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Speaker 2: I know, Jenny miss, I just didn't want to work

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Speaker 2: a nine to five, y'all, Like I just didn't like

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Speaker 2: nine to five. That thing bothered my soul. But this

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Speaker 2: thing felt good. So it started with poetry, which is

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Speaker 2: why I'm still like, if I don't have anything to say,

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Speaker 2: I can't sing anything.

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Speaker 2: The words matter so much to me, and they give

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Speaker 2: got my feelings hurt some boy, and I wrote a

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Speaker 2: my god, I was. I read another one, so I

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Speaker 2: hearing about poetry readings, and I thought, Okay, I'll go.

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Speaker 2: I'll get on the list, and then I'll read a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it went great. I was like, okay, I'll do

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Speaker 2: this again. This is fun. This is fun. I get

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Speaker 2: Who was not vincent, and I was not vincent. We

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Speaker 2: next day I was like, there's really know other words,

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Speaker 2: I was fucked up, like fucked up because North Philly

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Speaker 2: Crack addicts knew me, drug dealers knew me. They carried

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Speaker 2: But somehow I wasn't afraid, But now I was. So

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Speaker 2: I got up to say a poem and I sang

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Speaker 2: sang poorgy and bess what's the name of the song? Summertime?

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Speaker 4: So you're doing all of your own artist development, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yes, but audit but yeah, yeah, full audit in front

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you leave in three days to go do

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Speaker 2: Rent in Canada. I've never been out of the country

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Speaker 3: How much you say? You say.

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Speaker 3: Rent was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: It was enough for me, but it was good and

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. And then they asked me if I

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Speaker 2: There is a gift of discipline in theater that I

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Speaker 2: it's amazing one or the other you feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If I'm broke, I might be on Broadway that sounds wild,

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Speaker 2: the same clothes, saying the same thing, almost the same way.

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Speaker 2: You didn't experience that, God bless you didn't. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I had to choose between I know I jumped,

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I chose the record. Yeah. I've been waiting

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this. I don't know what's going

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Speaker 2: I have an album coming.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, shout out to a new album. Yes, shot

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Speaker 2: Yes, I said would have said, I met what it meant,

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Speaker 2: and I'm really proud of that. I'm really proud of that.

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Speaker 2: But I've been waiting for this. This is this is

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Speaker 2: the age I've been waiting for. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Honestly God, light skinned girls in North Philly had to

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Speaker 2: My cousin's a hairdresser. She does some hair. She keeps

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Speaker 2: not going to happen ever. Ever, Ever, when you went

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Speaker 2: go go.

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Speaker 1: I used to be in a go go band. What yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used to play keys in a go go bed

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Speaker 2: I tried, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Man, I tried.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have any like go go percussionists, so I

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Speaker 2: It just made it worked it, you know. So it

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Speaker 2: But DC loved it. The DMV was like, girl, we

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Speaker 3: That audience, I wish I could have seen him storing

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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know what it's supposed to go on

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Speaker 2: for like ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you do that for fifteen if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was great. Hot twenty that was great.

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Speaker 2: It's love had been like four different things. And then

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Speaker 2: I was just I love the lyrics. I love the lyrics.

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Speaker 2: I love how it felt. But it just didn't land

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Speaker 2: on anything yet. And I was like, well, let's try

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Speaker 2: go go.

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Speaker 3: But had you had you been to go go once?

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Speaker 3: It's different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you come out with your hair sweating out, your

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Speaker 4: You you thought I was from out there. We went

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Speaker 4: out there for a big take a weekend. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: I ain't leaving.

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Speaker 6: Man what.

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Speaker 3: They want to go?

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Speaker 6: Go?

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Speaker 3: That's a mumbo sau.

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Speaker 2: You look like a DC Nigga author there Ca you're Campa. Hell.

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Speaker 4: No, I ain't go to college.

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Speaker 3: It looks like finished born in the game.

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Speaker 4: We don't enjoy gangs in college.

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Speaker 2: Gang. You were born in a game.

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Speaker 4: My family is one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we just about the ship, so yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 5: We don't go to college and join gangs. I've done

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Speaker 5: well for myself. I'm singing up man.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I like that. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to live my life like

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Speaker 4: it's gold.

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Speaker 3: And say I want to be there.

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Speaker 4: Everybody has a part to playing it and it's very important.

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Speaker 2: It's it's feast or famine. And when it's famine, Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 3: You know what you want to talk about that you

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Speaker 5: Oh Lord Jesus, she didn't watch your episodes, and you

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Speaker 3: I've been in some famines.

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Speaker 2: And look at you, Oh look at me now.

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Speaker 1: I remember being in a stolen rental car, using money

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, what more than a towe been there?

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Speaker 3: More than to be there?

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Speaker 3: They want to know some of the people and music

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Speaker 3: They want to know. They feeling a Broadway.

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Speaker 4: I don't forget Canada.

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Speaker 3: Why you can be this too? Before we know your

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Speaker 6: Jasp you.

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Speaker 3: Sister Jills is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Man, your choices are crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's only wonderful.

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Speaker 2: They talked about you all over the internet. They talk it,

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Speaker 2: saying boy that damn dank he could sing a song

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Speaker 2: and that is no lie, no, lie, my goodness.

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Speaker 3: I received this, You're top five R and B singer.

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought about that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot you wrote.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's different, Okay, no order right, nope, Frankie Beverly

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Speaker 2: don't know, man, I was supposed to have his baby.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know that, but that was in my mind

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Speaker 2: as a young person. We are one, we should have

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Speaker 2: been one. D'Angelo, Yes, yep, absolutely, that voice, those choices,

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Speaker 2: So I don't think there's aka is there?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't you know. They all kings

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Speaker 1: When I heard D'Angelo, life changing, absolutely life changing yep.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just you know you, you know you you

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Speaker 2: Kings. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: that makes sense. He's changed things. He changed things and

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Speaker 2: I didn't say hops. Yeah, so yeah, I guess so,

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Speaker 2: I guess he would be the king he ushered. He

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Speaker 1: Through like it was like as a church kid and

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Speaker 3: I want to be.

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Speaker 1: and grounded like that. Life changing. Still nothing like it

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Speaker 1: to this day.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: Nope. Even from the beginning when you listen to his

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Speaker 3: It's not close. Nope.

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Speaker 2: far as R and B. Like he could do so

442
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: many kinds of music, obviously, and he can play so

443
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: many instruments, but you know, nothing compares to you that

444
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: level of guts put into it. International lover, what is that?

445
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm going to pour sex into a

446
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: song and I'm going to stir it gently, and he did.

447
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: There you go, ah, wonderful. I listened to Under the

448
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Cherry Moon for four years straight. I don't know, it's

449
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: the only time I listened to one thing for that

450
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: long four years straight. I love, love, love, love love

451
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: that album. I know every nuance of it. I think

452
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: it's a perfect work. Love that album al Green, which

453
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: I listened to all morning.

454
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: Your list.

455
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: I know what you're yeah, yeah, you gotta say a

456
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: thing for me. I love a good singer, I really do,

457
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: and so many different kinds of great vocalists. But I

458
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: need you. You gotta say something to me. Please say something,

459
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: And how you put a phrase, how you oh, please,

460
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: please please. It's the writer and me. The writer requires

461
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: to be titillated. And the last one as wv mmm Yep,

462
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: they're on my wall. They're on my wall. That cassette. Cassette, Yeah,

463
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: that cassette. I listened to it faithfully and every day

464
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: for I don't know, a couple of years at least,

465
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: and even now when I listen to it now, I'm like, damn,

466
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: that's good.

467
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: So that's my favorite. That's my favorite.

468
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: They're so good and they're still what working, still working,

469
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: They're still working. That counts. Yeah, that's that's my five

470
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: favorite R and B artists today. Give me somebody else

471
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: tomorrow because it's so much good stuff. Very grateful for that.

472
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. R and B Top five R and B songs.

473
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Fire and Desire m M. Tina Marie Rick, James Rick.

474
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: One of the coldest, very good.

475
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Very very good. He knows how to tap into something

476
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: that's both pastor and pimp at the same time.

477
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: It's dangerous, lovely heavy, heavy as both of those two things,

478
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: and come on, very dangerous.

479
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Use your powers for good, Tina Marie.

480
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: Oh.

481
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: One of the best moments of like top five moments

482
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: of my life. I was rolling around in a cabriolet

483
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: in Paris and it was midnight. Fire and Desire came on,

484
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: and when Tina Marie did her first big note. The

485
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: first thing she said, the Eiffel Tower lit up, and I.

486
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Was like, lovey, I could do is you're saying that?

487
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: I see it.

488
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: It was wonderful and.

489
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: I need that.

490
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: Rain.

491
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: W Why not?

492
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: So well written, so well executed, all of it as well, perfect.

493
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: All of it as well. Adore ye listen Jesus Christ,

494
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: this is incredible. Do you like it? I love it?

495
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

496
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: About to listen to a letter that's a whole revolution.

497
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Love me in a special way?

498
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

499
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is great?

500
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: Be right?

501
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: What more can I say? What more can I say?

502
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: That's right?

503
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: Love me now?

504
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's how you do a damn thing? Is it

505
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: the way?

506
00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, you're damn right.

507
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: I think it's very well executed. I appreciate how how

508
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: the the words worked.

509
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: You did good. I think so you did.

510
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: I think so that's song. You can't like, you cannot

511
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: you know, got the double negatives, but you can't nott smile.

512
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: You have to show.

513
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: I think it's because it's the woke. I think the

514
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: whoe has something to do with it. I'm not sure.

515
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: I breakfast guy, that's what she did.

516
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: She got up the breakfast.

517
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, simple man, what and grits and the way you

518
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 5: sang grits that's why you said that though you said

519
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: it was made it that song felt like a live recording.

520
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: Hm hmmm, Drane b.

521
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: Dal felt like you were.

522
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: At one of your poetry houses and you were saying me,

523
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I got I got something special.

524
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: I wanted to for y'all and you sing that that's

525
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: what it feels like.

526
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

527
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: That's nice and that's missing.

528
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Who ooh.

529
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: It is.

530
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: I think you should write for other artists too.

531
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: I would love to.

532
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: I think you should, absolutely, because they some more Jill

533
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: Scott songs on more artists too. Because it wouldn't just

534
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 5: come with the song. It would come with It would

535
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: come with a healing, It would come with teaching, It

536
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: would come with information, and it would come with.

537
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: It would come with this level of you know what

538
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like they would you would learn so like yeah,

539
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: just if you well, I.

540
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Would want to know what was going on in their lives.

541
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: I would want to know what they wanted to talk about.

542
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: I will want to know what affected them deeply. I

543
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: would I would probably want to have meals and you know,

544
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: I want to know so that I could write something

545
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: because whatever I write, you're gonna be singing this for

546
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: the rest of your lie fa yep for that, like

547
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: is it's the way it's like, you know, twenty six

548
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: years later, Oh my god, and people are still karaoke

549
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: in that level.

550
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: You better have aunts.

551
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they better sing it and doing it so good.

552
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: I gotta come and go. Yeah, yeah, I know it's girls.

553
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: It's all right. Yes, I love I love hearing what

554
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: people are doing with it. It's good. I just recently

555
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: like added or took.

556
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 6: M M.

557
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't know which one it is, but I changed

558
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: it a little. I think that when the words are good,

559
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what you do with the music. That

560
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: you can change the music because the words are solid

561
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: and you create another feeling out of some a feeling

562
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: which is fun. I think it's a lot of fun.

563
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Some people that irks their soul, you know, like sing

564
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: it the way I but I am, But I am.

565
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, I might not, I might not be for everybody,

566
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: but who I'm for I'm really, really really for. Yes, good,

567
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: it's good life