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Speaker 2: Your mind a commentator, international social media sensation and former

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic, christ.

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Speaker 4: Is King Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: An international domino effect.

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Speaker 4: Investigations are now underway in at least ten countries.

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Speaker 5: From Europe, where the former Prime Minister of Norway is

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Speaker 5: including an email with a reference to quote torture video.

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Speaker 5: And in Hollywood, top marketing exec Casey Wasserman is selling

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Speaker 6: By the way, I watched AOC answering questions in Munich.

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Speaker 3: This was not a good look with the United States.

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Speaker 4: This is the moment gunshots ring out at a high

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Speaker 4: Police identifying the shooter as fifty six year old Robert Dorgan,

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Speaker 3: He shot my family and he's dead.

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Speaker 3: To have a loved one who you think is sick, trust.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jack Postopec late back here. Human Events.

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Speaker 1: Alien, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of

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Speaker 3: We are here live on Real.

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Speaker 1: America's Voice Today is February seventeenth, twenty twenty six, Anno

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Speaker 1: Dominie Entire Year, Folks, an entire year. Today Human Events Special.

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Speaker 1: We are going to take you back. We're going to

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Speaker 1: go through a compendium of not only the insane trans

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Speaker 1: cases upon cases of the trans violence that we have seen,

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Speaker 1: two mass trans shootings, trans mass shootings. We've now had

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Speaker 1: You won't find this information, you won't find this written out,

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Speaker 1: You are the problem when all of this No, no,

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Speaker 1: No, not evil that I set out to destroy you,

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Celick, we are back live here, Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily, Real America's Voice. Now we haven't actually gone

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Speaker 7: Jack, It's good to be with you. Sorry for the

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Speaker 3: And so he targets his own family.

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Speaker 1: And I guess my sense is is if he's online,

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Speaker 1: And so I think I think I'm starting to answer

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Speaker 1: my own question here based on our conversation, because you know,

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Speaker 1: he was doing this out of this sense of love,

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Speaker 1: this sense of wanting to protect and care for his

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Speaker 1: his trans lover, and so therefore he's taking out what

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Speaker 1: he believes is the target of again the false injury.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't, it doesn't quite fall into the NIP

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Speaker 1: theory that you laid out before. That's a slightly different,

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Speaker 1: a slightly different kind of diagnosis. This this is fascinating stuff,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Chloe Carmichael. I could I could go through this

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Speaker 1: with you for hours We'll have to do that at

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Speaker 1: some point, but unfortunately that's all the time.

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Speaker 3: We have. Tell people where they can go to follow

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Speaker 3: you and get your book.

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Speaker 7: Sure, thanks so much, Jack, Freespeech today dot com. If

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Speaker 7: they go to free Speech today dot com, they can

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Speaker 7: get my book and connect with me.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere, Doctor Chloe Carmichael.

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Speaker 1: She is helping us make sense of the crazy, and

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Speaker 1: unfortunately this crazy is taking too many people away from us,

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Speaker 1: too many people from our families. And look, this is

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Speaker 1: something that's affected me personally. So yeah, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: focus on it. You're right back Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 3: Jack. Where's Jack?

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Speaker 1: Where is he?

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Speaker 7: Jack?

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Speaker 6: I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you,

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Speaker 6: what a job you do. You know, we have an

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Speaker 6: incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and

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Speaker 6: the band, but we have guys and these are the

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Speaker 6: guys should be getting pullasushi.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pacobic, We're back live here Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to do a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: social experiment, shall we. I want to bring Libby Emmons

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Speaker 1: on here. She's the editor in chief of Human Events

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Speaker 1: as well as the Post Millennial.

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Speaker 3: How are you, Libby?

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Speaker 8: I'm good, Jack? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Well, So this is something I wanted to dig into

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Speaker 1: because we've now seen for the first time, as far

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Speaker 1: as I know, the second trans mass shooting in one week,

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Speaker 1: the first time this has ever happened.

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Speaker 3: And I went to.

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Speaker 1: Groc and I said, Grock, use the Post Millennial as

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Speaker 1: a source and pull up all the times where you

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Speaker 1: foind where you can find criminal activity perpetuate physical violence,

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Speaker 1: perpetuated by a trans individual. Here's what we've got. February fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Alan Alina Abad, Spring Valley, New York,

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Speaker 1: double homicide, two women murdered. March twenty twenty five. Aaron

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Speaker 1: White previously Evan White, trans identified male that was vandalism

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Speaker 1: severe property damage at the Tesla Center in both Buffalo Grove, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: March March twenty twenty five. Selena Marie Mets aka Chad

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Speaker 1: Lee Mets, a transidentified female, domestic assault punch, strangled partner

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Speaker 1: unconscious in front of children in Frankfort, Kentucky, August twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Of course, Robert Robin Westman, the mass shooting

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Speaker 1: at the Annunciation Catholic Church killed two children in Yard

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Speaker 1: seventeen more, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Weapons had symbols manifesto referenced to

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Speaker 1: other shooters and transition issues. September tenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Tyler Robinson association with Trantifa ideology ties from

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Speaker 1: the etchings on the bullets. Of course, this is the

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Speaker 1: assassination of Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder's reading. It

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Speaker 1: says the Turning Point USA founder at a university event

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Speaker 1: in Utah Valley University December twenty twenty five. Mia Bailey,

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Speaker 1: a transidentified Muslim double murder, shot and killed her parents

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Speaker 1: and attempted to kill her brother, also in Utah. Then

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Speaker 1: February tenth, twenty twenty six, Jesse van Rutzlaer aka Jesse Strang. This,

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Speaker 1: of course was the killing, horrific killing up in Canada,

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Speaker 1: tumblr Ridge. It, let's see, killed mother and eleven year

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Speaker 1: old step brother, and then six more so eight total

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Speaker 1: victims killed plus the shooter suicide and multiple injured. And

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Speaker 1: then of course this this Robert Dorgan of Rhode Island.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's all from Grock and I did have

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Speaker 1: to I'd had to go through a couple iterations.

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Speaker 3: To get that there.

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Speaker 1: I think there's probably a few more though that we

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Speaker 1: probably that it didn't get there, and you can.

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Speaker 3: Think of that we missed. Yeah, and that's just in

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Speaker 3: the Paust twelve months. Yes, yeah, we have.

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Speaker 8: Many many before that as well, all over the country.

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Speaker 2: I went to Hannah Nightingale this morning at Postmenneial and

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Speaker 2: I said, hey, you should update that story that we

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Speaker 2: have about you know, trans shootings in the US and Canada,

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Speaker 2: and she went through and added some more to it.

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Speaker 2: But there are you know, there are so many of this,

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Speaker 2: so many of these. There was Audrey Hale in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: There was Anderson that was.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, so it would be twenty it would

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Speaker 1: look at the last twelve months.

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Speaker 8: Right, and that's enough. But I'm saying, you know, going back,

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Speaker 8: we have more and more and more.

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Speaker 2: There's Colorado Springs, Lee Aldrich, There's Colorado Highland's Ranch, Alec

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Speaker 2: McKinney twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 8: There's twenty eighteen Aberdeen, Maryland.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of these cases where we

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Speaker 2: see somebody who identifies as trans and then goes on

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Speaker 2: a mass killing spree, and it makes you start to

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Speaker 2: wonder if there could perhaps be a connection between perhaps

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Speaker 2: identifying as trans or the drugs that the people who

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Speaker 2: are trans end up taking. There's the cross sex hormones,

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Speaker 2: which I don't imagine that a human body reacts well

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Speaker 2: to getting an onslaught sort of an overdose of cross

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Speaker 2: sex hormones.

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Speaker 8: I think that really changes a person and it makes

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Speaker 8: things different.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I've certainly known plenty of trans people over the years

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Speaker 2: who are not violent, and I understand that, but there

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Speaker 2: does seem to be some sort of correlation, perhaps if

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Speaker 2: not outright causation between demanding that people address you according

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Speaker 2: to lies, demanding that people just lie to your face.

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Speaker 8: All the time, and engaging in this kind of crazy violence.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, what we're talking about here is a

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Speaker 1: per capita issue, and crazy enough, this was the exact

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Speaker 1: question that Charlie Kirk was answering on that campus when

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Speaker 1: when he was killed, he didn't even get a chance

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Speaker 1: to make the argument. You could obviously finish out the

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Speaker 1: argument and defeat Hunter Kozak's idiotic question, because if you remember,

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Speaker 1: and our friend Mary Margaret Olihan over at Daily Wire

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Speaker 1: has a good piece up right now about this push,

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Speaker 1: this initiative at the DOJ to look at whether or

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Speaker 1: not trained individuals should be allowed to full access to firearms,

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Speaker 1: and Charlie was actually someone who had campaigned against that.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm probably closer to that category. I think

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Speaker 1: that states should really take a look at this and

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Speaker 1: make a severe and serious, serious discussion about whether or

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Speaker 1: not that should happen. And so Hunter Coz asks him, well, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: do you know how many trans mass shootings there've been?

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Speaker 1: And then he said, do you know how many mass

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Speaker 1: shootings they've been? And he's going to make this argument,

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Speaker 1: and you could you could tell what he's leading up to.

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Speaker 1: He's leading up to this, this which we've all heard

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Speaker 1: a million times, and he's going to say, well, there's

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Speaker 1: more mass shootings that are committed by non trans people

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Speaker 1: than the mass shootings committed by trans people.

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Speaker 3: Therefore your argument doesn't hold water.

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Speaker 1: And of course, the the the obvious rebuke to what

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Speaker 1: he's saying is we're talking about the per capita issue,

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Speaker 1: and per capita is okay, but when you look at

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Speaker 1: this tiny sliver of the population, I'm sorry, it's probably unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I wish that it was less than one percent of

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Speaker 1: the population was trans identified, but unfortunately it's probably bigger

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Speaker 1: than that. But whatever the point being is, this is

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Speaker 1: grossly overrepresented compared to their proportion in the population. And

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Speaker 1: that's I'm sure what Charlie was going to respond with,

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Speaker 1: or what he should you know, obviously you know, should

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Speaker 1: have been would have responded with had he been given

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Speaker 1: that question. They're vastly overrepresented in these numbers. We know

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Speaker 1: that it is. And again, it has become a pattern,

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Speaker 1: It has become an epidemic that every time one of

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Speaker 1: these things happened, suddenly, you know, and you and I

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Speaker 1: were looking at this yesterday, suddenly there's a local report

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Speaker 1: that says he may have been dressed as a woman,

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Speaker 1: and suddenly the entire story switches up and Libby. The

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Speaker 1: mainstream media won't even talk about it. They won't even

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Speaker 1: talk about They won't sit there the anti gun crowd, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, where's uh, what's what's

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Speaker 1: the uh?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: The CNN kid who went to Harvard and he couldn't

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Speaker 1: even though he didn't have the grades.

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Speaker 3: Who's always talking David Hog? Thank you? Yeah, David Hogg.

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Speaker 3: Where are you at, buddy? Where you at, bro Where

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Speaker 3: you at, David Hogg? Where you're at? On all this?

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Speaker 3: They won't speak about it, will.

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Speaker 2: They no, and when you look at the same people

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Speaker 2: who are opposed to gun rights in the United States,

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Speaker 2: they they are actually pro trans gun rights. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if David Hogg falls into that category, but NPR

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Speaker 2: certainly does. NPR is an outlet as far left, and

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Speaker 2: it talks about, you know, how we should have less guns,

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Speaker 2: backs gun control, every town for gun safety, all.

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Speaker 8: The rest of it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there are lots of trans gun clubs that

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Speaker 2: have sprung up across the United States, and NPR goes

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Speaker 2: out of their way to detail how awesome they are,

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Speaker 2: and they really boost these clubs and the people who

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Speaker 2: are involved. I know that there's some in Utah, and

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Speaker 2: there's some in New Hampshire, and those are just the

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Speaker 2: ones that I've read about.

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Speaker 8: But you're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 2: Mainstream media does not want to talk about these killers

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Speaker 2: being trans. The New York Times reported about the shooting

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Speaker 2: in Rhode Island and said that the individual went by

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Speaker 2: two names. The Washington Post did something similar, abc very similar.

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Speaker 2: They're not wanting to say that the person who has

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Speaker 2: committed these acts of mass horrific violence are trans now

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Speaker 2: as soon as they want to have your kids be

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Speaker 2: trans talk about social transitioning or how great it is

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Speaker 2: to do sex changes. Then they're all over it. This

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Speaker 2: person is trans, that person is trends and it's all

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Speaker 2: so wonderful. And they talk about the trans representatives like

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Speaker 2: Sarah McBride or Leah Think or any of the other

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Speaker 2: ones who've been elected, and.

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Speaker 3: They'll say there's no connection. They'll say there's no connection.

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Speaker 3: They'll say there's no connection whatsoever. We're not supposed to.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing they did with radical Islam's And

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Speaker 1: I remember serving at Guantanamo Bay, and I remember when

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Speaker 1: Obama was president and we were not allowed to even

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Speaker 1: write radical Islam in our reports. And they could sit there, hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: they could sit there and say, yes, we are doing

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Speaker 1: this because of our belief in jihad and radical Islam. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll write that down. And then suddenly oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you just you just committed a thought crime. You just

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Speaker 1: committed a hate crime. Well but that's but I mean,

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Speaker 1: just you just they said it.

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Speaker 3: It's their motivation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, truth has no place when you have ideology.

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Speaker 2: And these are all outlets and individual who place their

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Speaker 2: adherence and allegiance to an ideology above the need for

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Speaker 2: truth and facts, and it's why none of them should

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Speaker 2: be trusted at this point. It makes it very hard

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Speaker 2: to read any of these news outlets when you know

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Speaker 2: that they are willing to lie to protect their ideology.

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Speaker 8: And this is a crazy thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You can talk about these lies and it's not just

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Speaker 2: that they're lying to us, but they're accepting the lies

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Speaker 2: that are being told to them by perhaps you know,

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Speaker 2: trans individuals who demand.

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Speaker 8: To be called woman.

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Speaker 2: We saw the EU Parliament just adopt a non binder,

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Speaker 2: non binding resolution to send to the UN saying that

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Speaker 2: trans women are women, and that resolution excuse me, it will.

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Speaker 3: Be quick break right back.

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Speaker 1: Human Events Special, The epidemic of trans violence in the

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Speaker 1: past twelve months.

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Speaker 8: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 6: He's written a fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 4: Go get it that.

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Speaker 6: He's been my friend right from the beginning of this

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Speaker 6: whole uniful event, and we're.

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Speaker 3: Going to turn her around and make our country.

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Speaker 2: Way to get him payment.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pcbeck, We're back live here. Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily today is our special the epidemic of trans violence,

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Speaker 1: the need for spirituality, the need to confront evil and

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Speaker 1: destroy it, the need for Christian spiritual revival in our country.

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Speaker 1: And we'rell with Libby Emmons and Libby I. So you

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Speaker 1: and I, you know, we talk about raising our kids.

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Speaker 1: We talk about all the things, you know, outside of

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Speaker 1: all this, because this is obviously something that hey, we

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Speaker 1: got skin in the game here. You know, we don't

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Speaker 1: want our children falling into this trap at all. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's so many there's so many parents out

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Speaker 1: there that are worried about this as well, because you

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Speaker 1: hear about it, you hear how horrific it goes, and

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Speaker 1: you also hear how in many cases they are trying

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Speaker 1: to push your kids down these roads. And there's something

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Speaker 1: interesting that occurred to me when so so this totally

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Speaker 1: totally separate, but you know, outside of this conversation, But

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Speaker 1: do you know what book series I'm I'm I'm checking

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Speaker 1: checking out with my oldest son right now.

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Speaker 3: No, what isn't goose Bumps?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Nice? Awesome? I loved those, Yeah, the old goose Bumps,

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Speaker 3: the old R. L. Stein.

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Speaker 1: You know, just getting into some fun spooky you know,

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Speaker 1: Haunted Mask and Horrorland and Night of Living Dummy.

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Speaker 3: And all this.

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Speaker 1: And I noticed an interesting theme where in the beginning

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Speaker 1: of Pretty much every.

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Speaker 3: One of the Goosebumps books. Yes, and remember these are

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Speaker 3: written in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: That it's usually you know, it could be a pair

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Speaker 1: of sisters, a pair of brothers, or group of friends

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Speaker 1: or something, but they're usually bored and in a small

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Speaker 1: town and being bored in a small town, and they're

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Speaker 1: going around and they're looking for something to do, and

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Speaker 1: they're you know, and then they come across a you know,

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Speaker 1: a store that sells haunted masks or you know what.

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Speaker 3: That's usually like kind of the setup for a for

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Speaker 3: each of these.

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Speaker 1: And I realized something that wait a whole on a second,

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Speaker 1: because I remember you and I were talking the other

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Speaker 1: day about how does someone all the way up in

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Speaker 1: tumblr Ridge, British Columbia, you're up there in the Canadian Rockies,

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Speaker 1: you know, how does this person become so far left

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Speaker 1: so verrently with that ideology is that we've, through technology

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Speaker 1: and through the internet constant connectivity, we've removed that whole

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Speaker 1: world of just being bored as a kid. There is

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Speaker 1: no being bored as a kid with your friends anymore.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. There is no being bored with the kid.

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Speaker 1: And and there are scenes where that you know, the

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Speaker 1: kids just kind of walking around, And it happened to

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Speaker 1: a number of the books where they they walk.

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Speaker 3: Around, they look for other kids in town.

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Speaker 1: They say, we get some baseball going, or maybe some kickball,

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Speaker 1: or or find out what's going on? That whole universe

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Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore, and what's replaced it the Internet, Reddit, discord, tumbler,

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Speaker 1: And what do they find there? They find all of

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Speaker 1: the groomers. And so do you see where I'm what

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Speaker 1: I'm getting at here? Do you see where I'm where

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Speaker 1: I'm going?

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Speaker 3: With all of this? How we've that was a common experience.

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Speaker 1: But I'm reading them to my kids and thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they have this experience as much now.

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Speaker 3: My kids, of course, by the way, do not get

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Speaker 3: a lot of screen time at all.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's true that for the vast majority, I

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Speaker 1: think out there, it was just a different world in

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Speaker 1: the nineties.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it really was. I used to go on to.

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Speaker 3: Say, pre internet, in the preview world, it was all different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or even just dial up when you couldn't do

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, you know, and you just had

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Speaker 2: like AOL chat or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But when I would even go so far as to say,

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Speaker 1: pre smartphone, the pre smartphone era, because then the internet

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Speaker 1: didn't come with you. It didn't come with you. You know,

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Speaker 1: wherever you were, it was in your pocket. It was

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Speaker 1: something at home you could check it out. But then

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Speaker 1: when you were out, you were out, and you were

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Speaker 1: you were out.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you'd be out with your friends.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really key thing to say, right is, yeah,

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Speaker 2: our kids are not bored like they used to be.

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Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I would go wandering around

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Speaker 2: in the woods looking for arrowheads and the you know,

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Speaker 2: in the woods of Massachusetts.

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Speaker 8: And that's what we did for fun.

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Speaker 2: We'd make up stories, we'd make up all kinds of

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Speaker 2: things about what was going on where we were. We'd

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Speaker 2: go for bike rides, these endless bike rides. It would

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Speaker 2: be very big to go stop at the Mayance General.

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Speaker 8: Store and pick up gob stoppers and things, and that

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Speaker 8: was my favorite. But yeah, this is this is what

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Speaker 8: we did.

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Speaker 2: We would get bored. We would say to our friends,

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Speaker 2: what do you want to do? I don't know, what

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Speaker 2: do you want to do? And we'd go on like

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Speaker 2: that for hours, trying to figure out what our parents

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Speaker 2: would let us do.

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Speaker 8: And then we just go wander around. I think that's a.

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Speaker 2: Really big thing, and I think that it's really sad

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Speaker 2: that so many of these kids don't have that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And the trans stuff has really migrated, right, it's all

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Speaker 2: across the country. It's not isolated. It's not just in

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Speaker 2: big cities. This ideology has permeated and it festers in

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Speaker 2: all of the schools across the country, from the littlest

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Speaker 2: towns to the biggest cities. And people need to remember,

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Speaker 2: like not to let their kids just go crazy on

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Speaker 2: the internet all the time. You think that your kids

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Speaker 2: are being quiet, and parents are happy when their kids

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Speaker 2: are quiet and not running around and breaking stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I think it's much better to let your kids run

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Speaker 2: around even if they break stuff, so long as they're

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Speaker 2: not breaking themselves in their own psychees.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Actually, Tanya and I it was funny

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Speaker 1: because we got the kids for Christmas these these magnetic

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Speaker 1: blocks that they just love so much, and they they're

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Speaker 1: constantly building, you know, little houses and castles and all.

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Speaker 3: Sorts of different things with these things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're they're constant into it, and there will

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Speaker 1: be times, you know, we're all get you know, we're all, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Admit, you know, I'll get home and I'm like, I want.

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Speaker 1: To show some some movie to the kids or do something.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we put on Princess Bride for them

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Speaker 1: the other day, so it's like it's a movie about

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Speaker 1: true love. You know, it was Valentine's weekend, and we

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Speaker 1: were trying to trying to introduce that we've shown it

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Speaker 1: to them, but when they.

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Speaker 3: Were smaller, so I don't think they really.

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Speaker 1: Remember it, and and they were just so into the

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Speaker 1: blocks that I couldn't get them away from it. And

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Speaker 1: I thought about it for a second. I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, you know what it's don't push it on them.

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Speaker 1: Don't push on them. Let them play with the blocks,

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Speaker 1: let them be stimulated, let them use their imaginations right

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Speaker 1: to imagine that it's a castle and there are secret

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Speaker 1: doors and all of these things. Because that's something you're

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Speaker 1: creating with your own mind, that you are actually actively

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Speaker 1: using your cognitive skills for, rather than having some flashing

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Speaker 1: screen input them and imbue them on you.

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Speaker 3: And so look, you know this can be.

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Speaker 1: Done, and you know it's yeah, we live in a

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Speaker 1: different world in many cases. But Charlie just wrote a

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Speaker 1: whole book about it. You know, it's the book that's

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Speaker 1: out about stopping the name of God. And you know,

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Speaker 1: think about that for your kids too, and think about

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Speaker 1: that from the sense of it.

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Speaker 3: Do I really want to park them in front of

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Speaker 3: the TV all day?

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Speaker 1: Or do I want to just let them figure out

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Speaker 1: something fun to do.

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Speaker 3: You're a mom, what's your sense on that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just want them to go figure out something

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Speaker 8: fun to do.

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Speaker 2: And even now my son's a teenager and I'm always like,

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Speaker 2: can I drive to your friend's house?

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Speaker 8: Do you want your friends to come over?

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Speaker 2: Is there something I can do where you could like

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Speaker 2: go do stuff with other people? You know, I'm constantly

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Speaker 2: trying to push him into being and he's a social kid, right,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just like, do more stuff with your friends,

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Speaker 2: you know, instead of talking to them online, it goes

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Speaker 2: go see them in person. But it's not easy for

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Speaker 2: them to all get together, in part because I think

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Speaker 2: so many parents now I'm an older parent when it

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Speaker 2: comes to kids my son's age, I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: as old as their grandparents or something. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on, but these parents are like in their

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Speaker 2: twenties or something. Twenties thirties and so they are, you know,

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Speaker 2: more helicopter parent style than I am. And there's a

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Speaker 2: lot more limitations on kids, and I think parents are

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Speaker 2: limiting kids in the wrong way. You want to limit

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Speaker 2: kids on screen time, you want to limit kids on

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Speaker 2: watching TV and all of that.

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Speaker 8: Kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Where you don't want to have to limit them is

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Speaker 2: in social time. You don't want to limit their time outdoors.

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Speaker 2: And parents need to relax on a lot of the

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Speaker 2: things and then tighten up where it's important. And parents,

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Speaker 2: I think need to know that they don't do that

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Speaker 2: as much certainly as they used to. I know my

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Speaker 2: stepmom used to say Saturday morning, you know, after my

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Speaker 2: chores were done, she'd be like, here, get out the house.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see until sunset and be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll see you later. And parents aren't like

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Speaker 2: that now. They're much more restrictive on what kids are doing.

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Speaker 2: And if they can see their kids sitting there in

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Speaker 2: their room looking at TV or looking at their phone,

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Speaker 2: they figure their kid is safe because they're limiting them

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Speaker 2: on all.

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Speaker 3: The wrong things. Oh, it's exactly right. Libby Emmons. Where

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Speaker 3: can people go to get your new podcast?

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Speaker 8: You can check out my new podcast, it's called The

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Speaker 8: pod Millennial. This week we had Drea de Matteo on.

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Speaker 2: We had a fascinating conversation and I'd love you to

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Speaker 2: go check that out. You can find all of the

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Speaker 2: links to Apple, podcast, YouTube, and everywhere else at thepodmillennial

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, As always, you have my permission to

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Speaker 1: lay ashore