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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Tuesday, A lot on

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Speaker 1: the agenda, Herd higher our key today. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams smorshed right in the middle of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What do we do with the Kansas City Chiefs? So

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Speaker 1: they had top ten team? What do we do with Seattle?

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd in Chicago, wherever you may be, however

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Speaker 1: your day. So okay, okay, you can say it was

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Speaker 1: just the Raiders. I understand that, but it should be

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Speaker 1: noted the Quinn Williams down. They got that linebacker back

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Speaker 1: that that second round pick is healthy. So Quinn Williams

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Speaker 1: last night season high in sacks, one and a half,

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Speaker 1: career high end quarterback hits. Another Escape from New York

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Speaker 1: success story. Two things are absolutely true. Every player that

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Speaker 1: leaves the toxic New York Jets gets better instantly, and

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Speaker 1: Dallas is probably not as far off as everybody thinks.

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Speaker 1: Dallas has a top ten to twelve quarterback, run games,

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Speaker 1: good interior d line, Kenny Clark, quinnin Williams, the weapons

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Speaker 1: on the perimeter they stole George Pickens. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of playoff boxes. Now, the offensive line is young, they're

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Speaker 1: inconsistent on pass protection, but the Cowboys are after the

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Speaker 1: Packers and Seahawks, the youngest offense in the league, so

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Speaker 1: they are an ascending offense. And remember I've been on this.

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Speaker 1: They don't need a quarterback. Seven teams in the league

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Speaker 1: are desperate for it. So those two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback is going to be overdrafted like it is every year,

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Speaker 1: and this year Dallas is going to be able to

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Speaker 1: manipulate that first round, those two picks. So Quinn Williams,

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Speaker 1: now you want he was an All Pro with Robert Sala.

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Speaker 1: That's what you saw last night. That was the Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 1: That was an all Pro. Expect that going forward. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Kenny Clark interior alignment, so not all, not

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Speaker 1: all struggling teams are equal. Dallas is young, they're ascending.

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Speaker 1: They got a top ten to twelve quarterback. The Jets don't,

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Speaker 1: the Browns don't, the Raiders don't, the Saints don't, the

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Speaker 1: Titans don't. Dallas has the same number of wins as

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, and I would take Dallas ten out

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Speaker 1: ten out of ten times over Miami. So we can

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Speaker 1: all clown on Jerry Jones, and I, you know, is

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Speaker 1: worst GM in the league. But I would say this,

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Speaker 1: to get better in pass pro. But they're all young.

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Speaker 1: The offense is young, and the two defensive issues they

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Speaker 1: elite pass rusher in the draft. But last night, we

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Speaker 1: a good player. And they got back Demarvian over shown

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Speaker 1: the linebacker they got him back. Well, he's an athlete.

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Speaker 1: So you started seeing some of those young guys behind

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and I know it's the Raiders. I get it,

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Speaker 1: their athleticism last night. Quinn Williams a career high in

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Speaker 1: Escape from New York. So we can all say we

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Speaker 1: On defense, Jerry Jones said after they went over the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: You could say the mpag of the actually the players,

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Speaker 2: Jumping up and down here.

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Speaker 1: Again, not all bad teams are equal. The Raiders don't

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Speaker 1: offense right, A sending, young, old line that run blocks

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Speaker 1: That's fine, Okay, look at all the bad teams. I'd

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Speaker 1: So you get to the point of this. I always

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Speaker 1: this is funny in the NFL season, fans Loowis do this.

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Speaker 1: I haven't beaten anybody. Well, who's great? I mean Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: At some point do you win games or not? So

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Speaker 1: the big question with the Bears is the Bears are

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Speaker 1: they're going to remain in first place. And here's why.

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Speaker 1: What the next five games the Bears play all have

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Speaker 1: are they all have in common? Every one of those teams,

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Speaker 1: not the Bears. Every one of those teams is struggling

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Speaker 1: to find their offensive identity. Chicago I didn't have that problem.

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Speaker 1: Chicago's inconsistent. But Chicago runs the ball a lot and

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Speaker 1: the NFL in big plays. Yeah, the Bears may be inconsistent,

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Speaker 1: They are gonna run the ball a lot, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna run it well, So that's an identity. The Bears,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a little like a Quentin Tarantino movie.

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Speaker 1: Strong plot, excellent character development, seems a little out of order.

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Speaker 1: So it all sort of wraps in together and you'll

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Speaker 1: you do not have to be perfect to get to

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles got to a Super Bowl last year.

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Speaker 1: They were the fourth worst passing team in a passing league,

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Speaker 1: but the Eagles knew what they were. That's why this

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Speaker 1: Philly doesn't quite know what they are. Plus they have

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Speaker 1: wide receiver drama. Last year they had a little wide

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing about the Bears. You start looking

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Speaker 1: at all these games they play. Packers don't know what

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Speaker 1: they are. They're a passing team. The coach doesn't know it. Philadelphia, No,

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Speaker 1: Lane Johnson doesn't quite know what they are. Pittsburgh now

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Speaker 1: I think Chicago's fine. Again, every game, every scene may

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Speaker 1: movie's over, when the game's over, you look up and

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Speaker 1: Still people out there, Matt Hasselback not quite sure about

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Speaker 4: Caleb is a young player learning on the fly, and

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Speaker 4: as he's learning, they're winning. He's morphing into Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 5: Is he there? No?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is.

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Speaker 4: He's really not. But they seem to find ways to win.

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Speaker 4: That's what happens with DNA culture center type coaches. You

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Speaker 4: set a standard and then an expectation for the details

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Speaker 4: and the discipline that are going to happen in your

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Speaker 4: organization every single day. Do I think this is their

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Speaker 4: year without after I say all that, No, they haven't

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Speaker 4: really beat anybody, but the schedules getting tougher here, we'll

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Speaker 4: find out who they really are.

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Speaker 1: Well, we know who Caleb Williams is. Today is his

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth birthday. Happy birthday to Caleb, Happy birthday to

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Speaker 1: first place. Happy birthday to facing five straight games teams

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Speaker 1: with no offensive identity. I like Chicago, not even gonna

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Speaker 1: say I'm a good luck charm. I didn't have anything

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Speaker 1: it's coming together.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's nice to be in a city. It's

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Speaker 1: nice to be in a city with winners. That's all

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, for sure, definitely. You know, tomorrow's DeAndre Swift's birthday.

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Speaker 5: Let's make sure we get him a shout out. I'm

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Speaker 5: just kidding, boy, you love you some bears. Huh Okay,

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Speaker 5: what's what's a point differential?

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen the standings this morning.

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Speaker 1: I don't get caught up into those numbers. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: kind of data is irrelevance. I see the seven and

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Speaker 1: the first place. Those are the two numbers I see.

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Speaker 1: Who's the best, Who's the word? Here's the fifteen best quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He's near the top of the league in a lot

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Speaker 5: Right, Colin. From one middling quarterback to a great one.

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Speaker 5: That's Jalen Hurts. There's some wacky stuff is coming out

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Speaker 10: To address that. It's kind of crazy, kind of crazy

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Speaker 1: Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. It didn't come out

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just started to do some digging

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Speaker 5: He's a long time battle axe in Philadelphia, Colin.

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Speaker 2: Let's just be real.

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Speaker 1: He's not making it up. Somebody in I noways.

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Speaker 5: He's this isn't at Let's see what a Let's wait

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Speaker 5: I just find it very hard to believe that people

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Speaker 2: He's the problem.

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Speaker 1: What I would have a hard time people watching this

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Speaker 5: How many offensive coordinators has he had in Philly?

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's move on to a story maybe you

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Speaker 2: We still don't know what's going on. That's weird. MRI

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Speaker 5: Long way to go. Mason Rudolph would be the starter here.

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Speaker 5: How's this one from Adam Schefter? The Steelers tightened the

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Speaker 1: Well you could. You could see the strain on his

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Speaker 5: I'm assuming that's no Rogers. Right, You've got a broken

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can play for me?

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Speaker 5: Let's go back to a good quarterback, and that's Brock Perdy.

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Speaker 5: the right spot to make a playoff run. Here he is, No,

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Speaker 5: we don't have to sound sorry. Bottom line is very

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Speaker 5: excited to have rock perty back. He thinks they can

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Speaker 5: make a playoff run. How confident are you?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the Rams are better, and I think

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Speaker 1: Seattle's better, but I think I think it's a really

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Speaker 1: good division, So I think it's close. You know, they

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Speaker 1: had a pretty easy schedule to start this, but unfortunately

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Speaker 1: they fell apart. So I think they'll make a run.

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Speaker 1: I think their coaching staff's been unbelievable. I think they're

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Speaker 1: a top ten team. I have him in the hurd hierarchy.

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Speaker 1: I think their staff's been unbelievable. And I, uh, well,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see it's around there. They're close. Jmack with the.

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Speaker 2: News, Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping that

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Speaker 2: the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So a very interesting story. Very rarely does a college

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Speaker 1: football coach crush at a school and the school says,

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Speaker 1: make up your mind what you're doing. That's what Old

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Speaker 1: Miss is doing with Lane Kiffin. I think Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 1: should go to the pros. I think he's tapped out

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Speaker 1: at Old Miss. I don't think he's gonna win a

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Speaker 1: nanny there, but I think he's gonna win a bunch

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Speaker 1: of games if he stays there. And so Lsu flies

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Speaker 1: a plane in, flies his family down to Baton Rouge

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Speaker 1: to check it out. So, Lane Kiffin, they've given him

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Speaker 1: a deadline at Old Miss, the Mississippi State game the

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Speaker 1: minute it ends, tell us what you're doing. So I've

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Speaker 1: always had a theory in life, don't try to get

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Speaker 1: happier than happy. And I think Lane's happy. When did

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen implode in life? Al Davis NFL dysfunction, The

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Speaker 1: Raiders were dysfunctional and massive pressure at USC When did

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Speaker 1: he crush Florida Atlantic? No pressure, Oh Miss, not that

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Speaker 1: much pressure. And the offensive coordinator under Nick Saban, where

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Speaker 1: you know Nick's taking the arrows. So Lane, it's a

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Speaker 1: little like Icarus. Be careful how close you fly to

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Speaker 1: the sun. Don't try to get happier than happy. I

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Speaker 1: think the LSU job is crazy town. The governor's talking

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Speaker 1: about it. They're legally going to try to keep money

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Speaker 1: from Brian Kelly. Bad luck LSU. By the way, Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelly won ten games year one, ten games year two,

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Speaker 1: and entered year three hottest seat in college football. That's

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Speaker 1: all you need to know. And now the govern of

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Speaker 1: the States involved in the Brian Kelly mess. So to

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Speaker 1: me stay at ole Miss or go to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But because I think Lane's personality feels like if he

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Speaker 1: gets into one of these massively pressurized, high expectation situations,

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Speaker 1: he can be a little snarky. He can be on

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Speaker 1: social media a little too much. And I'm ad a

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Speaker 1: source I called yesterday on ole Miss football apparently they've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of nil money. They've got to they've

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Speaker 1: got a nil money. It's it's not it's not a

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Speaker 1: money issue at Old Miss. So and the other thing

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Speaker 1: is at ole Miss, the entire fan base, the boosters

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Speaker 1: and the university, they trust the process and they trust Lane.

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Speaker 1: LSU doesn't trust any coach ince Saban. They don't trust

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Speaker 1: any of them. They didn't trust Less Mile, that didn't

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Speaker 1: light Less Miles and Orgeron Brian Kelly. It's a very

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Speaker 1: cynical football operation where and it's kind of delusional. I mean,

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Speaker 1: George is a better job. Bama's a better job. I

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Speaker 1: would say Texas does a better job. And it's LSU's

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Speaker 1: you know, got a lot of players, but it's up

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Speaker 1: there with like Oklahoma. It's a it's a really really

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Speaker 1: good job. But sometimes the donors and the boosters and

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Speaker 1: the administration and now the governor, I guess it's a

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Speaker 1: little uncomfortable. I mean this, this is the governor of

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Speaker 1: the state of Louisiana actually went after the administration of LSU.

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Speaker 11: Right now, we got a fifty three million dollar liability.

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Speaker 11: We are not doing that again.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I believe.

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Speaker 11: I believe that we're gonna find a great coach and

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Speaker 11: maybe we let President Trump pick it.

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Speaker 12: He loves winners.

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Speaker 11: You know, I'm not gonna be picking the next coach.

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Speaker 11: But I can promise you we're gonna pick a coach

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Speaker 11: and we're gonna make sure that that coach is successful,

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Speaker 11: and we're gonna make sure that he's compensated properly, and

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Speaker 11: We're gonna put metrics on it because I'm tired of

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Speaker 11: rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers

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Speaker 11: on the foot, you know.

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Speaker 1: To foot the bill. No, Brian Kelly won ten games

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Speaker 1: and ten games and he was on the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: He didn't fail. You had expectations in the SEC that

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Speaker 1: has added Oklahoma in Texas. That's unrealistic. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at the coaching in the SEC. Sark and Brett Venables

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Speaker 1: and Kirby Smart and Lane Kiffen and Kaylin de Boor,

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Speaker 1: and I got news for you. Nobody's winning twelve games

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Speaker 1: in that conference much anymore. And now Vandy's good. So

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Speaker 1: it's not that Brian Kelly failed. Brian Kelly was a

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Speaker 1: weird fit. Brian Kelly didn't grind in recruiting. He wanted

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Speaker 1: a failure ten wins, ten wins and or a third

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Speaker 1: year you're on the hot seat. That's delusion. That's not

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Speaker 1: bad coaching. So if I was Lane Kiffin, I would

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Speaker 1: either stay at old US or go pro and reportedly

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Speaker 1: Ole miss The money's not the issue. So we have

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Speaker 1: heard hierarchy at the top of the hour plus Nick Ry.

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Speaker 1: I've never had Nick right on when the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs weren't good. So this will be interesting today because

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Speaker 1: right now they're five and five. I've been holding on

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Speaker 1: to this Kansas City Chiefs operation. I still think they

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Speaker 1: have a lot of smart people. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: they're good. And some of that, for the record is

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Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes. We'll address that next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter non a em Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Arizona battles Solo Ball and number three Yukon. Then eleven

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Speaker 5: thranked Alabama takes on number eight Illinois. It all tips

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Speaker 5: off tomorrow on F's one.

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Speaker 1: So you know, once the NFL weekend is done, everybody's

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Speaker 1: got their narratives and their big storylines, and one of

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Speaker 1: them is, you know, Sam Donald. There he goes again.

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Speaker 1: So when Sam Darnold came out and I took a

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Speaker 1: lot of crap for this, I said, he's about eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of Andrew Luck. That's his comp is that Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck's more naturally talented, has a better quicker release, But

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Speaker 1: that's Andrew Luck. That both played in the Pac twelve,

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Speaker 1: both playmakers, both can be reckless. Do you all remember

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Speaker 1: how many picks that Andrew Luck threw in six years?

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Speaker 1: Five double digit years. Andrew Luck averaged an interception per

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Speaker 1: game in his career. Sam Darnald has averaged one pick

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Speaker 1: a game in his career. And Andrew Luck never played

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. He got Bruce Arians in a weak division.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald got Belichick. Right, So, if you look at

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Speaker 1: their numbers for our radio audience, Andrew Luck and Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald Donald's more accurate ted interception, very close passer rating

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Speaker 1: slide edge. Luck both had nine games in their career

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Speaker 1: with three or more interceptions, and both had at least

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Speaker 1: five seasons with ten plus interceptions. And again, Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: got Bruce Arians. That's a pretty good first gig, right,

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Speaker 1: Sam didn't. In fact, if you take the Jets out

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Speaker 1: and just count Carolina, Minnesota and Seattle, Sam looks like

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Speaker 1: an eight quarterback. So, for the record, what was the

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Speaker 1: worst game Andrew Luck ever had four interceptions against Belichick

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs? What are the two worst games Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold's ever had both against the Rams one and one

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Speaker 1: last year in Minnesota versus the Rams in the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: this weekend. So they've got his number, and they've also

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Speaker 1: got a great young defense. But just never forget this.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck nine career games with three or more picks,

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Speaker 1: that's Donald. So when't I see it, Well, Sam's got

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Speaker 1: a ceiling? Did Andrew Luck have a ceiling? I thought

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was gonna win Super Bowls?

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 1: I do think Andrew is more talented than Sam, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's his comp I told executives I talked

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Speaker 1: before the draft. I loved him. Not everybody loved him.

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Speaker 1: They said he's too reckless, and I said, well, isn't

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck reckless? Andrew Luk's just a bit more talented.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at the numbers and again, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck didn't have to go to the Jets. You watched

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams last night. He's back to being a great player.

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Speaker 1: He's back to being dominant. Here's the Seahawks coach Mike

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Speaker 1: McDonald on Donald's mistakes.

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Speaker 13: I think the majority of him came laden downs where

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Speaker 13: we just need to get to the next play. And

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Speaker 13: Sam's played in time and in rhythm a lot this year,

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Speaker 13: and he's made a lot of plays for us doing that.

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Speaker 13: And he's also made a lot of plays off schedule,

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Speaker 13: So again, you don't want to take the playmaker out

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Speaker 13: of out of them. And but you also need to understand,

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Speaker 13: you know, when we when we need, when we need

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Speaker 13: to be able to get the next play versus you know,

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Speaker 13: putting the ball in jeopardy down the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams, Bill Belichick and the Rams have given

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold a lot of trouble. Outside of that, he's

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Speaker 1: pretty good, Colin, But you love Donald Well. I also

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Speaker 1: loved Andrew Luck because I like quarterbacks who take risks

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Speaker 1: like this. This past weekend, Josh Allen has six touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: a couple of picks. I can live with that. I'm

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Speaker 1: not somebody. I'm not a passer rating guy. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: great passer rating. So what give I want wins and

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Speaker 1: playoff wins. I don't care about the passer rating thing.

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Speaker 1: I completion percentage matters. But right now, if you look

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Speaker 1: at bow Nick's and Caleb Williams and their completion percentage,

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Speaker 1: they're winning games. They're good in the fourth. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to keep track of the second quarter much. You know,

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Speaker 1: Seattle dominated the second and third quarters. Rams dominated the first,

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Speaker 1: didn't make any mistakes in the last that's why they

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Speaker 1: win the game. So the other story is, let's be

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Speaker 1: totally frank about the Chiefs. And this is a weird

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Speaker 1: thing to say, but part of Kansas City's problem is

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Speaker 1: Patrick Malmes. In the last two seasons, he has not

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Speaker 1: been in Josh Allen's galaxy. Josh has been more accurate,

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Speaker 1: Josh gets to the end zone more, Josh uses his

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Speaker 1: legs to a greater degree, and he's just a better

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Speaker 1: runner right now. Mahomes is not Josh Allen last two years,

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Speaker 1: and Patrick's become kind of a bad road quarterback this year.

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Speaker 1: This year he's four and one at home. On the road,

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Speaker 1: he barely completes sixty percent of his throws. His passer

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Speaker 1: rating in the low eighties, eighty one. So you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the weapons that he needs. Josh Allen does.

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Speaker 1: He's got better weapons than the twenty twenty two season

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Speaker 1: in which he was MVP. Go look up their receiving

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Speaker 1: corps that year. So I do think part of the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs underachievement this year is on Mahomes. He's been less consistent,

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Speaker 1: less accurate. Some of it's the right tackle position, but

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Speaker 1: Bo Knicks is five and oh this year when trailing

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Speaker 1: in the fourth. Mahomes is zero to five this year

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Speaker 1: trailing in the fourth. That can't be all just zany coincidence.

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks has been the better late game quarterback. So I,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, Kansas City needs a reboot. They have

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Speaker 1: to rip the band aid off with Travis Kelcey. You

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Speaker 1: can't have your star weapon be good five times a year.

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Speaker 1: It's time to rip the band aid off. Final year,

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Speaker 1: he'll be good if they get to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: then one more year a guaranteed salary with Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's time to rip that band aid off

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Speaker 1: after next season. So I think Kansas City has to

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Speaker 1: reinvent itself. And I went and looked this morning some

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Speaker 1: of the and I've said this for years. When Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban was crushing in the SEC, the good schools like Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: Georgia and LSU did not have a good coach. You

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Speaker 1: go look at when Mahomes and Andy Reid. But Mahomes

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Speaker 1: was crushing in this division. Denver had Nat Hackett and

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio as a head coach. The Chargers had Brandon

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Speaker 1: Staley and Anthony Lynn, and the Raiders had Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: and Antonio Pierce. Yeah, that whole Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: Thing that feels different, it lands different. So one of

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Speaker 1: the themes on this show has been if you go

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Speaker 1: look at Lebron James dominating in the East. Yes, Lebron

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Speaker 1: was great, the East was terrible. Philadelphia underachieved. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: weren't any good. I mean, Boston was good briefly, then

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Speaker 1: you know, disbanded. The roster Lebron dominated. Lebron doesn't dominate

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Speaker 1: in the West because the West has better coaches, better rosters,

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Speaker 1: better size, better guards, better gms, better stars. Now Lebron's

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Speaker 1: out of his prime, but even in his prime, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would have dominated the West. He dominates

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Speaker 1: the East. Nick Saban dominant. So usually to create a dynasty,

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Speaker 1: everybody else has to underachieve a little bit, or there

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Speaker 1: has to be dysfunctioned. Go look at Brady when they

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Speaker 1: move Peyton, Manning and the Colts out of his division.

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Speaker 1: Early Bills were dysfunctional, Miami Jets were mostly dysfunctional, but

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan Actually they've built trouble for a couple of

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Speaker 1: years with kind of BC level quarterback play. So I

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Speaker 1: think it's been an up and down season. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Mahomes has been great the last two years. His

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Speaker 1: accuracy dips home and away is a different quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: here's Mahomes on it.

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Speaker 12: I think we're really talented. We had a lot of

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Speaker 12: great players. It's just about being more consistent. And I

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Speaker 12: think it starts with me as I mean, there's times

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Speaker 12: where I'm firing in the I'm throwing the ball and

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Speaker 12: we're moving the ball down the field at ease. But

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Speaker 12: at the same time, there's times where we go in

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Speaker 12: spurts where I miss, like throw like I did, or

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Speaker 12: a protection call or whatever that is. And so it's

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Speaker 12: about being more consistent. That's what this league is, and

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Speaker 12: we haven't been consistent enough to win football games. But

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Speaker 12: it starts to meet with me.

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Speaker 1: We have the NFL schedule coming up this week. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually surprised the Chiefs are a three point favorite against

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Speaker 1: the Colts. The Colts off a bye, are healthy, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City is coming off a very physical, intense rivalry game,

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Speaker 1: the Colts getting a field goal at Kansas City. I

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Speaker 1: like Indianapolis, and I again off a by Kansas City

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Speaker 1: struggled to move the ball. Now the Colts defense is

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Speaker 1: not denvers. I like the over in this game. I

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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some points. But some of this

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Speaker 1: is just Mahomes hasn't been great. You know, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's distracted. I'm not. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson doesn't quite have the juice that he had

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Speaker 1: like a year ago. Jamack talked about that yesterday. Lamar

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite feel as elusive. And Mahomes is really good,

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Speaker 1: but he has He's got some real up and downs.

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Speaker 1: You don't quite feel the lightning and the juice he

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Speaker 1: had like three years ago. I don't personally doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: he's not great and won won another Super Bowl or three.

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Speaker 1: I look at the schedule this weekend. I always look

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Speaker 1: for a line that surprises me. I think India and

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is a lot of scoring, There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of ugly. It's a weird weekend. You could end up

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Speaker 1: having really good like Tampa Rams could end up being

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Speaker 1: a great game of Philadelphia at Dallas. I think Dallas

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Speaker 1: is going to keep it close. Now they're healthy defensively

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Speaker 1: and no Lane Johnson. It is not a good looking

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Speaker 1: schedule from when you pull back, but will end up

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Speaker 1: having five or six like Seattle at Tennessee. One of

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Speaker 1: those games, Giants at Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay one of

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Speaker 1: them is going to be close in the early window.

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Speaker 5: Careful with Tampa the last two weeks, their defense is

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Speaker 5: just hemorrhaging big plays galore. I mean, Patriots had multiple

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Speaker 5: touchdowns of over thirty yards Bill's last week and the

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Speaker 5: Rams what do they call him? Big playoffense with McVeigh.

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Speaker 5: Interesting you mentioned Seattle going to Tennessee. Seattle's a thirteen

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Speaker 5: point that's.

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Speaker 1: A college line, college line?

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Speaker 2: Would would you lay it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I already made my picks this morning. I sent him

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Speaker 1: into the guys. Wait, you're on Tennessee. I didn't. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't like those there, buddy, No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think green Bay at home bounces back. I think

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Speaker 1: there's enough film on JJ McCarthy to know what he

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Speaker 1: can't do and what he can and what he can

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Speaker 1: is not much. So I think green Bay bounces back,

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Speaker 1: and I like green Bay as a six and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorite. But there's to me, there's I don't

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Speaker 1: want to touch the Baltimore Jets line the Seahawk Tennessee line.

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Speaker 1: There the numbers are wacky.

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Speaker 5: I will just point out next week is Thanksgiving week.

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Speaker 5: There are three games on things Giving. One of them

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Speaker 5: is Lions Packers, which could be for the division. I

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Speaker 5: know your Bears are their temporarily, so I like the

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Speaker 5: Lions against the Giants, big number, but you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 5: It's a look ahead spot for the Lions. You know,

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Speaker 5: next week's game is massive. And also the Chiefs play

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Both the Chiefs and Cowboys have

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Speaker 5: huge games this week, but you know the Thanksgiving game

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Speaker 5: gets the biggest audience member. People are planning their families.

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Speaker 5: What are they going to do? They're flying in and out.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of logistics. This week is a dangerous

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Speaker 5: week cold, I will say, be a little bit cautious

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Speaker 5: just because the holidays approaching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one of the better lines is San

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Speaker 1: Francisco only has to give up seven and now against

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Speaker 1: Carolina and San Francisco offensively, it's finally got the band

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Speaker 1: back together. Yeah, they got their guys. So I think

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Speaker 1: I think the Niners on Monday Nights one of the

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Speaker 1: better plays. I thought the cowboys. You like that last

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Speaker 1: night