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: So what else were they going to do? It became 658 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: less useful over time, and now I think they realize 659 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of people that are Democrat based 660 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: voters who are psychologically scarred but clay to the point 661 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: you're making about accountability, and this is why we will 662 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: continue to hammer this. You heard doctor Marty McCarry in 663 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: the first hour. They will do this again. They are 664 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: not done. There are people for whom the subjugation of 665 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: not just your rights, really the subjugation of your spirit. 666 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean the absolute crushing of human freedom and basic 667 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: dignity that the Fauci apparatus engaged. And during this whole 668 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: process and all the misery and pain they put people 669 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: through totally unnecessarily out of arrogance, out of arrogance that 670 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: they always had the answers. They'll apply this to whatever 671 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: else they can get away with. They'll apply this to 672 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: climate change, to stopping gun violence, the same mentality, the 673 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: same absolutism. Which is why this is for me an 674 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: existential issue in our society. We either win this argument, Clay, 675 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: or none of the other arguments are really going to matter. 676 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: The government doesn't get to say our people are scared, 677 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: so you have no rights anymore. And we've seen what 678 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: that starts to look like. We've seen the closure of 679 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: the churches. We've seen that you can't hug your dying 680 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: parents in the hospital because there's a virus that we 681 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: say is too scary. We've seen the children being forced 682 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: to be abused eight hours a day by the state 683 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: in Australia for Heaving's sakes. We've seen internment camps, not 684 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: just for those who have the virus, those who could 685 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: theoretically have the virus. Imagine if we get a variant, 686 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: and I don't mean to even bring this up, but 687 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: we get a variant in a year or ten years 688 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: or fifty years that actually has a three percent or 689 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: a five percent fatality rate, not a point zero three 690 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: fatality at a point zero zero through whatever it is lay, 691 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: we would have true totalitarianism in this country and the 692 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: blink of an eye, because we've already set in place 693 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: the groundwork for it. Right now, not enough pushback from us. 694 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: We have to We have to rely on truckers who 695 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: work long hours and are underpaid north the border, up 696 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: in the frozen parts of Canada to stand up for 697 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: freedom in a way that's rallying us here in this country. 698 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so proud of them, but at some 699 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: level I'm also I'm also disappointing what's gone on here, 700 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Yeah, and I understand that maybe 701 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: we come back, we can talk about why there hasn't 702 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: been the mass uprising in the United States like there 703 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: has been in Canada. 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Today, 730 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: we continue to see signs of Russian escalation, including new 731 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: forces arriving at the Ukrainian border. As we've said before, 732 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: we are in the window when an invasion to begin 733 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: at any time, should Vladimir Prutin decide to order it. 734 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: I will not comment on the details of our intelligence information, 735 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: but I do want to be clear it could begin 736 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: during the Olympics, despite a lot of speculation that it 737 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: would only happen after the Olympics. Just minutes ago there 738 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: the National Security Advisor under the Biden White House war 739 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,479 Speaker 1: in Ukraine could be imminent, a Russian invasion, perhaps only 740 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: days away. More indicators that that is where this is heading. 741 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: We'll continue to follow that story and bring you up 742 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: to speed as we get up to speed on it. 743 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: We're now joined by our friend Will Caine, host of 744 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends Weekend and the Willkine Podcast. He's also 745 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: got a special on Fox Nation coming out next week 746 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: called Long Drive Back Tiger Woods and Ben Hogan, Will Buddy, 747 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: Good to have you, Buck Clay, what's up guy, We're 748 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: good man. So we spent a lot of time that 749 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: they're talking about the pivot, the big shift right now 750 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: away from mask up between bites outside and the cold, 751 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: or make the kids do that at least too Maybe 752 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: it's time to think about life somewhat normal going forward. 753 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: What do you think is going on here? I can 754 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: only assume it's rats jumping off of the ship, seeing 755 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: that the ship is sinking, I can only assume it 756 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: has to do with absolutely abysmal polling numbers and the 757 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: potential bloodbath at the polls. That being said, whatever is 758 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: motivating this regime, that's probably the right word to use. Regime, 759 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: not political party, but absolutely power based regime. Whatever is 760 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: motivating them, I happen to find myself in this unforgiving attitude. 761 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: Another friend of the three of ours, Jesse Kelly, has 762 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: given great voice to this, and I be real with 763 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: both of you guys. I struggle because I want to 764 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: be a person of forgiveness. I want to be a 765 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: positive person and ready to move forward. But I do 766 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: believe we can't move forward without some accountability. I am 767 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: not afraid. I am certain the Hakeem Jeffreys of the 768 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: world will move forward trying to convince everyone that their 769 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: policies that Joe Biden delivered us from COVID, and they 770 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: will spend zero time on reflection, and they will pretend 771 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: they did not mask our children for two years they 772 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: did not lock down our businesses for significant periods of time, 773 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: and they did not instill fear in the population at large. 774 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: And I just simply can't forgive and forget the last 775 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: two years. Amen, Well, I mean, and that's why my 776 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: argument is for everybody out there listening right now, as 777 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: much anger and vitriol as you feel right now, don't 778 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: allow it to fade between now and November. Right November 779 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: needs to be a consequential election where the people who 780 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: made these awful decisions are regarding COVID pay political consequences 781 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: for those choices. Otherwise, what is the point of an 782 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: election if you don't hold politicians accountable for what I 783 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: think is the biggest public policy failure since Vietnam For 784 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: most of us out there, certainly those of us who 785 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 1: are relatively young, and I'm using a young expansively, well, 786 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: there's never been anything that is this poorly run in 787 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: any of our lives in America. Clayton, I would go 788 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: step further. I don't think the reckoning is only at 789 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: the ballot box. And I'm not talking about tribunals or 790 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: public trials, but I am talking about the total and 791 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: uttered destruction of credibility. You you say, one of the 792 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: biggest public policy blunders of our time. I would add 793 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: to that one of the biggest propaganda scribes in my lifetime, 794 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: and I would suggest probably at least in a half 795 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: a century. And so what we have seen is the 796 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: perpetuation of you want to talk about the big lie. 797 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: How about the multitude of lies that people like doctor 798 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci and on down to mayors across this country 799 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: have perpetuated on the American people with significant long term costs, 800 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: most notably on our kids. But when this is done, 801 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: clay Buck, when the rat have jumped off the ship, 802 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: there will be some sad souls left like zombies shuffling around. 803 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: They've been, they have been. These are beyond the authoritarian 804 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: power grabbers. This is beyond the virtue signalers. This is 805 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: the true sad cost of those who have internalized the bear. 806 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: You may know some, I know some. These are the 807 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 1: people who actually aren't cynical, who are sadly now mentally destroyed, 808 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: and they will walk around in fear of something they 809 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 1: can't see for the rest of their lives. Were speaking 810 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: of Wilkaine, co host of Fox and Friends Weekend and 811 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: host of the Wilkaine podcast, which is very excellent. I 812 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: was just a guest on it recently, so you should 813 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: all go check out Will's podcast. Will to me, I 814 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: do wonder. I mean, you know, you, you and I 815 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: both Clay has sometime at CNN a little bit a 816 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: little different is very shortly very you and I they're 817 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: both spend some time over there, and you know, with 818 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: Zucker's ouster, I just have to wonder if, given now 819 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: that all this stuff is really what I would just 820 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: call the edifice of Fauciism, is just crumbling all around 821 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: us in real time. Anyone who's paying attention can see it. 822 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: Do you think that there'll be some people who will 823 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: not only reflect, you know, internally, but will publicly begin 824 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: to say, wow, we actually, whether it's CN or the 825 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: New York Time or anywhere anywhere else, we called for 826 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: the abuse of children, and for the trampling of the Constitution, 827 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: and for the destruction of people's mental health, with little, 828 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,439 Speaker 1: if any attendant benefit to their health. Do you think 829 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: we might see some shift? I mean, at some point, 830 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: is it so ugly and so immoral what's been done 831 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: that even CNN we'll have some people say, yeah, we 832 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that again. No, not in a moment of 833 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: self reflection. Can I say, just for one moment, the 834 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: last thing Clay needs is any more ego boost. But 835 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 1: I remember a little bit. Like everyone in an older 836 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: generation than us can remember where they were when JFK 837 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: was assassinated, I can remember where I was when Clay 838 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: said he loved the First Amendment and boobs on CNN. 839 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: I was in Las Vegas, Svada, covering a boxing match 840 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: for First Take on ESPN. I was set to go 841 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: debate stephen A on Golovkin versus Alvarez I think it was, 842 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: and Clay with the Internet on fire by saying the 843 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: word boobs on CNN. And I didn't know Clay at 844 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: the time, but I knew that I would one day. 845 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: Buck to your point, and by the way, I would say, 846 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: you need to go check out the Willcaine podcast. Buck 847 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: was excellent on it. If you want to know more 848 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: about who Buck is as an individual, a human being, 849 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: a person, and where we both have come together, go 850 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 1: check that out. And so Buck and Clay, you both 851 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: know this. There won't be self reflection. Don Lemon will 852 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: never look in the mirror and say did I get 853 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: this wrong. That will not happen. But Buck, there will 854 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: be a different form of accountability. I think most specifically 855 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: at CNN. I think we're probably within twelve months of 856 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 1: a total house cleaning at CNN. Fantastic. All right, this 857 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: is going to be a hell of a pivot. It's 858 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: almost as big of a pivot as we've seen the 859 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: Blue States making as it pertains damasks leaving aside the 860 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: greatest public policy failure of any of our lives. Sundays, 861 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: the football Super Bowl game going on. Well, I am 862 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: on the Rams as a four point favorite. I think 863 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: they win by double digit. I like the under in 864 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: this game. I like Aaron Donald to b MVP. Buck 865 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: has no idea about any of that that I just said, 866 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,959 Speaker 1: no zero zero. Well, what do you expect to see 867 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl comes Sunday? Canna be boring? Look, 868 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if they teach us to think the 869 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: same way at Vanderbilt University of Texas law. I don't 870 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: know how we have ended up on the state of 871 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: the same side of so many issues, Travis. But I'm 872 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: on the Rams. I'm on the Rams to cover. I'm 873 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: going to place a nice little bet on Aaron Donalds 874 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: as your MVP. I think I get plus twelve hundred 875 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm gonna I'm gonna hedge that with 876 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of Cooper Cup. MVP you know to be. 877 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: And that's, by the way, Clay, I think those are 878 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: the most interesting bets, the most fun bets, and I 879 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 1: agree those are the three and people can understand those. 880 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna do a prop bet with Buck, 881 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: so you I love prop bets, but Buck, I had 882 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: dub pull non sports prop bets for you to be 883 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: able to go head to head against me without needing 884 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: any football knowledge. So you can have super Bowl Stakes 885 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,479 Speaker 1: games here. We're gonna do that and coming back a break. 886 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: But those are the three I agree, Will, because you 887 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: can everybody can kind of have an opinion and they 888 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: aren't overwhelming to make. Yeah, And so here's the thing. 889 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: In order to win MVP, what you have to be. 890 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: You either have to be a quarterback or you have 891 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: to be famous. And Aaron donald is just famous enough, 892 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: and so is Cooper Cup. Because the odds on favorite, 893 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: if you and I are right that the Rams win 894 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: and the odds on favorite is Matt Stafford wins MVP, 895 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 1: but you don't make any money picking the odds on favorite. 896 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: So take your long shots. Take Aaron Donald, take Cooper Cup. 897 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys might as well be speaking speaking 898 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: in Chinese for all I could. Anyway, I'm glad. I'm 899 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: glad that everyone out there. I'm glad the rest of 900 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: America knows what you're talking about because I have no idea. 901 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 1: Everyone check out the wil Kaine Podcast and obviously tune 902 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: in this weekend to Fox and Friends with I mean, 903 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing yet, Will Kaine, our friend Pete Hegseth, 904 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 1: we got a you know, a great squad. Rachel's great, fantastic. Yeah. 905 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, on Saturday morning, President Donald Trump. Wow, Wow, 906 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: that's a hell of a tease. That's a big timer. 907 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: Well done, Will our friend. We'll talk to you soon, buddy. 908 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. 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