1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound on 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: the amount of water that's been rising is basically a 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: five hundred year flood of that complimented me. He thanked 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: me for the immediate response we had. He told me 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: how much he appreciated the offered support. I told him, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: thanks for the Bloomberg sound on politics, policy and perspective 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: from DC's top name Superman. Funding is set to run 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: out Friday at midnight, roughly forty hours from now. On 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: the very first day our very first bill Bluie Peel 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: the eighties seven thousand I R. S. H. Schloomberg Sound 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Dean heads back 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: to hurricane strength after leaving a hundred fifty mile path 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: of destruction in Florida and forcing two political rivals to 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: work together. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics. Has 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: rescue efforts begin and focus now returns to weakness in 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: our infrastructure. We'll get an update shortly from out Florida 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: and talk about the job ahead with former FEMA administrator 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: at Craig Fugate. Later, the Senate passes legislation to fund 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: the government's actually got it done sending it to the 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: House ahead of a Friday deadline. We'll talk about what's 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: next with Bloomberg Congress reporter Laura Davison. Analysis from our 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: panel today Bloomberg Politics contributor and Democratic analyst Ginnie Schanzano, 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: along with Republican strategist Adam Goodman from Tough Fletcher School, 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: catastrophic damage in Florida as hurricane and carves a hundred 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: fifty mile path of destruction through the state. Governor Rhonda 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Santa says it's historic. The amount of water that's been 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: rising and will likely continue to rise today even as 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: the storm is passing. Uh is basically a five hundred 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: year flood of ap The Santis staying in close contact 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: with President Biden. As we told you yesterday, that continues 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: both today. We're speaking fairly well of each other. I 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: just spoke with the President this morning. He offered support. 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I told him the thanks for this, but because the 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: storm has moved inland and caused a lot of potential 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: damage in the center part of our state, that we 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: were going to be asking for those counties to be expanded. 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: And of course President Biden was asked about the same thing. 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: Their relationship their conversations. What did you guys say he 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: made a visit to FEMA headquarters in Washington. It's totally irrelevant, 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: but I'll answer it. Okay. In fact, very fine. He 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: complimented me, He thanked me for the immediate response we had. 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: He told me how much he appreciated it, said he 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: was extremely happy with what was going on. This is 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: not about whether or anything having to do with our 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: disagreements politically. This is about saving people's lives, homes, and businesses. 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: That's what this is about. And so I've been I've 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: talked to him four or five times already, and it's 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: not a matter of my disagreements with them on other 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: items that's steering around politics today as they deal with 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: the matter at hand. Clearly, we begin our coverage on 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: the ground in Florida. Bloomberg's Will Wade specializes in power 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and renewable energy, has been traveling through the state. He's 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: now in Tampa, which mercifully dodged a bit of a bullet. 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: Will thank you for being with A. Is there any 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: power there? Yeah, Tampa mostly has power, although I can 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: tell you there's a gasolene shortage. I just had to 57 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: fill my tank after looking at eleven gas stations, and 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: Tampa is lucky that it has power to pump the 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: gasoline pumps. I was down in Port Charlotte most of 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: the day. There's no power there. The whole area has 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: no power and it's going to be several days a 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: week before they can get the power back up. There's 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of damage to all the power lines. What's 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: the situation statewide in terms of the power grid? Is 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: that typical of what you're seeing across the state? Yeah, 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: it is typical. I think I heard that there's at 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: least two million homes and businesses that don't have electricity. 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: The storm came ashore in southwest Florida, basically went to 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the state, turned north, went all the 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: way up through the center of the state, across all 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: the Orange Groves, pasted over Orlando. Disney World has been 72 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: shut down, so I guess that's a lot of power 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: demand that they don't need. Headed out near Jacksonville towards 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: the Alantic. So there's people without power all across Florida. 75 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: This is what happens when a huge hurricane passes by, well, 76 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: certainly like this one. What kind of flooding if any 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: are you seeing at this point in Tampa And how 78 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: does that compare to where you were earlier? Oh? Nothing 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Tampa got a lot of wind, a lot 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: of rain last night. It was definitely serious. I was 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: glad to be indoors. But when I was down in 82 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: Port Charlotte there were flooded roads, lots and lots of 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: huge trees had blown over, some on tops of houses. Uh. 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: You know what was interesting is that a lot of 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: intersections the street lights had blown down. They were literally, 86 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, big red, yellow, green traffic signals hanging down 87 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: from their wires in the wood of the intersection. Some 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: of them they were gone. It's like blown them completely away. 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: So even when the power gets back gets gets turned 90 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: back on, it's gonna be a while before they can 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: get the signals going and traffic moving. Well, thank you 92 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: so much and appreciate all the reporting that you've done today. 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Will Wade Bloomberg Energy reporter with us to start things 94 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: off on sound on, and we had a voice of 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: experience now in Craig Fugate, who famously oversaw the Big 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Four of OH four if you remember the four major 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: hurricanes of that year when he was administrator of the 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Federal Emergency Management Agency now Chief Emergency Resilience officer at 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: one Concern Craig thanks for joining us today. I know 100 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: how busy you are. How much trouble is Florida in 101 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: right now? Well, this is gonna be a long recovery. Um. Yeah, 102 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: I think the power outages across the areas to the 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: north and northeast, those are gonna come back quick. Those 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: were trees on parallels, busted transformers. Uh, the utilities will 105 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: get that back up relatively quick. Down where your reporters at, 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: the systems destroyed, so they're not just gonna be fixing it, 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to rebuild it. And the storm serves 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: damage down there. I mean, people through the turnaround catastrophic 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: a lot, but this area, this is the worst hurricane 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: impact they've ever had in their history. It is their 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: version of Hurricane Andrew on that southwest coast. Yes, well 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: that's saying something them Governor to Santis earlier today, essentially 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: saying that Santa Belt Island, large portions of Santa Belt 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: Island are just wiped out. The road getting out there, Uh, 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: is is underwater or destroyed. How long is it going 116 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: to take Craig before we actually have have a real 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: sense of the level of destruction that's been done. I 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: would say over the next couple of days. Again, the 119 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: big focus is just getting back in these areas to 120 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: do search and rescue. You get the people that have 121 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: been cut off and trapped. But as you're doing that, 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: you'll get a better sense. But this is why, you know, 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: we've always talked about this. You've heard the hurricanes that 124 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: are talking about they were really emphasizing storm surge and water. 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times people focus on with 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: but a lot of this you're seeing where these bridges 127 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: were taken out, the overtopping and cutting some of these 128 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: islands in the destruction. This is mainly the water storm surge. 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: The federal government is going to play a huge role here, 130 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: obviously President Biden today pledging you know, whatever Florida needs 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: and states of emergency are already in place. Is this 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: going to be a record center? I mean the amount 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: of money and the amount of funding and manpower that 134 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: will be needed to to fix this into your point, 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: to rebuild it. It's gonna be up in the top ten. 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if it gets up to the top five. 137 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: We'll find that out. But let's remind everybody we talked 138 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: to federal government, we're talking about you and me as taxpayers, 139 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: and this is one of the things that we do 140 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: as a nation. We come together for states that are 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: hit and both ours and D's. You know, I've been 142 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: on both sides of this. But this is our tax 143 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: dollars at work, and this is going to be an 144 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: expensive recovery. Well, it sure is. And there's a big 145 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: conversation going on right now about our infrastructure and whether 146 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: we have the funding necessary to to not just rebuild 147 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: in places like Florida hit by storms, but to upgrade 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: around the country so they are more resilient. Does that 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: create an opportunity to to do something that might help 150 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Florida in the future. Craig absolutely. I mean, if we 151 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: build it back the way it was, were fools, because 152 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna get hit again. I mean, this is where 153 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: we need to really think seriously about it's better to 154 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: spend a little bit more money on the front end 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: and build residency into our communities and infrastructure so when 156 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: storms happen in the future, you have will be damaging, 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: but they won't be catastrophic and will recover faster. And 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: that's something that we need to think about across the nation. 159 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Just going by our past history is not preparing us 160 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: for what is happening with these extreme weather events, and 161 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: we cannot continue it forward to go back and rebuild 162 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: and rebuild and rebuild after these disasters few gate. When 163 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: you look across the state, how does the how does 164 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: the the inland area compared to the coast. I mean 165 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: when you when you watch this storm go right up 166 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: over Orlando, how severe will the damage be away from 167 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the water. You know, it's gonna be kind of spotty. 168 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: One good thing is because Florida has been strengthening the 169 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: building code since Hurricane Andrew and after two thousand four 170 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: hurricane seasons, a lot of newer construction will do pretty good. 171 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: We did have some pockets of flooding. You saw nursing homes. 172 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: Another place is that had to be evacuated where we 173 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: get ponding. You know, Florida is not a very high elevation. 174 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Where we get water, it's gonna go to the low 175 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: spots and pond up, So it's gonna be pockets of damage. 176 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Like right now in uh St Augustine, they're getting flooding downtown, 177 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: So there'll be pockets of it, but it won't be 178 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: the catastrophic damage that's very concentrated on that part of 179 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: the southwest coast. You know, we heard Governor de Santis 180 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: repeat words from the sheriff of Lee County earlier today 181 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: that there could be reports at least there could be 182 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: fatalities in the hundreds. Craig, what did you make of that? 183 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: And and how does that uh square with with the 184 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: level of storm that we're talking about. You know what 185 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: I found a long time ago, and this goes all 186 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: the way back to Hurricane Andrew. But if you remember her, 187 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: the tornadoes that hit Joplin, the early estimates, it's very 188 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: hard to get good numbers, and so you know, when 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: I was at Florida, we had a pretty ironclad rolled 190 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: that until uh, the medical examiners able to certify the death, 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: we didn't give out official numbers because it's just such 192 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: such a range. And you gotta remember, we got loved 193 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: ones here that don't know, and you want to make 194 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: sure you're able to notify next akin before you know 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: that starts coming out. So uh, and if you remember Joplin, 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: we had up to three thousand people reported missing that 197 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: we're possibly concerned that they may be fatalities. Turned out 198 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: was duplicate list, and though the loss of life was horrific, 199 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't three thousand. It was in the hundreds, which 200 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: was you know, that was tragic enough. But again, I 201 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: think been doing this long enough, uh is we really 202 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: need to have a process to make sure that uh 203 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: we have accurate counts, that we don't dismiss this that 204 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: we probably have had fatalities, But we also have to 205 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,239 Speaker 1: make sure that we're getting the right information because families 206 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: are evacuated, are worried, sick, and these numbers, unless we 207 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: can verify them, are causing a lot of stress. I think, yeah, yeah, 208 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: there's potential there, but let's let's be very specific and 209 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: make sure that we're getting the right information, that we're 210 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: getting Mexican identifications, and that we're you know, keeping this 211 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: as we identify it, are able to confirs and then 212 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: add that to the numbers. Well, that's good perspective, Craig, 213 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: thank you, And in our in our remaining moment, I 214 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: would ask you what you consider the most dangerous thing 215 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: right now for the people to Florida, those who are 216 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: particularly in the flooded areas. Is it? Is it? Is it? 217 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Power lines? Is it? People just being away from their homes? 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: What what concerns you tonight? People getting out and about. 219 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: It's a very hazard situation. We got paral lines down, 220 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: We've got flooded roads, You've got all kinds of debris, 221 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: you have all kinds of things, sewage, gas and whatever 222 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: in the floodwaters um in Florida. We know people are 223 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: more likely to lose their lives even in the days 224 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: after a hurricane because of the hazards. So it's like 225 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: the hardest thing is getting people just that they're safe, 226 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: stay where they're at, and not trying to get out. 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: You just heard it from the former administrator of FEMA 228 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: now chief Emergency Resilience officer at one concerned, Craig Fewgate. 229 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the insights the expertise. Were 230 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: going to assemble the panel next and explore the politics 231 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: surrounding this rescue and relief effort on the fastest hour 232 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: in politics. This is Bloomberg. I see pure devastation, pure devastation. Uh. 233 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: And I pray that the majority of people listen and 234 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: left before this storm. I pray the amount of water 235 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: that's been rising and will likely continue to rise today 236 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: even as the storm is passing. UH is basically a 237 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: five year flood of that this could be the deadliest 238 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: hurricane in Florida's history. The numbers of still are still unclear, 239 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: but we're hearing early reports of what may be substantial 240 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: loss of life. I don't know in that debris, I 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: don't know. There's there's no more buildings in some places, 242 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: no more homes. Homes are washed away. So do we 243 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: know there's gonna be a death hold? We believe there 244 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: will be, and I know there will be. I just 245 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: don't know. The numbers is coming up my way in 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: South Carolina, so we'll we'll all be ready. So we 247 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: want to let everybody know we're thinking about Landslides are 248 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: threatened our mountains, and there's a chance of cornadoes statewide. 249 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: This storm can still be dangerous and even deadly. My 250 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: message the people of Florida the country is at times 251 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: like this, America comes together. We're gonna pull together as 252 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: one team, as one America sounds from a tough day 253 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: in Florida and soon to be in the Carolinas as 254 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Hurricane Ian set to regain hurricane strength. The headlines scary too. 255 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: On the terminal, Biden says, reports suggests substantial storm deaths. 256 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: As we were just discussing with Craig few gave here 257 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: on sound On, I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. As we 258 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: assemble the panel today, Genie Schanzano is with US Democratic 259 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: analyst in Bloomberg Politics contributor, joined today by Adam Goodman, 260 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: partner at Ballard Partners, Edward Armorrow, Senior Fellow at tuss University. 261 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: It's great to have you both back here, Genie. This 262 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: is a big test politics never removed from an event 263 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: like this, and what a what a contrast to see 264 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: President Biden working with Governor Rhnda Santis for the better 265 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: of the people. I guess it's a reminder of what 266 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: they're their jobs really are for both of them, but 267 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: also something that's good to see here. And what's a 268 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: very challenging situation it is. And you know, I thought 269 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Craig Fuiate in your conversation made a really important point. 270 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: This is the job of all the state and federal 271 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: governments together to work together to do this, and it 272 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: does require a substantial amount of investment, and it's important 273 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: that we are there to help rebuild this community in 274 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: the best way possible. As you know me personally, is 275 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: a year ago got hit very very hard in pursion 276 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: by by storm Ida, not nearly as much damage as 277 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: they're experiencing down in Florida, So certainly thinking about everybody there, 278 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: it we still have not recovered here and it wasn't 279 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: even you know, nearly as big of a storm. Yeah, 280 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: And of course this is uh still a very dangerous 281 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: situation and there is a potential, Adam Goodman, for a 282 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: lot more damage and a lot more people to be 283 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: in harm's way here over the next hours as this 284 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: thing moves up the eastern seaboard. Here. The argument though 285 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: for investing in a more resilient infrastructure, could never be louder. Couldn't. Absolutely. 286 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that Craig Foodgate actually talked 287 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: about was were the new building codes that went into 288 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: play after the last major hurricane. Uh. That's gonna end 289 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: up saving a lot of buildings and maybe saving lives. Uh. 290 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna need to do even more 291 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of that. But what also is going to is em 292 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: play here that was happy name long before Ian was named. 293 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: UH is a property insurance crisis of sorts in Florida 294 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: where property homeowners were really getting squeezed Joe by rapidly 295 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: rising premiums um. I could only imagine what it may 296 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: be moving forward. But to the one point that was 297 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: made up front here about the nonpartisan nature of the response, 298 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Holly right that instead of a retreat the partisan corners, uh, 299 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: the President and the governor of Florida had a reunion 300 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of the ring. And that's something I 301 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: think everyone can feel good about. Well, I sure hope. So. 302 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: I remember Chris Christy being you know, just criticized heavily 303 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: for for for hosting Barack Obama following Superstorm Sandy. Granted, 304 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: you're not gonna see run to Santi's hugging Joe Biden, Genie, 305 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: at least, I'm assuming that's not going to happen here. 306 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: But but but Genie, of course, these these moments can 307 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: frequently be followed by the blame game. It's it's probably 308 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: in both of their interests to keep this going as 309 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: long as they can. That's right. And Charlie Kristen Florida 310 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: and Obama they had as he had a similar situation 311 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: as Chris Christie that we remember, well the embrace on 312 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: the tarmac that you know, really you know, went viral 313 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: your career, killing hug and and you know, we've seen 314 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: politicians who have been undermined by storm response. This is 315 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: when you know whether you've got somebody who can truly govern, 316 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: who is truly capable and competent as they see you 317 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: through a crisis and it's aftermath. The reality is the 318 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: media will leave in a few days a week. These 319 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: people will be dealing with a devastating impact of this 320 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: for a lifetime. And this is the job of the governor, 321 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: of the president, and quite frankly, of our entire political class. 322 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: And so they do deserve credit for working together and 323 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: they should be working together. Important news. By the way, 324 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: for those even who watched this might not have heard 325 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: of the president was off Mike. Somebody shout at a question. 326 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: He is not only planning to go to Florida, and boy, 327 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: that's going to be a pectical because he will be 328 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: I assume, greeted by Governor de Santis when he shows up, 329 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: or maybe he loves something busy, would be busy with 330 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: something else to do. But he also said he planned 331 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: to go to Puerto Rico, Adam, how difficult a trip 332 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: is that going to be to pull off? Uh, It's 333 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: it's a good trip. It's a very trip. It's an 334 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: important trip. It's important to show up, you know. And 335 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: as with everything in life, Uh, it's showing up that 336 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: really counts. Uh. When every all the chips are on 337 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: the table. I applaud the President for for that intention 338 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: and for going to Florida. But I think what we saw, 339 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: what I don't want us to lose in all this 340 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: is in the state of Florida. You know, I'm a Floridian. 341 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: I have just a couple of seconds left at him. Yeah, Okay. 342 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: All I can tell you is that it's a test 343 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: of fier for Florida governors when you have to face 344 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: a hurricane. And I think the governor of Florida last 345 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: night came up big Adam Goodman with us and more 346 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: to follow. This is Bloomberg broadcasting live from our nation's capital. 347 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to New York, Bloomberg eleven Frio to Boston, Bloomberg 348 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: one oh six one to San Francisco, Bloomberg nine sixty 349 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: to the Country Serious x M General one nineteen and 350 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: around the globe. The Bloomberg business app and Bloomberg Radio 351 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew. 352 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: And so now it's up to the House. With a 353 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: little more than twenty four hours to the deadline, the 354 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Senate passed legislation to fund the government. It happened today, 355 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: of course, without Joe Manchin's permitting bill, which by the way, 356 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: included upgrades to the power grid with an eye on 357 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: Hurricane Ian. We'll talk next to Bloomberg Congress reporter Laura 358 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Davison on this vote. The yas are seventy two, the 359 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: nays are twenty five. The sixty vote threshold having been achieved, 360 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: the bill as amended is passed. There it is seventy 361 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: two twenty five on the House. Senator Tina Smith there 362 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: presiding over the chain as the Senate pass legislation to 363 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: fund the government through the middle of December. Right, December sixteen, 364 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: I think is the magic date here, and boy, that's 365 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. But no one is popping corks yet. 366 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: As Republican House Leader Kevin McCarthy urges all of his 367 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: members to vote no on the bill feasibly tomorrow. Laura 368 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: Davis and Bloomberg's Congress reporter is watching all of this 369 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and always great to have you with us, Laura. Is 370 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: that going to make a difference? I mean, can Kevin 371 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy really get the entire caucus to vote no on 372 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: avoiding a shutdown? You know it's possible, But even still, 373 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: if Democrats stick together, this will still pass. So you know, 374 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I expect that the vote will be close here. You 375 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: might see a couple of Republicans break with McCarthy and 376 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: vote with Democrats, but it's going to be largely lopsided 377 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: of Democrats voting yes and Republicans voting no. But really 378 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: it'll pass without a lot of drama. The real question 379 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: is sort of what happened post mid terms and both 380 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: the control for both chambers very close. We don't know 381 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Lawmakers will come back in December 382 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of things they need to do 383 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: and sort of who it come at came out on 384 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: top in the midterms. Is good to determine who has 385 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: leveraged in those year negotiations, you know, and we'll be 386 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: talking about another possible shutdown just in time for Christmas, right. 387 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: We we love doing it like this every year. Yes, 388 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: schoolmakers like to give themselves these little deadlines, usually right 389 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: before a holiday or a break. You know, they're itching 390 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: to get home to go campaign for the mid terms. 391 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: December sixteenth, right before the holidays. Uh so you know 392 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: they usually can you know, give themselves an extra week. 393 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: You'll see, you know, there's kind of a week in there. 394 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: If they can't get a deal by the sixteenth, they 395 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: can still stay in for a couple more days and 396 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: still be home by Christmas Eve. But that's really the 397 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: goal here. And and there's there's a lot that they 398 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: need to get done. There's some stuff that we're left 399 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: off this bill permitting reform for energy projects. Mansion had 400 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: a proposal that got dropped. That's one of the things 401 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that they're going to have to come back and the 402 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: dress Well want to ask you about that because you know, 403 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: with the with the hurricane just ravaging the state of Florida, 404 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: it's not lost on us that that legislation. Of course, 405 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: it did a lot more than reform permitting itself, but 406 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: it would actually it would boost the fed Will government's 407 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: authority to approve electricity transmission lines. This had a there 408 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: was a large component that was focused on the electric grid, 409 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: not just you know, drilling for oil here high capacity wires, 410 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: uh that that send electricity to cities and towns that 411 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: would be more resilient in times like these. Republicans knew 412 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: this though, right they wanted to have their own bill 413 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: without Joe Manson's name on it. That might be a 414 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: bit wider. Is that what you expect? Yeah? So, really, 415 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: you know the issue years, Republicans and Democrats aren't that 416 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: far apart on what they want. But remember, this is 417 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: a deal that Mansion and Schumer struck way to facilitate 418 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: the passage of the inflation reduction at So put anybody 419 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: else's name on it and Republicans will vote yes. Right, really, 420 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and and Senator selling more capital you know, Mansions colleague 421 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: from West Virginia has another bill. I suspect we'll see, 422 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of horse trading when they 423 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: come back in November December, have a bill that is 424 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: substantially similar, but that will have the votes to pass 425 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: on the floor. You've mentioned post midterms a couple of times, Laura, 426 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: and you were probably there today. Kevin McCarthy, who I 427 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: already mentioned, was on the steps of the House with 428 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: the Republican leadership. If not the entire caucus. Well it 429 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: couldn't be the entire but there was quite a crowd 430 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: on the steps there as he talked about their vision 431 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: going into the midterm elections and their plans to come 432 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: out of this as the as of course, the the 433 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: party in control of the House. Here's what he said, 434 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: on the very first day, our very first bill really 435 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: peel the eighties seven thousand I R S. Agents got 436 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: a big round of applause for that. And we've heard 437 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: this before because your government should be here to help you, 438 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: not to go after you. But considering all of the 439 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: challenges in the world right now, Uh, Laura, you know, 440 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: it's an interesting tax for the party to take. I 441 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: know that the Republican Party of CHRISTI it's easy to 442 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: bash the I R S. But would wouldn't that imply 443 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: that the party was somehow endorsing tax fraud? What's the 444 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: problem with enforcing the law? Yeah, this is really an 445 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: a key line that Republicans are going to have to 446 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: balance here. The other thing too, that they're also going 447 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: to have to, uh, you know, deal with is that 448 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: they you know, really don't support more money for the 449 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I R S, but they say they want better customer 450 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: service and better technology systems from the i r S. 451 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: And those don't come free. So they're going to have 452 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: to try to figure out what level of funding they 453 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: are comfortable with, what level of increased enforcement. You know, 454 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: there's the current i RS Commissioner estimates that there's a 455 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: trillion dollars in tax fraud that it basically taxes that 456 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: aren't being collected each year. And remember this is a 457 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Trump appointee, this is a this is a Republican. So 458 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: this is a problem they're going to have to deal with. 459 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Democrats are a little bit more comfortable saying yes, go 460 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: after the tax sheets. That's a you know, a little 461 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: bit less comfortable for Republicans. Yeah, well, I mean look 462 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: eighty seven thousand. Of course, there was a there was 463 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: a line out there that was not true, that they 464 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: would be armed and banging on people's doors and so forth. 465 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: It's really become uh, kind of a political football in 466 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: In the meantime, they do we know the status of 467 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: those agents are they actually have they been hired? Yeah? 468 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: So the I R S is giving eighty billion dollars 469 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: to spend over the next decade. They got this money, 470 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, last month they don't even have the plan yet. 471 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: They're working on that of how to deploy all that money. 472 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: But it's not one It's not gonna be eight seven agents. 473 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: That was sort of a number that was extrapolated from 474 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: a report, So that's a little bit of a fact 475 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: check false on that. But they will be hiring a 476 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: lot of staff, both for auditors as well as for 477 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: customer service agents, people to answer the phone, customer service 478 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: reps um. So these are these are things that they're 479 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: working on and will be doled out over the next decade. 480 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff here. There's twelve billion dollars by the way, 481 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: in this continuing resolution for Ukraine. Uh, it was even 482 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: more than the administration asked for. When we see numbers 483 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: like that, will that be debated in the House sent 484 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: back to the Senate or do they have not enough 485 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: time and simping? You have to approve what the Senate 486 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: sends over the Senate is really jamming the House here. 487 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: You know they are voting on this, you know, the 488 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: day before the deadline giving it to the House. The 489 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: day of the deadline, the senators are are on their 490 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: flights headed home. So that's not something they'll be able 491 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: to negotiate, we'll fee from the fall, so you gotta 492 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: go with what you got. That's the deal for the House. 493 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: And welcome to Washington everyone. Laura's great to talk to. 494 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: You really knows her stuff. Laura Davidson, great conversation. Bloomberg 495 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: Congress reporter looked for her byline on the terminal as 496 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: our Washington and specifically Capitol Hill team cover this thing 497 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: right up to the line. Yet again, I mean, it 498 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: really does sound familiar, and at least lawmakers were not threatening. Well, 499 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: actually that's not true. There was a group of Democrats 500 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: threatening to shut down the government weeks ago, but nobody 501 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: was talking about it like that right up to the line. 502 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Wall Street has enough to worry about. Then have to 503 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: deal with the government shut down in the middle of 504 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: this weeks before, of course, a midterm election cycle. We're 505 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna reassemble the panel next. Adam Goodamen and Jeannie Chanzano 506 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: are with us here on the Thursday edition Little Friday 507 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Sound on the Fastest Hour in Politics. Marjorie 508 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: Tayler Green wants to go hog hunting and is inviting 509 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: you and the January six Committee sits down with Jenny 510 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Thomas today, just some of the topics that will touch 511 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: with our panel. Next that we'll check traffic and markets 512 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: for you on the way. Thanks for being with us. 513 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew and Washington. This is Bloomberg. You're listening 514 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. 515 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: I suppose it's easy to tell your members to vote 516 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: no on something if you know it's going to pass anyway. 517 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: But what if it didn't. Wouldn't Kevin McCarthy then carry 518 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: the blame as the party that forced the government shut 519 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: down here in the middle of political games. There is 520 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: a risk, of course, As we reassemble the panel, Genie Chanzano, 521 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Democratic analyst and Bloomberg Politics contributor joining us today with 522 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Adam Goodman, Republican strategist, partner at Ballard Partners. Edward R. Murrow, 523 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Senior Fellow at Tufts University. It's great to have both 524 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: of you here. What do you make of that, uh, Genie, 525 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: When you consider the possibility of this going down with 526 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: mid term elections looming, the blame game would be fierce. 527 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: It could be fierce. I think they'd be pointing fingers 528 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: at both sides. But it's you just discussed. The Democrats 529 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: have the vote to get votes to get this through, 530 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the reason that McCarthy 531 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: can make this. There probably won't be an even defections. 532 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to say no 533 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: because if I show up here tomorrow and we're in 534 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: a shut down, then I'll feel very badly. But you know, 535 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: I think you know Kevin McCarthy. You know his point 536 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: is he doesn't want his members to have to go 537 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: back home to their districts and defend this vote a 538 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: vote of yes and going along with the Democrats. Nor 539 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: does he want them to have to defend it if 540 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: they win the House and and they're battling over what 541 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: the budget is going to be, because of course this 542 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: is just another stop gap measure. We're going to do 543 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: this all over again after the mid terms. Adam, I 544 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: want to ask you what I asked Laura a couple 545 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: of moments ago. This this line from Kevin McCarthy today 546 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: on the first thing that Republican kins would do if 547 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: they won the House on the very first day, our 548 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: very first bill really peel the eighties seven thousand I 549 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: R S Agents I'm wondering your thought on that and 550 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: the rational behind it. I realized it's easy to hate 551 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: the I R S. And maybe it's just as simple 552 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: as that. You know, get people wound up about the 553 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: I R S. But isn't that saying that we prefer 554 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: not to enforce the tax code? Well, I hate to 555 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: say it's as simple as that. If you were to 556 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: see a focus group, Joe, uh and that question we're asked, 557 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: and not just among Republicans, say even independence and the 558 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: question is should we hire eighty seven thousand more I 559 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: R S agents at a time when there's economic pressure 560 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: from inflation that's out of control, from government spending the 561 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: historic levels? Is this the time to hire eighties seven 562 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: thousand new agents? You'd have people breaking that two way glass. 563 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: So it's just good politics. Just throw it out there, right, Yeah, 564 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: it's it's politics. Um, and I think you know the 565 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: point that was made in your in your previous segment 566 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: is it's over ten years, so it's not like seven 567 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: thousand people a doorsteps tomorrow. U big news today in Washington. 568 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: I want to ask you both about what you're supposed 569 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: to have a January six hearing. Yesterday we don't know 570 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: when it's going to happen. It was postponed out of 571 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: deference to those in in the storm track in Florida 572 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: in the path of the storm. But we we saw 573 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: today that Jenny Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice 574 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas, actually sat for a deposition, actually testified before 575 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: the committee today. Reporter from CNN captured her walking by 576 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: It's really it was kind of odd. She's walking with 577 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: the legal team, probably a security guard, and was just smiling. 578 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: She was all smiles. Clearly you know, knew how to 579 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: do this and would only say thank you to every question. Thomas, 580 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: why do you feel like you need to speak to 581 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: the committee to clear your name? Can keep from being here? 582 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: Did you speak with your husband and your beliefs to 583 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the election being stolen? Thank you for your question. Forward 584 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: to answering member, and in they went, and now I 585 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: see on the terminal here. The conservative activist wife of 586 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Justice Thomas, reiterated to the House panel the last year's 587 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: storming of the Capitol on that day. Her belief was 588 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: that there was something wrong with the election results. She 589 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: told the panel that the election was flawed. Genie, there 590 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: were questions today about whether the committee postponed this hearing 591 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: so they could include her testimony that was shot down. 592 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: But there's something to that, isn't there? Yeah? I think 593 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: there is. And you know, they'd have to have a 594 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: whole other hearing with this if they didn't get it in. Yeah, yeah, 595 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: they would have to. But you know, I think that 596 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: what startling here is we're coming close to the first 597 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Monday in October when the Supreme Court's new term comes 598 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: into play. Gallup has a all out which shows Americans 599 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: trust in the Court has declined dramatically, a twenty point 600 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: dropped from two years ago. You have Jenny Thomas testifying 601 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: today saying she didn't discuss these issues with her husband. 602 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: Many people, whether they find it hard to believe or not, 603 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: that's what she's saying. But she also apparently reiterated her 604 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: belief that the election was stolen. So we are talking 605 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: about the legitimacy of and trust in a very important 606 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: branch of government. And you know, the politicization of the 607 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: Court is real and it is very problematic, regardless of 608 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: which party you are in. Benny Thompson, the chair of 609 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: the committee, was asked if he believes that Justice Thomas 610 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: should recuse himself. This has been a question in Washington 611 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: since this whole Jennie Thomas thing emerged. He said, quote, 612 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: I think members of the Supreme Court ought to be 613 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: held to the same ethical standards that other judges are 614 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: held to unquote. Should Justice Thomas refuse himself? I think 615 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I think to Jennie's point out 616 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: the declining reputation of the Court, which, by the way 617 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: Joe put it in the context of the declining faith 618 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Americans have in almost every institution there is. In fact, 619 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: the only things that are still relatively popular are the 620 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: military Small Business, Court of Pew Research, the military small business, 621 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: and at times the police. Everything else is below the 622 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: cut line of confidence. Uh, Jenny really believes that the 623 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: there was a problem with the election. She believed that 624 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: back when she believes that now she's not alone, and 625 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: which raises the bigger question, which is when are we 626 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: going to do something to restore faith in the in 627 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: the integrity of the ballot where people believe that a 628 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: winner is actually a winner as opposed to just an 629 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: excuse to say that one was stolen. And suddenly the 630 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: legitimacy of everyone who stands for election is being questioned. 631 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know where this is going here, uh, Gennie, 632 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: but the calendar is sensitive. We've also got the midfterm 633 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: elections that could be coming, you know, depending on where 634 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: this lands two weeks later. Yeah, that's right, and you 635 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: know we are staring down at the mid term election. Um. 636 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: You know it's accused of thumbing the scale exactly. And 637 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, just to follow up, I was just looking 638 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: at the data that Adams talking about in the early 639 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: ninete of Americans had trust in the government. That is 640 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: down close to one out of five, you know, depending 641 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: on what you're you're looking now, it's a dramatic decrease 642 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: in a really frightening, you know, picture of where we 643 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: are today in American government. But have you heard about 644 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: the hog hunting? This is stopped me dead in my 645 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: tracks today, Marjorie Taylor Green. I suppose it's not the 646 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: first time Adam saw it. I can already tell out 647 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: with a new ad inviting people to enter a contest 648 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: to not only go hog hunting, but go hog hunting 649 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: from helicopter, complete with the rock sound track rocketing inflation, 650 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: high discol fuel, and the perhaps America last policies. Democrats 651 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: aren't the only one destroying farmer's ability to the table. 652 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: We've got wild hogs destroying farmer's field. So we decided 653 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: to go hog honey. Did you see her actually with 654 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: an a R fifteen or whatever the heck style of 655 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: assault weapon. She's hanging out of the door of a 656 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: helicopter shooting hogs from the air and then is posing 657 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: with the dead hog on the ground. Sign up, blow 658 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: and let's go in the helicopter and gog honey. I 659 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: feel like we should maybe just enter. I mean, it 660 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: would be good for the program. But you know, it's 661 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 1: interesting as it turns out, Genie, as I read uh 662 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: on the internets. While hunting may seem like the answer, 663 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: Newsweek reports the U. S d A says it actually 664 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: makes things worse. The pigs become nocturnal and we'll travel 665 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: more than a hundred miles to avoid hunters. So she 666 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: seems to be sending the hogs to someone else's farm. 667 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: A you're gonna sign up for this, Genie? I did. 668 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: I too, watched the video or the the ad, and 669 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, these these hogs are under attack. We had 670 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: Bill Cassidy talking about Farrell hogs. Now she's talking about hogs, 671 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, likening them to Democrats, and you know, poor hoggs, 672 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, they're gonna run away. They're gonna all 673 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: run to d C to see you, Joe, and you 674 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: know they're gonna be multiplying nocturnally. Um. You know, listen, 675 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: she's talking about, you know, the harm that Biden did 676 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: to farmers, hence this need to uh, I guess, destroy 677 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: the Farrell hogs. She never mentions the harm that Trump 678 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: did to two farmers in the trade war with China 679 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: and the you know, the amount of stimulus that followed that. 680 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: So the little bit of problem I had with the 681 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: logic and you know, just putting aside the great music 682 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: and the unfortunate chasing of these hogs. Adamu. This ad 683 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: has been watched more than three hundred and seventy thousand 684 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: times on Twitter since it went up two days ago 685 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: or something. What what is this? What is her brand? 686 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: What would her brand be in a new Republican House majority? 687 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: And I asked you that, remembering that she was sitting 688 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: right behind Kevin McCarthy at his Commitment to America speech 689 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: on Friday. I think that you if you put a 690 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: caption underneath her right now, uh for and give it 691 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: a name. It would be hog wild. Right, she's gone 692 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: hog wild, she has She's going from the atlantist to 693 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: the outrageous. She's never had a problem with that. She 694 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: likes getting action. Clearly, this is what this is. I 695 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: feel sorry for the hogs by the way, for the record, 696 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes the rush to go viral is 697 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: not always good for your political health. I think at 698 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: some point, yeah, this the price will be paid for this. 699 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: It's for effect, it's a it's a it's a compelling 700 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: that if you if you're if you're talking about recall, 701 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: but it's a kind of a repulse that when you 702 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: talk about what was really going on here shooting from helicopters. 703 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: Genie Well, although, Gennie, she'll be back on committees though, right, yeah, 704 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: I think she will. Yeah. And Kevin McCarthy is going 705 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: to rue the day she was right behind him because 706 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: she's going to be pushing him, right if he's speaker. 707 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: That's the truth suit. Jeanne Chanzano, thank you, Adam Goodman, 708 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: thank you a great panel and a great conversation today 709 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: on the fastest hour in politics. I'll meet you back 710 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: here tomorrow. They say it's gonna be Friday. This is 711 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg