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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September twentieth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number twenty four. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break. We're life from the SWUBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star and we get to rehash the very first

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Speaker 1: Cowboys win of the season. Cowboys win twenty seventeen to

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Speaker 1: the LA Chargers at a really great stadium and probably

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Speaker 1: even more up a great stadium for the Cowboys. When

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Speaker 1: you when you look at that stadium, Nick I was

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Speaker 1: mentioning to you, I thought it looked like an AT

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Speaker 1: and T Stadium two point zero because there were so

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Speaker 1: many things about it that reminded me of AT and

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Speaker 1: T stadium. But the other part that reminding me of

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Speaker 1: AT and T stadiums. There are a lot of Cowboys

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Speaker 1: fans there, a ton of Cowboys fans Theah. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason Jerry Jones gets so excited about LA and

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Speaker 1: playing on the West Coast. He knows, he knows who's

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Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, I mean, there is no there's no

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Speaker 1: mistaking the fact that the Cowboys spend every summer in

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Speaker 1: California because that bills over time. That justs fans. Imagine

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Speaker 1: the behind the scenes conversations where here he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need teams in LA. We need to showcase this place,

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Speaker 1: and I'll dominate the venue every time we come. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Nick, you actually had an interesting point

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Speaker 1: you were making about the about the on the radio

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Speaker 1: this morning. You were making about the crowd. Well, I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, at first, I thought, man, they didn't NFL

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Speaker 1: didn't do them any favors, the Chargers by putting, you know,

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Speaker 1: the how Boys for their first game with fans. But

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Speaker 1: you know, really, when you when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: and I also kind of heard through the Grape Bunk,

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Speaker 1: you know, they don't didn't sell all their suits and

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Speaker 1: they had a heart. They're having a hard time. We

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Speaker 1: know that where they have a hard time with their

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Speaker 1: with their fan base, just generating fans. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: they're battling another team team, a team that's been in

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Speaker 1: LA for you know, for years, back in the you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe they did it on purpose, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you think you can take this big global picture and

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Speaker 1: it's like a lot of blue, you know, silver, a

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Speaker 1: lot of light blue all that. But it's gonna look

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look blend in, it's gonna look great, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna full and all that. I mean, imagine if they

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Speaker 1: put the Chiefs in there for for you know, week

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Speaker 1: you know, then to have a great venue there, and

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Speaker 1: it was it was a great atmosphere you're in there

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Speaker 1: listening to it. It was it was like a bowl game.

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Speaker 1: To me. It was just fifty fifty, sixty forty, whatever

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Speaker 1: and they were definitely louder if there wasn't. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was one of those games where you look at

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Speaker 1: can't really get we couldn't get a real appreciation for

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Speaker 1: just how loud the crowd was, because obviously in the

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Speaker 1: press box it's a little walled off. But there were

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Speaker 1: moments that you could hear go let's go Cowboys, Let's

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Speaker 1: that felt like it was a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: home advantage for the Cowboys. Absolutely. I mean you should

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Speaker 1: have expected it. I did my writing from the hotel

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Speaker 1: you do some writing, That's what I'm talking. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: He bought Dallas from Bakers. He bought season tickets. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: just for that game. Charger season. Wait's Charger season. Wow,

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Speaker 1: So let's do this. I want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: I want you used to give me one big picture,

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Speaker 1: What is that one thing that you'll remember from this game?

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you day Two things that kind of

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Speaker 1: So that's important and it felt big to me. But

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Speaker 1: because I don't they don't do that to other people.

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Speaker 1: You know, let Herbert be an athlete and he's up

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Speaker 1: the game kind of settled into more of oh, I'm

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00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: not gonna say rhythm. That game had no rhythm at all.

427
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 1: Twenty freaking penalties. It was. It was gross at times,

428
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 1: but um, I just it just felt like the charges

429
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: were like, all right, we need every possession to last

430
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: eight minutes, and so bland call on first down, bland

431
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: call on second down, justin get out there, and bail

432
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: us out on third down. And it worked way more

433
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: often than you'd probably prefer, especially on third and long.

434
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 1: They were not supposed to be converting at that rate,

435
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: and at one point in the game they had converted

436
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: four of six third and ten plush situations and that's

437
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: that's not something you should be seeing no on any

438
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 1: NFL set field. But I thought he played great within

439
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: the confines, and that's can we make this a weekly thing?

440
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: We've done it two for two both games. Like last possession,

441
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: Derek looks at me in the press box, He's like,

442
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen now? I'm like, Dak is going to

443
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 1: lead them to field goal range. There is no doubt

444
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: in my mind about that. My big question was can

445
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: they kick this field goal and not leave Herbert anytime?

446
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: And it was way more of a cluster f than

447
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: it should have been, but it worked out. Yeah. All right,

448
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: let's move on to the next topic I have for

449
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh, actually talking on that, we didn't talk

450
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: about Terren Steele. Let's talk about Bosa had three tackles

451
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: on the day, no sacks, no quarterback hits. So how

452
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: well to Steel play and how much help did they

453
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: give him? No, we're not going there. I mean, he

454
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: might have got a little bit of help, but not

455
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: more so than any other right tackle kind of gets

456
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: You're sure about that. Well, in the post game, McCarthy said,

457
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: we paid a ton of attention to him, and I

458
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: haven't been able to go back and watch it to

459
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: be able to see how much. But the way he

460
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: made a sound was like we definitely made it a

461
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: point that he was not going to just be left

462
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Speaker 1: out there on the night. They I mean, they gave

463
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: him some help. Zeke had some really nice chips. The

464
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: tight ends helped. And also again going back to Dak

465
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: playing within the confines, he was getting the ball out.

466
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, very short routes, quick decisions this week before. Yeah,

467
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have these long, slow developing plays like

468
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: we saw from Herbert Um. But I think I just

469
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to take credit away from Terrenceton because

470
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 1: all week it was doom and gloom. And I'm not

471
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we believed in Terrence Steele, but

472
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: people are just like, well, he's gonna get Dak killed.

473
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: And he was great, he was wonderful. He deserves some flowers.

474
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: He was he deserves some flowers. I mean he was

475
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Martin said after the game, he said,

476
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: there's some times where we have the center slide protections

477
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: to the right where you know, I get my guy

478
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: and I kind of go and help him. He goes

479
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: and most of the time he didn't even need he

480
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: didn't need the help. I thought. Where we thought Terrence

481
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: Steele was a lot more of an agile, athletic offensive

482
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: tackle that could could handle you knows athleticism, he actually

483
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: overpowered him more with his blocking. And go back and

484
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: look at that touchdown that Zeke had, the Zeke touchdown

485
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: where I mean that whole right side, it's Zack Martin.

486
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: And let's also say Zach Martin played a phenomenal game.

487
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: Who's surprised, No, not me, But I mean he played

488
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: a masterful game. And I thought having him there just

489
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: solidified everything. But Terrence Steele, Zack Martin on that touchdown

490
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: run just really dominated. He did a nice job and

491
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: the running game as well, yea. And I mean that

492
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: was not in any way to take a slide at him,

493
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: because I think he played really well. By the way,

494
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: there were a lot of times last year when they

495
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: gave him help and it didn't turn out great. So

496
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: I think he did his job yesterday, and that's a

497
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: part of coaching the right way. Maybe the first time

498
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: I've seen from the Cowboys in a long time. You know,

499
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: you hear all the time that next man up. Like yesterday,

500
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: they had a lot of people saying next man up

501
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: and by the way, and we're gonna get into a

502
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: lot of those other guys as well. But we saw

503
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: a lot of guys actually taking that mantra seriously yesterday

504
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: and actually being able to fill in in those roles

505
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: and play at a higher, higher level. I mean, everybody

506
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: that was called on in that situation did something. Darn

507
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: Steele was great. Cedric Wilson had that wonderful I thought

508
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: he might have scored if he had cut the other

509
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: way on that of a run though, absolutely awesome. Michael

510
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: Parsons did his Thingum we'll get to jail in a

511
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: little bit, and they kind of mentioned him. I think

512
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys yesterday that played well

513
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: beyond what you may have thought of them. But they

514
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: had to in order to get this team to where

515
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: they were going to get the win. Let's move on

516
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: to the to the next topic, the Charger defense. A

517
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: lot one hundred and twenty four rush yards in week

518
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: one and Dallas never really got their rush established. Does

519
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: Dallas take advantage of the run this week? That was

520
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: the question going in. Obviously we don't need to spend

521
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: time on that, right, but Tony Pollard goes thirteen carries

522
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: four hundred and nine yards and a touchdown, three catches

523
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: for thirty one yards. Then Zeke at sixteen carries for

524
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: seventy one yards and a touchdown, two catches for twenty

525
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: six yards. My question for you guys is what are

526
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the way they're sharing the responsibilities, because

527
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: we even noticed in week one, this is not a

528
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: situation where you got a series where you'll bring in

529
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Pollard and spell Zeke and then your back to Zeke

530
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: like they are really using these guys interchangeably at this point.

531
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that distribution of carries. I

532
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: think it's absolutely wonderful and it's been baffling me to

533
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: me forever that the Cowboys weren't better at it like

534
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: you look at I mean, it's been a few years

535
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: at this point, but New Orleans would just rotate Kamara

536
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: and Ingram on the same drive on the same possession,

537
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, and get them both on the field. Maybe not,

538
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's Ingram for two or three players, then Kamara

539
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys are always like, well, this is

540
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: the Alfred Morris possession. It's the third possession of the hat. Like,

541
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: no folks boring, whether that the banana the tail fight. Yeah.

542
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: So I just I thought it was great that they

543
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: what they are doing with these guys is phenomenal and

544
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the Dalton Schultz Blake jar Went

545
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: thing like who's the start one? Who cares? They're both good.

546
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard's too good to be on the bench as

547
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: we see, and you should be encouraged as a Cowboy

548
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: fan that it doesn't seem like the politics of contract

549
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: side is getting in the way of that. I mean,

550
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: it would be easy to say that Zeke needs to

551
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: be on the field because he makes fifteen million dollars

552
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: a year, and for some reason, I think there's some

553
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: people that are offended by that. Is like, well, so

554
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: you needs to be touching the ball more because he

555
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: makes one no whatever, like that money's spent. What we

556
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: can have. That's a separate conversation. But in the season,

557
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: when winning is all that matters. I just want good

558
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: players on the field side. I don't care about that.

559
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Very encouraged that they don't seem to care either. Well,

560
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: fans don't ever care that that you're that d made

561
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: two million dollars a year. We're going to the Pro

562
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: Bowls a quarterback, and no one cares that Tony Pollard's

563
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: contracts one million a year. I mean, it is what

564
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, is it even that much. She's

565
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. I think he's I mean, I

566
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: think he's got like a yeah. I mean, I think

567
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: I think his his salary cap charges about him. His

568
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: salary might not be that, but yeah, overall, he's like

569
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: a three million dollar guy. You're getting budget there, you

570
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: get yeah, yeah, you're you're getting I thought I thought

571
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Zeke had a nice game too. He had a couple

572
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: of runs. He had a run that was about to

573
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: tweet out and then back through a pick. But it

574
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: was the eight yard run right before that interception where

575
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, it was a really good vintage

576
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: Zeke type run. Everything going left, he looks back, sees

577
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: a hole, cuts it back, puts his foot in the

578
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: ground and gets good. You know, he got hit about

579
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: four yards but carried it till eight. I mean, I

580
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: thought that was a very good Zeke type of run.

581
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: And then the interception came. But um, I thought he

582
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: had a He had a really good game too. But

583
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: Pollard just on the edge, I mean, he was, he

584
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: was dynamic. It's one of the I'm sick of it.

585
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: It's such a huge cliche. We got to find a

586
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: better There's there's another nickname out there besides thunder and lightning.

587
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: There has to be, because it's the only nickname anybody's

588
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: ever been able to come up with over the last

589
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: like twenty five years. But kind kind of what's happening here.

590
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: I do think there is a value twenty Okay, what

591
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty one makes more sense? It does well.

592
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: Zeke makes more money, so he should be there. Whatever. Uh,

593
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: it's it's a nice combo. I actually I didn't hear

594
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: this before the game, but I was talking to Brad

595
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: Sham afterward. I guess Staley again coached the Rams in

596
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Week one last year in that empty stadium. He was like,

597
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you can feel it from the sideline, like when Zeke

598
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: is carrying the ball, just like the impact when he's

599
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: just hammering people, and I do think that matters. Yea,

600
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is more explosive than he is. It is

601
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: what is. But again, these are not these are not

602
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: bad things. These are good things. Twenty twenty one is good.

603
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: That's the year they're in. I thought, yeah, I just

604
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: I think they go great in tandem. And I love

605
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: that Callen Moore realizes that Tony Pollard is a guy

606
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: who needs to have his number. I love the touchdown call,

607
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: the sweep around, you know, the first touchdown to Pollard

608
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: where it was just he was in motion and they

609
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: just gave it to him. We thought later on there

610
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: might be a fake one and they would play off

611
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: of that. But I love that that play because they're

612
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: best player on defense, Joey Bosa. They didn't block him.

613
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: They just said I'm gonna run full speed. I mean,

614
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: it's basically an arena football type of play where the

615
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: guy's going in full full speed but he's just in

616
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: motion and he's coming around the corner and it's like,

617
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: we're not gonna block Bosa. He's gonna get up the

618
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: field and he's gonna go one on one and he's

619
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: not even gonna touch him because he doesn't have the

620
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: momentum going his way. You know, it's just kind of

621
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: weird when you think about it. You block him, you

622
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: block him. Bosa will won't even mess with him because

623
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Pollard would get around him, and he did. Yea. Yeah.

624
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing. I think it's really great

625
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to serve them well as

626
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: they get later in the season because they'll have two

627
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: options there at running back, so they can kind of

628
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: interchange those guys or if you get an injury there,

629
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: you still have somebody that usually feel very confident. No

630
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: disrespect of Cedric Wilson, thought he played a really good game,

631
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: but I think going into the game, it was like,

632
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, the next man up, it was basically Pollard

633
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: as that next playmaker. Do you think that was it

634
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: or do you think it was a game that that

635
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: this game plan call for just more runs, and so

636
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: they were like, instead of having Zeke run thirty times,

637
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: let's use them both interchange because we know we're gonna

638
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: run the ball a ton, right, and that and that

639
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: happened and that's probably why it led to it. But

640
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they're figuring out how to get

641
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Speaker 1: pollared involved. I do think they when when they're in

642
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: the game plan meetings, especially in a week where Michael

643
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: Gallup's not available, they're talking about Tony before they talk

644
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: about et Cedric, like, we've got to find touches for twenty.

645
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out for number One's fine, he didn't

646
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: that one play where he was we even through for

647
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: a second it looked like he might make it all

648
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: the way just the way he had gotten through the line.

649
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: If he had cut it left to the sideline. It's

650
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: hard to ever say if you're going to score because

651
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: everybody in the NFL is so fast, but he had

652
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: there was another thirty yards of real estate there. Yeah,

653
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not hating on the guy it was. Yeah,

654
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: that's that's the fun of having that kind of angled

655
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: view from like we're almost in the end zone and

656
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: you can see the lanes so much better than you

657
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: do on the TV comment or then you could see

658
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: when you're actually on the field running with the ball,

659
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: like it's yeah, it's easy for us to say, well,

660
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: if you'd to cut back here, well, yeah, very like

661
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: that three hundred pound freak was bearing down on me.

662
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Did you not see that? Sorry? That's all I saw.

663
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on. Let's talk a little

664
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: bit about the defense. Uh, he was the thought I

665
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: had last week. Both starting defensive ends were presumably out.

666
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: They were out. Does Dallas find a way to get pressure?

667
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: And how Dallas did end up getting two sacks? But

668
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: he was the interesting part from me. He had nine

669
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: quarterback hits. He hit him a lot yesterday. How do

670
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: you think they did from a standpoint of just their

671
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: pass rush and how much it could affect the game?

672
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, just in the cut and dry sense of

673
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: how did they do? Not very well? Yeah, but that's

674
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: because they didn't have DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregor. I mean

675
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: they were down an absurd degree. You're down your best

676
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: two guys, you're moving your your third best pass rushers

677
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: moving out of position. So no, I mean they didn't

678
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: get enough pressure on them, but they weren't going to.

679
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: That was the big storyline for the game, and I

680
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: mean the fact that they I think the fact that

681
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: they were able to make make him as uncomfortable as

682
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: they did was a win given who they had available. Yeah,

683
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: I think next week if Gregory comes back, you know,

684
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: obviously Gregory and George Armstrong will probably be your starters.

685
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: I do think, you know, you need to figure out,

686
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: like like Dave said, figure out different packages to get

687
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: Parsons in there. I would imagine that Kamara will be

688
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: up instead of an eye. I think, yeah, I like

689
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: not not just the play that we saw Kamara, Herbert

690
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: got around him a little bit. He needs to He

691
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: needed to take a different angle there. He could have

692
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: really made a nice play on him. But he had

693
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: a couple more rushes later in the game Kamara did.

694
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see and I really doing a whole lot there.

695
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think a Night's is great run stoppers.

696
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna just get a guy in there

697
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to run and rush, Kamara will probably be that guy.

698
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: But it's good to have Gregory back. I think they

699
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to get Parsons to do

700
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. But you know, he had

701
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: a lot of time. I thought the third down numbers

702
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: would be a lot more, And then when I was

703
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: looking at him five of twelve or forty one percent,

704
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: I would have thought it was more about a sixty percent.

705
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: It felt like seven of ten. Yeah, it just proboys

706
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: were six of ten on third down. Oh, they just

707
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: weren't ever on the field that I mean, that was

708
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: it was a maddening Why. I I like Justin Herbert

709
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: a lot. I've I'm buying stock in his career, No

710
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: doubt he's a hell of a quarterback. And continuing on

711
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: that conversation of the defense, Jalen Smith led the team

712
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: with nine tackles. What do you think of this before

713
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: it's Nick kind of alluded to it littarlier Bore. We

714
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: thought he played, and you're great on a curve, right,

715
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: like for the the expectation, which is that you know

716
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: everybody and everybody hates him and he can't make any

717
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: plays and he's always at a position and he wasn't

718
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: perfect by any stretch. But with all of that into consideration,

719
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: I thought he played. I thought he played a really

720
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: good game. I mean, he made a couple of plays

721
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: in space. There were a couple of plays. He had

722
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: a tackle on Eckler. I was just in my head,

723
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like jail and you're not gonna get there.

724
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, And on one of me carried Eckler across

725
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: the field. Necla made the catch, which when you're going

726
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: across field there's a lot of times you expect they're

727
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna make the catch because the defender is at a

728
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: disadvantage in those situations. But I thought he stayed with

729
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: him and actually made the tackle after the catch made

730
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: it impressed. He had a pass breakup and I think

731
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was doing the Lebron stomp

732
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: or what that was. No, I'm serious, because Lebron was there.

733
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Who wasn't. Yeah, there was a ton of people there

734
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: that the celebrity types that was I mean Conn Gregor,

735
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: but that's Los Ange, I know, I know, like every

736
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: NBA play ian Post Malone was there. Of course. Yeah,

737
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: it was kind of weird that they put you know,

738
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers, you know, welcome Jamie Fox. It's like, you know,

739
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: he does our stuff, Jamie Fox does whatever. Both thanks.

740
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: But you know, it's easy to talk about Jaylen because

741
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: he played and how did he do? And then Parsons

742
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: is doing this, and then I mean, let's quietly they

743
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Manish had a nice game too, I mean seven tackles,

744
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: two for loss, had a sack. I mean it worked

745
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: out to do it this way, to put Parsons here

746
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: to rush. He got better as the game went on.

747
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: And those guys were able to to to you know,

748
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: man up there in the middle. I haven't seen Keano

749
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: Neil do a whole lots and team he actually had

750
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: a play because I tweeted about it when he did,

751
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, these linebackers are actually playing really well.

752
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking at that point, I wasn't talking

753
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: about Parsons. I was talking about the other three and

754
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: they all were making just these different plays that were

755
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: just kind of catching your attention. And Neil had done

756
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: something I forgot what it was. We'd done something that

757
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: was a I thought was a an outstanding play. But yeah,

758
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: I think all three of the linebackers I think did

759
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: a really fine job yesterday. And again that's one of

760
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: the areas where they have depth. So now you're able

761
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: to fill in a little bit with what you're missing

762
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: on the defensive line and use some of that depth

763
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: at linebacker and as we will talk about a little

764
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: bit later, maybe even at safety. Considering the circumstances they

765
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: were up against, and they didn't they didn't play wonderful,

766
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: and I think it's worth pointing out. I mean, it

767
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: goes both ways. Because the Jron Curse interception that got

768
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: wiped out. Was that was bs? That was terrible call.

769
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: That was just run of the mill contact. I should

770
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: have stood. But at the same time, the Chargers had

771
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: two touchdowns wiped out and one of them looked like

772
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: last year where and that was what I was afraid of.

773
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: Herbert got away from the rush and extended it and

774
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, eighty one's just standing down there on

775
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: the five yard line like that type of stuff makes

776
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: you nervous, but it gets wiped out by a flag,

777
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: so nobody really worries about it. After the game, all

778
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: of that considered, you know, they got picks, they made

779
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: great play like, they made plays in space, and they

780
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: did not let Herbert's ability to extend plays killed him.

781
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean he heard him a couple of times. Geez,

782
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Louise I almost said something else. The throw that Herbert

783
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: made across the hash and went and it went above

784
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: Diggs's hand one of the most amazing throws I've ever seen.

785
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: And it's easy to hate on Diggs for not making

786
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: the play or not being in better position. Herbert might

787
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: be the only quarterback in the NFL who can make

788
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: that throw. Honestly, it was I mean, he's a free

789
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: and so again all of that in consideration, didn't have

790
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: a pass rush to speak of, not like you would prefer.

791
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: They held up pretty well seventeen points and picked him

792
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: off and made life difficult for him. We're gonna go

793
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: and take our final break. When we come back, I

794
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: do want to talk a little bit about the safety position.

795
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: We saw some some players step up there and we

796
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: gotta obviously give a little love Treyvon Diggs as when

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849
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: was an area where we saw. For myself, I saw

850
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: confirmation of things I thought during training camp, which are

851
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: really Number one, I think Trayvon Diggs is the truth.

852
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: I think he is going to be a very good

853
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: cornerback for this team, the kind of cornerback you can

854
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: put on the best receiver from the other team and

855
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get beat up and he's gonna make

856
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: some plays. And that interception he made I thought was phenomenal.

857
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: But the second part of that is I think they've

858
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: got a ton of depth at depth at safety, more

859
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: than they've had in a very very long time. What

860
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: do you guys think about the secondary industrially, Well, I mean,

861
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: Diggs has got one goal at this point individually, and

862
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: that's to make the Pro Bowl. I mean, he's that's

863
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: the that's the track that he's on here. He gets interceptions,

864
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: he's got two now and and you know, two games.

865
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: But more than anything, he's traveling with with great players

866
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: and Kenan Allen is a great player, absolutely, and I

867
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: thought that that was just an outstanding you know matchup

868
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: there um and and you know, give CD Lamb credit

869
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: because they worked Treyvon Diggs, and I mean it was

870
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: he got all this kind of attention to training camp

871
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: and so you know he's he's gonna get. What we

872
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: said it all the time is that this is preparing

873
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: him for the for the season. So I thought Digs

874
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: did an outstanding job. And they make plays on the ball,

875
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: A great catch because he was a great catch, great

876
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: play by curse. I mean that was an outstanding play. Okay,

877
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: penalty fine, but to find the ball and get it,

878
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: so they're making plays, that's what I like about it.

879
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: I owe I might owe Treyvon Diggs an apology. It's

880
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: not like I didn't. I didn't think he wasn't good.

881
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: But we talked about it all the time where I

882
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: was like, I've been here before. You know, Byron Jones

883
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: looked like an All Pro safety in twenty seventeen, and

884
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: you just you watch the same thing over and over

885
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: and over again, and you're in this bubble of confirmation

886
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: and things get twisted. So I just I was in

887
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: my head. I was like let's see how Digs does

888
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: once the season starts, like is he as good as

889
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: he looks? Or is this another banana and the tailpipe?

890
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: Clearly I was incorrect. I mean he's a stud and

891
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: he looks fantastic. Obama players can be tricky, yeah, if

892
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: they're not first round picks. The first round picks are

893
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: typically in the pass rushers and all those guys are great.

894
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: But if you're not a first round pick at Alabama,

895
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: especially a secondary guy, you're thinking, was he really that good?

896
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Or is he just playing with all these other great

897
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: players and great pass rushers and all that. Because you

898
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: go back and look, I mean across the league, the

899
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Alabama players taking rounds two through seven, they're not as

900
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: great at all. I mean it's a huge drop off,

901
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: and I'm of course it is from the first round,

902
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: but I'm saying they don't even fall through the cracks,

903
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: you know. So he is actually performing like like like

904
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: a first round pick, like a first round pick, which

905
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: so and the other thing. So, yeah, Trayvon awesome, which

906
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: I looked. I just look, Kenan Allen had a hundred

907
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: yards did not feel like it, did not feel like

908
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: it at all, which I mean that's a testament to

909
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: I think how hard it is to hold that offense

910
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: down and he got and how how hard it is

911
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: to hold him He got an enormous chunk of that

912
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: on that one super extended play. You know, he caught

913
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: the ball down by like the five yard line. He

914
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: had a forty two yard long and I'm I'm I'm

915
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: not sold that this secondary is some incredible unit. I know,

916
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: I know they're not. They're not, but I'm super encouraged

917
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: and excited. And Nick just said it. They have ball

918
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: skills like Diggs's. Both of Diggs's picks have been no,

919
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: no Cowboys dB in the last decades. Making that play

920
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: even I said that last night to Todd Archer, we

921
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: were on the same plane. I was like, both of

922
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: Diggs's picks, that's not happening. He was like, well, Diggs's

923
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: first pick was just it was just a tipped screen pass.

924
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, And guys that were here

925
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: five years ago would have done this thing for a

926
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: couple of seconds, let it hit the ground, and then

927
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: they're pounding on the ground and doing push ups, and

928
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: right oh hand Diggs makes the play. Jay Ron Kurt again,

929
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw out any I don't want

930
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: to throw anybody under the bus. But there are safeties

931
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: that have been here in past years where the ball

932
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: would pop up in the air and again, yeah, they

933
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: kind of bat at it and it hits the ground.

934
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Now when that happens, it's Dorn's armstrong. Yeah, like the

935
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: ball and hit him because everybody's like baits of playing,

936
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, but okay, if you're safety, that's one thing

937
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: defensive in I think he gets a pass Demante Casey's

938
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: he had the most straightforward play and that one might

939
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: have been even more difficult because Herbert throws a fricking

940
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: laser to a guy on another level, so it's even closer.

941
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: You know, he he saw it, he had a quarter

942
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: of a second to react to that, and he goes

943
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: up and snags it like a receiver and very impressive

944
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: and then in the end zone, by the way, that's

945
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: what made it such a great term. And then just

946
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: the alert you know, thinking of like, oh, let's get down.

947
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: He even said, man, you know, I thought may I

948
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: could get out and make a play and then he

949
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: was like, no, that's pot and that that helped them,

950
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, And so that's that's two and that's two games. Now,

951
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: six takeaways in two games. I don't know if you

952
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: keep this momentum up, but if they can make plays

953
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: like this, that translates, right. If you have the wherewithal

954
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: to react like that and make the play, it gives

955
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: me confidence that you can do it on a reliable basis,

956
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: maybe not six every two weeks, but reliably getting them

957
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: instead of we're so used to the Cowboys defense going

958
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: through stretches where it's like, well it's been a month

959
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: since they've had a takeaway. I don't think that'll happen

960
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: if these guys can can play with ball skills like that,

961
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: So that's really encouraging um. And yeah, by the way,

962
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: I talked about this with Todd last night too. They

963
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: had that. Remember they had the rash of takeaways in

964
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: December last year brand Brandon Allen, Nick Mullins and Jalen Hurts.

965
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: They got six takeaways against Brady and Herbert ye the

966
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: goat and one of the most exciting young quarterbacks in

967
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: the league. So if they can do it against those guys,

968
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: they should be able to do it against a lot

969
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: of guys. Comes Darnold, Here, comes Daniel bring Daniel Jones

970
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: in here, come on, I mean you got mat with

971
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: with New England. I mean you've got four games in

972
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: a row now where I mean, this is the stretch

973
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: we talked about it. When the schedule comes out, everybody

974
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: probably put a split here, you know, and then it's

975
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: like this is where you've got to hit it right here. Yeah,

976
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean you you've got to win these four games

977
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: if you really want to be that kind of team. Now, yes,

978
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: they can lose a game and they'll be fine and

979
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: all that, but I mean, because two of them are

980
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: division home games, got to win that and I think

981
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: they can beat New England. I'm not trying to get ahead.

982
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is a stretch where you know

983
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: you can go one and one. They could be five

984
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: and one. And I'm not trying to be that guy

985
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: that they're being gay. Well but but but we've seen it.

986
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: And I said, and I wrote this last night, moral victories.

987
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: This is why we talk about moral victories because it

988
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: helped their morale. It builds confidence, built confidence. They figured

989
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: out how to win even when they didn't. They said,

990
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: we can rely on all these people. We can our

991
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: defense can make plays, our kicker can make a kick

992
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, we can go into

993
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: a road place and we can win and we can

994
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: beat you know, they didn't, but it led him to this.

995
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I think they they won this game. It all started

996
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: in Tampa and let's not forget this. And this is

997
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: what my column was last night. You can't get a

998
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: crazier week than the Cowboys had last week. On the field,

999
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean I practice, I mean there was more injuries

1000
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: in practice than in the movie The Program where they're

1001
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: like hitting each other Oklahoma drill, I mean leon Lett

1002
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: gets hurt. I mean go to the hospital. I mean

1003
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: demonte Kazi and oz Iris Mitchell, they run into each other.

1004
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Mitchell now six weeks and he got hurt, and you

1005
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: know he came back. I mean you know it's I mean,

1006
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: Gregory's out and all Marcus Lawrence gets hurt in practice too,

1007
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: Like all these things happened, and they were able to

1008
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: come here and get that win. And I'm sitting here

1009
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: thinking how much time we have left here because we

1010
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: do need to talk about the final like that that's

1011
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: next time as soon as y'all whatever, ye Derek is,

1012
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: Derek's a very like checkbox guy. Like, I'm very organized

1013
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to this show, I enough to be.

1014
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: I probably would have started with the final jove no,

1015
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: And actually we saved that to the last war because

1016
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to dive into this. So so

1017
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: talking me through that that last sequence, what happened there?

1018
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Obviously there are a ton of people out there that

1019
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: are like, he completely missed me talking about McCarthy completely

1020
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: mismanaged that last I guess it would have been thirty

1021
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: three seconds or so. What actually happened and what do

1022
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: you believe was the issue or was it just a

1023
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: circumstance that that just kind of got him there? I

1024
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: take out the word completely, and then I'm good with that. Okay,

1025
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: I think he mismanaged it, completely mismanaged it, Yeah, because

1026
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: they got a field goal and he trusted the guy

1027
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: to make it. But but I think that was mismanaged

1028
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: because you should have got another play there. Um. But

1029
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: I can speak from experience. I was standing not too

1030
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: far from there, and I saw that the light that

1031
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: the that the he was looking explain you explained what

1032
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: McCarthy said at first, So people kind of know that.

1033
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Okay, So it's second down and they

1034
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: run the ball to to Pollard with about thirty three

1035
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: seconds to go, and now it's third and three and

1036
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: they're looking him and Kellamore are looking straight ahead at

1037
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: a video board that's been there all game that has

1038
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: the clock and it has the down and distance. And

1039
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: it went out straight, went out like black went black.

1040
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a charger's you know, third ound because

1041
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: all that which they used to do that and then

1042
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: they the NFL's stopped that on those boards. But now

1043
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: they're looking around and you know, they haven't found that

1044
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: second clocket, you know, because Dak is looking at a clock.

1045
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: He's got it. So then they I think they panicked

1046
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. Also, Tony Pollard came off the field

1047
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: and he wasn't supposed to, so that messed up their

1048
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: play because they had two plays call. So now they're

1049
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: just kind of in scramble mode. And then they get

1050
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: to that seventeen seconds is when they said is the

1051
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: threshold for you know, running a play and then it's

1052
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: no timeout, but they didn't have one. I personally when

1053
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: all that happened, to call a time out with about

1054
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight seconds, I'm talking to my last take, my

1055
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: last time out and you know I'm gonna try to

1056
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: get a first down, I'm probably gonna throw it. Yeah,

1057
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: that's the tough part because if you only got one

1058
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: time out then now, and on that next play, it

1059
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: either needs to be an incompletion or it needs to

1060
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: be a play that can get you out of bounds.

1061
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: The likelihood that you're gonna be able to get up

1062
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: there and be able to get your your your kicking

1063
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: unit on the field like that, that's gonna be run

1064
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: and get a first down. You get up there and

1065
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: get up there, spike it. But if you don't get

1066
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: a first down right now, you're rushing everyone up there

1067
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: to kick a fifty four yard Yeah, you're rushing to

1068
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: train change units. So that might have been a bit tough.

1069
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm and I get the clock thing, which,

1070
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: although I was joking with you before the show, I mean,

1071
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: there's a clock in the end zone. Dak's been looking

1072
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: at it all day, and that's what Dak said. He

1073
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: was like, I just thought they trusted zirline, Like I

1074
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: knew what I knew exactly what was going on. I'm

1075
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: looking at the clock under the goal post, and I'm

1076
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: well aware of everything. I just thought they were fine

1077
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: with the field goal, and I'm just like, whoa, everybody

1078
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: knows that that clock's down there, can't you just like

1079
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: look to your left and see what it says? Well,

1080
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: that's easy to say. I will say that. I will

1081
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: say this though, if you also are dealing with last

1082
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: Paula coming out, Phil, where's my clock got? You know

1083
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. I mean that that there's

1084
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: a criminal level of disorganization. I mean, regardless of the clock,

1085
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: and that that's the thing that bothers me is, Yeah,

1086
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: you you have two plays called in that situation, you

1087
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: should be a play ahead of the of the down.

1088
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: And whether it's coaching miscommunication or is it just purely

1089
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: on Tony, I don't know, but whoever, you can't do

1090
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. Tony's got to know. The coaches

1091
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: have to know they ran. He ran the ball with

1092
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: thirty three seconds left on the clock and it wasn't

1093
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: even it was just a straight run. Everybody in the

1094
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: building knew the clock was going to run when it

1095
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: was over, and like nobody on the Cowboys seemed like

1096
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: they knew what to do in that situation. And I

1097
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: get all of these variables that were in the way,

1098
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: but just I mean Dak called the play. Somebody, somebody

1099
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: do something. You know. It's weird about that is when

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00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I asked a couple of players after the game, Pollard

1101
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: included maybe also Zack Martin, they said, you know, we

1102
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: practiced this that that four minute sequence more than anything,

1103
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, really that was the part

1104
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: where I'm like, yeah, coach has to I know that

1105
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: there were other things involved, but there's some culpability with

1106
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: the coach in those situations because if they practiced that

1107
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: a lot, then maybe they should have practiced a little

1108
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: bit more because it was still this at least from

1109
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: from Tony stampoint. Tony didn't know where he was supposed

1110
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: to be. I was. I was so proud of the

1111
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: way that they played it to we talked about this.

1112
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: I was like, they the kick needs to be the

1113
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: last thing that happens in this game, and they played

1114
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: they slow played it so well, like they ran eleven

1115
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: fricking plays. I think they only ran they started with

1116
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: I think they had three fifty eight when they took

1117
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: the ball. They only ran like two or three plays

1118
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: up until the two minute warning. They were deliberately trying

1119
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: to just bleed the clock out. They throw the Jason

1120
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Witton out route to Cedric Wilson. It's exactly what it was.

1121
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: Made me laugh and I was like, this is amazing.

1122
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: They're they're doing it. They're doing what a smart team

1123
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: should be doing. And then the bottom just dropped out.

1124
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: It worked out. So I mean, obviously we would have

1125
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: done a half hour on this if it hadn't worked out.

1126
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: But it just it shouldn't It shouldn't be that sloppy

1127
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It just shouldn't be. And I get

1128
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: that the clock went out, but figure it out. What

1129
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: do you guys think of it? I didn't love the

1130
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: play call that preceded it with the end a round

1131
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: to Pollard, and the reason why was because I think

1132
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: if you're going to run that play, then you tell Pollard, look,

1133
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: the important thing here is get to the outside, because

1134
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do this, we want to give you

1135
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: the ability to be able to run out of bounds,

1136
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: because if they would have been able to get him

1137
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: out of bounds in that situation, you're in a better

1138
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: situation from the standpoint of the clock and managing the

1139
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: clock from there. I just I just I would have

1140
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: rather a pass play in that kind of situation rather

1141
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: than that, because he gets tackled in the middle of

1142
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: the field, and I think that's what puts you in

1143
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: the position in the first place. That sounds good about

1144
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: getting to the outside, but sometimes these players to get outside,

1145
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: you have to give up a little bit to get there,

1146
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: And the worst thing that could have happened is give

1147
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: up more yards. You know you gotta did you question?

1148
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: Like he cut back in and I think it was

1149
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: Dave that like somebody was sitting inside me was like,

1150
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: I think we both at the same time, We're like,

1151
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: why do you cut back in? Like he had more

1152
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: real estate and he could outrun those guys in the outside.

1153
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I need to watch this. I woke up two hours ago,

1154
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: plus I need to rewatch the game. But it reminded me.

1155
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's be clear. You went to bed three hours ago, yea, yeah, yeah,

1156
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: Actually I woke up an hour and a half, right, right,

1157
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you took the red eye last night, so

1158
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: it's not like you know, you've had like an hour

1159
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: or sleep maybe, um, but it in the moment, it

1160
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: reminded me of the option play from week one. I

1161
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: felt like whoever was blocking on the boundary kind of

1162
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: lost contain and that's it's a double edged sword. I

1163
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: love Kellen's aggression because if if they had gotten a

1164
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: block on the outside, I think you're right. I think

1165
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: Tony could turn that guy on the corner and probably

1166
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: get fifteen yards and all of a sudden, this is

1167
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: a very manageable field goal, and Kellen Moore looks like

1168
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 1: a genius. But you don't get the block, and even

1169
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: if they don't have the mess with the clock, you're

1170
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: still on the edge of field goal. Ringe Um, I think.

1171
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just football is. It could have

1172
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: been the most amazing play call, but you don't get

1173
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: one block, and so it doesn't look that great in retrospect. Yeah,

1174
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: it was. It was just I think the whole sequence

1175
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: was a little bit baffling for me, but it worked

1176
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: out for me. And you're right, that could have gone

1177
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: really wrong, and that'd be what we're talking about today. Now,

1178
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: they wouldn't lose a game on that, They would go

1179
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: to overtime. But that's that's kind of part of the

1180
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: problem here, is that I think that there are a

1181
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: lot of people look at this and saying this is

1182
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: the first time there have been situations where you questioned

1183
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: the decisions coming from the coaches and is this going

1184
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: to be an ongoing train where against a better team

1185
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: you may not have the benefit of a win. It

1186
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: goes back to the thing of I haven't I haven't

1187
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: seen what Mike McCarthy provides on game day yet, you know,

1188
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: just in terms of like that's his specialty and that's

1189
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: what he did, and that I mean, we said the

1190
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: same thing about Jason Garrett for years, like I'm not

1191
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: sure what he brings to game day that makes him

1192
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: better than the other team's coach. And this is the

1193
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: latest example they got away with it, but it's not inspired.

1194
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: And two weeks in a row that they've also been

1195
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: bailed out right before halftime where they've made decisions that

1196
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: they could have cost them some points. I mean, I

1197
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: don't know why you're rushing the punt there, trying to shoot.

1198
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: We didn't even get to that. Yeah, And actually I

1199
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: was going to talk about that tomorrow because I want

1200
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of a bit deeper dive

1201
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: into just special teams and how it's being coordinated. This

1202
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: goes back to last year. This has been a situation

1203
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: where there have been some questionable calls and who's really

1204
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 1: making these calls and allowing them to happen. Some point,

1205
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: hit coach, if the special team's coordinator is a little

1206
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: more aggressive than you want, at some point you got

1207
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: to step in and be like, all right, slow this

1208
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: down a bit. And that doesn't seem to be happening.

1209
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: So it reminds me of onside kicks. And I know

1210
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: they change the rule a little bit to make it

1211
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: easier to recover an onside kick, but like the way

1212
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: they've changed the rules to make the game more safe

1213
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: have made onside kicks like incredibly hard to recover. And

1214
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with blocking a punt, like they're

1215
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: gonna throw the flag if you if the punter gets

1216
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: breathed on. They just are And it's like, um, it's

1217
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: like the old catch rule, like did Dez catch it?

1218
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: Of course, but the minute that they saw that, it

1219
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: looked like he didn't have possession. There's just there's landmarks

1220
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: that referees look for because the game moves so fast,

1221
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: margeting right, yeah, which and it leads to a lot

1222
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: of bad calls. I get that the Cowboys didn't technically

1223
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. They their guy got I think it

1224
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: was Kamara got pulled into the punter. I understand that.

1225
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: Guess what all the ref seas is the punter's foot

1226
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: go above his head and he's like, flag you hit

1227
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: the punter? Sorry about it. And my point is you

1228
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: might not like it, but what is the risk versus

1229
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: the reward? The risk is like at least fifty percent

1230
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: that you're gonna draw a flag, and the reward is

1231
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: like a two percent chance that you blocked the punt.

1232
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: Like how often do you see block punts in the NFL?

1233
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 1: Out One thing to note I did here this this morning.

1234
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: Did happen in Week one between Pittsburgh and Buffalo. But well,

1235
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: the charges have I want to say that they said

1236
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers have been they have had the most punts

1237
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: blocked all last year of any team in the NFL.

1238
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: So you may go into that game thinking there are

1239
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: opportunities here. Again not saying that was the right situation

1240
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: for them to go for that, but that could have

1241
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: been something that factored into their decision, and I'm sure

1242
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: it was, and I'm sure John will say that when

1243
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: he talks to the media later today. Yeah, I don't know.

1244
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: Risk verse reward just doesn't doesn't seem like it clicks

1245
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: for me. All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us.

1246
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna get a little bigger

1247
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: picture look at this team and around the NFC East.

1248
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Will also talk about the coordinators. I want to talk

1249
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: about what they're doing right now. We've been seeing a

1250
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: lot of good things from the offensive and defensive coordinators

1251
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: for sure. We'll talk about that tomorrow too. Then for

1252
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: Nick even to Dave helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This

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01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,720
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