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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcasting search out

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Speaker 1: my name Clay Travis, buck Sexton looking at you right

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Speaker 1: now at the YouTube crew, appreciate all of you. You

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Speaker 1: can go subscribe for free. Buck is also waiving at you. Guys.

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Speaker 1: You can go check out video versions of the show.

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Speaker 1: If you don't see us enough on television, you want

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Speaker 1: to know what we look like while we sit and

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Speaker 1: talk into a microphone wearing T shirts. I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: you it's an incredibly riveting video portrayal of the show.

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Speaker 1: Your T shirt collection is exceptional. I will say I'm

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Speaker 1: a T shirt guy myself, and your T shirt game

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Speaker 1: is strong. But Clay for the engagement party, no flip flops,

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Speaker 1: all right, Not even Clay Travis is allowed to wear

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Speaker 1: flip flops of the engagement party. I heard about it,

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Speaker 1: like I got the invite to the engagement party and

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Speaker 1: I saw that I have to wear a jacket. It

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Speaker 1: was at a tie too. I didn't like. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't loan you a tie the last time. I

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Speaker 1: don't even if I have to borrow ties back from

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Speaker 1: my freshman in high school as to wear ties to

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Speaker 1: school every now and then. I have a worn a

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Speaker 1: tie a long time. So I know the whole first hour,

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Speaker 1: first of all intelligent, and I would put us on

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Speaker 1: the line here calling the shot a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: would bet that we will be the best in the

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Speaker 1: entire media at covering the complexities, the legal angles, all

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Speaker 1: of the details surrounding what might be, frankly, a multi

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Speaker 1: year investigation and indictment and then legal process that could

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Speaker 1: play out surrounding Donald Trump. I would bet that we

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Speaker 1: will on this show do better from a media perspective

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Speaker 1: covering this in almost anyone. So the whole first hour

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Speaker 1: really good discussion there. That's why I would encourage you.

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Speaker 1: I know people have different parts of their day. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you can listen you're on your way to lunch, depending

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Speaker 1: on what part of the country you are, or you

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Speaker 1: get a break or whatever it might be. I know

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Speaker 1: you don't all have the opportunity to listen to all

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Speaker 1: three hours every day. That's why it's good to be

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Speaker 1: able to go back to the podcast. But we had

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Speaker 1: a serious discussion in the first hour, and I thought

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Speaker 1: you know what, Let's start off the second hour with

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Speaker 1: just a nice, long, healthy laugh at our Vice President

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, who continues to put together strings of words

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Speaker 1: the likes of which we haven't seen bucks since Shakespeare.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it's possible for her to talk

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Speaker 1: so much and say so little, but here is Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris over the weekend, bringing some sanity to an insane world.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all of that is a joke, but just

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Speaker 1: listen to Kamala. Let's all we know that we really

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Speaker 1: are quite behind in terms of maximizing our collective understanding

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Speaker 1: about how we will engage on the technology of today

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Speaker 1: the technology over the next decades. So to maintain our

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Speaker 1: position as the United States of America on this issue,

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Speaker 1: it is critical that we work together to understand where

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Speaker 1: we are, to recognize and have the courage to speak

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Speaker 1: truth about what is obsolete, and then to partner to

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Speaker 1: ensure that we are speaking the same language with the

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Speaker 1: same motivation inspired by the opportunity of it all. But

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Speaker 1: then doing the work of updating how we've been talking

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Speaker 1: and thinking about our exploration in space. Are we speaking

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Speaker 1: the same language as Kamala because I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what she thinks she's talking about. But I am certain

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Speaker 1: of this. We could, we could get people. I think

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Speaker 1: the cosa on this one, Clay Hell is the endless

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Speaker 1: HR lecture, where Kamala Harris is the one giving you

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Speaker 1: this speech. Just go droning on and on, buzzword after buzzword.

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Speaker 1: It's all corporate jargon. It's all words connected without thoughts

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Speaker 1: funniest thing they had done in a long time. And

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Speaker 1: yet here we are. She keeps giving these speeches and

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Speaker 1: saying this just utterly nonsensical stuff. It's gobbly goook. I

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Speaker 1: can't figure out which is the better analogy? Is Kamala

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Speaker 1: She's the worst boss than any of us have ever had,

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Speaker 1: She is so bereft of the ability to do her job.

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Speaker 1: I can't decide which one of those is more accurate.

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Speaker 1: You you were one of the few people that I

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Speaker 1: You know, at one point I was doing a five

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're tweeting at like one o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. You're like a machine.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had the thing where you've been on

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Speaker 1: and the words just aren't really sick. Yeah, I've been

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Speaker 1: there a couple of times. That's when Comlas starts speaking.

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Speaker 1: It's um the five am. You know, I did five

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Speaker 1: The problem is Kamala is always that way. And if

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Speaker 1: one's more perfect. We have fun with this, obviously because

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Speaker 1: much bigger conversation about what the dynamics will be here

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Speaker 1: with the Biden administration. A big point of conversation this is,

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Speaker 1: up talking politics all weekend. I didn't mean too, but

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. Big point of conversation for everybody is

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Speaker 1: who believes that Biden is and everyone's calling at the

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Speaker 1: weekend at Bernie's situation. By the way, they're gonna push

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Speaker 1: Biden into a second term. The problem they have is

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Speaker 1: I believe they are gonna just weekend at Bernie's. I

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Speaker 1: I think the funniest thing is they made a second

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Speaker 1: movie that's basically the first Movie's not even really watchable, folks,

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Speaker 1: I'll cut to the chase on that one. The second one,

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I think they would wheel Biden

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Speaker 1: Democrats go around her, Let's be honest, how do they

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Speaker 1: sure you saw Buck during your vacation. The other thing

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Speaker 1: Iowa caucuses, Elizabeth Warren said, everyone comes up to me

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Speaker 1: I would submit to you that no one has ever

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Speaker 1: that she thinks that she can get away. But look,

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Speaker 1: only was a fake Native American for decades of her

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Speaker 1: adult life, Clay, she got jobs based on it too.

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Speaker 1: She didn't just she was like claiming to be a minority.

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Speaker 1: She look, she she wrote the racial entitlement state all

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Speaker 1: But beyond that, she not only put a recipe in

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Speaker 1: Pow Wow Chow. Yes, she stole the recipe from a

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Speaker 1: Wow Chow recipe. Clay, think about this, my friend. How

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Speaker 1: Wow Chow. I mean, there's like, we can't even call

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Speaker 1: a team of Cleveland Indians. Now, the Atlanta Raves and

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, was like, oh, we got this

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Speaker 1: book's gonna be best. I mean, the first time Elizaeth

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Speaker 1: Warren gets accused of this, she goes on the war path,

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Speaker 1: and it took months before we were gonna be able

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Speaker 1: her story. All right, so let me hit you with

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Speaker 1: this too. As we get ready to go to break,

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Speaker 1: our friends in the COVID pharmaceutical industry are not having

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Speaker 1: a good couple of days. So I just I just wonder.

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Speaker 1: Albert Burla Buck is the CEO of Fiser. In April

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Speaker 1: took with him. Same for Bush, same for Clinton. So

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Speaker 1: again this two tier system of justice. Now everybody's interested

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Speaker 1: in twelve boxes of documents, but not how every other

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Speaker 1: president before President Trump was treated. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: was in them, but I can tell you what happened before,

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Speaker 1: which is what we talked about at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show. And it's key to note that the GSA,

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Speaker 1: the Government Service Administration, they're the ones who packed up

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Speaker 1: and moved these documents. It's not like President Trump put

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Speaker 1: him in his briefcase and not support Air Force one

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Speaker 1: on January twentieth and said, Okay, I'll see you guys later,

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Speaker 1: which is critical if you're considering a case for improper

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Speaker 1: use of classified information. As we know from our friend

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Speaker 1: James call me during the Hillary Clinton investigation. Who set

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Speaker 1: the standard when Hillary Clinton sent and received classified emails personally,

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Speaker 1: she didn't have the intent to violate the law. So

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Speaker 1: if that's the standards and President Trump is, it's far

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Speaker 1: away from it as you can possibly be. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: Cash Betel, former d D Chief of Staff under Trump

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Speaker 1: and a deputy assistant to that White House he's also

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Speaker 1: a Trump Media Board member. Cash. Now, I'm asking you

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Speaker 1: to do a little bit beyond the explanation and expertise,

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Speaker 1: asking into the what do you see coming here or

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Speaker 1: what's between the lines on this one, because, as I

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Speaker 1: understand it, in those documents that have now been seized

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Speaker 1: by the FBI and FBI that we should not trust,

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Speaker 1: there is a whole bunch of executive privilege covered documents

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Speaker 1: that the deep state now has access to, perhaps even

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Speaker 1: some privileged as legal communications between the President and his

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Speaker 1: legal counsel, documents they have access to. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that this was more a phishing expedition even than anything else?

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Speaker 1: How do you see that? Yeah, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: combination of both. And look, as a former national security

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Speaker 1: prosecutor who works in this National Security division, and I

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Speaker 1: remind people there's a difference between a criminal prosecution and

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Speaker 1: a counterintelligence prosecution, which is supposedly what this is. It's

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Speaker 1: the latter that it's run out of the National Security

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Speaker 1: Division of the DOJ. And I think what the world

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Speaker 1: has seen is the shocking political overreach and what this

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Speaker 1: Attorney General and this director of the FBI didn't think

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Speaker 1: would happen is the boomerang would come back so quickly

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Speaker 1: to hit them in the face. And so now we

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Speaker 1: see the problems with this sort of government overreach. And

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Speaker 1: you highlighted the biggest problem that no one's talking about

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Speaker 1: presidential privilege and executive privilege, an attorney client privilege. The

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Speaker 1: DOJ is now invading those lawfully usually off the limits

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Speaker 1: documents because the target is Donald Trump. That is the

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Speaker 1: ultimate two tier system of justice, and that is a

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Speaker 1: total violation of the law. Cash you worked in the

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Speaker 1: Trump White House, You know the guy. Do you think

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Speaker 1: this raid has made him more or less likely to

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Speaker 1: want to run for president again? Yeah? I mean I

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Speaker 1: think all these things make it more and more likely.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you guys also know him real well.

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Speaker 1: You know his thing is not necessarily just correcting his

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Speaker 1: own name in the public. His thing is this is

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Speaker 1: wrong for America. To twenty twenty two, America, we have

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Speaker 1: a president's house being rated for the first time in

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Speaker 1: history on quote unquote a national security basis over documents

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Speaker 1: that were in a basement in boxes, under lock and key,

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Speaker 1: after the Department of Justice went there with Trump's cooperation

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Speaker 1: months before. None of this adds up, And I think

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Speaker 1: it's just going to make him want to run more

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Speaker 1: because he wants to make sure it doesn't happen to

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Speaker 1: anybody else. One more for your cash. You're a federal

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Speaker 1: prosecutor and specifically working on a lot of national security issues.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to indict President Trump? I don't believe. So.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe the facts. You know, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the search warrant that's not public. They said they

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Speaker 1: have to sort of lay out which crimes they are

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Speaker 1: alleging might be violated. One of the National Defense information

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Speaker 1: for batsified information. The other's the destruction of government property

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Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to have, and the other one

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Speaker 1: is the concealment of it. Well, as far as we

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Speaker 1: can tell from the public reporting, he hasn't destroyed anything.

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Speaker 1: And also he hasn't it's not like he concealed anything.

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Speaker 1: The GSA packed the boxes, moved him up the President's

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Speaker 1: home like they did for Obama and Clinton and Bush

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Speaker 1: and President Trump invited the DJ in and said, whatever

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like someone who's concealing or hiding or destructing anything.

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Speaker 1: If they do go out and indicte him, I literally

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Speaker 1: if we're not already there, it will be the end

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Speaker 1: breaking news. If you art on truth social right now,

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Speaker 1: you should be on truth social because President Trump is

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Speaker 1: tweeting regularly, and I say tweeting truthing regularly from the site,

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Speaker 1: this broke. President Trump said, Wow, in the raid by

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Speaker 1: the FBI of Mara Lago, they stole my three passports,

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Speaker 1: one expired, along with everything else. This is an assault

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Speaker 1: on a political opponent at a level never seen before

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Speaker 1: in our country, third world. That was just twenty seven

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Speaker 1: minutes ago. As I speak to you right now, Clay Season,

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Speaker 1: someone's passport, it's usually an indicator. It's well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: this is a huge deal. I mean it's a strong

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Speaker 1: indication that, first of all, you see someone someone's passport

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Speaker 1: when you think they're going to flee the country. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is Trump himself putting that out. If that is true,

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Speaker 1: then it is maybe the strongest evidence yet that he

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Speaker 1: is going to be indicted. Buck, right, I mean again,

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Speaker 1: President Trump putting on truth social that the government has

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Speaker 1: seized his passports. I mean that is first of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Trump has traveled, you know, outside of

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Speaker 1: the country very much in the year and a half

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Speaker 1: that he has not been president. But usually your passport

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Speaker 1: is seized after you're charged to try to keep you

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Speaker 1: from being able to leave the country. I don't know, Buck,

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Speaker 1: that I have heard of a passport being seized before

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Speaker 1: someone is charged. Maybe one of you out there is

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Speaker 1: an expert. This is where we love to be able

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Speaker 1: third hour of the program. If you do criminal law,

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Speaker 1: or if you have been involved in high level criminal defense,

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Speaker 1: have you ever heard of a passport being seized before

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Speaker 1: someone is charged with a crime. Now, it's also possible

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Speaker 1: to be fair, maybe his passport was in some way connected.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to think of I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's keeping his passport in boxes under lock and

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Speaker 1: key in the basement. That must have been from his office, right,

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Speaker 1: No one keeps their passport in dusty because you need it.

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Speaker 1: Even though I'm just trying to I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: think of how the passport could have been seized and

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Speaker 1: not been intentionally seized, because Buck, I've just never heard

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Speaker 1: of it happening, and I've done criminal law. So again,

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Speaker 1: for most people, the only time they would take your

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Speaker 1: passport is if they think you're going to flee that,

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Speaker 1: can they ask you to surrender your passport on it

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Speaker 1: as a condition of ill is usually what you hear.

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Speaker 1: But that's my point is usually that happens after you've

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Speaker 1: been charged with a crime. I can't remember a passport

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Speaker 1: being seized prior to someone. And now maybe they could argue, again,

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Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, but maybe they are arguing, hey, we

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Speaker 1: want to see where the passport has been stamped as

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Speaker 1: evidence of some sort of trip. Again, I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to meet through. I'm just gonna go to the record. Now,

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Speaker 1: if they if they suddenly find a secret trip to

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Speaker 1: Moscow where Trump has head written meeting with Poodie pood

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Speaker 1: having a conversation, No, no, no, because Trump has already

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Speaker 1: said he's like, I don't even know what they're putting

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Speaker 1: in there. And for anyone who says, how could he

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Speaker 1: raise such a conspiracy? My friends, we all know this

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Speaker 1: and we need to remember this. They falsified information for FISA,

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Speaker 1: They falsified information for Trump Russia. This is a matter

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Speaker 1: of public record, of record, So why why should we

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Speaker 1: not believe that they're capable of that? Now, of course

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Speaker 1: we should believe they're capable of that. Now. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's why so many people don't trust

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Speaker 1: the FBI. But this is I mean, to me, this

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Speaker 1: is a blockbuster, blockbuster statement. And again I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to work through it live on radio, like many of

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Speaker 1: you are trying to process it as well. What sort

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Speaker 1: of evidence could the passport have if it's being taken

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Speaker 1: for an evidentiary basis as opposed to as a restrictive

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Speaker 1: travel basis? But I just can't remember, Buck, can you?

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Speaker 1: Can you ever remember a time when, again we'll take

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Speaker 1: calls on this in the third hour, where previous, prior

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Speaker 1: to any criminal charges being brought, that a passport was seized.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that there have been situations where they've been

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Speaker 1: they've been ongoing investigations and they haven't charged yet, but

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Speaker 1: they've said, hey, we want your passport if you voluntarily

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Speaker 1: could get But this is just pretty pretty pretty rare,

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Speaker 1: and I can't even conceptualize in my head this occurring

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Speaker 1: without there being criminal charges brought. I mean, it's funny

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Speaker 1: because we just had cash on who was a federal prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: He says he doesn't think it's going to be charges brought.

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Speaker 1: I've spoken to former attorneys general who say there will

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Speaker 1: be charges brought. I mean, clearly this could go either way.

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Speaker 1: If they back down, though from the charges, it's really

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Speaker 1: going to be viewed as an admission that this is

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Speaker 1: effectively a political hit. So can they really get away

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Speaker 1: with that before the midterms, Clay, the good news is

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Speaker 1: we have another hour to discuss. Yeah, we have an

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Speaker 1: hour to discussing what I would just say here, and

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Speaker 1: you know, again, working through it is and Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: on the front lines