WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: What’s Next On Defense? 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.920 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:19.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.680 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquars at the 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:33.760 Star in Friscol says, go and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:39.680 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.519 Monday morning edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Geico from 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.199 the s WBC Mortgage Studios here at the Star in 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.560 frist Go. Glad you're with us. Everybody. Hope you had 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.680 a fantastic weekend, because we're about to make your Monday 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.760 a little bit better by talking some Cowboys. Is March Madness, 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.680 of course still around for a couple of days in 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.559 the basketball world, but the NFL free agency periods still 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.240 just heating up, it seems like around the Star, and 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.560 we're gonna talk about some of the recent movers and 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.160 groovers in NFL free agency. Also going to talk about 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.440 a little bit of the Mike McCarthy press conference that 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.759 happened on Thursday. But first we gotta give a little 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:24.160 props because our very own Isaiah Standback has done some 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:29.160 of his homework this offseason and ink. And it's pretty obvious, gentlemen, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:34.560 because well, nobody predicted the Pac twelve domination in March 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.880 Madness on the basketball floor, but our very own Pac 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:42.160 twelve alumni has dominated our winners, losers and Cinderella segment 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.480 we had a couple weeks ago because Isaiah predicted Keonamel 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.400 to be signed, predicted Alden Smith to be moved on 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.720 from and then he's his Cinderella. His dream pick is 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.920 kJ Wright, who at the moment is still out there 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.480 and is also being rumored connected me with the Cowboys. Rob, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:11.160 you're telling me so you're saying this chance, right, yep. Well, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.280 Isaiah has done very well in that segment, much better 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.760 than we did in that segment. But whenever it comes 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.000 to the NFL offseason, so far, Isaiah got it right. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.800 And really the reason for that, Rob, I think is 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:30.760 mostly because it's been very predictable. Yeah, I mean it's 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.600 been It's I didn't chat with you guys last week, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.440 but I mean it's been the first week and second 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.520 week exactly kind of what we said it would be. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.520 And fans don't like it. And I think fans are 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.800 probably a little bit happier this week than maybe last 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.519 week after the Neil signing and some of the other 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.320 moves they've made. But this is what they do. They 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.760 are not going to be active the first two three 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.560 days other than maybe resigning a couple of their own guys, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.560 and they're gonna look for opportunities, and this year in particular, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.960 there might be more opportunities after the first week than 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.040 ever before because of the market so weird. And but 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.520 they're doing exactly what they've done for like the last 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:13.800 ten years. Guys. They're covering their bases. Not really anything 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.560 that's going to prevent them from addressing any position in 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.240 the draft. I don't think. I think they can still 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.200 go anywhere they want to go, but they're doing a 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.640 pretty good job of trying to cover some bases on defense. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.399 I like what they've done, particularly in the last week 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:33.880 or so. Beckma so so. Robbie's saying, slow and steady 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.640 wins the race. And we hadn't made any splash signings, 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.600 and I think that's what everybody's looking for, that one 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.760 or two splash signings. And you know, Isaiah did get 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.640 it right with kJ Wright being rumored to be affiliated 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.760 in some kind of way with the Dallas Cowboys and 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.920 never thought than a million years if we'd see that 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.720 Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright combo break up. But man, 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.760 if we are able to land the guy like that, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.960 you know how special he is and how instinctive he's 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.640 mostly one of the most instinctive linebackers that we have 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.360 in the league right now. But you're right, pe Uh, 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.320 just off season alone hadn't been a lot of splashing guys, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:15.240 nail and now with the addition of Cauzee, Um, you know, look, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.400 we're looking like we're going in the right direction. We 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.160 are refilling or restocking the covers. But I think there's 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.720 still a lot. Uh if I'm sure we're all of 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.960 agree that there's still a lot that we love. Yeah, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.760 there's no uh, definitely no doubt about that, fellas hum 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.360 And I appreciate you guys giving me a credit. I'm 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.040 just trying to make up for my predictions this season. Um, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.920 they were a black luster, so my game pick from pigs. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.839 But uh, but no, overall, man, I think that the 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.360 Cowboys are doing a good job. It's kind of like 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.200 the It's kind of like the the girl at the 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.080 or guy, you know, a girl or a guy at 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.400 the at the at the at the pool party in 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.120 the summertime. Heck, you know when they come out there 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.640 and they got they got the shirt on it. They 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.640 get into water, but they walk with their hands like 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.320 this because they really don't want the hair to get wet, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.520 because they got somewhere to be after the pool party. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.119 So no, not making us flash, but you're still getting 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.880 from one end of the pool to the other, right, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.680 so you still give them so love that, so you're 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.640 still reaching your destination. But I think I think they 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.440 have some things up their sleeves in terms of the draft, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.359 and I think that they're really addressing the areas that 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.000 they needed to. They grab some some some d linemen 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.159 that fit their needs. I think they got some competitive guys. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.200 They got some guys that are hungry um at this 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.679 point in their career. I think at the safety position, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.760 we all knew that needed to be addressed. And I 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.760 think that they did a great job getting veterans not 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.279 only who are who are proving guys in the league. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.279 They're experienced guys, and they're guys who are having some 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.640 things to overcome. Right, There's there are guys that have 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.719 some things that they have some things to come back from, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.479 improve reprove who they are in this league. Um, and 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.680 you're always looking for guys who can come in and compete, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.360 especially when you can get veterans to compete. Right. It's 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.159 one thing to get young guys to compete, but getting 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.400 veterans who are proven who just need to get their 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.080 confidence back, that's a whole other deal. Oh and by 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.320 the way, they're familiar with with the with their defensive coordinator, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.760 so really excited about the things that they're doing. I 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.640 know it's not fancy, and the fans don't really like 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.520 it because you guys mentioned it's not a splash, but 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.200 I think they're being very strategic and the moves that 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.800 they have made with these veterans are positioning them to 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.599 be able to go the directions they really want to go. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.280 In the draft. You know, all Isaiah's analogies, we didn't 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.560 want to show that. My favorite one, it was perfect. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.920 I mean the water, the waters of free agency. The 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.320 mental image in my head is Heckma keeping his hands 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.720 above water so that way he doesn't get his hair 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.440 wet all the way. Yeah, that's that's my that's my 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.960 visual that's going through my head right now. Don't don't 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.600 get it. Don't get it twisted. I'm not a T 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:42.599 shirt all. Just know that. And also, I never had 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:47.960 no problems with worrying about getting my hair with so 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.520 he was letting that six pack shine, letting the head shine, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.520 and it's a whole thing. Oh my goodness, it's a 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.320 whole I'd say you brought up a really good point, though, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.000 and I don't want to go back and hit this. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.800 We're going to talk about all of these free agent 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:07.040 signings throughout the course of the next hour. However, you 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.440 brought up the point of veterans competing because you can 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.400 go out and get veterans. Veterans are available readily on 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.120 a market, and usually they will be pretty cheap. And 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.240 that's exactly what we saw in twenty twenty when it 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.640 comes to the Dallas Cowboys, as they went to Dantaripo, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.560 they went to Haha, Clinton Dix, they went to Mary's Kennedy, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.000 and I know Kennedy opted out for family reasons, but 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.760 out of those three guys, the veterans that they went 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:35.400 and signed, competition and competing that will that dog that 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.200 we've talked about so many times on this show was 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.520 lacking whereas you start looking at the guys that they've 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.000 brought in here in twenty twenty one, then Brent Urban, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.360 he's known to be a guy that plays with a 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.400 mean streak. Same thing with Royal Basham, same thing with 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.000 Keon O'Neil. There are these guys that may have had 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.400 some either past injury issues for it, maybe not played 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.800 as well as they thought to have been played in 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.320 the past. But they're going and getting guys Isaiah, that 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.760 you think are gonna come in and compete and and 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.040 and fight for those positions. Yeah, I mean, we just 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:13.320 became too deep at safety last last year we were 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.960 hoping to be one one deep. Right now we have 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.160 Now we have Kazy and Curse gonna be competing, right 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.440 and we have freaking Key O'Neill and freaking Wilson going 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.920 to be competing those that's too deep. We're too deep 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.800 as safety, just like that, right, just like that. I 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.240 don't know if that's the thing about the guys that 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.280 we have, but I don't know. That's a little too 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.839 far for me to say we're too deep at safety. Whatever. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.880 You've got a guy like Kazi and what was the 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.760 other signing that I'm completely blanking on his name from Detroit. Yeah, curse, curse. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.360 I mean those two guys, you could say that their 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.079 bodies there, but I wouldn't say that we're deep at safety. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.720 I'm saying you're I'm saying you're too deep. I didn't 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:57.400 say that you Oh like g W seems with talent. Yeah, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.200 like like two like two two, like two guys, two guys. Okay, 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.560 I thought you were saying, like no, no, no, no 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.400 no no t W. Let me classify that. Yeah. So 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.560 at free safety and the strong safety positions, we went 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.520 from having one guy that we were confident with because 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.480 in Donovan Wilson coming up and hitting people right and 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.800 that was pretty much it last year. Any anybody else 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.600 have anything contested with that. So so we felt we 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.840 felt good about one guy being on the field competing 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.520 right now, you literally have four guys that you're like, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.600 you guess what if nothing else, I know, these boys 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.880 gonna come out here and compete. If nothing else, They're 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.679 gonna come out here, compete. They're gonna run around, the're 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.760 gonna hit. At the free safety position, we have two 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.480 guys that are gonna go out there and their ball hawks, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.640 their ball hawks. These guys are ball hawks. I'm not now, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.960 I'm not putting them in at a category with you know, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.000 some of the greats. Let's don't don't get mixed up. However, 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.559 I'm not calling them at every reason that. But but 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.600 these guys, these guys, these are guys that you will say, Hey, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:53.840 if these guys are on the field, I know, at 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.839 least they're gonna play the ball, right, They're gonna play 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.800 the ball, They're gonna run out, yes, sir. Let me. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.960 Let me just add to that point that you may 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.440 is that you know, you talked about this at the 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.720 beginning of the season, there being a necessity for competition 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.760 and that breeding the kind of culture that you're looking for. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.600 And you could tell dan Quinn has already come in 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.800 with that mind state that we're gonna have competition and 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.200 OTAs two of days, all of that, and that's the 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.480 way that this roster is going to be churned and 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.600 not gonna go into Michcarthy's interview. But still you know 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.520 that that's a necessity, and if you can go back 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.600 to the season of twenty twenty, we didn't have a 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.160 lot of that, and I think all of that was 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.000 a by product too of COVID and everything that we 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.760 had to go on. I mean, it wasn't a lot 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.600 of contact or any of that. But still when you 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.760 look at the Urbans and you look at the Watkins 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.559 and guys that free agent acquisitions on the D line, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.319 you could tell there's gonna be some churning going into 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.200 that final fifty three man roster. I think all of 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.959 that is going to be interesting, but I look for 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.600 a new look competitive defense going into twenty twenty one, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.320 for sure. One more thing about the safety position, you 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.679 guys jogged my memory. I forget which game it was, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.160 but there was one game early in the season where 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.480 Stephen Parker, remember him, was signed. He was promoted from 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.560 the practice squad just to be active for the game 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.120 and wound up getting like forty snaps in the game, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.520 you know, And it was it was indicative of them 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.960 trying to find answers at that position. You know, they 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.160 signed Haha last year and a week into camp it 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.720 was like they threw him for a loop. They really, 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.280 I mean, he was not getting it done for whatever reason. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.480 They weren't happy there, tried to go with darry and Thompson, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.000 and then like you said, I mean it wasn't until 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.440 Donovan just kind of showed up that they had kind 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.320 of one answer there. So I don't think they're done 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.559 looking there. I think the draft could still be a possibility, sure, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.320 but they're bringing in I think Isaiah hit on it. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.920 You bring in a couple of guys that dan Quinn 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.679 knows and can adjust to his scheme and have a 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.520 comfort level in it right off the bat. I think 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.120 that's important. One of the things that I mentioned, I 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.240 think I mentioned it weeks back. I think actually when 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.439 before when dan Quinn's name was mentioned as a deep 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.800 potential defensive coordinator. One of the first things that I 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.880 told you guys about was the fact that the culture 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.920 he's trying to duplicate the culture in Seattle, Right, that's 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.160 what happens. He's a He's a byproduct of Pete Carroll. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.480 It is what it is. And the culture with Coach 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.640 Carroll is all competition. When it was at USC, it 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.800 was competition, when it was the Seahawks, competition. That's all 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.719 he breeds off of. And every day at practice there 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.760 was a theme, Right, there's a theme that you would 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.400 that whether it was takeaway takeaway Thursdays or whatever it 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.760 is you know, strip mondays, like there's all kinds of stuff, right, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.920 Like every day had a theme. And he started to 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.679 practice off with a one on one right with this 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.199 defensive line versus over offensive line, and he would call 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.440 guys out and everybody would circling around him, and like 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.880 that was the environment. That was a culture. And I've 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.400 mentioned that before and now you guys are awesome that 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.160 you guys were starting to see this. Now he's doing that, right, 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.280 He's doing that with the roster he's gonna bring in. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.679 He's gonna bring veterans that compete, that are gonna compete. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.320 Like this is where you guys are at in your career. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:55.880 If you guys want to get this money next year, 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.120 y'all better come show up, right, And he's gonna bring 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.480 in some young blood too, that's gonna compete with these guys. 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.440 So I'm gonna take this old school blood, I'm gonna 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.560 take this young blood, and I'm gonna mix it together 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.280 and we're gonna see who comes out and wants to 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.559 crawl to the top. And guess what, All the while, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.880 we're all getting better. You're getting better as a player 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.360 because you're learning how to compete and elevate your game, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.760 and we're getting better as a team because now everybody 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.160 has elevated their game. He's going to do that at 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.040 every single position on that side of the ball. That's 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.640 why he's nowhere near done to adding to this roster. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.920 And I think that's where it goes back to what 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.800 we've talked about whenever we say that dan Quinn was 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:35.000 the best acquisition free agency wise this offseason and Will 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.600 I think all the way through that's exactly what we're 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.080 gonna say going into next year because of the addition 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:42.920 of dan Quinn and the step up from what was 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.280 Mike Nolan, I think is going to be something that 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.880 Cowboys fans will look at this year as a huge 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:54.000 win for this organization. Now, what's that I want to 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.200 ask you a question, Man, ask me, so when you 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.479 say dan Quinn is the biggest acquisition in the offseason, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.160 what's gonna be the biggest difference between dan Quinn's philosophy 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.720 that differed from Rob Mill, Rob Marinelli and Christmas Show. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.800 What's going to be the difference between what he brings 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:16.040 as a defensive coordinat I think the simplicity of the 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:23.160 defense from Marinelli to Quinn is similar. However, Marinelli tried 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.680 to force round pegs into square holes in terms of 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.600 scheme fit, and he said, let's fit these players to 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.680 our scheme, whereas Mike McCarthy has already come out and 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.640 said on Thursday, it's all about the players. It's about 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.200 fitting your scheme to the players and allowing them to play. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.160 That's what we were excited about with Mike Nolan last year. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.200 That's what we were excited about because he said the 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.480 same thing. However, it didn't end up looking like that. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.120 Actions speak louder than words, and the actions where that 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.560 we're gonna try and do way too much. We're gonna 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.360 try and do too much, especially out of a virtual 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.040 ops season, and I think moving into twenty twenty one, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.520 even if there is a virtual off season, I think 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.640 there's gonna be a step up because of the veteran 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.360 ability of Dan Quinn and the success that he's had 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.800 of running a simplistic defense and allowing these players to 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:14.560 dictate what that defense is. Answer is that an answer 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.680 did I stump you? Would you ever rebuttal? No? No, no, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.400 I absolutely have a rebuttal. And the deal is is 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.320 that I think the same thing that you're saying about 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:29.360 Mike Nolan is the same round pick square, whole mentality 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.440 guys that don't fit the scheme that you're trying to 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.200 run on the fly. And so look, the thing that 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.120 I love about dan Quinn, and maybe not the simplistic approach, 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.600 I think that his cell packages are going to be 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.400 different than what you got from Marionelli, won't be asked, predictable, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.680 and the whole ideal of hybrid or guys that can 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.080 play multiple positions in your scheme doesn't tilt your hand. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.520 So that's the thing that I like about dan Quinn. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.760 But I just wanted to know. I've heard this a 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.440 bunch about dan Quinn being the biggest acquisition in the 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.280 offseason and not people not the perception being that players 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.920 coming in and actively, you know, executing the system being 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.400 the difference maker. So just wanted to know, you know what, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.680 that's a That's a great point though, because it can't 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.720 just be oh, we got a new defensive coordinator, everything's fixed. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.200 I mean, he he has a great reputation. Isaiah did 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.880 a great job talking about it. I think I think 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.600 the biggest point that Mike made last week in his 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.120 press conference was a tighter blend of three to four 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.680 four three, you know, using both because every defense around 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.720 the league is pretty much doing that. Everybody's kind of 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.880 multiple to some extent, but not and probably cutting down 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.400 on the volume. If it's a virtual offseason. I don't 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:45.560 think they're gonna overflow with major changes like they did 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.640 last year because it just it was too much and 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:52.480 it didn't work given the way the league worked last year. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.560 But you still got to have players. I mean, you 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.040 got to have some upgrades, and I do think to 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.360 to Heckma's point, I mean, i'm I'm I agree that 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.240 quinn Is that's a huge acquisition and it may be 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.160 the biggest one, but Neil has a chance to be 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.119 the best acquisition they have from the player's side. I 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:15.760 think has has been to a Pro Bowl. It's just injuries. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.439 Same thing with because he if they can stay healthy, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.959 you know, I think last year we talked about and 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.760 I think we all kind of got excited about some 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.520 of their additions. They were mostly guys in their thirties. 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.600 He's he's twenty five years old. I think he could 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.359 still play some good football. And I think I'm not 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.919 going to use the word heck the hybrid world. I 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:38.000 just used it the word, but he can be kind 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.720 of that Swiss army knife and help you in a 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.000 lot of different ways. That was That's an interesting signing 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.680 the second week of free agency. I think it was 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.440 a good one. And I do want to preface this 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.000 by saying, we're not talking about dan Quinn coming in 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.840 and taking this defense from the bottom of the barrel 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.760 of the NFL and putting them all of a sudden 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.639 in the top five and we're gonna see the legion 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.640 of boom and this is going to be incredible. We're 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.920 talking about dan Quinn going from thirty two to twenty 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.400 two like that. That's the only jump you really need. 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.400 And that's why you're so good on the offensive side 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.200 of the football. It's because you don't need a defense 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.640 to be in the top fifteen to be a Super 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.320 Bowl contender, at least with an offense like this. So 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.760 I'm not saying it's a it's a be all, end 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.080 all fix with dan Quinn. I'm just saying that I 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.880 think where you're going to see more disciplined football, You're 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.600 going to see a more understanding football IQ from the 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.159 defensive side than we saw in twenty twenty. That's my 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.360 way of looking at it. And Isaiah, I know you've 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.760 mentioned it in the past. The energy is another thing 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.960 that I think dan Quinn is going to bring for 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.840 this defense that at times lacked. In twenty twenty, we 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.480 looked at the defense and said, where is that energy? 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.480 It wasn't there, There was nothing, It was dead. And 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.520 now it took almost to what week nine against the 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.520 Eagles to finally see a little bit of a jolt, 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:56.840 or Week eight against the Eagles or whenever that game was, 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.080 to finally see a little bit of life out of 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.400 that defense. That's not gonna happen this year, at least 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.439 I don't think it will. Yeah, I think, you know, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.480 I know we're going back and forth. Heck between the 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.920 how important that deep as a coordinator, If that's the 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.480 greatest you know, pickup we've had, acquisition we've had this 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.520 off season, I would say yes, absolutely, hands down, without 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.560 a doubt. And yes, you you definitely need players obviously, right, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.600 you still gotta have talent. We can't. You can't just 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.280 have an amazing coach and just sucky talent, right what. 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.040 I don't think that we lack on talent on this 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.920 team on that side of the ball. I really don't. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:36.400 I think we lacked in awareness, execution, just talent. It's 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:40.560 not just talent, it's really not. It's confidence, right, and 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.200 not only that, it's wanting to play for your coach. So, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:45.840 I mean, you got plenty of people out there say, oh, 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.080 these guys are getting paid a lot of money, they 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.720 shouldn't have no motivation? True that guess whether that checks 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.320 coming regardless of that, coaches there or not. So here 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:53.919 you go. Sorry, you don't like to hear that. That 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.520 is what it is. Debt check's coming. So now what's 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.160 your motivation? Do you have a coach that you want 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.800 to play for? Do you have a coach that says 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.240 that that makes you want to give more when you're 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.440 going to receive the same check no matter what you do, 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.600 the check's coming. The check is coming. Now, what is 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.760 my motivation? Do I have somebody that I want to 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.479 go out there and be a dog for? Do I 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.720