1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Jack and Miles. UH, just checking in 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: to let you know what you're about to hear. Not 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: a standard episode of the show. These are our year 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: end URIM review and holiday themed episode. So if you're 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: new to the show. UH, you know, you can check 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: back in the catalog for what the normal episodes sound like. Uh. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: And you can listen to this for our thoughts on 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: the year. UH. And we're back the beginning of January 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: with all new episodes and we can't wait to talk 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: to you all of them. I hello the Internet, and 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: welcome to this very special holiday a dish. I don't 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: know that that doesn't work quite as well with an echo. Next. Uh, 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: this is the URIM Review person where we make fun 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: of times pick for a person of the year and 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: tell them all how they got that ship wrong. Do 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: our own overrated picks for person of the year and 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: our own underrated picks person of the year. I am Jack, 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: That is Miles, and we are joined, of course my 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: supers producer d J. Dan Oh, it's your boy and 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: super producer on a hosieer like weird cuts on my hands, 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: but I don't know what they're front. Damn it. Anna said, 22 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: he said, we're gonna talk about the hand cuts on 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: my I told you, I told you to accept the 24 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: word of Christ in your weird It really is weird. 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: But anyway, go ahead, go ahead, thank you. As you 26 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: were saying thank you, man, I got a lot of 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: inexplicable cuts on my hands. And that'll do it. Um. 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: As we're recording this, we are a few days removed 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: from Time magazine, UH selecting their person of the Year, 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: and it is Joe Biden Kamala Harris the ticket that. Yeah, 31 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: they're one person. They do this sometimes, like there was 32 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the year when they were so out of ideas that 33 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: they just put a mirror on the cover and said 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: you are the person of the year. Um. They they 35 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: are bad at their job. Picking Biden Harris UH feels 36 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: weird because, UM, I feel like they were elected at 37 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: least partially despite who they were, or because there was 38 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: like an absence of things that people could object to 39 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: their Um, they were the reaction to a personality that 40 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: dominated the media. UM. And I don't think we look 41 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: back on this year as the year of Biden and Harris, 42 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Like I could see maybe Faucci, UH, if you were 43 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: going incredible mainstream. Um, I don't know, like it would 44 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: have felt like at least a more interesting pick if 45 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: they had, uh picked I don't know the activists, the 46 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: people who died of COVID. Okay, what's wrong with can 47 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: you Joe Biden? Pop with Joe Bien? I mean, wow, 48 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: what a what a guy? So we are going to 49 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: give our own people are picks for persons of the year. 50 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Um is the idea. Um, And I'm gonna go first, guys, 51 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has seen this guy. And also we'll talk 52 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: about other persons of the year, overrated persons of the year. 53 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: But I can I can go with my pick. Uh 54 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: So just Sinda Arderne, who is the PM in New Zealand. Um, 55 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: New Zealand. Uh perfect, perfect, nailed it perfect, all right? 56 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: So managed to absolutely nail the COVID response, just kicking 57 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the ass of many nations around the world with old 58 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: men in charge. She is a young woman. In fact, 59 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: I found out she is exactly a day older than me. 60 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: We were almost I know, I have a she has 61 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: a day head start, So I give that credit. Do 62 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: that like when you'd be all comparative in your career, 63 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: you know that person is actually six months older, so 64 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: like they kind of got to jump on that ship. 65 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: That is. Yeah, that's a big, big me when I 66 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: was in my twenties energy just like every movie that 67 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: was made and be like, hell's the guy who wrote that? 68 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: Um we had old yeah right, believe that guy's older 69 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: than lebron So I'm like, yeah, but you know he 70 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: had to jump on me like physiologically. Anyways, while the 71 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: rest of the world had old people arguing, and you know, 72 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: we specifically had old people failing the country, they had 73 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: someone who was young on top of her ship. Just 74 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: everything America should be turning towards an America uh promptly 75 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: turned its back on that and was like, well, because uh, 76 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: extra super establishment pick Hillary Clinton was unpopular, it must 77 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: mean we can't nominate a woman. Um, she's also just 78 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: a start contrast with America's like old man obsession because 79 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: she's collected daddy issues. Yeah exactly. She succeeded a creepy 80 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: old man who used to tug girls ponytails. I feel 81 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: like that's I don't know, So then whoever is the 82 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: president after Joe Biden will maybe be a justcinta exactly. 83 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, like straightforward observation about how they behabe 84 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: in public. Yeah, it's like a type of disordered old person. 85 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: We are addicted to having run our country, and our 86 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: country is just I don't know. It's also like the 87 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: I think she embodies the fact that this was the year, 88 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: like I think we all had a sense that America 89 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: was no longer like the the city on the hill 90 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: that other countries turned their eyes to. But this was 91 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: like probably the most stark and unavoidable for all Americans 92 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: to be like, oh yeah, we look to other countries 93 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: for hope and inspiration while our country is just completely 94 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: shitting the bed um. I think even like conservatives probably 95 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: couldn't avoid wishing they lived in New Zealand, and in fact, 96 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of billionaires like bought up property in New Zealand. 97 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Like they're running their government somewhat responsibly and you know, 98 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: are guided by things like science rather than of fits. 99 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: That's what's so funny, is like it's such a while, Yes, 100 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: like her leadership is fantastic. It's like it's just a 101 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: very simple thing that from our side of the ocean 102 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: we look at as being like what they prioritized human 103 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: life over the like profit margins of businesses. What how 104 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: how could they but the companies And it's just a 105 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: weird thing that you know, the like mainstream of American 106 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: cultures really can't get past that next thing of just 107 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: realizing the only thing getting in our way is the 108 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: greed of wealthy people. That's really the thing that's blocking 109 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: everything up. That's all it is. And these other places 110 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: were like, what can we be like that? It's because 111 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: they're being like a greedy ass. We're coming to take 112 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: a bite of that fucking money you made because that's 113 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: how we're gonna help everybody out, because oh you don't 114 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: have yacht money. Boo fucking who, because people don't have 115 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: like shelter or food. But and then I feel like 116 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: young women just in enroll like we're crushing it this 117 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: year in the US and culture around the world. But 118 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: I still think AOC continues to be the most exciting 119 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: political figure, uh, even though I feel like the dirtbag 120 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: left sort of underrates or dismisses her because it's too 121 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: mainstream to be cool. But I think she's kind of 122 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: become underrated on the left a little bit. And you know, 123 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: they dominated music with AOC. Yeah, all those singles this year, 124 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: all those singles she was dropping, uh wop was the 125 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: song of the year, indisputably and a sort of sexually 126 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: liberated from a women's perspective, like just mocking the idea 127 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: that somebody would be like Pearl Clutchy about about women's 128 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: sexuality and like not the like justint I had a baby, Inen, 129 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: but like that was one of the big questions coming 130 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: into her administration, was like kind a woman like give 131 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: birth while in office and like have a child? And 132 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: uh she in got re elected in a fucking landslide um, 133 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: but can a woman birth while in office her hairs 134 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: fall out? What is this? Kind of concerned him? Yeah, 135 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: so I don't know, And I think New Zealand was 136 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: just dominating the culture in sort of an underrated, uh 137 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: not super obvious way. I mean, I'm Montgomery when he 138 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: would come on, just stealing the show all the way 139 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: from it and I'm tired of it. And then she's 140 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: also Labor Party, and I believe that's the direction the 141 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: world is going. It's either fascism or you know, more 142 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: socialist collectivist identities and that you know, she seems to 143 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: be I don't know, ahead of ahead of that at 144 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: the head of that. Um, so yeah, just send up 145 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: my person of the year. Tell you, um, but stop 146 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: being so successful because you're you're making me look bad. 147 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: But it's twenty four hours. I got twenty four hours 148 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: to catch that. You got help, help back. This is 149 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 1: about you always. Um, just send up posters. Yeah exactly. 150 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 151 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: talk to you all about your picks for a person 152 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: of the year. All right, and we're back, And who 153 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: who wants to go next? Who's up, Miles your person 154 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: of the year? Dah Daniel? No, come, um one part. 155 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned this group of people earlier, but 156 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: it's activists and specifically activists encouraging down ballot elections and 157 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: paying attention to down ballot elections where especially you know, 158 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: this is local to l A, but we're seeing it 159 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: all over the country. People paying more attention to people 160 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: like senators, paying attention to council people paying attention to 161 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: you know, every office that helps control your direct life. 162 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: We have realized more and more that we are in 163 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: a lot more control of our world around us than 164 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: we give credit for. We often think. I think it's 165 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: the perception that the presidential election is the one and 166 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: that your one vote doesn't mean a whole lot in 167 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the sea of votes. But the fact of the matter 168 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: is controlling the world around you can end up being 169 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: a much more localized, much more important voice than you 170 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: think you have. And I think we saw that a lot. 171 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: Uh we saw it directly in our lives here in 172 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: l A. And we've seen it all over the country 173 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: with support for the senatorial race in Georgia. And I 174 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: just think that the activists and the people who are 175 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: pushing for people to just pay attention to politics really 176 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: had a banner year in making that happen. Yeah, we 177 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: definitely did. Yeah, thank you many and going local and 178 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: like actually interacting with your own community, which is a 179 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: foreign concept in America totally. You know, it's a it's 180 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: a good illusion that you know, when we emphasize federal 181 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: politics so much, it allows for all this other weird 182 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: ship to happen in state legislatures and all these other places, because, yeah, 183 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: the perceptions if you're just watching like national news, is 184 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: that it's what's happening nationally or at the federal level, 185 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: when it's like, wait, but the reason my sidewalks are 186 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: all funked up is because this same city councilperson runs 187 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: unopposed and nobody's just trying to funk with them because 188 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: they have a bunch of you know, developer donor money, 189 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, how am I going to stand to that? 190 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: But we're seeing people be like, you know what, let 191 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: me just funk around and see and now, yeah, there's 192 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: a people are realizing there's a tremendous amount of support 193 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: for these kinds of candidates. Mariah Parker, Yeah, Benga also, Yeah, 194 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: it's just nice to see things like Jerry May entered 195 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: parts of the city become memes. And what I mean 196 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: by that is like, we have to infect the culture 197 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: the way that we can, and just telling people to 198 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: vote isn't successful as much as saying like I laugh 199 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: at stuff like this until I see this person's dumbass 200 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: jerrymandered section of the city, and then people actually look 201 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: at it, they're like, oh, I'm taking this in in 202 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: my feed of information, where I'm usually taking like jokes 203 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes information, but this like is bullshit. Like I 204 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were really woken up to 205 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: the idea of districts and read districting in this year 206 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: as I wanta say that telling people to vote tired 207 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: telling people to rock the vote? Why fuck yeah, dude 208 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: rock Remember when Jack introduced mud honey at the Rock Vote? Uh? What? 209 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: And then what's your overrated person a year? DJ? Daniel? Oh, 210 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: My overrated person of the year is gatekeeping gamers, and 211 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: I would say gamers that gamers as a whole. I 212 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: think that as more people are taking to the world 213 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: of video games, we need to strip away all of 214 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: the walls that make something a gamer or not a gamer. 215 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: If you're playing a game on your phone, guess what 216 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: you're participating in the culture of video games. If you're 217 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: playing Animal Crossing New Horizons and us falling asleep. But 218 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you know what that's because I just think it's so 219 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: important friends, your game and fam and I think it's 220 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we open up, you know, 221 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: culture to everyone. The idea of gatekeeping is just trying 222 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: to hold people back from really appreciating something that they enjoy, 223 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: and seeing it in video games makes me sick. And 224 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: what's the thing that happened? What are what were gamers 225 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: doing to like the people who are just getting into 226 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: gaming this year, Like, what was that looking like? People 227 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: managing fucking news, Like what what was the sort of 228 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: discourse around because I mean, you know, we're talking about 229 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: how gaming has been embraced a lot more with people 230 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: being at their homes, Like what was the vibe of 231 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: the toxic game or community in terms of like this, 232 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: A very small, a very small example is people complaining 233 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: online that they can't get a switch because too many 234 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: people are into animal crossing. And I think the idea 235 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: that just because you're too slow to the punch to 236 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: get something is other people's fault because there's a very 237 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: popular video game that doesn't fit into whatever games you 238 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: want to play is stupid. I think it's it's it's 239 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: just ridiculous the fact that you know, yes things are 240 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: sold out, and yes things are hard to find right now, 241 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, supplier is supply and demand 242 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: is tough, especially when like we're still picking up the 243 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: domino pieces of every shipping supply being completely turned off 244 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: because of COVID. But like, let people enjoy what they're enjoying. 245 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Let people like let people just like take into these 246 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: worlds and lose themselves for for however long they want, 247 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: and just like enjoy the space. I but these these 248 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: switch nubes, man make me so mad. A switch hit 249 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: or day one? I feel it? Hey man, I feel it. 250 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: Um alright, super producer on a Hosnier. Uh you were. 251 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: It's all for a show to bring Daniel down one 252 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: microgression at a time. But I will say if you 253 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: ever call me a gamer, Dan, I will um, well, 254 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: how come you don't like that? Why are you taking 255 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: because I've never been like, come on, had a TV screen? 256 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Yes it is, I've been tortured my friend's gaming. Okay, 257 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm a pleasant This is a rom com waiting to have. 258 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm a pleasant switch player is what I call myself 259 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: a p SP, A pleasant switch player. I do not 260 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: scream at my game. I do not get heated at 261 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: my game. What if you got fucked? Were on some 262 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: turnip prices? That's not possible. Sound like a smart person 263 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: trying to act like they're not smart, like to impress 264 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: their dumb friends. Possibly I'm not friends. What do you 265 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: want me to say to that? No, I you know, 266 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to wrap my mind around 267 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: being a gamer because like, I don't I don't understand 268 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: games on like animal crossing is the most simple thing 269 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: to me. It's just like I go, I fish, I 270 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: sell the fish. I go I catch butterfly. And I'm 271 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: not trying to like simplize like I'm a simple person. 272 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: I have zero hand eye coordination. I cannot basketball on 273 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: the court. I want to. I want to kind of 274 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: I just want to readjust this a little bit because 275 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I think this is kind of part of what I'm 276 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: getting at. You know, like when I say you're doing this, 277 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: you're gamer, you're doing this whatever. Basically, it's kind of 278 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: like the when everybody's special, no one special, when we're 279 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: all gamers. Nobody's really gamers, were just playing video games. 280 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: It's just your internalized gamer misogyny and probably fuck you 281 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: as a game. What if I just game it so hot? No? No, 282 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: you like turn on your switching like fucking idiot. You're like, oh, 283 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: where's that coming from? I have no I just have 284 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: serious trauma listening and watching people screaming totally, and you're 285 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: like getting me. Like when I hear the tone of 286 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: a certain video game, I like, go in the closet's 287 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: when you hear that ps When you hear that PS 288 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: four be yeah, just like when the tone of Apex 289 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Legends Apex twins. I don't even know we love Apex. Yeah, yeah, 290 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: you're over in the person of the year on is 291 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Tom Nook? Yes, okay, let's get into that. Okay, back 292 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: by the way, I start this out by saying I'm 293 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: no gamer, but Tom Yes, let me just say Tom Nook. 294 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: And if you guys don't know who that is, he 295 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: is the owner of the island. You move on to 296 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: an an animal crossing video. Mother is a scamming piece 297 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: of ship. You move to this island. He is like, 298 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: you owe me five K What motherfucker you pretty invited 299 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: me to the island. Next thing, I know, you want 300 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: a bigger house that's two million. Like, I am in 301 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: debt up to my eyeballs. That's why I have to hustle. 302 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: That's why I have to buy and sell the turnips. 303 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: It's not because I'm just naturally very interested in kind 304 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: of stock market s things, okay, It's because I have 305 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: to survive in this game. I need all the furniture. 306 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: My kitchen isn't done yet, just shipped to buy. I 307 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: am shaking trees, hoping furniture. I am hoping stoves fall 308 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: out of trees because I am in the system fighting 309 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: to survive. I have two lives. I'm paying bills in 310 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: two different universe size. Okay, this is because of tom Nook. 311 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Is animal crossing just some like fucking analog for the 312 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: grind of capitalism the way you're just and then I'm 313 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: like and so y'all, so people are escaping into another 314 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: version of their shitty life. Yeah, but I can design 315 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: my cabin though. Yes, but you look cute, right. It's 316 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: all I've ever wanted was just to look cute. It's 317 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: like it has the rhythm of like life, right, it's 318 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: like you every day time. It's all in real time too. 319 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I can't just be like, you know, oh, I'll play 320 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: for six hours and blow through the entire game. You've 321 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: got to be coming back twenty four hour game cycle. 322 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: I buy something, I have to wait for the package 323 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: to come in the mail. I just do want to 324 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: point out, um, and while you were saying about how 325 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Zach will be yelling, you did start off talking about 326 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: how you played a video game and said this motherfucker. 327 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: Just I just want to put that has that has 328 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: big gamer energy too, So welcome to the family. But 329 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: that's me under any scammer. I don't also, I don't 330 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: vocalize this under I'm not yelling. I don't say anything 331 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: when I put in my mind, I go, oh, it's 332 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: not your fault, right, it's not your fault. You're not 333 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: not I just go It's It's like when my therapist 334 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: has to remind me I'm not my father. I'm also 335 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm also not someone who asks to speak to the manager. 336 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I just don't have that energy. So I'm not here 337 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: yelling at my screen like how dare I've spent two 338 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: million to put it at akin? You know, like I 339 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: don't do that, just like like we do, just stay 340 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: quiet and let that turn into resentment. Tom Nooks sounds 341 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: like a monster, but he also sounds like he would 342 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: be a good Person of the Year because it's like 343 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: such a central men. Yeah, he's entered everyone's mind. He 344 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: is like the capitalist ghoul that we're all dealing with, 345 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and we he speaks in a way that makes it 346 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: your idea, your idea, you basement. Yeah, and he doesn't 347 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: even speak real words. It's just that was my idea. 348 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: I understood that perfectly, just said. I mean, you know, 349 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: my gibberish is fluid, And the next thing I know, 350 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: I have an attic abasement three bedroom house on the 351 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: finest damn animal crossing players in the whole goddamn country. 352 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: I am debt free on animal crossing. I am. I 353 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: am a millionaire. But to get there. You don't even 354 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: know how many stings I lost. You don't know how 355 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: many hairs I lost getting to this, this lifestyle that 356 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't just have a real life anymore. I don't 357 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: have a millionaire in real life. I am debt full 358 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: in real life, but at least on animal crossing, I've 359 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: created the perfect sanctuary. Um damn, I'm starting to totally 360 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: understand the appeal. Now I'm proud of you. You know 361 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: what does that make me? A game? It's like it's 362 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: like Cutzi Matrixtrix and now you're like in the cut Matrix, Like, yeah, 363 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: that I would rather be in there. I'll be like, Zack, 364 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: look at my outfit and then you wave a magic 365 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: wand boom, new outfit, new outfit, and he's like, it 366 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: seems a little contra, a little trite, honestly little outfit, 367 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: and then you're no light. No light is let's take 368 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: a quick break and will come back to hear miles 369 00:23:50,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: your People's of the Year and we're back. Uh And 370 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: before we get to you, Miles, super producer Anna Hosnie, 371 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: you told us who you thought was overrated, Tom Nook 372 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: because of your complicated feelings about being a gamer. What 373 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? The underrated person of 374 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: the Year. I'm, you know, underrated. This is going to 375 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: be controversial because I don't think anyone knows who this 376 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: person is, Anthony Davis of the l A Lakers. And 377 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: I say that because while he you guys will be like, oh, 378 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: I think he's appropriately rated. No, we are not talking 379 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: enough about Anthony Davis. Yes, I just watched his Becoming 380 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: episode on Disney Plus, so I have this whole scope 381 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: of him as a human being. But like, he's a great, 382 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: god damn player. I mean, that is the one thing 383 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I know about. I feel like we're not taught. Like 384 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's because my Twitter is I don't literally fully 385 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: follow NBA Twitter. Maybe people are talking about this, but 386 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: I personally don't think any I'm talking about it. I 387 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: don't hear it enough. It's all Lebron. This Lebron that cool, great, 388 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: we've heard of him. He's only the number two ranked 389 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: player this year. Let's talk about a deal a little more. 390 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: Enough of Harden's beard. We get he's like Davis Brow. Yeah, 391 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: as a child who was fully just just I grew 392 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: up with a unit brow very It took a long 393 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: time for my mom say, fine, shave off your eyebrows. 394 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: Do what you gotta do. Right. I see myself in 395 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. Damn right. So he's he's holding it down 396 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: brow culture. Yes, brow culture. Also just like seems like, um, 397 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: a really chill, nice guy who also happens to be 398 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: a really great basketball player. Yeah. Like anecdotes about him 399 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: was like he sounds like a very normal person or 400 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: like he's really into nerdy stuff too, like like tech wiz. 401 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: His siblings, his one of his older sister still tries 402 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: to take him on in basketball, like she hasn't care, 403 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Like she's like, yeah, sure, but I will just energy 404 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: we need. Yeah, he was like six one when he 405 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: was a sophomore in high school. I think like he shot, 406 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: he didn't become abnormally. He was six two to six 407 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: eight or something junior to senior year or something, or 408 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: sophomore to junior year. And that's why he's so good 409 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: because he was just like a point guard. Yeah, that's 410 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: like the faunt the base that he's building off his 411 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: skill sets off of. But that's also like a once 412 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: in a generation thing where somebody grows and like, isn't awkward? 413 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Is just like yeah, I just am all those same 414 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: skills but big now. Yeah, because like because Dennis Rodman 415 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: also had a legendary growth spurt too, but he wasn't 416 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: really working with basketball like that, where like it was 417 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: true as I was like, I don't know, and then 418 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: like combined with my tenacity and height, this it's all 419 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: working out for the world. He was wrestling bulls and 420 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: lighting their nuts off. Right. Wow, so underrated Anthony Davis 421 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: of the that is a shout out great job, Miles, 422 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: What is your overrated and overrated of the year? I 423 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: mean the overrated? I think I totally agree. I think 424 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: the Biden Harris stuff is completely overrated. Um. I think 425 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: this whole administration is just doing a wonderful job of 426 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: just diversifying the face of oppression rather than actually tackling 427 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the systemic issues of oppression. But you know, well, fine, 428 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: we we love a great photo, don't we. Um, So yes, 429 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: I'm fully on board of that. Another overrated which I 430 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of people haven't thought about. Are these 431 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: two guys named Kawhi Leonard and Paul George collectively? What 432 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: was that, y'all? Paul George, this look him just signing 433 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: a new deal and the ship he's already talking. I'm like, please, 434 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: uh step up, I'm ready. And you know, we we 435 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: want a little competition in acre Land because if it's 436 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: a very Clipper energy for him to be like, oh 437 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: my m v P season, it's like you finished third, bro, 438 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: like your own Yeah, l a basketball fans, we'll see 439 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: the Clippers and Laker thing. It's weird because like, the 440 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Lakers are the team and it just became a contrarian 441 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: team to follow in the city. And all my Clipper friends, 442 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: like all my friends that are Clipper fans, all did 443 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: it because they didn't like the Lakers. They just did 444 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: it to argue with me and my other Laker friends. 445 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: So but you know, that's that's that. I don't have 446 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: much to say about the overrated but underrated. I just 447 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: want to say is Darnella Frasier, I believe is probably 448 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated people this year. Um she's 449 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: the young woman who actually recorded the video of George 450 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Floyd being murdered by the police. And when you just 451 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: think of the mere existence it took the just eight, 452 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you know whatever ten minute long clip of watching someone 453 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: get killed in slow motion two jar people enough inside 454 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: of themselves to begin to out loud, begin to say 455 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: things like systemic white supremacy or these other things. Now, 456 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: a lot of places they gave it. It's fifteen minutes 457 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: and are back to regularly scheduled programming. But there's definitely 458 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: a group, uh And it's a it's awakened a part 459 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: of American culture that I think, um unfortunately took you know, 460 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: more additional loss of unarmed you know, people of color, 461 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: but that the mere existence of that video completely changed 462 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: the conversation because we had to bear witness to the 463 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: horrific nature of policing in this country. And you know, 464 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: she's she is, she has been winning awards, but I 465 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: I just think of what if this she's seventeen at 466 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: the time, she's seventeen, or she means she may still 467 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: be seventeen, but the wherewithal and courage and you know, 468 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: just being like this is I have this has to 469 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: be seen or we people need to know. Uh. I 470 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: don't know, I just get I still kind of get 471 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: a little choked up thinking about it, because it really 472 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: it's set off a hole uh wave of change or 473 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: you know the beginnings of what we hope can be 474 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: real meaningful change. But you know, obviously, even the video 475 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: that we saw from the perpetrators of Ahmad Arebury's murder, 476 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: you know that you know that that was taken by 477 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: somebody involved, which is just horrific in its own right, 478 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: But it was that one two punch of seeing that 479 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: on video and then George Floyd, which is apparently what 480 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: it took to, you know, get people to have this 481 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: conversation in earnest um I think really can't be discounted. 482 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: But I think, but then that's why I get a 483 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: little bit worried about this Biden Harris administration, because all 484 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: of that energy we saw is only going into a 485 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: party that is saying they don't don't say defund the police, 486 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: or we have issues with policing, or even Barack Obama 487 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: saying well, let's that's that's not that's a that's a 488 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: little too slick, or whatever the funk it is. That's 489 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: why again underrated to our the activists, because it takes 490 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: the people who are actually confronting the ills of our 491 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: society day to day and are still committed to trying 492 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: to rectify these situations that even are propelling us towards 493 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: something that looks better. And you know, shout out to 494 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: fucking everybody who put their blood, sweat and tears into 495 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: any kind of anything that was for social good this year. Uh, 496 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, recognized or unrecognized, because I think that's the 497 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: massively underrated thing that is happening. And also just to 498 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: feel that empowerment within yourself. You don't need to always 499 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: be an army of people or have an entire group. 500 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: You can be a teenager with a cell phone camera 501 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: who was just documenting some kind of horrific thing to 502 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: make sure that people aren't dying in vain, because unfortunately, 503 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: many hundreds of thousands of people are already dying in vain, 504 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: whether it's under you know, the fucked up way we're 505 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: handling the pandemic or over policing. So and she was 506 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: taking her life into her own hands. They're by doing 507 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: that absolutely, like that can't be understated. Like that is 508 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: when when you're doing that, like you're watching somebody straight 509 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: up murder someone in broad daylight, calmly and like that person, 510 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: what was to stop them from doing the same thing 511 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: to you when they see that you're taping it? Um? Yeah, 512 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: absolutely a hero. And I think like just tying it 513 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: all together with the Biden Harris thing. I think before 514 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: we got on we were talking about a somebody getting 515 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: mad that somebody had leaked audio of Biden like talking 516 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: shit or just being dismissive on a call with organizers 517 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: and activists and being like, why would you do that 518 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: to the Democratic Party? Like, I think there's gonna be 519 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: a real a lot of people in the mainstream media 520 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: and the you know, media establishment who are going to 521 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: be surprised how much things have changed with with people 522 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: with their audience when it comes to Black Lives Matter, 523 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to act really expecting leftist like more 524 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: socialist policies. Um so right. That is my hope for 525 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: is that people who are taken aback that we make 526 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: CNN say why I never Well, I think that that's 527 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: that's the thing that's happening that I don't know if 528 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Democrats are like the liberal establishment are 529 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: quite aware of because they're just looking like well, they've 530 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: voted for him. It's like, yeah, because there's a level 531 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: of awareness on this side that is saying yeah as 532 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: a binary between buyingan and Trump. Yeah, that's clear. However, 533 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: it is not going to end there, and the activists 534 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: and progressives will continue to be a thorn in the side. 535 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: And it's not like, you know, there are people who 536 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: were like I held my nose and voted for Donald 537 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: Trump as a Republican, but there weren't enough of those 538 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: people to actually be like, wait, what's going on. There 539 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: were more people who were blindly just buying all in 540 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: into this racism. But you know, there's the fracturing will occur, 541 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: and that'll be really interesting to see how they try 542 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: to basically put these movements down because they are like, 543 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, people write disingenuous, disingenuous pieces like in Politico 544 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: that's like how the left fell in love with Joe 545 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: Bienen's Like, no, full you just wrote that ship out 546 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: just like that, But that's not what it is. Um. 547 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think people are in store for a 548 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: very interesting next few years, but hopefully one that is 549 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: actually like being driven by the sincere desire for progress. 550 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he can side with Pelosi and like the establishment, 551 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 1: or he can actually uh you know, follow the lead 552 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: of where the energy is in the party and surprise 553 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: people and have a successful term because I mean there's 554 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: just no energy like if he if he fox over 555 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: the progressive side of the movement, then like I feel 556 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: like there's real division if he fox over the other side, 557 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: like they're gonna go along with it because it's gonna 558 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: be popular, like what Yeah, which is funny. It's like 559 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: if you do the good thing, more people are actually 560 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: into that. But you know, but they live in a 561 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: world where the majority is like this other kind of 562 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: American who's living in a completely different reality. So it's 563 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: fucking up everybody's reception. Yeah, yeah, alright, guys. That is 564 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: going to do it for our time person of the 565 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: Year episode, our Zeitgeist person of the Year. You heard 566 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: it here. That is going to do it for today. 567 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more episodes to keep you guys 568 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: entertained and informed and thinking during this holiday break. Until then, 569 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: take care, enjoy uh any downtime you may uh get 570 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: to get to have. Thanks guys, talk to you soon. 571 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: Bye by wh