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Speaker 1: Guy Who Tips podcast because Rod and Karen are a.

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Speaker 2: Hot nineteen ninety chub Rock jumps up on the scene

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Speaker 3: The green didn't symbolize and made it to the top.

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Speaker 2: But RoboCop last year it was a shot the tone

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Speaker 2: of the Popeye cut Shake you, but kids are scream

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Speaker 2: in the media says what that's? What that says?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know he said that. Uh kind of music?

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Speaker 2: Is this for you to dance to the man with

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Speaker 2: the plane and the man demands you leave the smack

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Speaker 2: in the crack for the whack or the vial of

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Speaker 2: the nine keep a smile like that, leave the knife

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Speaker 2: and the gun in the store. Ignore the temptation by

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Speaker 2: the nation racial game causes paying need a new rep

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Speaker 2: in your hearts and minds. Never forget yourself, Hawkins and

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Speaker 2: you walk in. Just don't run black on black. Remember

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Speaker 2: that's it, that's important anyway. The shun lists on one

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Speaker 2: brings forth the fun no hatred, the summer's almost done,

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Speaker 2: no time for sleep, Jump in your jeep and pump

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Speaker 2: up the funky beat a whole week.

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Speaker 3: Brieper goes off, Joe smash it and trash it.

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Speaker 2: You're too young to be plumped in the casket, yo,

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Speaker 2: get you, just get your boys and forgring the noise

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Speaker 2: and just swing it and part of people sing it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the.

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Speaker 2: Black Outs podcast, your host Rod and I never knew

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Speaker 2: this was a sound like. This is a song about

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Speaker 2: stopping black on black violence and shit.

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Speaker 3: Glad this came out before everybody got all woken shit

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Speaker 3: they would have.

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Speaker 2: Been when something with disrespectability of politics and nah that shit.

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Speaker 3: I seen somebody call the pimper Butterfly being Carson.

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Speaker 2: Speeches over a struggling jazz beat and I'm like the

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Speaker 2: Internet moves so fast now. That was a classic album.

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Speaker 2: Y'all wanted to win a Grammy and now it's coon shit.

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Speaker 4: That's oh that's what they said. It sounds like.

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Speaker 2: That's what somebody said on Twitter. I was just like, damn,

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Speaker 2: like that was that was awfully fast.

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Speaker 4: I've just gone conclusive even just hate everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also that thing where after a certain

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Speaker 2: period of time, you can kind of take a shot

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Speaker 2: at stuff that maybe you always wanted to find a

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Speaker 2: way to be shady. And plus, people need need attention,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it's a thing that helps you get

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Speaker 2: attention people, either if it's people arguing or people laughing

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Speaker 2: at it or whatever, but you know whatever.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's the Blackout Tips.

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Speaker 2: You can find some iTunes, stitch or potomatic search the

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Speaker 2: Blackout Tips.

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Speaker 3: We was five star reviews.

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Speaker 2: The official weapon of the show is an unofficial sport

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Speaker 2: and bulletball extreme. We can get right into the show.

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Speaker 2: It's now. Well, actually, there's a couple of things I

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Speaker 2: did want to talk about that have nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with the news or whatever. I went to the dentist

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Speaker 2: this morning then, and uh got a routine you know

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Speaker 3: Everything was good, Uh, you know, no problems.

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Speaker 2: Uh, but the normal woman that does my dental checkup,

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Speaker 2: like the dnnist assistant or whatever they called her are

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Speaker 2: d I don't know what those people are called. I

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Speaker 2: so they had another woman do it. And she was

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Speaker 2: an older woman. Yeah, she's done mine before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's she's a little heavy handed.

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Speaker 2: Yes she is, Like I don't know, she just got

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Speaker 2: like it was. It was like the property Brothers was own,

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Speaker 4: Uh, because she wanted to talk to you about that, and.

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Speaker 2: Then it went to it went to some type of

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Speaker 2: flip this. It was like flip my uh, pawn not

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Speaker 2: are you? Well?

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Speaker 3: How have I forgotten this?

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Speaker 2: I used to go with my grandma like every couple

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Speaker 2: or something, and its people buying stuff and they flip

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Speaker 2: it anyway, y'all. She was paying so much attention to

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Speaker 2: that motherfucking TV fucking my gums up. Shit, she was

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Speaker 2: like she I was like, baby, no, you look at

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Speaker 3: What you're doing. You can't do this by hand.

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Speaker 2: You don't know my mouth that well, and so she

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Speaker 2: was just going all through my mouth and just digging

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Speaker 3: You know, y'all trust me. I hopefully listen to show enough.

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Speaker 2: But I had some added dig deep into my toxic

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Speaker 2: masculinity to make it through that. I know, I'm a

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Speaker 2: little bit of shame myself, but I'm sure you know.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, we all have patriarchy and we

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Speaker 2: all been influenced by all this stuff, and I'm no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: of all the things that I don't think you should

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Speaker 2: be saying to people anymore. But I was like, ride,

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Speaker 2: you ain't no bitch, Your daddy didn't raise no little punk.

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Speaker 2: Don't you cry?

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Speaker 4: You know, Like it was instead of telling hey, I'm

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Speaker 4: in pain, I.

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Speaker 2: Love the pain.

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Speaker 6: The pain gives me pleasure, dig deep up, bitch, you

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Speaker 6: can't break me, like it would turn into like torture,

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Speaker 6: like it was like in every movie where they tortured

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Speaker 3: I was like that. I was like, that's all you got.

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Speaker 2: I'll never tell you what iced to see it is

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Speaker 2: or whatever it was, just it was ridiculous. Well it

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Speaker 3: Trying to get black off and ship.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, my teeth are great, hit my teeth,

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Speaker 2: don't fuck up my gun. My guns have nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with this. They didn't come to this party to

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I remember because when I was a kid,

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I was. And for people to got children.

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Speaker 5: You understand this, I was one of them kids. I

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Speaker 4: About my teeth as a child, Like I was like,

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Speaker 5: And when out, you know, as children, you think with

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Speaker 5: actually need to have the guns. Then you know, nobody

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Speaker 5: I went and I don't this was years ago. She

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Speaker 5: days after and after that they didn't have to worry

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Speaker 5: about my black ass, and no tartar or nothing like that,

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Speaker 5: because I was brushing the hell out of my teeth.

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Speaker 5: I was like, whatever it takes not to get her

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Speaker 5: never ever again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always took care of mine.

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Speaker 2: But still it's just that the heavy handed people, like

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Speaker 2: don't even think my mouth was bleeding after it just hurt,

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Speaker 2: you know, And sometimes like that woman has done my

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Speaker 3: I tried to say something.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, all right, now getting a little too

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Speaker 2: damn physical over here.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, she assault in your mouth.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I had to make it through, y'all. It

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Speaker 2: was the struggle. I was in there like crystal chair handle, so.

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Speaker 3: That toxic masculine. I ain't want to be no bitch

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Speaker 3: all in my mind, that's always in my mind.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, excuse me, man, excuse me.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just felt like I was gonna be

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Speaker 2: a little bitch, and I didn't do it, and that's

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Speaker 2: why we got to.

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Speaker 3: Get rid of it.

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 2: The sad reason terror crews are so shocked that people

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Speaker 2: Because he was, you know, that toxic masculine was in

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Speaker 3: He was like, they're gonna laugh at me, And that's

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Speaker 3: how I was feeling.

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Speaker 2: I was like, she's just gonna as soon as I

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Speaker 2: leave this, I was gonna be like, you won't believe

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Speaker 2: this big ass bitch. I can't believe this big ass

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Speaker 2: dude came in here talking about some my team heard.

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Speaker 2: And then in my mind they all laughing at the

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Speaker 2: I know that's not what was gonna happen. Guys, No,

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Speaker 2: my mind's not. It wasn't rational in those moments. So stupid,

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Top masculine is so stupid and fragile.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it hurts everybody.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I want to talk about is not

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Speaker 2: Maybe won't be funny to other people. But this nigga

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Speaker 2: Sean can't assuming people for what for for lying about

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Speaker 2: him on Twitter. According to him, he went and got

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Speaker 2: was getting that first wave of notices them cease and desist.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what them let I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: The don't let her say it, but uh, they was

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Speaker 2: getting them notices, and it's like the perfect storm. It's

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Speaker 2: to happen because essentially the people that were getting targeted

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Speaker 2: that he was going at and being like, y'all said

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Speaker 2: cut the shit out, take it back, or else we're

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Speaker 2: going to court. Those people, yeah are Also they're on

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Speaker 2: Twitter a lot, So it's like the perfect little like

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Speaker 2: microcosm of the wrong people to really be handling something

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Speaker 2: in public because everybody involved wants to stunt for the internet,

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Speaker 2: so that nobody's gonna like, like to me, I'm not Look,

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Speaker 2: I haven't been sued by this dude, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I would hope that would handle it a different way,

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Speaker 2: But to me, that's the kind of thing. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna try to either talk to somebody, get some legal

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Speaker 2: advice right.

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Speaker 4: To see what is the next motherfucking move.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm older, you know, so maybe that when you're younger,

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Speaker 2: maybe there's a little bit more like feistiness or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But to me, it's like, no harm, no foul. I

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Speaker 2: don't really give a fuck. And if I really said

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Speaker 2: Like what, okay, I'll stop my bad, I'll take it back,

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Speaker 2: you know, like the damage is essentially done anyway.

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Speaker 3: Well I take it back or not.

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Speaker 2: It's really for your ego, right, But these people was

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Speaker 2: I ain't saying that's the most mature or best way

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Speaker 2: it really ain't even that serious. For for for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's literally just not fucking worth it,

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Speaker 2: him to defend themselves in the same public, public square

439
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: that you would would say that thing in. So what

440
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: why are we in court today? Are you going to

441
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: keep saying the thing? Are you going to finally take

442
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: it back? Do you want to pay a civil penalty?

443
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 4: What?

444
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 5: Like?

445
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be some some jail type shit, like,

446
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: what is that important?

447
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 4: And guess who's not there?

448
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: All the motherfuckers that was hyping you up, dog, And

449
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: I swear I'm not joking. If somebody go to try

450
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: and lose this shit, people are gonna laugh it down

451
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: the same people, the same people. They might not do

452
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: it today. They might act like it's a travesty of justice,

453
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: because most people's morality extends as far as if they

454
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: like somebody or not correct. And there's a lot of

455
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 2: people that don't like Sean King, So in that circle,

456
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: it's everything he did.

457
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: It is shady, he's a scammer, he's.

458
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: This day that. For those that do like him, they're like,

459
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: why you why why can't you prove these allegations and

460
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 2: why are you saying these things so publicly unless you

461
00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: got the proof right?

462
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 3: But bigger than.

463
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 2: That, wait a couple of days. Lets something really bad

464
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: happen on these people and they end up losing out

465
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: some money or a career opportunity or something like that,

466
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: and watch how the same people that boosted you up

467
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: would be like, I knew that shit was stupid.

468
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: I would have just took it back ha ha ha.

469
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: The same people.

470
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: It be your own people, it's not even that deep,

471
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: it's not that complicated.

472
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 3: The same motherfucker's boosting you up. Look them in the eyes.

473
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: They gonna be the same pictures you see floating down

474
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: your timeline when you fuck up and being like this

475
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: stupid motherfucker, it is what it is. You know, you

476
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 2: have to pay attention to shit that's not just you,

477
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: you know, because that when you watch how they do

478
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 2: each other, and I watch, yeah, then you see how

479
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: they gonna do you.

480
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: So it's just crazy to me.

481
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: Man. I saw that shit and was like, man, I

482
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: hope everybody end up okay. I hope cooler heads prevailed,

483
00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 2: because from the one side, I can completely understand that

484
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: a person like Sean King should probably be quote unquote

485
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: above this. All activists get accused of fraudulent shit. All

486
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: of them, at least all the ones I've seen. I

487
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: can't think of not one, whether I personally know them

488
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: or not. All of them, motherfucker's been accused of something

489
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: where it's like hmm, they saying that's wasn't nothing up

490
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: and up, and you know what, I don't fucking know.

491
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Really ain't my business. I'm really out there, like I

492
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: hope all of y'all get us free or whatever. Good

493
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: luck to everyone, right, you know what I mean? Like

494
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't really trust or believing no one person in anything.

495
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: And that's fine, but it's just when you see these

496
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: patterns in these cycles repeat, this is a new level.

497
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 3: Let's go to court. That's a new level.

498
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: And I saw I saw people being like he got

499
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: black lawyers gonna take me to court? Like I'm like,

500
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: so if you would have got white lawyers.

501
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: Ever been better? I don't understand, Like what is the

502
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 3: blackness of the lawyers matter? They selling?

503
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: They are they selling us out because in their mind

504
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: they think they're defending a biracial man who has had

505
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: his integrity and his reputation and credibility impugned. And they

506
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: and they and he's hired them to do a job,

507
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: which is to make sure the y'all motherfuckers keep his

508
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: name out of your mouth.

509
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: So, like, how you're gonna play this?

510
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: Cause like you can spend any That's why I say

511
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: accountability as a motherfucker, because you can spend anything. We

512
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 2: have the words now be a social media to spend anything.

513
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: I can slander you, like legal the legal sense, right,

514
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: I can legally slander you, and then when I am

515
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: called out for it, I can flip my words into like,

516
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: but this is why I should be able to do that.

517
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: And the person that was slandered should not have a

518
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: right to defend themselves, you know what I'm saying, Like

519
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

520
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 5: It's like, but if there's the shoe is on the

521
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 5: other foot, you would you would do the exact same.

522
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: What's funny of them? What's funny is the shoe is

523
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: on the other foot. Now that's what this lawsuit ship

524
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: and this Twitter shit is done. Because he's on Twitter

525
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: being like at so and so, here is the screenshot

526
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: of the tweet you had.

527
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: You deleted it.

528
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: You told my legal team that you will stop doing

529
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: this shit, and here you are on Twitter still going

530
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You're gonna end up getting in trouble,

531
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna end up in a court of law. You

532
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: need to drop this shit right now. Don't let these

533
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: niggas basically pump your head up. And they and the

534
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: people are like in their own like Nope, I'm gonna

535
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 2: retweet everything. I'm gonna keep going at you. I'ma and

536
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: it's like who's your advisor? Like, who are your friends?

537
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: To pick up the phone and be like, hey man,

538
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: this shit ain't even that serious and you need to

539
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 2: let it go. This dude is not playing, like do

540
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: you got proof? You know, did you really delete this?

541
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: And did you really tell the people you gonna gonna

542
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: see some desist and then go on Twitter cause these

543
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: lights and retweets ain't feeding nobody. And I don't know,

544
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: I guess you. Everybody just gotta go through it theyself,

545
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: you know. But I try to have some level of

546
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: integrity about the way I do shit and the way

547
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: we do shit, so you know, it's kind of like

548
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: the five starter thing all over again. I remember how

549
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: many people was egging us on to like go at it,

550
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, those are my friends, right.

551
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: If I have injured them, regardless of the language being used,

552
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: the problem is whether I meant to or not. I

553
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: have caused injury to them, to their brand. I just

554
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: want to fix that. I don't really care about y'all

555
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: pat me on the back and being like they trash

556
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: and y'all the best Nope, nope, nope nope, and motherfuckers

557
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: on the internet will do that, and then who lives

558
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: with the consequences?

559
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 4: You, right, So.

560
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: You got the burn Bridge, you got the people looking

561
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: at you, you got the folks that you know, I

562
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: mean shit, they lucky fire Stared wasn't trying to be

563
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: legal with it, you know, because it's a wild, wild West.

564
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: We don't really know how the corterlog is gonna handle

565
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: some of these things, correct, you know. So you got

566
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: you got people like if they were being like, that's

567
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: my intellectual property, black girl nerves, I'm sewing black eye tips,

568
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm sewing anybody else that's using this hat.

569
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 3: Like I'm out here trying to get something. A lot

570
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: of us.

571
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: Wouldn't even know what the fuck to do in the

572
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: court over that shit. You know, maybe the court throws

573
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: it out. Maybe the court is like, no, no, no, y'all,

574
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: it's some harm here. Y'all need to fix this, you know.

575
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: And the fact that people got lost all that empathy

576
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: in that because it was whose side you own and

577
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: not what's right and wrong right, And when people made

578
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: the same arguments when black girl nurse is to get

579
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: their shit shark, that everybody would make that argument for them.

580
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: Oh so these big white publications trying to take the credit. Okay,

581
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: so how can it not be important? That these guys

582
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: invented these hashtags and everybody's using them, and then you're going, well, fuck,

583
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: it's not yours no more, it's ours.

584
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: Fuck that, you know. So it's just crazy. It's just

585
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: crazy how.

586
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: How the internet is and how it's the wild wild West.

587
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens, man, But the time will tell.

588
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: I saw that shit and just started laughing because I

589
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: was like, this is out of control. But I completely

590
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: understand why he would feel the need to have to

591
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: suit because it's gotta be one. I know, it's got

592
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: to be bothering him because he's written about it. But

593
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: more importantly than bothering him, it's gotta be harmful to

594
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: his reputation and business. So if you can't prove it,

595
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: if it's just speculation, you are gonna you know, and

596
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: and for the record, suing somebody like this also opens.

597
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: Up your shit to discovery.

598
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: So if his shit ain't on the up and up,

599
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, you hope that his lawyers aren't stupid enough

600
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: to start suing people and and don't be prepared to

601
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: go to troup go to court. But let's say they did,

602
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: and they go to court, then maybe these people will

603
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: find something and be able to prove, like out, we're

604
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: looking at his books, we're looking at his taxes, we're

605
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: looking at everything. We're seeing where every dime went, and

606
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: maybe they find some money mismanagement, or maybe they find

607
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: malfeasans of some type. Maybe, but that's a big ass

608
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: risk to be taken on over a tweet, you know,

609
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens else. Boy, the bird was

610
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: extra spicy, y'all.

611
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: I'm talking.

612
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: It was Cajun sparkle on the bird today. Mom, I

613
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: was scrolling that shit like the goddamn soap. I was like, ooh,

614
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: and then he said what hm M he was DM

615
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: and me and shit, I.

616
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: Was like, I know, it's crazy.

617
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: And they is not even a fucking business transaction that

618
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 5: you fell out about.

619
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: Right Like, I'm like, you know that everybody listens knows.

620
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: We kind of keep the ship with him at range limb.

621
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: I know people that have, you know, don't fuck with him,

622
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: that'll come on the show and talk about how they

623
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: don't fuck with us, and I always say the same shit,

624
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: which is I don't know that dude, And I'm staying

625
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: the fuck out of that cause I don't know, right

626
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: all y'all motherfuckers get accused of some shit these days.

627
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: Good grief, all right, let's get into some news.

628
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

629
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: I remember Chris Hansen from The Catcher Predator. Well, he

630
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: uh has been accused of bouncing checks and failing to

631
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: pay for thirteen thousand dollars away from marketing materials that

632
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: it received from a local vendor.

633
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: He's fifty nine years old.

634
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: He was charged Monday with issuing a bad check and

635
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: released after sign of the written promise to appear in court.

636
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: Hanson did not immediately return a call.

637
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: Tuesday for comment. No shit, sounds like he was trying

638
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: to cast a creditor.

639
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: He was trying to do something.

640
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: I think when they arrest us, sir, have a seat

641
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: over there, would you like somebody team you start writing

642
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: a check and something.

643
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: I'll be right out.

644
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm just glad, I have some cookies.

645
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: I'll be right out. I just doing some laundry. Okay,

646
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: I guess I'll just sign the sign this check.

647
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: And he never bounced back. He's done.

648
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 5: They've done stuff similar to that, but it's just wouldn't

649
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 5: they just never hit.

650
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: Are they gonna be like? Uh, sir, you definitely did

651
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: write a bad check. You know, like, no I didn't.

652
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: They were like, we have the transcript right here, will.

653
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: Good credit for seven hundred, says uh, you know I

654
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: always have the screens good credit seven hundred, and then

655
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: they always just got.

656
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: That creepy dude reading them that voice over.

657
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Speaker 2: I don't know what that voice was, old baby, you

658
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: are going to suck my cock today. You know, I

659
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: don't know why they had that creepy I.

660
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: Don't think I would like to do that.

661
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: You will see I will get the wine coolers. That

662
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: was my show. We'll be laughing at Thank god Twitter,

663
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: wasn't you walked in right? But yeah, that that's probably

664
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: what they did to him. Have a seat over there.

665
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: We do have the transcript. I need thirteen thousand dollars

666
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: worth of stickers, T shirts and vinyl.

667
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: Dcals at I'MTHREALBBNT dot com.

668
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: At I'm good for it seventy nine. Yeah, he paid

669
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: for well, tried to pay for three hundred and fifty

670
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: five ceramic mugs, two hundred eighty eight T shirts at

671
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty vinyl decals of what some kind

672
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: of Chris Hansen promotional marketing tool stuff. I wonder what

673
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: he got going new now the total mount was about

674
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: thirteen thousand dollars. He agreed to pay the entire bill

675
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 2: before delivery three months after receiving invoices for the goods.

676
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: It's September twenty seventeen.

677
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: The person working for Hanson send a Hanson News LC

678
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: check for the entire amount, but police said the check

679
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: bounce and the owner of the store spoke to Hanson,

680
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: who apologized the attempted to make a partial payment. Then

681
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: the dude filed a complaint with the police last April,

682
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: where he was still not paid. Sean Coughlin called Hanson,

683
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: who agreed to make a statement at the Stanford police

684
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: station but never showed up. Damn At least it didn't

685
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: run from the cops. At least didn't run from the cops,

686
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: because you know what they used.

687
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: To do by sudden tackle them.

688
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: Sick some dogs on them. Hanson then promised his wife

689
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: would drop off the check, but she never showed up.

690
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh man, this is so sad, Like this the kind

691
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: of crime he would be on TV trying to bust

692
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: right like is he now?

693
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: Is he become his own villain?

694
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 2: Like this sounded like the pilot for one of them

695
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: shows that he had after the catch a predator and

696
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: it just didn't work.

697
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: Yes, they didn't he do it on what the old

698
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: people scam.

699
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nigerian, Yes, and they will actually go to Nigeria right,

700
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: didn't catch nothing. By the way, Nigeria's too good. I

701
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: told Chris that I understood he may have trouble, but

702
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: that nearly thirteen thousand is a lot of money to

703
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: a mom and pop business and it's not fair that

704
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: he accepted the materials but had to pay for it.

705
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: April twenty seven, twenty eighteen, the owner said he received

706
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: a personal check from Hanson for thirteen two hundred dollars

707
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: in that bounce two days three days later, Peter, I

708
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: truly thought I had this cover Hanson road. According to Affidavid,

709
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm scrambling to get it done. Please give me to

710
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: the end of the day. I sold the boat to

711
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: cover the rest of this and need to pick up

712
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: the payment this afternoon. But another check never came and

713
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: arrest warrant was issued for Hanson, who turned himself over

714
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: the police on Mondal was at least without bond.

715
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for Mama Pops is a lot of money.

716
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: Yep m M to cash a credit note he continue,

717
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: mm hmmm, let's see what else happened. Uh do you

718
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: believe that men can be better care? Okay, well so

719
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: does Gillette. Apparently have you seen their ad for for

720
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: the best a man can get? All right, I will

721
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: put it on the screen. Let you look at it.

722
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: We believe the best man can get, Gelett. It's two

723
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: minutes long.

724
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: Masculinity?

725
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Is this the best a man can get?

726
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: Is it? We can't?

727
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Sexual harassment taking on a lot of images of men,

728
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: uh running around. Uh, but in between us, like a

729
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: kid that got bullied and his mom is holding them,

730
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: and then some other young dudes running through the living

731
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: room in that house. Uh, there's men sexually harassed people

732
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: on TV shows and in real life in the background

733
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: to want women targeting in the video what I actually

734
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: a man just put his hand on a woman in

735
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: a conference meeting that has all men and this one woman.

736
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: And then he's about the man explaining her point by

737
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: going what I think she's actually trying to say? So

738
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: you know all the stuff that you know people actually

739
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: think she's trying to say. Making the same old excuses boys.

740
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: But something finally changed.

741
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: Allegations regarding sexual assault and sexual harassments once, but she says.

742
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: And there will be no going back because we we

743
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: believe in the best in men.

744
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 5: Men need to hold other men accountable.

745
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: Come on to say the right thing. So that was

746
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: Terry Crews that said many other men accountable. And then

747
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: somebody like kind of street harasses a girl at a

748
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: food party. And then another dude, a black dude or

749
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 2: bend of colored, jumps in and goes, hey.

750
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: Come on, man, don't do that.

751
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: You know, to act the right way?

752
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: Not cool, not cool.

753
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: Some already are by the way, another black dude stopping

754
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: the white dude from doing the street harassment and waists

755
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: big and small.

756
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: But some it's not enough.

757
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: And they show like a you know, a dad breaking

758
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: up a fight between two boys. Uh, they show two

759
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: dudes that liked they were about to fight, but somebody

760
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: made them share hands instead of fighting.

761
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I treat each other again.

762
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: Because the boys watching today will.

763
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: Be the better enough tomorrow, and says the best a

764
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: man can get. It's only by challenging ourselves to do

765
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: more that we can get closer to our best. We're

766
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: all take an action that the best man can be.

767
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: Dot org.

768
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: So what do you think? Can you ready to go

769
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: buy some ju Lett razors, not the razors.

770
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: I will use their shaving cream to shave my legs

771
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: and up unneath my arms.

772
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: You get my money that way.

773
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because will.

774
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: Cut you over for black people, will cut your skin

775
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: the fuck up.

776
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: It's funny because I saw a BOSSI pointed out that.

777
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, it's not really an ad for

778
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: for anything, it's.

779
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: Just like an ad for of me too.

780
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 2: Almost. I was like, yeah, that's true, you know, because

781
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: even with Nike's Colin Kaepernick ad, it still was like

782
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: athletic stuff and Nike year. But yeah, I feel what

783
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: she's saying though, But what did you just think about it?

784
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: In general?

785
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: I was fine with it.

786
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 5: They just want to make a statement. I mean because

787
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: like a lot of men buy Gellette. Let's you know,

788
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: like women might buy it two you know, but when

789
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 5: you think of Gillette, you know, they actually have some

790
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 5: shit talking towards women. If I'm not mistaken, you don't

791
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: think women, you think men, the man, the man, the

792
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 5: men men. You know, here's a new raise up with

793
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: you know, forty five blades, you know, and all the

794
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: other type of shit.

795
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: So I do understand and it's one of those things where.

796
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: Uh, regardless of I'm gonna say this, regardless of if

797
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 5: it's regardless of how people feel, it's a marketing tool.

798
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: And you know, I mean, like the company themselves is

799
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 5: a marketing tool. And I think it's a very smart

800
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: marketing tool because it's one of those things where, because

801
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 5: masculinity so fragile, I can guarantee you that a lot

802
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: of men will highly upset.

803
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: But they're speaking the fucking truth.

804
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: Hey, it's your job to boys.

805
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: We boys. That's some bullshit.

806
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 5: Like they was calling out a lot of tropes that

807
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: a lot of straight men have bought into, and I

808
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: think this was almost like taking a mirror and reflecting

809
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: it in their face at in a smart way. At

810
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 5: the same time, I'm on that product. I do understand. No,

811
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 5: there was no actual gellect in it, but they're still

812
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: promoting their product because now when you see this commercial,

813
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 5: you will think of them and their name and their brand,

814
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: and for a lot of people, when they're thinking of

815
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: their brand, now their brand will be more of a

816
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: positive thing versus a negative thing. It's actually brilliant because

817
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, you.

818
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: Know, ain't them them dudes. It's on the me too thing.

819
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, I particularly if a woman happens

820
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 5: to be the one that's doing the shopping and buying shit,

821
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 5: she will actually go buy her husband a Gillette like

822
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 5: like it because a lot of most of the shopping

823
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: is done by women. Most most of the purchasing power

824
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: in the household, particularly straight households, is.

825
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: Done by women.

826
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 5: You do have men to go purchase stuff for most

827
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: men be like honey, go on and shop. So it's

828
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: targeted towards men, but actually it's more of a message

829
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: to the women that actually has the purchasing power that's

830
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: actually going to be out there buying shit. So I

831
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: could see their selves actually going up because of this,

832
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where it kind of

833
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: touched up your heart because you know, for a lot

834
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 5: of people, they're tired of companies not taking their stand

835
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: on this and you know, just going with business as

836
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: usual and acting like this shit it's not real. And

837
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 5: some of the scenarios, a lot of women have had

838
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 5: these scenarios happen to them, So you know, yes, you're

839
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: talking towards men, and you know men getting mad and

840
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 5: mescaniniti and you know want to put a dick out

841
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 5: and see who thelong gets to go.

842
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: Well, they ain't talking to me, you know, but women

843
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: are like.

844
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 5: Hey, you know, I actually like this message. Message actually

845
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 5: mean something. They're actually standing for something as a company,

846
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: regardless of if it's if it's really how the company

847
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 5: feels a not but you know, because it's marketing.

848
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: I actually think it's very genius.

849
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I think as far as the ad,

850
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: I think it is brilliant because it's got so many

851
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: people talking about it, right, and I think there's also

852
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: probably intentionally pissed off the right people because I do

853
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: think the pushback to the article is being overstated.

854
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think it's as many people

855
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: as they say.

856
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: This feels a little bit to me like Gabby Douglas's hair,

857
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: a little bit like.

858
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: Michael be we gonna boycott Black Panther.

859
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: Where you're not getting a ton of resistance to this ad.

860
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: You're getting the typical people Pierce Morian, men's rights activists, uh,

861
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, trolls on Twitter and shit like that. But

862
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: it's enough to keep to keep the narrative going, which is, oh,

863
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: these men are so pissed off and if you're one

864
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: of these men, kill yourself or whatever, you know, people saying,

865
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, it's kind of like,

866
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: you know, part of the cycle, now, right, you say,

867
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: you put the thing out, you talk about it. Then

868
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: some people, inevitably, you know, the right assholes are going

869
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: to be mad. And then then when we all pick

870
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: on them and we all dunk on them and talk

871
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: about how they're so stupid, and that keeps the ad

872
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: in the in the in the news cycle a little

873
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: bit longer, and eventually it's just a thing that that happened,

874
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: and nobody really cares, you know, but I do like

875
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: the ad. You know, it felt like an ad for

876
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: the me too movement, not for the gellette, right.

877
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that the add is actually for

878
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 5: a me too movement that happened to throw act.

879
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 4: Name across it.

880
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 5: It's like me too slash Hey, don't day that we

881
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 5: ain't up for the bullshit.

882
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: That's basically what the commercials you just said.

883
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, men do need to check men and stuff.

884
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: So they got a lot of the good ideas, and

885
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: especially the idea being at the end because these kids

886
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: watching now will be the men of the next generation.

887
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: And it just kind of says without saying, what are

888
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: we teaching our boys?

889
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: Yes, that and also a lot of the scenarios that

890
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: they were showing actually real life scenarios that women had

891
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 5: to deal with. The dudes just think, ain't a fucking

892
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: big thing harassing people, calling that, people touching people, putting

893
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: your hands on like their women in the business meeting

894
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: and shit like that, you know, like casual things that

895
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: men do because of their privilege, they don't think fucking

896
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: twice about it, and it's being actually put in their face.

897
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: Go, this ain't cool. This ain't cool.

898
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: Men, this is not cool, and other men should stop

899
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: other men from doing this. And because you know, the

900
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 5: privileged group never wants to hear how they're wrong, it's

901
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 5: you know, for percentage of people to push back. Most

902
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 5: people that are good human beings, even men. I don't

903
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: give the fuck I either buying a product or I'm

904
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: not well.

905
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: You know what I find to be funny about that is.

906
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 2: There's also a bunch of stuff in there about men

907
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: terror and boys terrorizing other boys.

908
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: Correct, that's all throughout that ad as well.

909
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: So the overt stuff is kind of like, look how

910
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: we treat women, but there's a lot of like, look hout,

911
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: we let boys treat each other, treat each other, you know,

912
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: look at the you know, so I just thought it

913
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: was it's an interesting ad man. You know, I won't

914
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: really get into the pushback because I don't I think

915
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, like a guy like Piers.

916
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: Morgan or James Woods or Chuck Woolery.

917
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: Like, we can't. We can't be entertaining them as if

918
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: they are equal in opposite people to be taking right.

919
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: They can't be the foundation of where we spark our conversation.

920
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: Like you said, there's.

921
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: Certain people you go, Okay, I want to have this conversation,

922
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: but this person can't be the jumping off point.

923
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: And they're not coming at it in good faith, Like

924
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: they're not even coming at it in a way where

925
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: they're like because I earnestly believe this, they they'll just

926
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: say anything to get some attention, or they just say

927
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: anything that fits with their like political agenda. You just

928
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: gotta let them people five by themselves. I don't give

929
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: a fuck. Let's see what else is happening a porn website.

930
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: Warren's customers to stop so for R Kelly's illegal tape

931
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: with underage girl.

932
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: Right, I'm saying. I was like, who's going on the

933
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: porn slights?

934
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: Y'all?

935
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: Do know that there's lows they can't legally have it

936
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: on there?

937
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Porn searches that say R.

938
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: Kelly have risen three hundred and eighty eight percent since

939
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: January three when surviving R. Kelly Premier. Y'a't want them?

940
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Lock y'all love, don't you? Uh? Is this like the

941
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: way the music streams went up? Like is this related

942
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: to that type of thing which just say the name association?

943
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: Cause do y'all not realize that is child porn?

944
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 5: Yep, it is not a sex tape. It is actually

945
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: child porn and a lot of people called them a

946
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: sex tape.

947
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: It's not. It is child porn niography.

948
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: You want to go to prison for that?

949
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: You know?

950
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 5: The way the technology is now, they can tell what

951
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: computer you put it on.

952
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 2: The website mentioned it does not host any videos with Kelly,

953
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: nor do they have any early two thousand videos of

954
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: Kelly having sex with urinating on the underage girl. The

955
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: incident with Kelly is his child pornoc fee. S Kelly

956
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: is engaging in sex with the then fourteen year old girl.

957
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: Who is considered statutory rape. So isn't it isn't it

958
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: really telling that they can't host that that tape on

959
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: a website? But yet he didn't go to jail for

960
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: it because quote unquote they can't prove the age of

961
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: the girl.

962
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: Ain't that crazy? You know what I mean?

963
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: Like?

964
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: Ain't that?

965
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Like? How the fuck is the tape illegal?

966
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: And he not?

967
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: That's so fucking that just speaks volumes. It speaks volumes

968
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: to his fucking guilt. It doesn't matter how people feel

969
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: about it speaks volume to his guilt that we have

970
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: decided if you look at that tape, you're a fucking

971
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: sick child predator type pedophile ass nigga if you watch

972
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: that tape. But we have also decided as a society

973
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: he can just go out and make music and live.

974
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Anyway, they have been they have been

975
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: warned by ex Hamster R. Kelly tape is not on

976
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: ex Hamper, nor will we ever allow it to be

977
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: regardless of the news or sensation. To take feature underage

978
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: is both illegal and a moral Uh. They also will

979
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: be disabling searchers and putting up messages that reinforce the

980
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: content is not.

981
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 3: Acceptable and gainst the law.

982
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: So ridiculous.

983
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: Let's see what else is happening.

984
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: So, you know, is a place in Alaska, Okay and

985
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 2: Alaska's capital, you know, stop fluoridating, putting fluoride in the water,

986
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: in it's tapwater. And about twelve, about twelve years ago,

987
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 2: and a new study says that their children are paying

988
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: a price.

989
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, teeth up.

990
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: Public health researcher Jennifer Meyer studied Medicaid dental claims before

991
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: and after floride was removed. The lack of fluoride has

992
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: increase these dental calls for families with children under six

993
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: years old. She said, there's been an additional treatment for

994
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: carries I guess cavities and the decay of crumbling of

995
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: a tooth by taking the flooriade out of the water supply.

996
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: To trade off for that is, children are going to

997
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: experience one additional Oh carries I guess what they call

998
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: her carries procedure per year at a ballpark costs of

999
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars more per child. Maya studied Medicaid dental

1000
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: claims for two years that were fouled for the children

1001
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: in Juno's main zip code. She reviewed a year's worth

1002
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: of data before floride went away, and a year's worth

1003
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: five years at the oh and against flour years after

1004
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: flooride was removed. For about nineteen hundred children in total,

1005
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: children under six when the water was flooridated, floride dated

1006
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't know which one anyway, averaged about one and

1007
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: a half cavity related procedures per year. After floride was gone.

1008
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: That went up to about two and a half per

1009
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: sea is a year. Older children saw a less dramatic increase, right.

1010
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: Because when children are smaller, it's hard to get them

1011
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: to understand the concept of brushing their teeth. And you know,

1012
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 5: you can work with them and do what but but

1013
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: they're smaller children. You know they're not gonna do it perfect,

1014
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 5: So they do you do? You know, the Florida is

1015
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 5: kind of an assistant on that to help help keep

1016
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 5: their teeth healthy until they become up age where they

1017
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: understand the importance of like their teeth and pushing their

1018
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 5: teeth and you know, or hygiene and shit like that.

1019
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 5: Because no matter how much you try to teach your

1020
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 5: children that, you know that they're gonna develop on their

1021
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 5: own terms when it comes to those types of things.

1022
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Uh, the study did not change the opinion of David

1023
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: Ham who pushed to take who pushed to take the

1024
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: Florida out of the water in two thousand and six.

1025
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 5: Oh and somebody bout good points. I think about it,

1026
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 5: and these are the ones actually go to the dentists.

1027
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 5: There's a lot of children that don't have the luxury

1028
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: of going to the dinnis because the shit costs too

1029
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: much money.

1030
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: But my favorite thing is that dude who pushed forward

1031
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: the gee taken out. It does not change his opinion

1032
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: at all. Facts don't matter because they don't give the

1033
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 2: facts don't matter.

1034
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 4: Save the money somewhere right.

1035
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: It's just like climate change, you know, it doesn't matter

1036
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: to them what the whatever happens, They will find a

1037
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: way to twist that without doing any work or any

1038
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: overlieving anyone who does the work.

1039
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: Children. I'm suffering, and you said it.

1040
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: I believe I had a right to have a public

1041
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 2: water supply that is pure and to decide for myself

1042
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: what medicines I wish to take. And I just don't

1043
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: wish to be exposed to a toxic chemical floride.

1044
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: He said, what your teeth looks like?

1045
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: Just the leader the resistance, just nut.

1046
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: What does your teeth look like when you go to

1047
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 5: the dentists, do they be like, now, we're not gonna

1048
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 5: use no floride.

1049
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 4: They've may use it for adults. Are we talking about here?

1050
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Teeth like dueling man joes? And they don't even uh.

1051
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, World Health Organization,

1052
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: europe A Union, European Union, other government and medical institutions

1053
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: say low levels of fluoride and drinking water are safe.

1054
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: My issue is that we're asking the wrong questions here,

1055
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: you know, And let's get to the root cause. Put

1056
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: a tax on sugary drinks and all of those other

1057
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: things and do whatever we can support good health through

1058
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: good die, he said. He called fluoridation a band aid fix.

1059
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: What now your kids gotta get cavities field fixed? How

1060
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: is that better?

1061
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: Not? Yeah, because that's stupid, because you know what, all

1062
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 5: this health that she's talking about, you won't even provide

1063
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: the services for people to get them if they can't

1064
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 5: afford them. So you can't take you can't strip the

1065
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 5: floride out the water and then be like fucking eat healthier,

1066
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 5: Oh you can't afford it?

1067
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: Fuck it basically what you're saying.

1068
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Let's see what else we got to go

1069
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: in here on six tricks that narcissists used to lure

1070
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: you back sticking to no contact. Read this on a

1071
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: brilliant Bitching dot com.

1072
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: Brilliant bitch and I miss your your other website. I

1073
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: laugh every time you say that.

1074
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: Uh, this is kind of long, but I'll read it.

1075
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: I thought it was a good read, uh, and I

1076
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: had dealt with some of this stuff without knowing about it,

1077
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: and maybe it'll help people out there that may be

1078
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: dealing with this ship and not know about it either.

1079
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: You know, all this stuff is new to me, and

1080
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: I think the Internet is introduced us to.

1081
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: So many more people and types of people you just

1082
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: don't know you don't and it's people you know but

1083
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: you don't know. So it's like that that illusion of

1084
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: familiarity sometimes.

1085
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: Where it's like they seem cool. You like to assume

1086
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: that cool.

1087
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: You're feeling the blanks in your mind, and then shit

1088
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: starts unraveling. You're like, oh, this person might not really

1089
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: be all there.

1090
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1091
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: Let's get to the tricks that people use and I'll

1092
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: skip some of the intro stuff, but it's but it's

1093
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: a good read though. Like they talk about the relationship

1094
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: cycle of narcisism three distinct stages, idolization, devaluation, and discard Nigga,

1095
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: when I say, shit was just clicking in the place,

1096
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this has happened to me. I was

1097
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: the greatest motherfucker ever. Then I wasn't shit, and now

1098
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm gone and I don't even know what changed, you

1099
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Where you're just like okay, all right.

1100
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: A similar cycle could occur with people who are not

1101
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: necessarily full blown DSM five narcissists, but who share abusive

1102
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: traits and tendencies. For people that have been in relationships

1103
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: with narcissists or abusive partners, no contact is to prescribe.

1104
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 2: Technique for recovery evolves going through at least thirty days

1105
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: with absolutely no communication with that individual. Thirty days is

1106
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: the bare minimum. Ideally, your no contact detox will last

1107
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: ninety days, the goal being to break your attachment to

1108
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: the narcissists and eventually go no contact forever. Yeah, because

1109
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: I think in a romantic relationship is probably even worse,

1110
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: because there's some level of dependence that you have on

1111
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: this person.

1112
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: That in the friendship.

1113
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: While you may it may be nice to be around

1114
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: each other and stuff, but there's a level of like,

1115
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't need you, you know. And I think also

1116
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: because of my the way my brain works, the stage

1117
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: where they're just telling you how great you are, I

1118
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: don't take it in, you know, so I don't really

1119
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: get addicted to that part of Like, but then you

1120
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: always told me how great I was.

1121
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, as I've matured now, myna. But when I

1122
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 5: was younger, I was a sucker for that.

1123
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: But now now, yeah, I know you used to definitely, uh,

1124
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: that used to be a thing for you.

1125
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to be a people pleaser, like I

1126
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 5: just wanted to please everybody.

1127
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: Well not just that, but then you're people pleasing, but

1128
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: then also they're trying to do like and this is

1129
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: you're the specialist one, you're the greatest one, and you're

1130
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: the this is why that, And then it's like, okay,

1131
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: that's cool, But then how come that goes away? A

1132
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: second I tell you, I say no, yes, the second

1133
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't make it to your thing. I'm

1134
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: not the greatest, greatest one. I'm not the greatest one,

1135
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: and I'm not the smartest one.

1136
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm just a person now that's trash yep.

1137
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 5: And like I said, and I've had that happen to

1138
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 5: me before when I was younger, and you know, as

1139
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: i've been older, and it's one of those things where

1140
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 5: I just start, you know, my mind starts ticking, like, Okay,

1141
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 5: what is your angle?

1142
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: You know, like what is happening? What's going on?

1143
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: You know?

1144
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: And I used to didn't.

1145
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 5: Always question things like that because I grew up very

1146
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 5: naive to a lot of shit. There's a lot of

1147
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 5: shit and a lot of game, a lot of street

1148
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 5: wiseness that a lot of people got exposed to in

1149
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 5: the teens that I don't know, what the fuck I

1150
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: just missed that whole genre.

1151
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't know that that's true.

1152
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: I think you did get exposed to a lot of

1153
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: that stuff, you know, like just from your own like

1154
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: different people you deal with your personal life and family

1155
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: stuff and stuff like that too. I think we're all

1156
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: kind of like program via the relationships we have growing up.

1157
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: You know, we kind of fall into those habits and

1158
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: we kind of try to remake those relationships outside even

1159
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: once we get to be adults.

1160
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: So I don't know, that some of.

1161
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: These things, I feel like, at least you know, as

1162
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: I know you, some of these things kind of mimic

1163
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: other parts of your life too, where it's like, Okay,

1164
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to please this person that was hard to please,

1165
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: and so now I'm finding other kind of mother figures

1166
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to please that.

1167
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: Are hard to please correct. And it's kind of a pattern,

1168
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1169
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: And until you break it, that that the breaking it

1170
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: is the new part.

1171
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, right and and and I

1172
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: can speak for me personally, I know that.

1173
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: You feel guilty, you feel naive, you get mad, you're angry,

1174
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: you're upset, your.

1175
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: Bitter like it like, it is a full range of emotions.

1176
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie that you have to go through.

1177
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 5: But you got to go through them in order to

1178
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: get to the other side. And you know, especially you know,

1179
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 5: if you like, like if your personality is pleasing people,

1180
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 5: and I know some people they they've never had that personality,

1181
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 5: so they never can relate. But I know I'm not

1182
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 5: the only one that has this type of personality, and

1183
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 5: so and a lot of times people that have my

1184
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 5: type of personality, you become a target, like people actually

1185
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 5: just flock, and they seek you out and they seek

1186
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 5: certain traits that you have and they almost go ooh,

1187
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 5: look I got me a sucker.

1188
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: I got me another one, you know.

1189
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 5: And it takes a lot to be And the older

1190
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: you get, the better you get at it, The better

1191
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 5: you get at recognizing get, the better you get at

1192
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 5: noticing it, the better you get at saying no and

1193
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 5: meaning no and steadying by your no.

1194
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 4: You know, because you can say no.

1195
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 5: Like when I was younger, I'll say no, and I

1196
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 5: was still kind of a pushover.

1197
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: But you know now I say no, no means no, why,

1198
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: you know.

1199
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 5: And the thing is people like people that manipulate act

1200
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 5: like we're fucking or or they're my mama or my

1201
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 5: daddy or some shit like that. Why I don't need

1202
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 5: to give your mother fucking reason. You're not my boss,

1203
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 5: you're not my manager, you're not paying me.

1204
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: I said no. It's the goddamn end. And you have

1205
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 4: to say it and stand.

1206
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: By it and actually deal with them actually turning it

1207
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 5: on you and act like you're the fucking problem for

1208
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 5: telling them no. They can't take advantage of you anymore.

1209
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 5: And that's a process, particularly if you're a people pleasing person.

1210
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think especially when you say saying no. I

1211
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: think for me, saying no is my default, you know,

1212
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: as an introvert. It's just like I didn't want to

1213
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: do that shit anyway, So you know, it's like to

1214
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: be my friend, even to have a relationship with me,

1215
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 2: part of you has to stop internalizing the no, right,

1216
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: Like for all the people that are close to me,

1217
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, I want to do this thing.

1218
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: I ain't. Well, you should go do that.

1219
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: That sounds fun. You don't want to go Nope, but

1220
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm not. This is not me wanting you not to go.

1221
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: It's not me trying to ruin your time. But this

1222
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: is me knowing what I would have fun doing versus

1223
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: what you would have fun doing, and that's okay. And

1224
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: so I think me having that mentality kind of put

1225
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: me away from the like, uh people please their type

1226
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: of way people anyway, because they need you to be

1227
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: there so they can take the advantage of you. The

1228
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: Internet is a little different because it's given people too

1229
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: where you don't really have to be there to be there, correct,

1230
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: So so you know what I mean. So people are

1231
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: able to be manipulative now in a way that is

1232
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: a little different.

1233
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 5: Right, And I know also for for somebody growing up

1234
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: on me personally right now, growing up, no was always

1235
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 5: a bad word, like Noah's like, oh my gosh, they

1236
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 5: don't me know, you know.

1237
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 4: So it's one of those things.

1238
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 5: Where when you say no, a lot of people look

1239
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: at it as a negative thing. And no, it's not

1240
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 5: always negative, but people all automatically look at it as

1241
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: a negative thing and they view Some people view themselves

1242
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 5: as a bad person if they tell somebody no, I

1243
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 5: don't want to hurt your feelings. I'm being I want

1244
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 5: to be considered.

1245
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kind of let you down, you know.

1246
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 5: And like I said, I know I'm speaking to somebody

1247
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: because there's other people that that didn't have struggle with.

1248
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: This in the past.

1249
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of it is being confident

1250
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 5: and knowing what you want and don't want. And this

1251
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 5: hard until you get to the age that you realize

1252
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 5: what you want and don't want.

1253
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, even when people want us to do something, most

1254
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: of the time they try to go through you, right

1255
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: because they go, well, Karen will say yes in their minds,

1256
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, like Karen will be the easiest one to

1257
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: get on board.

1258
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: And if she's on.

1259
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: Board, then Ryan has to do it, and they have

1260
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: to do this thing. You know, it's you know, it's

1261
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: a strategic thing. But we've seen our entire relationship because

1262
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, on and offline, because that's kind of people's

1263
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: approach to it. But they don't realize we are a team. Yeah,

1264
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: we are best friends. We are gonna talk, we're gonna

1265
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: share shit. We don't tell everybody what the fuck we

1266
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: talk about it all the stuff that we think. So

1267
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: even even still, it's eventually gonna break break apart because

1268
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: nothing's gonna break this down. So it's but it's interesting

1269
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: how many people use that tactic.

1270
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's funny and not to get off topic,

1271
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 5: but even something is simple as a shopping experience, It's

1272
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 5: amazing how many times me and you will be out

1273
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: shopping and people will actually approach me and they asked

1274
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 5: me a question and I'd be like Roger, like I

1275
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 5: automatically shoot them towards you, like I won't answer their question,

1276
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 5: depends on what it is, and shoot them towards you.

1277
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 5: Because one of those things, No, no, no, no, you're

1278
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: not going to use me as a way to break

1279
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 5: this up or try to.

1280
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: It's definitely a thing that, yeah, like shopping experience is

1281
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: definitely a good example, because you know, they go after

1282
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: the person they think is the most like the weeks

1283
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: is quote unquote, the most enthusiastic, the most aiming, the polease,

1284
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: and they figure, well, the other person will want them

1285
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: to be happy, so they're just gonna do whatever they

1286
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: tell them to do. It's like, oh, you're gonna let you,

1287
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: you know, time shares. They have a couple comes there

1288
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: for a time share. They normally go after the person

1289
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: without the money, the person the person they expect to

1290
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: be like sold on this, and then basically they now

1291
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: it's both of us, one against the person with the money,

1292
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, hell, you really gonna.

1293
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: Let your girlfriend now have time?

1294
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: Shall you don't want a timeshare down every two summers

1295
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: or whatever?

1296
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: You know, Like it's that thing.

1297
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: So anyway, let's get to these steps we've kind of

1298
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: talked around it.

1299
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: The first one is hovering.

1300
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: Normal people respect that you might need time when the

1301
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: relationship ends before attempting to be friends, et cetera.

1302
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: Narcisists have no such respect.

1303
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: As such, they will typically do what I like to

1304
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: call hovering and try to make sure that they are

1305
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: still on your mind.

1306
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: Spot the signs. If you go to school together, work together.

1307
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: They might look like a narciss suddenly sitting closer to

1308
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: you if you had an opportunity, probably in your eye line.

1309
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: You might observe the narcists being particularly loud, and they

1310
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: interactions with others when you're in their boy of course, finally,

1311
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: they may make surprise appearances at events that usually they

1312
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: still steer clear of. If they skip the office holiday

1313
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: party three years in a row, they'll just have to

1314
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: attend this one, despite the potential for awkward posts. Break

1315
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: up energy. That energy, the kind that feels you with

1316
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: dread anxiety, is exactly what the narcisst fees off of.

1317
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: To the narcisst all the worlds all the world's a stage,

1318
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: and they'll be damn if you aren't paying attention to

1319
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: their elaborate one man's show. If you have mutual friends,

1320
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: they'll start dropping your name casually around them.

1321
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: After breakup.

1322
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: Your mutual friends will typically understand you need some time

1323
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: before hearing about your exes every five minutes, especially if

1324
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: the breakup was upsetting you, but by mentioning you in

1325
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: a very casual way. Given impression to things between you

1326
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: are good or have been healed, not to mention putting

1327
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: your relationship on the mutual friends' mind, the narciss sets

1328
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: themselves up to be mentioned to you by the mutual friends.

1329
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: That's some calculating shit.

1330
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: If you're on social media, the narcisists may start flooding

1331
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: their own page with more activity than usual. It is

1332
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: unlikely that they will actually post anything to your timeline directly,

1333
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: or even tag or mention you on anything. They aren't

1334
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: trying to validate you, after all, they're simply trying to

1335
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: get your attention. However, if over time the narciss suspects

1336
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: you aren't looking at the activity, get ready for them

1337
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 2: to start arbitrarily liking and loving your post. Is very

1338
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: unlikely that they will actually leave a comment or interact

1339
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: with you on social media in any substantial way, but

1340
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: by liking things, they keep their name popping up on

1341
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: your alerts or on your timeline, both which will trigger

1342
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: an emotional response if you haven't gotten over them yet,

1343
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 2: especially if they decide to love something.

1344
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: That's real.

1345
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also very a difficult one too. Via social media,

1346
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: because you know alike or something like that could be coincidental,

1347
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: could be an olive branch, or it could be somebody

1348
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: basically being like look at me, look at me, look

1349
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: at me.

1350
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 4: You know.

1351
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, we have all these tools now, like I

1352
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: always talk.

1353
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: About social media, we have all these tools that fit

1354
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: right into these categories. I wonder if we'll start finding

1355
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: new mental health conditions or it will just start eventually.

1356
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: Someone will have to be able to study all this

1357
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 2: data we have given them via social media and see

1358
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: how people's personality is attached to it and how people

1359
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: use it, and if we can diagnose or at least

1360
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: observed from that.

1361
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 4: I agree.

1362
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, when you start trying to break up with

1363
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: on the first thing is they start hoving around and

1364
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: and I've had I've had that happen to me where

1365
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: it's just like all right, well me and you ain't cool, cool,

1366
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: got it, no need for me to stress out. And

1367
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: then it's like all of a sudden, it's hopping up

1368
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: in our chat, it's email in it's social media. Ha

1369
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 2: ha haa everything, you're the greatest again. It's like, wait

1370
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: a minute, you don't fuck with me, you don't like me,

1371
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: you just told me, you know, you just cut me off.

1372
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 3: What is happening?

1373
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: Re idolization slash devaluation. The narcissus is idolization and devaluation

1374
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: as a way to facilitate your insecurity and dependence on

1375
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: them during your relationship by covertly or even overtly criticizing

1376
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: your abilities, dreams, goals, ac polishments, et cetera. They made

1377
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: your made you question your worth, all while peppering the

1378
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 2: random moments of idolization so that they became your only

1379
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: source of validation.

1380
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: Post relationship will use a similar technique.

1381
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: If they hear you are looking for a new job

1382
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: in a new field, they may criticize that ambition by

1383
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: suggesting the job you're thinking about isn't really that great

1384
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: and that the field isn't very prestigious, or that there

1385
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: isn't much money to be made there.

1386
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1387
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: Like, I think this happens a lot where people start

1388
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: downplaying the shit, you know.

1389
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: I think really, once.

1390
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: We became podcasters, this was something I would experience because it's, Oh,

1391
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: you're the greatest ever and then your little podcast.

1392
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: You know, you're like, what happened?

1393
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: Damn it was the greatest.

1394
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh we was the smartest, blackest best people ever

1395
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: in that we ain't shit.

1396
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: Oh you posted about us every day every episode. Now

1397
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: it's crooked.

1398
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: Like I said, if y'all, we've been doing this almost

1399
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 5: ten years, so y'all, over these years, we have literally

1400
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 5: seen it all.

1401
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: We have seen it all multiple times.

1402
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: That's what it's like, a cycle.

1403
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: That's why reading this was so validating for me, because

1404
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I've seen this multiple times, and

1405
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: I had started getting back feelings about people before shit

1406
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: even happened.

1407
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: I'll be like, this person's not gonna this ain't gonna work.

1408
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 4: Out, This relationship ain't gonna last.

1409
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, this is where them feelings is

1410
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: coming from, because I could pick up on these fucking

1411
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: things happening anyway. Triangulation Narcissists use triangulation during relationships to

1412
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: create insecurity and are victims by evoking a sense of competition.

1413
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: Constantly mentioned ex lovers, the boss that's always hitting on them,

1414
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: with a hot person on the line for the bathroom,

1415
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: that made a pass of them while you were sitting

1416
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: at the bar. This is all textbook triangulation. Uh yeah,

1417
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: I've also experienced this. It's fuck your podcast. Let me

1418
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: tell you the best podcast. All these other podcasts are

1419
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: directly adjacent to yours. The greatest love them. Like okay, okay,

1420
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 2: all right, we get along with everybody, so I don't

1421
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: really give a fuck, but okay, and.

1422
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 5: Like I said, yeah, and I said, we've been doing

1423
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 5: this for a long time, so like it's cycles, like

1424
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 5: over the years, you'll see the same different people.

1425
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy though.

1426
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 2: And also this stage, and I will get to it later,

1427
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: but this stage, to me is when they also are

1428
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: finding new victims. Because narcissists always have a new victim,

1429
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: a new relationship they's siphoning the energy off of So

1430
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: in this everyone next to you is the greatest. So

1431
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm no longer being your friend, but I'm buddy buddy

1432
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: with everybody else. This is also that that that that

1433
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: moment where they're where they're idolized. They're doing idolization to

1434
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: the new people correct and they're going, Wow, this person.

1435
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: Really likes me. This is so great, you know.

1436
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: So this is meant to feel self doubt they created

1437
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: during your relationship to support the illusion that they are

1438
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: a wonderful person who just couldn't love you because you

1439
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: aren't lovable. But now that they found someone who is.

1440
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: They're in a happy relationship devoid of any problems. You

1441
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: suppose unlovableness, cause the truth is that the narciss is

1442
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: still the same shitty person you date.

1443
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 4: It.

1444
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: They might magic, they haven't magically transformed to a better person,

1445
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: and they are in fact treating the person they're dating now. Uh,

1446
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: if they are no better than they treated you than

1447
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: it's only temporary. Yeah, That's that's one thing, man, I've

1448
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: learned over the years. I don't even stress it because

1449
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: whatever relationships a person that is fucked up like that forms,

1450
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: they will fuck that up eventually too. Oh yeah, and

1451
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: then whatever that person has been told about you, they

1452
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: will eventually go. Oh so they just what they did

1453
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: to you, they're doing to me now.

1454
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: I can't believe I.

1455
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: Just took their word for what the fuck they said

1456
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: about you, and I didn't have to sue nobody, ag

1457
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: Sean Kinge, this is just, you know, I just let

1458
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: the we're at the point now where we can just

1459
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: kind of let let this hit work out. Uh, dropping

1460
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: bread crumbs. Bread crumbs. So apparently chromes are a little

1461
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: bit as a positive attention that your narcist feeds you

1462
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: once the relationship is shifted to keep you invested even

1463
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: though you aren't happy anymore. So this is intermitute reinforcement.

1464
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: The crumbs they feed you provide glimpses of the beginning

1465
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: of the relationship, offering the illusion that there's still a

1466
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: chance things can return to the original retail at once was.

1467
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 3: But it came Oh no will because.

1468
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: The narcisst doesn't really have real healthy feelings for you.

1469
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: Often the narcisst will drop a bread crumb like I

1470
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: just want you to know that I still love you,

1471
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: followed by radio silence. Bruh. Even though these kinds of

1472
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: attensions they seem positive, validating, especially after narcissis discarded you,

1473
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 2: it isn't positive.

1474
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: Or validating at all.

1475
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: These things are only meant to a firm maintain you

1476
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: continue interesting in them. Yup uh. The reset button. Narcists

1477
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: love to hit the reset button. They love starting over

1478
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: the narciss at their time, they claim that something major

1479
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 2: has changed. They found Jesus or Buddh or yoga or something,

1480
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: and so now it's like, hey, let's start over, y'all. Hey, look,

1481
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 2: it's all good water under the bridge, but it's not

1482
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: really one under the bridge. And as soon as they

1483
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: come back, they start the ship over again.

1484
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 4: Right, because nothing has been repaired.

1485
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 5: We haven't taught, we haven't discussed, we haven't really fixed

1486
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 5: or actually had a conversation about it.

1487
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1488
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: It was because it wasn't like because then it also

1489
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: allows them to not be blamed.

1490
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: It's like, no, it was.

1491
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 2: This other thing that made me be that way. It

1492
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: wasn't the responsibility for myself or any ability, right, it was.

1493
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for this, I would have been a

1494
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: good person to you. But now I got that fixed,

1495
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: so we can just work this out. And it's like, no,

1496
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: because there was shiit between us that I don't like

1497
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 2: and if we don't fix that, it's just gonna come back.

1498
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm willing to fix it, but are you?

1499
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 5: Uh?

1500
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: This one's my favorite smear campaign. This is a narcisist

1501
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: last resort and trying to get you to give them

1502
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: the attention and supply that they need to survive. Now,

1503
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: this one is the fucking worst one, is the trashiest one.

1504
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: But I really feel like after the last couple of years,

1505
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: I've really become immune to this one, you know, to

1506
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: a certain extent. I don't know that that's good. I

1507
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: don't know that that's good, but I feel like I've

1508
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: become kind of like, well, fuck it. Then go out

1509
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: there and lie and see who believes you're bullshit.

1510
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 5: You have to be to an extent, because you would

1511
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 5: driving mother fucking crazy because the things people gonna talk

1512
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 5: about you. And over the years we have dealt with,

1513
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 5: it's a lot of shit we don't tell the fans.

1514
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: We have dealt with some motherfucking goddamn it loom that

1515
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 5: takes y'all, Like I'm talking about like people that will

1516
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 5: actually go and seek their followers and tell their followers

1517
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 5: to actually come at us, right, you know, multiple times

1518
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 5: a year, you know. And so it's one of those

1519
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 5: things to and we just block and mute and keep

1520
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 5: it trucking. We don't say anything because it's not that

1521
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 5: important and they're not that important because a lot of

1522
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 5: times it's about their attention.

1523
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so, yeah, it is that thing though, that

1524
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: that SMER campaign is the toughest one because it's hard

1525
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: to let somebody lie on you and you had a

1526
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 2: truth and you got it, and you're like, but engaging

1527
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: them is what they.

1528
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 4: Want, right.

1529
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 5: The worst thing you could do to somebody like this

1530
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 5: is to give them no attention like that is when

1531
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 5: I tell you, that's the fucking worst thing you can

1532
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 5: do is to be like, you know what, I don't

1533
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 5: have time. There's other more important things in my life.

1534
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: You cannot tie up no more of my time.

1535
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: And then the other thing too, is at the end

1536
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: of the day, this is the last age. So it's

1537
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: the toughest one to make it through. But if you

1538
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: don't make it through it, really you kind of end

1539
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: up starting over correct and having to go back to

1540
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: part one, and it's like, no, fuck that.

1541
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1542
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,839
Speaker 2: To understand this technique, you have to understand narcissistic personality disorder.

1543
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: People who suffer from MPD have no real sense of self.

1544
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: They're an amalgam of the opinions of others, which is

1545
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: why they surround themselves with an affirming harem and need

1546
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: a constant stream of attention and attention coming from.

1547
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 3: As many people as possible.

1548
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: If this is not a fucking read, it is why

1549
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: they lash out so violently at anything they even perceive

1550
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: to be a criticism come on. Their inflated self image

1551
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 2: is false, thus making it fragile, which is why they

1552
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: obsessively and tirelessly seek to protect to protect it by

1553
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 2: any means.

1554
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: That's the real shit though.

1555
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and because of social media, you have.

1556
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 5: Social media is a perfect platform to allow people to

1557
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 5: do these things because people have always been like this,

1558
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: but it's been like an off line thing, right.

1559
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: Cause, like, if my thing is, people are gonna critique

1560
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: no matter what, whether it's fair or not. Whatever the

1561
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: fuck that's I mean, it sucks, but it's part of

1562
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: all being putting your shit out in public. Now, I

1563
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to be friends with the motherfuckers that

1564
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: got something bad to say about me, but I'm not

1565
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: going at them. Like if I catch somebody saying some

1566
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: wild shit about me, you know what I do, all right,

1567
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: Well cool, I'm not fucking with them no more. I'm

1568
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: not gonna fight them. I'm not gonna tell people about them.

1569
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say, let's go get this person that

1570
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: it's their right to have an opinion of me correct

1571
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: that I don't have to agree with and I don't

1572
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: need to defend myself or whatever.

1573
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 3: If they believe it, they believe it.

1574
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: And that's something that it took a long time to

1575
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: learn that during this show, you know, because It's not

1576
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: like we knew the show was gonna be.

1577
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: As big as it is and it still could get

1578
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:46,879
Speaker 3: bigger or whatever.

1579
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: But you know, it was something I had to learn

1580
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 2: because there was a time when if you wrote something

1581
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 2: critical or said something.

1582
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, what the fuck? Like really, dog,

1583
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: you you know this?

1584
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 2: And I know listening to other podcasters, it seems like

1585
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: it's also part of the podcasts.

1586
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: It's part of the growth process.

1587
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 5: Yes, it's part of growth because some of the things

1588
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 5: and some of the hurdles that we went through years ago,

1589
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 5: when you know, we kind of bets at this. You'll

1590
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 5: listen to the shows and you see how they respond.

1591
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 5: You go, oh, okay, right, this ship must be this

1592
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 5: shit is because whatever's finny goes okay, this is new

1593
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 5: to you, Like yeah, like you're gonna have to get

1594
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 5: used to.

1595
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 4: This, sus you ain't gonna be able to function all.

1596
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: And it's also just a stage at some point. I

1597
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: also feel like when you sound more secure and shit,

1598
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: people leave you alone a little bit more.

1599
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: Yes they do, or when they think you're more established.

1600
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: It's not that the things don't bother you, but they

1601
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: just their mind changes of like well they got so

1602
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: many episodes, and they've been doing this for so long,

1603
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: and well they must know what they're doing. So I'm

1604
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: not gonna write that mean letter I was gonna write,

1605
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: or just you know, honestly, we stopped feeding those people attention.

1606
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: I used to do this thing where someone write in

1607
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 2: a bad email or something. I'll take a screenshot and

1608
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: be like, man, look at this shit, y'all. Uh, you know,

1609
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: and make and do this whole thing, you know, And

1610
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: in our Facebook group, somebody would violate one of the

1611
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: rules and just be so mean and disrespectful.

1612
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo, we don't need this.

1613
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: I write this long ass post and eventually I'm like,

1614
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm still rewarding it with the attention that they wanted

1615
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: from me. If I was, if I removed myself from

1616
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: the equation, maybe less people will act this way.

1617
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,520
Speaker 3: You know, if I removed myself from posting.

1618
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: Your your your your weird stockery email, maybe I'll get

1619
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 2: less weird stockery emails.

1620
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 4: And guess what we did.

1621
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 5: And also a lot of times we get them, we

1622
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 5: just don't read them, right, A lot of them we

1623
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 5: don't read them, We delete them.

1624
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 4: We block it.

1625
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 5: I'm not you know, if you're still listen and we

1626
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 5: don't get it. And also it's one of the things

1627
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 5: where that's why we changed our five star review policy,

1628
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 5: because we used to have a five star review policy,

1629
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 5: but we were like, we would read a five star

1630
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 5: reregardless of what you say, and people would just troll

1631
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 5: it to just and not troll it in a funny

1632
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 5: hot hot the joke, but in the meanway.

1633
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 4: But after we was like.

1634
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 5: We're not reading your fucked up five star review. Them

1635
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 5: bit to stop coming in like that.

1636
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, and then the other thing I love about

1637
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 2: this is they remind you like their perception and their

1638
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: reputation is based on a bunch of like a house

1639
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: of cards. So that's why they're constantly rotating friends relationships,

1640
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: constantly finding a new person to say is the best

1641
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: person ever, while every person behind them was the worst

1642
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: person ever.

1643
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,919
Speaker 3: But Nigga y'all was just friends, So what was that about.

1644
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: That's why they're constantly doing that because they have to

1645
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: kind of ride this wave, you know, of I'm the.

1646
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 3: Greatest, I'm goretiest, I'm the greatest. Look look at this person.

1647
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: They think I'm the greatest, and then when you go, well,

1648
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: this person back here doesn't think you're the greatest, and

1649
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 2: it's like, ah, they have to attack you. While narciss

1650
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: just learned to imitate other people, they can never really

1651
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: understand them. The only perception perspective they truly understand is

1652
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: their own. That's why narciss attack the victim's reputation as

1653
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 2: a last resort. The narciss's reputation is the most important

1654
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: thing they have because quite frankly, it's the only thing

1655
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: they have. It's integral to the survival of the false

1656
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: self image, Losing underesteined reputation, the good opinion of others,

1657
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: having the word the world see the true face behind

1658
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 2: the beautiful mask is literally a narcissist worst nightmare.

1659
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,839
Speaker 3: If that would have happened, they would be destroyed.

1660
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: Therefore, when seeking to destroy you, they set out to

1661
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: destroy your reputation. They assume that, like them, it's the

1662
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: thing you value the most, and like a lot of

1663
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: us are a paranoid about that. You know, most people

1664
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: are like I want my good name, want a good word.

1665
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 2: And so you, especially, like I said, once you get

1666
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 2: to the Internet, it's changed the game. Yeah, because before

1667
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: this it would be like maybe somebody said something about

1668
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: you at work.

1669
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 3: But that's a handful of people.

1670
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Now it's I'm telling a thousand people on the internet

1671
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: that you ain't shit and you fucked up and this

1672
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: is where or just you know, some hanging around the

1673
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: bush bullshit. And it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute,

1674
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I'm gonna have to say something because

1675
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: this person is doing da da da.

1676
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: But that's the trick.

1677
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 4: That's the trick.

1678
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 2: The trick is to respond you feel that way, but

1679
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: ultimately you really don't have to go back and forth

1680
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 2: with them, unlike the narcissist. However, your petation it's not

1681
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: the only thing you have. More importantly, your reputation's not

1682
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 2: made up of shallow social interactions and artificial charm. It's

1683
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: vital that you keep this in mind when you're narcis

1684
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: launches here a her smear campaign. That was the thing

1685
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: that pulled me from the brink, because I was ready

1686
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: to burn shit down last year and wouldn't have gave

1687
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: no fucks till much later, I'm sure, but.

1688
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the thing that pulled me from the brink.

1689
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: Was just like, but I all my niggas know I'm real,

1690
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: Like I don't have to fake for.

1691
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: Anybody, and I'm authentic and you can come.

1692
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: You know, my friends talk to me and they my

1693
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: friends can tell me they disagree with something and I'm

1694
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 2: not like trying to kill them and shit, like you know,

1695
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: I don't have a litmeal bodies of friends of yesteryear

1696
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: that we don't talk to no more, and they not

1697
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: and if you're ask them about me, they'll be like

1698
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: fuck that nigga, Like I don't have those. And you

1699
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: have to just remember, like, oh wait, I'm the one

1700
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: that's real here. You were gas like me in the

1701
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: thinking we like this was some even battle. But you're

1702
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 2: just a a fake monster.

1703
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 3: You're a losion.

1704
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: You're a smoke monster and and I'm not you know,

1705
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 2: and that and that's the thing that I think they

1706
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: feed off of, you know, So that's like the last resort,

1707
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: but yeah, they go on some more. Uh, your reputation

1708
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: is not made up of shallow social interactions and artificial charms.

1709
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: So you know, you have to make sure you have

1710
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: a sense of self. Like the narciss you do have

1711
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: a sense of self. You're sowhere independent of your current circumstances,

1712
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: including where you live, where you work, your current job,

1713
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: tight on who you are dating to take all those

1714
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: things away and you still are someone change all those

1715
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: things and you're still you.

1716
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 3: Yep, you know.

1717
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: And in a way, I have to like thank the

1718
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: people that brought me to that, you know what, I mean,

1719
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: to be honest, I have to think that, but like

1720
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: not in some like oh my god, you're the greatest,

1721
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: but just in like, yo, I really helped find you

1722
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: help me find myself grow. Yeah, you help me find

1723
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: myself better, like you helped me be like no, no,

1724
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: no, no no. My parents raise a good person, a strong person.

1725
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: I take in good things, I put out good things

1726
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: like you help me to develop that assuredness. Because it's

1727
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: so weird that people that are really fucked up walking

1728
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: around with that assuredness all the time. I mean, look

1729
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: at Kevin Hart, been not apologizing, apologizing for a week,

1730
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: and you know, he says, I'm a good person, I'm

1731
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: not a monster.

1732
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: The end.

1733
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear nothing else anybody I got

1734
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: to say. And you're like, damn, but that's kind of

1735
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: fucked up Kevin. But how does he get that certainty?

1736
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: And then there are people that I legitimately look at

1737
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: and go, nah, you're you're doing a good job with

1738
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: your life and everything. You're putting out good shit into

1739
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: this world. And that person, if I sat them down,

1740
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 2: would be like, I don't feel like a good person.

1741
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm doing the right things. I'm

1742
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 2: always worried that I'm a fuck up.

1743
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 4: Trying to challenge yourself to be a better person.

1744
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: Right, And so there's some goodness in that, right, in

1745
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: constantly examining yourself. But then there's also this point where

1746
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: it's like, at what point you're gonna take credit for

1747
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: the fact that, Yo, I do know what the fuck

1748
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I've adulted this thing for forty years now,

1749
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: I figure hear some of this stuff out. It's not

1750
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: all trash. And I can't let one person make me

1751
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: feel that way. I can't let one individual not being

1752
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: happy with me turn me into you know, cello, where I'm.

1753
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 3: Just like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing anymore. So,

1754
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, but that is what they're depending on.

1755
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 5: Of course, and because I know that that means something

1756
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 5: to people, and so that that's kind of the trick.

1757
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 5: That's kind of what they use against you, and you know,

1758
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 5: and even with relationships, you know, people are in your

1759
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,879
Speaker 5: life for reasons and seasons and all that good stuff,

1760
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 5: and even at the end of relationships, regardless of sometimes

1761
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 5: of how it ends, you don't even have any animosity.

1762
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 5: Like you said, you're like, oh, okay, I learned something

1763
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 5: from this relationship. It didn't work out. Okay, I'm a

1764
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 5: better person because of this.

1765
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1766
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: I think partially because of the whole I get a

1767
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: gut feeling right away type thing.

1768
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: I've been able to just be like, yeah, I'm.

1769
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: Not even mad at you, right.

1770
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, I'm looking at you

1771
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: going that's my fault.

1772
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: I tried to cross the river with a scorpion, and

1773
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.

1774
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1775
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: But and the main thing for me out of all

1776
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: this has been not letting it rob me of new

1777
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: relationships and still building friendships because you know, it's easy

1778
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: to go no new friends, no new niggas, Uh, leave

1779
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 2: me the fuck alone. That's but ultimately, man, it's more

1780
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 2: important to be true to yourself, right, And it's not

1781
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: true to myself to cut off everybody that ain't me.

1782
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: And that's really what ultimately folks want, especially when we

1783
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: built this by being the first fucking podcast that was

1784
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, let's reach out to everybody, you

1785
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, Okay, I look like, let's

1786
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: be on each other's shows, let's talk, let's be friends,

1787
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: let's you know, and we've developed some really meaningful, true friendships.

1788
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: They keep that keep making it through the bullshit, right

1789
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: Like when this kind of stuff happens, it's so funny

1790
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: that it never tears apart the people that we really

1791
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: have built these relationships with with. If anything, a lot

1792
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: of times it brings us closer because we do keep

1793
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: a lot of shit to the vest. But it's so

1794
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: much stuff that you think in your mind because this

1795
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: is what they want you to think, you think you're

1796
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 2: along correct, and so you're like, nobody else is seeing

1797
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: what I'm going through. And then people will come through

1798
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 2: and be like, nah, I've seen that. That's crazy. That

1799
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 2: person is trash. They're fucked up for that, And I

1800
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: saw it the whole time, and you know, you've actually

1801
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: been handling it very well. And I'm like, really, you

1802
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: noticed that because I wasn't. To me, I'm like, apparently,

1803
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: you know. I don't want to like rock the boat

1804
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: and make everybody have a bad time, and I don't

1805
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: want to recruit people into some beef type shit, like

1806
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: I just want to live my life and have fun.

1807
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 2: And then you, like I said, you talk to people

1808
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh no, no, no, I PEP came from

1809
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: a long time ago.

1810
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, people pay attention. It's a lot of a lot

1811
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people.

1812
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 5: And some people might never reach out to us and

1813
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 5: might never interact with us on social media what soil,

1814
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 5: but they follow us and they see us a line,

1815
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,480
Speaker 5: and they see things kind of like me sometimes I'm

1816
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 5: very observant, and they see how we interact with people,

1817
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 5: and they see how we handle situations, and they and

1818
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 5: they see how we respond, and they might not ever

1819
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 5: come and tell us that, hey, I think you handled

1820
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 5: as well. But it's a lot of people that see

1821
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 5: things and actually see these people's patterns and actually see

1822
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 5: them going from here to there and and and may

1823
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 5: have even had interactions with some of these people themselves

1824
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 5: that some positive, some negative, and may even feel the

1825
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 5: same way we do they, like I said, because they

1826
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 5: are the type of people that a lot of people

1827
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 5: just kind of what kind of just kind of creep

1828
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 5: around on the internet and in a bad way.

1829
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 4: But just you know, they're on the internet, but they're

1830
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 4: not very vocal, but they're there and they exist in

1831
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 4: these circles. And a lot of times those people kind

1832
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 4: of get washed up beneath the water.

1833
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 5: Just because they're not yelling and hey, I'm here, it

1834
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 5: does not mean that they're not looking.

1835
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: And also a lot of times the end result is

1836
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 4: to make you as miserable as they are.

1837
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: So a lot of times they try to steal your joy,

1838
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 5: your peace, your happiness, you know, they try to steal

1839
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 5: your friends.

1840
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 4: They try to strip you away of everything that they.

1841
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 5: Think means something, or everything that they think that matters

1842
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 5: to you. So you could be as angry and fucking

1843
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 5: as bitter as they are. And the thing at the

1844
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 5: end of the day is about getting your attention by

1845
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 5: any means necessary.

1846
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: And they want you to feel isolated, right.

1847
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 5: And also it's one of those things where they want

1848
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 5: any interaction with you, be it a positive one or

1849
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 5: a negative one.

1850
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 4: They want the interaction with you. And so the hardest

1851
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 4: thing to do is to get past the part where

1852
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 4: you go no, no, no, no, no no no, you get.

1853
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 5: No interaction with me whatsoever, you know, And that's a

1854
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 5: hard place to get to for a lot of people.

1855
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 5: But if you do in the middle of this, just

1856
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 5: know that the best thing to do is just know

1857
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 5: that there is another side to it, and once you

1858
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 5: get to the other side, you'll feel better once you

1859
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 5: actually completely do that separation, because the thing is they

1860
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 5: have done everything to let you know that the relationship

1861
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 5: is dead, and a lot of times they lean on

1862
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 5: you to try to constantly revive a relationship that's already dead.

1863
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 5: If it's dead, baby bury it, give it a funeral,

1864
01:25:58,840 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 5: and go on with your life.

1865
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1866
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: I know for me as a person that's like a

1867
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: relationship perfectionist, it is that, oh maybe I can fix

1868
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 2: this part of me that would keep me hanging on.

1869
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes well I'm like, oh no, no, no, whatever's broken

1870
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: this This was broken before I showed up, and I'm

1871
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: not the one that can fix it. Like, whatever's going

1872
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: on they need to, whether it's therapy, whether it's some

1873
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: relationships that they had with other people in the past

1874
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 2: that have set them on a path, or repeating these

1875
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: type of things. We all see you're hurt, we all

1876
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: see that you're having issues. We all see the patterns

1877
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. Only you can fix that,

1878
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: you know. I like, at some point i'd be the narcissist.

1879
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: You walk in there and be like, it's gonna be

1880
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: different from me, you know, And I never really believe that.

1881
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: I always though, well, people gonna treat you how they

1882
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: treat everybody else for the most part. So if you

1883
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: see them doing this shit to other people, you know,

1884
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be you at some point on the

1885
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 2: summer Jam screen.

1886
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 5: Right, And my thing, I don't I pay attention to

1887
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 5: how you treat me, but I pay more attention to

1888
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 5: how you treat people around me.

1889
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 4: People that you know, you don't think it's.

1890
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 5: Highly of those are the people that I watch. How

1891
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 5: do you interact with them? Do you cuss them out?

1892
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: Do you think those people are the prequels?

1893
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 4: Right now?

1894
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 5: On that that those people are so other people? So

1895
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 5: you know how you treat them. I'm you know, exception

1896
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 5: to your rule.

1897
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 4: Nobody is fucking special.

1898
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 5: Nobody is that great or grant or excellent in their

1899
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 5: life that at some period of the time and their

1900
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 5: life they won't get got. So it's amazing when you

1901
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 5: look on social media online and all these people with

1902
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 5: all these lives. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that.

1903
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 5: You ain't gonna get me. I'm not gonna get stamned.

1904
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 5: Everybody is a sucker at some period in their life,

1905
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 5: and that's fucking life you live and you learn.

1906
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at the other people because they

1907
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: the prequel to what's gonna happen to you. That's how

1908
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: I do. And so that's why certain people I don't

1909
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: even get that close to because I'm like, you know,

1910
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't And by the way, doesn't.

1911
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 3: Mean I'm staying offish. I mean I'm rude.

1912
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: No, I'm still polite, I'm still a professional, I'm still

1913
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 2: courteous because that is me. So you can't let it

1914
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: violate the core values of yourself. I'm not gonna let

1915
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 2: you turn me into some fucking mean person that I'm not.

1916
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm looking around like, okay,

1917
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: so one day it's gonna be.

1918
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Me that you're taking a swipe at.

1919
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 2: Because you took a swipe at this other person I

1920
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: thought you was cool with, and you took a swipe

1921
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: at this other person that you used to be cool

1922
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 2: with and you took this. So one day it's gonna

1923
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: be one thing. And with this podcast. It really has

1924
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: been enlightening because the same way someone chooses the TV

1925
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: show right, you watch the TV show you love it,

1926
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: one episode you don't like, and then people started going

1927
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: to the TV show shit right, Right. I never lose

1928
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: that part of me that's like, we are essentially the

1929
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 2: same as that TV show. We get one episode, one opinion,

1930
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: one thing, one thing, and then it could literally be

1931
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 2: that and then and the person is like, you went

1932
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: from my fas to the least pas just like that.

1933
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: And if you don't have that sort of humility about

1934
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: what you're doing and that sort of realism about what

1935
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: you're doing, then you're gonna end up being hurt all

1936
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: the time. So I can't I can't allow that to

1937
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 2: sneak into what we do. It's Tina hockey coach said

1938
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: when he got off of Twitter. It's like I had

1939
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 2: to stop taking in bad shit because I want to

1940
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 2: put out good stuff. So if I'm taking in bullshit

1941
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: and then trying to put out something some work, that's

1942
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 2: what my work is gonna be bullshit. So it's like

1943
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: I monitor that stuff too, where I'm like, okay, cool,

1944
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: you don't fuck with us, no more, no pressure.

1945
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm moving on.

1946
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Uh, you gonna gonna gonna go about my business and

1947
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: let you not like me in peace?

1948
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 4: Right, And it's not and it's not thinking.

1949
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 5: It's not even a personal slight. The thing is, we

1950
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 5: are okay with people not liking us. And I think

1951
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 5: that is so hard for people to understand because some people.

1952
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 4: Who get, oh, hold steeze is I don't like you.

1953
01:29:59,439 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 4: I don't like it.

1954
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 5: I don't like you, and I want you to know

1955
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 5: I don't like you, okay, not like me over there,

1956
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 5: right and not like me to your heart's content.

1957
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck if you like me or

1958
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 4: not like I don't have a problem with that.

1959
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 5: And if I see you in the streets, I'm not

1960
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 5: gonna have a problem with I'll speak, hug you a

1961
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 5: what's up, how you doing, how your family, how your life,

1962
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 5: and keep it trucking. It does not have to be

1963
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 5: any negative vibes. But the thing is, I'm at peace

1964
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 5: with that. But but you you're not at peace. But

1965
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 5: that's not my problem.

1966
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: It's hard for people to imagine being at peace like that, right,

1967
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 2: you know, Like when I've said it a million times

1968
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: and I still think people don't care conceive it.

1969
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 3: But this is literally how.

1970
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: I treat my life. You have the right to feel

1971
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 2: how you feel about me, right, It's really not my business.

1972
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 3: If you make it my business.

1973
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then yes we might need to go our

1974
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 2: separate ways or we might have it out. If not,

1975
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: you know, but if it's not my like, it's literally

1976
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 2: not my fucking business. Like I had to make that

1977
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: that exception because if not, you're gonna be one of

1978
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 2: these people searching your name on social media, looking on

1979
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 2: all the forms and the blogs, seeing what people got

1980
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: to say, and you're gonna drive yourself insane. Like once

1981
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 2: you get to a point, like I think when people

1982
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 2: here to show sometimes and we talk about celebrity news

1983
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 2: and they're like, man, they always kind of wishy washy,

1984
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: or you know, at least with me probably like he's

1985
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 2: always wishy washy. You can kind of see both sides,

1986
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: because I have kind of seen both sides on just

1987
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 2: the smallest level, and I'm like, oh, this is unhealthy

1988
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: for everybody, right, Like, at some point it's you know,

1989
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 2: we're talking about these people like they're not people, and

1990
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 2: then on the other hand, we're expecting them to respond

1991
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: like they're not humans. And then when they have a

1992
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: human moment. We did them for that too, So it's

1993
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 2: just this kind of weird thing that we see. And

1994
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: then people, I think people hear us talk about it

1995
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: and they're probably like, it's very simple, but they haven't

1996
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 2: been on the other side yet.

1997
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 5: Right, And when a lot of times what I realized too,

1998
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 5: when people talk about social media, you can only talk

1999
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 5: about social media from your experience, and for the average

2000
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 5: person on the Internet, you keep this real.

2001
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,440
Speaker 4: It's no flight or shade against anybody.

2002
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 5: Most people on the Internet, they're not gonna have a

2003
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 5: lot of followers, they're not gonna have a lot of interactions.

2004
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 5: Most people on Internet they don't have nothing to push,

2005
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 5: they don't have nothing to promote. They're out there actually

2006
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 5: for consumption, and that's okay. It's okay to be only

2007
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 5: on the internet for consumption. But for people that produce

2008
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 5: and people that put things out, a lot of times

2009
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 5: their Internet experience is very different. And a lot of

2010
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 5: times when things happen, people go, well, just do this

2011
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 5: and just do that.

2012
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 4: Well, it's really easy for you to say it when.

2013
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 5: You have not been on the other side where you've

2014
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 5: had hundreds of thousands of people respond to a tweet

2015
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 5: when you have you know, your acts just fucking blow

2016
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 5: up with thousands of responds, you know, right, like like

2017
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 5: you've you've never had to deal with that. So it's

2018
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 5: real easy to talk from your experience when you've never

2019
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 5: been on the other side of being bombarded all at once,

2020
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 5: that this person honestly could not handle it and couldn't

2021
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 5: deal with it and couldn't go through with it. They

2022
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 5: just think they can, but that's not the reality of it.

2023
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 5: And some of them want to bring up too is

2024
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 5: that a lot of times?

2025
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: And we've talked about it before.

2026
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 5: What's so funny is that a lot of times people

2027
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 5: don't really have problems with me.

2028
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 4: Most of the time.

2029
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 5: If anybody falls out with this podcast a one hundred

2030
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 5: percent falling out with you, I am a byproduct of

2031
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 5: them falling out with you. And I've come to the

2032
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 5: realization for a lot of people, I'm just afterthought when

2033
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 5: they think.

2034
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: About the show. For the most people, they.

2035
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 5: Think about you, they don't really think about me. There

2036
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 5: are people that are fancy me and they love me,

2037
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 5: please don't get me wrong. But when it comes to

2038
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 5: certain things, and like a lot of the feedback and

2039
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,839
Speaker 5: a lot of the you know I have a problem.

2040
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 5: It's never really targeted towards me.

2041
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2042
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: I think it's a respect thing for one, because I

2043
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: think a lot of times people don't really necessarily respect

2044
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: women's opinions on shit. And then two the optics. It's

2045
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: easier to disagree with this man and try to get

2046
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 2: people on board with it and to be like, let's

2047
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 2: turn everybody against Karen because they know it's not gonna work.

2048
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 2: Like I know that you you think it's just an afterthought.

2049
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: But there's also the part that they know it won't

2050
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 2: work because anytime anybody's written up here said something about you,

2051
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 2: even if I'm like, hey man, so I'm not trying

2052
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 2: to go after this person, you can watch social media

2053
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 2: and everybody be like I'm looking for this motherfucker.

2054
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 3: When I find them. Yeah, so I don't.

2055
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 4: I don't.

2056
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 2: I think, you know, don't underestimate yourself. I think it's

2057
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: also just because the Nazissistic people don't look at it

2058
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: and go.

2059
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 3: Look at this person. They look at it and they go.

2060
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 2: Look at this situation and look at this how can

2061
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 2: I manipulate it? And you're very hard to manipulate people

2062
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 2: into not liking you. Know, like it's easier to do

2063
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 2: it with me. I'm a man, I'm outspoken, I'm opinionated.

2064
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: You know, I talk too much. All that shit. I

2065
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 2: can give you a ton of reasons. That's what's so weird.

2066
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: It's like, motherfucker, is he trying to make not like myself?

2067
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't like myself, Like I don't know why,

2068
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't know why you're trying to do extra work,

2069
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 2: Like you can just let me be to my own

2070
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: devices if you need me to not be so cocky.

2071
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm not very cocky.

2072
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: It just feels that way to you, right, And so

2073
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 2: that's how people respond to it.

2074
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 4: And like I said, I truth be told.

2075
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 5: I can truly say that I am a and not

2076
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 5: to to my own horn, but people that have met

2077
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 5: me in real life and have had real life interaction

2078
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 5: with me, I am a very hard person not to like.

2079
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 5: And I am the type of person that you're not

2080
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 5: trying to be funny. If you don't like me, there's

2081
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 5: something wrong with you.

2082
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: But you know what, though, in all fairness, we both are.

2083
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: We're both hard not to like correct and we're not

2084
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 2: bad people. We're not going around. There are people that legit,

2085
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: Like they go on there radio showing they're like, we're

2086
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 2: killing trans people.

2087
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: It's hilarious, you know what I mean.

2088
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 2: And then they just walk around the earth and fucking

2089
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: get attention, get money, get platforms all the time, and

2090
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: it's just and that is just a thing that happens

2091
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: in this world. Nobody and like they just don't give

2092
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: a fuck if anyone's mad, and they move about it,

2093
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 2: and we care and that's our biggest like it's why

2094
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 2: our show is dope. But it's also like the biggest

2095
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: thing that bothers us is being like, man, I wish

2096
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 2: everybody could understand that we're trying our best and we're

2097
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: doing we're not scientists, were not fucking PhDs or just

2098
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: giving our opinions.

2099
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 3: We're making this up as we go. We're not journalists.

2100
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 3: We're just like.

2101
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 5: Nope, it's you know, and sometimes, particularly doing the podcast game,

2102
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 5: particularly the way we're doing it, we're out We're already

2103
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 5: outside of the box being marginalized people. We're outside of

2104
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 5: the box where we're actually making a profit off of

2105
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 5: We're outside of the box.

2106
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 4: So to us, it's like.

2107
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 5: You're driving down the road on the unpaid road, right

2108
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 5: and as you go down the road, it kind of

2109
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 5: pays undneath your wheels, like you can see where you've been,

2110
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 5: but as far as where you're going, that's like you

2111
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 5: don't know, and you get there when you get there,

2112
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 5: and that's like a process. And very few people can

2113
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 5: do that because most people are scared to go go

2114
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 5: down the unknown path. But I am so glad that

2115
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 5: we're able to do this and maneuver this in in

2116
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 5: such a way this actually beneficial to us and also

2117
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 5: beneficial to other people because what I've realized.

2118
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 4: To kind of over I guess what I realized over

2119
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 4: the years is that people actually watch us.

2120
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 5: And I never realized over the years how many people

2121
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 5: actually watch us, how many of the podcasts watch us,

2122
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 5: how many others.

2123
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: I did realize immediately. I was already on top of it.

2124
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 4: I'm glad. I'm glad you did because I didn't.

2125
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: I was immediately like, look at them watching me.

2126
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 5: Now.

2127
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 2: The thing is, though we no matter what happens, at

2128
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: the end of this journey, we will have left for blueprint,

2129
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 2: and we will have left the impact on this in

2130
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: a way that can't be a race. And they might

2131
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: not get out of credit for it because of how

2132
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 2: we've done it independently and outside of the kind of

2133
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,919
Speaker 2: you know, the auspices of what has been consider traditional

2134
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 2: media and all that stuff. But we left a blueprint, man,

2135
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, there's confidence in that. But

2136
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 2: like I said, it's the fact that we want to

2137
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: be doing the best that we can. That is the

2138
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 2: thing that a narcissists will use against you because you

2139
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 2: said something. I just want to say, that is the

2140
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: illusion that people that narcissists try to create. Is this

2141
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 2: idea of well, there's these people that aren't happy with you. Yeah,

2142
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 2: but fuck them people. There's not that many of them,

2143
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: and most of them are crazy, so we have to

2144
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 2: have some levity about it and be like, but listen,

2145
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: look at all these people that love us. That's twenty

2146
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 2: eighteen for me. Yeah, twenty eighteen is looking out and

2147
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 2: being like, look at all these people that really really

2148
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 2: really fuck with us, that really love us. That will

2149
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 2: be that were driving LA traffic to see us, that

2150
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 2: will fucking come to Charlotte to see us, that have gone,

2151
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: that'll be in Seattle to see us, that have caught

2152
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 2: planes just to hang out with us for an hour.

2153
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 2: What the fuck do I care? That somebody can't be

2154
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 2: my friend because they can't manipulate me enough that that's enough.

2155
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 2: And and by accident, we accidentally did the stuff we

2156
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,759
Speaker 2: were supposed to do to get rid of a narcissist

2157
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,879
Speaker 2: out of your life. Reading these steps with no contact,

2158
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 2: we ignore them. We ask our mutual friends, hey.

2159
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Hey, x nail on that ship.

2160
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: We're not talking about them, be warrey of who are

2161
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 2: not respectful of, you know, leaving leaving y'all separate, you know, motherfuckers.

2162
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 3: Try to be like, well, let me tell you about.

2163
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, I'm good dog, I'm good on that,

2164
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 2: you know, get away from them from social media and stuff.

2165
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 3: We actually didn't. We accidentally went on social media.

2166
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Died last year quote unquote, like we took a break

2167
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 2: for social media, just on some like this just doesn't

2168
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: feel good. We need to take some time away from

2169
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 2: this and just worry about ourselves, you know.

2170
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 3: And it was very smart enough thing. It helped me

2171
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 3: a lot.

2172
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Obviously didn't have to worry about any money, tithes or whatever,

2173
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 2: because come on, but uh yeah, change your routine if

2174
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: you notice that they you know that they're uh on

2175
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 2: one social media platform or they're hanging out at a

2176
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: certain location. Don't go there anymore. Ignore the attempts to

2177
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 2: malign your reputation. That was the hardest one for me,

2178
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 2: but I did it. Block the phone number. I didn't

2179
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: even have to do it, but it's blocked. Uh. Often

2180
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: people get reluctant to those things because they think they're

2181
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 2: gonna up here weak. But you got to do it

2182
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: because you basically are starving them off of you. And

2183
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: the thing is because they always move on to the

2184
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: next meal, that they will be feeding on someone else

2185
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:36,919
Speaker 2: and not be come back to you eventually.

2186
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 5: Right, so they might come and test and that and

2187
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 5: that's and that's where you have to be strong, because.

2188
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 4: You know initially they might leave for a while. Sometimes

2189
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 4: there might be years. Then they'll come back. And you

2190
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 4: got it.

2191
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 5: But I know I meant what I said, and nah,

2192
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 5: this this right here, this can't work.

2193
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Yep. So all right, we've talked a long time about that.

2194
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 2: Didn't mean to talk so long, but maybe we helped

2195
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: somebody out there. Is because I didn't know this shit

2196
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 2: when we went through it, and I wish I hadn't read.

2197
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: Something like this.

2198
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 2: Now this didn't come out to October last year, so

2199
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 2: you know, I would have needed a time machine. But

2200
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 2: still I wish I would have known what I was,

2201
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 2: what I was experiencing, so that I would so I

2202
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 2: could be prepared to be like, oh, when this happened

2203
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:19,799
Speaker 2: to me, this is just a part of their phase.

2204
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 3: This is a part of their cycle, you know.

2205
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 2: And a lot of people listening, maybe y'all are having

2206
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 2: this in your personal life, family members, social media now,

2207
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 2: which is this new era of how people can connect

2208
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 2: and glom onto you.

2209
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 3: Your friendships and stuff like that.

2210
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: Maybe you're seeing it happen to somebody else and you're like, ya,

2211
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 2: I would like to let them know, like, hey, I

2212
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 2: saw what happened to you, and you're not doing anything wrong,

2213
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: and it's okay that you're handling it by cutting this

2214
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 2: person off or whatever. It could be a lot of stuff,

2215
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:54,719
Speaker 2: you know, So good luck to everybody out there, because

2216
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers are among us, and you never know really

2217
01:41:58,880 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 2: who is and who is it?

2218
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what's the most important is that time will tell.

2219
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,919
Speaker 5: And something I've realized to listen to your good instinct.

2220
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 5: If somebody's around you and something.

2221
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 4: Within you tells you something about them main't right, listen

2222
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 4: to it.

2223
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 5: Because you know that internal thing is normally warning you

2224
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 5: about something, but a lot of times we'll push against

2225
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 5: our own best judgment sometimes, but but listen to it.

2226
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 5: And truly, because we live in an age where everything

2227
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 5: is instant, everything is fast, everything is now, they feed

2228
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 5: on that pushing, push and pushing because they want uh

2229
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 5: because they know they don't have a lot of time

2230
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 5: before before the bridge burns and all that stuff, so

2231
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 5: they trying to rush it, and so they're rushed the beginning,

2232
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 5: and then they're rushed in, you know, instead of just

2233
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 5: letting things take their time. Because I have over the years,

2234
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:54,759
Speaker 5: I have met some wonderful people over there on the internet,

2235
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 5: like so wonderful people that I would.

2236
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 4: Not have into.

2237
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 5: Some of my best friends I've met on the internet.

2238
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 5: And so it's one of these things where the Internet

2239
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 5: is not this deep, dark, terrible place that people portray

2240
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 5: it to be. But also you have to maneuver it

2241
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 5: in a way to understand that there are people out

2242
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 5: there that are trying to get you. So you kind

2243
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 5: of have to weed through things and let time.

2244
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 4: Tell on these people.

2245
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 5: Because if somebody has these characteristics, watch them on social media,

2246
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 5: and most of these people you follow on multiple platforms.

2247
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 5: You follow them on Twitter, on Facebook and Instagram and whatever,

2248
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 5: snapchat or whatever, and a lot of times these behaviors

2249
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 5: go on all these platforms.

2250
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think social media has let us speed

2251
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 2: shit up and know it's good and bad. Like, sometimes

2252
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 2: you can become good friends with somebody, but at the

2253
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 2: same time, it gives the illusion of knowing somebody, the

2254
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 2: illusion of intimacy, and sometimes it's like, oh, I don't

2255
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: really know you at all, you know, and sometimes it's

2256
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 2: too far, it's too late when you find out that,

2257
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: oh I didn't know this person at all.

2258
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 3: They were actually kind of fucked up, right.

2259
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 5: And the thing about it, you will know if you

2260
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 5: have a real true friendship if you say no, no

2261
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 5: I can't come, no I can't do something, or no

2262
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 5: I have to cancel.

2263
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: I always say my my friendships don't really even start

2264
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 2: until we disagree about something, and then how do we

2265
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 2: manage that disagreement? Because conflict resolution is a fucking huge skill, but.

2266
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 4: So many adults don't have it.

2267
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 2: What I was gonna say is, conflict resolution is a

2268
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 2: huge skill, but we are able now to kind of

2269
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: manipulate it and skip past it because you just check

2270
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: off certain boxes. And that's why, Like, I know, it

2271
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 2: comes off like I'm very cynical about social media, But

2272
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I am cynical is stuff like

2273
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 2: you know today when I see people writing open letters

2274
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 2: to get sympathy for oh, Sean King isssuing me, and

2275
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 2: everyone in that person's mentions is like, yes, this is

2276
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 2: so terrible. How can we do this to a black,

2277
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 2: queer person of color and all this stuff? Okay, every

2278
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 2: one of that threat agrees with this person. Right, you

2279
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 2: go over the Shawn King's thread where he's like, this

2280
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 2: person lied on me.

2281
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 3: Every one of that threat agrees with Shaun King.

2282
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 2: Now what's the truth? How can both happen at the

2283
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 2: same time? You know what I'm saying, Like, who have

2284
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 2: we an now surrounded ourselves where it's just checking off

2285
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: the fucking mark cash. You late to the show, You

2286
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 2: have to go all the way back to the beginning

2287
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 2: to hear the podcast when it comes out. But yeah,

2288
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 2: it's like, how can both of those be true at

2289
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 2: the same fucking time? And everybody involved has no real

2290
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: information for you, Like nobody's able to give you the

2291
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 2: advice that if you put your mom on the phone,

2292
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 2: and she and you said, Mom, this is a thing

2293
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,560
Speaker 2: that happened to me. What would your mama say?

2294
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Cause my guess is Sean

2295
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:46,879
Speaker 3: King's mama would probably say.

2296
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: Man, don't suit them. People be above that, son. You

2297
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 2: are about you know, all the social justice shit, and

2298
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 2: if you really about that, then focus on that. And

2299
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: what they think about you will either be proven wrong

2300
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: or they always gonna hate you and it's nothing you

2301
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 2: could do to change that. And even if you get

2302
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 2: them to stop talking about you, someone else will be

2303
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:04,759
Speaker 2: talking about you tomorrow.

2304
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Right, That's what I hope a parent

2305
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 3: would say.

2306
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: And if you're that person, that's like, I'm not taking

2307
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 2: my tweet down unless you have some evidence and you

2308
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: want to go to try out for it. My guess

2309
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: is most of y'all parents would be like, baby, it's

2310
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 2: not even worth it, Like, who cares what that man? Like,

2311
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 2: you already put it out there, people know how you feel.

2312
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 3: Take it back.

2313
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 2: You're not less of a person to take it back,

2314
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 2: like they just gonna know you don't want to go

2315
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 2: to fucking quarter about it, And that's okay. You have

2316
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 2: a full You have a full life ahead of you, career,

2317
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 2: all this stuff that you don't really need to be

2318
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,560
Speaker 2: bothered with this kind of person. So he wants to

2319
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 2: dunk on you on Twitter. It's okay, move on. But

2320
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: you know what, you're not gonna hear that from people.

2321
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 2: You're not gonna hear that from people on the internet

2322
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: because they just want to show they're all gonna be

2323
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 2: like fight fight, fight, fight fight, because they don't really

2324
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 2: give a fuck about your mental well being, or your

2325
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 2: physical wellbeing or your career wellbeing. And I think that

2326
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 2: kind of brings everything we just said full circle. And

2327
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 2: like I said, we've gone off for a long time.

2328
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna play any games today. I'm just

2329
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: gonna do soord ratchetness and get out of here. Just

2330
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 2: a good, serious, talkative, fun, informative episode. Okay, guys, yeah,

2331
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 2: we hope that it.

2332
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 5: You know, somebody's listening and shit like that, honey scope,

2333
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 5: look watch pay.

2334
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: Attention, right, So let's get into sord ratchetiness and get

2335
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 2: out of here, all right?

2336
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 3: Where is it at?

2337
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 2: Police scramble to arrest a fifteen year old with a

2338
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 2: twenty four inch sword word at King's Cross Station, British

2339
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 2: Transport Police. BTP officers were called to remove the team

2340
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 2: from a Great Northern Train service to the station, one

2341
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 2: of the busiest in London. On Saturday afternoon. A sword

2342
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 2: concealed down his trouser leg was seized from him by

2343
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:18,759
Speaker 2: BTP officers.

2344
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 4: Baby trousers yeah woo.

2345
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Said the Swordian parentsy just happy to see me.

2346
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 4: Ah, it's really a sword.

2347
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 2: Lexington is still indeed come on. He was detained and

2348
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 2: is being held in custody. BTP tweeted the picture of

2349
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 2: the large blade, which appears to be a replica sword

2350
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 2: with a gym and crusted handle. Legend of zeldas Nigga should.

2351
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 4: Have still cut you, no matter high replica and replica cuts.

2352
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Sat Baker, British Transport Police tweeted officers were called the

2353
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 2: King's Cross earlier and removed a fifteen year old mail

2354
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 2: from Gnrail UK service. This was concealed down This treasure

2355
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,080
Speaker 2: trouser leg arrested and currently being dealt with in custody.

2356
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: The blade Caesar comes at the time of high anxiety

2357
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,879
Speaker 2: over a knife related violence in the Capitol. Well stabbings

2358
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 2: have raised questions about the police, public funding and gangs.

2359
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something I know it's sad that

2360
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 2: people are getting stabbed in and killed, Okay in Britain

2361
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 2: is real sad, but God, I long for the days

2362
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 2: when it's just a stabbing. America, more people. America is

2363
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 2: so bad. I don't even know. Don't don't even come

2364
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:28,879
Speaker 2: and visit here. It's terrible.

2365
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 5: It's terrible because when have you heard of a hundred

2366
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 5: people got stabbed by one person unless they're a fucking ninja.

2367
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 2: Y'all are living a good life and don't even know it. Okay,

2368
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: stabbing is a problem. Oh, it's too many stablings this year.

2369
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 2: Knife on knife crime, stabbings not hear dog, They just

2370
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 2: killing motherfuckers.

2371
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 3: Can't even send the kids to school. They just shooting

2372
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 3: up to the school, y'all.

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Speaker 2: And Britain they just like I hope I don't get

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 2: stabbed at the school.

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01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 4: That the biggest problem.

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01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 2: Three people were stabbed last yesterday.

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01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 4: One person stabbed, three people wore I know, they broke

2378
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 4: a sweat.

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01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a it is a record yet for stabbings.

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01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 2: There have been six stabbings. Four people have been hurt.

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01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 2: No depths, yeah, no deaths.

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01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 4: I know. And it's one of those things where they're like,

2383
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 4: fuck it.

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01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 5: If you gonna do it, you're gonna have to look

2385
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 5: somebody that goddamn mid You ain't gonna be able to

2386
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 5: do it.

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01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 3: From afar, I'm envious as fuck.

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01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:29,480
Speaker 2: We have to get the semi automatic knife regulations repealed.

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01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 5: The most happened is that somebody had been in a

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01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 5: double blade. Now they could stab two people at once.

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01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 2: He had an a K forty seven and was cutting

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01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 2: up many, many people as they ran by. Seven people

2393
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 2: were stabbed, No, no, no injury.

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01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 4: A loaded semi sword was using this incident.

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01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 2: Six six people were stabbed. They were treated at the

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Speaker 2: scene and released to go home. Meanwhile, it's just like, yep,

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01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 2: so we killed six people to walk into the school.

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01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 2: Come that was just the first class.

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Speaker 3: She said.

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01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: The Home Secretary has some serious his serious violence strategy.

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01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 3: The mayor has his public health approach.

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01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 2: I think everybody's getting to play more and more of

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01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 2: a part is supporting us. What we are now seeing

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01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 2: from what has been a herculean effort from the whole

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01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 2: of the met We are beginning to see that knife

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01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 2: crime has leveled off. The most important indicator to me

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01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: is knife injuries among twenty five year olds seem to

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01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 2: be consistently coming down. Must be nice, all right, y'all.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to y'all Saturday for a feedback show. Tomorrow

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01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: is a doubleheader for me. I'm doing this too much

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01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 2: with BOSSI at ten am in the morning, so get

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01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 2: your feedback in for that if you have any. And

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01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 2: then tomorrow night, me and Justin and powerfully Karen will

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01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 2: probably hop onto doing balls deep and everything tomorrow night.

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01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 2: So and then I think Friday is a nerd off

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01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 2: of everybody's here. So busy, busy ass week, seven whole days,

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01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 2: seven days of working.

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01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk to you all later till then.

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Speaker 3: Peace Peace, I love

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Speaker 2: You, I love you.