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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of batter Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jon, I'm Serena, and we are here to recap

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Speaker 1: the last episode of Grant Season that we just watched,

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Speaker 1: which is the episode before Hometowns.

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Speaker 2: Yes, episode five.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people gone at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, barely anyone left.

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Speaker 1: This was this was a very quick season.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there, well, it is a quick season

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Speaker 3: because it's I think it's only eight episodes where we

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Speaker 3: usually see ten episodes. Yeah, and it was less women

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Speaker 3: to start with. You know, we're usually in the thirties

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Speaker 3: these days, and I think we were only at twenty

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Speaker 3: five to begin with Grant Season.

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Speaker 1: I will say I prefer more women. Okay, I prefer

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Speaker 1: more of a more med too. No, I prefer a

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Speaker 1: more a bigger cast, a begger cast, because we are

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Speaker 1: now down. Like this episode felt a little like naked

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Speaker 1: to me. I was like, we're I need a few

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Speaker 1: more players in the game.

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Speaker 2: That's a great descriptive word.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I liked. I like that word choice from me, Oh

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Speaker 2: thank you naked? Yeah, I like you know, like I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I I wouldn't have used that word to describe the

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Speaker 3: episode but I think that it applies like it feels

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Speaker 3: like I.

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Speaker 2: Was I was going to say we're too empty this

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Speaker 2: early on.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I was going to say stark, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've been I used stark.

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Speaker 2: A little you do to find a synonym for stark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you, You're welcome. Wow. I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 1: this praise.

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Speaker 3: Four years heard you use the word naked as an adjective. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I praise you for your courage.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well this is this already, this episode starting off

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Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Okay, so we are.

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Speaker 3: But I will say the show has gotten longer as

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Speaker 3: it has existed for more time. Like Trista's of the

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Speaker 3: Boutchot was like six episodes. I think, right, it was quick.

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Speaker 1: Uh sure, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm just making a point that, like, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: not we're flexible with our season length here, it's it

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Speaker 3: hasn't been like ten episodes since day one, and like

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Speaker 3: this is the first time. Yeah, but Charity season I

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Speaker 3: think it was eight episodes two.

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Speaker 1: But I haven't watched since day one. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: as an observer of what I prefer. I prefer more of.

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Speaker 2: A cast, more cast, more episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, so we're kicking this thing off. We're

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Speaker 1: in Edinburgh, a place I really want to go.

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Speaker 2: Actually, it looked very beautiful.

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Speaker 3: It's not really my weather of choice, but it is

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Speaker 3: your weather of choice. You love gloomy, rainy, vibe, super cozy,

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Speaker 3: super romantic.

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Speaker 1: I do, I do, and I also love I love winter,

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Speaker 1: Christmas time and I but I do love summer.

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Speaker 2: You're you love all seasons. You don't discriminate.

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Speaker 1: I respect all seasons except winter goes a little too long.

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Speaker 1: And I've never really been a fan of spring.

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Speaker 3: Now like you like all the seasons between June and December.

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Speaker 1: I like the beginning of Major League Baseball, which is

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Speaker 1: like mid April.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but that's kind of spring.

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Speaker 1: That is Kennis. Well, yeah, I don't. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: guess I don't discriminate against seasons. Next week is hometown Weeks.

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Speaker 1: So when I heard that, I was like, oh shit,

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Speaker 1: we're here already. That's quick. We get a little golf

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Speaker 1: scene with Jesse and Grant. They're on the golf course.

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Speaker 1: Nothing major happens. There are just two guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jesse just one of the boys.

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Speaker 1: Two of the boys, just out there hitting balls, hitting balls.

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Speaker 2: With each other's.

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Speaker 1: Juliana gets the one on one. Yes, So this is

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Speaker 1: by far, you know, probably the most important one on

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Speaker 1: one date. Don't you think the one I want? You

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Speaker 1: don't think this is the most important one on one day? No,

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Speaker 1: what do you think the most?

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Speaker 3: I think that typically the people that get their first

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Speaker 3: one on one the week before hometowns, it's like, how

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Speaker 3: Like it's kind of like we're choosing from the last

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Speaker 3: I would say the people that get the one on

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Speaker 3: or it's just not that serious between them and the lead.

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Speaker 3: But I don't actually think that's the case with Juliana.

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Speaker 1: But or Latia.

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Speaker 3: Well, Latia got her second one on one date she

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Speaker 3: has already had one kind of because she had that

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, if a one on one

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Speaker 1: date is offered to you at this point in the

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Speaker 1: show before hometowns, I think you should take it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, I'm not saying you should reject it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying if you're asking me the most, Like,

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Speaker 3: I think weeks two to four are the most notable

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Speaker 3: one on one dates. Whoever is getting the dates in

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Speaker 3: those weeks, I think it's usually, okay, something more serious

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Speaker 3: than what we get with week one or week before.

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Speaker 3: Hometown's okay, okay, that's that could be a stupid take,

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Speaker 3: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: And he takes a take, you know, I do know,

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Speaker 1: thank you, You're welcome. They go on to helicopter. You

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Speaker 1: know this date was I felt between the two one

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Speaker 1: on one dates this week, there was a little more hmm,

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Speaker 1: there was a little more like seriousness I felt to

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Speaker 1: the Tia one on one date. But then again, Juliana

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Speaker 1: did open up, so we'll get into it. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: they are Castle for day, trying on kilts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the Princess. It's like a different version

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Speaker 3: Day, you know, Like I mean he didn't necessarily take

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Speaker 3: her on a shopping spree, and he too was playing

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Speaker 2: I actually I'm not against a reoccurring date. Like, I

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Speaker 1: Because then you'd be against the show because it's basically

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Speaker 1: all reoccurring day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is like an iconic Bachelor date. We

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Speaker 3: get to try on all these pretty outfits, you get

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Speaker 3: to drink champagne, and then you get to wear something

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Speaker 3: really special to dinner tonight, and like we kind of

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Speaker 3: it's just very telling because typically the person who gets

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Speaker 1: How awkward is the dancing moment on that date where

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Speaker 1: like you're two people that there's like these professional ballroom

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm not even joking. I blocked that

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Speaker 3: part of the episode out. You would hate that hat

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Speaker 3: that moment, I would be fine. I'm pretty game for

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't like when people sing happy birthday

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 2: No, which is I don't know why because you do

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Speaker 2: like attention.

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Speaker 1: I don't like attention.

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Speaker 2: You were on like five reality TV shows.

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Speaker 1: Not because I like attention?

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Speaker 2: Really, why then?

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Speaker 1: Because I needed the money? Okay, so yeah, okay, then

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Speaker 1: we cut to the house. We cut to the house,

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Speaker 1: Letia gets the one on one. Zoe gets upset. At

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Speaker 1: this point in this show, really like Zoe. We interviewed her.

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Speaker 1: I liked her as soon as we started talking to her.

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Speaker 1: She was somebody you kind of at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the season you didn't know which way it was gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Zoe being upset that she didn't get the one on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be passively like I'm the only girl who

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Speaker 3: the obvious choice, and.

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Speaker 1: I I love Zoe's attitude towards life of like this sucks.

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Speaker 1: I'm upset, but I'm gonna put my best foot forward

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do my best on the scroup date,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm putting all my shit aside. I'm probably she

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Speaker 1: in her head, She's like, I'm probably out, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: let me just give it a go. And and that

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Speaker 3: You kind of have to have that attitude to survive

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Speaker 3: filming this show. I think like you need a little

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Speaker 3: a little dash of toxic positivity to make your way through,

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Speaker 3: Like you need that.

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Speaker 1: To survive life.

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Speaker 3: What did you think of Juliana and Grant's conversation at dinner?

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Speaker 1: I think it was necessary. I think at this point

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Speaker 1: Juliana gets her first one on one late in the season.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I think her being vulnerable was important

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Speaker 1: He's like, she felt like a lone wolf. He's got

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Speaker 1: in she said she's falling in love with him, and

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I also think it was good because we've

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Speaker 3: seen bits and pieces of Juliana throughout the season, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think we've really gotten to know her past

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Speaker 3: her just kind of being like a fun, bubbly, happy gal.

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Speaker 3: So to see a deeper side of her and it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I was just thinking. I was like,

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Speaker 1: if we would have seen this earlier in the season, Like,

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Speaker 1: like you said, if Juliana would have got this one

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Speaker 1: on one date three weeks ago, we may feel stronger

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Speaker 1: about Like seems like she has it seems like Grant

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Speaker 1: really likes her, Yeah, and she really likes him. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost feels like their relationship like just developed

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Speaker 3: this week into something that he is actually serious like

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Speaker 3: she might be, or it's just.

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Speaker 1: Been developing and we haven't really we haven't really we

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Speaker 3: It, but even just in their interactions, like I just

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Speaker 3: this is the first time we're seeing him kind of

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Speaker 3: build like a stronger foundation with Juliana. But I think

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Speaker 3: that it's based on a shared experience and that can

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, So leaving this date, I'm I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: much like Juliana is going to get a Rose. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think she's going. She's going to hometowns, no doubt

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 1: We go to the group day. Carolina is having a

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Speaker 3: I think Carolina was someone that I was pretty sure

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Speaker 2: Could you go to hometowns without a one on one date?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I feel like you would.

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Speaker 3: Most people would. I'm not judging Zoe at all, but

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Speaker 3: I think it's unfair to like be like I'm going

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Speaker 2: Your parents wouldn't care, and you would totally.

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Speaker 1: I would. I wouldn't pass up the opportunity for America

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Speaker 2: Now you'd be doing them a disservice.

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Speaker 1: YEA, I really.

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Speaker 1: Yeh's that's yeah, Zoe, Yeah, Zoe has a good conversation girls.

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Speaker 1: Now it's the girls versus Carolina, which at this point

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Speaker 1: Yep. And then Dina talks to Grant and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: At that point, you she barely said.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, it is over for Caroline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's when I knew to her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when I was like, it's over, Carolina's.

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Speaker 1: it's something I caught that's interesting. Well when they were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people could be issue

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Speaker 3: Very fun and like I love these dates. They're casual,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean at this point, you can't like, I

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Speaker 3: very serious. Like you can really tell they're trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out if they can marry each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Latia opens up about being very conservative, very

442
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Speaker 1: conservative family, the Latter day a Church of Saints almost

443
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Speaker 1: something like that.

444
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Speaker 2: The church.

445
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: I think it's the Church of Saints, Yeah, which is

446
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: the Mormon church, the Mormon religion. Yes, I mean, yeah,

447
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: that's that's just like I mean, that's if you if

448
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: you're really strict in that religion. Like I don't know,

449
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: Like was she okay if Grant drinks, and I think

450
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: she is. I don't think. I think it's just about

451
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: them not doing it, but.

452
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: Like I have a lot of questions about it because

453
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: she has never dated anyone that's not Mormon.

454
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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, that's another thing she opened up about. Yeah

455
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Speaker 1: that I was actually very surprised when I heard that.

456
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: Yes, so obviously Grant's not Mormon. And I would hope

457
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: that this was part of the conversation. We just didn't

458
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: see it, or maybe they'll get there down the line.

459
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: Maybe this is more of like a fantasy sweets talk.

460
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: But like if I'm Grant, I'm like, okay, well I

461
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: don't practice Mormonism. Where's the line for you? Like I

462
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: think Grant, like Grant drinks, I'm assuming he has coffee.

463
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of different things like what does

464
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: she care about him implementing and what is she like, Hey,

465
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: I don't do that, but I'm totally cool if you

466
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: do that, and would you.

467
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Speaker 1: Be you personally be open to joining Let's use Mormon

468
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: because it's the example Mormon Church for someone you are

469
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: falling in love with.

470
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Speaker 3: I mean, my knowledge of Mormonism really comes from like

471
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: the secret lives of Mormon wives and like the real

472
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: housewives of.

473
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Speaker 2: Salt Lake City.

474
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Speaker 3: So like my knowledge is not like super in depth

475
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Speaker 3: about the religion, but from the things I do know,

476
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: Like I live my life in a very different way

477
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: and by very different rules than they do. So it

478
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Speaker 3: would not just be like I'm taking on this religion

479
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 3: and this belief system of this community, like would be

480
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: kind of life altering, you know what I mean, like

481
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: for me to be like I'm cutting out alcohol and

482
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 3: all of these things. I don't know if I would

483
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Speaker 3: be open to it. I would be open to dating

484
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Speaker 3: someone that was Mormon and a practicing Mormon. I would

485
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 3: definitely be open to that. But I don't know if

486
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: I would be open to converting to Mormonism, especially like

487
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about it right now to say

488
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: I would, but I would lean towards no.

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Speaker 1: I would I would reopen to it. Okay, So back

490
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: on topic, So I I guess the the big thing

491
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Speaker 1: with with Grant and Latia is Grant actually meeting meeting

492
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Speaker 1: her family, I think, and being I would assume being

493
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Speaker 1: open to Mormonism.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just think him and Latia clearly need to have.

495
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Or we need to know they may have had that.

496
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, they may have had We don't know, but

497
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: there obviously needs to be conversations regarding like what her

498
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: expectations are for him, what her hopes are for a

499
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: husband and the father for children when it comes to

500
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: their role in the church. And I think meeting her

501
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: family we see in the teaser He's like, you know,

502
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: I obviously want to like them, but this is more

503
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: about if they'll except me, because I'm assuming this is

504
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Speaker 3: the first guy she's ever brought home that's not Mormon.

505
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Speaker 3: So I'm intrigued on how the hometown's gonna go me.

506
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Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, I'm intrigued in how well I would assume

507
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: the family knew going in that he.

508
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Speaker 2: Was Mormon, or like, it's not going to be like,

509
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: what do you mean he's not Mormon? Like they know.

510
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've like done some digging on him while

511
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: she's away.

512
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Speaker 3: Like, but I think that the conversation continues in you know,

513
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: a different direction after they kind of talk about that,

514
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: where Grant opens up more about his childhood and his

515
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: family structure. He specifically speaks on not having family dinners,

516
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: growing up eating dinner alone in his room. You can

517
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: just really tell that he sees Letia as a safe space.

518
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 3: He opens up with her more than anyone else as

519
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: far as we've seen. They get into very serious topics.

520
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: You can see he's emotional in his conversation. She clearly

521
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: has so much love for him. She's emotional, and yeah,

522
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 3: it's just I think whether they end up together or not, like,

523
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: it's just beautiful to see two people connecting in this way.

524
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: And like Grant talking about things that have shaped who

525
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: he is that maybe he doesn't talk about very often.

526
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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, Well said thank you. I think

527
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was a lovely time.

528
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Speaker 3: She also says she loves him. I think that's the

529
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: first I love you. She doesn't say it to him,

530
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: but she says it in an interviews.

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Speaker 1: In my notes, Grant cries, Latia says she loves him.

532
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, things happened.

533
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like after watching that, like I said, Latia is

534
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: the front runner. Yeah, okay, and then basically that's over.

535
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: So it's like Latia and Juliana there in a great spot.

536
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Everybody else kind of could be any of the anyone's game. Yeah,

537
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: we see Carolina grabs Dina, they hug it out, YadA, YadA, YadA.

538
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: Were you surprised when she grabbed her?

539
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: No, not at all, not really when she.

540
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: Grabbed her, what did you expect her intentions to be

541
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: with the conversation that?

542
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

543
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point, I felt like Carolina made peace

544
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: with the fact that Grant probably wasn't going to choose her,

545
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: and it was probably like I had a pretty solid

546
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: relationship with Dina and I don't.

547
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Speaker 2: Want to leave here on a bad note.

548
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: Medina did stick up for her and stick her out

549
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: neck out for her, Yeah, and like clearly has kind

550
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: of a soft spot for her. I thought that was nice. Yeah, Yeah,

551
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was nice that they were able to

552
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: leave kind of on good terms.

553
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like Sarafina wasn't sure if it was

554
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: going to be her or not. Alex definitely knew it

555
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: wasn't her.

556
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what the heck happened? Like where did she go?

557
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: No? I just think it was just I just think

558
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: they probably just didn't have a real connection.

559
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, they definitely didn't.

560
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: There was you know, she was, There was an attraction,

561
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: and I just feel like enough of an attraction for

562
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: her to be there for a very long time, And

563
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of it. Yeah, I will say.

564
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised that Alex didn't get a hometown. I

565
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: was maybe a little surprised about Carolina, but not super surprised.

566
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: I was surprised about Sarafina. I think I would have

567
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: expected it to be Sarafina over Zoe, not based on

568
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 3: anything other than the fact that Sarafina got that extra

569
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: dog day time had the one on one, it seemed

570
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: like it went really well. Zoe never got a one

571
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: on one day, even though she fully could have, and

572
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: for him to be like, nah, I'm gonna keep Zoe,

573
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: it just kind of surprised me.

574
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I kind of I thought he was gonna

575
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: keep Zoe. Sarah Fina and Carolina both mentioned that they

576
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: felt blindsided. I don't know if that term really goes

577
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: with the show.

578
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it just means that Grant was

579
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: probably really affirming them and they felt secure in their relationships.

580
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: I think, well, Carolina definitely didn't feel secure, so I

581
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: don't know how she was blindsided like she was. She

582
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: was like I feel secure this entire time, like she

583
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: was clearly every episode, like I feel insecure about this.

584
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Speaker 3: I think it's probably just hard when you're like breaking

585
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: down being like I feel like you have stronger connections

586
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: with other people, and it's hard for me to watch that,

587
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: and I'm just confused and I have these doubts and

588
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: it's all these things are happening.

589
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: And then he like.

590
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: Does what his role is, as you know, the person

591
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: dating her and the lead like calms her down and

592
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: reassures her and kind of builds her back up and

593
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 3: like gives her some confidence in where they're at. And

594
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: then to be like, yeah, but like actually it's over.

595
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: I think can feel confusing. Yeah, but I feel like

596
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: she might watch it back and have a sense of clarity.

597
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: Sarafina, I can understand being blindsided. I don't know. I

598
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: thought she was probably going to hometowns.

599
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: But I also think that Letia, Juliana and Dina and

600
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: honestly maybe Zoe, we have strong connections with him than

601
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: I've seen with Sarapina despite her time with him.

602
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just put them all in the

603
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: same ballpark as far as like time and and connection

604
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: and wise. It just they all seem it all seemed

605
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: very similar, like Dina, Sarah, Fina, Zoe, Carolina, Alex's probably

606
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: the least, but they all kind of seem to have

607
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the same.

608
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: I think they just have a similar amount of screen time. Yeah,

609
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: well I think there's I don't think there's any way

610
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: Zoe could have had as much time as like a

611
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: Dina maybe.

612
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're right, you know.

613
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: Like just like just yeah, she just didn't get breaking

614
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: it down.

615
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just didn't get a one on a long Yeah,

616
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: I forget that Zoe didn't get a one on one.

617
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like Zoe was a bigger.

618
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: She's been a really consistent character on the show. Like

619
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: we've seen quite a bit of her every single episode,

620
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: especially because she was like involved in drama in the beginning,

621
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: and then her relationship has kind of developed a lot.

622
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: I just think it's been more about like her screen

623
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: time versus her actual time with Grant.

624
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably right, Okay, everyone, that's it for the episode.

625
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Speaker 1: Make sure you stay tuned in the Batch or Happy Hour,

626
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: and we have Juliana coming up in our next podcast.

627
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so excited to talk to her. And then

628
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Speaker 3: next week we'll be Grant's Home Hometown episode, so be

629
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Speaker 3: sure to tune in for our recaps and interviews on

630
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: that and subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Bye bye,