WEBVTT - Richard Jefferson Compares LeBron, Durant and Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into NBA Pulster production of I Heart Radio in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. I'm sarahcu Stock, NBA analyst for the S Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is Friday, January six. I got a special guest

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<v Speaker 1>here today with me friend colleague TikTok Sensation Hush TV

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<v Speaker 1>star in seventeen year NBA vet Richard Jefferson. Rich thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining. I know you've got a busy schedule, so

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for taking a little time. Everybody. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>like set set the stage. Um, we're closed to be

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<v Speaker 1>on about twenty minutes ago, and I decided, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my my charge my laptops not art because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I've ever used in the laptop four

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<v Speaker 1>it's presumes and then it closes back up, it closes

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<v Speaker 1>back up. I don't do word, I don't do excel.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never like written an actual email that's not on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone. So I apologize to the to the crew.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you guys. Let's get started. You I called

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<v Speaker 1>you a TV star, but you should know the best

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<v Speaker 1>content is normally at the top of the show. And

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<v Speaker 1>thanks thanks for kicking off kicking off our show with

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<v Speaker 1>that context. Um in all sincerity. Yesterday the first fan

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<v Speaker 1>returns of the voting for the NBA All Star came out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it up the top a lot of the player

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<v Speaker 1>you played against, a lot of players, you have been

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<v Speaker 1>teammates of a lot of players. But no surprise, Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James was the top vote getter for the West. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant in the East, the top Garden the West, Steph Curry,

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<v Speaker 1>top guard in the East, Kyrie Irving. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with Lebron James. Um a lot to look into

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<v Speaker 1>with him. He is just under five points UM from

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<v Speaker 1>passing Kareem Abdul Jabbar for the all time scoring record.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about Lebron this season, uh, it's now

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<v Speaker 1>his twentieth season, thirty eight years old. Where the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>sit right now put in context your view of where

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<v Speaker 1>things sit for Lebron. I think one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>misconceptions is that Braun went to l A to like

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<v Speaker 1>like go out to greener pastures and just like to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like ease into retirement and to oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>won a championships. Like We've watched Lebron now for over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years, and one of the things that we watched

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<v Speaker 1>is how competitive he is and consistently is like greatness

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<v Speaker 1>is He's one of those people that are I truly

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<v Speaker 1>believe are cursed with greatness. Like that's all he wants, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's that's what he's obsessed about. And so to see

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<v Speaker 1>this season kind of go you understand one season. You

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<v Speaker 1>understand one season like hey, injuries, this and that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think to see the the you know, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the lack of shooting, the lack of roster construction,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just like basically last year was watched.

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<v Speaker 1>This year they've kind of gone into it. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>Laker organization is like, hey, we're gonna wait and see, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James not want to wait and see kind of

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<v Speaker 1>timetable and he showing that. He is showing that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go out here and go thirty every single night.

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<v Speaker 1>No A d I got you. Of course he gets

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<v Speaker 1>up mcbroject, I'm gonna do the best I can. And

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<v Speaker 1>so watching Braun, there's a level of respect that I

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<v Speaker 1>have that even when on one of probably the worst

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<v Speaker 1>constructive teams that he's been on, he's still going out

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<v Speaker 1>there and being great like not not good, not strong,

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<v Speaker 1>not consistent, He's going out there being great games, gets

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<v Speaker 1>three hawks and knocked it down. Uh, it's a compliment

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<v Speaker 1>to him. And it's just it's just tough to watch

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<v Speaker 1>this the construction of this team really dictating people, but

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<v Speaker 1>old Bron has done. It's like, no, Bron just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the caliber of players that he's normally had on

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<v Speaker 1>his team for the last like fifteen years. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been extraordinary to watch the different iterations of teams

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<v Speaker 1>he's been on his level of greatness. Um, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing this season, twenty nine points, seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, free abound seven a half. Syste numbers are there.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, he's probably I mean, if if you

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<v Speaker 1>go by those averages fifteen sixteen, seventeen games away from

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<v Speaker 1>passing uh passing Kareem, how do you view Lebron's at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. There's still more to more to play, but

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy in his place in NBA history, Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been the most dominant player of this air. His

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<v Speaker 1>stats will be the greatest that the NBA has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the one critique that you might have of them,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're just going to take out what your personal

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<v Speaker 1>feelings are about him, Uh, I think would be the

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<v Speaker 1>critique would be like did he win enough championship to

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<v Speaker 1>be considered the greatest of all time? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing is that as the league has grown,

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<v Speaker 1>as the league has expanded, as the game has expanded,

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<v Speaker 1>I think dominance is very very similar when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Bill Russell's eleven, when you look at Kareem. When

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kareem has six championships, Magic's five championships, Jordan's six,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Kobe had five, bron Steph have four. Like

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<v Speaker 1>to me that that you know, it could go either

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<v Speaker 1>way with with with the winning that these guys have done.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I look at like where he stands, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you can make an argument for one to three, four, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever your favorite player are. Some people have Kobe as

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<v Speaker 1>as their favorite player. I will say this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just so it's not lost, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest basketball player or has had the greatest basketball career,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't lose a game in high school, three national championships,

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<v Speaker 1>all time leading scorer. You know, he's got all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Braun didn't go to college, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at current day modern basketball and the last,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say for the nineties on. I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a player be as great for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen Lebron James and so however you want to

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<v Speaker 1>however people would like to to put that into their

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<v Speaker 1>goat conversation. Um, you know, that's up to them, real,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, because I want to get to Kevin obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to steph Um. What was Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>like as a teammate during the finals and during a

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<v Speaker 1>post and not just I understand a teammate in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, but you guys won a championship together. How

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<v Speaker 1>would you describe what he was like as a teammate

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<v Speaker 1>during that stretch. That's over. That's over. Clayland is a

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<v Speaker 1>city of champions once again. The Cavaliers are NBA champions.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's there's I have never seen in my seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 1>And I stand by this plan. With Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>your Kich I played with, uh, Tim duncan Tone, all

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<v Speaker 1>the guys are dirt. I've never seen a single player

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<v Speaker 1>take on more responsibility right never. As far as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna score, I'm gonna get tennissists, I'm gonna rebound. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same defender he wants to was right, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's damn near forty. But I've never seen a

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<v Speaker 1>player take on more mental emotional responsibility. I know there

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<v Speaker 1>was that clip of him a few years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they were playing against Boston, Like what happened there

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<v Speaker 1>in that third quarter when they went on the run

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<v Speaker 1>and then he just dialed He's like, well, then this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>Then this happened, then this happened, and then they did

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<v Speaker 1>this blah blah blah, and it was like everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>like this dude just reiterated back are are just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went back and gave us the last like eight

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<v Speaker 1>plays of the third quarter that was an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half ago. What happened, Um, We ran him the

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<v Speaker 1>first possession, We ran him down all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>two on the shot clock. Marcus Morris miss a jump shot,

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<v Speaker 1>followed it up, he got it, They got a dunk.

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<v Speaker 1>We came back down. We ran a step for Jordan Crawford,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Jordan Clarkson, and he came off and missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>They rebounded it. Um, and we came back on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end and we got to stop they took it

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline. Jayson Tatum took the ball out through

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<v Speaker 1>the Marcus Smart in the short corner. He made it three.

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<v Speaker 1>We come back down, miss another shot, and then Um

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<v Speaker 1>Tatum came down and went did a your old step

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<v Speaker 1>and made a right hand lay up. Time out there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. And it's like no, no, no, His basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>like Q was on some prodigy level. Right. We all

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<v Speaker 1>are a little arrogant, we all stick out our chest

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<v Speaker 1>about and so as a leader, you have full like

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<v Speaker 1>you give up the reins. You're like, bro, just tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what you need me to do. He's like, Richard,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to make sure you're doing this, this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, boom, got you because it's been clear

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<v Speaker 1>and concise. Um. He is a very like he's an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional leader. You know, he wears his emotions on the sleeve.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's not many people that I've ever seen give

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<v Speaker 1>the amount that he has given on a personal level,

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<v Speaker 1>on a physical level, emotional and men to level to

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<v Speaker 1>the game of basketball. And that's I didn't play with Kobe,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't play with m J. I can't compare those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never seen anything like it. Beautiful beautiful. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a gift to be able to watch him and

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<v Speaker 1>still watch him. Uh, player that you've spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time playing against Kevin Durant one of the greats

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<v Speaker 1>this season. I mean we get to sit next to

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<v Speaker 1>each other up close watching him just do masterful things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, what was he like to guard? I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 1>And even I did an interview many many by three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years ago. Uh, he walked Me and j

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<v Speaker 1>Kid were kind of sitting there and then I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Kate Katie's rookie year and he says he

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<v Speaker 1>remembers this. Uh he walked in and I'm six seven,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he walked into the court and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up and I go, oh, this is gonna be a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>right because he was like even then we I was twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I was like maybe when he

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<v Speaker 1>came into the league, never seen anything like it. His

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<v Speaker 1>skill set, it's just so unique. He's so special. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I like about superstars in the league, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all so different. They all embodied the same the same

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<v Speaker 1>like really terrible space where it's like their talent and

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<v Speaker 1>their gift is a blessing, but like the responsibility that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with that, and the attention and the pressure and

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<v Speaker 1>the media scrutiny and all that stuff that parts a curse.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kevin Durant, he has been just like Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 1>just every single year delivering his scoring. He's efficient, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way to guard him. And we talked We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it probably for the last like ten twelve years,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just feels like he's getting better his knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. He's still such a defensive force. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I just looking at the longevity of his prime and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that gets that gets kind of drowned out because

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at Lebron uh and you know, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>paired so many times. But Kevin Durant, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna see a player like him. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been really enjoying watching his growth and maturity. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love even through all the chaos, because that's what great

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<v Speaker 1>players can do. Great players can calm the chaos. Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one for Kevin Durant. Kail. Once they got their team back,

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<v Speaker 1>once they started getting healthy, the nets just went on

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<v Speaker 1>a run and everyone's like, why aren't they talking about

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, damn, this is what they should be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got all the shooting, they've got all the talent,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know, the coaching change, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people talk about Boston and Jayson Tatum and

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<v Speaker 1>and the the what they've done with their coaching change

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the season, and they want to

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<v Speaker 1>give them credit, and how, well, what what Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>and and Kyrie Irving what the Nets have done in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a coaching change, and then get going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's been special to watch. And so sometimes leaders

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<v Speaker 1>leaders aren't always vocal. They do it by their approach,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is definitely an approach leader that you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to respect. Yeah, and and you mentioned it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild to think he's coming off that Achilles tear

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<v Speaker 1>from UM and at age thirty fifteenth year, the not

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<v Speaker 1>only the numbers he's putting up this season, but the

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<v Speaker 1>efficiency of which he's doing it. To the Nets at

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve game win streak just snapped in their loss

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<v Speaker 1>to Chicago. But when you I mean you played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets, you spent how many seven years with the

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey Nets, something along those lines. In the draft, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but to think about potentially this group, and you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if the pieces are healthy and together, they have the

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<v Speaker 1>potential to make a run to the finals. Um, what

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<v Speaker 1>would that do for Kevin Durant in in just that group,

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<v Speaker 1>this group, considering the way things began this season, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even you know, you'd probably go back a

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<v Speaker 1>few years, you know, a few years this this stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of nets basketball. So what would it mean for them?

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<v Speaker 1>For this stretched at him and Kyrie have embarked on

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, going to Brooklyn starting, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>this momentum of trying to win a championship. Look, you're

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing's like your first championship, nothing's like your first.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will go and say that whatever championship Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant wins, if he is the finals MVP, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that would be the most important one of

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<v Speaker 1>his career in my humble opinion. And it's not to

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<v Speaker 1>demean the other two, but Steph won three championships and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one that they won this year is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that everyone points to. And even Steph was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what will they say now? Right? What are they gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say now? Because He's like, oh, well, you had Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant and oh, you know, you guys won that one early.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that he's persevered, he is stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>it and won that championship. I think for Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to the Lebron in Cleveland. Like he went

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami and everyone's like, yeah, you guys won some

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<v Speaker 1>championships in Miami, but when he won that one in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, okay, right, you know what, we got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else to say. I think if Kevin Durant is

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<v Speaker 1>able to win a championship in Brooklyn or in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few years, I think that's the one you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>point to. You're gonna be like, Okay, that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little bit different that we can like

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<v Speaker 1>compare to other greats that you grinded, you went through

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<v Speaker 1>all the things, and you were able to win a

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<v Speaker 1>championship probably the most difficult way. And we already know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a top ten player, top twelve player, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want all time, but you know that next championship would

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<v Speaker 1>be the one that would I think boost him up

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<v Speaker 1>the most. We're taking a quick break. Coming up, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about the most recent recent finals. MVP Richard

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<v Speaker 1>Richards got us Roland talking about Steph Let's welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to NBA paulse Saracustack joined by NBA Champion. I said

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier, TikTok sensation. I feel like that's about that's

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<v Speaker 1>about to be your calling card. I'm not on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>but Richard Jefferson, Oh, Steph Curry, Yes, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about stuff because game changer, fascinating career, uh right

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<v Speaker 1>now in his fourteenth year. And I almost I almost

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<v Speaker 1>slightly forgot you were. I was thinking about asking you

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<v Speaker 1>playing against him. Obviously you in the Cleveland Cavaliers, your

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<v Speaker 1>teammates Lebron James, you know, a couple of Kyrie Irving,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of those guys helping along with that in

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<v Speaker 1>but you were a teammate of steps and what his

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<v Speaker 1>like third and fourth year in the league or Golden State,

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<v Speaker 1>the year he first broke the three point record, the

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<v Speaker 1>year he broke the single season record. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>year with them. That was the year went to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the second round. But that's when Mark Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>said they were the greatest shooting backcourt of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>And literally because the world hadn't really seen in everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, you know, but there's and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like anybody that was on that that that team, the

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors team, like I sat back with at that year

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<v Speaker 1>at time, I was like year twelve, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen two shooters do what these two can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like and again it continued to evolve because I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>My first year was Clay's rookie year, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>next year they brought in Harrison Barnes, Draymond camp Bay's more.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could see them building, and Steph signed his

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<v Speaker 1>extension and he broke that three point record, and Steph

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing, like like everything that you guys see, like

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<v Speaker 1>Steph is one of those just like too nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, too nice to be true. Now people forget

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<v Speaker 1>about his dark competitive side because he definitely has one.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all the greats that I've ever seen, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a darkness about their competitiveness because it's it just drives

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<v Speaker 1>him and motivates them. But what he's able to do

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<v Speaker 1>on a night in, night out, basis even his efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>from deep and range. Here's Curry for the record. Step

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<v Speaker 1>the old time. We're so blessed to see so many

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<v Speaker 1>players doing things that we have never seen before, and

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<v Speaker 1>Staff falls in that category completely. You watched him early

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, but in particular this season in last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Um what surprised you most about the level that he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to reach and obviously helping that Golden State

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<v Speaker 1>team get back to another championship. Most is just pouring out.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be his fourth, but it means so much

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<v Speaker 1>and that'll do it. It's over the Golden State, Oria's

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<v Speaker 1>return to a familiar place. They're on top of the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA world. The fourth title of eight years is still

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<v Speaker 1>very much alive. Well, I think the hardest thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do is retool your game and your ability based off

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<v Speaker 1>of what your team needs. And great players can do that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we talked about Lebron James winning a championship

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland, in Miami, in l A. Well, his teammates

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<v Speaker 1>were very different. There was was a construct there, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're the teammates were for so for step to win

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<v Speaker 1>a championship in fifteen sixteen with a very unique group

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<v Speaker 1>of guys who were him and Clay and the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they go to like a super team with Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant and and now it's like Clay and him are

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<v Speaker 1>in their peak and prime. Now they have some time

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<v Speaker 1>to break away and their team is not very good,

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<v Speaker 1>so they retool the team again. Clay is probably eighty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of himself. They help, He helps develop Jordan's pool

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<v Speaker 1>and the work and so to see the evolution that

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<v Speaker 1>step is able to do. Uh, it's just it's so special.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you say, like you put step on a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you give him the right pieces, you can win a championship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what last year told me is that you can

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<v Speaker 1>always build around step If Steph is at his peak

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<v Speaker 1>and he still is. You mentioned peak, Lebron, Kevin Durant, Steph.

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<v Speaker 1>You could pick one at their ultimate peak. Who are picking?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this this is no disrespect, but it's Lebron James

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<v Speaker 1>just because of his size, his passing ability, right, his

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<v Speaker 1>passing ability is key because he gives you twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll give you ten assists, So that means like

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be responsible for you know, of the

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<v Speaker 1>scoring that's going to go on um if not more.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that that's not to to take away

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<v Speaker 1>from any of them. But I don't think we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen a player and like be able to do all

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<v Speaker 1>the things at the level that he's been able to do. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'd have to ride with him with Lebro

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Jefferson, Thank you for your time. Join us again

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