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Speaker 1: as I did when I read the headline. George Stepanopolis

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Speaker 1: Trump and pay fifteen million to settle a defamation lawsuit

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Speaker 1: bringing the grand total sixteen million. That's amazing. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the part that's even more incredible than that. The money

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Speaker 1: also going to talk about today the radical left is

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Speaker 1: normalizing the either attempted assassinations on people like Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: normalizing this activity saying, well, we should understand why it's happening.

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Speaker 1: in a moment, and Democrats are also now saying that

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Speaker 1: the best political move that may have given Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: should say, technically sending illegal immigrants all over the country

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Speaker 2: On and on.

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Speaker 1: Now I am literally traveling up to New York on

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Speaker 1: And that is exactly what you're going to hear today,

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Speaker 1: because not only does Donald Trump have allies in the

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Speaker 1: he's getting into office, but he has allies like Senator

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Speaker 1: anarchy of the left, especially when it comes to this

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Speaker 1: just normalizing assassinating anybody you don't like. So with that

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Speaker 1: being said, we're gonna start with that big first story

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Speaker 1: about ABC News. Here is my conversation with Center Tech

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Speaker 1: Cruz about it. Center, I can't believe that I'm actually

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Speaker 1: getting to say this because it's just so funny, but

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Speaker 1: it's real. The President of the United States elect, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to get a an apology from ABC

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Speaker 1: News and George Stepanopolis on top of the fact they're

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Speaker 1: now forced to pay fifteen million dollars to settle a

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Speaker 3: It is truly astonishing. ABC News apologizing to Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and ABC News writing a fifteen million dollar check to

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Speaker 3: Trump's presidential library, all to settle a defamation case because

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Speaker 3: George Stephanopolis went on National TV and defamed Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and they're writing a check because of it. And if

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Speaker 3: you never thought it would happen, well it is. We

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Speaker 3: are in a brave, an extraordinary new world. We're going

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Speaker 3: to break it down and what it means. We're also

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Speaker 1: all this started from the very beginning for people that

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Speaker 1: that was said by George Stepanopolis on ABC News, and

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Speaker 1: they realize, I think pretty quick, okay, we screwed up

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Speaker 1: here because Trump won.

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Speaker 2: So now we got to deal with the consequences of this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they would have done it the same

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Speaker 3: Well, this stems back to March of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: and in particular March tenth on ABC News with George Stefanopolis,

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Speaker 3: and as part of this settlement, ABC News wrote a

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Speaker 3: committed to write a fifteen million dollar check a charitable

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Speaker 3: and Trump sued Stephanopolis for Stephanopolis repeatedly saying a jury

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Speaker 3: just repeatedly said he was liable for rape, liable for rape,

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Speaker 3: And Stephanopolis would be forced to say no, did you

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Speaker 1: So can we just talk about the humor of this

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Speaker 1: for a second, the fact that ABC News is going

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Speaker 1: to have to write a check for fifteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: to the Trump Presidential Library, Like, do you name part

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Speaker 1: of the library the ABC Settlement Center.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is amazing, It is truly astonishing.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, there's some lefty voices on Twitter saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: free speech is dead. Look, you need to understand, defamation

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Speaker 3: something that is deliberately false and deliberately defamatory. And it

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Speaker 3: has always been the case that you can be held

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Speaker 3: liable for slander or libel. Slander is saying it saying

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Speaker 3: it orally libel is saying it and writing. They're both

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Speaker 3: species of defamation. If you deliberately say something false. Is

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Speaker 3: that is harmful to the character or an other. And

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Speaker 3: think in this case, ABC realized they couldn't defend what

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about this administration coming in, you know,

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Speaker 1: January twentieth. And Look, we know that there was a

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Speaker 1: And it also made Stepanoplis very vulnerable, right. I think

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, And look, Dereck George Stephanopolis worked in

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Speaker 2: One thing's for sure.

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Speaker 4: in this country in this passage way, our privatized healthcare

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Speaker 4: system is like that for a huge amount of.

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Speaker 5: American Yeah, and look, we'll say it over and over.

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Speaker 2: Violence is never the answer.

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Speaker 6: This guy gets a trial who's allegedly killed the CEO

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Speaker 6: of United Health.

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Speaker 5: But you can only push people so far and.

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Speaker 2: Then they start to take matters into their own hands.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Elizabeth Warren obviously understands killing and murder and shooting

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Speaker 6: somebody in the back is totally unacceptable. But what I

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Speaker 6: think has happened in the last few months is that

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Speaker 6: what you have seen rising up is people's anger at

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Speaker 6: a health insurance industry which denies people the healthcare that

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Speaker 6: they desperately need while they.

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Speaker 2: Make billions and billions of dollars in profit.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you say something's terrible, but it means you're saying,

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Speaker 1: but we understand it. It okay, we get it, we

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Speaker 1: comprehend it. We see how you got from point A

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Speaker 1: to point B. We have video of a cold blooded

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Speaker 1: murderer who goes up and assassinates an individual, and they're

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Speaker 1: justifying the understanding of why it should be why he

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Speaker 1: and others are angry at all these healthcare seeears. This

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Speaker 1: is this is dehumanizing people who you don't like, the

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Speaker 1: same way they've done it with Trump.

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Speaker 2: It is so dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Look at it's exactly the same as with Trump. It's

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Speaker 3: exactly the same as these leftists have done with Hamas

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Speaker 3: on October seventh, where they'll all say in obligatory violence

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Speaker 3: is wrong. But then they immediately start justifying the violence.

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Speaker 3: And they immediately say, well, yes, the rape and murder

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Speaker 3: of twelve hundred is rarely said, that's wrong, But but

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Speaker 3: the Palestinians are oppressed, and we should celebrate the Palestinians

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Speaker 3: and is it wonderful? And then that's what the leftists do.

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Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, yes, murdering the guy was wrong,

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Speaker 3: I suppose, But you know what, every healthcare ceo needs

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Speaker 3: to be murdered, every CEO needs to be murdered, and

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Speaker 3: they immediately their ideology goes to celebrating violence. And let

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Speaker 3: me just once I would like to see someone on

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Speaker 3: the left be clear and unequivocal that violence is wrong,

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Speaker 3: period the end. This murder was grotesque, it was evil,

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Speaker 3: It was wrong. There is no justification for it whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Even if your political ideology, as you've decided, you hate

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Speaker 3: this healthcare ceo that you've never met. You don't know

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Speaker 3: what he's done, you don't know anything about him other

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Speaker 3: than that that he he was the CEO of a

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Speaker 3: healthcare company, And because your ideology is so railing against capitalism,

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Speaker 3: you think murder is a great thing. It's it's as

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Speaker 3: I said, it's the same. These are the same people

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Speaker 3: who buy coffee cups that say, you know, I wish

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Speaker 3: wish the guy in Butler, Pennsylvania hadn't missed because violence

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Speaker 3: is okay to them. These are the same people that

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Speaker 3: celebrated the Black Lives Matter ANTIFA riots. This is this

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Speaker 3: is Kamala Harris raising money to bail people out of

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Speaker 3: jail who are violent rioters. Because for today's radical left,

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Speaker 3: the ends justify the means, and violence is okay. And

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Speaker 3: I want to be absolutely clear, violence is never okay.

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Speaker 3: Whether I agree with your ideology or not. Nobody should

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Speaker 3: engage in violence against anyone else and if you do,

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Speaker 3: if you engage in violence, you should face serious consequences.

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Speaker 2: How much do you worry about this becoming normalized.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we got over to Donald trump first assassination

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Speaker 1: incredibly quick.

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Speaker 2: It was like, okay, it happened, but he's so live,

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Speaker 2: let's immediately move on.

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Speaker 1: Then we have another attempted assassination on him down at

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Speaker 1: his golf course and be like, well, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You kind of gotta expect this now. That

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Speaker 1: was the demeanor of many on the left. And then

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Speaker 1: there was part of the left, that is exactly as

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Speaker 1: you described it. They were like, well, the guy should

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Speaker 1: have not missed, and it was almost anger at the shooters.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the most shocking part to me is

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Speaker 1: we are dehumanizing people in a way that is now

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Speaker 1: putting other people lives at risk.

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Speaker 3: Well, and and for too many on the left, politics

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Speaker 3: is everything. It is life and death is identity. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I get to say politics is very

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Speaker 3: different than twelve years ago when I first got elected.

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Speaker 3: It's so nasty and personal. You know, we used to

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Speaker 3: be able to disagree without without hating each other, without

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Speaker 3: demonizing each other, with without cheering at at violence and

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Speaker 3: the murder of those you may disagree with. And unfortunately

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Speaker 3: I don't see a whole lot of public democrats speaking

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Speaker 3: out against this it. I wish we had more that

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Speaker 3: had the courage to speak out and say this is

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Speaker 3: unequivocally wrong. Look, well, this strange killer, his lawyers are

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Speaker 3: being paid for by leftists who are celebrating what he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the part I think that when I

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Speaker 1: look at this, I'm like, if you said this ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, fifteen years ago, you'd probably have people calling

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Speaker 1: for you to resign of all the people we just payed.

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Speaker 1: That's not happening. There would have been like reporters saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: like you need to answer for this these you know,

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Speaker 1: these statements that you made, do you want to clarify

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Speaker 1: them or clean them up. There's none of that this time.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, of course it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: You know it is. It is the reality of where

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Speaker 3: we are today.

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Speaker 2: It's sad.

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Speaker 1: I pray for this country and I hope that at

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Speaker 1: some point people will start to reject this type of

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Speaker 1: rhetoric and not normalize it like we are like it

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Speaker 1: like it's happened. So far, there are over eight hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand Americans that are members of the USCCA. Why well,

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Speaker 1: because of what you receive when you're a member. I've

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Speaker 1: had to carry a firearm and I've had to pull

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Speaker 1: the trigger, and i had to save my life one night,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so thankful that I was able to exercise

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Speaker 1: my second member. Writer, I wouldn't be here talking to

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Speaker 1: you right now. But what I will tell you that

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Speaker 1: is even more shocking than that is now our twisted

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Speaker 1: legal system, especially with activist das, are wanting to put

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Speaker 1: law abiding citizens who exercise their Second Amendment rights just

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Speaker 1: like you behind bars because they cannot stand that so

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Speaker 1: many of us carry a firearm. Well, you've got to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself and protect your Second Amendment rights, and you

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Speaker 1: don't want to lose everything because you actually had to

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Speaker 1: save your own life or the life of someone in danger.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I want you to join the USCCA,

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Speaker 1: because not only do you get access to their Protect

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Speaker 1: Your Academy where you learn vital skills like precision shooting

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Speaker 1: and how to fortify your home against criminals, but you

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Speaker 1: also get access to the twenty four to seven Critical

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Speaker 1: Response Team and the included benefit of the Self Defense

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Speaker 1: Liability Insurance to make sure you and your family are

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Speaker 1: prepared for anything. Now, I also want to give you

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Speaker 1: a chance to win something amazing.

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Speaker 2: You can win.

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Speaker 1: Right now any seventeen hundred dollars to buy any self

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Speaker 1: defense gear that you need before it's too late. How

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Speaker 1: do you do it? Text the word America to eight

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Speaker 1: seven two two two right now. It's text the word

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Speaker 1: get the uscca's free life saving Concealed Carry and Family

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Speaker 1: Defense god and a chance to win seventeen hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: to binding self defense gear that you need before it's

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Speaker 1: too late. So texta word America eight seven two to two.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Finally, Senator, this is another story and the

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Speaker 1: media is trying to figure this out. The Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: is trying to figure it out. How do we lose

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Speaker 1: this last selection? What caused it was it really our

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Speaker 1: policy on migrants and illegal immigrants. And there was a

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Speaker 1: very interesting conversation that took place, and people even on

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Speaker 1: the leftwik is this aha moment? And I laughed because

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Speaker 1: it's something that you actually said on this show a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Jessica Tarlove and Katie Curic, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about JP governors sending illegal immigrants to other parts

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Speaker 1: of the country from border states, and I want to

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Speaker 1: play this for people's and they specifically, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: Rod DeSantis in Florida, Greg Abbot in Texas and this

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Speaker 1: is what they said.

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Speaker 2: In reaction on.

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Speaker 5: The immigration front, there was a tendency amongst Democrats, and

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Speaker 5: especially Democrats were discussing the issue of people who do

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Speaker 5: interviews are part of the media to minimize it. Over

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Speaker 5: the first two and a half years, when there were

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Speaker 5: a lot of people coming in here, and I thought

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Speaker 5: that it was a stunt. You know, when they started

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Speaker 5: bussing migrants, they go to markets, vineyards. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 5: the smartest thing they ever did.

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Speaker 7: What was interesting because I have a friend who lives

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Speaker 7: in Florida, and I said, what did you think of

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Speaker 7: of Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbot taking some of these

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Speaker 7: immigrants and moving them to Northern States? And she said,

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Speaker 7: I thought it was great because nobody really was paying

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Speaker 7: attention before that. And I do think that this untold

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Speaker 7: old story was the strain on social services and communities,

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Speaker 7: particularly along the border, this influx, huge influx of immigrants

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Speaker 7: was having and I think the mainstream media, however you

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Speaker 7: define that these days, kind of ignored that story to

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Speaker 7: its peril.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, right, like at least they're figuring it out.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that all the media is

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Speaker 1: figuring out, but it is pretty funny they figured out

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Speaker 1: the only problem is they were just a couple of

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Speaker 1: years too late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look at striking to hear Kati Kuric admitting that now,

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Speaker 3: as you know, this was an idea that I suggested

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Speaker 3: three years ago. In October of twenty twenty one, I

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Speaker 3: introduced a bill called the Surge Act. And the Surge

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Speaker 3: Act was designed to create thirteen new ports of entry

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Speaker 3: to send illegal immigrants. And here's here's what my press

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Speaker 3: really said at the time. If Washington Democrats had to

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Speaker 3: endure even a fraction of the suffering South Texas families,

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Speaker 3: far farmer, ranchers and small businesses have had to face,

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Speaker 3: our nation's immigration laws would be in force. The wall

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Speaker 3: would be built and remain in Mexico. Policy would be implemented.

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Speaker 3: And so I introduced legislation to change the points of

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Speaker 3: entry and add thirteen new places. Block Island, Rhode Island, Greenwich, Connecticut,

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Speaker 3: Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Governor's Island, New York, Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, Nantucket, Massachusetts, Newport,

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Speaker 3: Rhode Island, Scarsdale, New York, Palo Alto, California, Yuntville, California,

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Speaker 3: Saint Helena, California, and North Hero, Vermont, which is where

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Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders vacations. And the idea was all the places

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Speaker 3: where rich liberals sit and sip chardonnay and look down

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Speaker 3: on people concerned about the open borders. And it was

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Speaker 3: really striking at the time I introduced this legislation, the

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Speaker 3: leftist media went crazy, and in fact, the county executive

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Speaker 3: at Martha's Vineyard attacked me, attacked me by name, and

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Speaker 3: he said Cruise doesn't understand immigration, and he said we

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Speaker 3: and Martha's Vineyard would welcome illegal immigrants. Well, several months later,

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott took me up on what

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Speaker 3: I had suggested, and they did exactly that. They sent

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Speaker 3: fifty illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard. And of course that

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Speaker 3: same county executive within twenty four hours declared an emergency

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Speaker 3: and ended up deporting the fifty who had been sent.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you we actually covered this on Verdict

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Speaker 3: several years ago. So I want you to play an

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Speaker 3: old segment from Verdict. This is actually pre pre the

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Speaker 3: great Ben Ferguson. This is back when when Michael Noles

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Speaker 3: and I were doing it.

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Speaker 1: Our good friend. Yeah, yes, the voice is about to

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Speaker 1: change a little bit, right.

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Speaker 3: But this is us talking about it three years ago,

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Speaker 3: and it had a bit of foreshadowing.

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Speaker 2: So give a listen.

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Speaker 8: They've just sent airplanes full of illegal aliens to Martha's Vineyard.

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Speaker 8: And I cheered when I saw the headline, and then

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Speaker 8: I had to think, you know, there's a certain podcast

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Speaker 8: calling exactly for that for many weeks now, and I

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Speaker 8: just can't help but wonder if that may have had

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Speaker 3: I was thrilled when the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott,

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Speaker 3: took me up on the idea and began sending illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 3: first to d C, then to New York, then to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: It's had a fantastic event as these Democratic mayors have

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Speaker 3: Of course, we've had since Joe Biden became president, we

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Speaker 8: It is horrific. That's a crazy number. Four point two million.

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Speaker 8: That is a crazy number. It is larger than many

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Speaker 8: of the states of our Union. I mean, four point

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Speaker 8: Bible and took the oath of office, that's what's come

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Speaker 8: and it continues to get worse. And what is amazing

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Speaker 8: about when red state governors, first Texas now Florida are

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Speaker 8: shipping to blue strongholds is the Democrats, who talk a

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Speaker 8: good game immediately flipped tailed. So I want to give

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Speaker 8: you a quote on the from Martha's Vineyard. When I

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Speaker 8: introduced the legislation, you had Democrats, democrats, and the House

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Speaker 8: of Representatives slamm me. But I want to read from

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Speaker 8: the county commissioner of Martha's Vineyard, Keith Chattenover, and here's

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Speaker 8: the quote he said about my legislation. I would love

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Speaker 8: to see Martha's Vineyard become a haven for new immigrants

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Speaker 8: in the country. But Senator Cruz has no idea what

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Speaker 8: he's talking about regarding a border crisis. He went on

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Speaker 8: to say, immigrants make our country stronger, as evidenced by

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Speaker 8: he is trying to whip up racial anxieties for political gain,

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Speaker 8: which is essentially the entire GOP platform. Anyhow, that's before

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Speaker 8: they arrived. I want to see if after two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 8: six ' ten, one hundred planeloads or bus loads, if

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Speaker 1: Three years ago you said that, Senator, and now we're

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Speaker 1: seeing that Democrats are actually saying, man, this was really effective,

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Speaker 1: Like this was really really effective. You did this as

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Speaker 1: stopped the Surge Act in October twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, three years ago, notice that number

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Speaker 3: four point two million illegal immigrants were now over twelve million.

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Speaker 3: What has happened at our southern border is an experiment

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Speaker 3: in radicalism that has never been tried in the United

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Speaker 3: planeloads and bus loads of illegal immigrants to Blue strongholds.

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Speaker 3: It showed the complete and utter hypocrisy as every Democrat mayor,

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Speaker 3: every Democrat governor, every Democrat county executive completely demonstrated everything

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Speaker 3: they'd been saying was a lie, and it broke through

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Speaker 3: the media freeze out in a way nothing else did.

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Speaker 3: I think Katie Kirk's right that that single action of

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Speaker 3: demonstrating Democrat hypocrisy on this issue could well have decided

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