Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why? Oh? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, culture's
Speaker 1: calling and it's a moment for the pod. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a moment for the pod. Matt I think, um, well,
Speaker 1: we've been sitting on this news for a while. I
Speaker 1: would say, we've been sitting on it so much. Our
Speaker 1: butts are, our little tushies are they're not? Well, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just like get down to like business
Speaker 1: brass tacks with this business first. That's actually real culture
Speaker 1: number sixties six. Business first. So the whole move to
Speaker 1: my heart was sort of package to us, and we
Speaker 1: were lured even the order, Lord, would you have the
Speaker 1: unlot to the you, Matt, I would say, lured, Lord,
Speaker 1: We were lured. And actually that's the way Lord the
Speaker 1: singer pronounces her name now breaking as I'm getting that
Speaker 1: in my ear. She wants to be known as Ludlord.
Speaker 1: She's an artist's thing. Oh and it's so funny how
Speaker 1: home louds in just that sort of dip thong valel
Speaker 1: sound kind of relates to what our guests is promoting
Speaker 1: right now anyway, right exactly, it really does, And and
Speaker 1: that's part of the cultural crossover. Yes, And when I
Speaker 1: say that, I take both my arms and I sort
Speaker 1: of fold them over each other to sort of physicalize
Speaker 1: them out. And this was the business that needed to
Speaker 1: come first, by the way, for everyone, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: So we're just saying that the whole the move to
Speaker 1: my Heart was predicated on this lure that um our guests.
Speaker 1: Let's just say there was a proverbial fishing hook because
Speaker 1: the oh, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not familiar with fishing.
Speaker 1: Um the line was cast. The line was cast, and
Speaker 1: we being the fish, and we to varying degrees, we
Speaker 1: both are fish because we are water signs astrologically, that's
Speaker 1: right now, we bait the hook hook. Our guest was
Speaker 1: starting a new podcast network with I Heart Radio. It's
Speaker 1: called Big Money. Players were so happy, excited, honored to
Speaker 1: be a part of the network work. Oh, we're thrilled.
Speaker 1: And I have to say this was sort of this
Speaker 1: was because you know that on this podcast we talked
Speaker 1: about the culture that made us say culture was for us.
Speaker 1: And it's actually interesting to have a guest that was
Speaker 1: a part of the culture that I think for both
Speaker 1: of us made us say culture was for us. Let's
Speaker 1: just start off by saying you and I were both
Speaker 1: high school intercommon announcers. My sign off lines, my sign
Speaker 1: off lines treated off between have a good day in
Speaker 1: a pleasant tomorrow, which is a weekend update, which is
Speaker 1: ripped from Tina Fey, and it's theF well Chevy Chase
Speaker 1: and it's def what you've done well. They they send
Speaker 1: Jane Curtin, they said it in the in the first
Speaker 1: did they? That wasn't it? Okay? Now I'm the one
Speaker 1: being a brought it back. But then my my other
Speaker 1: sign off line, which was my sisters sign off line
Speaker 1: when she did it was you stay classy Smoky Hill
Speaker 1: and that's ripped. And that's ripped, and that's ripped from
Speaker 1: our guests. Now, now what's your How is it formative
Speaker 1: for you? You go go, well, let's just say that.
Speaker 1: Um well, I'd actually rather tell this to the guests. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so I I'd rather just first let me say
Speaker 1: so before this, but and I recorded a video trailer
Speaker 1: for this podcast, thought Cultures, and I decided for that
Speaker 1: video trailer to wear quote unquote a fun shirt. And
Speaker 1: then I I was sort of volleying back and forth
Speaker 1: with Bowen like, do I change out of my fun
Speaker 1: shirt for the guests? And I realized I was nervous
Speaker 1: and anticipated in the guest to that point where I
Speaker 1: didn't know what shirt to wear. It like it was
Speaker 1: a damn date or something. Because I want to represent
Speaker 1: myself well, conservative but attractive, appealing, jumps off the screen,
Speaker 1: but not obnoxious. These are the things we navigate. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, And you had to tone yourself. You to
Speaker 1: dial yourself back and code switching that I'm doing, you know.
Speaker 1: But the thing about our guest is he I mean,
Speaker 1: and and now you know, now it's sort of you've
Speaker 1: sort of proved this out for yourself once you see him,
Speaker 1: once you talk to him. It's a way. It all
Speaker 1: amounts a way. He's not this. You know, a list,
Speaker 1: he's not fast and a list now, yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: fast and any list. You know, he's not down at
Speaker 1: what's the cult the chateau, you know, sort of like
Speaker 1: with his eyes down, like don't look at him like
Speaker 1: he's very sort of you know, he's an approachable guy.
Speaker 1: And I feel that he's wearing the appropriate hat for
Speaker 1: the moment. Yes, we'll talk about that. Let's just quickly
Speaker 1: go through the credits. What are his credits? Where we
Speaker 1: we know him from? Well, he was a cast member
Speaker 1: on sn L for seven seasons. He Um co founded
Speaker 1: beloved comedy outlet Funny or Die, has produced so many
Speaker 1: wonderful works. He is founding Big Money Players Network, which
Speaker 1: we're so happy to be a part of. And he's
Speaker 1: promoting his new film Your a Vision Song Contest the
Speaker 1: story of Fire Saga, which we have seen, which we
Speaker 1: have seen. We'd love it. It's so funny, is a
Speaker 1: goof aloof fest. We love it. And it's based on
Speaker 1: of course your Vision, which is amongst the gayer things
Speaker 1: to happen in history. So we're very excited that there
Speaker 1: is a film depicting the moment that is journal vision. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so we're so excited to have the moment that
Speaker 1: is our guest, welcome to your ears well fair, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Well tell everyone what you're wearing. What the hat you're wearing?
Speaker 1: It that I am wearing a what appears to be
Speaker 1: a Maga hat, the same font, uh, same red hat
Speaker 1: with the white letters, but it says make America gay again,
Speaker 1: and thank you. We need to make America gay again
Speaker 1: again again. We need I I love that you know,
Speaker 1: walking down the street could be a trumper and he
Speaker 1: could look into your eyes and think there's one in me,
Speaker 1: and then upon closer inspection, no, sir, here's the best thing.
Speaker 1: I have worn this hat a couple of times, and
Speaker 1: I would get so many looks from people who were like, wow,
Speaker 1: he's actually wearing that hat, and then it would be
Speaker 1: a double take once they saw what it actually said
Speaker 1: so right, and then it just I got too many
Speaker 1: of the the first round of looks, which were, uh,
Speaker 1: please take that hat off, and so I stopped wearing it.
Speaker 1: So this is fun to get to put it back
Speaker 1: on again. Yeah, it's it's sort of um, it's a
Speaker 1: trick of the eye because upon first glance, I mean
Speaker 1: I actually saw Bowen before he had to go all
Speaker 1: the way up close to his computer to say that
Speaker 1: he can't possibly be wearing and make America great again hat.
Speaker 1: And then I saw the look of sheer delight in
Speaker 1: his eyes once he realized the the the the humor.
Speaker 1: I was incredulous at first, and I saw what the
Speaker 1: wording was and then I and then I sighed, you
Speaker 1: were sort of internally this Will Ferrell where, oh do
Speaker 1: I know him? I don't think I do. And wait, okay,
Speaker 1: I do. I do know him? Yea, I know this guy.
Speaker 1: So I have to tell you, um, the one of
Speaker 1: this is very exciting to have you on because not
Speaker 1: not only just because you are you Will Ferrell and
Speaker 1: icon to us, a hero to us comedically, but also
Speaker 1: you kind of did enter my personal life in a
Speaker 1: time I really needed help because it was ninth grade.
Speaker 1: I think I was in I needed help bad. So
Speaker 1: it was like ninth grade. I was like a gay teen, young,
Speaker 1: gay closeted teen. And then I remember I wasn't fitting
Speaker 1: in with like everyone in school and Anchorman came out,
Speaker 1: and I remember going into school and everyone was quoting Anchorman.
Speaker 1: It kind of became one of those movies wherever everyone
Speaker 1: universally was loving it, and it actually did make me
Speaker 1: fit in and make friends. The fact that I had
Speaker 1: like a knowledge of that movie, Oh, that you could
Speaker 1: kind of throw down some Anchorman specific quotes. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was kind of just like because that was that was
Speaker 1: very much like a thing. I think it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we can all quote the same movies, we all have
Speaker 1: the same cultural language. But that that entered my life
Speaker 1: at a time when I was like, yeah, I needed that.
Speaker 1: That's nice to hear, because that's that's not exactly what
Speaker 1: was happening in the theater's initial because we were getting
Speaker 1: stories from friends and family who were who I literally
Speaker 1: had one of my best friends in college go to
Speaker 1: see it opening weekend with his wife and another couple,
Speaker 1: and the other couple just halfway through just were like,
Speaker 1: We're out of here. We don't get this movie. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Yeah, just um. I remember Adam telling a
Speaker 1: story of a friend of his calling calling him up,
Speaker 1: saying he had gone to the to the theater ahead
Speaker 1: of time. He was he was watching something else, He's not,
Speaker 1: I'll watch the last ten minutes of Anchor Man. He
Speaker 1: poked his head into uh and he watched. He literally
Speaker 1: as during the end credits, he heard like a verbal
Speaker 1: altercation between people in the theater. One person was like, well, Farrell,
Speaker 1: I want my money back, and someone else was like,
Speaker 1: shut up. That move was funny, and so it really was.
Speaker 1: You know, when it first kind of came out, people
Speaker 1: were like either absolutely loved it or or or just
Speaker 1: thought I do not know what to make of this,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a good place to be. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a cop out to say this, but I
Speaker 1: feel like that's how you know you've done something correctly.
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that, though, because I actually went.
Speaker 1: I remember, okay, this is the story of how I
Speaker 1: saw Anchor Man. My family and my cousins were all
Speaker 1: going to Coney Not Coney Island, We're going to a
Speaker 1: dorney park. So we were we lived in Long Island,
Speaker 1: and we were all driving up to go to Dorney Park,
Speaker 1: and we were so excited. I'm like, always, thank god,
Speaker 1: you were not going to Coney No, no, we park.
Speaker 1: It was a dorney park trip and those are those
Speaker 1: are singular. So we were on our way to Dorney
Speaker 1: Park and it was I couldn't have been more excited
Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm I still am to this
Speaker 1: day like a theme park person, and when this becomes
Speaker 1: a therapy session in five minutes, will unpack it. Um.
Speaker 1: But I was so excited, and so we're all my
Speaker 1: cousins to do roller coasters and like do the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It downpoured the most in Pennsylvania history. It rained them.
Speaker 1: I remember, like the the news was like, well, not
Speaker 1: only is everything closed today, but it's raining more than
Speaker 1: it ever has ever like kids days of ruined, especially
Speaker 1: if you're going to Dorney Park and san um But anyway,
Speaker 1: so we were devastated. It wasn't even like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: still go to the theme park. The lines will be
Speaker 1: short now. So me and all my family, including my
Speaker 1: little cousins, went to the movie theater and there was
Speaker 1: Anchorman playing, and so he thought, what the heck we're
Speaker 1: watching it? And me and my cousin, who were like
Speaker 1: like thirteen fourteen, were dying laughing htorical because we we
Speaker 1: didn't know really what it was gonna be. And then
Speaker 1: it turned out to be truly so fucking funny. But
Speaker 1: my mother did have to take my little cousin and
Speaker 1: my sister out. They did leave because my mother was like,
Speaker 1: I can't be talking whales vagina to my young daughter,
Speaker 1: like what is this? And just like it was so
Speaker 1: it was so jarring, And I think that's part of
Speaker 1: why I loved Yeah, because I did not know what
Speaker 1: it was going to be, which maybe speaks to what
Speaker 1: you're saying, it's funny because we are having come from
Speaker 1: SNL where you're obviously given uh some leeway as to
Speaker 1: what you can kind of you know, present to the table.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: that that shows governed by a lot of rules. And
Speaker 1: I think it was our expression of like, we're just
Speaker 1: why does it have to follow this way at this time?
Speaker 1: We just we're like, let's break every comedy rule we
Speaker 1: can think of and and just have this be this reckless,
Speaker 1: kind of joyous experience and kind of come back to
Speaker 1: the ensemble comedy that you know, I kind of grew
Speaker 1: up loving and and we just had as much fun
Speaker 1: making that movie as we could, partly because I think
Speaker 1: there was a real feeling of like they may just
Speaker 1: shut us down. This may be the last time we
Speaker 1: get to do this, so let's uh, let's just go
Speaker 1: out with a bang. You you thought that that early
Speaker 1: on that and you're in your post SNL career that
Speaker 1: like this the end, well, just because you know, you
Speaker 1: have to remember, like I think we got we had
Speaker 1: written the script and it wasn't We just went out
Speaker 1: with it, and I think we got like ten twelve
Speaker 1: rejection like that, that movie just kept getting Uh, no
Speaker 1: one really wanted to buy a a comedy about a
Speaker 1: newsroom comedy. Uh, they just couldn't add up, you know,
Speaker 1: they I don't think they saw how absurd it was
Speaker 1: going to be, and you know what, you know that
Speaker 1: cast was gonna kind of bring to it and things
Speaker 1: like that. So we just when we finally got to
Speaker 1: make it, we thought, oh, this is like we're playing
Speaker 1: with the house's money here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about it's like you have to imagine
Speaker 1: it wouldn't like pitch super well, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like off the page, it doesn't feel like in the
Speaker 1: studio would be like, yes, that is something that I
Speaker 1: think it's we need that like um comedy about seventies
Speaker 1: Anchorman like sort of navigating sexism right and throwing you know,
Speaker 1: purpose littering, you know, things like that. But it really is,
Speaker 1: like that's one of the reasons I love it so much,
Speaker 1: is it really is about sort of like toxic masculinity
Speaker 1: and like like it is like a it's a satire
Speaker 1: of that taken all the way down the road. But
Speaker 1: then like in recent years since that movie has come out,
Speaker 1: you realize, like this, while it is a sort of
Speaker 1: extreme caricature of that situation, it's actually really not dissimilar
Speaker 1: to the way that women would be treated spoken to.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just really it holds up any
Speaker 1: any sort of news person I've run into, as has said, Oh,
Speaker 1: we've I know people exactly like Ron Burgundy, which is
Speaker 1: funny and scary all at the same time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was while it was a silly move.
Speaker 1: I remember one of the worst reviews we got was
Speaker 1: actually from the San Diego local paper and they they
Speaker 1: were like, we're very disappoint waited in this movie. It
Speaker 1: really really had an opportunity to say something and it
Speaker 1: just it just missed the mark. And uh. But you know, conversely,
Speaker 1: like the Guardian, a lot of the British papers, they
Speaker 1: totally got what we're doing and they were like, this
Speaker 1: is this is great satire. I'm wondering what I mean,
Speaker 1: you and Adam writing it after us and now having
Speaker 1: that mindset of let's break every rule because we have
Speaker 1: been so used to like a pretty stringent environment, Like
Speaker 1: was that did you guys? Were you guys aware of
Speaker 1: that as you were both finishing up your ten years there,
Speaker 1: Because I feel like once you're I don't know, not
Speaker 1: to make it sound like this, watch it, watch it.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying like working there, when you work, when
Speaker 1: you work there you sort of like sort of like
Speaker 1: abide by all the rules and you have to. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, did you guys like intentionally bring that
Speaker 1: with you once you guys left I that mindset? That's
Speaker 1: a really good question. I think it was probably probably
Speaker 1: I think it was still probably more subconscious, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there was there was a feeling of of being sick
Speaker 1: of the rules and quotes of common and why can't
Speaker 1: we punt a dog off a bridge and have it
Speaker 1: come back to life and save us from grizzly bears? Why?
Speaker 1: Because if if I pitched that, uh, someone's gonna someone's
Speaker 1: gonna laugh politely and then leave the room and go
Speaker 1: that that's the worst I ever heard. So I think
Speaker 1: it was probably an extension of both of them, you know,
Speaker 1: both of of just executing that idea and wanting to
Speaker 1: do something crazy and then also just uh yeah, wanting
Speaker 1: wanting to kind of get away from something that has
Speaker 1: such a form that it sticks to, right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think that's something that Bowen and I respond to, like
Speaker 1: and that when we whenever we're together and like we're
Speaker 1: really laughing at something, we laugh at something because it
Speaker 1: is so stupid, bid like and that's that's just our
Speaker 1: funer together. And I think that's what's something I recognized
Speaker 1: in it, like, um, from a very early age. Like
Speaker 1: even like if you watch like the sort of outtakes,
Speaker 1: I prefer to call them bloopers. I think bloopers is
Speaker 1: the funniest word in the industry. I want to call
Speaker 1: them bloopers, and actually, really culture number one hundred, they're
Speaker 1: not outtakes, their bloopers, they're not They're bloopers, and they
Speaker 1: can be shortened to bloops. Shortened bloops. Yeah, that's yes,
Speaker 1: we'll add an addendum onto the rule. But we have
Speaker 1: people that that do that. Um. So, like there was
Speaker 1: a scene where like you're in the car with Christina Applegate, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, is our queen, and she's so incredible
Speaker 1: and oh my god, she's so amazing in that movie.
Speaker 1: But there's a scene where you are doing the Whales
Speaker 1: Regina san Diego thing to her in the car and
Speaker 1: you start breaking down laughing and you say, it's just
Speaker 1: so stupid. Yeah, this is so stupid. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: that is I think something at gets a little lost nowadays,
Speaker 1: which I think is sort of uh having a resurgence
Speaker 1: or I hope it is because I almost feel like
Speaker 1: or I'm hopeful that that we can return to sort
Speaker 1: of like really going for the joke, big characters, Like
Speaker 1: comedy is supposed to be funny, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like right right, yeah, that that was just, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the realization of of the moment that these stupid lines
Speaker 1: that we'd written in a room in a in a
Speaker 1: vacuum we now had there. We were parked on a
Speaker 1: bluff in the middle of the night with a crew
Speaker 1: of fifty people having to film this moment and you're
Speaker 1: getting paid for it, and it's, uh, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh, this is you know, if I don't
Speaker 1: ever get to do another thing again, I'll be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know yeah, speaking of um, speaking of stupidity,
Speaker 1: I would say or just like, um, a big budget comedy,
Speaker 1: which I feel like is as a concept is like
Speaker 1: waning from Hollywood. Right now. Um, let's talk about your
Speaker 1: revision song contest the Story of Fire Saga. Do you
Speaker 1: like that concise title? By the way, I love the title.
Speaker 1: I love that, but that it's it's for that same reason.
Speaker 1: It's like that's why we love Ricky Bobby. That's so
Speaker 1: funny though, like a title should be titles should be
Speaker 1: like fucking Fiona Apple album titles, like they go on
Speaker 1: and on and on. Like the fact that it's such
Speaker 1: an epic title I think only helps. That matters. So
Speaker 1: I love it. It communicates something to the audience. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm in for. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: the entire paragraph. It's so fun. Okay, So I so,
Speaker 1: but I was talking about about this before we started
Speaker 1: recording over text. I was like, oh yeah, like I
Speaker 1: can't remember. Maybe it's just because I have a million
Speaker 1: blind spots with this, but I'm like, when was the
Speaker 1: last like big budget comedy that like I've seen with
Speaker 1: like international stars and like it's about and like it
Speaker 1: just very It felt like a nice like comedy Frozen
Speaker 1: and Amber kind of thing from like early to mid
Speaker 1: odds where it's like, oh, yes, like I enjoyed this
Speaker 1: kind of movie very very much. Um So was that
Speaker 1: like was that kind of what you and because you
Speaker 1: and Andrew were going to Andrew Steel, We're going to
Speaker 1: your vision to like like figure out a story around
Speaker 1: this or like like like what was the sea crystal
Speaker 1: behind him? Yeah? I mean the crazy The crazy journey
Speaker 1: of this is that so I uh, my wife Vivica
Speaker 1: is Swedish. We've been going to Sweden uh for twenty
Speaker 1: years every summer. Um. In fact, this summer will be
Speaker 1: the first summer we haven't gotten to go. And that
Speaker 1: first trip we went, we were with her cousin and
Speaker 1: we were out. They had like a little cabin in
Speaker 1: the country that we were out picking mushrooms, you know,
Speaker 1: with rubber boots on, as you would do in Sweden.
Speaker 1: It's right. And this is a good film. By the way,
Speaker 1: have you written this down that this is the is
Speaker 1: a really good this is a good film. There's a
Speaker 1: feature in that. Um. So she just uh we had
Speaker 1: dinner and she's like, oh, shall we sit down and
Speaker 1: watch Eurovision And we're like, um, yes, of course, and
Speaker 1: we It happened to be the night of the finale
Speaker 1: because there's there's two semi final nights for for your listeners,
Speaker 1: and then there's a final final night and we watched.
Speaker 1: We sat there for three hours and watched the It's
Speaker 1: a whole thing because the last twenty acts or so
Speaker 1: they do their performance, then they have some special guests
Speaker 1: and then they tabulated all the votes and each country
Speaker 1: does this whole series of voting and it builds this tension.
Speaker 1: But I was sitting there going, what is going on
Speaker 1: is in um? And it's even gotten over the years
Speaker 1: a little more um. You know, everyone pretty much things
Speaker 1: in English now, and the acts are are kind of
Speaker 1: you know, they're really trying to get played on the radio,
Speaker 1: and yet there's still some just amazing moments between the staging,
Speaker 1: the costumes. And so I was watching this, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, going oh, this this has to be
Speaker 1: a movie, and so that's going to make it and
Speaker 1: no one ever did. I kept waiting to like, you know, reado.
Speaker 1: Someone so finally made a comedy about your vision. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't until yeah, four or five years ago that
Speaker 1: I called up Andrew Steele, former SNL writer, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Andrew, you gotta check this thing I'll called
Speaker 1: your Vision. I've always wanted to make a movie. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not I'm not doing anything right now in
Speaker 1: this moment of time. Let's fly out there. And so
Speaker 1: we flew out to Copenhagen and that was the year
Speaker 1: that con Cheeta versed watching for Austria and so we
Speaker 1: we got to see it, you know, in its entirety
Speaker 1: there and I was with Andrew and our producer Jessica album,
Speaker 1: and I was like, do you guys see what I'm
Speaker 1: I'm talking about here? And so yeah, and then from
Speaker 1: that point on, that's when we sat down with the
Speaker 1: Eurovision people and said, would would you let us make
Speaker 1: a movie? Yeah? And what? But what was their response
Speaker 1: because you have to imagine, like there's been nothing about it,
Speaker 1: so this would be the first thing. It was, Um,
Speaker 1: I think it was very it was very European. It
Speaker 1: was well, we don't really need the publicity. We get
Speaker 1: like two million viewers every year. Uh and uh. And
Speaker 1: I said, you know, obviously be a comedy, but I
Speaker 1: think would we'd be making fun but it is also
Speaker 1: an homage and with love at the same time for
Speaker 1: the process. And they were like, yeah, I don't see
Speaker 1: why not and and that was kind of the agreement.
Speaker 1: And then they let us kind of yeah, it's interesting
Speaker 1: that you say that, like it's a comedy, but it's
Speaker 1: also it is also an homage because something about the
Speaker 1: movie that I didn't expect is it is actually a
Speaker 1: very sweet movie, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's way sweeter than we then we really set out
Speaker 1: to make it, and then we we really we started
Speaker 1: uh um really kind of digging in deeper and making
Speaker 1: it about a relationship between uh these two these two friends,
Speaker 1: uh and and you know what the music means to
Speaker 1: them and in terms of the competition and listening to
Speaker 1: each other and things like that. It is surprisingly sweet
Speaker 1: in a way that um in the final song that
Speaker 1: Rachel's character sings. Uh. There I was at every single
Speaker 1: test screening. I'm in the back of the theater crying,
Speaker 1: uh kind of with how sweet the song is. I feel,
Speaker 1: And it's actually a really good song. And then every
Speaker 1: time I I would watch that moment, I just would
Speaker 1: think about, Gosh, I can't believe we finally made this movie.
Speaker 1: And um, anyway, all of those things kind of kind
Speaker 1: or interwoven when I watched that moment, it's it's really
Speaker 1: love Like, Okay, we should say, um. Your co stars
Speaker 1: are Rachel McAdams, Dan Stevens, Pierce Brosn, and Demi Levado.
Speaker 1: Demi Levado has fun moment. We endorsed Demi Levado on
Speaker 1: this podcast. This is a podcast that loves endorses and
Speaker 1: as the kids say, stands Demi Levado and something explosive
Speaker 1: happens with her character. We love her. What's what's she like?
Speaker 1: She was fantastic. I mean that was you know. David Dopkin,
Speaker 1: our director, kind of has all these ties to the
Speaker 1: music world because he's still uh does a lot of
Speaker 1: music videos. And he was like, I think we can
Speaker 1: get Demi to to play this role. And she was
Speaker 1: so sweet and lovely and it was she was actually
Speaker 1: shooting during her birthday. We kind of had this really
Speaker 1: special moment where and and she had just come out
Speaker 1: of her last for or rehab. Stant Yes, I really
Speaker 1: wanted to work on this because I'm a fan, and
Speaker 1: I go, you're so sweet. We can't believe you're doing this.
Speaker 1: We just can't believe. And she said, but I have
Speaker 1: to tell you, like watching your movies really kind of
Speaker 1: helped me kind of go through what I had to
Speaker 1: go through. And it's weird when you get hit in
Speaker 1: the chest with something like that and it's uh and
Speaker 1: it's so personal to her and uh, it was one
Speaker 1: of the sweetest things ever. And I was like, and
Speaker 1: now you're gonna do this crazy character in this movie
Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't get to do things like this.
Speaker 1: So it was it was really kind of beautiful and
Speaker 1: she just was she was up for anything. And the
Speaker 1: thing that struck us too was, uh, you forget that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she is a she's an absolute pro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's well, she's one of those kids like she was
Speaker 1: like a Barney girl, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: she's been doing it since the jump. She hits the stage,
Speaker 1: she knows exactly where the camera is, she's turning perfectly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a pop star. Oh my gosh, Stone Cole pro Yeah,
Speaker 1: and would do like three takes and like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else you're gonna do. And she
Speaker 1: sounds unbelievable on the track that she sings like it's
Speaker 1: just great. It's really cool. Um. But you mentioned like
Speaker 1: just the behavior of a pop star on stage, and
Speaker 1: actually that was something that I really really picking up
Speaker 1: on during it. Like obviously Eurovision is a very European
Speaker 1: show and the prop stars are very European, um, and
Speaker 1: so there is like this element of like whimsy to everything,
Speaker 1: and it's something that I love. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: pop music taken all the way to that pop place,
Speaker 1: like it is they're truly playing characters on Maximal Music.
Speaker 1: So did you like sort of observe a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of performances. I would imagine that you've like
Speaker 1: probably seen years going back. But did you and Rachel,
Speaker 1: who also I would say, really embodied a pop star
Speaker 1: on stage during their performances, Um, did you what did
Speaker 1: you do for that? Yeah? We, I mean Andrew and
Speaker 1: I we we we we attended three of them in person,
Speaker 1: and just yeah, watching everything we forget because because we
Speaker 1: have American idol, we have the voice, we have these
Speaker 1: habitual kind of things that are happening all the time,
Speaker 1: and and the US is kind of the epicenter of
Speaker 1: pop music culture in so many ways. For this for
Speaker 1: your vision there, it's it's forty seven countries and some
Speaker 1: of the countries are so small and you know, might
Speaker 1: be thousand people if that, And this is this moment
Speaker 1: for them to get in front of fifty thousand people
Speaker 1: in a worldwide audience, and you can tell it means
Speaker 1: so much the moment, and they just don't have the
Speaker 1: same platforms that I think we all take for granted,
Speaker 1: whether it be the UK or over here. That's one
Speaker 1: of the things you know, obviously we observed the funny
Speaker 1: or interesting or kitchener how do we want to describe it?
Speaker 1: Costumes and you know, uh, when we were in Tel Aviv,
Speaker 1: I believe, which is where we shot a lot of
Speaker 1: the crowd stuff. You know, one of the acts is
Speaker 1: a guy. I couldn't figure out what the camera angle
Speaker 1: was this guy singing and it looked like he was
Speaker 1: kind of upside down and then he's being raised up
Speaker 1: and he's a full vampire coming out of a flaming
Speaker 1: grand piano. And uh, I was like, wow that they
Speaker 1: thought of this, built it, they can They talked about it,
Speaker 1: there was meeting and they pulled it off. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that that kind of European style and flare
Speaker 1: is just a whole another thing to comment on. It's
Speaker 1: truly crazy, like to the well I want it's a spoiler,
Speaker 1: but insane things happen on stage while you and Rachel
Speaker 1: are performing, and like it's almost like you the audience
Speaker 1: believe the insanity, like that could be part of the performance.
Speaker 1: Like I seem crazier things in your revision than like
Speaker 1: an actual disastrous thing happening as a plot point in
Speaker 1: this movie. Like that is like what goes down because
Speaker 1: it's it serves the comedy very well, especially in the
Speaker 1: physical ways, or especially in like the slap sticky ways.
Speaker 1: Like and I would say, well that this is I
Speaker 1: think your your gayest film, your queerest film, Matt, would
Speaker 1: you would you agree? I would have to agree, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And like there's there's, there's there's would you would put
Speaker 1: it above Blades of Glory? Blades of Glory is Blades
Speaker 1: of Glory is your most incestuous film. I feel like
Speaker 1: I love of Glory. I feel Blades of Glory is
Speaker 1: up there for me because it really again about something
Speaker 1: super specific, super fun characters, big jokes, and also like
Speaker 1: I fucking love Amy Poehler and Will Arnett. Yeah that
Speaker 1: is the strang and fair child. She's like blowing out
Speaker 1: the guns, like, well, I don't know, it's just so fun,
Speaker 1: so stupid. I wanted to I wanted to ask, like,
Speaker 1: so we as a podcast have our on record for
Speaker 1: saying that Rachel McAdams deserved an Oscar for mean Girls.
Speaker 1: So this is like a podcast that has for many
Speaker 1: years wanted to see her return to like a big
Speaker 1: comedy like this, and then it's so fun to see
Speaker 1: her return to big comedy like this, because she has
Speaker 1: become such a movie star and you know, that's kind
Speaker 1: of just what happened after Mean Girls, and she's sure
Speaker 1: she's done comedy, but to see her play a character
Speaker 1: is fun. What's your experience with her? And please spare
Speaker 1: no detail. We love Rachel, I mean Rachel. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: you kind of forget, just like you said, She's probably
Speaker 1: known more for the notebook and the serious actress and
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, but she is so committed and
Speaker 1: funny and specific and even to the point of singing
Speaker 1: with a specific Iceland accent. And because we are fire,
Speaker 1: saga is from Iceland. Yes, your readers, it's you're the readers, right,
Speaker 1: thank you, right um. But she I think she was
Speaker 1: a little bit like, oh, here we go. I haven't
Speaker 1: been on the ship in a while. But then she
Speaker 1: just she just dove right in and she's funny. She's
Speaker 1: funny and so lovable to look at that she kind
Speaker 1: of gives my character, Lars, you know, the the weight
Speaker 1: behind it, because she's willing to go on his journey
Speaker 1: with him, and and she brings such sincerity to how
Speaker 1: much she loves this guy with this dream that you know,
Speaker 1: he's tried twenty something years now to get in and
Speaker 1: and and so it it allows you to believe in
Speaker 1: my story and our story collectively. We had the best time.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's all hands on deck, she's got kid
Speaker 1: and a partner, and so I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: her that much. I was out partying in London. She
Speaker 1: could not answer the bell. No come on, she got
Speaker 1: come on, waitchil come on, We're going to party. Also,
Speaker 1: not for nothing, but I went. I went to Stockholm.
Speaker 1: This is a couple of years ago, but we did,
Speaker 1: like for the first Europe for the first time, we
Speaker 1: landed in Stockholm. We were going to Amsterdam, but we
Speaker 1: still had like a day and a half to spend
Speaker 1: in Stockholm and such such a fun city. And also
Speaker 1: we did go to the Pop Music Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: which I've talked about a little bit on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but it's essentially like an Abba Hall of Fame, but
Speaker 1: pop music Hall of Fame. But there's like, have you've
Speaker 1: definitely been, I've been to the Abba exactly the euro
Speaker 1: it's like a whole Eurovision section and you can watch
Speaker 1: all the performances, and that I think was my first
Speaker 1: experience with it. Like this is crazy, like finding out
Speaker 1: that Celine Dion was in it. Sure truly, Like it's
Speaker 1: like there's such such a deep well of pop music
Speaker 1: history that I think Americans don't really know about that
Speaker 1: is euro Vision, but it's it's an institution. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um um and which is which is why um
Speaker 1: it's interesting something that's so viewed there. We don't really
Speaker 1: we don't really know that much about it over here exactly.
Speaker 1: It's so weird until two weeks from now, and then oh,
Speaker 1: America will know whether whether they want to or not,
Speaker 1: whether they want to or not. I do love I
Speaker 1: do love the idea that you will Ferrell are the
Speaker 1: ambassador for your vision. It's too good. It's perfect. Also
Speaker 1: that I do want to I do want to say
Speaker 1: that I have a deep appreciation for the fact that
Speaker 1: the Dan Stevens character in this film is like a
Speaker 1: baritone pop singer, because that is like, that is something
Speaker 1: that is a very prevalent thing in euro Vision and
Speaker 1: around the world. Is like, yeah, you men who are
Speaker 1: singing like this, we don't really have that here. No,
Speaker 1: it's all tenors. Yeah right, so guy, super super high voices. No,
Speaker 1: he is he is all man and very sexualized and big, big,
Speaker 1: deep powerful baritone. Yeah he is, he is there. He
Speaker 1: is a masculine singing with his song Lion of Love,
Speaker 1: Lion of Love, which had amazing I don't know when
Speaker 1: you guys watched the movie if you noticed the video
Speaker 1: screen behind the performances has amazing graphics lions and and
Speaker 1: Paula's and animals from the from the African tundra jumping
Speaker 1: behind his performance. The animal Kingdom is very much pleasant,
Speaker 1: very much so. Um you guys try and wear like
Speaker 1: Glasgow and and Edinburgh and like Iceland. You guys were
Speaker 1: in Iceland. We actually were in Iceland for the last
Speaker 1: four days. But yeah, we were in London and Scotland
Speaker 1: and then uh ice Land for the last four days,
Speaker 1: which was kind of amazing. We were literally in this
Speaker 1: town of Housavic, where our characters are from. And I
Speaker 1: think we could have found a place that looked similar
Speaker 1: to a small town that would have been just twenty
Speaker 1: miles out of Raakovic. Yeah, but instead we're four hours
Speaker 1: away that and all the Icelandic actors I would talk
Speaker 1: to that be like what you're actually shooting in Housavic.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, isn't that great? Were like, why
Speaker 1: there's nothing there. There's two restaurants, one hotel, and uh
Speaker 1: so here we were. This big movie crew kind of
Speaker 1: took over this small, little little town which had an
Speaker 1: amazing Uh have you guys been to Iceland? It was
Speaker 1: my first time, never know, but I've always wanted to go.
Speaker 1: It's like sort of become like a very popular vacation
Speaker 1: destination in the past couple of years. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of install photos from there. These hot springs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this small town of maybe ten thousand people had this
Speaker 1: incredible hot spring complex of the top of the hill.
Speaker 1: Um so everyone would after shooting go up and have
Speaker 1: a beer in the hot spring. Unbelievable that sounds. I
Speaker 1: was literally I was wondering, like this Iceland, there is
Speaker 1: this movie magic, because you know, they could do amazing
Speaker 1: things in Hollywood. This movie magic. They can make you
Speaker 1: believe anywhere in the world. We were. We were limping
Speaker 1: to the finish line a little bit on the movie
Speaker 1: because I went into my trailer and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: someone just came in and she starts. There was no knock,
Speaker 1: It just burst into the trailer and uh, there's just
Speaker 1: she starts putting a piece of paper on on the
Speaker 1: bathroom door of my trailer. I'm like, oh, hello, She's
Speaker 1: like hello, just keeps working of like, uh, can I
Speaker 1: can I help you? And he's like, yes, you cannot
Speaker 1: use your bathroom and uh and it's starting. This is
Speaker 1: in October, so it's starting to get I don't think
Speaker 1: it's cold for them, but it was cold for me.
Speaker 1: Um And I'm like, oh, why like just for like
Speaker 1: the next hour or like no, for the whole time.
Speaker 1: I go can I ask why? She's like, well, we
Speaker 1: the pipes will freeze. We can't so oh okay, so
Speaker 1: but she said, but don't worry. There's a porta potty
Speaker 1: that's you guys can share over here. And so I
Speaker 1: didn't worry. I didn't understand. I didn't understand what was happening,
Speaker 1: because I know they make a lot of movies in
Speaker 1: Iceland now, but for some reason we could yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: Hollywood or so. I think that meant that someone didn't
Speaker 1: want to stay up all night long and run the heater.
Speaker 1: Pipes don't freeze. And I think the toilets are unionized
Speaker 1: in Iceland. I think that's what that's what the deal
Speaker 1: is that's a huge that's a very strong union, big
Speaker 1: union movie toilets. That has to be. Um. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you finished shooting that in October and then you I
Speaker 1: really before we asked the question, and to cut to
Speaker 1: a break, I do want to ask or talk about
Speaker 1: the sketch, which I think has taken on this weird
Speaker 1: life of its own. Um. But well, you came and
Speaker 1: hosted an November of this past season. It was highlight
Speaker 1: for me and highlight for everybody there. We were so
Speaker 1: excited that you were back. We did the sketch, a
Speaker 1: dress rehearsal called cast list, and then it got cut
Speaker 1: for time. But it's it's sort of has had it's
Speaker 1: a weird like little at a moment online. It was
Speaker 1: cut for time, but it was it was it was
Speaker 1: where you were the drama teacher and then well we
Speaker 1: were all the kids waiting for the cast. Did you
Speaker 1: help write that or no? No, that was that was
Speaker 1: Streeter and Mikey Streeter side and god, I love that sketch.
Speaker 1: I looked it up last night just to put for
Speaker 1: this interview, and I was just like, let's just like
Speaker 1: relive this and watch it. But then in my YouTube search.
Speaker 1: More like there's at least one video out there of
Speaker 1: an actual drama club out of high school like doing
Speaker 1: a line for line re enact smith of the sketch,
Speaker 1: adding their own details in there. But like, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is like part of like that little subculture
Speaker 1: now of like actual high school drama departments who like
Speaker 1: watch that sketch and are like, oh, this is so real,
Speaker 1: because that was the response. Everyone's like, this is so accurate,
Speaker 1: and and it was just kind of a collection of
Speaker 1: of stereotypical memories, memories of of drama types. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's well, that's I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: that's the good and bad part about the show is
Speaker 1: that things cut for time now have this second life.
Speaker 1: Um where in my in my day it was when
Speaker 1: it's cut for time, it was just it was just gone.
Speaker 1: You had to mourn it. You maybe would hopefully get
Speaker 1: to bring it back. But I I probably I yeah,
Speaker 1: I probably had as many people reacting to that as
Speaker 1: anything that was on the actual show. That Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how do you guys feel about when stuff gets put online?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have it have a second life on
Speaker 1: the real show or oh that's a good question. Um,
Speaker 1: I it depends. So for me, when it's when something
Speaker 1: gets cut for time that can't really be recreated with
Speaker 1: another host, I would say then, like that's when I've
Speaker 1: only had to do that once. And that was when
Speaker 1: RuPaul hosted in February and we he and I had
Speaker 1: a sketch that was cut for time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do this with another host,
Speaker 1: like she's like, and the fact that things are consumed
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, it's not totally exactly and
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are watching it the next
Speaker 1: morning anyway. Um, but yeah, like I hadn't really and
Speaker 1: and this is the myopic of me for not thinking that,
Speaker 1: like oh yeah before YouTube, like you know, just we're gone, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're just How great is RuPaul? By the way, so
Speaker 1: great are you? Interviewed him for Burgundy and we were
Speaker 1: just blown away at how smart the guy. The guy
Speaker 1: is so smart, he's kind of talk about anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he really has. He's incredible. My school dropout, right, So
Speaker 1: that's why I've been telling all like you, all the
Speaker 1: readers that listen to this, everyone's got to drop out
Speaker 1: of high school. This is what I keep you got.
Speaker 1: That's the new that's the new movement. That's my big initiative,
Speaker 1: and actually that we should make. We should say right
Speaker 1: now the title of this episode is dropped out of
Speaker 1: high school kids. Um. So just as we get that
Speaker 1: message out there straight away, I always feel like whenever
Speaker 1: did you tell me something is cut bowing it it
Speaker 1: always and it appears online the next day. I think
Speaker 1: that another thing we have to remember is not everyone
Speaker 1: is watching it at Saturday night anyway, and so it's
Speaker 1: like for them, for anyone, it's just like another SNL sketch.
Speaker 1: You know, they're just consuming piecemeal and granularly. Anyway, did
Speaker 1: the did the peaka boo jeans? Did that air on
Speaker 1: the on air? Or was that cut for Was that later?
Speaker 1: That also got cut for time? And I was very
Speaker 1: sad about it. Yes, they were out to get you
Speaker 1: that week, Bow and Yang. I didn't get any on
Speaker 1: um I did. I did get to um stand next
Speaker 1: to Will. Will was playing Tom Styer. I was playing
Speaker 1: indury ing Um and my my terrible terrible injurying. But
Speaker 1: then um but in this peakaboo, this rerangular peakaboose sketch
Speaker 1: written by um Alex Moffatt Will Stephen. Um. I was
Speaker 1: so excited because I there was a moment where you
Speaker 1: and I Will had to walk down this bar, but
Speaker 1: we just and we had bump butts and our our
Speaker 1: ass cracks were showing, and I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I get to like, did your butt crack touch
Speaker 1: touch his book cracks in touch? But yeah, it got
Speaker 1: it got pretty close. It got close. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't. I was like, I can't believe I
Speaker 1: get to air my asshole with Will and I got
Speaker 1: to uh to hip check a jukebox with my rengular peekaboos.
Speaker 1: Did that hurt? No? Not really. It was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: what if I walked over here and gave the jukebox
Speaker 1: a little, a little, a little how do you do?
Speaker 1: And uh? And that stayed in the commercial. That's your
Speaker 1: Your instincts are always perfect. Okay, let's no, no, not
Speaker 1: one thing, which is that I can't believe that we
Speaker 1: have not spoken about the sort of the sketch that
Speaker 1: you did with Cecily, which was the sort of reality
Speaker 1: show Bravo type thing James Anderson, and it also made
Speaker 1: me think of the sketch called when you saying call
Speaker 1: me a boy. Dot night that one years ago, like
Speaker 1: the cabaret what was it called? It was Kristen Wig
Speaker 1: and Bill were hosting like a jazz night. Oh I
Speaker 1: should know this James Anderson, that guy, he's a legend. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually listened to your guy's show with James. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's so funny to hear him be interviewed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's the best. We so you know, like we
Speaker 1: we came to visit Sudi Sudie Green, who's one of
Speaker 1: the writing supervisors, and we were upstairs. Eyes met yeah,
Speaker 1: and we met him and it was it was like
Speaker 1: one of those moments though, because that was another thing
Speaker 1: like around the same time, the same kind of people
Speaker 1: I was connecting with in high school over Anchorman also
Speaker 1: loved the sketches that we would later find out he
Speaker 1: was writing almost all of them, and so that was
Speaker 1: like a true moment, like he is he is amazing, No,
Speaker 1: And that was that was such a fun thing because
Speaker 1: I would just remember, oh, this is Paula Pell's friend
Speaker 1: James come by and then wait, James is now writing
Speaker 1: great and uh, but it's crazy that he's been writing
Speaker 1: for twenty years Yeah, he's a he's a hit machine
Speaker 1: head factory. Okay, we'll take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: be right back with Will. We'll ask the question. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we're back with Will. Matt, why don't you ask
Speaker 1: the questions? So here's the question that we've been alluding to,
Speaker 1: and it is the moment that we're going to ask it.
Speaker 1: So this is we're going to ask you, Will Ferrell,
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say? Culture is
Speaker 1: for me now to sort of boil this down, it's
Speaker 1: just defining pop culture. It could be something you saw
Speaker 1: as you were becoming you that sort of helped define
Speaker 1: how you did become you. Oh my gosh. Um, you know, well,
Speaker 1: there's probably a bunch of different answers. Okay, you mentioned, though, Matt,
Speaker 1: theme parks, your love of theme parks. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: e brace myself now. Okay. So, growing up in Orange County, California,
Speaker 1: in the mean streets of Irvine, Um, which which is
Speaker 1: Jason to Anaheim, home of Disneyland. So I grew up
Speaker 1: going to Disneyland probably two to three times a year.
Speaker 1: And in thinking about, um, this this actual question, Disneyland
Speaker 1: was a huge that was a huge part of my life.
Speaker 1: Think about amazing to hear. And I remember being five
Speaker 1: years old and thinking at my first thought of, uh,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do with my life.
Speaker 1: I came, but it wasn't being entertainment my my job
Speaker 1: that I pictured in my little kid head. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a character, so that I wanted to dress
Speaker 1: up as Goofy, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and just walk
Speaker 1: around the park. And I was, I was. I was
Speaker 1: thought that would be the most joy filled experience to
Speaker 1: get to, even though I have no no consideration what's
Speaker 1: for for temperature control or break time especially then, or
Speaker 1: the fact that you don't get to say a word,
Speaker 1: you just have to you are a silent human form.
Speaker 1: But I was in love with those with that kind
Speaker 1: of uh kind of watching, that kind of connection between
Speaker 1: the meat and green experience. Yeah, exactly, And I remember
Speaker 1: thinking that that those were probably the first seeds of
Speaker 1: wanting to entertain. We're planted with our annual biennual you know,
Speaker 1: three times a year forre lucky trips to Disneyland, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, trips to Disneyland started with tears and
Speaker 1: ended with tears because they're so damn tired, but tears
Speaker 1: of anticipation of not being able to sleep the night
Speaker 1: before going Tomorrow's the day we are gonna nothing like
Speaker 1: waking up on that morning. Nothing like waking up and
Speaker 1: nothing like I remember getting in the most ridiculous arguments
Speaker 1: with my brother about which rides we've got to go
Speaker 1: on first, And you know, the impulse is to go
Speaker 1: on matter Mount. You knows Matterhorn, Matterhorn right out of
Speaker 1: the game. I'm like, no, you gotta save it. You
Speaker 1: can't do Matterhorn right away. We got to start with
Speaker 1: the teacups and work our way up. And he's like,
Speaker 1: why would we do the teacup They're terrible? Um, but
Speaker 1: having fights about that and then before you know it,
Speaker 1: moms saying one more ride and we're like, and we're
Speaker 1: out what And it's tears and you've let go of
Speaker 1: your helium balloon as you see it drift off into
Speaker 1: the parking lot. So that's like a huge thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to say I'm I'm more of your brother
Speaker 1: type because I'm the kind of person, especially the way
Speaker 1: that they do it now where it's like with the
Speaker 1: fast pass of it all, where it's like you have
Speaker 1: to kind of get a reservation to do these rides,
Speaker 1: and if you don't get one, it's gonna run out
Speaker 1: for the rest of the day. So you kind of
Speaker 1: got to do that stuff early. That meet and great
Speaker 1: experience that you that you describe, it's on a whole
Speaker 1: other level now, especially in the past couple of years
Speaker 1: as some of the movies have really popped off, Like
Speaker 1: talking about Frozen. We went to Epcot one time and
Speaker 1: obviously there's no kids in my and my family and
Speaker 1: I don't really care about the meeting experience at this point,
Speaker 1: but um, it was like the line to meet Elsa
Speaker 1: was longer than any attraction line, Like it was like
Speaker 1: a four hour imagine, I thought to myself, like, imagine
Speaker 1: being a parent and you this is what you really
Speaker 1: have to be a selfless person to be a parent
Speaker 1: in Disney. But like standing in line for I'm not
Speaker 1: kidding you four hours to meet a woman who is
Speaker 1: dressed up as a character to get this experience for
Speaker 1: your kid. But but the little girls you could see
Speaker 1: it meant so much to exactly exactly, Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And then and then I, um, my dad. My dad's
Speaker 1: a musician and played for years on and off with
Speaker 1: the Righteous Brothers, and there were summers where they performed
Speaker 1: at Disneyland. Uh. And so that was like a magical experience.
Speaker 1: They have like the Tomorrowland stage which rises up out
Speaker 1: of the center of the earth like it does in
Speaker 1: the future, like like stage as well in the future
Speaker 1: we should say. Uh. And I was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is incredible. They had this like in Disney World.
Speaker 1: They have it's called the Starlight Cafe. I think it's
Speaker 1: called the Starlight Cafe where they have this like I've
Speaker 1: never been to disney World, by the way, Oh you
Speaker 1: must go. It's I mean, it's like Disneyland on true
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's an acid it's like fully exploded.
Speaker 1: It's ten thousand times bigger. It's like it's really a
Speaker 1: little overwhelming and a little bit kind of scary how
Speaker 1: big it is and what an expedition it is. But
Speaker 1: it's something you should go at least once. But they
Speaker 1: have this like alien playing the piano and sort of
Speaker 1: like doing like a like sort of cabaret like sort
Speaker 1: of thing while you eat your like fast food. And
Speaker 1: I used to think it was the coolest thing ever
Speaker 1: that they had an alien doing that. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's such a good touch to get the alien coming
Speaker 1: in the alien going. It was a full animatronic But Bowen,
Speaker 1: do you did you have a family pilgrimage to do
Speaker 1: to any of the Disney parks? We did. We um
Speaker 1: understood the significance of Disney, So we nine d nine
Speaker 1: when we we went and so um, but it was
Speaker 1: a thing where and this was a too built up
Speaker 1: It was not too built up. And I remember, I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember remember even as like a nine year old
Speaker 1: leaving and being like the succeed in my expectations, which
Speaker 1: which never happens as a child, I thought this was
Speaker 1: strictly like an immigrant thing. But I think this is
Speaker 1: just like if you're middle class. Um. But we couldn't
Speaker 1: eat in the park. We had to bring our sandwiches
Speaker 1: into the park. I was talking like buying a commemorative
Speaker 1: cup was a huge yes, huge deal and like my
Speaker 1: sister and I would use all our powers of persuasion
Speaker 1: to like get at universal um cup Jurassic Park with
Speaker 1: a t Rex head like that was like the prize
Speaker 1: that was yes, yes that was what you that was
Speaker 1: what you like went there for. So you could theoretically
Speaker 1: bring the cup home and bring it to school and
Speaker 1: like show your friends. Yeah, it is all about the cup.
Speaker 1: And remember the thing that they did to sell the
Speaker 1: cup was to tell you this is a cup that
Speaker 1: you can keep refilling. It was like, this is a
Speaker 1: special cup. You know, these other cups, these other young girls,
Speaker 1: you can't reveal them. This one you can fill back
Speaker 1: up with any refreshment of your job. I almost I
Speaker 1: almost worked there one summer in college and went through
Speaker 1: the orientation and everything and um uh, only to not
Speaker 1: show up for my first day of boy and because
Speaker 1: I wanted to be one of the jungle cruise guys,
Speaker 1: you know with the you know, so happy you brought
Speaker 1: this up, with the jokes and the whole banter and
Speaker 1: the I was like, I can do that. I could
Speaker 1: nail that. And I didn't realize that that's one of
Speaker 1: those jobs. You have to work there ten years at
Speaker 1: the park to get those. And it's like a whole
Speaker 1: audition process, hierarchy, it's the whole thing. And did you know,
Speaker 1: speaking of things, you but when you walk down Main
Speaker 1: Street the candy stores, they pump the scent of vanilla
Speaker 1: out into the streets. Oh, it's a huge It's everything
Speaker 1: about it is planned out. So I got a little
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. I didn't like it as much
Speaker 1: as when I was a kid. Well, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you peek behind the curtain there, you're not gonna like
Speaker 1: a lot of what's happening. I mean, those workers are
Speaker 1: under paid. Let's flat outside that right now. It's a
Speaker 1: rule of culture number those words under But this is
Speaker 1: the thing about Disneyland, I think, and even let's say
Speaker 1: Universal Studios or like not Sperry Farm, but like l
Speaker 1: A or in the in the southern California area, like
Speaker 1: Will talking about his dad playing gigs at Disneyland on
Speaker 1: the Tomorrowland stage, I'm like, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: does this track. It's like in New York you get
Speaker 1: like a bunch of performance venues and like growing up there,
Speaker 1: you get to like whatever, like engage with live performance
Speaker 1: as much as you want and whatever what you want.
Speaker 1: But I feel like in California it's like you go
Speaker 1: to see the theater in l A. But like that's
Speaker 1: not like what l A is known for, Like no,
Speaker 1: you totally Disney And then you see street performers where
Speaker 1: you see like people just performing live or even if
Speaker 1: they're just like slinging jokes at the Jungle Cruise. No,
Speaker 1: that was and and not s Very Farm. Another another
Speaker 1: kind of watching performance moment they had Well, I don't
Speaker 1: I'm I'm older than you guys, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys remember the song Convoy. We got a
Speaker 1: great old Convoy trucking on down the line. It was
Speaker 1: a song I love it. I just want to stop
Speaker 1: everything and say I love that. That's my favorite song.
Speaker 1: The guy's whole stick was he was it was music
Speaker 1: for truckers and he had this number one hit. God,
Speaker 1: we got a great old Convoy. It. He was performing
Speaker 1: at not Spury Farm, and I said, I said to
Speaker 1: my dad, like I gotta go see the show. I
Speaker 1: just gotta go. And so I sat there alone as
Speaker 1: a kid and watch and then found my I gave
Speaker 1: my gave him a standing ovation like with of course
Speaker 1: you did. Was like it was a damn good show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're great. That's the thing about those people that
Speaker 1: performed is that they're great. And and a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I know, um, you know they worked at
Speaker 1: Disneyland or you know. I now that we now that
Speaker 1: people have listened to this podcast and they know that
Speaker 1: I like Junior World so much and and I actually
Speaker 1: let them know when we're gonna be there. We've met
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that performed there and they're awesome.
Speaker 1: And um, it's funny that you bring up the Jungle
Speaker 1: Cruise Skipper because you want to know when I was young,
Speaker 1: my and Bowen knows this because I did a whole
Speaker 1: show about it when we were in New York. Um,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a Universal Studios the Jaws ride.
Speaker 1: The guy who was on the boat, like the skipper
Speaker 1: of the Jaws, skipper who is like We're doing a
Speaker 1: tour of amity and this I know every word. I'm
Speaker 1: literally off book on it, not right now, but in
Speaker 1: theory I am. And of course Jaws attacks the boat
Speaker 1: and he has to kind of be like oh no,
Speaker 1: and fire a grenade launcher at like fake sharks and
Speaker 1: like you know, react to everything. But that was my
Speaker 1: whole dream for years, as I wanted when I was
Speaker 1: a little I wanted to move there and be that,
Speaker 1: and then years later I was. I did it as
Speaker 1: a bit on stage where Bowen played the shark. Bowen
Speaker 1: played the shark and I was the skipper, and I
Speaker 1: would just be wildly shooting, and we would take members
Speaker 1: for the audience and we put them on the boat
Speaker 1: in the stage and that would be the stipper and
Speaker 1: Bowen would come out at different points and you see
Speaker 1: be Chelsea and attack the boat. Inch in shark costume?
Speaker 1: Do you have like a minimal shark costume? Very minimal
Speaker 1: shark costume. But I mean it was all in the performance.
Speaker 1: It was all in the vocal placement of you know,
Speaker 1: you're screaming shark. But it was me. I played Jaws,
Speaker 1: but I had inherited the role from writer from and Dressen,
Speaker 1: who writes SNL now and A. Dressen was the first
Speaker 1: shark when I did it at the People's Improv Theater
Speaker 1: and she, I guess, was was too busy to play
Speaker 1: the shark, and Bowen actually stepped in as the shark
Speaker 1: and I played our friend Dave Mazzoni played the fire
Speaker 1: and Anna got the boot and got never to play
Speaker 1: the shark again. Now, yeah, and she's actually not doing well. Now,
Speaker 1: She's really not doing well. Now when she looks back,
Speaker 1: she knows what she where she made her mistake, that
Speaker 1: she made her mistake there. But Bowen was an amazing
Speaker 1: shark place I don't know if you know this about Bowen,
Speaker 1: but he's an amazing performer, and he's explosive. He's so explosive. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he comes the way he would scream at the at
Speaker 1: the at the audience members, he was very scary. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're not expecting it from Bowen, who seems calm,
Speaker 1: cool and collected, and the next thing, you know, shark attack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were really many times where I felt he was,
Speaker 1: you know, endangering the people on stage. Would you just
Speaker 1: vocalize what you felt like a sharks that sound like
Speaker 1: or would you just say shark attack? Well, this is
Speaker 1: the thing. When Matt says he's off book, he's he's
Speaker 1: not only off book, but he's synchronized to the actual
Speaker 1: track that plays. That's impressive on the vehicle. So he
Speaker 1: would play the track at U C b um and
Speaker 1: it would I would have to synchronize. I had like
Speaker 1: you have to be ready to go, you can't. Ye,
Speaker 1: this was mariographed blocked thing. Yeah, no, we're not kidding.
Speaker 1: This is really true. This is very true. And in
Speaker 1: the track, jawns the sharks screams like this is like
Speaker 1: prime whatever they thought a shark noise was put in there.
Speaker 1: It was like a Jurassic Park roar, which surely does
Speaker 1: not happen with Sharks. But I had to sort of
Speaker 1: match my pitch, my tone to whatever was in the track,
Speaker 1: and I had to form audio cues, like internal like
Speaker 1: self made cues like oh, when when there's a rustle
Speaker 1: at this at like minute four, that's when I'll be right,
Speaker 1: you know, if you know, Jaws famously has a very
Speaker 1: signature soundtrack, and so there's points in the music where
Speaker 1: Bone would know, this is where I enter stage left
Speaker 1: and scream at the people that Maths put in the boat.
Speaker 1: And also we should say they were also multi sort
Speaker 1: of like four D elements where I would have buckets
Speaker 1: of water, I had a water gun I would set
Speaker 1: and the audience would get wet and I would Actually
Speaker 1: the show was called you Will Get Wet, and it
Speaker 1: is online. It is on YouTube. I'm I'm checking that
Speaker 1: out as soon as we're done here. You must check
Speaker 1: it out. It was and yes, by the way, it
Speaker 1: was a musical. So this was not just a four
Speaker 1: minutes This is a long. It started as a bit
Speaker 1: I was doing on stage where I just did the
Speaker 1: Jaws ride and it was like people would like book
Speaker 1: me for like a stand up set, and I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: I need time in the space beforehand here in my
Speaker 1: tech I need. It became too much of a thing.
Speaker 1: One's gonna do the show too. Yes, So I did
Speaker 1: it like several times, and then I was like, this
Speaker 1: will not sustain. I can't do this like on the scene.
Speaker 1: I must actually do it as part of its own show.
Speaker 1: And so I wrote a show. It was called You
Speaker 1: Will Get Wet. It was all about a fictionalized version
Speaker 1: of myself wanting to be the Jaws boat skipper, and
Speaker 1: it culminated in the Jaws performance, which was my addition together.
Speaker 1: And that's bone was incredible Shark and he's gone on
Speaker 1: to do amazing things as a result of playing of
Speaker 1: you and some of you. Um, but it's still it's
Speaker 1: still listened in your credits though, right, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I am yeah, I am Broadway Broadway Dada perfect. It
Speaker 1: was Broadway, yeah, the Broadway database. Well no, but I
Speaker 1: mean I I do like this concept of like you
Speaker 1: like going to like as a destination performance, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go see the guy who sings convoy um, and
Speaker 1: like that's like that's like, what like sparks something in you.
Speaker 1: It was a bonus, a pleasant surprise that you know whatever.
Speaker 1: June afternoon, I just happened to see that that performer
Speaker 1: was at the you know, Silver Wagon show room and
Speaker 1: that not very farm and amazing. Yeah, yeah, before we do,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, I want to asked about
Speaker 1: where you're placing. So okay, so big many Players Network,
Speaker 1: new podcast network network with I heart Media from Will
Speaker 1: and thank you for producing us, and thank god, thank
Speaker 1: you guys for coming on board. This is a a
Speaker 1: coupe all the time. And there's that that we were
Speaker 1: talking about, um making a way in that comedy. It's perfect.
Speaker 1: I feel like, okay, so so I like that. I
Speaker 1: feel I would say the flagship show is the Ron
Speaker 1: Burgundy podcast now. And and you have Carolina, who's your assistant,
Speaker 1: who's lovely, we've met, she's phenomenal. Perfect But okay, but Ron,
Speaker 1: let's place Ron like in space time here, so he
Speaker 1: is in the he's in like yeah yeah, but like
Speaker 1: but yeah, he hasn't really aged since the seventies, right, No,
Speaker 1: he hasn't aged. He's kind of yeah, he's stuck at
Speaker 1: whatever A g is a robust late forties Okay, I
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, and he's learning. He's like he's like
Speaker 1: learning so much about this world and like he's trying
Speaker 1: to evolve. Yeah, he um and he he ping pongs
Speaker 1: back and forth between. Sometimes he is incredibly enlightened, he's
Speaker 1: right with modern times and you kind of can't believe
Speaker 1: Ron's really this with it. And then other times he
Speaker 1: of course is is hopeless. Um, and poor Carolina suffers
Speaker 1: the brunt of a lot of Ron's uh misinformation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's perfect in that Carolina is straight manning you. But um,
Speaker 1: but also I feel like what Ron is going through
Speaker 1: is like a nice mental model. It's a nice blueprint
Speaker 1: for everybody to to see. Oh, I can be so
Speaker 1: far behind on something, but very as you said, enlightened
Speaker 1: in others and willing to learn, but prone to us
Speaker 1: to flare ups and abusive language and abusive behavior, which
Speaker 1: is not fair. But he's always apologetic. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: that's that's what we gotta take away. That's what we got.
Speaker 1: He's trying his best. Ultimately, Now, where does the Veronica
Speaker 1: corning Stone exist in this universe? Are they still married?
Speaker 1: Is that? As shame moved on Veronica isn't referenced that often.
Speaker 1: In fact, Ron is always talking about past girl friends.
Speaker 1: It kind of makes no sense. Um. And in fact,
Speaker 1: the last season Ron um uh Ron had a relationship
Speaker 1: with with Siah right yes, about two or three episodes
Speaker 1: he was dating Cia, which he Sia did tell Ron
Speaker 1: she was interested in hang out, but they and she
Speaker 1: had to break it off. And but I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think she was as serious about it as Ron
Speaker 1: was to be quite honestly. So he's a little broken
Speaker 1: hearted over that still, but he's technically still married, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I would love to hear him discuss that. And
Speaker 1: Baxter's probably a hundred years old and been through so much.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of things are being bent, yeah,
Speaker 1: right in his reality. And this is not to say that,
Speaker 1: um the lawns of physics even applied in the original movies,
Speaker 1: right right, but they definitely don't apply in the podcast
Speaker 1: of course. Way with it. Yeah, yeah, it's a looser medium,
Speaker 1: write you, yeah, super loose ye. This medium there is
Speaker 1: amongst loose lips, loose lips medium, you know, loose lips medium.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's actually the sister network of big money
Speaker 1: players loose Lips medium and I'm starting it and it's
Speaker 1: only podcast with mediums. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I have Theresa Caputo. Uh,
Speaker 1: she's the Long Island medium and I have at least
Speaker 1: twenty podcast pitches from her already already since I've said it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she already knew. She was like, I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: someone to say they had a podcast for mediums, and
Speaker 1: so she read ready to go, Ready to go. They
Speaker 1: all they sound, they sound okay, Um, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we're gonna come back with
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Okay, and we're back even
Speaker 1: and we're back even, Okay. So I think it's time
Speaker 1: for I don't think so Honey. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey. Is our one minute segment where
Speaker 1: we take one minute to rail against something in culture. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, there's a lot to look
Speaker 1: forward to, there's a lot to feel some dread around.
Speaker 1: I would say there's a lot going on in the world. Um,
Speaker 1: I have chosen a topic that is not necessarily I
Speaker 1: would say topical per se. And I would say a
Speaker 1: lot of people might not even be thinking about this
Speaker 1: at all. And that's actually why I feel it's important,
Speaker 1: because in this time, something slipped through the cracks and
Speaker 1: and everyone I I'm ready now. I should just preface
Speaker 1: this by saying, as a result of my bike accident
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, my phone is still shattered, so bone,
Speaker 1: I will need you to what was your accident? Well, well,
Speaker 1: what happened was? Should I not ask? Am I opening
Speaker 1: a can of word? And I'm actually very open about
Speaker 1: my my injuries. Um, so I have flipped. I flipped
Speaker 1: over the bars. It was stupid too. It was I
Speaker 1: was riding my bike and I went to break so
Speaker 1: I could put directions in my phone, which is just
Speaker 1: not a way you should behave in life. And I
Speaker 1: flipped over the front and landed on my elbow and wrist. Luckily,
Speaker 1: we're fine. I just have some I've banged up a
Speaker 1: little bit. That's that's not so bad in the world
Speaker 1: of bike bike injuries. My boyfriend said it looked like
Speaker 1: I was dead. Like he said that it was. It
Speaker 1: was a kind of shocking that I didn't die. He
Speaker 1: sounds just a little disappointed, Um, but I was No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. He he likes me, but he was like,
Speaker 1: I was so shocked that you were able to get
Speaker 1: up because I almost let me know how you are.
Speaker 1: But I'm the kind of person that I freak out
Speaker 1: about little things like my internet will be cutting out
Speaker 1: every now and then, like I can't get my Netflix
Speaker 1: to work, like it was a real m had a
Speaker 1: real time trying to get Eurovision to play because my
Speaker 1: internet was going in. And that's the kind of ship
Speaker 1: that I lose my mind about. But I flipped over
Speaker 1: the front scene of my handlebars on my bike and
Speaker 1: I was just like, it's cool. Just like drive back
Speaker 1: and drive back with the car and come get me.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's crazy that you didn't freak out about that,
Speaker 1: but like, wait he had to pick you up. Well,
Speaker 1: we were far away from the house, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, just continue to ride on your bike. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sit here, you get the car, come back. And
Speaker 1: he was like, I can't believe you're being so measured
Speaker 1: because you're such a crazy idiot. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it was this, It was this was not on such
Speaker 1: a busy road. I take it. It really wasn't. We
Speaker 1: actually we were on we were on vacation. We left
Speaker 1: l A for a little while, and it happened like
Speaker 1: far away in like the suburb area. So I flipped
Speaker 1: over and I was like, Okay, this wasn't like a
Speaker 1: busy intersection or any it was. It was very actually
Speaker 1: was very temcular, I would say, and I was, and
Speaker 1: I was about to say that, um so anyway, by
Speaker 1: antman John, he does not have to do with that,
Speaker 1: though I do feel it's important if you care about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's a good profesce. This is Matt Robbers.
Speaker 1: Wasn't his time starts now? I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The circus, it's bitch. There's nuts everywhere on the damn floor.
Speaker 1: Clean it up. How come the circus is something people
Speaker 1: go to circles? Circus is I'm gonna say controversially, Eurovision
Speaker 1: without singing? Excuse me. If you're expecting me to pay
Speaker 1: to watch someone flip over, excuse me. I could turn
Speaker 1: in once a year every May and see someone do flips.
Speaker 1: And also built a high G sharp. I bet you
Speaker 1: didn't think that note existed on the musical scales. Guess
Speaker 1: what bitch it do? Yes? I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The circus. I have to sit in what is a
Speaker 1: circle to watch something, and oftentimes this is not an
Speaker 1: optimal way to watch things. I like to theater bit,
Speaker 1: I like to be seated and watch the audience perform
Speaker 1: out staging. Wise, I have problems with the circus. Now,
Speaker 1: let's get real. These animals are enslaved. They need to
Speaker 1: become free. I don't want to see an elephant in
Speaker 1: a big hat. I want to see an elephant with
Speaker 1: no hat in the what African wilderness or wherever they live.
Speaker 1: They also are in Thailand. If I'm to believe the
Speaker 1: many Instagram photos I see from hashtag white people, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. The circus and the enslavement of elephants.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute in seventeen seconds. Well, I went
Speaker 1: a little over take that Greatest Showman. And can I
Speaker 1: say the reason I'm even thinking about this is because
Speaker 1: we just watched The Greatest Showman the other night and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a circus of a film,
Speaker 1: right right. But I did enjoy it. I did enjoy
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it too, And some of the music is
Speaker 1: so damn good. Rewrite the stars. It's a moment we
Speaker 1: love Zendia. We love Zach Effron. We wish he would
Speaker 1: do more musical things. It's no double trouble. It's no
Speaker 1: thank you, it's no double trouble of the song from
Speaker 1: if we're ranking duets and film, double trouble stars is
Speaker 1: no double trouble. Gosh, that was a tour divorce there, Yes,
Speaker 1: it really was. I think it's a rule of culture.
Speaker 1: The circus is just your vision without singing that. The
Speaker 1: circus is just without And I would also say like
Speaker 1: the circus would be better if someone came out at
Speaker 1: the end and we all devote on the different an
Speaker 1: x and there was like a sort of Eurovision moment
Speaker 1: of actress because I need I need some competition at
Speaker 1: the circus. That's the way to bring the circus back
Speaker 1: is with the absolutely element. Und I want to say
Speaker 1: that anything that's circus themed, I'm also not on board with.
Speaker 1: I'm watching Legendary, that ballroom show, that being show on
Speaker 1: HBO Max. The every episode is great. My least favorite
Speaker 1: was the episode where they did a circus theme and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care for any of this.
Speaker 1: I don't actually care for the aesthetic of a circus
Speaker 1: or the fact that I'm supposed to be transported to
Speaker 1: a circus setting him like, I don't really, this doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything to me. Well, circuses have dark of course,
Speaker 1: and we should say that. And also P. T. Barnham
Speaker 1: was not this magician that we all think. He had
Speaker 1: hashtag problems, but he was very handsome. He was very,
Speaker 1: very handsome and very convinced. According the Greatest Showman, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you looked anything like Hugh Jackman. Have you ever
Speaker 1: met Hugh Jackman. Yeah, I met him a couple of times. Delightful.
Speaker 1: Is it something to be hold? It is? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he actually hosted the show when I was there and
Speaker 1: we did a Oh yeah, I bet back in his
Speaker 1: Wolverine days. Yeah, exactly. He's got pipes. He's got the
Speaker 1: pipes for real. Oh he's he's speaking of pipes. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna mention, remember that era when all the
Speaker 1: pop star girls were doing circus themed things like Brittany
Speaker 1: Spears had Circus, Pink had fun House. There was like
Speaker 1: in this era where all the pop stars were like
Speaker 1: in circuses. I think it's ongoing. Maybe it is. It's
Speaker 1: great to think about that. There was, wasn't there. CBS's
Speaker 1: evening of of the stars and they would do they
Speaker 1: would act, they would train and do circus acts. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like a thing. It was like, we're gonna watch,
Speaker 1: you know, Amy Brennaman do the exactly. Yeah, Amy Brennaman
Speaker 1: is gonna do the Strapeeze the stars of CBS shows
Speaker 1: within Yeah, they would, they would put them in circus scenarios.
Speaker 1: So that happened. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's it's
Speaker 1: almost like the entertainment industry thinks the circus is a
Speaker 1: thing it can bring back, sort of like variety shows
Speaker 1: or something. Were you ever served people at all? Do
Speaker 1: you have any appreciation for that? By the way, I
Speaker 1: I auditioned. I tried to audition for you know what,
Speaker 1: you'd be good at Blue Man Group? Oh, I that
Speaker 1: would be something that would be a limited run of
Speaker 1: Blue Man Group. I think that you would be really
Speaker 1: good in a group that I kid you not. The
Speaker 1: guy on the left is Will Ferrell. How do you know.
Speaker 1: I swear he was on Lost Culture. So about wanting
Speaker 1: to do a run on Blue Man Group, and I
Speaker 1: swear that's him. It would be very good. That'd be
Speaker 1: very meta. That'd be very meta. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they'd be happy. I think that your top
Speaker 1: credit from now on should be lost cultures. Is that okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: Number one? Yeah, I wanted to I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: before that became canon. Um bow and Yang. I think
Speaker 1: it might be time for you to do it. I
Speaker 1: don't think so okay, all right, this is Bowen yangs.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, and his time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Family size anything. You don't
Speaker 1: know my life. Don't know my life and family size
Speaker 1: something is on the opposite spectrum of meals for one
Speaker 1: in the frozen aisle. Do not try to push this
Speaker 1: nuclear family narrative on me. Don't try to shape my
Speaker 1: lifestyle into something that I don't want or am not
Speaker 1: ready for quite yet. So let me buy the small,
Speaker 1: reasonably priced bag of hot cheetos. Let me buy the
Speaker 1: big bag, actually the moderately sized bag of pizza roles
Speaker 1: when I'm shopping at the grocery store. Grocery stores, as
Speaker 1: we know, are basically the most perilous, dangerous, precarious places
Speaker 1: in the world. Right now, bringing ground psychologically happen me
Speaker 1: for there with this ideological nightmare that you are trying
Speaker 1: to graft onto my lifestyle. Bitch, I'm gonna be single,
Speaker 1: and I might own two dogs, one fair who doesn't
Speaker 1: smell because of what genetic modification thing. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: And I have to say family style is a psychological
Speaker 1: ideological attack. And then it's funny that it's great that
Speaker 1: we say that. It's important that we say that when
Speaker 1: you are a family style restaurant or food product service,
Speaker 1: it's an ideological I've never thought of it that way
Speaker 1: in agreement, thank you. There's no reason for it. It's
Speaker 1: normative and we don't need it. We only pizza should
Speaker 1: be personal only, and that's actually rule of culture number sixty.
Speaker 1: Pizza should be personal only, four little slices. Every anything
Speaker 1: else is normative family style ideological attack. Even though when
Speaker 1: I go to a restaurant, I always ask if that
Speaker 1: can be served family style? Whatever I'm eating, I will
Speaker 1: say I like the style at restaurants, even if you're not,
Speaker 1: even if you're not in a family. This is a betrayal. Hans,
Speaker 1: our producer, just said I love family style. Get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. No one asked you. Who the
Speaker 1: hell asked you a head of Content Hans he is
Speaker 1: he is HC, so he is HFC, and I mean HFC.
Speaker 1: Hans can actually take several seats because no one asked him.
Speaker 1: No one asked him. Why did he have to chime in?
Speaker 1: I have to say, I think we've discussed this on
Speaker 1: the pod before, but it's true. It's like family style.
Speaker 1: You know, when and I am talking about restaurants, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there, but you order family style, it's
Speaker 1: usually one person deciding everything that gets ordered, and then
Speaker 1: you'll see yah. No. Hans also says anti family stylist,
Speaker 1: anti immigrants out here. No one asked you, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: but how was an anti immigrant? Because family style is
Speaker 1: and tell him. Hans says, okay, okay. So the idea
Speaker 1: of like single plates, single serve is very much like
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say, it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: like not even a European concept, but it feels like
Speaker 1: an American concept, whereas if you eat family style, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just this is how a lot of this
Speaker 1: is a lot of like immigrant cultures around the world eat,
Speaker 1: and so you know, and the fact that we have
Speaker 1: to even call it family style to differentiate it from
Speaker 1: the norm is kind of you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: other rising language. I don't mean to together. I have
Speaker 1: an announcement to s j W about this, but that's
Speaker 1: my thing. What I actually have an announcement to make okay,
Speaker 1: As as a result of this conversation and the exchange
Speaker 1: of ideas, I've changed and I now have come to
Speaker 1: a place where I realized that family style is the
Speaker 1: only way that we should be eating at restaurants and
Speaker 1: absorbing food and time together. And I want to apologize
Speaker 1: for recent comments in which I and which I called
Speaker 1: family style not good. End of statement. I actually think too,
Speaker 1: this could be transcended into a new uh, a new
Speaker 1: positive euphemism, like, hey, what's up we all let's we're
Speaker 1: all family style? Right yet? Yeah, that's really good. I
Speaker 1: don't know what its specifically is about, but yeah, the
Speaker 1: new title of this episode is family family Style. What
Speaker 1: was it previously? I don't remember out of school to
Speaker 1: drop out of school kids. Well, I don't know, I do.
Speaker 1: I do want to send that message out. Well, it's
Speaker 1: pretty explicit in the episode. I think the title family
Speaker 1: style is nice. It's inviting. I want to point out Matt.
Speaker 1: That turn that was there, that was not only spectacular,
Speaker 1: that was very Ron Burgundy, very like you know, I
Speaker 1: aspire to be um late twenties gay Ron Burgundy. And
Speaker 1: I say that as a thirty year old man. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. Will. I think it's time for Will to do.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. It's time for Gosh. Okay, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna nail. You're gonna nail. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to launch into it, right, You're supposed
Speaker 1: to launch it. Here we go. We're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: kick you up. This is Will Ferrells. I don't think
Speaker 1: so many as time starts now, I don't think so. Honey.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Lady G. Okay, let's talk about Senator
Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham from the great state of South Carolina. You
Speaker 1: can't show up with the beautiful blonde hair and the
Speaker 1: puffy hair do and not be Lady g. You are
Speaker 1: full on Lady G and just let it all go
Speaker 1: go and you will become a folk hero. You will
Speaker 1: be allowed back in South Carolina, that's fine, but you
Speaker 1: will be trumpeted, you will be heralded in New York
Speaker 1: l A, Miami, Philadelphia, any major city in America, and
Speaker 1: people will bow out to you Lady G five seconds.
Speaker 1: And that's what I don't think, So I agree. So
Speaker 1: so that's one minute. I have to say, I personally
Speaker 1: will never forgive him for doing the things that he's done,
Speaker 1: but I will say, if he wants to come hang out,
Speaker 1: he can go sit in the corner of the bar
Speaker 1: over there. But that's the thing. He could go sit
Speaker 1: in the corner and he could do a Lady G
Speaker 1: tour and he could go, Hey, you guys are right.
Speaker 1: I was wrong about this. I was wrong about that,
Speaker 1: and I was wrong, but I was too scared to
Speaker 1: just step out and be who I really am. And uh,
Speaker 1: that would be a powerful thing now for people his
Speaker 1: his his generation who may be struggling in the same way.
Speaker 1: I think that perhaps it would be very powerful. It
Speaker 1: would be because I think that's an epidemic. Absolutely. I
Speaker 1: would say that in order for Lady G to be
Speaker 1: full redeemable in my eyes, you have to do something
Speaker 1: to like to rescind the Brett Kavanaugh appointment. I think,
Speaker 1: like I think he was like, well he would, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd have to come clean on a list the whole
Speaker 1: list of things that goes without saying that can only
Speaker 1: be addressed in a one man show. I think I
Speaker 1: think he, I think he has to come out in
Speaker 1: a one way show Lady G like, well, what's that
Speaker 1: Lady Day Like the Dan McDonald play that she wanted
Speaker 1: Tony for. It has to be that, But Lady G. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's the only way I can forgive Lindsey Graham is
Speaker 1: if he does Lady G at at Emerson's Barn, grill
Speaker 1: at the Turkish Baths, at the Russian Lady g at
Speaker 1: the Russian Baths, And it has to be storytelling with songs,
Speaker 1: with songs, and then I can talk about forgiving Lady G.
Speaker 1: It would be the first step in frankness. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I should say I'm not buying a ticket to the show,
Speaker 1: but he started to do the show, Yeah, right, as
Speaker 1: part of the mini steps. Yeah, just start with the show,
Speaker 1: start with the one man show, and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll we can begin a dialogue perchance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I was gobsmacked at the Platinum Blonde. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, there there's there's a lot,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there actually during quarantine, who's
Speaker 1: getting their hair worked on. I mean, look what's happening here.
Speaker 1: That looks great. Here's the thing, that's what gays in
Speaker 1: crisis do. They go platinum blonde. So to watch him
Speaker 1: sort of like live that tell tale sign. Yes, all
Speaker 1: the messes in my life, like you see them go
Speaker 1: platinum blonde the second let the second things start going south.
Speaker 1: So to see him like in the midst of like
Speaker 1: the gop I hope, finally finally tanking in front of
Speaker 1: our eyes, to see him go platinum on the world stage.
Speaker 1: It's just two on the nose. It's two on the nose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's actually going to be the opening number. Two
Speaker 1: on the nose, on the nose, it's two on the
Speaker 1: nose me, Lady g G l G. Yeah, that's I
Speaker 1: think that's actually a really good opening number, and I
Speaker 1: think it would it would rival all that jazz as
Speaker 1: the great opening numbers of our time. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Is there any way to figure out who coined the
Speaker 1: moniker Lady G Well, supposedly that's his self self anointed name. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not self appointed. It's the sex workers that he
Speaker 1: allegedly hired right began calling him lady in order to
Speaker 1: refer to him without saying Senator Lindsay Graham of South Carolina,
Speaker 1: because they would be nervous about a paper trail. This
Speaker 1: is the thing, though, is this is the thing that's
Speaker 1: wrong with um. The allegations is that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of conflicting inform, contradicting information. Where what I read was
Speaker 1: Lady G was what he wanted the sex workers to
Speaker 1: call him. I feel that's see, that's a bridge too
Speaker 1: far from me. He was like, not only am I closeted,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to be referred as Lady G. I
Speaker 1: think he'd make up some boring name artist formally known
Speaker 1: as Lady G. Yeah. Well now, and I feel bad
Speaker 1: if Lady G is what he did want to be called,
Speaker 1: and now he kind of like has had that taken
Speaker 1: away from him. Actually just kidding, I don't feel bad. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just fascinating. Yeah, if if he's just stuck and
Speaker 1: cannot doesn't have the courage to kind of you know, look,
Speaker 1: I mean that that's it's really dark and sad, and
Speaker 1: I actually I mean then you get to all this,
Speaker 1: how do you pronounce it? Is it Matt gets this
Speaker 1: stuff with the nineteen year old quote unquote, son, I
Speaker 1: just I just learned about that yesterday. I I literally
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Yeah, know that there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on, and I always feel like, um, the people
Speaker 1: that feel the need to be the most publicly disparaging
Speaker 1: about certain group, you have to wonder what their complex
Speaker 1: is about that group. You know. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: with this kind of all this talk about you know,
Speaker 1: LGBT rights and um, you know, with the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: doing what they've done recently, it's like seeing people and
Speaker 1: thinking about people that would stand against that. It's like,
Speaker 1: what is your damage? Man? Like, what is your deal?
Speaker 1: Like why do you need to step in the way
Speaker 1: of someone's job being protected? And they always bring it
Speaker 1: back to well, people should have control over who they hire,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what this is such a redirection from
Speaker 1: what the issue is, which is equality and their treatment.
Speaker 1: So you have to wonder about these people that are
Speaker 1: the most vocal about an issue, and that's this is
Speaker 1: I'll stop short of saying more, but like, if someone
Speaker 1: out there is the most vocal about an issue and
Speaker 1: really makes themselves a figurehead, I always think we have
Speaker 1: to kind of question that that person, like, what's the deal? Well,
Speaker 1: you and I'm met are most vocal about Eurovision in
Speaker 1: song contest. The story of fire, Saga and our complex
Speaker 1: is that all of it. We hope everyone sees it.
Speaker 1: June the segue of the year. I was incredible. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, my damage is that we weren't in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's well what the fun was up? But they're bad.
Speaker 1: That's our that's my full Lady G. I pulled. That's
Speaker 1: your lady G. Yeah that was you were too afraid
Speaker 1: to put us in it because you knew we would
Speaker 1: shine right to exactly you knew we would shine too bright.
Speaker 1: I um, I'm gonna have to redeem myself. I have
Speaker 1: a way you can do that. Can you publicly stay
Speaker 1: right now that me and Bowen should be cast as
Speaker 1: the eels and Flotsam and Jetsam in the Little Mermaid movie.
Speaker 1: That's all we want. I want to go on record
Speaker 1: that Matt Rogers and Bowne Yang should be cast as
Speaker 1: the eels, Flotsam and Jetsam, Yes, in the upcoming Little
Speaker 1: Mermaid movie. And there there's kind of no other choice.
Speaker 1: I really think there is I don't think that was
Speaker 1: an And what you've done there as red has redeemed you.
Speaker 1: And I want to say it goes along with yeah,
Speaker 1: it's done, it's done. It's that feel like it's like
Speaker 1: my family style moment. It's like this is this is
Speaker 1: your family style moment. We've got a lot of redemption
Speaker 1: on the pod today. Wow, that's good. Well, Will Ferrell,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the podcast. So
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. And uh, you guys are
Speaker 1: so smart and funny and uh's really creative and it's
Speaker 1: just fun to finally be on here and great that
Speaker 1: you guys were willing to come on the platform and
Speaker 1: and no joke, you were one of the first ideas
Speaker 1: we thought of, and that was Carolina was like, you
Speaker 1: got you have to listen to last Coulturesta's and then
Speaker 1: my heart was like we already know who these guys are,
Speaker 1: so it was it was it's just great to kind
Speaker 1: of formally get to hang out, you know, totally, and
Speaker 1: we wish we could do it in person. We will,
Speaker 1: you'll be back. I think we should hang out in
Speaker 1: Bowen's yellow room there my parents my parents basement. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we have to do it. They would love that.
Speaker 1: I think I think they would actually really respond to
Speaker 1: that idea, to be honest. Um, Well, likewise, thank you
Speaker 1: for everything you've done making us laugh all these years,
Speaker 1: and for having us on this platform. Thank you so
Speaker 1: so much. And the movie is great. We love you. Well,
Speaker 1: let's close that every episode with the song. We close
Speaker 1: out each and every episode with the song. Okay great,
Speaker 1: huh huh u huh okay v okay you guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just like to put this down, sorry to read
Speaker 1: the soundtracking by the part just comes out. Everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: know it off word perfect