1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, luck and load. The Michael 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: Well, wherever you may be in the country, you may 4 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: have glanced at the news out of Texas, or you 5 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: may be glued to the screen. You might be aware 6 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: of some flooding and a lot of people have died 7 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of people are missing, or you might 8 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: be intimately familiar with some of the families involved. What 9 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: I would like to do over the next couple of 10 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: hours is to give you perspective on this story close 11 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: to it as I am. I do not have a 12 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: child that was at either of the camps that were flooded, 13 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: but my two sons did go to school with the 14 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: older young lady, Chloe Childress, who passed. She was a 15 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: camp counselor and knew a number of other kids who 16 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: were rescued and some who passed. We were not at 17 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: the camp, as I said, so it was not our 18 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: immediate grief to experience, but certainly it is there but 19 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: for the grace of God go I. My oldest son, Crockett, 20 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: went to Young Life Camp this summer, as his brother 21 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: did before him two years ago. 22 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: That is in between your junior and senior years. 23 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: It's a Christian based camp where you carry your gear 24 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: up a mountain and in the course of a week 25 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: you scale the mountain and come back and each day 26 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: you sleep outside after Bible study. And it's been a 27 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: wonderful experience for both of my boys. Wonderful experience. Young 28 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Life as a Christian organization for Bible study and fraternity 29 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: fellowship has been. 30 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Really good for both of my boys. 31 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: But I would like to talk to you and give 32 00:02:54,080 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: you some perspective that perhaps National news cannot provide on 33 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: what has happened in what we call the hill country 34 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: of Texas. That phrase has been around for a long time. 35 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: You think of Texas as being flat, and you're mostly right. 36 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: We have an incredible canyon called Polloduro Canyon, which I 37 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: believe is the second largest canyon in the country. Who 38 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: knew outside of the Grand Canyon. I believe it to 39 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: be the largest canyon in Canyon Texas. North of there, 40 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: Texas has a varied topography from South Texas, which is 41 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: basically a very dry North Mexico, to East Texas, which 42 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: is very lush, piny trees, very green up that corridor, 43 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: a lot of rain, a lot of bayous to West Texas, 44 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: which is very arid and dry, dusty, to the Panhandle, 45 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: which is one of my favorite places in Texas doesn't 46 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: doesn't get its due. From from Fort Worth up to 47 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: headed northwest, you have the Gulf Coast, which is where 48 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: I live, which is which is hot and humid, and 49 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: you've got beaches, which most of you would say aren't 50 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: beautiful because you might have white sandy beach fantasies. We 51 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: don't have that, but we do have beaches, and we 52 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: have a lot of fishing along the Gulf Coast. But 53 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful areas of the state we 54 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: refer to as the Hill Country in central Texas. And 55 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: you know where Austin is, or you have an idea 56 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: where Austin is. If you just head north, you just 57 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: head southwest of Austin, you over a bit to the west, 58 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: you'll get to San Antone and then just west of 59 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: there you'll get to the location we're going to talk 60 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: about today, which is Kerr County and Kerrville, Texas, which 61 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: you may have heard of, is there. And you've got 62 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: some towns like Hunt and Prosper and Comfort. A lot 63 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: of Texans, a lot of Houstonians, will go to this 64 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: area because there is a river there known as the Guadaloupe, 65 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: and it is quite popular among young Houstonians. My wife 66 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: and I used to go when we were younger, and 67 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: it's common to take your kids and you, quote unquote 68 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: float the river. It's a tourist attraction and people will 69 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: rent cabins along the Guadalupe River or the Guadaloupe as 70 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: we caught, and those people are going to be some 71 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: of the subject of what we talk about today. But 72 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: also along that storied river are several youth camps. And 73 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: these youth camps are as close as Texas gets to 74 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: Andover or Exeter. They're not fancy, quite the opposite. They're 75 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: stripped down. They're simple. There's no cell phone service, there's 76 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: no internet service. It's back to basics. But for generations 77 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: young kids from Dallas, San Anton, Austin, and Houston, and 78 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: we know a lot of kids from Houston who go 79 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: to these camps. And there's a I believe, a thirteen 80 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: day option and a thirty three zero day option. These 81 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: kids go to camp and they stay and it's a 82 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Christian based camp, and they sing Christian songs and they 83 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: have youth activities and they look forward to it. They 84 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: look forward to it all year long, and they go 85 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: year after year after year from when they start, most 86 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: of them in about second or third grade. They go 87 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: every summer through graduation, and then they come back and 88 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: serve as a counselor. And that too, is a legendary 89 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: part of the experience because that is sort of the 90 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: graduation from child to adult. 91 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: You went from. 92 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: Being a camper to being a counselor, and you are 93 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: largely responsible for these little girls at Camp Mystic is 94 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: a girls camp in Camp Lahunta or sor Lahunta. There 95 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: in Hunt is a boy's so these are separated. There 96 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: are some other camps along there, but these are the 97 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: two that were hit hardiest by this storm, and this 98 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: is where the loss of life occurred. 99 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: Camp Lahunta. 100 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: The boys camp did not lose anyone, now, they came 101 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: very close. There were some actions of heroism, and I'll 102 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: tell you about those. But the girls camp, Camp Mystic 103 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: has lost some campers and there are still a number 104 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: of individuals who are missing. At this point, we have 105 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: moved pretty far into this, so it would truly be 106 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: a miracle, but we're holding out for a miracle. But 107 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of politics behind this, a lot of 108 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: media coverage behind this, a lot of and I'm going 109 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: to try to cover all of that for you wherever 110 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: you live in the country. Coming out the Michael Berry Show, 111 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: Michael Berry's Show, I'm going to try to give some 112 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: perspective to this story out of Texas that has made 113 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: national news. I don't want to talk about the politics 114 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: of it all, but the left can't help themselves, So 115 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: for now, I'm going to address this issue as follows. 116 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: The idea that the Big Beautiful Bill had made cuts 117 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: to the National Weather Service and. 118 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: That is the reason. 119 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: That these young ladies died is absolutely false. 120 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: It It is knowably false, by which I mean anyone 121 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: who has watched what's happened and spent five minutes looking 122 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: into it understands that it is false. 123 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: To try to blame yet another thing on Donald Trump 124 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: at the expense of these children is sickening. This is 125 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: Fox News contributor Joe Kanca talking about that there were. 126 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: Flood warnings twelve hours before this happened. There were flash 127 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: flood warnings three hours before it happened. We keep seeing 128 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: on other networks talking about how there wasn't the proper 129 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: staffing at the National Weather Service in that area, they 130 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: actually had twice as many staffers. 131 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: On as they normally would. 132 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: So again, if you're going to try to find blame 133 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 4: and in the name of accountability or at least get 134 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: your facts right and at this point, like we see 135 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: so often, especially in a world of social media, there's 136 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: a lot of information out there that is not accurate. 137 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: But twelve hours, three hours, as far as flash flood warnings, 138 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 4: twice as many staffers, those are the. 139 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: Facts I want to speak to. 140 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: What happened in how fast it happened the Guadeloupe, the 141 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: river rose twenty six feet in forty five minutes. If 142 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: you see a time lapse photography, you cannot believe what 143 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: happened and how fast it happened. You will be unwilling 144 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: to believe it. A wall of water moving through so 145 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: fast when you look at the number of inches of 146 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: water that are of rainfall that are dropping and how 147 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: fast they're coming down, and you consider that's being funneled 148 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: into the instrument, the. 149 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Vessel to get it out. 150 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: That's the river, that's the natural floodplain, the watershed is 151 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: making its way into this narrow river, narrow relatively speaking 152 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: to the land mass around it. And when that water 153 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: is filling the river faster than the river can move it, 154 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: the river jumps its banks and it becomes like a 155 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: monster on the loose. 156 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: It is so dangerous. 157 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: It moves with so much speed, so swift, so powerful. 158 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: So I'll get back to that. There's a lot of 159 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: politics I wish I didn't have to discuss today. I 160 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: didn't discuss on a morning show. But first I want 161 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: to focus on what really matters here, and I want 162 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: us not to lose out of this. A young man 163 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: by the name of Scott Ruskin, a Coastguard rescue swimmer, 164 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: rescued one hundred and sixty five of these precious little 165 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: girls at camp missed it. They are as young as 166 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: seven years old. He's being called an American hero, and 167 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: he is. He says, the real heroes are the kids. 168 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: And there was some pure heroism, there's no doubt about that. 169 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: But when you talk about making a hero out of someone, 170 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: we should encourage people. 171 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: To be like this. 172 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: We should lag this type of behavior. This was his 173 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: first effort. This guy was a a I believe an 174 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: accountant in New York and went into the Coastguard where 175 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: He's apparently one hell of a strong swimmer. 176 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: And a. 177 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: Petty officer, and this was the first time and he's 178 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: running triage on this effort. Can you imagine how scared 179 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: nervous he was, And boy did he ever rise to 180 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: the occasion. This is what I wanted to focus on. 181 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 5: The Coast Guard launched us and decided to send a 182 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: rescue crew from Air Station Corpus Christie at about six 183 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 5: point thirty seven am on Friday, the fourth of July. 184 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 5: I just happened to be on the duty crew with 185 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 5: Ian Hopper Blair Rouge wor Seth Reeves, some of our 186 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: crew members in the Coast Guard, and yeah, they sent 187 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 5: us out. We kind of encountered some pretty serious weather, 188 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 5: some of the worst flying we've ever dealt with. Personally, 189 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: it took us, you know, WHI should have been an 190 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: hour flight, probably took us about seven or eight just. 191 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: To get into the landing zone. 192 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: Once we made about four different approaches trying to get in. 193 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: We were able to get out and get a boots 194 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: on the ground with the Air National Guard, Department of 195 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 5: Public Safety for Texas Game Wardens, and we decided to 196 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 5: leave me on scene at Camp Mistic that was kind 197 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 5: of our main triage we were trying to help out with, 198 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: and we decide, hey, if we leave the rescue summer 199 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: on scene, we'll have more space in our Dolphin MH 200 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 5: sixty five. So based on that, I got on scene 201 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: boots on the ground, it can't miss it, kind of 202 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: discovered I was the only person there as far as 203 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 5: like first responders go. So yeah, I had about two 204 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 5: hundred kids, mostly all scared, terrified, cold, having probably the 205 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: worst day of their life, and I just kind of 206 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 5: need to triage them, get them to a higher level 207 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: care and get them off the flood zone. With a 208 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: lot of the US sixty Army helicopters, i'd States Army 209 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: National Guard was landing their sixties with Task Force one 210 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: some of their rescue summers, and they were able to land. 211 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: We kind of came up with two different landing zones. 212 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 5: There's one off an archery field and then one at 213 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 5: a soccer field, So yeah, we were able to kind 214 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: of land those sixties in there, and then I was 215 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: kind of the main guy as far as like grabbing 216 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: people usually like fifteen to ten kids at a time, 217 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: maybe one adult with them and bringing them over to 218 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 5: those sixties and getting them to a different LZ that 219 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: was kind of safe and had more first responders just 220 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: myself out there. 221 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Had you ever done this before? 222 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 5: No, this is my first one. I haven't had any 223 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: cases before. I've been a rescue swimmer for about a year, 224 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: fully trained for about six months, so yeah, this was 225 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: my first experience. But I really just kind of relied on. 226 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: The training we get. 227 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: Coast Guard rescue swimmers get some of the highest level 228 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: training in the world, so really just kind of relied 229 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: on that and that, you know, just knowing that any 230 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: of the rescue swimmers in the Coast Guard would have 231 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 5: done the exact same, if not better than me. 232 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Such is one thing, but this was the real deal. 233 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is definitely the real deal. But I 234 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: just remember that, you know, when I got on scene, 235 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: there was you know, two hundred kids looking to someone 236 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: for some sort of comfort and safety. They don't really 237 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: know what my experience is, or my rank or my age. 238 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: They just know, hey, this guy's this guy's a professional 239 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: and he's here to help us. And I kind of 240 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 5: had to live up to that standard. But yeah, the 241 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: real heroes, I think were too the kids on the ground, 242 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: like those guys are heroic, and you know, they were 243 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 5: dealing with some of the worst times of their lives 244 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: and they were staying strong, and that help inspire me 245 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: to kind of get in there and help them out. 246 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: Those children showed such bravery, such maturity, such strength. 247 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: But this guy right here. 248 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he's sitting in an office job and he decides, no, 249 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: I want to go learn to be a rescue swimmer, 250 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: not knowing that we'd need him in Kerr County, Texas. 251 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: But when we did, he was there. 252 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: My goodness, my goodness, there there are good people out there. 253 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: Changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the 254 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Gulf of Michael Barry, which has a beautiful. 255 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: Camp Mystic is the name of the summer camp for 256 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: girls where we have lost at this point an undetermined 257 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: number of young ladies who actually they're just girls, they're 258 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: just precious little children. A number were rescued and some 259 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: are still missing, and some. 260 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: Have lost their lives. 261 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 6: And it is. 262 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: It is a grand, bold tradition for young girls in 263 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: Texas to go to Camp Mystic. There are some other 264 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: summer camps, quite a few along that river and in 265 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: that portion of Texas which is central Texas, or as 266 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 2: we call it, the Hill Country, and it is an 267 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: idyllic place where people from Austin, Dallas, Houston and beyond 268 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 2: will come and float this river by float. 269 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: If you don't know what that means, you. 270 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: Literally get on an inner tube, the inner tube of 271 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: an inflated inner tube of attire. And forgive me if 272 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: you know that term already, but not everybody does. It's 273 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: kind of a redneck thing and we love to do 274 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: it well along that river. 275 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: It's a little calmer climb than. 276 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: Then Houston and a little cooler, and it's just a 277 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: beautiful place where little girls make beautiful memories. More important 278 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: than the place, the location and all of that is 279 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: the friendships that are made, and I think that's important 280 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: for children. 281 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: This is a. 282 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: Young girl remembering her friend nay name, who was killed 283 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: during the flash bloods and this little girl was saved. 284 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: These are her words. My friend Nanna was so funny. 285 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: I've been scrolling I've been scrolling through videos. 286 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 7: And pictures on my mom's phone and watching it over 287 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 7: and over again. 288 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Her dancing when she's excited. 289 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 5: She was. 290 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: She was so I said, missed her so much. 291 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: Tara Bradburne and her daughter Calliam mcmclary. We're on Fox 292 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: after Calli was rescued from Camp Mystic, and Tara, the mom, says, 293 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: this camp has been a major part of her daughter's life. 294 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: It's important to understand how connected these little girls were 295 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: to this tradition. Laura Bush, among others, was a camp, 296 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: was a camper, and then when you graduate high school, 297 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: you go back as a counselor. 298 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: It's a point of great pride. 299 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: You know, you finish your first year, you finish your 300 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: high school, and then you become a counselor. 301 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: And then a lot of girls will come back. 302 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: For years, their first year of college or second year 303 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: of college. They will come back in the summer rather 304 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: than take a trip to Europe, and they will work 305 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: at the camp where they themselves were once campers, and 306 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: they will work there as a counselor. 307 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: It's a really neat tradition. 308 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: Tara, this camp has been a big part of your 309 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: daughter's life. 310 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 7: It has been a huge part of her life since 311 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 7: she finished. She entered at the end of second grade. 312 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 7: This is her year, was her eighth year. We chose 313 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 7: this camp. We lived I was a Texan. It was 314 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 7: important to me that my child to have Texas roots 315 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 7: and that faith formation be integral to the part of 316 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 7: her camp experience. 317 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Living in Virginia. 318 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 7: We brought her to Camp Mystic and turned her over 319 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 7: to the Dick and Tweety Eastland family and Camp Mystic 320 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 7: in their staff because we knew they would love on 321 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 7: our child, they would help her grow in her faith 322 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 7: and live the Mystic ideals of being a better person 323 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 7: and bringing out the best in her. And we are 324 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 7: so devastated by what has happened, but truly grateful and 325 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 7: thankful to the Eastland family for all they have done 326 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 7: and all they have given is a family to save 327 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 7: the children that they could. It is devastating for us 328 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 7: and for the Mystic sister Hood to have lost so 329 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 7: many children and for so many children to wait. But 330 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: we are here today because we feel as though it 331 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 7: is so important that this story remain in the news. 332 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 7: There are children out there that need to be found, 333 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 7: and we want the EMS and National Federal Services and 334 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 7: the state services to continue to stay on the job 335 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 7: as they have said they are going to, because we 336 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 7: have children that need to be found and need to 337 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 7: be reunited with their parents. 338 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: And we are a truly. 339 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 7: Blessed and fortunate family, and we want the same for others. 340 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 7: We want those children to be found. 341 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: Dick Eastland, who she's referenced is, was the director of 342 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: the center and has been for a very long time. 343 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: He died saving the lives of little girls read skewing 344 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: them until he was swept away in the midst of 345 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: rescuing these little girls. It's important to understand how fast 346 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: a flash flood happens. This is the Governor of Texas, 347 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: Greg Abbott, talking about if you haven't seen a time 348 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: lapse photography of this, if all you've ever been in 349 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: was rising waters, you can't understand how fast these flash 350 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: floods happen in this part of the state where they 351 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: come down so fast, and you have to realize much 352 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: of the earth is impermeable. You've got a lot of limestone, 353 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: you've got a lot of other rock, and you've got 354 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: a very. 355 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Little soil to absorb this water. 356 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: So if the old you know, the old line is 357 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: raining like a calpe and on a flat rock, you've 358 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: got water coming down on the rock that is impermeable. 359 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: It can't absorb it, so it is deflecting it into 360 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: the river. Well when you get twenty eight inches of 361 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 2: water or more across the plaine, that's one thing. But 362 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: when you've basically got a v you're working with that, it's. 363 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Funneling it into there. 364 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: All of that water is coming in and creating an 365 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: incredible pressure that is just and it happens fast. 366 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: This was Texas governor talking about that. I know nothing 367 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: about the staffing. 368 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 8: What I do know is what they put out, and 369 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 8: it's my understanding that what they put out was kind 370 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 8: of the information that the state was operating off of, 371 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 8: and that is that there were the largs or warnings 372 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 8: about heavy rain potential flash flooding in certain areas. A 373 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 8: problem with that is that to most people in the area, 374 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 8: flesh flooding would mean one thing, not what it turned 375 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 8: out to be, because they deal with flesh floods all 376 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 8: the time, just like I put people on notice in 377 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 8: these regions of Texas right now, there's the potential for 378 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 8: flesh flooding, but there's no expectation of a water wall 379 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 8: of almost thirty feet high. 380 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: And you can go see it for yourself if you like, 381 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: and you will, you will understand that, yes, there was 382 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: a twelve hour alarm, and yes, it was a three 383 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: hour alarm. 384 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: But the expectation, based on. 385 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: Years and years of doing this, was that the waters 386 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: would rise, but not to the level they did. And 387 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: it's very easy to cast blame on the facility or 388 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: now on Trump. But that is that is Trump delusion syndrome. 389 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: That is the sickness infecting the mind. 390 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry Show. 391 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: I don't care if what your politics are, you don't 392 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: dance on the grave of little children. That's evil. I mean, 393 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: there has to be some amount of decency. The Trump 394 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: delusion syndrome also causes them to blame Donald Trump when 395 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: every person on the scene locally says, no, the Trump 396 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: administration did everything right. Carolyn Levitt, the White House Press Secretary, 397 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: today answered just that question. 398 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: You shared your thoughts earlier on how the way to 399 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: the left has really weaponized this to blame the. 400 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Deaths in Texas on Trump For to call. 401 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 9: That again, Yeah, I just do think those comments are 402 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 9: depraved and despicable, especially when so many Americans are mourning 403 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 9: the loss of their children. 404 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Of the National Weather Service, as I said, did its job. 405 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 9: Many experts, many meteorologists, have said that many of you 406 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 9: in the media, in all fairness have said that as well. 407 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 9: Unfortunately not all and many Democrat elected a fIF are 408 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 9: trying to turn this into a political game and it 409 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 9: is not. This is a national tragedy. In the administration 410 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 9: is treating it as such. We know the National Weather 411 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 9: Service provided early and consistent warnings. They gave out timely 412 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 9: flash flood alerts, there were record breaking lead times and 413 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 9: the lead up to this catastrophe, there is ongoing flood monitoring, 414 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 9: and these offices were well staffed. In fact, one of 415 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 9: the offices was actually overstaffed. They had more people than 416 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 9: they need. So any claim to the contrary is completely false. 417 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 9: And it's just sad that people are pushing. 418 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 5: These lacks. 419 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: The climate change global warming alarmists. 420 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: It's a death cult, it really is. It's a sick 421 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: death cult, and they are gloom and doom and there. 422 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: Is no love of humanity among these people. Michael Schellenberger 423 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: is a professor at the Universe of Austin. That's not 424 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: the University of Texas, University of Austin. It's a conservative 425 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: school that was created in Austin a couple of years ago, 426 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: and it's incredible what they're doing. He explains here This 427 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: is a longer cliff than I would normally play. How 428 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: climate change alarmists are living in a weird cult. 429 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: Again, this is Michael Schellenberger. 430 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: Over the past century, global flood debts declined by more 431 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 6: than eighty percent. That happened not because nations reduced rainfall, 432 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 6: but because they have learned how to live with it. 433 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 6: They built levees, dams, and drainage systems, They developed early 434 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 6: warning systems, and evacuated people before the water arrived. Kerr 435 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 6: County and Texas failed to do any of those things. 436 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 6: Despite its location in one of the most flood prone 437 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 6: regions in the United States, the county had no formal 438 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: flood warning system. There were no sirens, no automated text alerts, 439 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: no rapid evacuation protocol. The river rose, and families had 440 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 6: no idea it was coming. Floods are not the only 441 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 6: extreme weather event that The New York Times and other 442 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: media outlets wrongly attribute to climate change. Over the past decade, 443 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 6: reporters have increasingly blamed climate change for heat waves, hurricanes, wildfire, 444 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 6: even cold snaps, often before any formal scientific attribution was possible. 445 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: In an era of collapsing AD revenue and to climbing 446 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 6: public trust Sensational stories about apocalyptic climate disasters generate clicks, 447 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 6: shares an urgency. The system rewards dishonesty and those who 448 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 6: lean into worst case scenarios. That bias shapes public understanding 449 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 6: and distorts what climate science actually shows. Another part of 450 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 6: the climate narrative is strictly ideological. Climate alarmism gives radical 451 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 6: Malthusian activists and intellectuals who view Western civilization as inherently 452 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 6: destructive and a moral justification for demanding its dismantling. Part 453 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 6: of the climate alarmism discourse functions as a form of 454 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 6: secularized Christianity. It follows a familiar structure. Humanity has sinned 455 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 6: by running fossil fuels, and humanity now must suffer as 456 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 6: punishment through floods, fires, and storms. Salvation can only come 457 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 6: through repentance and sacrifice, by giving up consumption, flying less 458 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 6: at least for the pleas not for the elites, eating 459 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: plants and bugs, and trusting in technocratic authorities. This moral 460 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 6: framework replaces God with the science, sin with carbon emissions, 461 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 6: and redemption with policy obedience. Like religious movements of the past, 462 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: it promises both judgment and deliverance but only for the righteous. 463 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 6: It channels guilt, fear, and the desire for meaning into 464 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: a narrative that demands personal purity and societal transformation. The 465 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 6: apocalyptic climate discourse, however, differs from Christianity in some fundamental ways. 466 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 6: Traditional Christianity offers forgiveness, hope, and the possibility of redemption 467 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: through the gift of grace. Climate Alarmism, by contrast, offers 468 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: no such forgiveness, only permanent guilt and endless sacrifice. Where 469 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 6: Christianity separates sin from the sinner, allowing for mercy, climate 470 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 6: alarmism tends to treat discent as heresy and skeptics as 471 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 6: morally corrupt. The result is a belief system that mimics 472 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: the structure of religion, but replaces its spiritual core with politics, fear, 473 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: and control. In many ways, the climate discourse resembles the 474 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 6: spiritual of gnosticism more than Christianity. As my colleague and 475 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 6: co author Alex S. Guttentag has pointed out, narcissism emerged 476 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: in the first and second centuries eighty, teaching that the 477 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 6: material universe was a corrupt prison created by a false God, 478 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 6: often equated with the God of the Old Testament. Which 479 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 6: they refer to as the demiurge. That's in contrast to 480 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 6: orthodox Christianity, which viewed creation as good in sin as 481 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 6: a moral failure. Gnostics believed that human beings contained a 482 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: divine spark trapped in flesh, and that salvation came not 483 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 6: through faith or obedience to God, but rather through hidden 484 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 6: knowledge gnosis of their true spiritual origin. Alike like the 485 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 6: ancient Gnostics, climate alarmists often claim access to secret knowledge 486 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 6: that sets them apart from the masses. Writers like David 487 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 6: Wallace Wells, a New York Times columnist, openly describe their 488 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: understanding of climate change as a kind of revelation. Its 489 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 6: information so dire, so morally charged, that it separates the 490 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: enlightened from the ignorant and corrupt. In his twenty nineteen 491 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 6: book The Uninhabitable Earth, Wallace Wells wrote that one of 492 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 6: the most haunting aspects of learning about climate change is 493 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 6: carrying the knowledge that others don't share and that feels 494 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 6: impossible to convey. This mirror is the Gnostic belief that 495 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 6: salvation comes not through faith or works, but through the 496 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 6: possession of hidden truths. In the modern climate version, those 497 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 6: truths are wrapped in technical jargon, worst case scenarios, and 498 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 6: apocalyptic timelines. Those who accept them are the elect those 499 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 6: who question them are heretics or deniers, And like gnoscissism, 500 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 6: this framework often rejects the material world not as something 501 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 6: to steward and improve, but as something irreparably damaged, a 502 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 6: fallen system from which only a purified elite can escape. 503 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 6: This gnostic discourse flows from and reinforces a kind of 504 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 6: narcissism and arrogance. Those who embrace it often see themselves 505 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 6: as morally and intellectually superior, set apart from the ignorant 506 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 6: masses who continue to drive and fly, eat meat, or 507 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 6: doubt the most extreme projections. They view their anxiety not 508 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 6: as a personal emotional dysregulation, but as evidence of their enlightenment, 509 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 6: their capacity to feel what others are too blind or 510 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 6: insensitive or selfish to comprehend. Now. The irony is that 511 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 6: their alarmism often showcases their ignorance, particularly when it comes 512 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 6: to the long practical history of water management and flood control. 513 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 6: While they warn that rising seas and heavier rains make 514 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 6: catastrophe inevitable, they overlook the fact that humans have successfully 515 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 6: confronted those challenges for millennia or ancient civilizations in Mesopotamia 516 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 6: at the end is Valley, China Rome constructed canals, levies, dikes, 517 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 6: and aqueducts to harness rivers and safeguard city. In the 518 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 6: modern era, countries such as the United States, the Netherlands, 519 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 6: Bangladesh have significantly reduced flood related deaths for the implementation 520 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 6: of early warning systems, basic infrastructure, and coordinated evacuation plans.