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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, I may have been on vacation for
Speaker 1: three or four days in Florida, but I was keeping
Speaker 1: my antenna up for all the NFL news. So John Middlecoff,
Speaker 1: the former NFL scout, got the three and Out podcast.
Speaker 1: At the volume, we're going to talk about the Bears
Speaker 1: move with the Panthers. I cannot believe the Bears not
Speaker 1: only got the picks, but DJ Moore, a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that he is a really he's a
Speaker 1: number one. So the Bears now have a legitimate receiving
Speaker 1: corps and don't have to pay a lot of attention
Speaker 1: to that with all their extra draft picks. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about, obviously, the Lamar Jackson situation, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: potentially to the Jets, the Rams giving away Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: and what appears to be a cash dump right before
Speaker 1: free agency that leads me to believe the Rams are
Speaker 1: eyeing somebody in free agency. A lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: John middlecoff as all was full of insight. Let's go
Speaker 1: to it here with my main man, Colin Coward. Right
Speaker 1: as free agency, let's face it. I mean, it really
Speaker 1: kind of starts at the combine when they're not supposed
Speaker 1: to t for all the deals are done, but over
Speaker 1: the next three or four days the madness is. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's already started with the couple trades that happen over
Speaker 1: the weekend. But I think it's time to buckle up here, Colin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jalen Ramsey move, a third and basically a bust
Speaker 1: tied end from the Dolphins who does doesn't play much.
Speaker 1: Is that's not nearly I'm not sure why they were
Speaker 1: so impatient. It feels like a salary dump. They're trying
Speaker 1: to clear something up to make a big move in
Speaker 1: free agency. That's it. That's what it felt like to me. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think Jalen Ramsey's ever been a guy you
Speaker 1: build a culture around at Florida State, Jacksonville or LA.
Speaker 1: He's just really talented. But I think the guys that
Speaker 1: you build a culture around, like Aaron Donald Are Cooper
Speaker 1: cup are harder to get rid of. Talent comes and goes,
Speaker 1: and so I think Jayalen's really talented. He's he had
Speaker 1: a very good last game with the Rams and interception.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure if it was the best
Speaker 1: place for the Dolphin to spend money. They already have
Speaker 1: a corner people like, but their secondary's not very strong.
Speaker 1: They're all in, yeah, But but for the Rams, it
Speaker 1: just felt like they're starting over. You know, they've got
Speaker 1: four sevens, four or fives. They now have a second,
Speaker 1: two thirds. They don't have a first or a fourth yet,
Speaker 1: so they got twelve draft picks. They're kind of rebuilding
Speaker 1: this puppy. Before we dive into my theory on the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and why, I think I think this might be
Speaker 1: leading to something. One thing on McVeigh is, you know,
Speaker 1: the knock on Gruden over his ten year as coaching,
Speaker 1: was very impatient. You know, changes on you fast. Lebron
Speaker 1: has some of that, and you know he loves a
Speaker 1: guy that he starts playing with him any sours on him,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't have the theory that they're going
Speaker 1: to tank because McVeigh almost jumped off a bridge last
Speaker 1: year losing a little bit. He's not going to coach
Speaker 1: a season and suck and he's too good to ever
Speaker 1: probably get the top two or three picks, especially next
Speaker 1: year with the with the quarterbacks. But you know he
Speaker 1: loved Matt Stafford to years ago. They traded for him,
Speaker 1: then they extend him. Now he's banged up and it
Speaker 1: feels like, oh they might trade him or that they
Speaker 1: would definitely listen to it. Well, so he was good
Speaker 1: enough to give all this money too, and a year
Speaker 1: later things get weird. I'm Sean McVeigh guy, but it
Speaker 1: does feel he's got a little grudin in him that
Speaker 1: he'll change on you fast once he thinks you're not
Speaker 1: as good as he maybe thought six months previously. So
Speaker 1: I was told a month ago and I have set
Speaker 1: it on the air at Fox. I was told a
Speaker 1: month ago that the Rams were gonna go heavy this
Speaker 1: offseason to the offense. McVeigh would come back if there
Speaker 1: was a commitment to I'm an offensive coach. The league's
Speaker 1: pivoted to that. Give me guys. So who did they
Speaker 1: get rid of? Bobby Wagner, Jayalen, Ramsey, Floyd. They've moved
Speaker 1: off defensive guys. So they're gonna draft. They have a
Speaker 1: second two thirds. They're probably gonna go after an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. They may go out for a running back.
Speaker 1: Mcphay's like, listen, if I'm going to come back for
Speaker 1: this thing and have to face the Niners, you gotta
Speaker 1: get me some weapons. You gotta get me some on
Speaker 1: the offensive side. I mean, of all the people in
Speaker 1: the Ramsey trade, they got like a third string tight end.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought I would have thought they would
Speaker 1: have gone to a backup edge because they don't really
Speaker 1: have an edge rusher. But you know, I listen, McVeigh
Speaker 1: had a lot of success early. People that do off
Speaker 1: and get impatient, they haven't had the long road, the
Speaker 1: struggle like the rest of us, right, so you know,
Speaker 1: I get it. You probably see that in tech. You
Speaker 1: see it in football that you probably see it in
Speaker 1: Hollywood when somebody hits it at twenty eight, thirty two
Speaker 1: years old. Man, your standards and impatience rise. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: I think over the weekend or maybe late last week,
Speaker 1: they picked up two a fifth year option. I thought
Speaker 1: that was nuts, you know, given his risk history. But
Speaker 1: then when they made this trade, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I think you had mentioned last week and it's come
Speaker 1: out since you know the Brady buzz is not going
Speaker 1: to die. Well, what did they do? They get Vick Fanji,
Speaker 1: They add Jalen Ramsey. They kind of had their backup
Speaker 1: plan long term, just keep two under contract. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and coming to San Jose. It's just not happening, right,
Speaker 1: But Miami, he's already he's getting the taste of the
Speaker 1: life in Florida now for a couple of years, the
Speaker 1: no state income tax. I think the Dolphins buzz is
Speaker 1: about to pick up, and they're equipped. I mean now
Speaker 1: that their defense was a question mark boom at a
Speaker 1: star corner. You know, add Vic Fangio. I mean that's
Speaker 1: this team. You see that that clip of Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: running dusting those guys in the in the six eight
Speaker 1: meter dash. So you're the one that I think I
Speaker 1: saw a clip of you saying that the Tom Brady thing, Well,
Speaker 1: people are it's not gonna die. Yeah, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so Tom, it's not like you know, he's single now,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna He's not gonna broadcast at Fox. He's
Speaker 1: gonna sit around for a year, just watch football. Tom's connected,
Speaker 1: Um And I just think, you know, people say, oh,
Speaker 1: you spend more time with your family. Kids after a
Speaker 1: while don't want to hang out with mom and dad.
Speaker 1: They want to hang out with their kids, their peers. Right.
Speaker 1: So I think Brady um hill step he work six
Speaker 1: months a year. I mean he gets six months with
Speaker 1: his family, I know. And whenever you hear you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go spend time with my family. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, guys get off days even in the season.
Speaker 1: You know you're not You're not at the facility all day.
Speaker 1: So I think if you have a popular player Tebow
Speaker 1: in Denver and they brought in Peyton Manning, you gotta
Speaker 1: go big. Nobody's gonna question Brady fills in for Tua
Speaker 1: or Peyton Manning for Tebow, because Tua will have success
Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniels. Hell, he was leading in the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl voting last year, right, So I don't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Tom Brady. I don't have it sourced,
Speaker 1: but I did have somebody I trust out of the building,
Speaker 1: not a Fox employee, say he may play football, So
Speaker 1: you know it was somebody who's smart, somebody I've trusted
Speaker 1: for years. So he obviously heard it somewhere. But I
Speaker 1: said this a year ago, and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I thought Aaron Rodgers in Miami made sense. I really did. Again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a big star because TWA's got his fans too, was
Speaker 1: going to have success. Nobody's complaining about Rodgers or Brady
Speaker 1: in Miami, and I think sometimes when you replace a
Speaker 1: popular I mean, let's face it, last year, up until Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were one of the better stories in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah they really were speaking of Not a good story
Speaker 1: last year was obviously the Aaron Rodgers and the Packers
Speaker 1: who underachieved and missed the playoffs. Feels inevitable that Vide
Speaker 1: ends up on the Jets. My overall take is one
Speaker 1: they don't really have any other options. Jimmy Garoppolo gets
Speaker 1: hurt all the time. Derek Carr signed with the Saints. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy they drafted number two overall. He just stinks
Speaker 1: he's just not any good. So as we're recording this,
Speaker 1: we don't know the parameters of the trade. Clearly they
Speaker 1: already had figured out something. They even let him talk.
Speaker 1: If they don't have to give up a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's one of the easiest deals
Speaker 1: they'll ever do. Yeah, I think Aaron. You know, the
Speaker 1: Jets would be better with Aaron. But if I'm Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and I line everything up, what matters to me?
Speaker 1: Coach Matt Lafleur, offensive coach or Robert Solid defensive coach,
Speaker 1: check packers, offensive line, check packers. Weapons Well, Bruce Hall's talented,
Speaker 1: but he's often injury. Aaron Jones emerging star at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: capable tight ends the power back behind Aaron Jones. It's
Speaker 1: like weapons. Probably slight lean Green Bay, familiarity, Green Bay,
Speaker 1: ease of division and conference check check green Bay, green Bay.
Speaker 1: This site. I don't know where the advantages are. I've
Speaker 1: got impulsive ownership, a coach, a defensive coach on the
Speaker 1: hot seat. They still have to their offensive line had
Speaker 1: some injuries last year, So I don't think it's it's
Speaker 1: not the Giants, right. If the Jets have some talent,
Speaker 1: they'll get it back. It'll be healthier. But you know
Speaker 1: they're counting on a lot of young players, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's just Green Bay's got some familiar faces. I
Speaker 1: know everybody has already got a pencil. Then it's the Jets.
Speaker 1: But I could see Aaron just saying, I'm coming back
Speaker 1: for one more year and then I'm retiring. I'm going
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. The one thing with the Jets is
Speaker 1: last year, you know, he loves his older players and
Speaker 1: it took a while for Watson to get going. It
Speaker 1: took a while, you know. Just this team is full
Speaker 1: of young offensive weapons. So is Aaron going to show
Speaker 1: up in April? Is he gonna come to OTAs? Am
Speaker 1: I paying your sixty million dollars? Can you mesh with
Speaker 1: my guys? Can you kind of be a member here
Speaker 1: and not kind of isolate yourself. That would be something
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they have, you know, reached out because
Speaker 1: you can't make this trade. If he's just going to
Speaker 1: show up July twenty eighth, I'm gonna start training camp right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just I think they'd be good. Colin though,
Speaker 1: if he is all in, I mean he won back
Speaker 1: to back MVP's. This team israel talented. You're right, the
Speaker 1: head coach major question mark. But the head coach has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the offense, and the offense is
Speaker 1: his guy. Now can that guy coach the offense? It's
Speaker 1: it's hard to know. You know it rocky with Nathaniel Hackett,
Speaker 1: but that is you know, a driving forces relationship with
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, I mean, but you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of firepower in Miami Mac Jones. Nett has Bill O'Brien,
Speaker 1: best defensive coaching Bill O'Brien. Buffalo is still a pretty
Speaker 1: stack roster outside of offensive line. So you don't get
Speaker 1: the Bears twice, you know, you don't get it's you know,
Speaker 1: I like Detroit, but Detroit didn't make the playoffs either,
Speaker 1: so you know, and I we're pinning a lot of
Speaker 1: our hopes on Ben Johnson. You know, a coordinator, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think if I was Aaron, I would
Speaker 1: just stick it out with Green Bay one more year.
Speaker 1: No owner, I got control of the place. Familiarity. Christian
Speaker 1: Watson at the end of the year was really emerging
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Speaker 1: that happened last week was the Giants spending a lot
Speaker 1: of money on Daniel Jones and Night Listen. I lived
Speaker 1: in Philly and you've been in the Northeast. The pressure
Speaker 1: in Boston, in New York and Philadelphia is difficult, So
Speaker 1: having guys that can handle that Daniel Jones has this
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith like quality of just pretty mentally tough,
Speaker 1: pretty through fifteen touchdowns last year, and they gave him
Speaker 1: eighty two million dollars. Now, I get you want to
Speaker 1: retain him and the best thing is to franchise Saquon
Speaker 1: Barkley because you want sake one there, But you don't
Speaker 1: you know, you would love to just go year to
Speaker 1: year running backs, even on the franchise tag ten million
Speaker 1: dollars To take that all day long. I just have
Speaker 1: a hard time thinking that he was going to sniff
Speaker 1: that money on the open market. Who are they bidding against?
Speaker 1: Spat price point? Because in a salary cap league, you're
Speaker 1: guaranteed money impacts how you build your team over a
Speaker 1: couple of years. I thought it was insane. I remember
Speaker 1: having a discussion with an agent. I had left ESPN
Speaker 1: and John Skipper, who's a nice guy, but he was
Speaker 1: paying people seven figures and there were a handful of people,
Speaker 1: and I remember talking to an agent and saying, who
Speaker 1: is he bidding against? These are like hosts. They're capable,
Speaker 1: but they're not like seven figure people. And John was
Speaker 1: just handing out contracts. If you take out two games
Speaker 1: against the worst rated defense in the league, Minnesota. Look
Speaker 1: at Daniel Joe numbers and you can say, well, he
Speaker 1: doesn't work with much Patrick Mahomes with three cast off
Speaker 1: receivers and rookie sky Moore had fifteen touchdown passes by
Speaker 1: week five. Daniel Jones just isn't that talented. So you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the number comes out to, and it's always kind
Speaker 1: of fuzzy math. I think it's in the thirties somewhere,
Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty two, whatever it is, it's still at
Speaker 1: some point is going to limit. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get on draft picks. You know, you're not going to
Speaker 1: be able to go out and get two or three
Speaker 1: offensive player. They have to rebuild the receiving corps, they
Speaker 1: need a tight end, and they have to rebuild outside
Speaker 1: of left tackle, the old line. There's a lot, and
Speaker 1: you can't depend on the draft to fill all those needs.
Speaker 1: You gotta pay for some of it. Well. Part of
Speaker 1: having a star offensive coach, which it looks like they have,
Speaker 1: is you can get value at certain positions, and you
Speaker 1: should be able to find quarterbacks of value. Obviously, if
Speaker 1: you get to Mahomes or whatever, it makes sense even
Speaker 1: for Andy Reid to give a lot of money, But
Speaker 1: Brian Daboll's value is to get guys like Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: to overachieve. Why then pay him, Because again, eighty two
Speaker 1: million dollars, he got ten million dollars more than Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: whose resumes aren't even close to comparable. Right, I thought
Speaker 1: the Saints got an incredible deal. So I was just
Speaker 1: watching before his press conference. They got a grown up
Speaker 1: in the room, a guy who's now coming off a
Speaker 1: rough season, so he's going to be motivated if he
Speaker 1: had been a free agent after the year that they
Speaker 1: had made the playoffs two years ago. He's getting well
Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars right that season that he
Speaker 1: played what he handled with all the adversity. And look
Speaker 1: at that division. I mean it looks like Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: might go to Tampa. Panthers have no quarterback. Whoever they
Speaker 1: draft probably is going to take the league by storm.
Speaker 1: I mean that division is I feel the Saints are
Speaker 1: borderline like lock playoff team next year. Yeah, and going
Speaker 1: back defense is good. Yeah, going back to Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: is when people complain about offensive lines. Justin Herbert walked
Speaker 1: into this league and behind the thirty second rated offensive line,
Speaker 1: had thirty one touchdown passes, and was told he was
Speaker 1: starting five minutes before the game. Remember that opening game
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. Tons of pressure, so you can't use
Speaker 1: If you have great talent, you can play Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: Year two got to a super Bowl or year three
Speaker 1: got to a super Bowl with an awful offensive line.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear about Daniel Jones and
Speaker 1: about offensive line and they say, well, they don't have
Speaker 1: great weapons, you know again, Guys like Mahomes this year
Speaker 1: tasted offs Juju, Smith Schuster tasted off the Packers guy
Speaker 1: passed off Sky Moore, rookie Tony who was considered you know,
Speaker 1: yeah so and he made it work. Great quarterbacks make
Speaker 1: it work. So I think what's happening in Chicago, although
Speaker 1: I do think Justin Fields is more of a there's
Speaker 1: some real talent there that's non infreciable. But I think
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones there's not any wow there for me,
Speaker 1: not a wow arm. He's a big guy that can move,
Speaker 1: but it's not Lamar moving, it's not Kyler m I
Speaker 1: just I just don't see the wow. There's no juice
Speaker 1: to me. I think he's got a really good offensive coach.
Speaker 1: Say Kwan Barkley went down in the first four or
Speaker 1: five weeks. Worst case scenario, what does that offense look like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's they're they're in major trouble. I think sometimes you
Speaker 1: you know that that organization falls in love with humans,
Speaker 1: and you know he's mentally tough. He handled the tough times,
Speaker 1: but you eventually have to play the position. Let's see
Speaker 1: what you want about Kirk Cousins. He can give me
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns a year. He can produce. Obviously Jalen's producing,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's the thing, like I found pretty
Speaker 1: laughable the reaction to the Lamar collusion. No one wants him.
Speaker 1: Last year, to Shaun Watson was given two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars and we all laughed at like that's
Speaker 1: the most insane contract. Only one or two guys in
Speaker 1: the league would do that. This guy wants that contract
Speaker 1: and no one will touch it. Well, we just said
Speaker 1: last year that that contract that he wants is moronic.
Speaker 1: No one would do that. Right, good player, but under
Speaker 1: no circumstances. If I owned a team or ran a team,
Speaker 1: I would trade for the player. If I get him
Speaker 1: for a normal quarterback contract, but I can't pay him
Speaker 1: a guy who's been injured, and it's not he doesn't
Speaker 1: guarantee me anything. He's got one playoff win. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you want guaranteed money, You're not guaranteed to
Speaker 1: play Sunday. Of his last twenty two games, he's missed
Speaker 1: forty percent. He's missed ten. So nobody wants to say
Speaker 1: this because it feels like you're taking a shot at
Speaker 1: Lamar's mom. But he needs an agent. Agents do two things.
Speaker 1: First of all, teams are now taking shots at Lamar
Speaker 1: why because they don't he doesn't have an agent. You
Speaker 1: would never take a shot at a star player because
Speaker 1: he has an agent. And an agent represents lots and
Speaker 1: lots of people, So you don't want to piss off
Speaker 1: an agent because then he'll steer his clients against you
Speaker 1: or away from you. But when you don't have an agent,
Speaker 1: and I've had several of my career, they it's a vest.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit like a protective vest. Is that
Speaker 1: the agent keeps you out of the room with your
Speaker 1: boss so it doesn't get emotional. The agent make sure
Speaker 1: they say nice things about you. A good, powerful agent matters.
Speaker 1: He's using his mom and reportedly now he's doing some
Speaker 1: of it. You know, he's moved her off that. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: I got nope. You know if my mom represented me
Speaker 1: or yours, did they get emotional? Were their sons? So
Speaker 1: I think when he did that, you know, I tried
Speaker 1: to tread lightly and be respectful. You can't have a
Speaker 1: parent be your agent. Come on now. Charles Robinson wrote
Speaker 1: a really good article where he got a lot of
Speaker 1: unnamed people in the league, GMS and agents talking and
Speaker 1: this point, well, listen, Mike mcglinchey's going to sign in
Speaker 1: a couple of days. The owner just gives the GM
Speaker 1: the thumbs up. But when you're doing a contract like
Speaker 1: this two hundred plus million dollars guarantee, that's an owner
Speaker 1: run deal, and these agents go right to the owner.
Speaker 1: This is not the GM and the coach ultimately aren't
Speaker 1: the final say on this one, right like they would
Speaker 1: be with signing a wide receiver or this is the
Speaker 1: biggest contract that team has ever given out in the
Speaker 1: history of the league potentially, So that's coming from the
Speaker 1: owner and he has no direct path to the owner.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's if me and you owned
Speaker 1: a condo for two hundred grand, we could figure out
Speaker 1: how to sell it on our own. If we wanted
Speaker 1: a two hundred million dollar piece of property, we'd probably
Speaker 1: get some representation to help us out on the deal.
Speaker 1: Right right, the amount of money that's on the line
Speaker 1: is too enormous, Like he's a he's at a major disadvantage,
Speaker 1: and the Ravens know it, and that's why they did
Speaker 1: non exclusive tag. They go, we're not even gonna pay
Speaker 1: as much, and we're not worried about people bidding for
Speaker 1: your services because you don't really know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I also think the culture is so strong that between
Speaker 1: the GM, the owner, the roster, the defense, the assistance,
Speaker 1: there's kind of a feeling in Baltimore last year, I mean, shit,
Speaker 1: they went toe to toe with the Bengals twice at
Speaker 1: the end of the year with like third string guys,
Speaker 1: and we're Cincinnati needed a miracle touchdown to win one
Speaker 1: of those games. So I think they look at themselves
Speaker 1: and think, you know, we're really at an a level
Speaker 1: in terms of drafting and developing. If we have to
Speaker 1: go get Max Duggan in the second round, or we
Speaker 1: have to go get somebody we like, we will, So,
Speaker 1: I mean they've won a super Bowl with Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer. They gambled on Lamar Jackson to some degree.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people's thought he wouldn't be great.
Speaker 1: They've been able to find quarterbacks who others bailed on,
Speaker 1: who are different, and they've got success with all of them.
Speaker 1: So I always just sort of trust the Ravens to
Speaker 1: figure it out. Like a ruer in life, you don't
Speaker 1: have to always hire an expert. Hire smart people and
Speaker 1: they'll figure out complex problems. Baltimore is really good at that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of a team that's trying to find their identity,
Speaker 1: that the big trade, that the draft trade that happened,
Speaker 1: I guess would that have been Friday night? On the
Speaker 1: Panther side, this feels like it's Dave Tepper written all
Speaker 1: over it. He's a financial wheeler and dealer. He's getting bored,
Speaker 1: he's getting tired of losing, because that's a lot to
Speaker 1: give up Colin for this. Trevor Lawrence not in this draft,
Speaker 1: you know, and they've even it's been reported they don't
Speaker 1: even know exactly who they're taking. Last time the Niners
Speaker 1: try to do something like that. That's I would not
Speaker 1: operate making a trade without the player that, you know,
Speaker 1: just to figure out two or three guys. This is
Speaker 1: one of those. You know, if Bryce Young hits, then
Speaker 1: it looks like a brilliant move. But I thought Chicago
Speaker 1: essentially solved. You know, people banged on the Chase Claypool move.
Speaker 1: But now the receiving corps is Dj Moore, Cole Commet,
Speaker 1: very capable young tight end, Darnell Mooney a solid two,
Speaker 1: and Chase Claypool, so they don't really have to go
Speaker 1: after a wide receiver in the draft. And they've got
Speaker 1: multiple extra picks so they can attack the interior offensive.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get McGlinchey the right tackle from the Niners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by you know, they drafted some offensive linemanast year. A
Speaker 1: couple of them can play. You know, they could kind
Speaker 1: of go solve their defense, so justin fields doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be in shootouts. But I mean Cole Comet, Mooney, Claypool.
Speaker 1: But Dj Moore was getting a thousand yards of season
Speaker 1: with Kyle Allen, Darnald Baker Mayfield. I couldn't believe. I
Speaker 1: understand given away first in two seconds throwing Dj Moore.
Speaker 1: And by the way, so you draft a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: you just lost your best receiver for him. I didn't
Speaker 1: like that edition. At I would have given you a corner.
Speaker 1: I'd have given you something. I would not have given
Speaker 1: you your best I wouldn't if I'm Caroline, I'm not
Speaker 1: giving you Dj Moore. They just extended him last year,
Speaker 1: so he's under contract for the foreseeable future. I thought,
Speaker 1: this is kudos to Ryan Pace because he can do
Speaker 1: two things. One find out if fields can play now
Speaker 1: he's got weapons, and if he can't, he has the
Speaker 1: Panthers pick. They're probably not going to be great. And
Speaker 1: if his team stinks, they'd have two high picks to
Speaker 1: go up and get one of these quarterbacks next year
Speaker 1: so that they're actually getting the best of both worlds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles, the kid and I did last year. He
Speaker 1: got a corner and a safety to start. He got
Speaker 1: a receiver of Vilas Jones out of Tennessee who played
Speaker 1: at USC. I could have told him he can't track
Speaker 1: the ball. He couldn't at USC could now track the ball.
Speaker 1: So I still don't trust this organization to draft and
Speaker 1: develop offensive players, but I do think what happens after
Speaker 1: that trade, John is now we have clarity. There'll be
Speaker 1: no more excuses. Their running backs are serviceable. Cole comits
Speaker 1: a very nice, young, tied end. Now you have a
Speaker 1: real grown up wide receiver group. They're going to pay
Speaker 1: for a right tackle. Their offensive line last year rated fourteenth.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the Giants, it wasn't thirty second, it was fourteenth,
Speaker 1: and they're going to upgrade it. So it's going to
Speaker 1: be a reasonable offensive line. What it gives you, John,
Speaker 1: now whatever Justin Fields does, this is the truth. He
Speaker 1: has more than enough talent. Now you can't say he
Speaker 1: doesn't have this. This this Claypool, Mooney, DJ Moore are
Speaker 1: three very nice professional wide receivers. See and I think
Speaker 1: on the Panther side, I just wonder if if Tepper
Speaker 1: gets involved on who they ultimately want to pick and
Speaker 1: it's not the coach and not the general manager's decision.
Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young is an elite player. He's just short,
Speaker 1: which you know can be risky. But you know we've
Speaker 1: seen him two years ago play. They played Georgia twice
Speaker 1: in you know, a month and went toe to toe
Speaker 1: with them with a defense full of eleven pros and
Speaker 1: like first round pros. Yeah, but he's just he's just small.
Speaker 1: And you know, Anthony Richardson, I was texting with Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah because Anthony richards I said, what round would those
Speaker 1: guys have gone in when you first broke in the league.
Speaker 1: Guys like Anthony Richardson and Will Levis who are just big,
Speaker 1: physical guys, But you know, I have a long way
Speaker 1: to go. He's like, those guys would have been mid
Speaker 1: round picks. Now both of them are gonna go in
Speaker 1: the top five. So this notion that that position it's
Speaker 1: so nuanced, it's so hard. You can't just draft like
Speaker 1: you can't a defensive tackle and hope he figures it
Speaker 1: out because the time and time they don't and whoever
Speaker 1: they pick has this enormous pressure. I've seen it with
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, all these picks, the whole trade. It just
Speaker 1: hangs over you forever. If things don't go well, it's hard. Well,
Speaker 1: the Colts I think should move up to three because
Speaker 1: if somebody moves up in front of them, they're going
Speaker 1: to get the fourth quarterback in an average quarterback draft.
Speaker 1: That would worry me. Now again, there's Max Duggan's going
Speaker 1: to be a second or a third round guy. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that think, you know, a
Speaker 1: team like Indy could get him. I'll tell you this
Speaker 1: about I had somebody text me on this inside the league.
Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting. So I said, you know, Will Levis's
Speaker 1: family has some IVY League connections. He's a four point student.
Speaker 1: He's big, thick kid, good arm. And somebody texts me
Speaker 1: in the league and said, look how chiseled he is.
Speaker 1: He said, name the great quarterbacks that are chiseled, they
Speaker 1: don't exist. Is that when you get you ever go
Speaker 1: you ever go to the gym and see a wait letter,
Speaker 1: try to play basketball? How stick they are. There's no
Speaker 1: fluidity to him, no fluidity. And and so this person said,
Speaker 1: he is this is a danger sign. He's jacked, he's ripped,
Speaker 1: and he comes off sometimes as a little bit stiff.
Speaker 1: He doesn't come off as fluid. And he's strong. He's
Speaker 1: a smart kid. But the Will Levis stuff is interesting
Speaker 1: because you know there's so much of it. You like
Speaker 1: IVY League family, huge arm. You know, his numbers look
Speaker 1: like Eli Manning's out of old miss a non traditional
Speaker 1: SEC quarterback who you know, like one seventeen games in
Speaker 1: two years for a basketball school. It kind of feels eli.
Speaker 1: But the person who texts me is just like, you know,
Speaker 1: go look up the chiseled quarterbacks. It's like you see
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning with a tight shirt on.
Speaker 1: They they're big, they got more of a chest. But
Speaker 1: you don't see you don't see ripped guys. It's not
Speaker 1: what you have to be looked. That's why ply On
Speaker 1: Metrics and Brady. You've got to be loose. You've got
Speaker 1: to be able to be flexible and move your feet,
Speaker 1: move your hips, and Levis is just ripped and jacked.
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Speaker 1: one story I heard years ago. Remember, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure when the Texans had the number one overall
Speaker 1: pick to potentially take Blake Bortles. They ended up taking
Speaker 1: Clowney and Bill O'Brien had got Bortles on the board
Speaker 1: and just thought he was kind of a meathead, you know,
Speaker 1: nice guy or whatever, but just not you know, Peyton man,
Speaker 1: you weren't just going to draft the guy number one overall.
Speaker 1: And obviously he won a couple of picks later and
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. And I've heard from some people
Speaker 1: that Levis might have. Again this is all relative. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a high level guy, just some meathead football qualities,
Speaker 1: which works in a lot of positions, you know, like
Speaker 1: because they're you know in the weight room where Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: You read some of these stories that he was like
Speaker 1: a football savant. Yeah, and to me, if he was
Speaker 1: six to three, there wouldn't even be a question. And
Speaker 1: that's where C. J. Strout in that game against Georgia.
Speaker 1: If he had been playing like that his entire career,
Speaker 1: mobile you know, making plays behind the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: with his legs to then throw, I think he would
Speaker 1: be kind of a no brainer one or two pick.
Speaker 1: But I just know the way these gms think that
Speaker 1: just the one game sample size is hard because that's
Speaker 1: never how he played. He was just a pocket quarterback
Speaker 1: and he played with you know, seven all pros on
Speaker 1: the outside. Also, also outside of Michigan, Ohio State never
Speaker 1: plays a conference opponent with even talent. Their wide receivers
Speaker 1: are significantly open right in the SEC. As good as
Speaker 1: Bam is, LSU, Georgia, they got the same dudes and
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Now you don't you may not
Speaker 1: think joke couch. They got five star dudes everywhere. And
Speaker 1: so when you you know, when you see a wide
Speaker 1: receiver and you're in Bryce Young's hitting him, he's got
Speaker 1: a Georgia first round corner up against him. You see
Speaker 1: a lot of these Ohio State highlights. These guys are
Speaker 1: wide open. No CJ's accurate. Um, he had a good combine.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean a ton to me, But he throws
Speaker 1: a beautiful ball. He throws a beautiful ball in his hand.
Speaker 1: But we've never had an Ohio State quarterback of note
Speaker 1: in professional football in the history of the NFL. And
Speaker 1: there's probably a reason is that they have so separated
Speaker 1: and over the last several years because of a coach.
Speaker 1: They have Brian Hartline, who maybe the best recruiting coach
Speaker 1: in the country. They're getting like only five star guy
Speaker 1: now that that's all they get at Ohios. It's become
Speaker 1: the best wide receiving program in the country Alabama and
Speaker 1: Ohio State. So you're playing up against produce corners, Minnesota's corners,
Speaker 1: Illinois corners outside of Michigan maybe at Penn State, Michigan
Speaker 1: State's corners. So it is harder to evaluate. I said
Speaker 1: this for years, It's like I didn't know how good,
Speaker 1: you know, tool was. I'm like, these got these you know,
Speaker 1: even in the SEC they have like two the DeVante
Speaker 1: Smith and they have all these first round guys. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is better than the Patriots. So but I just
Speaker 1: think it was CJ. Stroud. There's a lot I like,
Speaker 1: but I well, those there's a lot of easy throws.
Speaker 1: If you're a Buckeye cornerback. Yeah. One other thing on
Speaker 1: the draft. I haven't heard your thoughts on this guy
Speaker 1: is an incredible talent. Jalen Carter the defensive tackle to Combine. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think most teams would have him ranked that
Speaker 1: way too. He went to the Combine, had to leave,
Speaker 1: check himself into jail, postponed, come back to the Combine
Speaker 1: over a couple of people that died, and he was
Speaker 1: clearly in another car right there, and no one ever
Speaker 1: knew about that until that moment. I'm sorry Colin that
Speaker 1: he had some other question marks. You're drafting the person
Speaker 1: as much as the player. I went to the All
Speaker 1: Pro team last year. There really weren't any low character
Speaker 1: guys on the team. It is full of just Mahomes's
Speaker 1: and Kelsey's and Bosa's and Freders and just pretty locked
Speaker 1: and loaded guys. I'd have a hard time pulling the
Speaker 1: trigger when you can't trust the human being. I don't
Speaker 1: care how good a player he is. No, I think
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. I think the sport asks so
Speaker 1: much of you physically, mentally, emotionally that it's a It's
Speaker 1: a test. Football is a constant test of your character,
Speaker 1: your soul, your communication. It's a complicated sport. You have
Speaker 1: a real playbook. So I think football weeds out people
Speaker 1: who aren't committed. You know, Jimmy Johnson still tells me
Speaker 1: the number one thing he always looked for was just
Speaker 1: football intelligence. Could you learn things quickly? Football? There's a
Speaker 1: reason half the league is undrafted because those guys learn quick,
Speaker 1: high character, good values, excellent teammates. They're not the most
Speaker 1: physically gifted. I mean, can you imagine if the NBA
Speaker 1: was half undrafted. I mean, hell, the NBA's mostly all
Speaker 1: top eighteen picks. It's a talent league. Football's different, john
Speaker 1: It just it asks. It's such a pressurized one game
Speaker 1: a week, physical, regulated level of violence, a playbook that
Speaker 1: if you're not buttoned up, even guys who look like
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, who's just a little cocky Johnny Manziel, it
Speaker 1: eats them up. And we also love it so much
Speaker 1: more than any other domestic sport. It's like soccer. It's
Speaker 1: like the English Premier League in the UK. The pressure
Speaker 1: is so massive. You have a bad game, you don't
Speaker 1: play until Sunday, you get nothing but ripped by your
Speaker 1: local media for a week. It's not like the NBA.
Speaker 1: You got a bad Sunday game Tuesday night in Denver,
Speaker 1: you scored forty. Nobody cares. So the Jalen Carter stuff,
Speaker 1: I think, I think your point's well taken. If you
Speaker 1: start looking at the all pro teams, very few low
Speaker 1: character guys last or make a difference in this league.
Speaker 1: You know, this week I always thought, even when I
Speaker 1: when I was in the NFL growing up, this literally
Speaker 1: this week could be a little overrated because most great
Speaker 1: players never hit free agency, and the ones that do
Speaker 1: get franchise tag. But now the influx of all these young,
Speaker 1: aggressive general managers, the cap has boomed, so the money
Speaker 1: all these owners have cash. The trades are the curveball
Speaker 1: these last couple of years, really probably last five or
Speaker 1: six years, that have added an element to this this week,
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks that just hasn't been there,
Speaker 1: you know before, because the NBA and baseball always was
Speaker 1: heavy in trades, and football never truly was a lot
Speaker 1: of draft trades, but just sweet players plug play that
Speaker 1: was never that's become very very invoke and that's it's
Speaker 1: already happening. Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers. But I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: shocked if there are three or four that we don't
Speaker 1: even know of. Last year had happened to we killed
Speaker 1: Davante Adams. Get buckle up because it's coming, John, This
Speaker 1: used to be March Madness week. All you talked about Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: Friday was March Madness. If Aaron Rodgers tomorrow at noon
Speaker 1: says I'm a jet, it will just bury March Madness
Speaker 1: talk for three days. So yeah, one of the things
Speaker 1: the NFL's always done is they realize it's a television
Speaker 1: show and they treat it like it. They have manipulated
Speaker 1: their schedule. They've gone after college basketball, they've gone after
Speaker 1: the NBA. I've been saying this for years. If I
Speaker 1: ran the NBA, I would start the season on the
Speaker 1: Wednesday after Thanksgiving, so you can't compete with Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 1: The college football that weekend is unbelievable. The NFL's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So Monday, guys like me, every talk show NFL, then
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Tuesday, NFL. Wednesday is just everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of exhausted from Thursday. For everybody's exhausted from like four
Speaker 1: days of heavy football Wednesdays start the NBA season, cut
Speaker 1: twelve games out of it, and I think that would
Speaker 1: be manipulating the schedule. That's essentially what the NFL has
Speaker 1: been doing my entire sportscasting career, figuring out these little holes.
Speaker 1: Free agency now is right smack dab, because as you
Speaker 1: said earlier, these guys are all they're all on the
Speaker 1: phone tonight and I think it starts tomorrow. You're legally
Speaker 1: allowed to get on the phone. So Aaron Rodgers, clearly
Speaker 1: the Jets are offering green Bay something because you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, the deal is not only in the works,
Speaker 1: the structure is probably there because green Bay had to
Speaker 1: allow the Jets to talk to him. So that Jets
Speaker 1: and the Packers they've got the deal. The deal's done.
Speaker 1: They're just waiting for Aaron to make up his mind.
Speaker 1: And it behooves him to figure this out sooner than later,
Speaker 1: because then the Jets can do other things. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would expect him to be a Jet. Honestly, could
Speaker 1: happen break tomorrow morning on your show, right this week,
Speaker 1: probably before Wednesday, that we get some finality there. Who
Speaker 1: do you like an NCAA tournament well, you know, I
Speaker 1: try to watch the good teams. I've watched Gonzaga, Ucla, Kansas,
Speaker 1: I watched Texas a couple of times. I've seen Duke.
Speaker 1: I think Duke's plan really good. So I've seen Duke
Speaker 1: play five times, but it's all four or five were
Speaker 1: at home, you know. I think Kansas bills self out
Speaker 1: of the hospital Hans. I saw CBS was picking a
Speaker 1: lot of upsets, like Mark Hat in the final four.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I would go with heavy favorites.
Speaker 1: This is a lad, this is a year without a
Speaker 1: great team, and so what's going to happen. Take the
Speaker 1: veteran coaches, Take Mark Few, take Bill Self, Take the
Speaker 1: veteran coaches. Because there's not a huge gap in talent um,
Speaker 1: and so I'll lean on coaching. I think UCLA's coach
Speaker 1: is really good. But I didn't see all year long.
Speaker 1: I watched Duke a couple of weeks ago, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, they got it. They got it kind
Speaker 1: of cinched up. It looks pretty tight um. But I
Speaker 1: think if you if you told me Kansas Duke that
Speaker 1: kind of level team won it. I do think all
Speaker 1: year long we heard that Gonzaga, it was kind of
Speaker 1: an off year. I don't know. I watched them when
Speaker 1: their conference championship. I watched them Plans and Mary's good.
Speaker 1: I watched it. I was like, I don't know, they
Speaker 1: got a dominant player in Timmy. It's like, um, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be mostly favorite twinning. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of an upset Tennessee plays Louisiana. Everybody's told me that
Speaker 1: Louisiana is gonna win that game. That's what all the
Speaker 1: CBS experts said. You know, the Big Ten's got to
Speaker 1: be pretty fired up. UCLA hoops is rolling, and USC's
Speaker 1: got Lincoln Riley and they're treading up. I mean, it
Speaker 1: couldn't have gotten much better timing for that conference. Kay, Listen,
Speaker 1: if if if Oregon and Washington go to the Big Ten,
Speaker 1: now they only get half a financial share, which would
Speaker 1: still beat the Pac twelve, but if they go, you
Speaker 1: could you know, I feel bad for the conference. I
Speaker 1: really done. I think Oregon State's got one of the
Speaker 1: best young coaches in the sport. You task excellent. Um.
Speaker 1: I like what Jed Fish is doing at Arizona. It'll
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